Tuesday Forum: September 15, 2020

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  1. MemoryFault

    You need to stop predicting Faulty.
    You are not very good at it.

    I predict a stock market crash very soon. You predict investor’s dream forever.
    I predict a Budget delivered on October 6. You predict nothing will happen.
    I predict Opposition will reply to Budget October 8. You predict nothing will happen.
    I speculate an early election called if Budget received favourably.
    You predict government will go full term.

    We’ll see how it pans out.

  2. Rex Anger

    @ Oh come on-

    I wonder how Melbourne is going in this year’s World’s Most Livable City competition?

    It is the most liveable city ever, Comrade! Look at all the people living in it! LockDan is good! LockDan is life! LockDrones will not come at take me away for being ‘problematic’ because I support LockDan and his liveable liveability Lockdown!

    (You know, I might not do that again. That was genuinely painful, trying to ape the shouty, yet sterile, beige mindset of a good LockDrone-supporting leftwit. I truly don’t know how mUnted and the Bin Chicken manage to do it and still present a semblance of lucidity…)

  3. Roger

    I didn’t know she was old school.

    Old school in the sense that her views were formed in the 1970s/80s amidst the wash of the second wave.

    I don’t know that she was ever a card carrying member of the sisterhood but clearly she won’t be bullied.

    Good for her.

  4. Roger

    I wonder how Melbourne is going in this year’s World’s Most Livable City competition?

    I hear the traffic is light.

  5. EvilElvis

    SKyNews says they might have missed 60,000 Covid cases (nobody was sick) but gotta keep the alarmism going. It’s competing with their ABC these days.

    Seriously.
    Millions of us have had COVID19 & didn’t even know it.

    I have this out with several smart, educated, conservative thinking people at work constantly. How Vic is so terrible (agreed) and WA is doing great on the covid front. Our small spread out population and lack of testing doesn’t enter their minds as a reason. Don’t test or look for it and people just get on with it without realising they have it. Despite the drum banging McGowan really hasn’t done much, imagine if he’d done nothing at all! Except keep those Mexicans out, dirty dirty Mexicans.

  6. Leigh Lowe

    Oh come on

    #3586650, posted on September 16, 2020 at 9:35 am

    I wonder how Melbourne is going in this year’s World’s Most Livable City competition?

    Funnily enough I read a magazine survey the other day saying it was right up there.
    It might have been in “Agoraphobia Today”.
    Or possibly “Introverts Monthly”.

  7. Oh come on

    I hear Pyongyang is nipping at Melbourne’s heels.

  8. MemoryFault

    Funnily enough I read a magazine survey the other day saying it was right up there.

    Well, household burglaries are right down.
    Does that count?

  9. Oh come on

    Melbourne is lucky that Raqqa is no longer controlled by ISIS. Raqqa under ISIS rule would be very tough for Melbourne to best.

  10. mh

    I wonder how Melbourne is going in this year’s World’s Most Livable City competition?

    Wonderful markets, horses, police in fancy dress. What’s not to love?

  11. MemoryFault

    Dunno about that, OCO.
    In Raqqa people were free to practice their religion anytime, anywhere – as long as it was i s l a m.
    Much the same in Melbourne.

  12. mh

    I still think San Fran will shit in.

  13. EvilElvis

    Until the right begin to fight the culture wars…nothing..and I mean nothing will change. The problem is that the right still think that polite engagement is the way and they refuse to get their hands dirty…the only people who are willing to stand up and fight are Donald Trump and here in Oz…..Pauline Hanson and Mark Latham.

    I’m off this whole ‘culture wars’ crap. It may mean something when you come from a country with lineage going back thousands of years or where the country has had to fight for itself to establish a nation but we are neither. We are young and the waters of whatever fanciful Australian culture we think we have has been steadily getting diluted for decades. We quite simply need to get back to basics and common sense, work hard and live within our means. Prosperity will lead to culture. You can’t import it or make it up. The left are empty souls who live under the delusion you can import diversity and you achieve culture. It’s because they are lazy, easily corrupted and satisfied to never earn their way in society, living a fantasy instilling their traits on us all while never gaining satisfaction. Forget culture. Take the money away from them, get them desperate and focusing on their next meal filling their stomach, not their next virtue signal filling their ever empty souls.

  14. Roger

    Yesterday it was Kamala, today it’s Joe referring to a “Harris-Biden administration”.

    Joe’s polling among Democrats must be heading south.

  15. Leigh Lowe

    I predict a stock market crash very soon. You predict investor’s dream forever.

    You’ve already had two failed predictions on that. Define “soon”. And link to my “dream forever” prediction.

    I predict a Budget delivered on October 6. You predict nothing will happen.

    That is a gazetted event so not really a big Tarot card effort predicting that. Link to where I said there would be no budget.

    I predict Opposition will reply to Budget October 8. You predict nothing will happen.

    Ditto. It is not a stretch to “predict” gazetted events.
    I predict Christmas on 25th December.

    I speculate an early election called if Budget received favourably.

    To be called by when exactly?

    You predict government will go full term.

    Link to where I made any such prediction.
    .
    Keep going.
    One day the cards will fall you way.
    Like the broken clock, you will be right for a fleeting moment.
    Christ, it wasn’t your Global Meltdown Catastrophe which was the problem. It was the way you put on the High Priest of Economics cloak quacking on about it coming three months precisely after some perceived glitch in money supply stats (which more than one person here told you was horseshit).

  16. Leo G

    I wonder how Melbourne is going in this year’s World’s Most Livable City competition?

    Risibly vincible.

  17. calli

    I wonder how Melbourne is going in this year’s World’s Most Livable City competition?

    Front runner in the World’s Most Lockable City Comp.

  18. Leigh Lowe

    Sinc.
    Can you ban Elvis for taking my top ‘o de page spot.
    Thanks.

  19. rickw

    Getting coffee this morning, cafe owner very upset at woman getting dragged from her car in Epping.

    I offered up my comment that the problem with Victoria is Victorians.

    “You are right! To many of my customers think this is ok! It is not ok! What is wrong with these people?! They have been brainwashed!”

  20. notafan

    Rex you should be on Twitter with excellent opinions like that.

    The morons thought they were ‘outing ‘ the lady who is pursuing the curfew and of course encouraging each other to boycott her cafe.

    Despicable people.

  21. I see Trump has started RTing stuff about Biden being a rock spider. I wonder how long it will be before Kates links to 8chan in an OP. The whole US right is going to go full Bird before November.

  22. notafan

    Monty jumps back on the prediction train.

  23. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Breonna Taylor’s family gets $US12m payout after she was killed by police

    By Scott Calvert
    2 hours ago September 16, 2020

    The city of Louisville, Kentucky, will pay $US12 million ($16m) to the estate of Breonna Taylor, a 26-year-old Black woman killed by police during a raid on her apartment, as part of a legal settlement with her family.

    The settlement, which was announced by Louisville Mayor Greg Fischer and attorneys for Ms. Taylor’s estate Tuesday, also requires the city to implement police reforms, including a mandate for supervisors to sign off on search warrants.

    Ms Taylor was killed on March 13 by Louisville police officers executing a no-knock warrant, which allows officers to storm a residence without announcing their presence.

    “In order for the community to heal and move forward, there needs to be legitimacy and trust between the community and the police force,” said Mr. Fischer, a Democrat. “We hope that these are steps that are going to begin that process.”

    Other plans he laid out include pairing social workers with police officers on some calls and developing an early-warning system to track officers’ use of force incidents and citizen complaints.

    Tamika Palmer, Ms. Taylor’s mother, along with the family’s attorneys and activists speaking at the Tuesday news conference, called for the state attorney general, who is conducting an investigation into the killing, to bring criminal charges against the officers who took part in the raid.

    “It’s time to move forward with the criminal charges because she deserves that and much more,” Ms. Palmer said. “Her beautiful spirit and personality is working through all of us on the ground, so please continue to say her name, Breonna Taylor.”

    Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron is leading an investigation into the killing over possible violations of state law. Separately, the Federal Bureau of Investigation has opened a probe into Ms. Taylor’s death over potential civil-rights violations.

    A spokeswoman for Mr. Cameron, a Republican, said the investigation is ongoing but declined to give more details.

    Ms Taylor’s death has fuelled protests nationwide and focused attention on issues of race and law enforcement, as have other high-profile cases, including the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis on May 25.

    Ms Taylor, who had worked as an emergency-room technician, was in bed with her boyfriend, 27-year-old Kenneth Walker, when three plainclothes police officers broke through her apartment’s front door early in the morning on March 13, according to a wrongful-death lawsuit filed by her family against the officers.

    Investigators said an alleged drug dealer they were pursuing had received packages at Ms. Taylor’s home, according to a search-warrant affidavit.

    Attorneys for Ms. Taylor’s family said police burst in without warning, leading the couple to believe they were intruders. Police said that although officers had a no-knock warrant, they still knocked several times and announced themselves.

    Mr. Walker, who has a license to carry a firearm, shot at them, according to his attorney, and struck one of the officers, according to police.

    Officers responded by firing more than 20 bullets, at least eight of which hit and killed Ms. Taylor, according to the family’s attorneys. No drugs were found at Ms. Taylor’s home, and she had no criminal record, the attorneys said.

  24. calli

    We are young and the waters of whatever fanciful Australian culture we think we have has been steadily getting diluted for decades. We quite simply need to get back to basics and common sense, work hard and live within our means. Prosperity will lead to culture. You can’t import it or make it up.

    Interesting thoughts, Elvis. John Constantine used to call it “superseded Old Australia”.

    It has been replaced with a vacuum of progressive idiocy.

  25. MemoryFault

    Ditto. It is not a stretch to “predict” gazetted events.

    That didn’t stop you and Nick making fourteen straight comments between you a couple of weeks ago, claiming I was predicting the end of the world or something for that date.
    Or were you “merely trying to say . . .”?
    Again.

  26. Snoopy

    MV

    I predict a Budget delivered on October 6. You predict nothing will happen.
    I predict Opposition will reply to Budget October 8. You predict nothing will happen.

    Some prediction.

    20 March 2020
    2020-21 Budget announcement

    Having regard to this situation, the Government has decided to defer the 2020-21 Budget until 6 October 2020.

  27. Mother Lode

    Old school in the sense that her views were formed in the 1970s/80s amidst the wash of the second wave.

    Germaine Greer has discovered increasingly that she is not leaving feminism, but feminism is leaving her.

  28. MatrixTransform

    mental-health-patient-put-in-induced-coma-after-police-hit-him-with-car-and-stomp-on-his-head

    inVik, the PROPER way to get admitted to a hospital is of course to get the Polis to assist

  29. Mother Lode

    Any day now. Aaaaaaany day…

  30. EvilElvis

    Interesting thoughts, Elvis. John Constantine used to call it “superseded Old Australia”.

    It has been replaced with a vacuum of progressive idiocy.

    Damn, Calli. I miss that guy.

    Comrades.

  31. Infidel Tiger King

    Morning Faulty!

  32. dover_beach

    Trump is whispering about Saudi Arabia recognizing Israel. Trump the Peacemaker.

  33. woolfe

    If you like playing with graphs and data this is a good site

    https://ourworldindata.org/

  34. Leigh Lowe

    notafan

    #3586684, posted on September 16, 2020 at 10:04 am

    Monty jumps back on the prediction train.

    Yep, we’ve got duelling mystics here this morning.

  35. MemoryFault

    Morning, impotent prawn.
    Put anybody in hospital this week?

  36. Leigh Lowe

    MemoryFault

    #3586698, posted on September 16, 2020 at 10:12 am

    Morning, impotent prawn.
    Put anybody in hospital this week?

    When has ITK ever done that?
    What are you on about Faulty?

  37. Makka

    “You are right! To many of my customers think this is ok! It is not ok! What is wrong with these people?! They have been brainwashed!”

    It’s a huge problem in Vic. Combined with Fed sitdown money rolling in, this is their leftard wet dream come true. Not worth the effort of saving.

  38. zyconoclast

    Good.
    Let’s see if it happens.

    A federal appeals court has effectively greenlighted the Trump administration’s plan to expel more than 300,000 undocumented immigrants from El Salvador, Nicaragua and Sudan from the U.S. by ending the “temporary protected status” they have enjoyed for as long as two decades.

    A 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel ruled 2-1 Monday that a federal judge in San Francisco erred in 2018 when he blocked the administration’s move to terminate the deportation protections granted to nationals of four countries because of natural disasters, wars or other upheavals in their homelands.

    While the 9th Circuit’s decision also lifted that injunction with respect to unlawful immigrants from Haiti, a New York federal judge’s injunction preventing Haitians from being deported remains in place.

  39. zyconoclast

    The City of San Francisco will pay Black and Pacific Islander women $1,000 a month during their pregnancies and after birth in a pilot program to study how the monthly support helps achieve better maternal health and birthing outcomes.

    The Abundant Birth Project will provide the monthly supplement to approximately 150 women in San Francisco for the duration of their pregnancy and the first six months of the baby’s life, with the goal of eventually providing the supplement for up to two years post-pregnancy, according to a press statement from Mayor London Breed.

  40. Rex Anger

    @ Egg-
    “black liberation movement” staffed almost entirely by college-educated white women

    Assuaging their privilege?

    Nah. Just making sure that they get their recommended daily dose of irony.

    It’s all doctor’s orders, you see. Like the ads on telly 20 odd years ago. Ladies got to eat the red meat, etc. for the iron. Except red meat is off limits now, cos environmental Marxism.

    You gotta get it where you can…

  41. Infidel Tiger King

    Put anybody in hospital this week

    I’m only on my second coffee, old chum.

    Let me wake up a bit and then we’ll see if we can get you sectioned, you creepy old crank.

  42. mh

    Morning, impotent prawn.
    Put anybody in hospital this week?

    Is ITK working for VicPol now?

  43. zyconoclast

    If the nation’s police officers walked off the job today, it would be hard to blame them.

    Sunday’s anti-cop riots in Lancaster, Pa., have made the current de facto rules of engagement clear: Officers may never defend themselves against lethal force if their attacker is a minority. They should simply accept being shot or stabbed as penance for their alleged racism.

  44. Mother Lode

    Trump is whispering about Saudi Arabia recognizing Israel.

    Has Obama come out and claimed Trump is merely reaping the fruits of his own diplomatic efforts yet?

    It is funny to compare the two. Obama goes to SA and bows so low that when he stands he has an imprint of the carpet on his forehead, and then delivers a speech apologising for America’s existence and how it has made problems so intractable. (And you can be sure there were a lot of pages of the NYT sticking together when that was reported.)

    Trump is setting up a real peace over there. He might talk loudly about his achievements but if he didn’t people would not know. Certainly not from the MSM. And Trump is not even coming in leading a country needing the ME’s one big product, oil.

    I honestly did not expect to see peace in the ME, much less peace from the ME, in my lifetime. But it might really happen!

  45. Rex Anger

    Germaine Greer has discovered increasingly that she is not leaving feminism, but feminism is leaving her.

    Just more people recognising sexual Marxism for what it is, what it has wrought and what it continues to wreak. Blecch.

    One wonders if old Karl himself would find himself abandoned by his own creatiin, and we’d be nodding sagely along with him, appalling anathema (and ironically hilarious) as such a concept might be…

  46. Leigh Lowe

    Is ITK working for VicPol now?

    🐅😪😪🚑🏥🤐

  47. notafan

    And just like that IT keeps back into pole gang of four position.

    MV =Creepy old lying crank

  48. Philby

    Mick your abusive description of the person unlawfully run down and assaulted by head kicking sounds just like vicplods version. The father stated his son a small business owner and employer had a history of bipolar disorder and had no history of self harm or violence. Because the medication prescribed by a doctor was not meeting his needs he voluntarily checked into the hospital. There are literally thousands of high functioning people in the community who have chemical imbalances that require medication for issues and they function well (even police) in our society but the drugs over time can become less effective. Apparently after 20 hours and little or no attention he cracked it as any same person would. I lasted 2 hours in emergency with breathing problems and being ignored so I left no police involved at all. If the hospital thought he was a danger to himself why did they wait 20 hours with no treatment or bed. We have seen the laughable charges brought by police against a person who was treated abominably by the hospital and allegedly unlawfully by the police and straight away IBAC are investigating as will a Judge in due course. To call a person a “nutter” based on flimsy comments issued by police is disgraceful. Where the hell is Juliar and Beyond Blue speaking out in support of this citizen.

  49. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Struth, a bit more…

    Farewell to Australia forever
    Farewell to it’s freedoms as well
    For a small bunch of socialist nutters
    Hold the power to send us to hell.

    We’ve a despotic arsehole in Canberra
    Who along with his Premier mates,
    Is funding the taking of freedoms,
    As the putsch rolls all over the states
    CH

    He’s denied us our Document’s freedoms,
    While funding these coup d’etat rules?/laws?
    As his words seek to coax our agreement,
    His lies stand before our….

    CH
    Singing, nothing because we’re not allowed to
    Singing sounds shit through a mask anyway
    No dancing , no embracing no gathering
    While an orgy gets the OK

  50. Leo G

    Yesterday it was Kamala, today it’s Joe referring to a “Harris-Biden administration”.

    Do not trust the hollow donkey, Trumpians!
    Whatever it is, I fear the Democrats, even those bearing gifts.

  51. Some History

    Anyone know if Pornelius the Condescending – Food Disposal Expert – has commented on the “optics” of the weekend’s ram-stomp?

  52. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Officers may never defend themselves against lethal force if their attacker is a minority. They should simply accept being shot or stabbed as penance for their alleged racism.

    All this is part of a cunning plot, carried out by agents provocateurs – Trump will be re- elected in a landslide, and then the rubber will meet the road..

  53. zyconoclast

    Simp training is real

    Sweet moment schoolboy, 7, waits outside school gates with flowers wearing his favourite aftershave to win back ‘girlfriend’ who dumped him over his ‘bad attitude’ in class

    The little boy’s actions were praised by Sophie’s mother, who said ‘if all men grew up to be like him, there’d be a lot more happy women’.

  54. notafan

    And they didn’t ram his car, they rammed his body.

  55. Leigh Lowe

    Snoopy

    #3586688, posted on September 16, 2020 at 10:07 am

    MV

    I predict a Budget delivered on October 6. You predict nothing will happen.
    I predict Opposition will reply to Budget October 8. You predict nothing will happen.

    Some prediction

    Yes.
    Predicting gazetted sittings of Parliament is no biggy.
    But I guess we are back to training wheels after The Global Catastrophic Armageddon Meltdown (with a side serving of Apocalypso) was a total bust.
    Maybe he should just stick to giving us reports of bingo results from the bowlie.

  56. According the this website, the following are detention centres are run by DFAT, and most of them are in mothballs – Port Augusta West, South Australia, Curtin Temporary Immigration Reception and Processing Centre, Derby, Western Australia, Port Hedland Immigration Reception and Processing Centre, Port Hedland, Western Australia, Port Hedland Residential Housing Project, Port Hedland, Western Australia, Woomera Immigration Reception and Processing Centre, Woomera West, South Australia, Woomera Residential Housing Project, Woomera, South Australia.
    Given the backlog of returning Australians in hotel quarantine in the state capitals except for Melbourne, maybe it would make sense to use these mothballed facilities as quarantine locations. The precedent was set with the use of Christmas Island Detention centre for returnees from China.
    Bringing individuals who are a risk of infections into our most densely populated centres really makes little sense when there is an alternative. Lessons should have been learnt from the Ruby Princess and Melbourne quarantine failures.
    There would be plenty of problems to be solved, but using existing material and staffing infrastructure connected with DFAT’s responsibility for these centres makes sense.

  57. Gab

    The whole political vision of the left, including socialism and communism, has failed by virtually every empirical test, in countries all around the world. But this has only led leftist intellectuals to evade and denigrate empirical evidence

    – Tomas Sowell

  58. Bar Beach Swimmer

    We quite simply need to get back to basics and common sense, work hard and live within our means. Prosperity will lead to culture. You can’t import it or make it up. The left are empty souls who live under the delusion you can import diversity and you achieve culture. It’s because they are lazy, easily corrupted and satisfied to never earn their way in society, living a fantasy instilling their traits on us all while never gaining satisfaction. Forget culture. Take the money away from them, get them desperate and focusing on their next meal filling their stomach, not their next virtue signal filling their ever empty souls.

    EE, that was real poetry (though said in prose😊!)

  59. MemoryFault

    Excellent, Beach Swimmer.

    You and Struth need to form a duo.
    I can’t sing for nuts, but I’ll happily accompany you two on keyboard.
    There’s precious few of us who see it as any more than a purely Victoriastan problem.

    Maybe Calli might like add that feminine touch?

  60. notafan

    No problem with people voluntarily staying at defacto quarantine stations.

    As long as they pay for their own drugs and alcohol and don’t whinge.

  61. notafan

    BBS identified as female.

  62. johanna

    All those sports administrators on fat salaries who just had to open the loading dock for D8 scoops full of hundred dollar bills to empty into the trough are getting a dose of reality:

    Seven and CA remain at loggerheads on the eve of the 2020-21 season, with the disgruntled free-to-air broadcaster threatening to walk away from its $450 commitment to the sport.

    The media giant last week issued CA a legal letter, declaring the governing body had breached its contract.

    CA is yet to formally respond to that dispute, which if further escalated could potentially result in Seven terminating its deal.

    The broadcaster, which used a range of arguments while pushing for its annual rights fee to be reduced, has now grown tired of CA’s refusal to enter negotiations and opted to apply its own discount.

    Seven, which was due to pay $25 million to CA on Tuesday, has confirmed a smaller total has been transferred.

    “Seven has paid the first instalment reflecting our assessment of fair value,” Seven chief executive James Warburton said in a statement.

    Seven is unlikely to make future payments, which indicates a legal stoush is looming unless the feuding parties reconcile their significant differences soon.

    CA’s interim chief executive Nick Hockley is desperate to avoid a hammer blow to his organisation’s revenue.

    He has the backing of a board that has repeatedly declared it will not offer any form of discount on the six-year broadcast deal, which totalled $1.2 billion and was signed in 2018.

    Those sports administrators thought they were financial geniuses when they had the networks by the short and curlies, and bumped up their own salaries accordingly.

    Now that the realities of the business world have struck, they are flapping about like a caught fish in the bottom of an aluminium boat. Genius is seemingly in short supply.

  63. Bar Beach Swimmer

    notafan
    #3586736, posted on September 16, 2020 at 10:43 am
    BBS identified as female

    Nota, not sure what you mean? I am female.

  64. MemoryFault

    My mistake, Beach Swimmer.
    My humble apologies – I didn’t realise you were one of our highly esteemed Lady Cats.

  65. dover_beach

    Until the right begin to fight the culture wars…nothing..and I mean nothing will change.

    The problem with the right is that they phoned it in re the culture over the last 50 years. The right as a political movement was completely uninterested in preserving and cultivating the sources, traditions, customs and mores of Western culture through our cultural institutions in any substantive sense. Indeed, we continued to fund these institutions even as they developed a pathologically critical attitude to Western culture. So focused on criticizing ‘the state’ it completely lost focus of its proper function which was always more than merely preserving the safety of individuals. Indeed, a public cannot even arise from such an anemic conception of the state. How they were blind to this can only be explained by their overarching liberalism and yet their fasincination with Greece and Rome should have told them otherwise.

  66. Some History

    A Current Affair background on ram-stomp.

    https://www.facebook.com/ACurrentAffair9/videos/brothers-anger/742692799846830/

    People are being turned away from mental health services – no beds available. Are mental health services understaffed, e.g., due to covid? Or are they fully-functioning and at capacity? Is there a mental health crisis in progress that is overwhelming the system and that no-one seems to want to talk about?

  67. mindfree

    Philby at 10:29am
    Where the hell is Juliar and Beyond Blue speaking out in support of this citizen.

    +1

  68. Oh come on

    m0nty, are you psychologically prepared for the possibility of a second Trump term? Do you remember how poorly you coped back in Nov 2016, or did the meds make that whole period a blur? Must have been quite a shock when you came out of the medically induced coma in May 2017 to learn that Trump was prez. Wouldn’t want you to go through that trauma again. All I’m saying is make sure you have all of your supports at the ready, just in case.

  69. Bar Beach Swimmer

    MV,
    no worries.

  70. Herodotus

    The Australian going full climate change and renewables these days with Perry Williams doing for those topics what Cameron Stewart does for US politics, or Savva for the local variety.

  71. Good morning all.
    Terry McCrann at work. In today’s Hun he discusses the possibility of Slomo’s power station plans. First 2 paragraphs are beautiful.

    “The Prime Minister’s ‘commitment’, to a new major gas-fired power station is highly commendable, extremely depressing and utterly laughable at the same time.
    The explanation is in the quotation marks around the word commitment – he’s actually committed to four-fifths of five-eighths of copulating all.”

    Exceptional. He also uses the term “green, red and black tape” which of course is a hat tip to um, sacred sites halting development and construction of infrastructure projects. Liddell closing down soon and nothing in the pipeline to cater for a growing population.

    His last 2 are great also.
    “First stop is a Venezuelan-Cuban future on the way to a full-on North Korean one.
    In that future, we might just as well have a permanent early to bed, early to rise curfew, because we sure as hell won’t – literally – be able to keep the lights on at night.”

  72. feelthebern

    Ha, ha.
    I heard someone the other day referring to #IstandwithDan types as “Branch Danidian sect members”.

    Bwahahaha.
    New keyboard.
    Stat !

  73. Herodotus

    Swims at the bar as well as the beach?

  74. Oh come on

    the following are detention centres are run by DFAT, and most of them are in mothballs – Port Augusta West, South Australia, Curtin Temporary Immigration Reception and Processing Centre, Derby, Western Australia, Port Hedland Immigration Reception and Processing Centre, Port Hedland, Western Australia, Port Hedland Residential Housing Project, Port Hedland, Western Australia, Woomera Immigration Reception and Processing Centre, Woomera West, South Australia, Woomera Residential Housing Project, Woomera, South Australia.

    Better hold onto them. They’ll be needed to deal with the aftermath of a stint of a Labor government.

  75. Makka

    People are being turned away from mental health services – no beds available. Are mental health services understaffed, e.g., due to covid? Or are they fully-functioning and at capacity? Is there a mental health crisis in progress that is overwhelming the system and that no-one seems to want to talk about?

    My bet would be Vic Health has sequestered beds all over Melbourne, “just in case”. Beds empty but not available. Unless there is a serious pressing medical need. Must be seen to be responding to the deadly virus. Obviously old mate with the mental health issue was not deemed severe. What we are being treated to is more arse covering, along the lines of “Oh, our officers have yet to undergo the restraint training for mentally ill people. Sowwy.”

  76. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Herodotus,
    Bar Beach is a beach

  77. MemoryFault

    Are mental health services understaffed,

    Not understaffed, History, nor underfunded.
    Trouble is, all the funding apparently goes to a bunch of dickheads somewhere with graduate degrees in “Communications” or something, who spend all day in lavish offices dreaming up full colour posters about mental health, to be hung up anywhere people are likely to congregate.

    No funds left for actual medical staff.

  78. Herodotus

    Whoever it was the other day that coined #I’llwithstandDan gets credit!

  79. Arky

    that some of the people on their ‘side’ are infantile scatologically inclined buffoons.

    ..
    I resent you saying that like it’s a bad thing.
    I will only concede that a driveway is less funny than, say, leaving one gift wrapped with a bow on it among the ice creams in her $20 000 fridge.
    Or better yet, getting caught, pants down, about to back it out on her office desk, and making that comic startled expression when she walks in the door.

  80. Herodotus

    Pardon my facetiousness bbs.

  81. Arky

    I’m laughing just thinking about it.

  82. Oh come on

    I know they have those in-pool bars in tropical resorts. That sounds kind of nice.

  83. EvilElvis

    My mistake, Beach Swimmer.
    My humble apologies – I didn’t realise you were one of our highly esteemed Lady Cats.

    Get on board, MV. If we have to start putting our preferred pronouns in our nicknames it will ruin this dating site.

  84. Snoopy

    Oh come on
    #3586771, posted on September 16, 2020 at 11:01 am
    I know they have those in-pool bars in tropical resorts. That sounds kind of nice.

    If you get there early in the day.

  85. MemoryFault

    Bar Beach Swimmer

    Now that we have been formally introduced, would you do me the great honour of calling me Peter?
    That is my name, and it is a humble request I have made to all Cats from time to time these past four years, but it’s never seemed to have caught on.

  86. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Herodotus,
    no worries.

  87. Farmer Gez

    Chairman Dan has had great discussions with business and thanks them for their cooperation.

    Coles.
    Woolworths.

    The robber barons are really happy with Dan.

  88. Bar Beach Swimmer

    quite ok, Peter.

  89. johanna

    I’ve recently discovered an internet personality called Zach Rushing. He’s a huge, good ole boy from Mississipi with conservative politics and a wild sense of humour.

    His story about being the only white man at a black cookout has gone viral It is one of the funniest things I have heard in years:

  90. mindfree

    Where the hell is Juliar and Beyond Blue speaking out in support of this citizen

    In London I believe, chairing some global woman’s leadership forum or something like that

  91. EvilElvis

    The problem with the right is that they phoned it in re the culture over the last 50 years. The right as a political movement was completely uninterested in preserving and cultivating the sources, traditions, customs and mores of Western culture through our cultural institutions in any substantive sense.

    You’re right, Dover. Western culture is so broad though it’s no wonder we have no ownership of it. We are an isolated country that has no time behind it and just as it was potentially growing its own culture it was diluted. We feel we come from a Western culture but that culture is owned by Europeans and the English who’ve got thousands of years of intellect and architecture to feed from. We in the new land do not and we’re a long way from that cultural home.

  92. MemoryFault

    Thank you, Beach Swimmer.

  93. Bar Beach Swimmer

    EvilElvis
    #3586772, posted on September 16, 2020 at 11:01 am

    👍

  94. egg_

    First stop is a Venezuelan-Cuban future on the way to a full-on North Korean one.

    All without venturing out on a corona cruise, c/- M0nty’s mates.

  95. Roger

    People are being turned away from mental health services – no beds available. Are mental health services understaffed, e.g., due to covid?

    Even The Age concedes Vic Health is in a parlous state…although the blame is laid at Kennett’s door!

    My guess would be that mental health is one of the more dysfunctional areas.

  96. johanna

    Following on, I’ve been delving into his other stuff, and this one is about cheating in relationships, and the double standard.

    The killer takeaway line – ‘One key that opens a lot of locks is a master key. One lock opens to a lot of keys, that’s a useless damn lock.’

    ROFL.

    He’s not at all mysoginistic, but he does understand that men and women are not the same.

  97. mh

    Paywallian

    Andrews asked to explain China deal
    Victoria’s Premier will be asked to front a ­federal committee over his decision to sign on to China’s Belt and Road Initiative.
    By BEN PACKHAM

  98. Boambee John

    Rex Anger

    mUnted and the Bin Chicken manage to do it and still present a semblance of lucidity…)

    Only under very loose definitions of “semblance” and “lucidity”.

  99. Cohenite:

    That thing that shot the 2 cops has to be a kid:

    Watch the gait as it runs away – my bet is it’s a (don’t laugh) dwarf.
    Prolly Grumpy.

  100. Infidel Tiger King

    Melbourne quarantine guards refused to use hand sanitiser because it contained alcohol.

    OTOH they didn’t mind porking the infected guests.

  101. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #3586681, posted on September 16, 2020 at 10:02 am
    I see Trump has started RTing stuff about Biden being a rock spider. I wonder how long it will be before Kates links to 8chan in an OP. The whole US right is going to go full Bird before November.

    Rex Anger.

    This is what I meant by very loose definitions of “semblance” and “lucidity”.

  102. Cassie of Sydney

    “dover_beach
    #3586742, posted on September 16, 2020 at 10:49 am”

    Agree DB. I would also argue that Thatcher and Reagan ignored the culture and focused too heavily on the economics. Despite their successes…they undoubtedly contributed to the rise of globalism. John Howard did the same here…..he never touched their ABC….he didn’t dismantle Section 18C even when, from 2004 through to 2007, he had control of the senate and had every opportunity to do so. We like to get stuck in Tony Abbott here about his failure to do anything about Section 18C but remember…he had a awful senate to deal with after his election in 2013.

  103. Geriatric Mayfly

    Melbourne quarantine guards refused to use hand sanitiser because it contained alcohol.

    ‘Do you see a clue here? It’s elementary my dear Watson.’

  104. Boambee John

    notafan
    #3586725, posted on September 16, 2020 at 10:34 am
    And they didn’t ram his car, they rammed his body.

    But they wouldn’t touch Garglearse or his car until he had killed and injured people!

  105. MemoryFault

    ‘Do you see a clue here?

    Pentecostals?

  106. Cassie of Sydney

    “‘Do you see a clue here? It’s elementary my dear Watson.’”

    Yep…it ain’t rocket science.

  107. stackja

    People in leadership on the right of politics keep overestimating the intelligence of the general population. How could anyone still believe in socialism? Simply having a economy that provides for all is not enough?

  108. Makka

    Melbourne quarantine guards refused to use hand sanitiser because it contained alcohol.

    Then went home to spread the plague around at Friday prayers.

  109. Boambee John

    Dover

    Indeed, we continued to fund these institutions even as they developed a pathologically critical attitude to Western culture.

    Indeed, Howard’s funding of the National Museum of Australia and the subsequent controversy over the designer’s attempt to put “Sorry” in Braille on the building being a particularly gross example.

  110. johanna

    Agree with those above about the Right being slow and stupid about the culture wars. The great Andrew Breitbart (RIP) coined the phrase that politics is downstream from culture.

    Time and time again, allegedly conservative politicians and businesspeople have rolled over and made concessions to the insatiables on the Left. They have thrown people off the sled to the following wolves. They have embraced radical chic to stay ‘in’ with the ‘in’ crowd.

    The allegedly conservative government in the UK, elected with a thumping majority, is led by a pussy-whipped weathervane. The little shit wouldn’t even defend Churchill when his statue was vandalised.

    The GOP in the US is no better, and if any other of the 2016 candidates had won, he would be backpedaling on every principle at light speed in real time.

    One problem is that a lot of committed conservatives expect politicians to perfectly align with every aspect of their own beliefs, or be discarded as unworthy. As Dr Phil would say – how’s that working for ya? The Left have no such scruples. No matter how appalling the personal or professional behaviour of one of their own, they back them to the hilt. And it’s certainly worked for them.

    I didn’t realise how every Coalition politician and the IPA abandoned Bettina Arndt (h/t Cassie) until I read it here. What a disgrace.

    Until the Right realises that this is a war, not just a series of scuffles after closing time, nothing will change.

  111. mh

    Nice, Dan

    In its hearings last Thursday, the Victorian hotel quarantine inquiry was told how two security guards, who were untrained subcontractors, were caught having sex while working at Melbourne’s Swanston Street Rydges Hotel, while others were hassling nurses for their mobile numbers so they could “hook up”; others were caught urinating on bathroom floors, and others still were caught stealing food out of residents’ bags.

    At the same time, three young children in quarantine became so distressed by their incarceration that they started smearing the hotel room walls with their own excrement.

    Their mother was hysterical and while the private security guards were busy putting the moves on nurses, one nurse managed to dodge their advances long enough to enter that infernal room and hoover up the shit with a vacuum cleaner.

  112. Makka

    Yep…it ain’t rocket science.

    Immigration and multiculturalism rewards blowing back on Victoriastan. The problem is, too many Victorians either are to dumb or because leftism refuse to join the glaring dots.

  113. MemoryFault

    People in leadership on the right of politics keep overestimating the intelligence of the general population.

    How would we possibly know that?
    It’s not as if we have anybody “on the right of politics” in a leadership position now.
    And we haven’t had anybody like that for quite some time.
    Mostly because the possibility of it occurring has been eliminated from our federal political system.

  114. Cassie of Sydney

    “Indeed, we continued to fund these institutions even as they developed a pathologically critical attitude to Western culture.”

    Yep..and stupid effing Howard set up and funded the “Useless Studies Centre” or as Mark Latham so perfectly describes it….the “US Confusion Centre”….100% staffed by progressive Trump haters.

  115. zyconoclast

    Prominent Southern Baptists are dropping ‘Southern’ name amid racial unrest

    Leaders in the Southern Baptist Convention are increasingly dropping the “Southern” part of their Baptist name, calling it a potentially painful reminder of the convention’s historic role in support of slavery.

    The 50,000 Baptist churches in the convention are autonomous and can still choose to refer to themselves as “Southern Baptist” or “SBC.” But in his first interview on the topic, convention president J.D. Greear said momentum has been building to adopt the name “Great Commission Baptists,” both because of the racial reckoning underway in the United States and because many have long seen the “Southern Baptist” name as too regional for a global group of believers.

    “Our Lord Jesus was not a White Southerner but a brown-skinned Middle Eastern refugee,” said Greear, who this summer used the phrase “Black lives matter” in a presidential address and announced that he would retire a historic gavel named for an enslaver. “Every week we gather to worship a savior who died for the whole world, not one part of it. What we call ourselves should make that clear.”

  116. Boambee John

    johanna
    #3586781, posted on September 16, 2020 at 11:07 am
    I’ve recently discovered an internet personality called Zach Rushing. He’s a huge, good ole boy from Mississipi with conservative politics and a wild sense of humour.

    His story about being the only white man at a black cookout has gone viral It is one of the funniest things I have heard in years:

    Reminds me of being one of only two non-Italians at a BBQ given by Italian neighbours and their relatives many years ago.

    Those blokes knew some great Italian jokes!

  117. zyconoclast

    OTOH they didn’t mind porking the infected guests.

    That would be goating>

  118. Cassie of Sydney

    “Then went home to spread the plague around at Friday prayers.”

    That’s right…and celebrated Ramadandingdong festivities which were completely ignored by Dan’s goons….but Christians and Jews aren’t allowed to celebrate their important holidays. Miranda Devine has a good piece in today’s Telegraph about the utter hypocrisy by the NSW government who allowed a 400 people gathering at Auburn mosque but won’t allow St Mary’s Cathedral to increase their numbers or any synagogue for that matter..by the way it is Jooooish New Year this weekend….what a joke.

  119. Cassie of Sydney

    “Then went home to spread the plague around at Friday prayers.”

    That’s right…and celebrated Ramadandingdong festivities which were completely ignored by Dan’s goons….but Christians and Joooss aren’t allowed to celebrate their important holidays. Miranda Devine has a good piece in today’s Telegraph about the utter hypocrisy by the NSW government who allowed a 400 people gathering at Auburn mosque but won’t allow St Mary’s Cathedral to increase their numbers or any synagogue for that matter..by the way it is Jooooish New Year this weekend….what a joke.

  120. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’m amused that a certain person has been left out of Harry’s birthday snaps released by the Palace.
    She’s royally on the nose.

  121. egg_

    My first black cookout

    A 5 lb piece of cherry pie?
    Is that how those “Oprah ladies” get so big?

  122. stackja

    Zycon – Baptist is not the whole world. Christian would be better.

  123. Rex Anger

    m0nty
    #3586681, posted on September 16, 2020 at 10:02 am
    I see Trump has started RTing stuff about Biden being a rock spider. I wonder how long it will be before Kates links to 8chan in an OP. The whole US right is going to go full Bird before November.

    Rex Anger.

    This is what I meant by very loose definitions of “semblance” and “lucidity”.

    Errgh. Seen and understood. I can’t even use the word ‘coherent’ in good faith..m

  124. mh

    DEPUTY PREMIER BLASTS ‘DANGEROUS’ DEB OVER FUNERAL PLAN
    Deputy Premier Steven Miles has blasted Opposition Leader Deb Frecklington over “dangerous” and poorly timed funeral plans declaring she should “have a look at herself” while labelling her a “puppet” for Prime Minister Scott Morrison.

    But it’s ok for 80 at an Aboriginal funeral, Steven.

  125. MemoryFault

    Time to do some work.
    Have fun, everybody.

  126. notafan

    BBS I know, I was just trying to speak proper.

  127. Bruce of Newcastle

    Until the Right realises that this is a war, not just a series of scuffles after closing time, nothing will change.

    Joanna – The problem is it has to be a war. The Christians on the Right will not fight until it is morally feasible to do so. In the US if the Left starts a war it will be manna to the ears of the Christian firearm-owning Right, who if inducted into a lawful militia will shoot the shit out of Antifa. It would be brutal. But got to be legal or it won’t happen.

    The Civil War was a situation where Christians could fight, and they did. Millions of them, all volunteers.

    The Left knows this quite well, so they have worked very carefully to avoid this situation occurring. For example you don’t see riots in American cities with Republican governments. That’s because militia in their thousands would flock to a government call up and declaration of insurrection. The riots would be remarkably brief, as would the remaining lifespans of the rioters.

  128. Infidel Tiger King

    Trump getting curb stomped at a “town hall” with supposedly undecided voters hosted by Clinton apparatchik Stephanopoulos.

    Why does he agree to this shit?

  129. Arky

    Why does he agree to this shit?

    ..
    Training himself up for the big one.
    Great strategy.
    When are you going to learn to trust the Big Orange?
    You miserable little creature of little faith.

  130. Oh come on

    The problem with the right is that they phoned it in re the culture over the last 50 years.

    You’re absolutely correct, Dover. I think the other great mistake that the mainstream right made was to unconditionally surrender to the progressives regarding social values. It became accepted wisdom that a conservative politician with national ambitions couldn’t touch abortion, SSM and so forth. Doing so was thought to be electoral kryptonite. I think we saw this most strikingly in the 2012 general election, when Romney’s campaign was as inoffensive to social progressives as could possibly be imagined, and Obama’s team had to fall upon the utterances of two relatively obscure GOP lawmakers to claim that a President Romney would change the law so that women who sought abortions would be charged with murder, that he would subject homosexuals to compulsory gay conversion therapy, stop teaching evolution in schools, ban extramarital sex and all of the usual crap they come out with. It worked, too.

    One of the primary arguments the right made for total radio silence over conservative social values was that kids these days were secular and they thought religion was so passe, so they completely alienated by even the faintest hint of religiosity. They would also be hostile towards anyone who threatened to take away abortion and the rights of gays to marry and all of that stuff. If a politician was seen to be willing to do anything remotely like the above, they would be unelectable now and unelectable in the future.

    The mainstream right was dead wrong about all of this (and I admit I also believed it to be true at the time). Firstly, it was something of a self-fulfilling prophesy that socially conservative values would be a ‘third rail’ of politics, and of course the progressives fell over themselves to bring this about. If your opponent has told you he’s going to kick an own-goal, why wouldn’t you pass the ball to him?

    Also, if you look at who is taking part in the grassroots backlash against Conservative Inc and its milquetoast values, you will see a lot of young people. The youth are proving to be very receptive to alternatives to the progressive social agenda that they were raised on. Many of these alternatives consist of socially conservative values, but also darker traits such as anti-S3m1t1sm. It’s a great pity that the mainstream right had no coherent world view to offer these people other than driving the progressive social agenda at the speed limit.

  131. Infidel Tiger King

    Training himself up for the big one.
    Great strategy.

    He’s been made to look like a fool.

    A complete setup he has walked in to.

  132. Arky

    He’s been made to look like a fool.

    A complete setup he has walked in to.

    ..
    He needs to know what they will run at him in the debates and how to respond.
    He is right to do a series of things with hostiles going in to it.

  133. mh

    Does the townhall audience look and sound radical?

    If so, that’s great for Trump.

  134. The only way Trump wins from here is if he cheats. Recent events in Wisconsin and North Carolina show he is cheating at high levels. He is not being at all subtle about it.

  135. Arky

    The only way Trump wins from here is if he cheats.

    ..
    You really are a dribbling cretin.

  136. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From EvilElvis at 9:54 am:

    Until the right begin to fight the culture wars…nothing … and I mean nothing will change. [from Cassie at 08:27 am]

    … ‘culture wars’ … It may mean something when you come from a country with lineage going back thousands of years or where the country has had to fight for itself to establish a nation but we are neither. We are young and the waters of whatever fanciful Australian culture we think we have has been steadily getting diluted for decades. We quite simply need to get back to basics and common sense, work hard and live within our means. Prosperity will lead to culture. You can’t import it or make it up. …”

    This reminds me of Lee Kuan Yew’s comments in the mid ’90s prefacing his warning that Australia was lining up to become “the white trash of Asia”.

    Australia was too clever and a lot wiser than Mr Lee back then, and paid no attention.

  137. MatrixTransform

    I didn’t realise you were one of our highly esteemed Lady Cats.

    did the simpering creepy old crank assume somebody’s gender?

  138. Diogenes

    . In the US if the Left starts a war it will be manna to the ears of the Christian firearm-owning Right, who if inducted into a lawful militia will shoot the shit out of Antifa. It would be brutal. But got to be legal or it won’t happen.

    BON
    They already are
    10 U.S. Code § 246 – Militia: composition and classes

    (a)The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
    (b)The classes of the militia are—
    (1)the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
    (2)the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

    and the title referenced refers to enlistment in the National Guard …
    32 U.S. Code § 313.Appointments and enlistments: age limitations

    (a)To be eligible for original enlistment in the National Guard, a person must be at least 17 years of age and under 45, or under 64 years of age and a former member of the Regular Army, Regular Navy, Regular Air Force, or Regular Marine Corps. To be eligible for reenlistment, a person must be under 64 years of age.
    (b)To be eligible for appointment as an officer of the National Guard, a person must—
    (1)be a citizen of the United States; and
    (2)be at least 18 years of age and under 64.

  139. Cassie of Sydney

    “Oh come on
    #3586837, posted on September 16, 2020 at 11:56 am”

    Agree wholeheartedly.

  140. Bruce of Newcastle

    Infi – He’s trying to get Biden out into the open where the MSM journos can’t protect him so adeptly. And get Kamala out into the open too. Part of that requires him to be willing to engage so that his campaign can force Biden to ante up. Dunno if it will work, but getting Biden into an uncontrolled televised setting would be eye opening for MSM-watching voters.

  141. Makka

    mUnty, no one here besides you and numbskull cares how Trump gets in. As long as he gets in.

    I hope he cheats like buggery, whatever it takes, to keep the WH away from vermin leftards like you. In fact I would be completely disgusted with him if he doesn’t cheat.

  142. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Cassie,

    We like to get stuck in Tony Abbott here about his failure to do anything about Section 18C but remember…he had a awful senate to deal with after his election in 2013.

    Also, he had all those Turnbull lovers & Turnbull himself in the cabinet, which made being able to lead on anything right-of-centre, almost insurmountable: you can’t lead when almost everyone standing behind you is engaged in taking you out.

  143. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Arky at 12:03 pm:

    ” The only way Trump wins from here is if he cheats.

    ..
    You really are a dribbling cretin.

    Now THAT cracked me up, fabulous! (and accurate).😂

  144. Cassie of Sydney

    “A complete setup he has walked in to.”

    Trump knows exactly what he is doing.

  145. Oh come on

    Don’t forget that whatever a leftist accuses you of, you can be certain he himself is doing it.

  146. I hope he cheats like buggery, whatever it takes, to keep the WH away from vermin leftards like you. In fact I would be completely disgusted with him if he doesn’t cheat.

    Good on ya Makka, at least you are not being a hypocrite about being a fascist.

  147. Bruce of Newcastle

    The only way Trump Biden wins from here is if he cheats. Recent events in Wisconsin and North Carolina show he is cheating at high levels. He is not being at all subtle about it.

    Just fixing your typo M0nty. You should be more careful checking.

  148. Infidel Tiger King

    Recent events in Wisconsin and North Carolina show he is cheating at high levels. He is not being at all subtle about it.

    The riots?

  149. Bar Beach Swimmer

    notafan
    #3586832, posted on September 16, 2020 at 11:52 am

    the comment went over my head – so thank you.

  150. Cassie of Sydney

    “Bar Beach Swimmer
    #3586852, posted on September 16, 2020 at 12:07 pm”

    Agree entirely BBS….for those two years after he won in 2013 to the September coup he was being stalked by Turnbull who thought he could rise to the top on the back of Abbott’s hard work.

  151. Makka

    Good on ya Makka, at least you are not being a hypocrite about being a fascist.

    mUnty, when it comes to denying you Marxist loving leftards any advantage, I’m a fascist through and through. I’d have you all locked up for crimes against humanity if I had my way.

  152. Infidel Tiger King

    .

    @GStephanopoulos
    : “Our next question comes from Diane, she’s the president of the Delaware Valley Young Socialists Club and is an undecided voter…”

    This Town Hall should have been on Fox or OANN. Not some left wing propaganda outfit.

  153. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Philby at 10:29 am:

    “Mick your abusive … blah, blah, blah … “

    as you ignore the point I am attempting to highlight. Using paragraphs would have been helpful.

    “based on flimsy comments issued by police is disgraceful”

    I wouldn’t know what the “police comments” were. I relied on Melbourne newspaper reports (which also stated his “car” was rammed, Notafan, his “car”). If you don’t like media reports as a source don’t tell me, write a letter to the editors.

    Short of finding one of those “Press” cards to stick in me hat band, as they showed in the olden days comic strips, and personally attending media briefings, that is one of the few sources available to ordinary people. You wouldn’t rely on pointless blog outrage, would you? 😁

  154. Arky

    This Town Hall should have been on Fox or OANN. Not some left wing propaganda outfit

    ..
    Small audience of people who are never going to vote for him.
    Exactly where he should be rehearsing for the big one.

  155. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #3586844, posted on September 16, 2020 at 12:02 pm
    The only way Trump wins from here is if he cheats. Recent events in Wisconsin and North Carolina show he is cheating at high levels. He is not being at all subtle about it.

    Speaking of cheating, which of Mueller’s “investigators” do you think will be the first to make a plea deal and turn state’s evidence when accused of obstruction of justice for cleaning all data from his official phone when ordered to hand it to the Inspector General?

    Tick, tick, tick, …

    PS, do you have any actual evidence for your allegations, or is it just the ever unreliable “chatter on lefty blogs”?

  156. dover_beach

    You’re right, Dover. Western culture is so broad though it’s no wonder we have no ownership of it.

    We don’t own it but we are part-custodians of it, so, to that extent, at least here in our land, we are entrusted with its care and cultivation. As to it being so or too broad, I don’t think so. Western culture is effectively Christian culture, but it makes itself available to the sources, mores, etc. of the classical world both as valuable in and of themselves, and to the extent that they can enrich Christian culture where they themselves echo the true, the good, and the beautiful. In fact, Christian culture is open to any culture that can aid in this undertaking, not only classical culture. Think of Tolkein and old Norse poetry.

  157. dover_beach

    The only way Trump wins from here is if he cheats. Recent events in Wisconsin and North Carolina show he is cheating at high levels. He is not being at all subtle about it.

    wtf is monty talking about?

  158. Boambee John

    Good on ya Makka, at least you are not being a hypocrite about being a fascist.

    Says the hypocritical fascist leftist who never saw a Demorat cheating tactic that concerned him.

  159. Cassie of Sydney

    “The only way Trump wins from here is if he cheats. Recent events in Wisconsin and North Carolina show he is cheating at high levels. He is not being at all subtle about it.”

    Methinks fat boy has overdosed on the donuts!

  160. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Cassie of Sydney at 12:07 pm:

    ” “A complete setup he has walked in to.”

    Trump knows exactly what he is doing.

    I knew little about him five years ago, I came to that conclusion at the outset and have not had cause to doubt it since. He is a clever man, the Americans are fortunate to have him and half of them do not appreciate that.

    If I were Donald Trump I would leave them to it, buy the Isle of Man or something, sit back and enjoy life with the family.

  161. duncanm

    Next round of visitation to the shrine in Melbourne, people need to takes some kites or helium balloons on long string.

    Just for the kids, mind you. Would be a pity if they got tangled up with the Dandrones.

  162. Arky

    wtf is monty talking about?

    ..
    Monty had a dream.
    A dream with homicidal clowns.
    And it was the first day of school.
    And he called the teacher “Mummy”.
    And the teacher called on him to stand up.
    And he was in his pyjamas. Without the bottom half.
    And he was falling, and falling and falling, endlessly falling.
    And Trump was president forever, and ever and ever…

  163. johanna

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3586833, posted on September 16, 2020 at 11:52 am

    Until the Right realises that this is a war, not just a series of scuffles after closing time, nothing will change.

    Joanna – The problem is it has to be a war. The Christians on the Right will not fight until it is morally feasible to do so. In the US if the Left starts a war it will be manna to the ears of the Christian firearm-owning Right, who if inducted into a lawful militia will shoot the shit out of Antifa. It would be brutal. But got to be legal or it won’t happen.

    One of my man Zach Rushworth’s posts is about why the USA will never be invaded. Add together a couple of States, and you have numbers larger than any standing army on Earth (including the US) who are armed and ready. Add together all of the States – they could take over the planet. In a day.

    Antifa have used the civil liberties provisions in the US for their own ends. But, as someone above noted, they are selective about where they do it. Interestingly, they are a complete fizzer in Detroit, where they tried it on and the black police chief shut them down and arrested their asses, from Day 1. Detroit is a majority black city, and the people there are trying to rebuild it after the ravages of corrupt Democrats and economic change. Last I heard, nobody of any importance is criticising the black police chief for telling these eejits to skedaddle, or else.

    As anyone who has been there and travelled around knows, the US is a vast and varied patchwork quilt.

  164. duncanm

    Mick Gold Coast QLD
    #3586864, posted on September 16, 2020 at 12:12 pm

    I wouldn’t know what the “police comments” were. I relied on Melbourne newspaper reports (which also stated his “car” was rammed, Notafan, his “car”).

    yeh.. definitely his car. If that’s what you call an arse these days.

  165. Makka

    B John,
    mUnty did see Killary cheat her way to the Dem nomination last go round. He just chooses to look away. Kind of like how numbers didn’t see the 100 million or so deaths last century caused by the all caring Socialists he admires so much. It’s all made up.

  166. dover_beach

    Hey monty, tells about Trump’s shenanigans with those USPS post boxes again.

  167. vlad

    Bill Gates Senior has died at age 94.

    So Bill Gates Junior may well be around for a while yet.

  168. Cassie of Sydney

    “If I were Donald Trump I would leave them to it, buy the Isle of Man or something, sit back and enjoy life with the family.”

    President Trump said as much last month at a white house press conference. When questioned by some moronic (probably CNN) airhead, he said quite plainly that he didn’t need to run for president and that he had a really good life beforehand. Trump stepped up because he could see the USA going down the drain….particularly after eight years of Bush followed by eight years of Obama…all aided and abetted by useless RINO’s.

  169. egg_

    Bar Beach is a beach

    Been in a Bar Beach queue… for ice cream!

  170. notafan

    If you’ve been in Melbourne lately you might notice that new recruits are short, male and very short, female.

    Useless.

  171. mh

    Trump loves deal making.

    The US presidency is perfect for him.

  172. Leigh Lowe

    MemoryFault

    #3586741, posted on September 16, 2020 at 10:49 am

    My mistake, Beach Swimmer.
    My humble apologies – I didn’t realise you were one of our highly esteemed Lady Cats.

    Bwah ha ha ha.
    From the one who claims to have great insights into the female psyche.
    “The eyes are the window to the soul. Not many men have that understanding.”

  173. Cassie of Sydney

    Further to the culture wars….has there been any follow up to the outrageous decision to withhold mail sent by PHON? Was the mail delivered? This is electoral interference and the person who decided this should be prosecuted. If this goes unchallenged, how long before I fail to receive my copies of the Speccie and Quadrant in the mail….because some person at Australia Post decides they won’t deliver this mail because they deem such magazines to be far-right, hard-right, waacist, xenophobic, homophobic, nazi propoganda?

  174. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From johanna at 12:24 pm:

    “…
    As anyone who has been there and traveled around knows, the US is a vast and varied patchwork quilt.”

    Now that is as good a description as I have seen Johanna!

    My company’s head office was in Dallas-Fort Worth – my first visit took me there and to New York and to San Francisco. I came away with two distinct impressions:

    – so many of the men were way too fat too young; and

    – the USA is a collection of different countries.

  175. feelthebern

    Wayne Smith in the Oz writes today that the Wallabies can beat the All Blacks in NZ.
    How is that crank allowed near a keyboard?

  176. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    In fact, Christian culture is open to any culture that can aid in this undertaking, not only classical culture. Think of Tolkein and old Norse poetry.

    Yes.

  177. johanna

    I was at the Queanbeyan Police Station some months ago to give a statement about a nearby shooting I had heard.

    While I was in the waiting room, a troupe of uniforms came in, about five of them. They were giggling and chatting. The girls were short and pudgy, and the blokes were slightly taller losers who would never score in a singles bar. All of them were wearing belts like something from a bad sci fi movie. How you could run fast or tackle anybody while wearing a tradie’s toolbelt plus is a mystery.

    Struck me as a dating club.

  178. Recent events in Wisconsin and North Carolina show he is cheating at high levels. He is not being at all subtle about it.

    Referring to this.
    That’s when they’re not gerrymandering, which is subtle but consistent.

  179. Some History

    Did someone say DONUTS?
    https://imgur.com/nKW9ypc

    WHAT!! That image attracted a

    “This post may contain erotic or adult imagery.
    By continuing, you acknowledge that you are 18+ years of age”

    by imgur

  180. woolfe

    Next round of visitation to the shrine in Melbourne, people need to takes some kites or helium balloons on long string.

    And umbrellas, in case it rains.

  181. rickw

    Gab,

    Hunt for B350 continues. Several channels have come up zip so far, including ATC.

  182. Leigh Lowe

    Mick Gold Coast QLD
    #3586864, posted on September 16, 2020 at 12:12 pm

    I wouldn’t know what the “police comments” were. I relied on Melbourne newspaper reports (which also stated his “car” was rammed, Notafan, his “car”).

    Mick, that bullshit came straight out of Police Meeja on Sunday night.
    They put out a release saying he was “detained after damaging a Police car” (by backing into it with his arse at 10 kmh).
    Next thing the story moves to him smashing doors at the hospital. No pictures. And the doors are replaced within 24 hours, complete with decals and signage.
    Next thing it is “oh, we haven’t had our mental ‘elf training” … (because stomping a sane person would be OK?).
    The icing on the cake came this morning… “they were heading back to the station to recharge their tasers because they had just fired them at another mental health patient”.
    Think about that. Two of them both fired their lasers at one person.
    Sorry. What we got here is a pair of trigger-happy ferals

    Stomper and car driver should be gone.
    Along with anyone who claimed to have a first hand account of “car damage” and “door vandalism”.

  183. Bruce of Newcastle

    Referring to this.

    April is recent? Haha. I’ve already linked at various times half a dozen Democrat frauds and voting scams just from last month. And no I’m not going to go read an article at the NYT. Find a different link Numbers. Not the Grauniad either.

  184. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    the USA is a collection of different countries.

    Not quite. It can seem that way, and Louisiana is definitely not New England, but the very self-conscious patriotism is fairly pervasive. Even in the Democrat-held states.
    A visit to Arlington National Cemetery is fairly instructive on this patriotism.
    Watch the changing of the guard at the eternal flame and your hand will go on your heart too, along with all the others watching this very serious event, including the regular barrages of visiting schoolchildren and tourists from all states.

    You have to book months ahead to get into Thomas Jefferson’s home and many of the other sacred sites too. There is a National culture. The Civil War is over and not forgotten but the South is in the Union. And the flyover states are the heartland. The others, and there are many, are a fine patchwork onto these bigger pieces, but the gestalt of the US has not disappeared.

    I like to think the same can be said for Australia, that our Covid challenges are only testing us.

  185. rickw

    inVik, the PROPER way to get admitted to a hospital is of course to get the Polis to assist

    Can you check me in for a mental health issue?

    No.

    What about a concussion or gunshot wound?

    Yes.

    Back in 5!

  186. duncanm

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3586897, posted on September 16, 2020 at 12:36 pm
    Further to the culture wars….has there been any follow up to the outrageous decision to withhold mail sent by PHON? Was the mail delivered? This is electoral interference and the person who decided this should be prosecuted. If this goes unchallenged, how long before I fail to receive my copies of the Speccie and Quadrant in the mail….because some person at Australia Post decides they won’t deliver this mail because they deem such magazines to be far-right, hard-right, waacist, xenophobic, homophobic, nazi propoganda?

    Cassie – I believe the problem was with the local council, not Aus Post.

    The Aus Post CEO went ballistic over it – quite rightly.

  187. Twostix

    As we see here, the m0nty left have mentally prepared to not accept the outcome of the election when they lose.

    Which means the democrats and their handlers refuse to concede and plunge the US into civil war.

    The summer riots have been mobilisation, preparation and training for that moment.

  188. Dr Faustus

    Queensland ‘considering halving 28-day virus rule’ to allow NSW residents in, as police make fresh arrests at border

    Well, not exactly Queensland doing the considering:

    But Queensland Chief Health Officer Dr Jeannette Young, who is responsible for the state’s hardline approach, said yesterday that no decision had been made.

    Dropping the 28-day rule to 14 would need to be agreed to by Chief Health Officers from all states and territories.

    So not just our very own Dr Young, we are controlled by the science of a coven of CMO’s.
    Where the fucking fuck did that come from?

  189. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Married soldier’s wife breaks down in court as he’s found guilty of trying to persuade a nurse to ‘help’ him provide sperm samples

    Captain William Howieson was stationed at Port Moresby in Papua New Guinea
    He gave a doctor’s note to a PNG army nurse saying he needed sperm samples
    The nurse said she refused the 29-year-old’s apparent attempt to touch his penis
    Captain Howieson’s wife Bronte Millman, a Townsville vet, cried in court

    Daily Wail.

    Who was it, last night, sneering at a 26 year old R.A.A.F. ie for trying to lure a fifty something lady to his room for some jiggery pokery?

  190. Arky

    Check yer email, Elizabeth.

  191. Rex Anger

    The only way Trump wins from here is if he cheats. Recent events in Wisconsin and North Carolina show he is cheating at high levels. He is not being at all subtle about it.

    This mUntage is brought to you today by Saul Alinksy- Give me bck my book you thieving, unworthy little bourgeois shit!

    And the 44th President of the United States of America- Yeah! You didn’t build that! Hope and change, sucka!

    Find them, and a scintillating lack of coherent conversatuin (Come on, man!) in your University bookshop today!

    Today’s Special Deal: Free Corn Pop with every Riot purchased…

  192. Peter Greagg

    Hey guys (in a non sexist manner), I have been off the reservation fo or so and I was wondering what I had missed? If anything important.
    And, yes, I am largely a lurker but am still interested.
    Eg, any news on the foreshadowed financial meltdown, or the expensive websites, etc?

  193. incoherent rambler

    Stomper and car driver should be gone.

    Summarily.
    Nothing beats the sound of the swish of the Guillotine in the morning.

  194. Twostix

    Weird how we used to call m0nty a fascist and now he actually is one.

  195. Speedbox

    calli
    #3586552, posted on September 16, 2020 at 7:32 am
    Could one of the reasons why a sizeable cohort of the population is comfortable with Covid policy is because they haven’t suffered?

    Yep. For many millions of our population, COVID has been not much more than an inconvenience due to the relatively modest restrictions (Victoria excluded). Schools/day care closed for a few weeks and shopping was closed/restricted but for a large number of the population, life continued on without huge suffering. Especially for those living in the cities. They didn’t have the frustration of the border communities and separately, a sizable bunch received JobKeeper and some casual workers were actually better off financially!

    Although unemployment is historically high, there are still some 12 million working and I would suggest the several millions of them have actually, if secretly, enjoyed their ‘work from home’ as a de facto ‘holiday’ with (unofficially) shorter hours and a monday to friday freedom not previously experienced.

    Excluding Victoria’s current situation, for many living in every other State/Territory, the initial response to COVID that had a direct impact of the individual, is now a past memory. It was a disruption, not a catastrophe.

    Don’t get me wrong – I have previously set out my opposition to many of the reactions by our Federal Government and I am appalled by Palacechook’s politicizing of the border closure up here. I believe that tens of thousands of businesses nationally will never re-open. I agree that hundreds of thousands will take 1-2 years to get another job (and some may never) and that the ongoing economic vandalism will take a generation to repair.

    But, I think the truth is that many millions have not been deeply impacted and although they may instinctively know that things are bad, they don’t think (care?) about the economy as their payslip is regular and they see economic repair as a Government problem. I am convinced that many ‘just don’t get it’ and this may be supported by the polls that strongly suggest that many in the population agree with the actions of the various Governments. It may seem inconceivable to those of us on the Cat, but we all know the average punter is fed a diet from the MSM and are generally apathetic.

    Those same millions will sit at home tonight watching Channel Nein comfortable in the knowledge that next week’s pay will arrive on schedule, and reminisce on how tough things were on them when in fact, their life was only briefly impacted.

  196. Did Andrews have a presser today? Haven’t heard anything about it hitherto

  197. Makka

    More plodding bloviations from Mick above. Shorter Mick; Please stop denigrating my cop mates. If only idiot commenters here could realise just how courageous they are, doing their thankless job of beating up mental patients, brutalising pregnant women, choking small females, kneeling to BLM and bullying grannies. It’s dangerous out there!

  198. johanna

    Lizzie, the USA is not about your travelogue reminiscences. I know this is how you see the world, via your attempts to draw attention to yourself, but it is boring and irrelevant.

    BTW, is the book you’ve been touting here for a decade finished yet?

    And before you and your fan club start, losing a close relative does not confer an immunity screen. I would bet my house that others here have lost someone close and not posted here about it. They don’t need endless affirmation and praise like you do.

    BTW, I am about to lose someone in the first circle of relatives, and that is the last you all will hear of the process. Like almost everyone here, I don’t need to post a slushy, sentimental load of crap to gain synpathy and attention.

    It is like the outpouring of ‘grief’ about Princess Diana. Completely fake.

    Why would you pretend to care about the death of someone you have never met, or the grief of someone you have never met?

    This is the mentality that led to the George Floyd protests.

  199. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Did Andrews have a presser today? Haven’t heard anything about it hitherto

    Seems he’s not answering questions, after getting his knickers in a twist over whether he was offered A.D.F. support or not.

  200. Leigh Lowe

    Black Ball

    #3586928, posted on September 16, 2020 at 1:04 pm

    Did Andrews have a presser today? Haven’t heard anything about it hitherto

    Yep.
    The Great Bingo Caller got the numbers wrong.
    Called a 14 day average of 54 cases.
    DHHS reckon it is 49.
    Now comes the dawning realisation.
    The numbers are met, but we are sticking to the dates (next one 28th September).

  201. Cassie of Sydney

    “Cassie – I believe the problem was with the local council, not Aus Post.

    The Aus Post CEO went ballistic over it – quite rightly.”

    Thanks Duncanm. That person/persons in the local council must be prosecuted….if not we will see more of this.

  202. Dr Faustus

    In All Care No Responsibility news:

    Brett Sutton had no ‘oversight’ of coronavirus infection control in Victorian hotel quarantine program, inquiry told

    Professor Sutton told today’s hearing his public health team provided advice and directions on personal protective equipment (PPE) and cleaning policies for the hotels.

    But he said once the advice was provided to the massive bureaucratic taskforce, which he referred to as a “large beast”, his team was unaware about whether the directions were actually being followed.

    I directed them – if they ignored my directions, well, I’m sorry, that’s not my concern. I have the science to worry about.

    Back, back, backing away.

  203. I was referring to Trumpkins helping the Greens trying to blow up the elections in Wisconsin, plus Trump’s repeated calls for his supporters in NC to commit vote fraud by voting twice.

    He knows he would get his bum kicked in a fair election. The only hope is for him to nobble the democratic process.

  204. feelthebern

    AFR has an in depth piece up today saying Dan Andrews cherry picked the modelling & the modellers.
    Let’s see:
    1) If they are forced to make corrections/changes;
    2) If this makes the paper tomorrow.

    The AFR does this thing when they’re happy to send a story to the forgettory.
    When you’re reading via the app, it’s not uncommon to see a blank space where they have simply deleted a story & not replaced it with anything.
    Obviously, it would still exist in the hard copy.

  205. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #3586940, posted on September 16, 2020 at 1:16 pm

    AFR has an in depth piece up today saying Dan Andrews cherry picked the modelling & the modellers.

    The modellers themselves said virtually the same thing a week ago in the Oz.

  206. C.L.

    He’s been made to look like a fool.

    A complete setup he has walked in to.

    I think the Trumpet and his staff would have known very well what he was walking into. They obviously think Donald-bashing is now so ridiculously excessive that it engenders in undecided viewers animosity against both the media and its bus-ed in trolls.

  207. William the Conjuror

    Two of them both

    Rex Mossop still lives.

  208. feelthebern

    Biden is doing the exact same event next week.

  209. Cassie of Sydney

    And so she starts…clearly she just can’t help being nasty. Pity she didn’t try scrolling…after all this is the same person who, last Friday, screeched at those of us here who argue with Numbers and screeched about how we should ignore him. Pity she didn’t follow her own advice when it comes to Lizzie. If she is so bothered by Lizzie…why doesn’t she just scroll rather than post a nasty comment? And no, Lizzie doesn’t have a “fan club”…..Lizzie has friends…perhaps that’s what she’s jealous of.

  210. Leigh Lowe

    Bern.
    Here is the Oz article.

    Professors’ message for Daniel Andrews: redo the coronavirus modelling

    University of Melbourne dean of health Shitij Kapur says a coronavirus model is only a guide for decision-makers.

    EXCLUSIVE

    SIMON BENSON

    11:12AM SEPTEMBER 12, 2020749

    World-leading scientists linked to the modelling Daniel Andrews has used to lock down Melbourne say the research has been misrepresented and have urged the Premier to rethink the restrictions as his virus ­suppression targets are impossible to meet.

    Melbourne University’s dean and head of medicine is urging the Victorian Premier to rerun the model with more realistic data that could allow an earlier move to ­restrictions being lifted.

    The scientists have argued that aged care, which has been devastated by the outbreak, should be ­separated from the model, which didn’t distinguish between those cases and those in the general community.

    In a bombshell claim that will ramp up pressure on the Victorian leader to revise his controversial COVID-19 road map, Shitij Kapur, dean and assistant vice-chancellor of health, and University of Melbourne colleague James McCaw, professor of mathematical ­biology, said no city in the world, apart from the virus source city of Wuhan, had achieved the same suppression goals contained in Mr Andrews’ road map released last Sunday.

    Writing in The Weekend Australian, the respected scientists ­suggest that the models do not support the extreme lockdowns imposed and have been over-relied on by the government to make a political decision.

    “Translating model outputs into a decision requires a consideration of many other factors,” they said. “It requires consideration of acceptable risk. In this case, the risk of overwhelming the public health response, in turn leading to unacceptable social, economic and health and medical costs.

    “It requires balancing the trade-offs between lives affected and livelihoods lost. It entails a choice of how much one can and should constrain the liberties and lives of citizens.

    “Just as we laud the government in providing clear guidelines based on a September 3 model, we urge the government to keep refining the models, perhaps build in considerations such as aged-care versus community, or rural versus metro, into future modelling. And when new information in mid-September is fed into such a model perhaps a different set of trade-offs may seem more optimal.”

    Mr Andrews has used the modelling to justify an extension to stage-four lockdowns in Melbourne until at least October, claiming it showed an early lifting of restrictions would spark a third-wave outbreak.

    Professors Kapur and McCaw have questioned the Victorian government’s suppression target of less than five new cases over a two-week period by October 26. While they said it wasn’t impossible, it would be a target not yet achieved in any comparable ­country.

    “No major city in Europe has attempted to suppress transmission to this extent — not London, nor Paris or Berlin. Nor have New York or LA or Chicago; and certainly not Sao Paulo, Mexico City or Mumbai,” they said.

    “Even the Asian cities lauded for their public health systems and compliant populations — Hong Kong, Singapore, Tokyo or Seoul — have not managed to achieve this strict threshold. Ironically the only major city that has achieved this is Wuhan. A city of 11 million that ­endured thousands of cases but then imposed perhaps the harshest of lockdowns, barring practically all movement and work.”

    The professors said the models had not justified the political decisions the government had made.

    They also revealed that they had informed the government of the limitations of the modelling based on the data the government was providing for the computations.

    “While this model captured many elements of the real world, it did not capture them all,” they said.

    “For example, the model does not distinguish between cases with known contacts versus ‘mystery cases’ and nor does it distinguish between cases in aged-care settings from those in the community; or where in Victoria they arise.

    “These limitations of the model, as well as many others, were openly acknowledged by the authors in the details released.

    “Models are only as good as their inputs and assumptions. Many of the two dozen inputs and assumptions that informed this model may change even before the end of September. Some of these assumptions will improve (e.g. our testing and tracing ability) and some may worsen (e.g. physical distancing fatigue).”

    The modelling team included Jason Thompson, Tony Blakely and Mark Stevenson from the University of Melbourne and Rod McClure from the University of New England.

    While they haven’t directly criticised the government, professors Kapur and McCaw have offered a way out for the Premier to revisit the lockdowns using different data in the models in the context of the “real world”.

    The Weekend Australian understands federal health authorities had an initial briefing from their Victorian counterparts in the past two days on the detailed modelling, which is believed to have confirmed their concerns about the modelling assumptions used.

    Business and employer groups last week demanded that the Andrews government release the detailed modelling to reveal the basis for the continued shutdown of businesses until at least the end of October.

  211. Makka

    Back, back, backing away.

    He’s correct Faustas. The failure was in the execution of the security at the hotels. It’s why we are in lockdown here. In my line of business there are very strict protocols and procedures regarding “Contract Management”. A person is ultimately responsible for contractors operating on your turf or your jurisdiction, just as one of your own employees. I’m reasonably certain this situation was no different. But if it was, seeing as this contract’s failure had the potential to destroy Vic’s economy and tens of thousands of lives and effectively sentence the elderly to death, NOT placing a very senior person in charge and responsible for maintaining contract performance integrity is a massive case of systemic neglect and failure. That contract was singularly the most important contract let by VicGov since WW2. Ultimately, Andrews wears it ALL. His Govt, his team, his ownership. He should already be removed and behind bars on charges.

  212. Some History

    Leigh Lowe
    #3586907, posted on September 16, 2020 at 12:49 pm

    Good points. If not for video, this incident would have been whitewashed by plod/media as “dangerous man subdued by heroic police effort”.

  213. monty

    Trump is gonna be on Rogan.

    No show Joe will miss out

    Four hours of the best long form interviewer in the world with the Orange Oaf and millions of Bernie Bros faithfully listening to their 5′ shaved chimp master.

    Elk meat and voting Trump.

    It’s why I am such a fucking animal, etc.

  214. feelthebern

    The last time I saw this lack of energy in a presidential campaign was in 2012 with Romney.
    & before that in 2004 with Kerry.
    & before that in 1996 with Dole.
    Seriously, running against a sitting prez is tough.

  215. feelthebern

    Thanks Leigh.
    Few different bits in the AFR article, but same same.

  216. Cassie of Sydney

    “Seriously, running against a sitting prez is tough.”

    Usually…but Clinton did it in 1992 and Reagan did it in 1980.

  217. MatrixTransform

    bullshit came straight out of Police Meeja on Sunday night.

    yep

    but, who ya gonna believe?

    The Age … or your own lying eyes?

  218. Snoopy

    Trump’s repeated calls for his supporters in NC to commit vote fraud by voting twice.

    Calm down. The Democrats claim this can’t possibly happen.

  219. Makka

    Sheesh. Don’t use hypochondriacs as guinea pigs;

    (Reuters) – Pfizer Inc said on Tuesday participants were showing mild-to-moderate side effects when given either the company’s experimental coronavirus vaccine or a placebo in an ongoing late-stage study.

    Over 12,000 study participants had received a second dose of the vaccine, Pfizer executives said on an investor conference call.

  220. dover_beach

    I was referring to Trumpkins helping the Greens trying to blow up the elections in Wisconsin, plus Trump’s repeated calls for his supporters in NC to commit vote fraud by voting twice.

    LOL. monty is rather desperate at the minute. Understandable, I’ve seen more people at a pauper’s funeral than a Biden rally.

  221. dover_beach

    monty, how’s the Harris-Biden campaign rolling?

  222. Infidel Tiger King

    Monty is right.

    All voters should need to show ID.

    Glad you have seen the light Monty.

  223. Leigh Lowe

    Makka

    #3586949, posted on September 16, 2020 at 1:26 pm

    Back, back, backing away.

    He’s correct Faustas. The failure was in the execution of the security at the hotels. 

    Yes, I am prepared to cut Sutton a bit of slack on that one.
    He is allegedly the Elf Supremo with absolute power, but it is clear no-one was in charge and everyone was in charge.
    It is almost 100% certain the decision to knock back the ADF came Dan Xi-Man or one of his political advisors (ie unions).
    Of course, you won’t find his fingerprints on it.

  224. Cassie of Sydney

    “All voters should need to show ID.”

    As they should here.

  225. feelthebern

    He is allegedly the Elf Supremo with absolute power, but it is clear no-one was in charge and everyone was in charge.

    If you have two quarterbacks, you have no quarterbacks.

  226. Leigh Lowe

    (Reuters) – Pfizer Inc said on Tuesday participants were showing mild-to-moderate side effects when given either the company’s experimental coronavirus vaccine or a placebo …

    You do know that there is an irrefutable link between Placebo and autism, right.
    It’s all in Faulty’s movie (if anyone bothered to watch it).
    Of course, no doubt the shills for Big Placebo will be along shortly to spread disinformation.

  227. Some History

    If you have two quarterbacks…

    you get a half back?

  228. feelthebern

    Will the executives & board members of the indigenous company that provided security for the quarantine hotels be charged under the snazzy Victorian laws?
    Or don’t those laws apply to Labor maaaaates who may or may not be donors?
    & it only applies to companies that does toe the accepted line from Disco Dan?

  229. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Reagan did it in 1980

    Running against a certain former peanut farmer who’d been involved in a regrettable incident with a rabbit.

  230. Leigh Lowe

    Cassie of Sydney

    #3586964, posted on September 16, 2020 at 1:46 pm

    “All voters should need to show ID.”

    As they should here.

    Are Boer War discharge papers OK as ID?

  231. C.L.

    I see Biden flew down to Florida for a “rally” of spicks. Cisco and Pancho showed up with a dog but that was about it. So he was assisted back to the plane and flown back to Scranton. His campaign is using lockdown to mask a total lack of enthusiasm and a total inability to perform under questioning. Biden loves that mask – it’s like a security blanket. Protecting Joe from the impertinent is the only remaining reason for coronavirus – and, from the left’s perspective, the most important one.

  232. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Are Boer War discharge papers OK as ID?

    Not in the name of “Harry Morant” or “Peter Handcock” no.

  233. dover_beach

    All voters should need to show ID.

    Glad you have seen the light Monty.

    monty called. He said that he decries your racism and extremism and that you have misunderstood him. No where has he suggested that any measures should be taken to mitigate voter fraud per se. He only means to question the legitimacy of any Republican victory if it eventuates. He told me to mention Secretary Clinton’s recent statement: Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances… .

  234. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #3586968, posted on September 16, 2020 at 1:50 pm

    Will the executives & board members of the indigenous company that provided security for the quarantine hotels be charged under the snazzy Victorian laws?

    Those papers have already been lodged with WorkCover and, by law, they have to give a written response which then can be challenged.

    Dan Xi-Man’s own minister said in Parliament when the bill went through that it would apply equally to Ministers (thinking to herself “As if! One of my office staff will die of a paper cut! Ha ha ha!”)

  235. feelthebern

    Also from the AFR.

    New COVID-19 genomic ‘radar’ to track outbreaks

    Australia has begun setting up the equivalent of a national radar system to track COVID-19 as it moves across the country.

    It will capture the genetics of positive cases and track the disease nationally, rather than state-by-state.

    The first national implementation of pathogen surveillance has the potential to reveal information that would otherwise be missed, including rapid insights into the behaviour, spread and evolution of COVID-19.

    & the data will show everything done to date was the biggest waste of time.
    Also the biggest act of financial terrorism small & medium business have ever seen in Australian history.

  236. johanna

    My man Zach recounts an embarrasing episode involving cowboy boots and a big hat:

  237. Dr Faustus

    Ultimately, Andrews wears it ALL. His Govt, his team, his ownership. He should already be removed and behind bars on charges.

    This should be quite true.
    But it’s not.

    Exhibit A: a Judicial Inquiry into a transparently failed executive process – where apparently all the executives concerned were faultless and performed their responsibilities to the letter.

  238. feelthebern

    Those papers have already been lodged with WorkCover and, by law, they have to give a written response which then can be challenged.

    Oustanding.
    But then it will end up in court, in front of a Labor maaaaates judge who will dismiss it.
    Then cock heads like Nicholas Reece will be able to say, the court has ruled on the matter.
    Loop closed.
    Next !

  239. stackja

    Regarding USA at the present. Reminds me of the USA 1860 election.
    Lincoln won. Democrats rebelled. Lincoln let Grant and Sherman end the rebellion.

  240. feelthebern

    New COVID-19 genomic ‘radar’ to track outbreaks
    Australia has begun setting up the equivalent of a national radar system to track COVID-19 as it moves across the country.

    This will be the closest Australia has ever had to the Springfield Bear Patrol.

  241. Some History

    This was the Police media release for the incident in the video below.

    “The six officers were cognizant of the fact that Mr. _ recently had back surgery and was withdrawing from painkillers. Being a welfare check, the officers wanted to ensure that Mr. _ was in good mental condition. All six officers carried Mr _ to the familiar surrounds of the front lawn where they proceeded to give Mr. _ a long, soothing massage. With great care, one officer used his baton to stroke Mr. _ shin, hoping to improve blood circulation. Given that it was a hot day and in response to Mr. _’s urging, the officers gently sprayed Mr. _ with water. By all standards, it was a most successful welfare check.”

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