No wind in Dan’s sails, Scomo on fire (sort of) and leave it to LEAN

Wind drought across the nation. All the states from west to east have virtually no wind in the early afternoon today with the exception of Tasmania and Queensland. Tasmania is importing power, presumably to save water.

Just remember that the transition to unreliable energy means that all the black, brown and red parts of the bars have to be replaced by green. Think about it! Check out the chart at dinner time and see how it looks with no solar contribution.

Update, as you could see at 8 pm on the live widget Victoria was down to zero wind, unusual but not a rare event.

Going for Gas!  Oh well, when all you can expect are second, third or fourth rate policy decisions it could have been worse. What were the options after you exclude the first choice? Appeal to AGL to keep Liddell going to honour their social obligations under ESG (Environmental, Social and Corporate Government) principles or the corporate social responsibility rules that are becoming fashionable around the world? Privatize (state or federal)?  Public funding for gas and fast track the red and green approvals? If something can be done to keep the lights on after Liddell is scheduled to close then there is a five-year gap to the scheduled closure of Vales Point.

Leave it to LEAN to sink the ALP.  Funny how quiet the Labour Environmental Action Network has been since the time three weeks ago when they circulated a call to give up gas. I wonder what the Labor heartland would have thought about that when the news got about?

Possibly some intense discussion behind closed doors. Once upon a time it would have been smoke-filled rooms, now maybe on ZOOM.

Now the greens are worried about rare earth mining. The story in The Guardian.

Researchers mapped the areas around more than 60,000 mining properties to assess whether they overlapped with biodiversity conservation sites. They  found mining potentially influences 50m sq km of the Earth’s land surface, and that 82% of mining areas produce materials used in renewable energy production.

Furthermore, they found 8% of these mining areas overlapped with regions designated as protected areas, 7% with key biodiversity areas, and 16% with remaining wilderness.

The full scientific report.

Rare earth mining vs biodiversity

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38 Responses to No wind in Dan’s sails, Scomo on fire (sort of) and leave it to LEAN

  1. Bronson

    Where did they think all the raw materials were coming from for all the windmills and sunshine panels?

  2. Pete of Perth

    Nature paper… They assume that a mine has a 50km impact zone citing a ref to do with deforestation around mines in Brazil Amazon. To their credit they also modelled with an impact zone of 10km.

  3. Texas Jack

    Biodiversity (the noun) has been bandied around as if it’s completely above scrutiny by the usual lame suspects for the past thirty years. Those who spray it around can’t even explain it. All we know is they like it and want more, cost-benefit be damned.

  4. Dr Faustus

    You can tell that ScoMo has somehow manoeuvred over the target from the screams from the renewables carpetbaggers with their noses pressed to the window:

    Government commitment to new gas generation unnecessary and unhelpful

    Clean energy investors are ready to build the next wave of new renewable energy and energy storage projects to meet the challenge set out in the Federal Government’s latest policy statement, but policy stability along with reform and investment in the grid are crucial to providing confidence to investors.

    That is, the confidence that comes from massive government funding to provide energy storage technologies and upgrade the transmission system on the east coast to allow entry for distributed renewable generation projects with yummy returns and low risk.

    Meanwhile, AGL knows that there are far too many moving parts for Snowy Hydro to deliver 1000MW of gas-fired into NSW by 2023 in any sensible way.

    Be ready to watch big slabs of OPM sliding into chortling pockets to keep the lights on.

  5. Tim Neilson

    Once upon a time it would have been smoke-filled rooms, now maybe on ZOOM.

    A woke-filled ZOOM?

  6. Bruce of Newcastle

    Researchers mapped the areas around more than 60,000 mining properties to assess whether they overlapped with biodiversity conservation sites.

    There’s always a lesser spotted newt.

    Going for Gas! Oh well, when all you can expect are second, third or fourth rate policy decisions it could have been worse.

    For ScoMo to build a CCGT plant he’d need gas to put into it. Gas doesn’t grow on trees (at least not that sort of gas).

    So he’s going to have to force the premiers to open gas extraction, like the Narrabri project, and overturn their bans, like Dan the Green Man’s one. Expect many many lesser spotted newts to be discovered in those areas in the near future.

  7. Where did they think all the raw materials were coming from for all the windmills and sunshine panels?

    The usual place, from a factory somewhere in China. Since when did any Green understand the processes involved in producing anything?

    It reminds me of that old BLF slogan, ‘We built this city’, which conveniently omits everything that was needed to pay for, provide and support the building process before one BLF member could be employed.

    The BLF were just a bunch of tools at the end of the supply chain. Just as the Greens are a bunch of tools.

  8. Lee

    Where did they think all the raw materials were coming from for all the windmills and sunshine panels?

    With the fairies at the bottom of the garden.
    That’s just the problem; greenies and renewable energy promoters don’t “think,” except about the profits they can personally make.

  9. H B Bear

    State Liar governments have just about killed the Australian onshore gas industry already.

  10. H B Bear

    Next stop for gas is LNG import terminal. About where the US was under the Magic Negro.

  11. duncanm

    Bronson
    #3586019, posted on September 15, 2020 at 3:43 pm
    Where did they think ..

    you can stop right there.

  12. Stanley

    About that mining article. Its a joke. They add “pre-operational” areas in with active mine areas. You can see from their global map that they assume that every sq km applied for exploration purposes will become an active operation, when experience tells you the chances of developing a mine is as good as my chance in dating Taylor Swift. Furthermore they add a 50 km impact zone and then claim there’s an “enormous spatial footprint…not factored… into threat maps or conservation plans”. An own goal in hyperbole (sorry “hyperbowl”). I know of many mining operations that have nothing like a 50km impact zone, and especially those greenfields subject to “touch of a feather” exploration. I bet they assumed mineral rights boundaries on a State GIS are the same extent of mining operations when they are not. The logic of the authors’ argument is barely 1st grade.

  13. Nick

    The Greens, using their mobiles that require rare earth materials, to tweet about rare earth mining.

  14. Bruce of Newcastle

    My favourite is the microscopic underground land prawn that stopped a mine in WA.
    Sigh. In NSW every tree is about to become a koala tree, so nothing will be able to be built anywhere.

  15. Forget it guys.
    It’s far too late to try to talk sense into government, greenies and scam corporations.
    Countries, like businesses, go broke slowly then in a rush.
    Our next budgets from State and Federal aren’t going to be worth the paper they’re printed on.
    We are into WA Inc territory now, with Bondie at the helm making promises he knows are utter bullshit.

    Buy Baked beans, bullets and dunny paper.

  16. Nighthawk the Elder

    Slightly off topic, but has some relevance. It’s typical of the left to hijack an existing word or terminology and pollute its meaning to suit their agenda. Anyone who has been involved in quality assurance or process improvement programs will have heard of Lean Manufacturing. Something the lefties should learn about and at least try an apply some of methodologies.

    When I first saw the word LEAN in earlier versions of this story my first thought was that labor was finally going to do something about the grotesque waste of resources. Alas no, they actually intend to multiply their wastefulness exponentially.

  17. Squirrel

    The “demand management” strategy which the renewables pests like to waffle on about as an alternative to new coal or gas power plants should, of course, operate on the basis that load-shedding at times of peak demand starts with the areas/electorates which have the highest proportion of Green voters.

    Slightly more seriously, even if there are practical obstacles to Morrison’s threat, it’s good to see some pushback against the mad zealotry which pretends that renewables technology is anywhere near being able to match the reliability and affordability of what its proponents are doing their best to kill off.

  18. Bruce

    The ONLY reason that the ALP and its foot-soldiers in the eco-whatever movement are starting to arc-up about “Rare Earths” is that the world market and primary sources are tightly stitched up by China.

    Chinese “investment” companies have been steadily buying up rare earth leases and operations around the world, but particularly in North America, for years.

  19. Rob MW

    Leave it to LEAN to sink the ALP. Funny how quiet the Labour Environmental Action Network has been since the time three weeks ago when they circulated a call to give up gas.

    So the female wing-nut in the photo is Felicity Wade and the photo was taken of her in her back yard in the Sydney inner city suburb of Enmore. She obviously knows everything about the environment by reading all those text books written by arseholes surveying ducks in Centennial Park.

  20. Colonel Bunty Golightly

    Hanrahan was right!

  21. Bill The Bunyip

    B of N
    the stygo scam is ongoing in the goldfields. There are populations of the things all over the world but the WA goldfields have had a lot of drilling done. Guess why the goldfields have more discovered populations of the things than elsewhere.
    I was working with a company doing a stygo survey and one bore apparently had a “rare” species in it. There was some discussion that we should pump several thousand litres out and then seed all the other monitoring bores to make the particular species less rare. Whether that happened I cannot say but the “rare’ tag was missing in the next survey report.

  22. Going for Gas! Oh well, when all you can expect are second, third or fourth rate policy decisions it could have been worse.

    Don’t worry Rafe, it’s a Morrison announcement so it’s guaranteed to have zero follow through.

  23. NoFixedAddress

    LEAN

    Labor “Environmentalists” Are Nuts

  24. Boambee John

    m0nty

    Good to see you sober today.

    In case you missed it on the old open thread, did you see that multiple members of Mueller’s “team” of “impartial” investigators deleted all data from their official mobile phones before handing them to the Inspector General?

    Now where was it I read about someone getting into trouble over deleting evidence before (before even Shrillary, that is)? Some bloke named Nixon?

    Seems you might have accidentally been correct for once in your life. The Mueller “investigation” will eventually demonstrate that Wussia, Wussia, Wussia really was worse than Watergate, just not in the way you claimed! It’s always the cover up that finally traps the crooks.

    I wonder which of Mueller’s mob will be the first to roll over when the words “Obstruction of justice” are used?

  25. Steve

    Note for TAFKAS: This gives me ( nightmarish ) cold sweats…..this is the coming “re”-education camps?
    Now its quite blatant. Round em up….prepping for the coming US civil war?

    Covid Macht Frie?

    what the hell?

    https://dailyheadlines.net/cdc-announces-that-kids-may-be-kept-from-parents-as-one-state-sets-up-covid-19-fema-camps/?utm_source=Mailer-DH&utm_medium=email&utm_content=subscriber_id:3222390&utm_campaign=9/11.net%205pm

    “”CDC Announces That Kids May Be Kept From Parents As ONE State Sets Up COVID-19 FEMA Camps

    “The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is warning parents that their children may be kept from their parents overnight due to COVID-19 concerns, as states set up COVID-19 shelters where infected individuals could be forcibly quarantined.

    ““Tell school administrators about any extra supplies your child may need to safely make it through a night away from home,” the CDC wrote to parents in their advisory. “Bring extra medicines, special foods, or supplies your child would need if separated overnight.

    ““Complete a backpack card and tuck one in your child’s backpack and your wallet,” they added.

    “At the same time, Ohio is taking measures to create isolation camps with assistance from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) that can house COVID-19 patients in certain instances.

    “Ohio Department of Health (ODH) Interim Director Lance Himes issued a state-wide order on Aug. 31 enacting these camps to house people who “are unable to safely self-quarantine in their place of residence and to isolate those diagnosed with or showing symptoms of COVID-19.”

    “The Ohio camps will be used to house people who “test positive for COVID-19 who do not require hospitalization but need isolation (including those exiting from hospitals); those who have been exposed to COVID-19 who do not require hospitalization; and asymptomatic high-risk individuals needing social distancing as a precautionary measure.”

    “Dan Tierney, who works as the press secretary to Ohio’s Republican Governor Mike DeWine, downplayed any worries about the FEMA camps being erected throughout the state.

  26. Rob

    Politicians who follow and understand that Live supply and demand chart are clearly few and far between.
    Replace Liddell’s 2,000MW output with a 1,000 MW gas power station and that’l fix the grid eh?
    No chance.
    Just stop stuffing around and build a 2,000MW HELE coal fired plant with a contract to run it flat out 24/7 for the next 50 years. Much lower emissions than Liddell, much cheaper power than dodgy renewables.

  27. Nob

    Nighthawk the Elder
    #3586151, posted on September 15, 2020 at 6:04 pm
    Slightly off topic, but has some relevance. It’s typical of the left to hijack an existing word or terminology and pollute its meaning to suit their agenda.

    Oh yes.

    Didn’t they have multiple orgasms all over the internet when they discovered the phrase “peer review”?

  28. Nob

    Last wedding I was at before COVID, I was talking to a friend’s daughter. Lovely lass, I’ve known her since she was born.

    She was telling me proudly about a motorway bridge they managed to stop getting built near where she was brought up in Ireland, due to some unexceptional little creature whose name I can’t remember found nearby .

    Construction is still due to take place but the delays so far have cost them about 9 years.

    She then boasted that they have dozens more critters up their sleeves to continue harassing and bleeding the builders with court challenges, drip-releasing one “threatened” creature at a time.

    I mean , everyone knows this is what happens (except the dimwit Australian media ) but it was still shocking to hear it stated so smugly by an out and proud activist.

  29. RobK

    Now state governments are trying to encourage battery uptake for domestic consumers. To do this properly is expensive and those that go that way may as well island themselves completely off the grid. They will only consume sporadically. This leaves less consumers to pay for grid services. Everyone pays more. It is the dumbest, most short sighted public policy eva.

  30. PB

    ABC News, searching around for opposition to Morrison’s plan for gas to ensure base-load power in the future and what do they come up with? A 12 year old schoolgirl.

    Turns out Morrison’s plan is roolly bad n’ stuff.

  31. PB

    “”CDC Announces That Kids May Be Kept From Parents As ONE State Sets Up COVID-19 FEMA Camps”

    Remember when FEMA camps were a crazy conspiracy theory? We may now find out what the supposed associated stockpiling of coffins back then was all about.

  32. Up The Workers!

    Interesting boot in the photo – I hope it gets awarded to Deadly Dan the Chi-Com Man in the bear future.

    Would that be the same one forcefully deployed by the Partners at Slater & Gordon when Juliar went flying at a great rate of knots through their back door and out into the alley-way?

    Regrettably its twin hasn’t been seen ever since it was swiftly deployed by Labor Caucus leaving an indelible imprint on Juliars posterior as she was propelled through the back doors of Parliament House.

  33. Astatine Jones

    The term ‘biodiversity’ might have been bandied around a lot in recent years, and even used out of context, inappropriately or for ‘political’ purposes. However, it’s hardly an invention by ‘the Greens’. It’s simply an encapsulation in a word of scientific ideas, concepts and knowledge concerning ecosystems that have developed over a much longer time – and continue to evolve.

    Compromise between the environment and human needs is generally unavoidable in any sort of development scenario which is why we have things like the EPBC Act in Australia to provide oversight of process.

    When it comes to an assessment of ecosystem health, the expertise of ecologists and the like should be first port of call, not the opinion of economists or mining engineers.

  34. Lee

    When it comes to an assessment of e̶c̶o̶s̶y̶s̶t̶e̶m̶ ̶h̶e̶a̶l̶t̶h̶, renewable energy the expertise of ̶e̶c̶o̶l̶o̶g̶i̶s̶t̶s sensible economists, electrical engineers and the like should be first port of call, not the opinion of greens, banks, environmental alarmists and AGW carpetbaggers.

  35. Rex Anger

    ametalloud Man, practically every Cat is aware of what biodiversity practically means, and what it mens to NIMBYs, lawfarers and environmental Marxists of all stripes.

    Yes, we have state and federal bodies and processes. Yes, they mostly work.

    But this is all very much tangential to the issue at hand. Which is the cynical exploitation of said processes and appeals to political ends. All in the cause of anti-capitialism, de-industrialisation and the forcible imposition of primitivist (for we masses, including you Metalloid Man), socialist (for the benefit of the enthusiasts and useful idiots) Utopia (for the elites driving this madness, and their chosen fellow travellers. At least until the next purge…).

  36. Astatine Jones

    When it comes to an assessment of e̶c̶o̶s̶y̶s̶t̶e̶m̶ ̶h̶e̶a̶l̶t̶h̶, renewable energy the expertise of ̶e̶c̶o̶l̶o̶g̶i̶s̶t̶s sensible economists, electrical engineers and the like should be first port of call, not the opinion of greens, banks, environmental alarmists and AGW carpetbaggers.

    Perhaps so. But when confronted with shocking words like ‘biodiversity’ and ‘ecosystem’, let alone reliable information that such ‘abstract’ things might actually be threatened by human action, one would be advised to avoid the knee-jerk response of ‘greens’, ‘alarmists’ and ‘AGW carpetbaggers’ lest they appear to have the reasoning capacity of a cnidarian nerve net!

  37. John A

    Nob #3586445, posted on September 15, 2020, at 10:57 pm

    Last wedding I was at before COVID, I was talking to a friend’s daughter. Lovely lass, I’ve known her since she was born.

    She was telling me proudly about a motorway bridge they managed to stop getting built near where she was brought up in Ireland, due to some unexceptional little creature whose name I can’t remember found nearby.

    Construction is still due to take place but the delays so far have cost them about 9 years.

    She then boasted that they have dozens more critters up their sleeves to continue harassing and bleeding the builders with court challenges, drip-releasing one “threatened” creature at a time.

    I mean, everyone knows this is what happens (except the dimwit Australian media ) but it was still shocking to hear it stated so smugly by an out and proud activist.

    Now, Nob, has the relevant local authority been informed (through channels, of course) about this nefarious strategy? Or have they learned of it the hard way, as attested by the nine-year delay?

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