Tuesday Forum: September 15, 2020

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  1. notafan

    Lol and in Victoria sitting is deadly.

    It’s exactly like that JD video.

  2. Leigh Lowe

    Bar Beach Swimmer

    #3587487, posted on September 16, 2020 at 8:57 pm

    Mick,
    I first went to Byron Bay with my parents on holidays – aged 10.

    1992?

  3. Leigh Lowe

    Former deputy chief health officer Annaliese van Diemen says she “don’t believe any one individual” is responsible for the failures of the hotel quarantine program that unleashed Victoria’s coronavirus second wave

    Don’t be shy Annaliese.
    Any chance we can pin this on Captain Cook?

  4. MatrixTransform

    she “don’t believe any one individual” is responsible

    a Clusterfuck of Experts

  5. Top Ender

    Scientific American…Not “Scientific” or “American”

    My old man was a National Geographic fan for years. I used to pick up a copy now and then and have a squiz.

    It’s gradually become more and more woke. So bad he gave up the sub.

  6. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Leigh,
    Now that would be telling, wouldn’t it.

    Have to say it’s a bit earlier than that😁

  7. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Leigh Lowe at 9:47 pm:

    ” Bar Beach Swimmer

    … at 8:57 pm

    Mick,
    I first went to Byron Bay with my parents on holidays – aged 10.

    1992?

    Zat you Faulty?

  8. mh

    Dot, that’s a pretty funny twitter account.

    It’s like Titania gone wild.

  9. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    The Australian front page:

    Dawn of a new peace

    Donald Trump used the signing of an accord between Israel, UAE and Bahrain to cast himself as an international statesman in the midst of the election campaign.”

    Evidently News.com has sub contracted out its headline writing to the ABC.

  10. Barry

    kaysee
    #3587341, posted on September 16, 2020 at 7:08 pm
    …..
    German doctor: COVID-19 vaccine ‘could prove to be the biggest mistake’

    With the extroadinary amount of money spent on developing and manufacturing a (likely to be ineffective) COVID Vaccine, Malaria could be wiped out, saving vastly more lives and misery. Malaria disroporionately affects the young, so ethically it is surely a more worthy target.

  11. It could be real but I think they’re reposting stuff from OnlyFans, I cannot on google search or tin eye find the profile pics.

    Sorry about the pr0n, I did not realise it was NSFW, I have seen “sensitive content” on twitter before, but never like that.

  12. P

    Thanks rickw, always enjoy and appreciate.

  13. Helen

    Yes dot, it was a bit Mandingo.

  14. notafan

    LS

    I searched #Dandenong to look for comments about Albanian protest and saw even worse.

  15. Arky

    Better infection control this year has reduced aged care deaths in Australia.

    ..
    By the time these fuckwits have decided Trump has won anyway, and thhet might as well start whistling and quietly walk away from the bullshit inflicted on us this year, none of us are going to have herd immunity to anything.
    We will all probably die from a wave of rampant toe jam and crotch itch infections.

  16. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Roger just got “caught up in situations”.’

    Fell in with the wrong crowd.
    Was just a lookout.
    Lashed out. Succumbed to peer pressure.
    Knows now he did the wrong thing. Big Jesus fan.

  17. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3587563, posted on September 16, 2020 at 10:23 pm

    ‘Roger just got “caught up in situations”.’

    Fell in with the wrong crowd.
    Was just a lookout.
    Lashed out. Succumbed to peer pressure.
    Knows now he did the wrong thing. Big Jesus fan.

    Saw a doco a while back about a parole board in the USA.
    Board member:-

    “You know what? If y’all looking to find God, yo search is over. Go to your nearest State when someone is up fo’ parole. Jesus is everywhere.”

  18. Leigh Lowe

    Bar Beach Swimmer

    #3587544, posted on September 16, 2020 at 9:53 pm

    Leigh,
    Now that would be telling, wouldn’t it.

    Have to say it’s a bit earlier than that

    Surely not!!

  19. Leigh Lowe

    Zat you Faulty?

    Eeeewww.
    How dare you.

  20. feelthebern

    Does anyone know what Avi is doing at 9am tomorrow?
    Or is this a Hannity style tick tock to nothing.

  21. DrBeauGan

    Ours is a technic civilisation. Most politicians and bureaucrats are not part of it. Indeed, they fear it and try to turn it back to a power-oriented tribal culture, with them in charge. The energy disaster, with bureaucrats determining how our power is sourced and distributed instead of engineers who actually understand the issues is an example of this. Unless we take power from the ignorant and distribute it to the informed, we are lost. And dictator dan is our future.

    They have made it impossible to implement the reforms we need without bloodshed. No good options are left.

  22. vlad

    Does anyone know what Avi is doing at 9am tomorrow?

    I don’t.

    He says it’s massive and it’s good news.

    If he doesn’t come up with the goods he’s going to lose some cred.

  23. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Does anyone know what Avi is doing at 9am tomorrow?’

    Live lockdown analysis.

    Special guest – Jim Jeffries.

  24. P

    My eldest son pulled into a driveway, with a steel grid entrance to that building, to pick me up from Laser Treatment at an adjacent Eye Specialists Rooms today.
    As I had been waiting for him next to the driveway I heard some bloke in a fluorescent jacket yelling. As I approached I put on my very best old ladies act (I am 80 BTW) and waved my arms in the air, and got into the car. As we drove away I asked my son why he had ignored the person yelling.
    He said ‘I don’t listen if they don’t speak English’. ‘He had asked me if I was Aladdin, twice’.

    Anyway, I reckon the bloke in the fluorescent was saying: ‘Are you allowed in?’

    Previously there had been at this address a bay where one could pick up people from these specialist rooms and drive straight through. Now there are black steel bollards recently cemented to that area, and seating provided.
    Need I say that the RoP have moved into the building next door to the Eye Specialists I have visited since the mid 1980s.

    I would normally attend the specialist rooms at Castle Hill, but for surgery and laser procedures one must go to Parramatta.

    I am only up writing this now as I have to put drops in my eye every hour and today is the day that all the work is done to keep open the hole done by the laser. Tomorrow drops will be q.i.d.

  25. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Dr BG,
    How do you think we can foil the catastrophe?

  26. ????

    Maybe only fund decent degrees (STEM) and end the stupid bloody lockdowns? Or buy picking machinery, OR, employ locals? Or maybe the farmers can eat shit?

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2020-09-10/farm-labour-shortage-hecs-subsidy-for-students-to-pick-fruit/12641778

    NT Farmers Association has proposed a new system to attract uni students into farm work, which would see students receive a discount off their HECS debt

    The idea has been raised in the Senate, but has not yet been endorsed
    Agriculture Minister David Littleproud says students could play a big role in harvesting crops and government is looking at a range of incentives

    Imagine training a cohort of engineers per se and they can’t work or can’t move for work as required. So you send them to west booligal on unskilled labour wages and discount on their course fees.

    You might “need a sign”.

  27. JC

    Top Ender
    #3587543, posted on September 16, 2020 at 9:53 pm

    Scientific American…Not “Scientific” or “American”

    My old man was a National Geographic fan for years. I used to pick up a copy now and then and have a squiz.

    It’s gradually become more and more woke. So bad he gave up the sub.

    I’m sure someone’s mentioned it earlier. This ‘prestigious” science magazine has endorsed Hiden for prez.

    The world is going to cook itself by 2100 or as AOC says, in 10 years, but let’s not speculate that a presidential candidate is going into dementia in first gear.

    FMD

  28. What we need is an ever growing suite of government policies to counter the worst excesses of prior policies.

    We really need the dead hand of the state to act like an ever growing spiral of unstable and costly impositions on society until we course correct to a bureaucracy led nirvana.

  29. JC

    Dot

    Is there a legal case against lockdowns and banning interstate travel on constitutional grounds? The HC has bravely decided to take a relevant case in November. No hurry, because it’s not urgent of course. Lord, they’re gutless swine. (It’s a miracle the HC found for Pell).

  30. Makka

    It’s never good to mix meds and alcohol dotty.

  31. Makka

    JC, this was posted on the other thread. The latest restriction and fines on “illegal” travel to Regional Vic looks legal.

    Suburban Boy
    #3587574, posted on September 16, 2020 at 10:34 pm
    At the risk of pouring a thimbleful of fact and reason into an ocean of speculation and paranoia:

    1. VicPol cannot create offences. Nugent’s quote (if correct) is a very sloppy way of describing what has just happened with the new offence.

    2. The new offence was created today (16 September) not by VicPol but by the Governor in Council (the Governor of Victoria acting on the formal advice of the Ministers). The Minister for Health, Jenny Mikakos, is named as the responsible minister (!) in the regulation.

    3, The regulation creating the offence is the Public Health and Wellbeing Amendment (Further Infringements) Regulations 2020, under power conferred by section 232 of the Public Health and Wellbeing Act 2008.

    4. The name of the new offence is, “An offence against section 203(1) of the Act constituted by a contravention of directions given under section 200(1) of the Act by refusing or failing to comply with a requirement in relation to leaving a restricted area in Victoria without a reasonable excuse or other valid reason or excuse”.

    5. As has been widely reported, the penalty prescribed for the offence is stated to be 30 penalty units, equivalent to $4,956.60.

  32. JC

    It’s heading towards an unambiguous fascist/police state now Makka. There are no words to describe the hatred I feel for the left, particularly the Victorian left and the Vic Cheka. I don’t often use the “hate” either.

  33. Makka

    I think we are already there JC. When you look at VikPol behavior and intimidation, Andrews edicts and disdain for any contrary opinions, the lockdowns, media fawning etc… if this isn’t a police state I don’t know what it is. I’ve lived in few as a foreigner, this is what it looks like. “Hate” doesn’t do justice to how I feel about the Vic left and their SA Blackshirts.

  34. Arky

    “Hate” is such a strong word.
    I prefer unambiguously homicidal antipathy.

  35. JC

    Yes Leigh, my parole officer allows me web contact twice a week.

  36. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Interesting USA abortion stats, for those who care about such things.
    https://imgur.com/gallery/A4KJF4t

  37. Arky

    If you are going to post doctored bullshit, try to make it doctored bullshit that isn’t disproved with half a minute of research.
    http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/graphusabrate.html

  38. Look up the Russian/Soviet abortion data.

    Mind blowing.

  39. JC

    Has anyone posted this link recently? Antifa has quite a history. It sprung out of the German political mess prior to the Nazis taking over. Anyone who isn’t a communist was considered a fascist at the time. Just like now.

    Ernst Thälmann (16 April 1886 – 18 August 1944) was a German communist politician, and leader of the Communist Party of Germany (KPD) from 1925 to 1933.

    A committed Stalinist, Thälmann played a major role during the political instability of the Weimar Republic, especially in its final years, when the KPD explicitly sought to overthrow the liberal democracy of the republic. Under his leadership the KPD became intimately associated with the government of the Soviet Union and the policies of Joseph Stalin, and from 1928 the party was largely controlled and funded by Stalin’s government. The KPD under Thälmann’s leadership regarded the Social Democratic Party (SPD) as its main adversary and the party adopted the position that the social democrats were “social fascists.”

    Thälmann was also leader of the paramilitary Roter Frontkämpferbund (which was banned as extremist by the governing social democrats in 1929). In 1932 he established Antifaschistische Aktion or Antifa, which concentrated its attacks on the recently formed social democratic paramilitary organization Iron Front. He was arrested by the Gestapo in 1933 and held in solitary confinement for eleven years; for political reasons, Stalin did not seek his release when he entered into the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact with Germany, and Thälmann’s party rival Walter Ulbricht ignored requests to plead on his behalf. Many of Thälmann’s closest associates who had emigrated to the Soviet Union were executed during the Great Purge of the 1930s. Thälmann was shot on Adolf Hitler’s personal orders in Buchenwald in 1944.[1]

    more here

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Th%C3%A4lmann

  40. dover_beach

    If you are going to post doctored bullshit, try to make it doctored bullshit that isn’t disproved with half a minute of research.

    Yes, something was very iffy about those numbers given that the situation on the ground, legally, never changed from 1980 to 2016, so those numbers didn’t make sense.

  41. Makka

    JC , what’s the Fed going to come out with later? Status quo to be maintained or even more dovish?

  42. Leigh Lowe

    Arky

    #3587613, posted on September 16, 2020 at 11:55 pm

    If you are going to post doctored bullshit, try to make it doctored bullshit that isn’t disproved with half a minute of research.

    That reminds me.
    Where is Faulty.

  43. dover_beach

    I should add, also, that excluding Carter’s term was exceedingly tendentious.

  44. Arky

    Yes, something was very iffy about those numbers given that the situation on the ground, legally, never changed from 1980 to 2016, so those numbers didn’t make sense.

    ..
    You would have to look at it with legislative changes in the biggest states.
    But to look at nationwide per female population 15 to 44 is wrong, in the graph I posted you can see the ratio of born to aborted has a constant decline, meaning you can infer the changes in rate of reduction between presidencies has more to do with overall number of pregnancies, not a decrease in the rate at which pregnant women terminate.

  45. Leigh Lowe

    The table linked by Arky.
    Exactly 292 abortions in each year … 1961, 1962 and 1963.
    Spooky!

  46. dover_beach

    You would have to look at it with legislative changes in the biggest states.

    Roe, Casey prevents any of the states making it illegal, and given that the largest states are mostly Dem states, well, you know the rest. The graph also is very similar to the divorce rate, massive rise post-legalization and then gradual decline but still massively above rate before legalization.

  47. Zyconoclast

    Doing a Kevin Spacey.
    Didn’t work for KS but might work for this person.

    Andrew Gillum comes back to public life, starting with coming out as bisexual

    Former Florida gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum isn’t the first bisexual politician in the United States. But he is certainly the most prominent Black man to come out as such, and the way he came out earlier this week — as a way of reemerging in public life following a scandal that many viewed as the likely end of his political career — could make room for more people to do so, according to LGBT advocates.
    Gillum came out as bisexual Monday during his first sit-down interview since March, when police found him inebriated and unconscious in a South Beach Miami hotel room with two men. (Drugs were found at the scene, though Gillum denies he used illegal substances and was not arrested.)

  48. Arky

    To understand the lousy trick involved in posting that stupid graph, you have to see look at the births chart for the USA.
    People just have more sex when there is a Republican in office.
    Of course, when democrats are in, births drop, therefore, also, abortions per 1000 women 15- 44 also decline.
    ..
    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/11/27/14/21534820-7731317-image-m-16_1574865322455.jpg

  49. JC

    makka

    I’d say it there will be no change to the previous fed comments. What they said last month was pretty historic anyway.

    There could be some shit coming out about banking regulations though. I’m just speculating here. Those complete fucking morons at Citigroup paid out $US900 million to a group of debt holders they were warring with over some bond issue. They actually paid out $900 million and it was a mistake.

    Citigroup Inc. paid nearly $900 million by mistake to Revlon Inc. … Citi executives were soon asking for the money back, saying it was paid inadvertently due to an operational error, the people familiar said. The lenders were paid the full principal and accrued interest on the loan, one of the people said.

    The CEO resigned.

  50. Makka

    Goodo JC. I think the same. Nothing new until after the election.

  51. JC

    Hey, Citibank is sending out wire transfers totalling $900 million. If any of you guys want some, just call Citibank and tell them where to wire the cashola. Fucking morons.

  52. JC

    Just imagine the nightmare asking for this thing’s hand in marriage. Imagine repeating the vows that you’re stuck with it until death do us part.

    https://twitter.com/YesThatAnna/status/1306223929372094466

  53. JC

    Totally true.

    President Trump suggested again that Joe Biden is a Trojan horse for radical leftists.

    Said Trump: “His handlers and the Fake News Media are doing everything possible to get him through the Election. Then he will resign, or whatever, and we are stuck with a super liberal wack job that NOBODY wanted!”

  54. Arky

    . this thing’s

    ..
    Eh.
    I’d do it.
    I’m going deaf anyway.

  55. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Struth, a bit more…

    Farewell to Australia forever
    Farewell to it’s freedoms as well
    For a small bunch of socialist nutters
    Hold the power to send us to hell.

    CH

    We’ve a despotic leader in Canberra
    Who along with his Premier mates,
    Is funding the taking of freedoms,
    As the putsch rolls all over the states

    CH

    He’s denied us our Document’s freedoms,
    While funding these coup d’etat corps
    As his words seek to coax our agreement,
    While the jackboots enforce all these laws

    CH

    His lies stand before all Australians
    As the Premiers hold out their hands
    While the people remain under curfew
    The poor country will never withstand

    CH

    The High Court no longer is sitting,
    On questions of freedoms and rights,
    Upholding such duties so sacred,
    Leaves the Justices all out of sight.

    CH

    There’s no-one to stand up against this,
    Each day as we’re bearing these chains
    For the hierarchy has all of the power
    And the people are under the strain

    CH

    If I had the wings of a Learjet
    Away from this country, I’d soar
    Straight into the arms of The President
    As The Donald advanced to the fore.

    Chorus:
    No singing, no singing forever,
    Singing sounds shit in a mask
    No dancing, no lunching together,
    As the coppers take us all to task

  56. mh

    Paywallian

    Public servant quits, slams ‘police state’
    A Victorian Department of Finance and Treasury economist has resigned so he can call out Dan Andrews’ handling of the pandemic

  57. mh

    Africans

    Police arrest 10 after teen died in Brisbane park baseball-bat brawl

    Ten men will be charged with murder following the death of a teenager who died in a Brisbane park melee on Sunday.

    Girum Mekonnen, 19, died at the scene after paramedics could not revive him after a brawl between two groups in Zillmere about 5pm on Sunday.

    They were set upon by a second group, with at least nine people who were brandishing knives and baseball bats arriving at the park in three cars, Superintendent Tony Fleming said on Tuesday.

    The 10 arrested people were expected to each be charged with one count of murder, 11 counts of acts intended to cause grievous bodily harm (representing 11 victims of the brawl) and one count of affray.

    Superintendent Fleming said detectives executed search warrants at residences in south Brisbane and Ipswich on Wednesday morning.

    He said police would allege the suspects fled O’Callaghan Park just before police arrived at the scene and they were picked up nearby and taken back to the Ipswich area.

    The vehicles have been seized as part of the ongoing investigation.

    Superintendent Fleming said the 10 people would be accused of going to O’Callaghan Park with the intent to assault the victims.

    “It’s an unacceptable attack on a group of people who were just going about their business that afternoon,” he said.

    Superintendent Fleming said an assault on September 8 at Redbank Plains, west of Brisbane, was potentially the catalyst to this recent “violent and confrontational” attack.

    Police have also provided an update on the victims. Only three of the 11 victims remained in hospital on Wednesday – one was in a serious condition and the other two were recovering.

    On Sunday night, three people were taken to hospital with critical injuries, two were seriously injured and the others suffered minor injuries.

    Police and SES volunteers spent Tuesday sweeping O’Callaghan Park for further evidence.

    Superintendent Fleming said injuries suffered ranged from one person with a broken thumb to those with critical stab wounds as well as significant head injuries from blows from baseball bats.

    “This was an event that was highly confrontational and has been traumatic for the victim of the crime and the family of those who have been victimised here,” he said.

    https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/at-least-three-in-custody-over-brisbane-park-homicide-20200916-p55w5z.html

  58. 132andBush

    Rowe is the worst cartoonist of our generation.
    Any generation for that matter.

  59. johanna

    Of course I am delighted by Trump’s initiatives to solve long standing international problems.

    But, here’s the thing. The history of national leaders who catapulted themselves into the international sphere is not good. They have taken their eye off the ball at home to try to create a name for themselves in the history books.

    Maybe Trump can walk and chew gum at the same time. I hope so.

    But as his predecessers in the US and elsewhere have found out, the local punters don’t give a rat’s about whether he has achieved peace in Syria. Why should they?

    Gareth Evans found that out the hard way, although we must give him credit for coining the term ‘relevance deprivation syndrome.’

    A friend worked for him, a very smart chap, and he was in awe of Gareth’s brain.

    Not so much of his sex life. 🙂

  60. Mater

    Some scamp stole my lyrics and put them to music.

    https://youtu.be/oIIaI4if7X4

    Can you trust no one on this bloody forum???

  61. calli

    Poor Rowe. How he must suffer. All that talent gradually being stripped away by hate. Imagine him each and every day looking for a story to lampoon.

    And always getting stuck in the same spot.

    Branco this morning. Follows on the heels of Fox’s comments on “blackness” yesterday.

  62. Crossie

    Thank Tom, every morning I look forward to the toon. One thing I have noticed is that Ramirez often misses than hits the mark. Pity.

  63. Crossie

    calli
    #3587658, posted on September 17, 2020 at 6:11 am
    Poor Rowe. How he must suffer.

    Most mornings I just give him a miss, no need to spoil the good work of other cartoonists who make me smile or chortle.

  64. johanna

    calli, I am pulling up and spraying broadleaf weeds, but their airborne propagation is the devil.

    In my tiny townhouse yard, there are dozens of them.

    On another note, I am selling my shack because the arthritis is making the stairs a problem.

    I called a couple of local agents yesterday to find out what they have on offer. One was polite and offered whatever I want for 1.175%. The other, a franchise of a big company, told me that it would cost a grand to tidy up the garden and deep clean the house (which is just in need of a good scrub, not at all dirty). When I said that it was ridiculous, he doubled down. I fired him on the spot.

    The real estate business must have a lot of fat for creeps like him to still be employed.

    When I sold the previous shack in Narrabundah, I had no idea what was involved. It was very stressful

    Tell you what, I’ve hardened up about buying and selling.

  65. Knuckle Dragger

    Can’t wait for Liability Bob to pump up Rowe’s tyres this morning.

  66. Mater

    Can you trust no one on this bloody forum???

    Do you think it might have been Bob or Monty…just to spite me?

  67. Mater

    Victoria Police: Winning hearts and minds…one handcuff at a time!

  68. johanna

    Looking at TheirABC’s Just In page, we have ‘Here’s What We Know’ and of course their ‘experts.’

    The original ABC was intended to promulgate facts – the hardcore, proved kind. Now, we have ‘here’s what we know’ – although who ‘we’ are is unclear.

    Could somebody please ask in Senate Estimates who exactly ‘we’ represents?

  69. 1735099

    Victoria police – winning hearts and minds…

    Victoria police – saving lives – one at a time…

  70. rickw

    Salty Cracker, 6:38, The Switch:

  71. Cassie of Sydney

    “JC
    #3587629, posted on September 17, 2020 at 12:48 am
    Totally true.

    President Trump suggested again that Joe Biden is a Trojan horse for radical leftists.

    Said Trump: “His handlers and the Fake News Media are doing everything possible to get him through the Election. Then he will resign, or whatever, and we are stuck with a super liberal wack job that NOBODY wanted!””

    100% true about Biden and this needs to be repeated again and again…..if Biden is elected it won’t be him who is inaugurated.

    Good to see you JC.

  72. rickw

    Victoria police – saving lives – one at a time…

    Like the guy who’s in a coma? The old dude in his car that they shot at and missed? No?

  73. Mater

    Victoria police – saving lives – one at a time…

    So thought every great tyrant.

  74. Mater

    Bob,
    Do you know how people can tell you’re lying?

    Your lips move. Or in this case, your fingers touch the keyboard.

  75. johanna

    y’all want a laugh to start the day – Zach goes to the spa:

  76. Knuckle Dragger

    Well, the good news is The Big Show and Alex Carey made 108 and 106 respectively, and were responsible for Straya chasing down the 302 set them by the Poms overnight.

    The outstanding news is Mitch Marsh, having been given an armchair ride both to and in the national team (thanks Swampy) was a passenger once again.

    Six pissweak overs. No wickets.

    Batted at no. 5(!) and made the princely score of 2 from eight pills, before improving the game’s image beyond measure by walking off the ground and taking no further part in the match.

  77. Cassie of Sydney

    “Victoria police – saving lives – one at a time…”

    Just like the Queensland police, back in Joh Bjelke-Petersen’s day, were saving lives….one at a time.

  78. feelthebern

    Big Show is the only decent thing about Australian cricket.

  79. rickw

    Laowhy86, 15:02, why Mulan sucks and why Chinese hate it:

  80. feelthebern

    The good news is that the fraud is ending.
    They tried to string it out for as long as they could.
    The tragedy is how many lives have been needlessly destroyed.

  81. 132andBush

    Do you think it might have been Bob or Monty…just to spite me?

    Anything is possible but given they would both burst into flame at the mere thought I don’t think so.
    Bob (or a reasonable facsimile) is here already, so it wasn’t him.

  82. rickw

    Dr Steve Turley, 14:26, Democrat Police switching sides and reaching out to militias:

  83. rickw

    Bob (or a reasonable facsimile) is here already, so it wasn’t him.

    Naughty Munty! Not the first time he’s been caught copying!

  84. feelthebern

    The DNC is already having their surrogates trash Joe Rogan.
    “Biden won’t appear with such a misogynist”.
    Rogan Trump will happen, with or without Sleepy Joe.

  85. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Just like the Queensland police, back in Joh Bjelke-Petersen’s day’

    Yep. 1987, five years before Kennett turned up in Victoria’s big chair. Didn’t stop the mass exodus though.

  86. Cassie of Sydney

    I think Avi’s big news is that he is going to sue Victorian police for his assault and false arrest. I reckon he has a case.

  87. Cassie of Sydney

    “feelthebern
    #3587695, posted on September 17, 2020 at 7:09 am
    The DNC is already having their surrogates trash Joe Rogan.
    “Biden won’t appear with such a misogynist”.
    Rogan Trump will happen, with or without Sleepy Joe.”

    This is manna from heaven for Joe Rogan and Trump.

  88. Shy Ted

    1735099
    #3587676, posted on September 17, 2020 at 6:51 am
    Victoria police – winning hearts and minds…

    Victoria police – saving lives – one at a time…
    Poor old bugger, now he’s putting his comment in italics. They can do that in special schools.

  89. Tom

    Daily dose of Australia!

    Thanks, rickw. A musical remembrance of the fascist coup d’etat of 2020 by the government of Victoria against its people.

    A year ago, I wouldn’t have thought it possible. But any monstrosity is possible when you get into bed with the communist Chinese fascists.

    PS: yesterday’s edition of Tucker Carlson Tonight was extremely scary. More breaking news promised for today on a) the Chinese Communist Party’s deliberate invention and dissemination of Kung Flu from the Wuhan government laboratory b) the Deep State traitors in the intelligence community working on the November coup d’etat against the US government.

  90. feelthebern

    Trump Rogan will be the biggest global event ever.
    Not just the US.
    Any English speaker will be watching live.
    Then wait for the translated rebroadcast in Spanish.
    Joe knows he has a billion view event.
    His spotify deal has so many incentives built into it.
    It would turn his US100mill deal into a 150-200 pretty quickly.

  91. feelthebern

    Is it illegal to drive around Melbourne blasting this ?

  92. rickw

    Dice, 8:22, the wokeness never ends:

  93. rickw

    I think Avi’s big news is that he is going to sue Victorian police for his assault and false arrest. I reckon he has a case.

    Great news! Lawfare the pricks!

  94. feelthebern

    This Barr chap looks like snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

    Barr Tells Prosecutors to Consider Charging Violent Protesters With Sedition

    Attorney General William Barr told the nation’s federal prosecutors to be aggressive when charging violent demonstrators with crimes, including potentially prosecuting protesters for plotting to overthrow the U.S. government, people familiar with the conversation said.

    You’ve got a bunch of people charged with destroying federal property.
    Slam dunk.
    Why not ensure 100% chance of failure with a sedition charge?
    Seriously.
    Why not due some real damage to them & use the RICO laws.
    Because that would actually do something.
    It’s all a big scam.

  95. notafan

    Yep. Not exactly scoop of the century then.

  96. Knuckle Dragger

    Stefanovic on Skah, and apropos of the regional Vicco restrictions lifting:

    ‘All small businesses in regional areas will re-open’

    No they won’t, you giant cockhead. No. They won’t.

  97. Snoopy

    Well, THIS is a surprise!

    Victoria’s anti-corruption watchdog has expressed serious doubt about whether any criminal charges will flow from the Lawyer X scandal.

    The Independent Broad Based Anti-Corruption Commission (IBAC) said it does not have the proper powers to go after police officers involved in the state’s biggest legal scandal.

    It also said a critical lack of resources severely weakened its ability to investigate what has been described as a “mammoth, Janus-like task”.

  98. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Not exactly scoop of the century then.’

    No. It’s a very good thing, don’t get me wrong and I hope he gets a payday if – IF – that’s his news, but it’s a long way from finding a million children in a Nullarbor tunnel.

  99. Tintarella di Luna

    Is it illegal to drive around Melbourne blasting this ?

    . but unfortunately this is a song and such a protest would be banned in Melbourne simply because the red flags don’t have the 5 stars on them

  100. notafan

    Old Bobby just loves Victoria at the moment, totalitarian police state, only thing missing is the AK47s and the cheerful squalor.

    Dan’s working on it.
    Don’t you worry about that.

  101. Knuckle Dragger

    Scholar.

    Cheerful scholar.

  102. notafan

    Without visitors from Melbourne. Much mirthing.

    And the cafe that had a sign threatening to shoot Melbournians. We are done.

  103. feelthebern

    The Independent Broad Based Anti-Corruption Commission (IBAC) said it does not have the proper powers to go after police officers involved in the state’s biggest legal scandal.

    Close the loop.
    Nicholas Cockhead Reece: It’s been investigated & no charges were laid, so it’s time we moved on.

  104. custard

    Seems like Leigh might have asked the question that I tweeted her yesterday

    Make sure you ask @MarkMcGowanMP why he is locking up his citizens because of a virus that 99.98% of people who contract it, survive!

  105. notafan

    Yes custard but look at the response from WA residents.

    So angry Leigh Sales is now trending. Looks like most of WA has drunk the coronavirus koolaid.

  106. Mater

    Do you think it might have been Bob or Monty…just to spite me?

    Anything is possible but given they would both burst into flame at the mere thought I don’t think so.

    Yeah, but he might want his 15 minutes of fame. He has, after all, got his own line in the lyrics.

    “And the band played Waltzing Matilda
    As the socialists looked on with their glees

    1735099
    #3382312, posted on March 29, 2020 at 11:24 am
    There’s a stark similarity between the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs and the Corona virus.
    It will be fascinating to watch which of the dinosaurs that underpin global Capitalism remain when it’s done.

  107. feelthebern

    FMD.
    The National Museum of Art (tax payers) bails out Trevor Kennedy to the tune of $8mill.
    Un.
    Fucking.
    Believable.
    It’s a club & you aint in it.

    h/t GC.

  108. Leigh Lowe

    mh

    #3587639, posted on September 17, 2020 at 2:34 am

    Africans

    Police arrest 10 after teen died in Brisbane park baseball-bat brawl

    Death toll in Brisbane this week:-
    African gangs … 1
    Kung Flu … 0
    What is Anesthesia doing to keep Queenssslanders safe?

  109. notafan

    Oh great. Super industry gagging no doubt for some more taxpayer projects.

    Still first cab off the infrastructure free for all rank should be East West link.

  110. Mater

    BTW, Bob.

    I was talking to God last night (as you’ve probably picked up, we converse regularly). He indicated that he’d rather the Pearly Gates not be suddenly swamped with the murdered souls of good, hard working people.

    I got the distinct impression that he’d rather you back off praying for a socialist take over.

  111. Knuckle Dragger

    Geez Mater.

    That’s not very progressive.

  112. Leigh Lowe

    1735099

    #3587676, posted on September 17, 2020 at 6:51 am

    Victoria police – winning hearts and minds…

    Victoria police – saving lives – one at a time…

    It doesn’t matter would you think, Spud, or what VikPol Meeja unit pumps out.
    People down here who previously stood four-square behind them now hate them with a passion.
    Peeception.
    It is everything.

  113. Tintarella di Luna

    The AFL has given Qld a $60m boost as league considers spending more time in the state in 2021

    . Headline at the Oz — $60m will make such a yuuuuug difference in paying off the 100billion Queensland debt burden

  114. Mater

    That’s not very progressive.

    I’m not sure God is a “Progressive Catholic”.

  115. Tel

    Sanjeev Sabhlok ‘s blog. He is the Victorian government economist who quit last week

    I’m guessing that since they no longer have much of an economy … they won’t be needing economists anymore.

  116. caveman

    Could this be true that the Feds to shift away from subsidising wind n solar?? Would still like to see ScoMo throw some coal around, he use to carry a chunk around with him.

  117. Mater

    It doesn’t matter would you think, Spud, or what VikPol Meeja unit pumps out.
    People down here who previously stood four-square behind them now hate them with a passion.

    Correct.
    Many of us had Great-Grandfathers, Grandfathers, Fathers, Brothers, Sisters, Cousins and/or Friends in VicPol (many of whom are horrified at the current behaviour), and supported them to the hilt…until now.

    I’ve heard many stories of Thin Blue Line accoutrements being removing from civilian clothes by former members.

    #stickyourblueribbonupyourarse

  118. notafan

    LNP no confidence notion in Victoria today. Let Labor MLA know. 🙂

  119. custard

    Nota sadly you are right about the kool-aid over here. I just keep reminding them that we are prisoners in our own country.

  120. notafan

    Certainly not ones that don’t toe the line.

  121. Anthony

    Seems to me that Andrews can tell porkies with complete immunity. Seems like Vicpol can tell porkies with complete immunity. This cannot last.

  122. Leigh Lowe

    I see Trevor Kennedy has sold his collection of Australian artefacts to the National Gallery.
    One of the more interesting pieces is an urn containing the ashes of Offset Alpine Printing.

  123. feelthebern

    Could this be true that the Feds to shift away from subsidising wind n solar??

    Zero chance.
    The speculation is growing (read, people are being softened up) to the Future Fund having a domestic infrastructure minimum mandate.
    That means renewables.

  124. Des Deskperson

    ‘A friend worked for him, a very smart chap, and he was in awe of Gareth’s brain.’

    Indeed, by all accounts, Johanna. Oddly, however, he still, as a result of either egotism or insecurity, felt the need to constantly display it.

    This gave us a degree of grief back in Defence back in the eighties when he was the Minister for Defence’s rep in the Senate and under clumsy but relentless questioning from Senators Valentine and Sanders over controversial aspects of defence relations with the US, including the Joint Facilities and warship visits.

    We would prepare question time briefs with extreme care to give away a minimum of information but Evans, to show how smart and across the issues he was, would always add some additional clever/smartarse comment and that comment invariably gave his opponents more ammunition for further questions.

    I would stress that he never, as far as I know, gave away any thing that was classified.

    As for his sex life, last time I saw him – a couple of years back – he had grown a enormous and unattractive swag belly – the result, one imagines, of too many taxpayer-funded dinners. I can’t imagine him, as we used to say, pulling many birds these days with a gut like that.

  125. feelthebern

    Australian artefacts to the National Gallery.

    It’s a taxpayer bailout.

  126. feelthebern

    Southpark pandemic trailer has dropped.
    When Southpark take the piss out you, you know you’ve lost.
    Just like Man-Bear-Pig.

  127. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I’ve heard many stories of Thin Blue Line accoutrements being removing from civilian clothes by former members.’

    Retire Police Association (RPA) stickers have been scraped off cars and utes, which says in no uncertain terms that cops from days of yore feel they’ve had a bucket of rancid diarrhoea tipped over everything they worked for for decades by the current crop of rent-seeking, imported porky dwarfs and lesbians infesting that once-proud institution.

    Nobody’s publicly asked what the attrition rate of VicJack Inc’s been over the past six months. Horrific, will be the answer to that question (when it’s asked), and the numbers consist almost entirely of real cops being tipped over the edge by demands made of them to target average people instead of keeping society’s shit away from them.

  128. Eyrie

    the result, one imagines, of too many taxpayer-funded dinners

    The Parliamentary dining room is clearly a very good paddock. Just look at the fat bastards including Morro.

  129. stackja

    Oregon wildfires: Woman seen holding suspected arsonist at gunpoint
    The woman said she won’t be as nice should she face the same situation again

    The woman, Kat Cast, can be seen in the video parking her car, grabbing a gun, and approaching the suspect as he is crossing a road.

    “Get on the floor, right now, face down! What are you doing on my property?” Cast shouts at the man. “Did you light anything on fire?”

    “I will tell you something though if I need to do this again to protect my family and my neighbors, I will in a heartbeat do it again, except this time I will not be as nice as I was.”

    facebook linky
    GRAPHIC LANGUAGE WARNING:

  130. Mater

    Victoria police – saving lives – one at a time…

    Good to see that Bob has a new found respect for Police. I wonder why?

    1735099
    #3197038, posted on October 29, 2019 at 7:01 pm

    “Activists who allegedly struck a police horse”

    No need to “strike” horses.
    Back in the day (anti-Springbok demos) a bag of marbles – especially Tom Bowlers – was all that was necessary. Once deployed, the plod stopped using them (the horses) in short order.
    Millennials aren’t all that resourceful.

  131. Leigh Lowe

    As for his sex life, last time I saw him – a couple of years back – he had grown a enormous and unattractive swag belly – the result, one imagines, of too many taxpayer-funded dinners. I can’t imagine him, as we used to say, pulling many birds these days with a gut like that.

    When news of the dalliance with Cheryl Kernot broke I was stunned.
    To think two women on the planet had slept with Garrulous Evans.

  132. William the Conjuror

    Seems like Leigh might have asked the question that I tweeted her yesterday

    Make sure you ask @MarkMcGowanMP why he is locking up his citizens because of a virus that 99.98% of people who contract it, survive!

    Except Leigh didn’t. Didn’t even intimate it. Maybe you were watching The Bachelor.

  133. mh

    Courier Mail (paywalled)

    KAISER WHO? PREMIER’S ‘MYSTERY MAN’ BEHIND QLD’S ECONOMIC FUTURE
    He was a former Queensland MP and chief of staff to Anna Bligh, but Annastacia Palaszczuk claimed ignorance when questioned on the role of this Labor stalwart in the lead-up to the state election. It comes as she defended spending hundreds of thousands of…

    I’m not sure if she is being cute, or just being Liarbor.
    Even I know Mike Kaiser. A gravy train specialist, par excellence. A Qld state MP who was busted over branch stacking.

  134. Tintarella di Luna

    I’m not sure if she is being cute, or just being Liarbor.
    Even I know Mike Kaiser. A gravy train specialist, par excellence. A Qld state MP who was busted over branch stacking.

    Perhaps it was the pronunciation of his name that confused her — if it had been pronounce Kaisershay might have helped

  135. notafan

    Oh Grigstroll

    Then what did Leigh Sales ask that has enraged Western Australians?

    Hint it’s in the link I posted upthread.

  136. Boambee John

    Even I know Mike Kaiser. A gravy train specialist, par excellence. A Qld state MP who was busted over branch stacking.

    Does this mean that Kaiser has jumped off the NBN gravy train?

  137. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Andrews faces no-confidence motion

    A motion of no-confidence against Daniel Andrews will be tabled in the Victorian parliament today, with a vote next month, The Herald Sun reports.

    Opposition Leader Michael O’Brien will introduce the motion and put the vote to the lower house..

    Mr O’Brien said the government had botched its handling of the pandemic, particularly with hotel quarantine and contract tracing failures which sparked Victoria’s deadly second wave.

    He said Mr Andrews had lost the support of Victorians.

    However, the the motion will almost definitely be voted down as Labor holds a commanding 11-seat majority.

  138. Boambee John

    Mater
    #3587751, posted on September 17, 2020 at 8:24 am
    Victoria police – saving lives – one at a time…

    Good to see that Bob has a new found respect for Police. I wonder why?

    1735099
    #3197038, posted on October 29, 2019 at 7:01 pm

    “Activists who allegedly struck a police horse”

    No need to “strike” horses.
    Back in the day (anti-Springbok demos) a bag of marbles – especially Tom Bowlers – was all that was necessary. Once deployed, the plod stopped using them (the horses) in short order.
    Millennials aren’t all that resourceful.

    Juat standard fascist left politics.

    When the fascist left is out of power, free speech is essential. Once they get power Charters of Rights can be suspended.

    When the fascist left is out of power, police are eeevill pigs. Once they get power their black shirted Gestapo/Stasi are allowed to run rampant.

  139. notafan

    Barnaby in big trouble for pulling legs in New England.

    Trending on Twitter.

    Nuts.

  140. Top Ender

    From feelthebern’s link to the article about Bill Kelty above. What does Bill want to fix:

    a critical shortage of public housing, a poorly regulated and supported aged care system and a road system built largely for the 1980s.

    What obviously therefore does not need fixing?

    – a police force that allows loons to kill people (in red Commodores or car of choice)

    – a police force that nevertheless harasses defenceless victims incessantly

    – an education system that doesn’t educate

    – a “health system” that makes people sick

    – a legal system that imprisons the innocent

    Bill Kelty – he helped make Viktoria what it is today!

  141. egg_

    Make sure you ask @MarkMcGowanMP why he is locking up his citizens because of a virus that 99.98% of people who contract it, survive!

    Unlike the Labia Pardee.

  142. Dr Faustus

    The speculation is growing (read, people are being softened up) to the Future Fund having a domestic infrastructure minimum mandate.
    That means renewables.

    That means Big Batteries and network upgrades.
    Renewables investors have made clear that they are not in the business of providing reliable electricity. The Government’s job is provide the funding, and then step smartly out of the way of the rivers of gold stream of ‘lowest cost’ power.

  143. Top Ender

    Oregon wildfires: Woman seen holding suspected arsonist at gunpoint

    Nicely done overall.

    See how the perp goes automatically into co-operation mode, including crossing his legs at the ankles, and providing a pillow for his head, as he knows he will be there a long time. He’s done this before.

    Lady went a bit close at one point. Stay about 3 metres away.

  144. Tintarella di Luna

    Barnaby in big trouble for pulling legs in New England.

    Trending on Twitter.

    Nuts.

    what gives notafan don’t keep me in suspenders

  145. egg_

    The speculation is growing (read, people are being softened up) to the Future Fund having a domestic infrastructure minimum mandate.
    That means renewables.

    The F#cked Future Fund?

  146. mh

    Does this mean that Kaiser has jumped off the NBN gravy train?

    I expect he can ride more than one gravy train at a time.
    He’s good at it.

  147. stackja

    Minneapolis City Council alarmed by surge in crime months after voting to defund the police
    Minneapolis Police Department’s crime data shows a rise in assaults, robberies and homicides

  148. stackja

    Coronavirus ‘sexual distancing,’ decrease in STD testing sees drop in reported cases during pandemic
    CDC estimated tens of thousands of cases of chlamydia and gonorrhea have gone undetected

  149. mh

    Just heard on 4bc news that a 100 year old Melbourne man has recovered from Coronavirus.

  150. Leigh Lowe

    what gives notafan don’t keep me in suspenders

    Bananaby recorded himself “opening” a new bridge near his electorate.
    Obviously a pisstake.
    Apparently people were devastated because they thought they had missed the official opening.
    Yep.
    Really.

  151. mh

    Avi Yemini 🇦🇺🇮🇱
    @OzraeliAvi
    ·
    5m
    #BREAKING: I just filed a massive lawsuit in the Supreme Court against Victoria’s lock-down police — and I need your help urgently.

    Please RT far and wide! #StandWithAvi

  152. Bruce of Newcastle

    From feelthebern’s link to the article about Bill Kelty above. What does Bill want to fix:

    a critical shortage of public housing, a poorly regulated and supported aged care system and a road system built largely for the 1980s.

    Maybe he should have a word with the guy who locked down 11 infested public housing blocks, let maaates bring bat crud into nursing homes and refused to allow infected oldies to be transferred away to hospitals, and who spent $1.1 billion to not build a road.

  153. Zyconoclast


    feelthebern
    #3587706, posted on September 17, 2020 at 7:31 am
    This Barr chap looks like snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

    Barr Tells Prosecutors to Consider Charging Violent Protesters With Sedition

    It’s over Barr the shouting.

    He is another deep state swamp creature that Trump loves to employ.

  154. Mater

    Just heard on 4bc news that a 100 year old Melbourne man has recovered from Coronavirus.

    I know a 90 year old man who tested positive, but was completely asymptomatic. Wouldn’t have known he had it if he hadn’t been tested as a routine measure.

  155. Speedbox

    Mater
    #3587751, posted on September 17, 2020 at 8:24 am

    Back in the day (anti-Springbok demos) a bag of marbles – especially Tom Bowlers – was all that was necessary.

    A few days ago on TV I saw that Vicplod and their neddys were at the market to intimidate the protesters and also noticed that the floor was hard being either concrete or bitumen. My very first thought was: marbles.

  156. Zyconoclast

    Police arrest 10 after teen died in Brisbane park baseball-bat brawl

    Death toll in Brisbane this week:-
    African gangs … 1
    Kung Flu … 0
    What is Anesthesia doing to keep Queenssslanders safe?

    Jogger on jogger crime is a white supremacist myth.

  157. mh

    Captain Ahab Andrews

    COMMENTARY
    Brought low in pursuit of a Covid whale
    The Andrews government is losing public trust — and legitimacy.

    JOHN CARROLL
    Contributor

  158. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Hey gliberals! Here’s the solution to our to our non-existent energy woes – just build a perpetual motion masheen* on top of where the Liddell Plant currently sits. By the time you get around to actually constructing the bloody thing the technology will no doubt exist, because da scientism.

    No doubt that cannon-brookes twat would be only too happy to help (by hoovering up millions of taxpayers’ $$$) …

    *These could also be used to power the poodle pyne class frog underwater coffins.

  159. Infidel Tiger

    Rep. Matt Gaetz
    @RepMattGaetz
    “We killed hundreds of thousands of people in the Middle East.

    I always say it’s the bloodiest sand anywhere in the world, and it didn’t have to be that way.

    The single worst decision our country ever made was to go into the Middle East.” –
    @realDonaldTrump

    https://mobile.twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1306354100389511179

    Spot on Don.

  160. mh

    Ten Africans will be facing court in Brisbane today charged with murder.

    If they all served 15 years, that’s 150 years of prison time that Qlders have to pay for.

  161. johanna

    Des, Gareth was a very bright fellow indeed – and his coining of a phrase that will live forever underscores that. Relevance Deprivation Syndrome.

    Having a high IQ (which Gareth had) is not necessarily related to success in politics.

  162. Eyrie

    A few days ago on TV I saw that Vicplod and their neddys were at the market to intimidate the protesters and also noticed that the floor was hard being either concrete or bitumen. My very first thought was: marbles.

    Scattered Lego blocks should be almost as good as calthrops.

  163. BrettW

    From The Daily Telegraph. Would have been better to give the job to Kerri Ann.

    Joe Hildebrand has made his next move after leaving the beleaguered breakfast show, Studio 10.

    Confidential can reveal the popular journalist and broadcaster will be signing with top rating Sydney radio station, 2GB.

    Details of his move are still being nutted out, although it is understood he will initially join John Stanley on Thursday nights from 8pm to 9pm starting Wednesday with a view to gradually increase his presence on the station as time goes on.

    “I am absolutely wrapped to be going back to radio,” Hildebrand told Confidential.

  164. Ellen of Tasmania

    This is part of an email I got today from Connor Boyack who writes the ‘Tuttle Twins’ books. Worth a look, if you want to teach kids from a free market, libertarian kind of stance.

    “A parent took to Twitter to share an experience she recently had:

    My daughter turned around yesterday to grab her charger and her teacher immediately snapped and said she needed to be facing forward at all times. I said, “Go ahead, let the computer die!” in the background and the teacher quickly apologized. Didn’t realize I sit through every class! …

    We used this series of tweets in one of our social media posts and a parent shared her opinion that, “The mass exodus of kids from government schools to unschool is an unintended consequence of media fear hype over the virus. Now there are going to be free thinking kids with an actual education who are not indoctrinated in socialist political views of liberal teachers and the establishment is terrified!”

    I don’t know that I think the public-education-powers-that-be are terrified of parents choosing education freedom—they seem too arrogant for that—but I do think it’s true that parents are opting out of this en masse. …

    Some schools—apparently unhappy with parents knowing what is going on in classrooms and then sharing their experiences on social media—have made parents sign forms agreeing to not monitor their kids online classes. This article is just one example of many which lay out the supposed reasoning.” …

    https://tuttletwins.com/email/is-it-time-to-bring-kids-home/?mc_cid=d062e6fe1a

  165. Oh come on

    How funny is the MSM’s campaign to pretend that Kamala Harris is likeable. No, she’s not. She’s a harridan who is very much like Hillary.

    You know which female candidate in the Dem primary race was likeable? Tulsi Gabbard. She never screeched, she never hectored, she was always calm and measured when speaking. The Dems hated her.

  166. Oh come on

    The speculation is growing (read, people are being softened up) to the Future Fund having a domestic infrastructure minimum mandate.
    That means renewables.

    Meh, the Future Fund pays the pensions of federal civil servants. If they want to blow their retirement investment on that crap, they can have at it.

  167. Bruce of Newcastle

    The single worst decision our country ever made was to go into the Middle East.” –
    @realDonaldTrump

    Nope.
    Going into the Middle East is fine.
    The worst decision was to stay there.

    When the kiddies do something you go in and level every useful bit of infrastructure then you leave. Doesn’t take many repetitions of this for them to find all sorts of excuses why attacking the US this Friday isn’t propitious.

  168. C.L.

    You’ve got a bunch of people charged with destroying federal property.
    Slam dunk.
    Why not ensure 100% chance of failure with a sedition charge?
    Seriously.
    Why not due some real damage to them & use the RICO laws.
    Because that would actually do something.
    It’s all a big scam.

    ‘bern, I think Barr is simply loading up the charge sheet – to include sedition.

  169. Viva

    So having time on my hands I wondered what astrologers might have to say about this year of miracles and wonders. Fellow Cats may be as surprised as me to learn the following was written in 2019.

    2020 carries some of the most potent cosmic energy we have seen in a long time and this is mainly due to the alignment of Pluto and Saturn, which peaks in January 2020.

    We may see changes in the economy, in government and politics, and the environment. We may also see changes in how we approach love, motivation, fame, and success as a society.

    As Saturn and Pluto are the main players in this energy, we may also see issues arise when it comes to power, structure, and order.

    While I don’t believe its entirely possible to predict what is exactly going to happen on a political or global level, we can look to the past to help us see what has happened under similar astrological alignments.

    2020’s energy is unique, but if we look back through world events, a common thread seems to be an abuse of power, whether this is through wars, recessions, or revolutions.

    While an “abuse of power” can manifest in many different ways and can even take on different meanings, this is a classically what we have seen.

    While there may be an abuse of power in some capacity or issues relating to an abuse of power, it also means that there is a change of power in the works as well.

    When abuse comes into play, it is only a matter of time before something is done to change, correct, or fix the situation, and hopefully, in this case, it can be resolved for the better.

    The alignments of 2020 will trickle into 2021, so who knows when we will see the major changes manifest, but the effects of whatever happens is likely to be long-lasting.

  170. Infidel Tiger

    Just heard on 4bc news that a 100 year old Melbourne man has recovered from Coronavirus.

    Got his whole life ahead of him.

    Good stuff.

  171. Roger

    How funny is the MSM’s campaign to pretend that Kamala Harris is likeable. No, she’s not. She’s a harridan who is very much like Hillary.

    That’s spelled Harriden.

    As in a ‘Harris-Biden administration.’

    h/t mh

  172. Eyrie

    ‘bern, I think Barr is simply loading up the charge sheet – to include sedition.

    Plea bargaining. Plead guilty to this which gets 5 years in Club Fed or we might find you guilty on a charge that gets you forever in Club Fed.

  173. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    17th September, 1944. Start of Operation Market Garden, and the battles of Arnhem/Nijmegen. Whether it was a rotten plan, doomed to failure from the start, or the best chance of forestalling the Ivans to Berlin, and ending World War Two in 1944 is still a topic of discussion among serious military historians.

  174. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    It’s quite common in public places these days to see a small hut on a bench or post that acts as a book exchange. You put your unwanted books in and take out anything that interests you. Recently, I picked up a new copy of a self-help sort of book, which I normally wouldn’t do. It was called ‘A Good Death, a compassionate and practical guide to prepare for the end of life’, by Margaret Rice. It seemed unread, published in 2019, by Murdoch Press, part of Allen and Unwin, so it was Australian. When I got it home I put it in the back of a bookshelf and wondered why on earth I had picked it up, as no-one else seemed to have even opened it and I too realised I had an almost superstitious dread of expressing any interest in its topic. So there it has lingered for some months. Scroll on now, those who as I did then still wish to leave it on the shelf.

    On Monday, I read it and I do recommend it to all Cats when they are ready for its information, because it is not preachy nor gloomy and it is very useful for something like I went through this last weekend as well as offering food for later thought about oneself. It is divided into two sections, Part 1 called ‘Being there for someone who is dying’, and Part two ‘When your own time comes’. The blurb on the back tells well what it is in it:

    When her own mother died, Margaret Rice realised how completely unprepared she and her family had been for the experience of companioning a loved one who is drying. So she decided to go in e=search of the information she couldn’t find when she most needed it and write the book herself – a novice’s guide to death.

    We live in a period of intense death denial. But what if we were to smash that taboo and ask questions we want answered, like how do we know when someone is close to drying and how to we best care for them? What actually happens to our body when we die? How do we work with medical experts? How do we deal with the non-medical issues that will come up, such as wills, finances and ever social media passwords? Is morphine used to nudge death along or is this just a myth? Where do questions about euthanasia fit in with personal, lived experience?

    Margaret Rice lifts the lid on the taboos that surround death, sharing practical information and compassionate advice from multiple sources to break down boundaries and offer better choices of care to suit individual needs. This is a book to help the dying and their carers feels less isolated, and help us all face death better.”

    The author is a journalist and sub-editor specialising as a medical writer. The book covers a very wide field, drawing on anthropology and history in order to culturally situate death and dying. There are many personal reports of experiences companioning the dying in hospitals, nursing homes, at home, and after an accidental death showing the process and aftermath that families experienced.

    Much that we do, as I have found with the dying of my mother and now my brother, is intuitive, and we should not lose that immediacy which comes from the heart. But more information is always useful. This book also contains at the conclusion a very comprehensive set of references and resources to further information one may wish to find that arises from the chapter by chapter discussions. Rice’s book is thoroughly recommended by a Professor of Intensive care at the UNSW. A black raven guides each chapter; a symbol redolent to me of a very ancient tradition.

  175. calli

    That’s spelled Harriden.

    As in a ‘Harris-Biden administration.’

    Perfect.

  176. Arky

    I’m not sure God is a “Progressive Catholic”.

    ..
    Don’t be thick.
    God is Presbyterian.

  177. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Oh dear, typo’s. Search, not e=search, and also at one word, it is obviously dying not drying.
    Please excuse my poor proofing.

  178. Cats, forgive me; I have control-f-searched but I have not scrolled back.
    ScoMao, in the Oz…

    “Solar panels and wind farms are now clearly commercially viable and have graduated from the need for government subsidies and the market has stepped up to invest.”

    Kaboom!
    Does this mean he’ll now be offed by Big Renewables, Abbott-style?

  179. Bundyrum

    Another cost for the 10 Africans in Brisbane is we get to pay for all legal fees both prosecution & defence & we all know the lawyer grubs will drag it for months with the assistance of the soshul workers & associated hangers on all on the taxpayer tit.
    My solution is deport them all including their families & stop importing anymore from that stoneage continent.
    Am I too harsh?

  180. Cassie of Sydney

    I’d love to know how the “fans of Marxist Dan” on various social media sewers are treating Mr Sanjeev Sabhlok. After all, Sanjeev clearly isn’t of white Anglo-Saxon stock…mind you…he’s still a male so perhaps they’ll focus on that to denigrate him.

  181. rickw

    Just heard on 4bc news that a 100 year old Melbourne man has recovered from Coronavirus.

    Got his whole life ahead of him.

    Good stuff.

    What sneaky bugger was giving him hydroxychloroqine on the side?!

  182. C.L.

    Interesting summary of Rice’s book, Lizzie.
    Thank you.

    With my Mum (especially), I intuitively knew she was soon to die. I think a lot of what happens becomes intuitive for you, the companion, actually.

    I roll my eyes whenever I hear an Andrew Denton or a Daniel Andrews regale the world with their sob stories about how the ‘difficult’ death of a parent (fathers in these two cases) made them staunch assisted suicide advocates. What they really are is creepy, narcissistic weaklings.

  183. rickw

    Ten Africans will be facing court in Brisbane today charged with murder.

    If they all served 15 years, that’s 150 years of prison time that Qlders have to pay for.

    C130 flight to Africa followed by deplaning at altitude would be way cheaper.

  184. Bruce of Newcastle

    Kaboom!
    Does this mean he’ll now be offed by Big Renewables, Abbott-style?

    Cardi – If he plays it right he can use the parlous state of the budget as justification to remove RET subsidies and the certificates. And blame Covid. That would be ace!

  185. Cassie of Sydney

    “What they really are is creepy, narcissistic weaklings.”

    Well said.

  186. Roger

    I roll my eyes whenever I hear an Andrew Denton or a Daniel Andrews regale the world with their sob stories about how the ‘difficult’ death of a parent (fathers in these two cases) made them staunch assisted suicide advocates.

    And yet Andrews remains blind tot he suffering he is needlessly inflicting on Victorians.

    The mark of a sociopath.

  187. Bruce of Newcastle

    Ten Africans will be facing court in Brisbane today charged with murder.
    If they all served 15 years, that’s 150 years of prison time that Qlders have to pay for.

    Give them free transgender operations. The Greens could never oppose such a humane and sensitive action. Then hand each of them their own dick preserved in a jar with formadehyde.

    Would reduce crime in the African community rather dramatically. They like their appendages.

  188. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    C130 flight to Africa followed by deplaning at altitude would be way cheaper.

    C130 “A model” flight – one way – to whatever third World African shythole they came from would be adequate.

  189. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Margaret Rice has a blog for those interested in discussing grief and grieving. I have checked it out. It’s not really my sort of thing to peruse sites like this much, but does cover some useful material from her book plus stuff on caring for the aged during the time of Covid19. It is at http://www.good-grief.com.au for any Cats who want to know more without buying her book, although the book can be purchased online there too.

  190. MemoryFault

    Does this mean he’ll now be offed by Big Renewables, Abbott-style?

    Good morning Cardimona.

    No, it means you just got told where a goodly chunk of everybody’s super is going to be “invested”.
    After all, the grubbymint only needs a few hundred billion to bail out itself and the States. The rest of those trillions have to be transferred to all the maaates somehow.

    SloMo is sticking faithfully to the script.

  191. Makka

    And yet Andrews remains blind tot he suffering he is needlessly inflicting on Victorians.

    Then again maybe he isn’t blind to it. Just getting a kick out of it. All this power he has gifted to himself, every totalitarian’s dream come true.

  192. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Then hand each of them their own dick preserved in a jar with formadehyde.

    As they get on the C130 “A” model…

  193. rugbyskier

    “I am absolutely wrapped to be going back to radio,” Hildebrand told Confidential.

    That was written in a newspaper? Any editor worth their salt should have picked up the error. It should read “I am absolutely rapt…”

  194. Speedbox

    A question for legal Cats.

    Regarding the brawl and murder of the dark-skinned person here in Brisbane. Apparently, 10 persons have been arrested and all will be charged with murder and assorted other offences.

    How can 10 people be charged with murder (unless each person is alleged to have knifed the victim, in succession)? Doesn’t the Crown have to show/prove who actually struck the fatal blow? Otherwise it is ‘attempted murder’ or even manslaughter progressing down into other lesser, albeit serious, offences.

    (unless each person is alleged to have knifed the victim, in succession)? BTW, that reminds me of a scene in Flying High. Didn’t Agatha Christie also write a story along those lines as well?

  195. mh

    Captain Daniel ‘Ahab’ Andrews chasing the Covid whale 🐋

  196. Roger

    Don’t be thick.
    God is Presbyterian.

    Wee Free, Auld Kirk or Continuing?

  197. stackja

    Candace Owens
    @RealCandaceO
    Kanye wanted me to let everyone know that his Twitter account has been locked out by the Twitter Gods.

  198. Helen

    Didn’t Agatha Christie also write a story along those lines as well?

    Murder on the Orient Express

  199. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I am a supporter of compassionate and pain-relieving support of the dying, not assisted suicide for those who decide early on they don’t want to face the end of life and which allows all sorts of pressure to be brought to bear on those who still have plenty of life left. If doctors have discretion to treat a patient for strong pain and distress once an end-of-life situation is medically and legally noted, then it is best to leave it up to individuals, their families and their medical advisers, with no special legislation required. Legislation only complicates a thousand different situations that require a thousand different ways of coping. This requires good palliative care situations which take note of a person’s Advanced Care Directives and NFR instructions as well as any current wish they may be able to indicate.

  200. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Otherwise it is ‘attempted murder’ or even manslaughter progressing down into other lesser, albeit serious, offences.

    Not in Julius Caesar’s day. They all decided to share the stabbing, share the guilt.

  201. Speedbox

    Helen
    #3587845, posted on September 17, 2020 at 10:22 am

    Oh yeah. Oops. Should’ve known that. Actually, I did – I was just testing you.

    (slinks away, head bowed, quietly muttering)

  202. A motion of no-confidence against Daniel Andrews will be tabled in the Victorian parliament today, with a vote next month, The Herald Sun reports.

    Aaaaaahahahahahaha!

  203. Roger

    How can 10 people be charged with murder (unless each person is alleged to have knifed the victim, in succession)? Doesn’t the Crown have to show/prove who actually struck the fatal blow? Otherwise it is ‘attempted murder’ or even manslaughter progressing down into other lesser, albeit serious, offences.

    Without going into the various Criminal Codes, it’s an ancient common law doctrine known as joint enterprise.

  204. maman

    Lizzie @ 9:49am

    Thank you, again 🙂 for your writing here and elsewhere.

    This book, you mention “A Good Death, a compassionate and practical guide to prepare for the end of life”, I will be purchasing multiple copies to send to the Aged Care Home where my mother survives.

    From what you have described, this book will be very, very useful in really drawing to the attention of staff, what it is like to be “an outsider” trying to support the member of their family in the “Aged Care System”. Our lack of experience in this “System”, of dying within “The System” and not at home, of dying where family responsibility to their loved one is usurped by “The System”. The conflict that arises between “The System” and the family when the realization comes that “The System” has absolute total control.

    It is horrendous to hear of the hundreds of families who have been unable to be there to support there loved ones as the end of their life comes closer. Yesterday’s Vic press conference a reporter asked Mikakos about a man who survived a car accident but sadly now is on life support in a Melbourne hospital. His mother was not allowed to be there with him to support him. Why not????

    Lizzie, after this is all over there could be a National Memorial Service to honour all the people who died without their families.

    Andrew’s keeps saying we are in a war with this virus, well soldiers, sailors and airmen are treated with more respect.

  205. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Without going into the various Criminal Codes, it’s an ancient common law doctrine known as joint enterprise.

    That’s my understanding, as well.

  206. Makka

    Vic cases – 28.
    Deaths -8

  207. stackja

    Man Installs Electric Fence to Guard Trump 2020 Sign

    A Massachusetts man installed an electric fence around the Trump 2020 sign in his front yard to keep potential thieves from stealing it.

    John Oliveria, of New Bedford, said he installed the fence because six of his Trump 2020 campaign signs have been stolen from his lawn since May, KCTV reported.

  208. MemoryFault

    So much for brunch.
    Back to work.

  209. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Got his whole life ahead of him.

    Good stuff.

    Perhaps. We are now getting more centenarians than ever before, joining forces with Sardinia where for aeons by some quirk of nature 120 year olds have been known to refer to their ‘baby brother’ turning one hundred.

    Life is for living, at any age. I wouldn’t like to tell my 99 year old aunt in Louisiana that she didn’t have much to live for after her birthday next June (she’d soon inform me I was wrong and I’d love to be there to hear her say so; she was driving till she was 98); also that centenarian who did the hundred times around his garden for the NHS. Nor Macbeth, our oldest contributor here (g’day Macbeth) who is heading up the lists right now and still has quite a lot to say about goings on on the Cat.

  210. cohenite

    Tom’s toons: rowe should have his pens stuck up his arse. The brits are fucked but boris is an easy target because he is a complete cuck. Ramirez seems to undergoing some TDS which is a shame.

  211. C.L.

    Then again maybe he isn’t blind to it. Just getting a kick out of it.

    IMO, Andrews loves the daily death conference. He believes they showcase steadfastness in the face of grim disaster. The truth is they showcase a sociopath playing the role of a man being steadfast in the face of grim disaster.

  212. Roger

    I haven’t been following that particular case closely but it can be assumed that the police have discovered a plan to kill the victim to which the ten accused subscribed. There’s a similar case before the courts in Qld which the press haeve dubbed ‘the Wilsonton Nine’, where nine people have been charged with murder in regard to the stabbing death of a woman in Toowoomba. It should be noted that in Qld murder carries a mandatory life sentence.

  213. Roger

    Then again maybe he isn’t blind to it. Just getting a kick out of it.

    Either way, he doesn’t truly comprehend it.

  214. Speedbox

    Roger
    #3587851, posted on September 17, 2020 at 10:28 am

    Thanks Roger.

    Also just found this: (my bolding)

    Murder is defined in section 302 of the Code as the wilful killing of a person either intentionally, or with reckless indifference. A person will be deemed to have killed another person if they cause the death of another either directly, or indirectly, by whatever means. A person can also be deemed to have killed another person if, by using threats or intimidation, they cause that other person to do an act which results in their death.

    If a person is convicted of murder, the punishment is life imprisonment, which cannot be mitigated, or varied. An ‘indefinite sentence’ under part 10 of the Penalties and Sentences Act 1992 (Qld) may also be imposed. This means that the sentence will continue until a court discharges it and releases the person.

    Clarity. Wasn’t aware of the reckless indifference. I thought intent was a constant prerequisite otherwise manslaughter.

  215. Dr Faustus

    In The Very Relevant Mr K Rudd news:

    Kevin [email protected]
    Palmer is crossing a dangerous line by bullying QLD’s Chief Medical Officer in ads across today’s newspapers. Dr Young has already received death threats. Palmer is simply a giant bully. His mates Frecklington and Morrison must tell him to stop, otherwise they are complicit.

    [Warning: Contains images some people may find disturbing.]

  216. Bruce of Newcastle

    John Oliveria, of New Bedford, said he installed the fence because six of his Trump 2020 campaign signs have been stolen from his lawn since May

    No one ever seems to steal Harris/Biden signs.
    Ok I admit they’re pretty rare.

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