Can he breathe? III

Update: Even worse images have come to light.

Original post:

Of course by now we’ve all seen this footage.

Well the story gets worse:

The father of a mentally ill man who was stomped on the head by police while being arrested at Epping says his son is now in a coma as a result of the incident.

Then … I wonder why the Police arrested these two?

Update from Rebekah:

I’m the girl in the blue top!
I was at the protest on Sunday. I was a little late because I was trying to meet up with my friend beforehand and we were having some trouble finding each other. Then we were having trouble finding the protest as they were walking around the streets by then. We finally caught up with them on Elizabeth street and joined in.
Everything was great for awhile. I heard someone say that there was another group walking on William street and we were going to meet up with them. The next thing I knew everyone was running for their lives. I didn’t turn around, but I assumed the police were chasing us.
Everyone headed back towards the market, there was a sea of police. The mounted police tried to block our path. My friend charged through them with his bike and I slipped past through the other side. He told me later that the horse very narrowly missed me and squashed a girl behind me.
Now separated from my friend, I ran a little way until I got to a corner and casually walked around it with some others. The black uniforms stopped us. They sent us back and rounded us up into a group of about 20, forming a wall around us. They made us wait there for a long time in the boiling sun and then told us we were all under arrest.
They eventually began to take us away one by one, 5 coming for us at a time. Those who had signs, had them ripped from their hand and thrown forcefully to the ground with utter disdain.
I went peacefully when they came for me, they handed me over to two Victoria policemen who were actually quite pleasant to me. I gave them my licence and they gave me a fine and told me to go home, which I would have by then in any case.
Everyone at the protest was lovely and peaceful, I had the best time.
Experiencing such a force against nice, normal, everyday Australians was terrifying and it should terrify everyone. I got off fine and unscathed this time, but this is just the beginning. I can see things getting a darn side worse very quickly.
Fasten your seatbelts, we’re in for a bumpy ride!

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218 Responses to Can he breathe? III

  1. Hay Stockard

    VicPol. Totally out of control. UnAustralian swill. An unofficial arm of the CCP.

  2. John64

    Vicpol has crossed the line – rather than protection the citizens, it is now being deployed against them.

  3. Megan

    No police force in Victoria any longer, just a ghastly, politicised goon squad.

  4. Karabar

    This behaviour was typoical in Stalin’s USSR, then copied he STASI in East Germany.
    Solzhenitzen wrote about it while in the Gulag.
    When was it imported to Victoria?
    Are tehy operating on the instruction of Captain Cornflakes?

  5. candy

    I don’t see kicking. But police deal with violent druggies all the time. Which is not to say this man is a druggie gone crazy, but how are the police to know?

    I also think a coma from that seems extraordinarily unlikely.

  6. duncanm

    candy
    #3584537, posted on September 14, 2020 at 1:15 pm
    I don’t see kicking.

    0:15

  7. stevem

    The way they relish their new found power is terrifying – they just get more brazen by the day. Their stormtrooper armour, masks and massed presence gives them the anonymity that emboldens them.
    These are the sort of people that have been the brutal enforcers for every totalitarian regime in history and are now the personal army of Dan Andrews.

  8. candy

    I see that duncanm but I would ask what led up to that. I don’t like to think Australian police are at that level which is a bit like America or America used to be. They deal with mad druggies and people on violent binges, in any State not just Victoria.

  9. Roger W

    Candy, worse than a mad druggie, I suspect he wasn’t wearing a mask, the evil granny killer. Clearly, in your world, he was worth hanging, drawing and quartering. Of course, in any civilized society, your standards might seem a tad extreme?

  10. Frosty

    He’s not black, so presumably he doesn’t matter.

  11. sfw

    Candy, that head kick was completely illegal and uncalled for. Vicpol is out of control the new Chief is MIA and leaving Fat Boy Cornelius to make the running. They have become an out of control goon squad for the premier. There must be many members appalled by the current situation but if they put their head up they’ll be shuffled off to somewhere unpleasant to work and jeopardise their super payout. Money and power win.

  12. Gertrude

    Dan Andrews, your government is a disgrace.

  13. Alain

    Te Older i get the more i appreciate the genius of the US constitution, particularly
    The right to freedom of Speech
    The right to Bare arms

  14. Fred

    Why does there need to be a Professional Standards inquiry. The footage shows him kicking a man in the head. He should be charged with assault.

  15. Sinclair Davidson

    candy – the man was laying on the ground face down when he got stomped on the head. I cannot imagine any scenario prior to that that justifies the Police in the that instance.

  16. feelthebern

    & if it wasn’t for a citizen driving past, recording it, we would never have known about it.

  17. sfw

    Alain, I have the right to bare arms, in fact my arms are bare at this very moment.

  18. stevem

    I cannot imagine any scenario prior to that that justifies the Police in the that instance.

    Might is right?

  19. Enoch Root

    If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever.

    — George Orwell

  20. feelthebern

    Can’t see it on the ABC website yet.
    The Cat beats the billion dollar baby again!

  21. Derp

    How many cops there witnessing and no-one said or did a thing at the time or afterwards.
    No bodycam?
    It took a bystander video to prompt any action at all.

    How many others go unrecorded?
    And they wonder where their reputation went.

  22. feelthebern

    VicPol has lost their social licence to operate.

  23. Rabbi Putin

    It all started with over-policing of the little things: where you could smoke, how should fare evasion be treated, drinking taxes, revenue cameras, licenses for owning pets. No one took it seriously, and now the nanny state has grown into an arrogant Orwellian Communist behemoth

  24. Derp

    I don’t see kicking.

    He was head stomped, forcefully so and close enough to the ground it was verging on a curb stomp.
    Hard and directly onto the back of his exposed neck.

    There’s a reason that sort of action can lead to instant red card and expulsion in rugby because it can lead to permanent neck damage or worse.

  25. Makka

    & if it wasn’t for a citizen driving past, recording it, we would never have known about it.

    Yes. It would be all hidden away and denied. This is appalling.

    Scummo should call a RC into VikPol. Include Pell, Gobbo and the numerous acts of thuggery, brutality, intimidation and illegal force against unarmed defenseless citizens. Then lock these pigs up for decades.

  26. candy

    the man was laying on the ground face down when he got stomped on the head. I cannot imagine any scenario prior to that that justifies the Police in the that instance.

    Prof D, I think it fair though that we know the whole story and what precipitated it, which is not to say the stomping is correct police procedure by any means.
    But it is hard to see a docile non dangerous person being in that situation and a policeman decides to stomp, knowing he is on camera somewhere and his job and reputation is lost.

  27. dopey

    Just wait for the Climate Crisis Strike Force.

  28. feelthebern

    But it is hard to see a docile non dangerous person being in that situation and a policeman decides to stomp, knowing he is on camera somewhere and his job and reputation is lost.

    Where have you been for the last 6 months?
    It is on VicPol to demonstrate they acted appropriately.
    Not for the public to prove that VicPol did not.

  29. littledozer

    Prof D, I think it fair though that we know the whole story and what precipitated it, which is not to say the stomping is correct police procedure by any means.

    You either have standards or you don’t, you don’t get to justify. the man has no weapons and has thrown no punches. the escalation is breath taking but sure you go look for justification.

    The head should be sacrosanct in arresting people especially when police well outnumbered the man being arrested. Man’s in a coma ffs.

  30. min

    Apparently he was rundown first by police car and was crawling away and according to his father suffers from bipolar . The video is on 7 news showing him being run down.

  31. Derp

    & if it wasn’t for a citizen driving past, recording it, we would never have known about it.

    Bingo.
    And luckily for Citizen Driver, it was their passenger using a phone to record it.
    Otherwise the cops would be more concerned about fining them for phone use than with an actual, you know, assault in progress.

  32. Sinclair Davidson

    Watch the update – he is run down by the police then kicked in the head.

  33. feelthebern

    knowing he is on camera somewhere and his job and reputation is lost.

    Considering how often VicPol cameras haven’t been recording over the past couple of months, your premise is wrong.

  34. Terry

    @Alain
    ‘The right to Bare arms’ [for self-defence]…is a distinctly Australian thing. #nogunsforyou

    But I do agree, ‘the US constitution’ is ‘genius’, particularly their 1st and 2nd Amendments.

    We need a (very) similar Constitution. One that protects the people, in principle and in practice, from the unrestrained powers of government; from authoritarianism in all its forms and guises.

    The individual (freedom of thought, speech, movement, and association), private property, and equality before the law are must-haves. They are simply not negotiable, ever, full-stop.

    Until the Australian people come to understand this, absorb this, and adopt this as a core political ideology (where everything else becomes subservient), we are destined to play this eternal ping-pong game between Authoritarian Liberal and Totalitarian Labor; our liberty constantly eroded with each new term of office.

  35. feelthebern

    The standard Cornelius walks past – on his way to the buffet – is the standard Cornelius accepts.

  36. feelthebern

    The advice for all Victorians is that if you see a cop car or any member of VicPol, get your phone out & start recording.
    Livestream if you can.
    You might be saving a life.

  37. Makka

    candy, lay off the sherry.

  38. feelthebern

    The man, 32, was unarmed and was earlier at Northern Hospital for mental health help but police say he was aggressive and assaulted an officer.

    Did he assault the office before VicPol committed an act of vehicular assault on him?
    Or after?

  39. Old School Conservative

    The only thing to make any sense in that horrific scene was the guy in the camera car repeating “Are you fucking kidding me!”

  40. feelthebern

    VicPol said the chap assaulted him.
    Release the body cam footage or it didn’t happen.
    Then release all the body cam footage of all those brave VicPol officers who joined in the kicking & head stomping of some poor bloke.

  41. woolfe

    I see the Victoria Police moto is “Uphold the Right”. I think they got confused between right and left.

  42. feelthebern

    Has there been anything remotely similar from any other police force in the country?

  43. The BigBlueCat

    candy
    #3584537, posted on September 14, 2020 at 1:15 pm
    I don’t see kicking. But police deal with violent druggies all the time. Which is not to say this man is a druggie gone crazy, but how are the police to know?

    I also think a coma from that seems extraordinarily unlikely.

    The head stomp is very evident. While I understand that druggies on meth (in particular) take a lot of restraining, and on occasion, the police have needed to apply a lot of force restraining someone so influenced, what we see on the video is someone who was already restrained, with perhaps 6 police officers around him. All of them were armed. He was hardly a threat to himself or the police in attendance.

    The issue here is a methodology issue, and the simple urge to apply punitive as well as a restraining force. We don’t know what led up to this – a psychotic episode maybe? Fear of the police (understandable at this time)? Whatever it is, we need alternative methods for police restraint – methods that don’t involve bashing someone senseless. It is quite easy for something like this to end up in a coma or other permanent injury.

  44. rickw

    I don’t see kicking. But police deal with violent druggies all the time. Which is not to say this man is a druggie gone crazy, but how are the police to know?

    I also think a coma from that seems extraordinarily unlikely.

    Assess the individual and then act accordingly. Difficult when step 1 is to run into him with a motor vehicle. Even the most calm individual is going to be kinda pissed after that.

    Apply a boot to back of head / base of skull is pretty dangerous, but I’m willing to stomp on you the same way so we can confirm either way.

  45. What in God’s name is with that body armour? Are we in the middle east?? This is now a paramilitary force deployed against us.

    I have a practical suggestion : All police as a condition of employment should have to wear body cams withe the footage livestreamed 24/7. Sure sure, there are times when that wouldn’t be appropriate etc, but there has to be a way to rest the relationship between the police and the people. If they wont behave reasonably, then they must be forced to do so. The police commissioner may saying they’re behaving within the law – well then the laws need to be changed. There is nothing reasonable whatsoever about this spate of Victorian incidents in recent weeks.

  46. Makka

    The disturbing thing about this footage is that not one single plod castigated or showed anything but being fully supportive of the uniformed thug as he stomped on the head of the dude while he is on the ground. Not a one. They are all behind stomper 100%.

    This is violent gang behavior, thuggery, approved by VicPol and Andrews. A loathsome pack of mongrel dogs- all of them.

  47. Cassie of Sydney

    So will there be outrage for this act of police brutality? No and you know why? Because the victim here isn’t black or indigenous. I watched the George Flloyd video and was sickened. I watched the above video and was equally sickened.

  48. theleftfootkick

    Nothing to see here, just an escapee from the hospital causality ward, move move on or else!!

  49. Terry

    ‘The time for civility has ceased.’
    …agreed, but not…
    ‘Fuck the police’ or defund the police, or any other variation.

    We need the police more than ever. The question is, WHERE THE FUCK ARE THEY?

    They have disappeared and been replaced by the thugs of Dan’s goon squad.

    The goon squad needs to go (en masse), and some real police officers recruited to replace them.

  50. rickw

    But I do agree, ‘the US constitution’ is ‘genius’, particularly their 1st and 2nd Amendments.

    We need a (very) similar Constitution. One that protects the people, in principle and in practice, from the unrestrained powers of government; from authoritarianism in all its forms and guises.

    If you don’t have the ability to exercise real force, you don’t actually have anything, beyond what others may or may not grant you.

    We need to push through this and get A2A out of it, that must be our single minded objective.

    Public Safety? The greatest threat to The People is government.

  51. Genghis

    For God’s sake it is obvious. To get their phone numbers.

  52. Lee

    I’m not sure what distresses me more; seeing that footage or reading Candy’s response to it.

  53. Gerry

    Sinclair’s question, understandably, got lost under more important issues:
    Q. – Then … I wonder why the Police arrested these two?
    A. – Clearly … copping a feel!

  54. Terry

    ‘Public Safety? The greatest threat to The People is government.’
    100%. Unfortunately, it is not a view that seems to be shared by the coddled masses, and certainly not by those with their snouts in the trough.

  55. theleftfootkick

    Listening to an independent witness interviewed by Neil Mitchell on 3aw this morning, who stated that he was 100% keen to speak to police about what he saw, telling Mitchell he is thoroughly disgusted by actions of VicPol as events unfolded in front of him with is wife videoing it. Mitchell questioned him as to anything at all that would give the police a reason to act the way they did? This is one witness for the defense, and it is not the coppers!

  56. Snoopy

    Your lying eyes:

    #BREAKING New video shows police drive into a man in Epping

    What really happened:

    “Upon arrival the male allegedly became aggressive and damaged a police vehicle whilst attempting to avoid arrest,” the spokeswoman said.

  57. Econocrat

    I rang Epping Police Station last night to report this violent crime, but they said they cannot investigate their own!

  58. Struth

    All Melbournians should be in their cars, not in their homes, and driving around all streets.
    United in doing this, you will be free.
    There just isn’t enough of them to patrol every street.

    Trying to do anything on foot is idiotic.

    Risk a fine or tell me how I can organise it from Qld.
    What are the main go to sites for resistance in Victoria?

  59. John64

    Police were called to Cooper Street in Epping in Melbourne’s north about 4.10pm on Sunday to reports of a man behaving erratically, according to a police spokeswoman.

    “Upon arrival the male allegedly became aggressive and damaged a police vehicle whilst attempting to avoid arrest,” she said.

    The police spokeswoman described the incident as “highly dynamic” and said that a police officer was assaulted and capsicum spray used on the man before he was arrested and taken to hospital for assessment.

    Being rammed by a vehicle doing approximately 40 km/h is quite likely to damage the vehicle.

  60. stevem

    damaged a police vehicle

    I believe he also damaged a VicPol jackboot by striking it violently with the back of his head.

  61. Infidel Tiger King

    We need more chicken vans.

  62. Gab

    Police drive into the man. knocking him over.

    James Gargasoulas, come on down.

  63. duncanm

    stevem
    #3584670, posted on September 14, 2020 at 2:46 pm
    damaged a police vehicle

    I believe he also damaged a VicPol jackboot by striking it violently with the back of his head.

    was that not the assault on the VicPol officer?

    Judge: And how did the man assult you, officer?
    Officer: He head-butted me

  64. Struth

    So whatever he has done, the law is they can do to him???????

  65. flyingduk

    So this is now a daily occurrence in Danistan. Soon, somethings going to give, the people are not going to put up with this for much longer.

  66. feelthebern

    James Gargasoulas

    If VicPol had acted with 1% of the aggression they’ve used over the past couple of weeks with him, how many people would be still alive today?

  67. theleftfootkick

    No he was not! he had been in the casualty section of the hospital since Sunday, they had no ward bed available for him, he saw friend and decided to leave the hospital, they called the cops apparently telling them he was a potential danger to himself, the full interview with this blokes father and another independent witness at 3AW with Neil Mitchell. The shit is going to hit the fan with this!

  68. feelthebern

    Dark humour, but duncan is right.
    Yes, he kept head butting my fist.
    & my jackbooted foot.
    & he ever had the gumption to ding my car when I ran into him.

  69. Cynic of Ayr

    Candy:
    But it is hard to see a docile non dangerous person being in that situation and a policeman decides to stomp, knowing he is on camera somewhere and his job and reputation is lost.
    Open your eyes, and think for a moment. This is the problem!
    The policeman decides to stomp, knowing full well, without doubt, that nothing will come of it. He will not be disciplined. He will not be charged. He will not lose his reputation – he has none – and he will not lose financially.
    None of this will happen, because he is fully protected by the Labor Government of Victoria.
    And that, Candy, is the two crimes. One, he will get away with it. Two, he knows he will get away with it.

  70. incoherent rambler

    The shit is going to hit the fan with this!

    Andrews will say he was just a selfish person putting others at risk.
    Nothing to see here. Move along now.

  71. John64

    Is Catherine Andrews Vicpol’s driving instructor?

  72. Makka

    Andrews will say he was just a selfish person putting others at risk.

    Andrews: No, I haven’t seen that footage.

  73. vlad

    Victoria Police official motto

    1853: Tenez le droit

    1986: Uphold the right

    2020: #IStampWithDan

  74. Mustapha Bunn

    Candy needs to start taking her Meds again.

  75. feelthebern

    Front page of the Oz has a pic of VicPol.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/

    Oh sorry.
    They are a couple of Putin goons.
    Hard to tell the difference these days.

  76. vlad

    If someone isn’t sacked for that, Fatso Cornelius has to resign.

  77. theleftfootkick

    A while back Dan the Premier Man, said about the BLM protest yes the illegal one, saying well it is for a good cause. Interesting those words, now because I’d bet next weekend there will be a very public demonstration against Victoria Police for a similar reason, stuff like defund VicPol will be seen. What will Dear Leader Dan have to about that? One hand he is prepared to back the BLM protesters, saying can’t do anything to stop it other than ask not to go, (although it is for a good cause), can’t wait to see how he plays the other hand?

  78. Rossini

    John64
    #3584696

    Probably!

  79. duncanm

    Makka
    Andrews: No, I haven’t seen that footage.

    Some journalist with a brain needs to front up to one of those pressers with the video in hand.

    “Oh, that’s ok, I’ve got it here”

  80. Bushkid

    Hmmm. Nothing stands out….

    Oh, wait…

    Maybe they should have wrestled the women to the ground so they could cop an “accidental” feel while they were at it. It wouldn’t surprise me. Nothing would surprise about vicpol conduct any more.

    Are they targeting specific demographics here? Attractive young women on one hand, and vulnerable people on the other? That’s the second man with mental health issues they’ve handled very badly. That we know of, at any rate. Goodness knows how many others have been brutalised.

  81. 132andBush

    Mustapha Bunn
    #3584699, posted on September 14, 2020 at 3:03 pm

    Candy needs to start taking her Meds again.

    Candy is a sick disgrace.

  82. Gab

    Andrews: No, I haven’t seen that footage.

    I think he rambled on lecturing us that if he hadn’t protested he wouldn’t have got into that situation. So it’s incredibly dangerous to be protesting now etc etc etc blah blah blah.

  83. Makka

    So it’s incredibly dangerous to be protesting now etc

    Well, yes it is. VikPlod are running down dissenters with their vehicles, kicking their heads in for good measure. Because they can.

  84. Mother Lode

    I will own to being quite surprised that these police feel they can be so brazen.

    In the normal course of events when something unpleasant comes to light, senior leaders make a few mealy mouthed pledges to ‘find the people responsible’ – which translates invariably to scapegoating juniors who have no friends or favours in high places. Anonymous people who can be offered up to the public as a propitiatory sacrifice.

    What we have seen over the past few days beggars belief, but these guys seem to have no concern whatsoever. I wonder why not?

  85. feelthebern

    Breaking news:
    Hugo Boss wins new uniform contract for VicPol.

  86. feelthebern

    If this is what VicPol are doing in daylight when there’s a lot of punters around, imagine what they’re doing a night, when there’s no one about.

  87. Struth

    If the Australian armed forces are helping this lot in any way shape or form, which of course they are, does that concern anyone?
    Remember dumb fucking Aussies actually calling for help from the Army?
    Actually asking the army to come in and free up the police to kick heads?

  88. theleftfootkick

    I saw the defendant was aiming a savage blow with his head to my head, I ducked and he connected with my right boot. Judge, ‘thank you officer’ Police officer, ‘that’s ok Judge, all the defensive training I received at the academy came instinctively into play’.

  89. Gab

    Here’s Andrews’ response on both the female being ripped from her car and the man run over by the cops. The reporter asks the question at 1hr 48 seconds. Andrews gives a lecture for a couple of minutes about protesting being bad and dangerous etc, then the reporter specifically asks again about the man and Andrews then does his usual handwave.

  90. Adelagado

    No doubt this is another video Dan won’t be seeing.

  91. Bronson

    Where’s Captain Cornflake with his abuse now? Probably waiting for Dear Leader to view the footage.

  92. Watch Your Back

    Peel’s nine principles of policing were as follows:

    To prevent crime and disorder, as an alternative to their repression by military force and severity of legal punishment.
    To recognise always that the power of the police to fulfill their functions and duties is dependent on public approval of their existence, actions and behaviour, and on their ability to secure and maintain public respect.
    To recognise always that to secure and maintain the respect and approval of the public means also the securing of the willing co-operation of the public in the task of securing observance of laws.
    To recognise always that the extent to which the co-operation of the public can be secured diminishes proportionately the necessity of the use of physical force and compulsion for achieving police objectives.
    To seek and preserve public favour, not by pandering to public opinion, but by constantly demonstrating absolutely impartial service to law, in complete independence of policy, and without regard to the justice or injustice of the substance of individual laws, by ready offering of individual service and friendship to all members of the public without regard to their wealth or social standing, by ready exercise of courtesy and friendly good humour, and by ready offering of individual sacrifice in protecting and preserving life.
    To use physical force only when the exercise of persuasion, advice and warning is found to be insufficient to obtain public co-operation to an extent necessary to secure observance of law or to restore order, and to use only the minimum degree of physical force which is necessary on any particular occasion for achieving a police objective.
    To maintain at all times a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and that the public are the police, the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.
    To recognise always the need for strict adherence to police-executive functions, and to refrain from even seeming to usurp the of the judiciary of avenging individuals or the State, and of authoritatively judging guilt and punishing the guilty.
    To recognise always that the test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, and not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with them.

    This is also known as ‘policing by consent’. It is an English conception of course. We tried to introduce it to the other English speaking democracies.

  93. Some History

    Pornelius, Chief of the Food Disposal Squad.

    Yes, I have viewed the video. The optics of someone getting their head stomped by VicPol isn’t going to be good. But I’m quite happy that my members conducted themselves with exemplary integrity… astonishing professionalism… in completing this challenging arrest. Now, where’s the buffet?

  94. feelthebern

    The police only exist to enforce property rights.
    Anything else they do is just gravy (lol, Buffet Cornelius just got an erection).

    What we are seeing in Victoria is a pack of goons, beating up citizens.
    There is no difference between what VicPol are doing now & what the brown shirts did during the Weimar republic.

  95. Radman

    If you need reminding of the potential consequences of a blow to the back of the head, I suggest viewing the Phil Hughes video footage.

  96. Tom

    It has taken 75 years since the end of World War Two for Victoria’s enlightened “progressives” to impose a fascist police state on the formerly free people of Victoria.

    In this corner of Australia, the fascists won the war after all.

    Australia’s greatest generation is turning in its grave.

  97. gary

    What happens if Dan decides the Emergency is so great that he must cancel all future elections? He seems to have the police force who would back him no matter what. What could anyone do?

    Germany in the 1930’s doesn’t seem too far away from Victoria in the 2020’s.

    Easy to see now how Germany slipped into its insanity of the 1930’s. Australia, particularly Victoria seems to be acting irrationally, and there appears no democratic mechanism except far off elections to remedy the situation.

    Hopefully if the QLD premier loses the October election that will cool Andrews down, although it might make him and his goons more violent.

  98. Makka

    There is no difference between what VicPol are doing now & what the brown shirts did during the Weimar republic.

    The Nartzi Brownshirts, vermin and animals that they were, at least had the guts to go about their unholy business with a courage that took on all comers. VikPol on the other hand are a gang of low dog cowards, who can only man up against pregnant women in jammies, young women out alone or driving their car to work, grannies sitting on park benches and defenseless mentally ill patients. When confronted with a few African youth they cower in their stations. Afraid of getting the call.

    I say this not to defend the evil Brownshirts in any way, but to emphasize just how fkg low VikPol are and anyone who supports this foul organisation is. VikPol are a gang of lowly currs.

  99. Boambee John

    Candy

    Prof D, I think it fair though that we know the whole story and what precipitated it, which is not to say the stomping is correct police procedure by any means.

    Bear in mind that he had just been hit by the po lice car, and thrown two or three metres along the road, then the head stomp? Get real.

  100. Some History

    Summary of the weekend’s “optics”. Plenty of photos.

    From Trump fans to hipsters, young women in activewear and Muslims in hijabs: How the anti-lockdown protesters are far from the ‘bat-sh*t crazy’ stereotype the cops would have Australia believe – and why the anger is only going to grow

    Up to 250 people went to the rally against lockdown held at Melbourne’s Queen Victoria Market on Sunday
    • Mounted police and heavily armed riot police quickly converged on the area and made dozens of arrests
    • Police arrested 74 people and handed out 176 fines during the lockdown rally after arresting 14 a day earlier
    • Ugly scenes erupted as police swiftly worked to arrest the protesters, which included mostly young people
    • Police had earlier goaded protesters during an inflammatory press conference held by top cop Luke Cornelius
    • Assistant commissioner took another swipe at protesters, declaring he was fed up with their ‘selfish antics’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8729387/Anti-lockdown-protests-brought-coalition-freedom-advocates-Melbourne.html

  101. Mark A

    It was mentioned a few times, Candy is the other side of Grigory.🤢

  102. Some History

    Summary of the weekend’s “optics”. Plenty of photos.

    From Trump fans to hipsters, young women in activewear and Mu slims in hijabs: How the anti-lockdown protesters are far from the ‘bat-sh*t crazy’ stereotype the cops would have Australia believe – and why the anger is only going to grow

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8729387/Anti-lockdown-protests-brought-coalition-freedom-advocates-Melbourne.html

  103. WolfmanOz

    The disproportionate response to VicPol to the Wallan beauty therapist arrest and many other incidents that are now being captured by the public is deeply disturbing.

    The latest incident with the poor man at Epping where it is “alleged” his head was stomped on by a VicPol officer is today’s outrage that is only going to add fuel to a powder keg that is now brewing in Melbourne.

    All my life I have been a supporter of the police, as, I and many others, recognise they perform an extremely difficult job under very stressful conditions, but what we are witnessing now in Victoria is very insidious.

  104. feelthebern

    I think I posted a month or so ago that Dan Andrews could kick someone in the balls on Collins Street & nothing would happen.
    It’s sickening that I was correct.

  105. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Bear in mind that he had just been hit by the po lice car, and thrown two or three metres along the road, then the head stomp? Get real.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8729505/Mentally-unwell-man-Epping-placed-coma-following-brutal-arrest.html

    Like this?

  106. feelthebern

    So it wasn’t Dan Andrews kicking an indigenous chap in the balls.
    It was VicPol stomping on a mental patients head after they ran him down in a car.

    Let’s see what squirrels Dan’s twitter army releases to take the attention away from this.

  107. Mark A

    feelthebern
    #3584792, posted on September 14, 2020 at 4:26 pm

    I think I posted a month or so ago that Dan Andrews could kick someone in the balls on Collins Street & nothing would happen.
    It’s sickening that I was correct.

    I was hoping that after the heavy handed arrest of the pregnant woman there would be an almighty public outcry and plenty of indignant newspaper articles.

    What did we have instead?
    Crickets…
    A few twitter and blog posts but that’s about it, not even an apology from the police.

  108. Gerry

    These police are highly trained in subduing and maintaining control of a person. They can do it with restraint as trained or by brute force. However, clearly they aren’t trained in dealing with their emotions in difficult circumstances and lose their cool must too easily and use brute force, like bullies. I can’t imagine them policing in the US. They are way too unprofessional.

  109. feelthebern

    However, clearly they aren’t trained in dealing with their emotions in difficult circumstances and lose their cool must too easily and use brute force, like bullies.

    Difficult situations that they put themselves in.
    There was no reason to hit the chap with the car.
    There was no reason to even pursue him, let alone assault him when he was on the ground.
    Zero sympathy for VicPol.
    They can simply go out, not engage with anyone & then go home.
    Job done.
    The fact they are stopping people & snatching phones & assaulting people?
    Fuck ’em.

  110. BrettW

    From Avi’s Twitter :

    I’m getting word that Sam Newman is organising a BLM protest this Sunday to give Victoria Police a break.

    The riot squad can go back to doing nothing.

  111. duncanm

    Some History
    #3584785, posted on September 14, 2020 at 4:15 pm
    Summary of the weekend’s “optics”. Plenty of photos.

    From Trump fans to hipsters, young women in activewear and Mu slims in hijabs: How the anti-lockdown protesters are far from the ‘bat-sh*t crazy’ stereotype the cops would have Australia believe – and why the anger is only going to grow

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8729387/Anti-lockdown-protests-brought-coalition-freedom-advocates-Melbourne.html

    that’s the only article I’ve read that actually gets to the point. The protesters were a very wide section of the community. Very hard to dismiss them all as nutters.

  112. Some History

    Where is the Vic Police Minister, Lisa Neville?

  113. H B Bear

    Oh to be a chicken truck driver on the Eastern Freeway.

    Has Chairman Dan rolled out the Old Lesbian yet?

  114. Neon

    @ Candy

    “Prof D, I think it fair though that we know the whole story and what precipitated it, which is not to say the stomping is correct police procedure by any means.
    But it is hard to see a docile non dangerous person being in that situation and a policeman decides to stomp, knowing he is on camera somewhere and his job and reputation is lost.”

    How can you even attempt to defend that. I would like to see if your reaction is the same zen reaction if it was someone you cared about, not that it should matter. It was just a cowardly, spiteful act of a person who does not have the temperament to any longer be in a position of authority

  115. BrettW

    Regarding the head kick it reminds me of a Qld case from nearly 20 years ago.

    Police car chase down the highway towards Gold Coast. Bad guy exits the car and runs away on foot chased by cops. TV chopper filming from above captures cop kicking bad guy in the head after he was already on the ground and not resisting. Sunday Mail front page big photo of the kick.

    Police PR response is that no complaint had been made (ie. by the guy kicked). So having live chopper footage not enough to trigger an investiagtion.

    Never did find out if anything happened to the kicker.

  116. Up The Workers!

    Could that victim be named “George Floyd”, by any chance?

    Only a couple of weeks ago, it took 5 courageous Deadly Dan’s Gestapo to violently “George Floyd” a defenceless housewife in front of her daughter on the public footpath on the corner of Heaths Road and Derrimut Road, Hoppers Crossing for committing the crime of being outside her humble taxpayers’ hovel without the written permission of “Dear Leader” the Chi-Com “wukkas” friend.

    The victims should thank their lucky stars that the Labor Party’s monocular Assistant Commissioner for Corpulence, Luke Creosote, wasn’t amongst the four or more fully-armed “Batshit Crazy” Sumo-type heavyweight Revenue-Gougers on the backs of those poor flattened taxpayers and kneeling on their necks just like cops do in Leftard Dementiacrat-Ruined States like Minneapolis, Minnesota, U.S.A.

    Good to see a consistent Patton emerging under the Crims’ Party version of “Policing” in Mogadishu-By-The Yarra.

    Cardinal George Pell was dealt with by the anti-Christian “Get Pell Squad” by the world-renowned Scotland Yard “Carl Beech” Forensic Technique which is used to stitch up perfectly innocent people on bogus evidence and a dead person’s say-so, for alleged “crimes” which never happened, whilst our Labor Gestapo are now routinely apeing that well-known U.S. restraint technique known as “George Floyding” the taxpayers.

    After buying his crooked Election-Cheating and taxpayer-bashing pals “Red Shirts”, then “White Shirts” and most recently “Black Shirts”, lets hope that before too much longer, they will all be wearing “Orange Shirts” with hand-cuffs and ankle-chains and being VERY careful not to drop the ‘ in the communal showers Soap-On-A-Rope lest ‘Bubba’ or ‘Bruiser” or ‘Basher’ treat them like they do the taxpayers whose pockets they pick for their salaries.

    A.L.P. – Always Looting the Poor!

  117. John64

    Assistant Commissioner for Corpulence, Luke Creosote

    You owe me a new keyboard UTW!

  118. Lurks

    Disgusting….. is this really Australia. Heaven forbid. The words of Churchill ring true… never before has so much disaster been wrecked on so many by so few. Phuck em. And my personal gripe…. how the phuck are these twats allowed to continue!

  119. Some History

    Where is the Vic Police Minister, Lisa Neville?

    Probably sourcing more “RoboCop” gear.

  120. notafan

    Candy is grigs.

    Mask slipped this morning.

  121. Philby

    If this is what VicPol are doing in daylight when there’s a lot of punters around, imagine what they’re doing a night, when there’s no one about.
    .
    Remember the bookshop episode, the courts sorted that bullshit and it cost the taxpayer heaps as will the running down of an innocent man with a police car.
    The victim apparently was voluntarily seeking medical help for his condition and after waiting in emergency for 1.5 days decided to call it quits and go home.His father said the victim rang his apprentice and asked him to pick him up . The hospital rang the police frightened he would self harm , he has no record of harm to himself or others according to his father. I don’t know about self harm but to be hit with a police vehicle as shown would cause anyone harm. The charges appear to be outrageous and I would like to sit on a jury when the Judge tears them to bits.Big Big dollars from taxpayers and it has not stopped yet.

  122. H B Bear

    Victoriastani taxpayers better get the cheque book out when a decent QC gets hold of this one. That is after $1m exgratia hush money to bury the Lawyer X scandal. What a sh1t show.

  123. notafan

    The hijabi in that daily mail photo looks like a very young teenager

  124. notafan

    There were newspaper articles, even a complaint by Law Society.

  125. H B Bear

    As usual 6 VicPlod standing around.

    Has the Police union come out and said they are under-resourced yet?

  126. feelthebern

    As usual 6 VicPlod standing around.

    Did they think the chap on the ground was a doughnut or kebab?

  127. David Brewer

    The ABC is now carrying the police’s version:

    “Upon arrival the male allegedly became aggressive and damaged a police vehicle whilst attempting to avoid arrest,” the spokeswoman said.

    “During the highly dynamic incident a police officer was assaulted and OC spray was deployed before the 32-year-old man, of no fixed address, was arrested and subsequently taken to hospital for assessment.””

    Note all the calculated mendacity. “damaged a police vehicle” – presumably that means he dented the bonnet when they ran him down. “whilst attempting to avoid arrest” – i.e. he tried unsuccessfully to avoid being rammed by the car. “highly dynamic incident” – that will be when they bashed him up and kicked him in the head. “taken to hospital for assessment” – in a coma.

    Quis custudiet ipsos custodes?

  128. Snoopy

    Zachary Rolfe must be ‘enjoying’ VikPol’s exploits.

  129. Struth

    How has this been allowed to happen?
    Why isn’t anyone stopping this?
    Where is Sco Mo?
    Where is Wally?

    These and many more questions are easily answered.
    They have the guns so shut up.

  130. feelthebern

    “Upon arrival the male allegedly became aggressive and damaged a police vehicle whilst attempting to avoid arrest,” the spokeswoman said.

    Beyond parody.

  131. feelthebern

    Zachary Rolfe

    Shoots suspect who is on ground, armed with scissors, wrestling with other cop.
    Murder charge.

    Multiple stomps on suspect’s head (suspected of what) while suspect is already restrained by 6 coppers.
    Police medal.

  132. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “Upon arrival the male allegedly became aggressive and damaged a police vehicle whilst attempting to avoid arrest,” the spokeswoman said.

    Who thinks up this rubbish? Joseph Goebbels?

  133. feelthebern

    “Damaged police vehicle”

    “I had to eat”

  134. Roger

    Quis custudiet ipsos custodes?

    Over to you, Victoria’s Police Minister.

  135. Snoopy

    Police Minister Lisa Neville said body camera footage would be reviewed by Professional Standards before a decision was made on standing the officers down from duties.

    She said there were “difficult circumstances” and the man had committed “quite a violent offence” — a point disputed by (lawyer) Mr King.

    Some good may come of this. If Minister Lisa Neville is found to have ‘misspoke’ she’ll resign. Amiright?

  136. Snoopy

    Zachary Rolfe

    Shoots suspect who is on ground, armed with scissors, wrestling with other cop.
    Murder charge.

    With VikPol goons busily poisoning every potential juror in the nation.

  137. Bela Bartok

    Friend in Melbourne thinks Dan is doing a fine job, that the number of Wu-Flu cases in Vic are Skyrocketing, and thus necessitating a lockdown; nothing else to do but try and avoid the dreaded second-wave.
    Reckons #givedantheboot is missing his good work.
    And he’s not a complete mouth-breathing idiot… must be something in the water down there.
    Thinks the fuss about police ‘overkill’ is just twits complaining.
    That’s what we’re up against : normal people embracing the violence, the cruelty…

  138. Who else thought the LA Sheriff shooter looked like a chimp in ‘hood clothes?
    Monkey MKUltra assassin’s now???
    #2020

  139. Sinclair Davidson

    the man had committed “quite a violent offence”

    First he attacked that police car, then he headbutted the policeman’s boot.

  140. Sinclair Davidson

    tailgunner – please don’t post that here.

  141. Will this trigger a response from the black lives matter rabble?

  142. duncanm

    She said there were “difficult circumstances” and the man had committed “quite a violent offence”

    sorry wot ?

    “had committed” – ie: had been charged, trialled and found guilty,

    or more likely “was accused of committing” – ie: cops said / he said.

  143. feelthebern

    Good point duncan, have we gotten rid of the presumption of innocence?
    Alleged to have committed a violent office.
    VicPol has just defamed this punter.

  144. Squirrel

    Even when the suffocating restrictions are largely gone, the thugs who run the bit of land south of the Murray should never again, on ANZAC or any other day, presume or pretend to commemorate the sacrifices of those who have served and died to defend this country, its freedoms and values.

    The thugs are the real sickness afflicting us – a toxic malignancy.

  145. miltonf

    Looks as though the word went out from on high to hit ’em and hit ’em hard.

  146. miltonf

    which the coal face guys and gals seem very happy to action

  147. Nick

    I’m utterly disgusted. Thanks for posting this Sinc.

  148. Frank

    “Damaged police vehicle”

    The front door passenger side does look like it has a dent in it as it is driving up to him.

  149. miltonf

    ‘Candy’ is not plausible. Same as ‘Neil’. Parodies of conservative types.

  150. feelthebern

    VicPol Brownshirts.
    The rate they are escalating, they’ll be the SS by next weekend.

  151. mindfree

    Where is the Vic Police Minister, Lisa Neville?

    Probably planning the next BLM or Extinction Rebellion protest march in Melbourne CBD with her colleagues from the Socialist Alliance

  152. miltonf

    Soft tyranny to hard tyranny.

  153. The Quiet Farmer

    Do VicPol have to wear id numbers like QLD police? They seem absent in the chick flick. I heard VicPol was recruiting 250 man flying squad to police the lockdown, maybe a few trainings were skipped in the rush? A la hotel quarantine?
    If they do have ID maybe some sharp lawyer could get rich?

  154. Sinclair Davidson

    It’s the same Candy that we’ve always had.

  155. Fin.

    I’m receiving questions from overseas about what’s now going on in Australia. An ex-colleague (Medical School) in the US, now an ex-pat, is greatly concerned. This latest outrage will give him more to ponder about his former home.

    The oaf Andrews, the Vic. police minister and the Assistant Commissioner of Vic. police (he of the coarse and ratbag underclass threats) need standing aside pending further action. The thugs they have encouraged should already be in cells.

    They are trash and enemies of Australians. .

  156. miltonf

    he of the coarse and ratbag underclass threats

    one of the stand outs in vileness

  157. miltonf

    mr dog vomit and batshit

  158. Some History

    With the donuts sorted out, the presser could finally begin

    https://imgur.com/VIbJiPh

  159. miltonf

    Note all the calculated mendacity. “damaged a police vehicle” – presumably that means he dented the bonnet when they ran him down. “whilst attempting to avoid arrest” – i.e. he tried unsuccessfully to avoid being rammed by the car. “highly dynamic incident” – that will be when they bashed him up and kicked him in the head. “taken to hospital for assessment” – in a coma.

    Summary ‘justice’. Lotsa “highly dynamic incidents” lately.

  160. Roger

    She said there were “difficult circumstances” and the man had committed “quite a violent offence”

    Is she implying that justifies the police handing out some summary justice during the arrest?

  161. feelthebern

    Sinc, can you please make Some History’s meme the banner picture.

  162. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It is like watching a video from America’: Victorian man in coma after ‘barbaric’ arrest
    A screengrab of Channel 7 footage showing the brutal arrest.
    Source: Channel 7

    Remy Varga
    Reporter
    @RemyVarga
    33 minutes ago September 14, 2020

    A father-of-three has been placed in an induced coma after vision emerged of Victoria Police officers striking him with a car before they pinned him down and kicked his head.

    The arrest of Timothy Atkins, 32, on Sunday in the north Melbourne suburb of Epping has been referred to Victoria Police Professional Standards Command after vision of the violent incident emerged on social media.

    Mr Atkins father Glenn Atkins labelled the incident “police brutality” and said his son, who was being treated for bipolar disorder at Northern Hospital, has been placed in an induced coma.

    From the Oz. “Barbaric”… “brutal”…. All good for VicPol so far.

  163. Professor Fred Lenin

    This kind of police behaviour would not be allowed unless sanctioned by STKilda Rd HQ , right from the top ,no doubt with the connivance of the fascist government . They are now promoting police brutality , what is needed is civil actions put them before a proper court like any other criminal With a jury of opressed citizens . Name and Shame them publicly . Thry will be ostracised by normal taxpaying people .

  164. Megan

    The civil liberties people should be along with a statement any minute now.

  165. Howard Hill

    Struth
    #3584725, posted on September 14, 2020 at 3:16 pm

    Bloody hell Candy.

    Sounds like your typical Victorian.
    Mitchell listening, Hitchener watching, Grimshaw idolising, Hunchback voting idiot. And you wonder why Vics aren’t doing anything.

    Just about all the people in my area are just like this bint.
    They’re in plague proportions.

  166. miltonf

    And you wonder why Vics aren’t doing anything.

    They are doing something – what a stupid thing to say. I don’t think Candy is for real anyway.

  167. Robbo

    Oh yeah Dan’s gestapo thugs have got things under control just so long as you are not suffering from a mental health episode or you are a soft target like being a pregnant woman. If you are one of the aforementioned then watch out if you are confronted by one of Dan’s armed and riot suited goons.

  168. Whalehunt Fun

    I am LOVING this. All the smug woke filth that complained about being subjected to Tony Abbott the jackboot Nazi are now learning what real fascism is like. These utter filth compared themselves to the poor bastards that Hitler murdered. What a vile form of egotism to pretend they were suffering anything like the people in Europe. They disgust me. Utter scum.

  169. Howard Hill

    They are doing something

    Oh yeah, I forgot. They put a boot on their driveway.

    Forget about Vic, it’s gone. Build a wall and keep us out, we’re a menace and you’ll have no hope if we get into your state, we’ll bring the plague with us, you can bet on it!

  170. miltonf

    Sarcasm shows you don’t have an argument. You ignore people going out and making a stand over the last two weekends.

  171. Philby

    Please please Scott Morrison the good citizens of Australia being residents in Victoria are under unlawful attack by an armed bunch of thugs. Please send armed Australian troops to wipe out these armed and dangerous thugs that are a threat to Australians. The Liberals left us defenceless so do your duty and rid us of these lackeys of the Chinese communists.

  172. Don

    Are these stills from the latest Judge Dredd film?

  173. sfw

    With huge influx of diversity recruits to vicpol there has been a need for many more Sergeants, I hear that almost anyone who has the minimum requirements can put their hand up and get a gig. Seeing that it’s the sgts who essentially run the job day to day they get their guidance from the fishes head but they are the ones who put it into practice. Way too many ambitious low talent people in positions of authority. They don’t have the experience, intelligence or ethics to do the job, but will do what they think will please the bosses.

  174. Howard Hill

    Sarcasm shows you don’t have an argument.

    Hahaha and yet here we are all shocked because people are being dragged out of cars, getting their heads kicked in, businesses ruined, lives destroyed, self harm through the roof, same with suicides, grannies being bullied. All over a few runny noses
    And what did the protest achieve? What have protests ever achieved?

    Oh yeah, more lock downs, more storm troopers on the streets and dear leader dodging questions like a duck dodging lead at duck opening. Get a grip!

    The Liberals left us defenceless

    More insanity. Pleading with the head wanker that took your defences away for his own protection, LMAO!

  175. miltonf

    Like I say sfw- it seems like a ‘shock and awe’ strategy that has been ordered from on high.

  176. mh

    Not going to scroll up through all those posts, but did anyone else think the last two pics look like a set up?
    What would be the purpose?
    And why is the lady in blue on high beam?

  177. miltonf

    And what did the protest achieve? What have protests ever achieved?

    you said earlier

    And you wonder why Vics aren’t doing anything.

    so you contradicted yourself.

  178. miltonf

    You sound like Bundyrum.

  179. Howard Hill

    You sound like Bundyrum.

    You sound like a hunchback voter.
    Oh look, it’s 7.30. Must be time for you to go watch AKarrenAffair.

  180. Fair Shake

    Where were these VicPol heroes when that chap went for a fast cruise thru Bourke St Mall ?
    FFS this mob is off the leash against the community .

  181. Rockdoctor

    Assault occasioning bodily harm comes to mind here, if he has any incapacity should elevate to the high end of that. These guys are meant to used graduated use of force: presence, verbalisation empty hand control, show weapons & deadly force. From what I have seen so far they are breezing past the first 2 and going straight to empty hand control.

    It would not have hurt at that vehicle check point on the weekend to just wave over a superior and let them handle it. If the chick tried it on again the arrest her after giving her a chance to comply. Mate who is an ex soldier says that’s how he has handled similar situations but in other countries. As for the guy in an induced coma, screw the professional standards committee as they will close ranks. Claytons solution. Hopefully there is a QC or emenant legal type in touch with the family now, that head stomp was pure assault and higher end assault, it didn’t even fit into the use of force continuum as well as the use of the car.

    Tim Smith, time to man up as well as the rest of the Liberals. No more weasel words about context or full story, the extra ch 7 footage is even more damning. If the body cam footage was exculpatory to the cops reckon we would have seen it. What I saw there is something I never thought I’d see in Australia, it was the most unprofessional ill disciplined act by someone unfit to be in the uniform and now it is beaming around the world. What’s that saying about the standard you walk past? Wow I am actually angry.

  182. Damon

    Manhandling busty broads? What’s not to like?

  183. Candy:

    I also think a coma from that seems extraordinarily unlikely.

    Psychiatric patients in ICU are fairly routinely sedated or paralysed/intubated.
    RFDS in general will not fly out a psych patient unless paralysed/intubated.

  184. miltonf

    So Candy does medical diagnosis too.

  185. Fat Tony

    When do these fuckers get to use the 800/900 assault rifles Uncle Joe bought for them?

  186. candy

    Psychiatric patients in ICU are fairly routinely sedated or paralysed/intubated.

    Winston
    I was wondering if in this case it is a case of how hard the blow to the skull was and bleeding on his brain etc, so bad that he went into a coma and can’t be woken. A most serious condition, where life is on the edge?

  187. twostix

    When do these fuckers get to use the 800/900 assault rifles Uncle Joe bought for them?

    When Victorians realise they aren’t getting out of this without getting out on the streets themselves and forcing the government out.

  188. mh

    Some of those photos look like they have been staged to be part of a presentation to ChiCom officials in Beijing, showing them how their Belt and Road State is progressing.

  189. John

    Sick to the stomach, If this poor soul passes all police present along with the commissioner & asst commissioner should be charged with murder. Most of Victoria saw this coming and as we’ve seen prior most incidents look premeditated. Shame VicPol and the many officers for not resigning on mass. “Just doing our jobs as instructed” Bullshit cowardice.

  190. Perfidious Albino

    What’s with the bright blue “301” badges on the back of the body armour police – some kind of unit branding? Pretty inappropriate I would say. Licensed thugs.

  191. Candy:

    I was wondering if in this case it is a case of how hard the blow to the skull was and bleeding on his brain etc, so bad that he went into a coma and can’t be woken. A most serious condition, where life is on the edge?

    He should have been to CT/Xray fairly early in the piece. The fact that he is now intubated says (to me, at least – a doc may have different ideas.) he probably has a base of skull/unstable C1 fracture or a bleed somewhere. Look, it’s difficult to tell and my neuro experience is minimal.
    If he’s off to the ward in a couple of days time, then it’s just precautionary. But if he’s not – then something nasty has happened.
    A photo would be nice but I doubt if one will be available.

  192. Perfidious Albino:

    What’s with the bright blue “301” badges on the back of the body armour police – some kind of unit branding? Pretty inappropriate I would say. Licensed thugs.

    I was wondering about that, just who are these people anyway?

  193. Chris M

    Good use for recycled plastic apparently, all those dinky little GI Joe pads taped on their chubby fascist arms and legs.

  194. Robber Baron

    Why hasn’t the minister called in the police commissioner to explain this incident?

    Perhaps unleashing thuggery on the population was the brief.

    If there was any doubt that Andrews is a dangerous sociopath there is now no doubt whatsoever.

  195. Fin.

    candy
    #3584537, posted on September 14, 2020 at 1:15 pm
    “I don’t see kicking.” And,

    I don’t see the brave 6’4″ copper cuffing a 5’2″ pregnant mum in her house. He’s just tickling her.

    I find it “hard to see a docile non dangerous person being in that situation and a policeman decides to stomp, knowing he is on camera somewhere and his job and reputation is lost”. Can’t happen. Not ever going to lose his job. Ever. In fact, that “reputation” has just been enhanced..

    I just know Phatty ‘Flake only wanted to save bus fares for the poor wanting to meet up in the city last Saturday. And he couldn’t be accused of bias for he let the BLM pay full fare to get together weeks before. He’s on our side. Thanks, Phatty.

    Thanks, Candy.

  196. Some History

    The absurdity of the situation.

    VicPol was responsible for another recent brutalizing of a disabled man with mental issues.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A262DPeR34

    IIRC, his carer called police, concerned about his deteriorating mental health, asking for a “wellbeing check” by police. A WELLBEING CHECK. Turns out that the police were the greatest threat to the man’s wellbeing.

    In the weekend’s case, the man – bipolar – admitted himself to hospital. For more than a day, he couldn’t get a bed. Decided he was going home… called a friend to pick him up. Hospital staff call the police worried that the man might be “at risk”. There’s the mentally-distressed man waiting for his friend to pick him up and the police turn up. He, too, gets brutalized by the police. If professionals are worried about the wellbeing of a person in mental distress, the worst thing they can do is call the police who now have a history of being the greatest threat to such persons’ wellbeing.

    What a mess!

  197. VicPol was responsible for another recent brutalizing of a disabled man with mental issues.

    Jesus christ this is bad. Really, really bad.

    IIRC, his carer called police, concerned about his deteriorating mental health, asking for a “wellbeing check” by police. A WELLBEING CHECK. Turns out that the police were the greatest threat to the man’s wellbeing.

    We’re not just no longer a free country. We have dangerous totalitarian idiots in office.

  198. Stimpson J. Cat

    In the weekend’s case,
    the man – bipolar – admitted himself to hospital.

    For more than a day, he couldn’t get a bed.
    Decided he was going home… called a friend to pick him up.
    Hospital staff call the police worried that the man might be “at risk”.

    Many.
    Such.
    Cases.

    Imagine actually trusting “Sane People.”

  199. HT

    Perfidious Albino
    #3585296, posted on September 14, 2020 at 9:31 pm
    What’s with the bright blue “301” badges on the back of the body armour police – some kind of unit branding? Pretty inappropriate I would say. Licensed thugs.

    007 was taken, I guess.

  200. kae

    Candy

    He looked semi-conscious when he was stomped, but gee, he must have done SOMETHING.

    I don’t think he did anything to warrant that attack.

    I had forgotten our resident air-head.

  201. Jannie

    Scary thing is the Police are confident and loving it. They don’t even care about the cameras. Defund the Police?

    The difference in the perception and duties of Police in Victoria and Oregon is intriguing. Both Left wing states.

  202. The Sheriff

    O’Brien should call a press conference and announce that his policing policy for the next election is to sack every single officer who is ranked Commander or above. The next step should be to send an SOS to Sir Ken Jones to return from overseas to restore the force’s esteem and respect.

  203. Rebekah

    I’m the girl in the blue top!
    I was at the protest on Sunday. I was a little late because I was trying to meet up with my friend beforehand and we were having some trouble finding each other. Then we were having trouble finding the protest as they were walking around the streets by then. We finally caught up with them on Elizabeth street and joined in.
    Everything was great for awhile. I heard someone say that there was another group walking on William street and we were going to meet up with them. The next thing I knew everyone was running for their lives. I didn’t turn around, but I assumed the police were chasing us.
    Everyone headed back towards the market, there was a sea of police. The mounted police tried to block our path. My friend charged through them with his bike and I slipped past through the other side. He told me later that the horse very narrowly missed me and squashed a girl behind me.
    Now separated from my friend, I ran a little way until I got to a corner and casually walked around it with some others. The black uniforms stopped us. They sent us back and rounded us up into a group of about 20, forming a wall around us. They made us wait there for a long time in the boiling sun and then told us we were all under arrest.
    They eventually began to take us away one by one, 5 coming for us at a time. Those who had signs, had them ripped from their hand and thrown forcefully to the ground with utter disdain.
    I went peacefully when they came for me, they handed me over to two Victoria policemen who were actually quite pleasant to me. I gave them my licence and they gave me a fine and told me to go home, which I would have by then in any case.
    Everyone at the protest was lovely and peaceful, I had the best time.
    Experiencing such a force against nice, normal, everyday Australians was terrifying and it should terrify everyone. I got off fine and unscathed this time, but this is just the beginning. I can see things getting a darn side worse very quickly.
    Fasten your seatbelts, we’re in for a bumpy ride!

  204. Peter S

    The difficulties of policing should not be underestimated. Nor should mistakes and errors by individuals be cause for condemnation and criticism of all members.

    In the modern world the safety of members can be much more precarious than perhaps it was in the past.

    Generally, the laws that police are required to enforce are subject to considerable debate and amendment by our parliaments before they are enacted, so there is little ambiguity. Coupled with consequent training this process is designed to ensure police enforce the law reasonably and without prejudice.

    The Victorian Government has muddied the water for police by enacting a state of emergency, which gives police unfettered powers, enforcing vague, contradictory, unfair and sometimes downright silly regulations, without providing any serious explanation and justification. These have been drafted in haste by public officials, and given force by the Chief Health Officer.

    Police members are required to enforce these regulations. Given the situation it is not surprising that they will make mistakes. But the accountability for minimising these rests with the upper echelons, not with the ordinary member.

    The police deserve to have the confidence of the general public. But this is eroded by the sort of scandals that have occurred in Victoria over the last 10-15, scandals for which the upper echelons, not the general members, are responsible.

    Sir Robert Peel is remembered as the founder of London’s police force, which set the model for upright, community-based policing. Apart from being the reason English police officers are know as ‘Bobbies’, he was also the source of nine guiding principles formulated in 1829 and subsequently adopted by civilised nations across the world. These principles are just as valid today as they were just under two centuries ago, as are the results of the Stanford Experiment, 50 years ago.

    Something for the Government, and the Chief Commissioner and his immediate associates to think about.

    PRINCIPLE 1:
    The basic mission for which the police exist is to prevent crime and disorder.

    PRINCIPLE 2:
    The ability of the police to perform their duties is dependent upon public approval of police actions.

    PRINCIPLE 3:
    Police must secure the willing cooperation of the public in voluntary observance of the law to be able to secure and maintain the respect of the public.

    PRINCIPLE 4:
    The degree of cooperation of the public that can be secured diminishes proportionately to the necessity of the use of physical force.

    PRINCIPLE 5:
    Police seek and preserve public favor not by catering to the public opinion but by constantly demonstrating absolute impartial service to the law.

    PRINCIPLE 6:
    Police use physical force to the extent necessary to secure observance of the law or to restore order only when the exercise of persuasion, advice and warning is found to be insufficient.

    PRINCIPLE 7:
    Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.

    PRINCIPLE 8:
    Police should always direct their action strictly towards their functions and never appear to usurp the powers of the judiciary.

    PRINCIPLE 9:
    The test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with it.

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