Tuesday Forum: September 15, 2020

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  1. Roger

    Wasn’t aware of the reckless indifference. I thought intent was a constant prerequisite otherwise manslaughter.

    In reckless indifference the accused is judged to have foreseen that their actions would cause death but carried on regardless. Tantamount to intent then.

  2. liliana

    Ten Africans will be facing court in Brisbane today charged with murder

    I wonder if people ever consider the true cost of multiculturalism ie the social and cultural implications as well as financial costs. I look back at the Australia I grew up in and what is has become and I do not see ‘progress’. If fact I challenge anyone to define the change in Australia over the last three decades as ‘progress’. Our relatively high trust cohesive society is breaking down and almost no one with a public voice willing to address the elephant in room.

  3. Bruce of Newcastle

    Someone please ask Mr Rudd if he thinks the guy who oversaw four tradies’ deaths installing shonky roof insulation is also “complicit”.

  4. Makka

    Either way, he doesn’t truly comprehend it.

    As a decent person Rog, I think you are being too generous.

    If I consider all the VikPol brutality, the Govt edicts which are still coming (detaining people who don’t agree with Vic Health) and Andrews own callous and dismissive behavior, I’m pretty certain he comprehends everything he’s inflicting.He is enjoying the unfettered power and notoriety. He’s pissing off his enemies no end. Let’s remember, Andrews is a very shrewd operator. He is no fool.

  5. Roger

    In The Very Relevant Mr K Rudd news

    Headline in my news feed yesterday:

    ‘How Kevin Rudd Would Defuse the China Crisis’ (or along those lines, I didn’t bother to click).

    If nothing else, he’s very adept at self-promotion.

  6. dover_beach

    I roll my eyes whenever I hear an Andrew Denton or a Daniel Andrews regale the world with their sob stories about how the ‘difficult’ death of a parent (fathers in these two cases) made them staunch assisted suicide advocates. What they really are is creepy, narcissistic weaklings.

    Indeed, they are simply responding to their own difficulties as companions. Tolkien had Gimli utter these salient words: Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.

  7. stackja

    Nolte: BLM Riots Are Officially the Most Costly Manmade Damage to American Property in History

  8. Roger

    I’m pretty certain he comprehends everything he’s inflicting.

    Sure, he knows it Makka, but he doesn’t feel it, described in the literature as a lack of empathy or remorse.

  9. 1735099

    “I am absolutely wrapped“
    Put that down to voice activated software.
    Happens all the time with text on TV programs.
    Editors as a rule don’t have time to check.
    Grammar and speech errors are a non-issue compared with the other rubbish that gets through because the editors don’t have time to fact check which is a far bigger issue, especially in the term of Dettol Donny.
    Latest example is when he described COVID deaths in US as “less than Europe“. The per capita rate shows an infection rate almost twice the EU.

  10. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Yesterday’s Vic press conference a reporter asked Mikakos about a man who survived a car accident but sadly now is on life support in a Melbourne hospital. His mother was not allowed to be there with him to support him. Why not????

    Maman, yes, the book does give helpful ways in which to deal with the administrative problems you’ll meet supporting a family member in hospital and especially in aged care. My brother was in ICU on a ventilator for a week before our family meeting was called for last Saturday. His was was allowed in to see him, no PPE other than a mask, but no-one else allowed bedside, even though when one day his wife was too ill to come their eldest son asked if he could take her place that day – but no – no substitutions. Rather an extreme form of infection control, imho. Then, once the end-of-life decision was made, all restrictions were lifted. This was clearly a legal matter rather than an infection control one, as we were all walking freely in and out of the ICU past many beds of drawn and open curtains to the separate side room in which he was placed. Once in there no-one seemed bothered that all of us took our masks off the better to speak to him as he lay insensate but aware. It was only the dear freaked-out teenage grandkids who were still clinging desperately to having their masks on; we sent these kids home when things started to get a bit rough for our brother; grown-up stuff only, and even I am still waking at 5am processing those last desperate hours of his when, because it was late and doctors were scarce, the morphine became insufficient. Rice’s book emphasises how important it is to use plenty of morphine, to the limit for pain relief, and that it does not usually advance death unnaturally. This is, of course, the point of fine medico-legal judgement. My brother’s youngest son, of adult age, ADD/Spectrum, was at this late stage urgently saying to me through his sobs sotto voce Aunty, Aunty, get him more, get him more. Agreeing, we harried and hurried the staff till they came with the higher dose he should have been receiving for a few hours already.

    The inhuman bureaucratic regulations being inflicted on the dying and their families in Victoria and Queensland, as well as the police brutality in Victoria, makes me ashamed to be Australian.

  11. Makka

    Agree Roger. He has no feeling for Victorians (unless they support him fully) whatsoever. It’s a full on narcissistic power trip we are watching IMO.

  12. Roger

    Being a Queenslander I’ve had the luxury of not bothering with Andrews much (why would you?), but his comment that there was no cultural problem in VicPol after the mentally ill man was rammed and kicked in the head while on the ground crystallised my view of him. What Steve Kates takes for stupidity is actually something much more sinister.

  13. Roger

    The African killers at the CM

    You’re not in Africa anymore, boys.

  14. Bundyrum

    Roger, they bring Africa with them.

  15. Makka

    What Steve Kates takes for stupidity is actually something much more sinister.

    + 1.

  16. Bruce of Newcastle

    Latest example is when he described COVID deaths in US as “less than Europe“. The per capita rate shows an infection rate almost twice the EU.

    What would we be without Numbers as our fact checker?

    Europe covid deaths: 216,296
    US covid deaths: 195,053

    I’m amused that a teacher (a) can’t understand English and (b) also can’t understand arithmetic.
    No wonder our kids are so poor in literacy and numeracy.

  17. Franx

    Dan Andrews’s father died a good death. So said Dan – yet this did not stop him from pretending otherwise when abetting euthanasia. In this as in other things he has hoodwinked the people into thinking that his politics are principled.

  18. mh

    You can take the boy out of Africa, but you can’t take Africa out of the boy.

  19. Geriatric Mayfly

    The African killers at the CM
    You’re not in Africa anymore, boys.

    But I bet we are all taken on a journey back there. Refugee camps, boy soldiers, lives of horror, endless trauma so deeply ingrained, that cultural adjustment in a peaceful environment would be demanding too much.

  20. dover_beach

    I am a supporter of compassionate and pain-relieving support of the dying, not assisted suicide for those who decide early on they don’t want to face the end of life and which allows all sorts of pressure to be brought to bear on those who still have plenty of life left. If doctors have discretion to treat a patient for strong pain and distress once an end-of-life situation is medically and legally noted, then it is best to leave it up to individuals, their families and their medical advisers, with no special legislation required.

    This is in fact the right road and entirely compatiable with the sanctity of life. The problem in the current debate is that proponents of euthanasia want to pretend that there is no difference between easing pain that may incidentally shorten life and deliberately injecting someone with toxins in order to end their life. They have also spent a lot of effort running down the efficacy of palliative care which has improved markedly in the last 30 years. Their entire effort involves normalizing the practice of ‘taking lives’ as opposed to ‘saving lives’ as an everyday part of the practice of medicine even though it contradicts the first and preeminent maxim of medicine, First, do no harm.

    BTW, it is ironic that the oath involves both the refusal to harm, to provide poison to a patient if requested or even offer it, and to never procure an abortion, medically or surgically. Pagan Greece was more closely aligned, morally speakingm at least on these matters with Christendom, than 21st Century Australia.

  21. Speedbox

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #3587897, posted on September 17, 2020 at 11:24 am

    You could put your house on that one.

  22. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Refugee camps, boy soldiers, lives of horror, endless trauma so deeply ingrained, that cultural adjustment in a peaceful environment would be demanding too much.

    How did any Holocaust survivors ever adapt?

  23. liliana

    But I bet we are all taken on a journey back there. Refugee camps, boy soldiers, lives of horror, endless trauma so deeply ingrained, that cultural adjustment in a peaceful environment would be demanding too much.

    Exactly, it will be a full on sob story of epic proportions and anyone who thinks differently is a r ac ist. Any thing not to make them accountable for the choices they made.

  24. Bruce of Newcastle

    Dan the Man has a “ring of steel” around Melbourne to stop the plebs from getting out.

    Melbourne’s ‘ring of steel’ blasted as regional restrictions ease

    I wonder if that is anything like a “curtain of iron” which also was designed to stop people escaping?
    History rhymes, or at least has alloying elements added to it.

  25. notafan

    Probably mostly born here.

    ‘Intergenerational suffering ‘

  26. Some History

    Ring of Steel

    Ring of Steal

  27. Dr Faustus

    The Palacechook Plan to Recover From Covid-19 has just dropped in my letterbox.

    The Cunning Plan on one side of A4:

    – Creating jobs for Queenslanders – $51 billion in maaates infrastructure projects to “future proof” Queensland;
    – Supporting Queensland businesses – $200 million “of funding“;
    – Rebuilding Queensland Manufacturing – not specified “helping make sure Queenslanders make the products that Queensland needs”.

    The products that Queensland needs? Sunscreen? Air conditioners? Mozzie spray?

    Sorry Australia, looks like we’re going it alone…
    #killmenow
    #evencloivewouldbebetter

  28. mh

    Tailgunner
    #3587904, posted on September 17, 2020 at 11:34 am
    Anyone outside Yarragrad, watch this shit.
    Ya’ll have no idea what’s going on down here.

    Hey, it’s a fair cop.
    He was driving a car on the Highway.

  29. Speedbox

    The Palacechook Plan to Recover From Covid-19 has just dropped in my letterbox.

    Who writes that dribble? Future proof? What a stupid phrase. I see on the website this gem:

    $23 million renewable energy training facility – providing $17 million to support industry to build a state of the art facility in Brisbane that provides world class training for solar and renewable energy.

    What’s a few extra million in north of $50 billion of assorted promises. Just add it to the existing bill. FFS.

  30. I loved how he went Full Nolezy on them!
    Great work that man!
    🤣🤣😡😡

  31. Anne

    “PaedophiIe Protectors!!!”😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    https://twitter.com/aussieval10/status/1306381245220179968?s=21

    Bleary-eyed Victorians about to get a dose of WTH!

  32. Zyconoclast

    Meanwhile in boondoggle central


    ‘Unlocking new tech’: $1.9 billion for low-emission energy projects

    A $1.9 billion investment in next-generation energy technologies will target Australia’s emissions-intensive manufacturing, transport and agriculture sectors to meet the federal government’s aim to reach net-zero emissions in the second half of the century.
    Prime Minister Scott Morrison will on Thursday commit an extra $1.62 billion for the Australian Renewable Energy Agency, as well as promise to expand the focus of the Clean Energy Finance Corporation to invest in new and emerging energy sources, including carbon-neutral and negative emissions technologies.

    The reforms will enable both agencies to support the creation of a hydrogen industry, as well as invest in technologies like soil carbon sequestration, production of low carbon steel and aluminium, as well as reducing emissions from industry.

    Mr Morrison said solar panels and wind farms were now “clearly commercially viable” and the future deployment of mature technologies would primarily be driven by private sector investment.

  33. dover_beach

    Claire Lehmann
    @clairlemon
    Level 1:
    The creepy conservative obsession with ped#$hilia is just bizarre. It reminds me of the feminist obsession with rape. Yes, sex offending is real, & it’s awful. But imagine choosing to spend your time fixating on it..?

    The response of liberals to this is worrying but typical. Conservatives raising any moral issue will always be described as ‘obsessed’. Whether its abortion, surrogacy, marriage redefinition, transgenderism, and so on, at some point in the discussion conservatives will invariably be described as ‘obsessed’ by liberals who for this or that reason because they are either unconcerned or actually for the matter being criticized.

  34. Geriatric Mayfly

    – Rebuilding Queensland Manufacturing – not specified

    And with labels affixed ‘Made in Queensland’ even China will feel the squeeze.

  35. Boambee John

    Editors as a rule don’t have time to check.
    Grammar and speech errors are a non-issue compared with the other

    The pompous, pedantic, pedanty (sic), pedant now says that “grammar and speech errors are a non-issue”!

    Fire all editors instantly!

  36. Macbeth

    Gday Lizzie. Good to be remembered. I don’t come here often. Can’t be bothered taking issue with the smart Alec types infesting the blog. Solitary living tends to make you grumpy anyway.
    Cheers

  37. Geriatric Mayfly

    The pompous, pedantic, pedanty (sic), pedant now says that “grammar and speech errors are a non-issue”!

    The losers in a US litigation didn’t think so. Millions of dollars forfeit over a disputed comma in a contract.

  38. Cassie of Sydney

    “The creepy conservative obsession with ped#$hilia is just bizarre. It reminds me of the feminist obsession with rape. Yes, sex offending is real, & it’s awful. But imagine choosing to spend your time fixating on it..?”

    Really Claire, it wasn’t “conservatives” who obsess about peterfilia in the Catholic Church and every other religion on the planet apart from the one religious ideology where there is a lot of it and it wasn’t “conservatives” who persecuted an innocent man named Cardinal George Pell (7-0 upon him).

  39. mh

    Tailgunner
    #3587926, posted on September 17, 2020 at 11:59 am
    Nolezy vs VikPol!

    He’s good.

  40. Boambee John

    Bruce of N

    The per capita rate shows an infection rate almost twice the EU.

    What would we be without Numbers as our fact checker?

    Europe covid deaths: 216,296
    US covid deaths: 195,053

    I’m amused that a teacher (a) can’t understand English and (b) also can’t understand arithmetic.
    No wonder our kids are so poor in literacy and numeracy.

    The bin chicken is either completely stupid, or was deliberately, and with malice, changing the exact meaning of Trump’s statement for base political purposes.

    While the stupid option has come credibility, I favour the malicious explanation, it fits in with standard fascist left tactics.

  41. Haha, missed it by THAT much, Anne!
    🤣🤙
    Look up and check my witches of the Cabal link.
    Any idea who the Father could be???

  42. Bruce of Newcastle

    Here you go Gunner:

    Satanists and Witches for Biden (Daniel Greenfield, 14 Sep)

    Like all progressive groups, The Satanic Temple came out in support of Black Lives Matter.

    The Satanic Temple, which distinguishes itself from its rival, The Church of Satan, through its rigorously progressive politics while accusing The Church of Satan of libertarianism

    Splittists!

    Steve Hill ran in a Democrat State Senate primary as the first Satanist to seek public office. While he lost, the Satanist and Bernie Sanders supporter was able to secure over 10,000 votes from California Democrats. Since then, Hill has participated in a Black Lives Matter rally and one comment noted the “solidarity between Black Lives Matter and Satanists.”

    Hill had mentioned reaching out to the Sanders campaign, but was cautious, noting, “I don’t know how they’ll react to getting an offer of help from Satan.”

    Maybe he should’ve invoked the name “Stalin” instead.

    “We are going to disrupt, distort, destroy,” Jex Blackmore, the former national spokeswoman for the Satanic Temple, declared while surrounded by pig’s heads. “We are going to storm press conferences, kidnap an executive, release snakes in the governor’s mansion, execute the president.”

    Any snake that bites Trump would die horribly.

    In 2017, thousands of Wiccans or Witches announced that they were casting a mass spell against President Trump.

    My understanding is they still are, on the waning moon each month. Doesn’t seem to be working. Been good for recruitment though.

    “Trump’s Presidency Has Spawned a New Generation of Witches,” Wired claimed.

    “Within hours of Trump being declared president, our membership numbers really spiked,” Lucian Greaves of The Satanic Temple has insisted.

    Good luck kiddies when the big black guy with the scythe comes to see you.

  43. mh

    COVID HIT

    NZ economy shrinks by record 12.2%
    The New Zealand economy’s second quarter contraction compares to 7pc in Australia, where lockdowns have been less strict.
    By STEPHEN WRIGHT

  44. Witches are fine.

    Churchill was a druid and he liberated Rome, Reims, Cologne and protected Lambeth Palace.

    The church of Satan are just atheist trolls with libertarian tendencies.

    The temple of Satan seems like a bunch of Grifter’s and socialists.

    Discordianism and the cult of Kek however, are truly cultured for bona fide men of culture.

  45. Gab

    Dot, you really have no idea.

  46. 1735099

    No wonder our kids are so poor in literacy and numeracy

    You’re the one with the literacy issues.
    Trump has an has an extremely flexible definition of “Europe”.
    The fact remains that the USA continues to be the country with the highest number of deaths worldwide, at over 200000.
    This, in the country which is assumed to be the leader of the free world.
    Somehow Dettol Donny has overlooked this small fact.
    It’s health system is atrocious.

  47. mh

    Craig Emerson
    @DrCraigEmerson
    ·
    14h
    OK I’m going to say it: I’m fearful of a right-wing takeover of Australia. We live in scary times. The hard right identifies anyone on the progressive side as nasty “woke” “globalist” “warmists” who threaten Australia. The Murdoch media enables and promotes it. They are winning.

  48. vlad

    Craig Emerson
    @DrCraigEmerson
    ·
    14h
    OK I’m going to say it: I’m fearful of a right-wing takeover of Australia. We live in scary times. The hard right identifies anyone on the progressive side as nasty “woke” “globalist” “warmists” who threaten Australia. The Murdoch media enables and promotes it. They are winning.

    He’s deranged.

  49. notafan

    Funny how people who are never here pop up when their names are mentioned 🤔

  50. calli

    I’m fearful of a right-wing takeover of Australia.

    Roll over an go back to sleep. All will be well, you poor fwightened little man.

  51. vlad

    He’s also a nasty woke globalist warmist who threatens Australia. And he’s winning.

  52. notafan

    Emerson

    Murdoch derangement syndrome confirmed.

  53. Bruce of Newcastle

    Haha, Numbers can’t do geography either. How many years have been teaching kids? Poor things.

  54. The Satanic Temple, which distinguishes itself from its rival, The Church of Satan, through its rigorously progressive politics while accusing The Church of Satan of libertarianism

    Haha, thanks Bruce!
    Dot, get in here and explain this schism, pronto!

  55. Witches are fine.

    Too high on the hot/crazy matrix.
    Everyone knows this.
    Damn dangerous too. Take it from one who knows!

  56. Tom

    Watch it before it’s censored: Tucker Carlson Tonight on the Chinese Communist Party’s deliberate invention and dissemination of Kung Flu in a government lab in Wuhan and Big Tech’s censorship of everything that doesn’t toe the Democratic Party line, including the origins of Kung Flu and the best drugs to fight it.

  57. Bruce of Newcastle

    Tom – I think the development was deliberate, in accordance with her paper, but I think the dissemination was accidental due to poor lab practices. But once the regime realized what happened they clearly decided to use the situation for their own strategic aims, since they walled off Wuhan internally but continued to allow international flights from that airport for several weeks.

    I wouldn’t sell insurance to the virologist lady though. She’s in deep doo doo, as normally the FBI are tasked with protecting such as her.

  58. incoherent rambler

    Constraints on attendance at funerals and attending to loved ones in hospital, palliative or aged care is a vicious and unnecessary “rule”.

    For this alone, I pray that Reichsfuhrer Andrews suffers as much as those he has hurt.
    I trust that Hell awaits him.

  59. maman

    Lizzie and Dover_Beach, you have both expressed so eloquently and with compassion and love what needs to be said to the people who operate “The System”. Ordinary people can find themselves so out of their depth trying to support a family member when that person enters aged care, your words give heart and practical

    🙂 As do the words of the teaching nun who stood 5′ nothing, but carried the presence of a 6’6″ rugby player. 🙂 This is what she said about visiting family in aged care: “Are you listening Maureen? You’ve got to visit everyday Maureen, at anytime. Do you understand Maureen?” (names have been changed to protect the admonished). 3 copies on order.

  60. Anne

    Gunner at 11:59.

    Hilarious and that was from 3 years ago!

    We are watching a movie! – Q

  61. Feelthebern:

    “We have got financial parameters in which the game has fundamentally changed,” Mr Kelty told The Age. “You have trillions of dollars in superannuation ready to invest in infrastructure. You have got the governor of the Reserve Bank saying ‘state governments, please spend money’.

    They’re not even trying to hide it. The government will hand over “Infrastructure Bonds” backed with your life’s savings to build more solar farms, water desalinators, and windmills.
    It will be a troughrush of epic scale as the unions/spivs/and conmen fight for a place in the queue.
    Australia, squandermonkey paradise.

  62. MatrixTransform

    I’m amused that a teacher (a) can’t understand English and (b) also can’t understand arithmetic

    BoN, both those dimensions are externally tested now for teacing accreditation.

    hopefully that will keep some of the weeds down

  63. Anne

    Haha, missed it by THAT much, Anne!
    🤣🤙
    Look up and check my witches of the Cabal link.
    Any idea who the Father could be???

    They’re all Rothschild spawn, Gunner, and they’re all men.

  64. cohenite

    The troll putting up, again, it’s disgusting lies:

    Latest example is when he described COVID deaths in US as “less than Europe“. The per capita rate shows an infection rate almost twice the EU.

    The case-fatality ratio in the US is 3.3%, 24th in the world and well ahead of the EU rate:

    https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/08/05/899365887/charts-how-the-u-s-ranks-on-covid-19-deaths-per-capita-and-by-case-count

    As a matter of interest the case-fatality ratio in victoristan is 27:

    https://www.health.gov.au/news/health-alerts/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-health-alert/coronavirus-covid-19-current-situation-and-case-numbers

    I think we all should chip in to send the troll to victoristan and he could report back from melbournistan.

  65. They’re not even trying to hide it. The government will hand over “Infrastructure Bonds” backed with your life’s savings to build more solar farms, water desalinators, and windmills.
    It will be a troughrush of epic scale as the unions/spivs/and conmen fight for a place in the queue.
    Australia, squandermonkey paradise.

    As opposed to Morrison building a government-owned gas power station.

  66. dover_beach

    OK I’m going to say it: I’m fearful of a right-wing takeover of Australia. We live in scary times. The hard right…

    The ‘hard right’ includes anyone that believes women have vaginas, that marriage is a relation between the sexes, that people ought to be able to work in order to provide shelter, food, etc. for themselves and their family and can only be curtailed, temporarily only in the most grave circumstances, that silencing or hindering the communication of ideas that are contestable and in the public interest is wrong, and so on. Positions that are mere 20 years ago were common coin. This is where we are, so forgive my cynicism when Claire Lehmann tells me that conservatives are ‘obsessed’ when may have whistled past some of issues 10 years ago.

  67. Bruce of Newcastle

    As opposed to Morrison building a government-owned gas power station.

    LOL. M0nty obviously doesn’t understand electrical engineering and grid balancing and control.

  68. Monty! Good to see you back.
    Can you believe it’s only 47 days til MAGA Unleashed?
    Fire up, xunt!
    Will Joe turn up to the first Debate??
    Sinc – will we have a dedicated Debate thread?

  69. They’re all Rothschild spawn

    My thoughts too.
    All dudes? Ewwww

  70. cohenite

    As opposed to Morrison building a government-owned gas power station.

    He could hook your arse up and have a perpetual gas supply.

  71. Cassie of Sydney

    “dover_beach
    #3588001, posted on September 17, 2020 at 1:02 pm

    The ‘hard right’ includes anyone that believes women have vaginas, that marriage is a relation between the sexes, that people ought to be able to work in order to provide shelter, food, etc. for themselves and their family and can only be curtailed, temporarily only in the most grave circumstances, that silencing or hindering the communication of ideas that are contestable and in the public interest is wrong, and so on. Positions that are mere 20 years ago were common coin. This is where we are, so forgive my cynicism when Claire Lehmann tells me that conservatives are ‘obsessed’ when may have whistled past some of issues 10 years ago.”

    Bravo DB.

  72. cohenite

    Top Ender
    #3588007, posted on September 17, 2020 at 1:10 pm
    Grim reading:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8741139/Inquest-investigates-sad-suicides-three-Aboriginal-teenage-girls.html

    Grist for the mill, but don’t worry the feminists and BLM will be all over this.

  73. OCO;

    Meh, the Future Fund pays the pensions of federal civil servants.

    You mean there is still money in it?
    Gadzooks, my good man.

  74. Boambee John

    As opposed to Morrison building a government-owned gas power station.

    So, m0nty thinks that a gas power station that will reliably deliver electricity in all conditions is less useful than solar (daylight only) and wind (favourable wind conditions only, subject to extended periods of uselessness regularly).

    Have you invested all of your super in solar and wind m0nty? Now is the time to get in, before the big super funds grab all the best investment opportunities.

    Get some skin in the s and w game, then get back to us. Honestly, your long period in the basement has destroyed what little trolling ability you had.

    Any word from lefty US blogs yet on the obstruction of justice cases against Mueller’s mob about deleting data from official phones? Tick, tick, tick, …

  75. Bundyrum:

    My solution is deport them all including their families & stop importing anymore from that stoneage continent.
    Am I too harsh?

    I’m curious as to where you get your compassion from.

  76. rickw:

    C130 flight to Africa followed by deplaning at altitude would be way cheaper.

    I notice you didn’t mention the option of parachutes.
    Good man.

  77. egg_

    My solution is deport them all including their families & stop importing anymore from that stoneage continent.

    It must be novel for 1st Gen STEM sh1tholers applying Western Standards of Quality & Safety in the workplace.

  78. Can you believe it’s only 47 days til MAGA Unleashed?

    It’s going to be pretty boring. Trump will announce a vaccine as an October Surprise, no one will believe him, no one’s mind will change. I am yawning already.

  79. Avi is suing the hunchback, wants some donations:

    Here comes the grift, regular as clockwork.

    He’s picked his marks well, the dumbest people on the Internet.

  80. egg_

    So, m0nty thinks that a gas power station that will reliably deliver electricity in all conditions is less useful than solar (daylight only) and wind (favourable wind conditions only, subject to extended periods of uselessness regularly).

    Paco Enterprises (TM) probably has a Portfolio just for M0nty – replete with Geothermal in the Arctic circle.

    Is Whale Oil a biofuel?

  81. Anne

    Both Joe and Kamala make reference to a Harris-Biden Administration.

    This is the best movie ever! 😂

    https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1305937973842649088?s=21

  82. cohenite

    I am yawning already.

    Yawning can be a marker for neurological problems. You should go to victoristan to have it diagnosed.

  83. Helen, is that really you in the gravatar?
    Where do you get your shoes, and do you get a discount on your nails? Or does your farrier complain when you kick him in the head?
    Asking for a somewhat odd friend.

  84. egg_

    As opposed to Morrison building a government-owned gas power station.

    He could hook your arse up and have a perpetual gas supply.

    Whilst they’re busy monitoring the sewer for CV-19, they could hook up the Greentard lentil munching ‘burbs to a Gas Genny.

  85. C.L.

    IMO, Andrews loves the daily death conference. He believes they showcase steadfastness in the face of grim disaster. The truth is they showcase a sociopath playing the role of a man being steadfast in the face of grim disaster.

    A subtle difference but well spotted, CL.

  86. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    More grim reading.

    Kimberley Magistrate Colin Roberts claims majority of domestic violence attacks go unpunished by system
    Elise Van AkenThe West Australian
    Wed, 16 September 2020 8:30PM

    A magistrate says the criminal justice system is sending the terrible message it is OK to “bash your missus”, with at least 80 per cent of family violence trials in the Kimberley dropped by police because victims are too scared or disillusioned to give evidence.

    Magistrate Colin Roberts — who said in July that domestic violence had become a “national sport” in the region — told Kununurra Court last week that lawyers were now advising their clients to plead not guilty because of the high chance witnesses would not turn up to court.

    His comments came after prosecutor Sgt Neil Berkley discontinued a matter because the witness was adamant she would not go to court.

    Magistrate Roberts told the court pressure from family and the accused, whom the victim may want to stay in a relationship with, prevented disadvantaged victims from feeling confident enough to testify against their abusers.

    He said this resulted in 80 per cent of domestic violence cases — and perhaps as high as 90 per cent — being discontinued.

    “Are politicians and everyone aware of the figures? 80 per cent, I would suggest it would be even closer to 90 per cent the way it has been going,” he said.

    Are politicians and everyone aware of the figures? 80 per cent… closer to 90 per cent the way it has been going.

    “Absolutely shocking. I’m tearing my hair out. And unfortunately, any suggestions of arrest warrants for witnesses, the police, rightly or wrongly, say they don’t want to go down that road.

    “There has got to be a better system. The system is wrong. Absolutely wrong. And you can’t blame the lawyers for giving advice.”

    Sgt Berkley said police were not willing to issue warrants for witnesses to appear as it would cause victims to be less likely to call them when they were in trouble.

    “It would only take somebody to… for the worst possible thing to happen, where there will be that much criticism to the police that they’re not prepared to take that path,” he said.

  87. egg_

    Avi is suing the hunchback, wants some donations:

    Here comes the grift, regular as clockwork.

    He’s picked his marks well, the dumbest people on the Internet.

    Imagine entrusting your Bunnings BBQ takings to M0nty.

  88. amortiser

    John Oliveria, of New Bedford, said he installed the fence because six of his Trump 2020 campaign signs have been stolen from his lawn since May, KCTV reported.

    Everybody wants a Trump sign!!

  89. Mother Lode

    “The creepy conservative obsession with ped#$hilia is just bizarre. It reminds me of the feminist obsession with rape. Yes, sex offending is real, & it’s awful. But imagine choosing to spend your time fixating on it..?”

    Conservatives worry about their children and their grandchildren, nephews, nieces etc.

    They do not consider them blobs of cells up to parturition, or blobs of clay upon which a parent or teacher can press their political opinions like thumbprint patterns.

    They do not see them as a cherubic veneer on campaigns to usurp individuals’ rights or, a little later, pimpled drones to be sent in front of cameras playing in a loop slogans programmed by teachers.

    That is why conservatives feel strongly about p3d0s.

  90. Makka

    Female cop to harassed citizen in Gunners twittier link;

    “Do you have to yell at me?” Passive aggressive KarenKop.

    Fmd, 4 cops bailing up a family in their car – for driving on the highway. That is what Vic has come to. Clearly now a Police State.

  91. Roger:

    Headline in my news feed yesterday:
    ‘How Kevin Rudd Would Defuse the China Crisis’ (or along those lines, I didn’t bother to click).
    If nothing else, he’s very adept at self-promotion.

    Did anyone notice the windblown hair look he’s copied from Boris? If it’s meant to be noticed by women and arouse their maternal instincts, it ain’t working.

  92. liliana

    Craig Emerson
    @DrCraigEmerson
    ·
    14h
    OK I’m going to say it: I’m fearful of a right-wing takeover of Australia. We live in scary times. The hard right identifies anyone on the progressive side as nasty “woke” “globalist” “warmists” who threaten Australia. The Murdoch media enables and promotes it. They are winning.

    The only thing ‘progressive’ about the left is that they are progressing us towards global socialism. Emerson is right about one thing, we do indeed live in scary times. The left have shown their hand and it’s not pretty. People need to have take off their complacency blinkers and have good look what is in store for them.

  93. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Here comes the grift, regular as clockwork.

    Forty five thousand quid raised so far, monty – the objective is fifty thousand.

  94. Geriatric Mayfly

    Have the ten Q’ld multiculturalists been bailed as yet? BLM, with a few Soros shekels, could step in here in the cause of social justice.

  95. MatrixTransform

    Forty five thousand quid raised so far

    pushing 47k now

    after 50 its all fuck you m0nty … I mean money

  96. MatrixTransform

    not a goFundMe either … hilarious

  97. woolfe

    Democrats may be getting desperate as getting emails asking for $1 donation (some dumb democrat stuffed up their email address and i am getting all their emails from democrat party!)

  98. Geriatric Mayfly

    560 Pounds of Meth, Cocaine Found in Quartz Boulders at California Border

    Gold and quartz go hand in hand. And Lo! A new element of similar value has been discovered and what a mother lode it has proved to be.

  99. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Arky
    #3587613, posted on September 16, 2020 at 11:55 pm

    try to make it doctored bullshit that isn’t disproved with half a minute of research.

    That random graph from a non-authoritative source doesn’t disprove anything.
    Okay, I didn’t check the real data from the CDC before posting that link. But to the extent I can, I have now.

    http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/ss/ss6311.pdf
    The “Rate” line on page 15. It matches.
    There is only minor change during the Dubya years, then it decreases quicker after 2008.

    http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/PDF/ss/ss4911.pdf
    Page 14. The Rate line is level during Reagan and Bush and then goes into decline after Clinton takes over. It matches what the first graph claimed.

    I have not seen any other single document from the CDC that covers the whole time range of the so-called “doctored” graph. That may explain why someone felt the need to compile their own set of figures to cover the last 40 years, but it does not explain why that Johnstone graph is not reflective of the data it claims as its sources (eg CDC).
    What can be checked with the CDC matches what was shown in the first chart, so it was not doctored at all.

    People just have more sex when there is a Republican in office.
    Of course, when democrats are in, births drop, therefore, also, abortions per 1000 women 15- 44 also decline.
    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/11/27/14/21534820-7731317-image-m-16_1574865322455.jpg

    You claim that, then post a graph showing births peaking under Clinton and then taking a nosedive with Dubya’s re-election. What a clown.
    You were correct to pull me up for not checking if a graph posted in social media was authentic data before lazily passing it on, but you have not shown any greater ability to discern fact.

    to look at nationwide per female population 15 to 44 is wrong, in the graph I posted you can see the ratio of born to aborted has a constant decline

    It was not a constant decline over all time, it shot up during Carter, but it appears to be correct in the CDC documents that the ratio (per 1000 live births) has been declining constantly since at least 1984.
    You must have realised your initial claim of a “doctored graph” was bullshit because you dropped the graph-was-doctored argument very quickly and switched to the graph-was-using-the wrong-type-of-statistic-for-their-conclusion argument.
    Which I agree with. They should have used, as you say, the ratio of abortions to births.
    The people who make unwanted foetuses are a subset of the people making foetuses, and it is the unwantedness that starts the problem.

  100. Tim Neilson

    Magistrate Roberts told the court pressure from family and the accused, whom the victim may want to stay in a relationship with, prevented disadvantaged victims from feeling confident enough to testify against their abusers.

    There’s got to be a limit to society’s responsibility to waste time effort and resources on people who insist on recreating the problem as soon as it’s been temporarily solved.

  101. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Democrats may be getting desperate as getting emails asking for $1 donation (some dumb democrat stuffed up their email address and i am getting all their emails from democrat party!)

    I would happily donate ten thousand dollars to the Democrats – Zimbabwean.

  102. All of this LARPing satanic stuff does is belie the hypocrisy of politics in general but especially the modern Democrats.

    “Druids for Dwumpf”

    OH MY! TRUMP IS IN LEAGUE WITH THR DEVIL! LETS GET A RACE HUCKSTERING *BISHOP* ON HIS CASE!

  103. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    This one’s for Western Australian Cats – seems as though judgement, in the case of the Claremont serial killer, is being handed down next Thursday…24th September….

  104. Geriatric Mayfly

    “Druids for Dwumpf”
    OH MY! TRUMP IS IN LEAGUE WITH THR DEVIL! LETS GET A RACE HUCKSTERING *BISHOP* ON HIS CASE!

    Do Druids have truck with Lucifer? Old Getafix seemed to spend most of his days gathering mistletoe and the like for his potion. Fairly benign sort of chap from memory.

  105. Arky

    I have not seen any other single document from the CDC that covers the whole time range of the so-called “doctored” graph.

    ..
    You idiot.
    The graph you first posted is a truncated version of the complete graph I posted FROM THE CDC.
    Your chosen graph cherry picks from the seven odd metrics on the original CDC graph the stupid metric of women 15 to 44.
    You are an idiot.
    Don’t talk to me any more. You’re just too fucking thick to bother with.
    Piss off.

  106. Shy Ted

    1735099 #3587961, posted on September 17, 2020 at 12:28 pm
    No wonder our kids are so poor in literacy and numeracy
    You’re the one with the literacy issues.
    Trump has an has an extremely flexible definition of “Europe”.

    Poor in literacy you say? I blame the teacher.

  107. calli

    Gab has possums.

    I have crows.

    Any suggestions on eradication?

  108. Arky

    You know, you’d think when you pointed out to someone how they had been manipulated and fooled by a butchered version of a graph, they would be upset at the people trying to decieve them with bogus garbage.
    Not ‘ol thickie here though.

  109. Is @julie_4bbc real or not?

    These days, probably mate.
    It’s End Days.
    The hatred of superior white skin tone is real.
    The Cabal want a brown soup of humanity to rule over.
    Whites too good at throat slitting warfare.

  110. incoherent rambler

    Any suggestions on eradication?

    12 gauge,

  111. Johno

    What about ducks on your pool? Built up area, can’t shoot the mongrels, and besides they are kinda cute,in a non duck shag kinda way.

  112. Leigh Lowe

    Johno

    #3588082, posted on September 17, 2020 at 2:40 pm

    What about ducks on your pool? Built up area, can’t shoot the mongrels, and besides they are kinda cute,in a non duck shag kinda way.

    No shotty on the above ground pool.

  113. Johno

    In ground ,but same rules.

  114. Carpe Jugulum

    What about ducks on your pool? Built up area, can’t shoot the mongrels, and besides they are kinda cute,in a non duck shag kinda way.

    30lb Recurve or Compound Bow.

  115. Bruce of Newcastle

    Gab has possums.
    I have crows.
    Any suggestions on eradication?

    Hose. A rapidly approaching stream of deadly hydroxylic acid terrifies them.

    For crows at Cafe Bruce I have a football team worth of noisy miners. They do just fine.
    Saves on water.

  116. rickw

    Gab has possums.

    I have crows.

    Any suggestions on eradication?

    Nail gun with safety interlock overridden.

  117. rickw

    IMO, Andrews loves the daily death conference. He believes they showcase steadfastness in the face of grim disaster. The truth is they showcase a sociopath playing the role of a man being steadfast in the face of grim disaster.

    All is not right inside his head.

  118. MemoryFault

    What about ducks on your pool?

    Duckshit makes chookshit and pigshit seem positively attractive.

  119. vlad

    Someone at the start of all this said that the politicians had to get out of the way and not try and lead the response to the pandemic personally.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/our-hiv-lesson-exclude-politicians-and-trust-the-experts-and-the-people-to-confront-coronavirus-20200305-p5476a.html

    That sure didn’t happen. Dictator Dan seized on it as his “Shorten goes to Beaconsfield” opportunity to become a lefty superstar.

    From the article that was ignored:

    The lesson of HIV/AIDS is that the people, not the politicians, can be trusted to deal with coronavirus but only if they are told the truth on the basis of science and facts and by those who have and can earn their trust.

    We’re still waiting for that to happen.

  120. calli

    Oops. Useful but wrong one.

  121. vlad

    I only found this out last night, but did you know that Professor Sutton only got his professorship this year in March, ie during the pandemic, and it’s only an adjunct professorship. All true.

    Did you know he’s not an epidemiologist?

    And, finally, did you know that the discipline of epidemiology doesn’t recommend lockdowns? That they were just made up by the politicians unadvised by people who are experts in the field? That’s apparently true as well.

    So the hard fact is we’re not being guided by “the science”.

  122. Anne

    [Anne – please. I seriously do not want this stuff being posted on the Cat. Sinc]

    [A reminder of my view on these issues. Sinc]

  123. MemoryFault

    So the hard fact is we’re not being guided by “the science”.

    Oh yes we are, Vlad. It’s just not the “science” of health control, developed over many, many decades of experience and learning from previous epidemics.

    Rather it is the “science” of people, money, and political control developed by the World Economic Forum (WEF) over the last decade. Paid for by Bill and Melinda Gates and other like-minded power hungry maniacs.

  124. Knuckle Dragger

    I see mUnter has yet to get back on the meds.

  125. jupes

    I wonder if people ever consider the true cost of multiculturalism ie the social and cultural implications as well as financial costs. I look back at the Australia I grew up in and what is has become and I do not see ‘progress’. If fact I challenge anyone to define the change in Australia over the last three decades as ‘progress’. Our relatively high trust cohesive society is breaking down and almost no one with a public voice willing to address the elephant in room.

    Excellent comment liliana.

  126. Pedro the Loafer

    Krudd looks like a homeless derro.

    Has he reverted to childhood and gone back to living in a car?

  127. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3588110, posted on September 17, 2020 at 3:22 pm

    I see mUnter has yet to get back on the meds.

    Yes.
    Loves the idea of enforced donation via taxation for all sorts of “social justice”, but not overly happy with voluntary donations to someone for the purposes of testing their civil rights in court.

  128. calli

    Interesting the way the new push for banning so-called “fake news” on Covid is being framed.

    Here the ABC weaves a tale about an old, vulnerable man who is influenced by a shocking, horrible Youtube on Vitamin D and the virus. He decides to sunbathe to build up his immunity.

    Can’t have that!

    In terms of tackling the virus, when the whole community is affected by the pandemic, I think false claims can turn people complacent and discourage them from strictly following the rules on social distancing or wearing masks.

    I was devastated. I felt helpless against this video.

    Stay inside. Do not go out. The sun is dangerous.

    And Bingo! Here is the “call” for censorship:

    Governments need to take a lot more ownership over the impact fake news can have and push hard against the tech giants of the world.

    Facebook and Google and others also have an important role to play in standing up against fake news.

    They should take more responsibility for how their platforms can be used to spread false claims.

    We know already how it ends. Silencing dissent.

  129. harrys on the boat

    I am yawning already.

    You’re just opening up for Dictator Dan to park his knob in your mouth.

  130. Rex Anger

    Here comes the grift, regular as clockwork.

    He’s picked his marks well, the dumbest people on the Internet.

    Is there any way of embedding mUnted’s theme tune so it plays every time he bum-trumpets his way onto this blog?

    Fred the Oyster is far too good to waste on him (Apologies to Spike and Goon Show fans everywhere for this desecratory act of attribution…)

  131. calli

    Just read Rudd’s tweet.

    Gee Emerson and Rudd vs. da Murdochs. Today. At the same time.

    They’re not a bit subtle.

    Given Rudd’s shrill defence of Andrews, I wonder where the latter hides the negatives? And the bodies.

  132. Tim Neilson

    I only found this out last night, but did you know that Professor Sutton only got his professorship this year in March, ie during the pandemic, and it’s only an adjunct professorship. All true.

    Thanks vlad. Do you know what institution appointed him “Professor” and what discipline the “Professorship” is in?

  133. Roger

    The lesson of HIV/AIDS is that the people, not the politicians, can be trusted to deal with coronavirus but only if they are told the truth on the basis of science and facts and by those who have and can earn their trust.

    That leaves the CMOs/CHOs out of it next time we have a public health issue.

  134. Leigh Lowe

    Thanks vlad. Do you know what institution appointed him “Professor” and what discipline the “Professorship” is in?

    I think it was Kellogg University.

  135. incoherent rambler

    Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad

    If the degree of madness is an indicator, then Reichsfuhrer Andrews is going to be destroyed in a BIG way.

  136. harrys on the boat

    What LL said.

    The shit that goes on, isn’t some big conspiracy, Soros funded, Gates inspired, voodoo bullshit. Its the fucking stupidity of man. Highlighted by clowns posting twitter (FFS) posts that somehow reveal the mystery of whats REALLY going on.

  137. vlad

    Do you know what institution appointed him “Professor” and what discipline the “Professorship” is in?

    “It is interesting that in March 2020, just prior to Lockdown 1.0, Dr. Brett Sutton was handed an Adjunct Clinical Professor appointment with the Dept. of Epidemiology and Preventive Medicine, by the Vice-Chancellor of Monash University, a Level E appointment (that can only be endorsed by the VC). Level E is the highest level that can be obtained; typically reserved for appointees who have “established an international reputation in the area”. Evidently, Prof. Sutton met eligibility criteria for a Level E academic appointment, without writing more than 1 research paper within the same field of research.”

    source:
    https://www.sabhlokcity.com/

  138. Old School Conservative

    Anne
    #3588027, posted on September 17, 2020 at 1:30 pm
    Both Joe and Kamala make reference to a Harris-Biden Administration.

    I think it’s just Sleepy Joe trying to outshine everyone else in the feminism stakes.
    When he introduces Jill he stumbles over his words trying to say he is her husband, not she is his wife.
    In this instance he is putting the female first, again to show his support for feminism.

    Either way, he’s just a useful idiot.

  139. Roger

    On Wednesday night, Attorney General Bill Barr condemned the coronavirus lockdown restrictions in various states as the “greatest intrusion on civil liberties in American history” besides slavery. He also warned against turning over complex political decisions to doctors who cannot weigh all the variables…”Most of the governors do what bureaucrats always do, which is they …treat free citizens as babies that can’t take responsibility for themselves and others.”

    RTWT

  140. Tim Neilson

    vlad
    #3588145, posted on September 17, 2020 at 4:14 pm

    Thanks vlad.

    Talk about trashing the brand. It’s actually worse than Melbourne appointing “Professor” Bruce Pascoe, because Pascoe’s appointment was in a pseudo-discipline that really doesn’t matter. When a University starts trashing its own medical school it’s really going downhill.

  141. Leigh Lowe

    harrys on the boat
    #3588144, posted on September 17, 2020 at 4:12 pm
    What LL said.

    The shit that goes on, isn’t some big conspiracy, Soros funded, Gates inspired, voodoo bullshit. Its the fucking stupidity of man. Highlighted by clowns posting twitter (FFS) posts that somehow reveal the mystery of whats REALLY going on.

    There are two things Harry (albeit related).
    The Soros/Gates/WEF/OWG thing is kind of funny in a way. If people want to join non-existent dots and accuse the WEF of being like KAOS and they are living out a Kingsman movie plot, well go for it.
    It is the unfounded allegations of peter-filia against high profile figures which is really dangerous.

  142. Leigh Lowe

    No evidence.
    Just thought I’d say it.
    Free speech and all.
    Fucking idiot.

  143. vlad

    Talk about trashing the brand. It’s actually worse than Melbourne appointing “Professor” Bruce Pascoe, because Pascoe’s appointment was in a pseudo-discipline that really doesn’t matter. When a University starts trashing its own medical school it’s really going downhill.

    Hard to say which is worse. I’m not an epidemiologist either, so I can’t assess his qualifications for an adjunct professorship (which is a dodgy proposition at the best of times). His publication record may be better than suggested by the source, but there are links there.

    As for Professor Pascoe, oh, brother …

  144. harrys on the boat

    Who is this “Stand With Garvey” arse clown?

    Bill Gates is a misfit. A fucking computer nerd who spent his teenage years wanking over hard drives instead of out on the piss getting laid. Socially inept, he has no fucking idea about real life. Then he codes something that makes him a billionaire. Infinite cash but still the fucking social misfit he’s always been. His intentions are good but ultimately he’s a fuckwit, so in reality they’re a fucking disaster. No conspiracy here.

  145. incoherent rambler

    From the ABC
    Crippling sanctions, an economy in crisis, a global pandemic and a string of natural disasters. As North Korea’s leader Kim Jong-un faces crisis after crisis, his increasingly powerful sister has not been seen in public for months.
    Change 4 words in the above and we have Viktoristan.

  146. Leigh Lowe

    Stand With Garvey
    #3588150, posted on September 17, 2020 at 4:18 pm
    We want to know what the daughter was doing hanging around this fellow. Or has that been sorted out already?

    No Garvey.
    There was an explicit accusation against a former Australian Prime Minister made at the link.
    Do you want to support that?
    I don’t particularly like the guy, but I’ll stick to his policies, his performance and his many character flaws.
    But I am not about to throw vicious unproven defamatory shit around like Anne has.

  147. Leigh Lowe

    harrys on the boat
    #3588160, posted on September 17, 2020 at 4:27 pm
    Who is this “Stand With Garvey” arse clown?

    Anne’s sock puppet.

  148. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    As for Professor Pascoe, oh, brother …

    Pascoe’s whole appointment is a joke! Aborigines tilled a greater area of Australia then today’s grain farmers?
    So they invented wideline machinery and minimum till cropping?

  149. Bundyrum

    I reckon the Gestapo would have had to torture LL to shut him up.

  150. Cassie of Sydney

    I think this “Stand With Garvey” needs to be nuked.

  151. Leigh Lowe

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3588172, posted on September 17, 2020 at 4:33 pm
    I think this “Stand With Garvey” needs to be nuked.

    It is either an Anne sock or Bird.

  152. JC

    Who is responsible for starting the resident nutball on Pascoe Tourette’s. Earlier on his was an offering 10k donation – a perfect illustration of big-noting Tourette’s. I’m out a week and the imbecile’s mental illnesses come back swirling around his stupid head.. FMD.

  153. Cassie of Sydney

    “It is either an Anne sock or Bird.”

    I don’t know…but it is not “kosher”.

  154. JC

    Cassie.

    Thanks for the nice comment earlier.

  155. Cassie of Sydney

    JC
    #3588177, posted on September 17, 2020 at 4:36 pm
    Cassie.

    Thanks for the nice comment earlier.

    Always JC….and it is really good to see you.

  156. Leigh Lowe

    Oh.
    I have now watched the full video.
    Murder.
    And necrophilia.
    FFS.
    Interesting that the very official sounding “Australian Independent Press” tag on the video can’t be found anywhere else on the web.
    And the sidebar is all 1WG, “I do not consent”, yada, yada.

  157. vlad

    There’s an old saying that if there are two explanations and one is a conspiracy and the other is a stuff-up, it was probably a stuff-up.

    I doubt that someone as stupid as Dictator Dan needs funding/help from Bill Gates to have mismanaged this crisis as he has or that Gates is rubbing his hands together right now saying, Victoria is going exaactly to plaaannn …

  158. cohenite

    Hi ya head prefect; how are you after your bex and lie down.

  159. Leigh Lowe

    JC
    #3588175, posted on September 17, 2020 at 4:35 pm
    Who is responsible for starting the resident nutball on Pascoe Tourette’s.

    Probably Andrew Bolt.
    He runs with it every night.

  160. Arky

    And necrophilia.

    ..
    Dead wrong, innit?

  161. vlad

    It is either an Anne sock or Bird.

    It’s definitely the latter. I’m learning to spot the signs.

  162. Colonel Crispin Berka

    By the way, Avi has raised more than his goal of $50,000 already.
    https://www.rebelnews.com/victoria_police_lawsuit_donation

  163. Infidel Tiger

    AFP news agency
    @AFP
    · 5h
    New Zealand plunges into recession as economy shrinks record 12%

    http://u.afp.com/3a77

    Great stuff!

  164. vlad

    Avi is closing in on $60k as I type.

    The irony is we the people will be funding both sides.

  165. Leigh Lowe

    vlad
    #3588180, posted on September 17, 2020 at 4:39 pm
    There’s an old saying that if there are two explanations and one is a conspiracy and the other is a stuff-up, it was probably a stuff-up.

    Yes, Vlad.
    And no-one denies that cynical politicians will try to take advantage of a crisis to consolidate their position and/or damage an opposition, but that doesn’t make it some grand plan.
    Question.
    If this was a carefully crafted grand plan, would you fuck it up like this?

  166. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger
    #3588187, posted on September 17, 2020 at 4:43 pm
    AFP news agency
    @AFP
    · 5h
    New Zealand plunges into recession as economy shrinks record 12%

    http://u.afp.com/3a77

    Great stuff!

    What surprises me is that they are surprised.
    Their only real business is tourism and they have blown it up.

  167. Cassie of Sydney

    This morning I was in communication with Bettina Arndt. I just want to confirm that Arndt received no assistance whatsoever from the IPA during her recent lynching. In fact the IPA point blank refused to help her. She actually received more help from Toby Young in the UK and his Free Speech Union. So the organisation that supposedly spruiks free speech, liberal values and so on was MIA at a time when it should have been speaking up. Shame IPA…shame. I will not be renewing my membership.

  168. Leigh Lowe

    Arky
    #3588184, posted on September 17, 2020 at 4:41 pm
    And necrophilia.

    ..
    Dead wrong, innit?

    It is certainly dead wrong if you publish it without evidence.

  169. calli

    Dumb on stilts.

    Just stop. You have been asked to repeatedly.

    Go and poop on your own sitting room rug.

  170. Makka

    Bill Gates is a misfit. A fucking computer nerd who spent his teenage years wanking over hard drives instead of out on the piss getting laid. Socially inept, he has no fucking idea about real life.

    I think Garvey may be Bird so there’s that. But you must live in a cave Harry. Do some real research just by looking up Gates affiliations, outcomes and how his Billions influence such areas as diseases and, pharma and vaccinations. It’s out in plain site. Look at his many videos and interviews. You have to be extremely naive to think of him as just a computer geek. Far from a misfit, he’s extremely influential, has an agenda and the money to make it happen.

  171. Speedbox

    From RT:

    A new US survey brought unexpected results as nearly 11 percent of young pollsters believe the J**s were responsible for the Holocaust, amid a wider trend of shocking ignorance about the Nazi genocide. The 50-state survey on Holocaust knowledge among US Millennial and Gen Z was commissioned by the organization “Conference on J**ish Material Claims Against Germany.”

    The survey consisted of roughly 1,000 nationwide interviews, with participants selected at random, and a further 200 interviews of young adults aged 18 to 39 in each state.

    Some 63 percent of all respondents did not know that six million J**s were murdered, while 36 percent thought that “two million or fewer J**s” were killed. Roughly 48 percent of respondents couldn’t name a single concentration camp or J**ish ghetto from World War II.

    Hard to know what to say about that level of ignorance.

    https://www.rt.com/news/500812-millennials-think-j**s-caused-holocaust/

    (I had to change the naughty word in the link so it may not work – Go to RT or just replace the missing letters.)

  172. JC

    Cronkite, STFU for once, you idiot.

    Leigh, Bolt is too? LOl. At least he has a TV show reaching out to an audience. He’s not sitting in the back yard wearing a MAGA t-shirt, hoodie and a MAGA baseball cap like the resident imbecile once claimed.

  173. Cassie of Sydney

    “calli
    #3588194, posted on September 17, 2020 at 4:47 pm
    Dumb on stilts.

    Just stop. You have been asked to repeatedly.

    Go and poop on your own sitting room rug.”

    As always, Calli says it best.

  174. Bundyrum

    Cassie, another sub you won’t be renewing?
    You got balls gal.

  175. calli

    In other news, my SOTA induction cooktop went “pop” the other day. $1k to fix.

    It is now on its way to the recyclers.

    Plain old ceramic will do me just fine. I’ve had enough of high end crap.

  176. Nob

    You want professors, look up Carl Heneghan.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Heneghan

    He’s been mentioned here before but he craps all over these plodding CMO/CHO types.

    He helped set up the Oxford Centre for Evidence Based Medicine which site has loads of great links and downloads
    https://www.cebm.net/oxford-covid-19-evidence-service/

    He’s also done plenty of videos out there questioning and criticising lockdown policy and so far hasn’t been smeared or attacked much, although the guardian isn’t quite as in love with him any more.

    E.g:
    https://unherd.com/thepost/prof-carl-heneghan-can-we-trust-the-covid-19-death-numbers/

  177. calli

    I was going to add something about wall decoration but desisted.

  178. JC

    New Zealand plunges into recession as economy shrinks record 12%

    They had it coming. Hunchback is following in horse-teeth’s hoof prints. That’s even funnier.

  179. Bruce of Newcastle

    Neat.

    Hypersonic “Smart Bullet” Fired From Tank Downs Cruise Missile (16 Sep)

    The U.S. Air Force used a hyper velocity projectile (HVP), capable of traveling Mach 7.3, or about 5,600 mph, fired from an Army M109 howitzer tank, to shoot down a fast-moving cruise missile over a missile range in New Mexico.

    Main battle tanks, nevertheless a self-propelled 155 mm howitzer, are not designed to destroy fast-moving cruise missiles, suggests the HVP “smart bullet” is ground-breaking technology that could revolutionize the modern battlefield.

    HVP was initially developed in 2013 to fire out of the electromagnetic railgun. However, the Pentagon’s Strategic Capabilities Office has shifted to firing the HVP out of more conventional guns, such as common artillery pieces found on the battlefield.

    The advantage of the HVP over conventional missile defenses is a dramatic decline in cost-per-kill. Each HVP costs around $85,000, opposed to $1.5 million Tomahawk missiles, $155,000 Hellfire rockets, and or $147,000 Javelin shoulder-rocket.

    It would be rather nice if we could use our M777 howitzers as Mach 7.3 air defense weapons. Perhaps ScoMo could give Donald a buzz after the election.

  180. Cassie of Sydney

    I can’t understand this nut-job obsession with Bill Gates. Bill and Melinda Gates, through their foundation, do some great work.

  181. Cassie of Sydney

    “Bundyrum
    #3588199, posted on September 17, 2020 at 4:48 pm
    Cassie, another sub you won’t be renewing?
    You got balls gal.”

    I seem to trigger you Runnybum.

  182. Leigh Lowe

    I think Garvey may be Bird so there’s that. But you must live in a cave Harry. Do some real research just by looking up Gates affiliations

    Makka.
    Two things.
    Firstly there is the Gates/Soros/1WG thing, which I am not buying. Yes, Soros is a slippery prick but I don’t see the tight and all-encompassing conspiracy.
    Secondly there is the disgraceful video Anne linked to at 3:14, making all sorts of unfounded criminal allegations against a specific Australian public figure.

  183. Makka

    Cassie, see what the Gates Foundation accomplished in India with vax tests.

  184. jupes

    Shame IPA…shame. I will not be renewing my membership.

    Good decision Cassie.

    They have proved themselves completely useless at what they claim is their main function.

  185. calli

    LL, rather than directing others to view it, how about emailing Sinc quietly?

    The hen house knows there’s a fox here.

  186. Bundyrum

    Naw Cassie, you don’t trigger me, I just admire people who follow through on their maybe they are going to do stuff.

  187. Arky

    are not designed to destroy fast-moving cruise missiles

    ..
    By definition, cruise missiles aren’t “fast”.

  188. Makka

    Leigh,
    Yes I saw the vid. Don’t know who she is but that vid shouldn’t be here. Very dangerous for the blog.

    On the other, you’re a numpty of you think Soros isn’t an evil bastard and his money is directed at nothing good for humanity. On Gates I’ve made my thoughts known. He’s a very influential manipulative person and his involvement in this vaccine development sticks, to high heaven.

  189. Makka

    That’s “stinks” not sticks…

  190. incoherent rambler

    I can’t understand this nut-job obsession with Bill Gates …

    Those of us who have had business interactions with Gates have a most unflattering view of the man.
    Maybe it started there.
    An unpleasant person.

  191. Farmer Gez

    Bolt’s piece in The Hun has a cartoon of Andrew’s head on a Jesus figure.
    Dan styling himself as the Saviour.

    The better angle would be Christ the Redeemer.
    Offering up his life to pay for our sins.
    Dan is offering up Victorian lives to pay for his sins.

    He’s the antichrist. Not a bad effort for a Catholic.

  192. vlad

    LL, rather than directing others to view it, how about emailing Sinc quietly?

    And tell him there’s a bird infestation in progress as well. He’ll want to know.

  193. Bundyrum

    Vlad @ 5.02

    Hop to it Ben, I think emails are quiet.

  194. Bundyrum

    Vlad, anyone else he should dob in, lets get em while you are on form.

  195. Bruce of Newcastle

    Troll level: master!

    Struggling CNN Just Starts Stealing Headlines From The Babylon Bee (16 Sep, via Instapundit)

    Admittedly CNN is so obvious that just about anyone can second guess their propaganda by now. But to photoshop up a graphic and get it out 15 minutes before CNN did is awesomely magnificent.

  196. vlad

    Vlad, anyone else he should dob in,

    Well, you tell me, Bundy. Who else does the Sinc smite automatically every time he returns?

  197. Cassie of Sydney

    “Bundyrum
    #3588213, posted on September 17, 2020 at 4:54 pm
    Naw Cassie, you don’t trigger me, I just admire people who follow through on their maybe they are going to do stuff.”

    Well I do follow through Runnybum.

  198. Robber Baron

    Any more acts of police brutality against Victorians today cats?

    Is someone keeping tabs?

  199. Bundyrum

    Cassie, hope you don’t mean that about follow through when you call me runnybum?
    A change of togs maybe?

  200. caveman

    Flannery is at it again ,this time it’s {{{{{{{MEGA FIRES}}}}}}} , they cannot be destroyed they rise up from the ashes , god help us all.

  201. Leigh Lowe

    calli
    #3588212, posted on September 17, 2020 at 4:54 pm
    LL, rather than directing others to view it, how about emailing Sinc quietly?

    I have done so, but RMIT staff might be otherwise occupied today.
    But I am alerting people for two reasons:-
    1. so it is understood that this vile shit does not represent what a majority of people here think; and
    2. so that everyone understands perfectly well when I give her a merciless and relentless barrelling if she sticks her head up here again. Not interested in hearing cries of “bullying”. Once you post disgraceful shit like that, the gloves are totally off.

  202. calli

    Have they done the dedication out at Warragamba yet?

    The Tim Flannery Memorial Spillway, complete with AHD marker for sea level rise.

  203. Gab

    Hi Tal!

    First rule of 2021 – nobody speaks about 2020!

  204. Cassie of Sydney

    “A change of togs maybe?”

    What are togs? Is this QLD parlance?

  205. Leigh Lowe

    Makka
    #3588215, posted on September 17, 2020 at 4:56 pm
    Leigh,
    Yes I saw the vid. Don’t know who she is but that vid shouldn’t be here. Very dangerous for the blog.

    On the other, you’re a numpty of you think Soros isn’t an evil bastard and his money is directed at nothing good for humanity. On Gates I’ve made my thoughts known. He’s a very influential manipulative person and his involvement in this vaccine development sticks, to high heaven.

    Whoa up there Makka.
    I think Soros and his money-drops make him one of the most dangerous people on the planet.
    I am a bit with Harry about Gates. I think he is an over-zealous do-gooder with a slight Messiah complex. I don’t see him as inherently malevolent like Soros, but I can see him corner-cutting on the vax.

  206. Delta A

    LL, rather than directing others to view it, how about emailing Sinc quietly?

    I have done so

    Thanks, Leigh.

    Anne’s posts are cringe-worthy and insulting: heaven forbid that a visitor to the site might think that they are representative of Cat’s beliefs.

  207. JC

    Bruce:

    I’m a little concerned about the US spending on this weapons R&D. It’s not to suggest they shouldn’t. My concern is that they may be going for very expensive quality rather than sufficient quantity. The cost of those F35s is well over a hundred million apiece. Extraordinary. How much better are they than the F18, or to put it another way.. how much better are than say modified 3 F18s for every one F35?

  208. Wow.

    Christ the Discordian.

    “Do you think that I have come to give peace to the Earth? No, I tell you, but rather division. For henceforth in one house there will be five divided, three against two and two against three.” Luke 12:51

  209. Bundyrum

    Cassie, togs is clothes, I was referring to the worry you had followed through & may need to change some apparel.
    Runnybum.

  210. Delta A

    What are togs? Is this QLD parlance?

    It is indeed, Cassie.

    I spent the first ten years of my life in rural Queensland*. Togs are swimsuits.

    *Beautiful view through the rear vision mirror.

  211. Leigh Lowe

    A link to the woman in the offending video.
    You be the judge as to whether she is a solid source.

  212. Nick

    Lol Leigh. Which electorate is she the Green’s candidate for ?
    Wait till Faulty finds out he has another potential member

  213. JC

    Tal
    #3588234, posted on September 17, 2020 at 5:16 pm

    2021 has got to be better

    Tal!

    You’d hope right. I’m optimistic, but you should always look at the downside. And the downside is say, Hiden wins the election, who then immediately resigns and the mistress takes the top job. Meanwhile, there’s no real vax and COVID makes another move into the northern winter. We’re fucked!

    I reckon 21 is binary. It’s either a great, great year or it’s a total mess. There’s no muddling through, but I’m an optimist and think it will be great.

  214. vlad

    It’s either a great, great year or it’s a total mess. There’s no muddling through, but I’m an optimist and think it will be great.

    I’m tipping 2021 will be great for the US and a total mess in Victoria.

  215. johanna

    Hi all.

    Just checking in. A couple of things:

    (i) If you are on the lookout for several hours of excellent viewing on youtube, can I recommend the 1975 BBC mini series called Edward VII. Posted by Dee Williams. It’s a lavish costume drama of the kind they used to do so well, and while Queen Victoria (Edward’s mum) features prominently, it is the story of her eldest son, poor bugger (1841 – 1910). By all accounts it is historically fairly accurate. Nuanced script, a posse of the best British actors, if you like that kind of thing, give it a go.

    (ii) Calli or anyone else who knows about plants, specifically cymbidium orchids. I have mentioned that my housewarming present orchid has started flowering again after three years of benign neglect. Well, the flowers have finally popped open, and they are a lovely golden yellow. Thing is, when I got it the flowers were a rusty red. I realise that the corms or whatever that are flowering now are not the same as the original ones – they are new. But, how does that happen? Not complaining, just curious.

    The temp hit a tropical 22C here today – warmest day for many months.

    Spring is sprung
    Da grass is riz
    I wonder where dem boidies is?

    Da liddle boid is on da wing.
    How absoid!
    Da liddle wing is on da boid!

    Mr Dawson’s lesson on Noo Yok accents when I was in fourth class. Good teaching is never forgotten.

  216. Bruce of Newcastle

    What are togs?

    Togs are what you put in your port for baths days.
    Or at least that’s what we did in our country NSW school. 😀

  217. Sinclair Davidson

    Hi Graeme – Bye Graeme

  218. JC

    I’m tipping 2021 will be great for the US and a total mess in Victoria.

    Trump wins and the US booms. There would be no stopping that freaking economy with the orange oaf at the helm. Add in the possibility of a vax and that economy is heading to the moon.

    I wouldnn’t be surprised if the fucker lowers the corp tax rate down to 15%. That would have a magical impact because at 15% the cost of debt vs equity isn’t that great so you may have huge balance sheet movement from debt to equity.

    He may do a deal whereby debt interest is no longer debuctible so the impact would massively favor equity.

  219. Leigh Lowe

    Nick
    #3588254, posted on September 17, 2020 at 5:29 pm
    Lol Leigh. Which electorate is she the Green’s candidate for ?
    Wait till Faulty finds out he has another potential member

    Too busy for politics.
    Check the website home page … it is a Big Website too.

    Take a look through my pages to see what interests you. I offer monthly Womens healing circles, Full Moon Rituals, Pagan Sabbat celebrations, and take to the highways regularly to offer my ‘Psychic Spiritual Tours’ all over Australia & from time to time internationally.

    Psychic, Clairvoyant, Tarot, Aura, Rune, Photographic & Mediumship in person readings, are offered one on one, in Keilor East Victoria Australia, or via skype or phone from anywhere in the world.

  220. JC

    Could always be better, Tal. I had a terrible 3 weeks. That’s the talk for another time though.

  221. Gab

    Great to see you back here,JC. The rabble have let monty out of the basement.

  222. Leigh Lowe

    Thank you Sinc.
    I don’t worry much about vague 1WG Pizzagate theories, but specific unfounded allegations against individuals give me the shits.
    I don’t care who it is.
    Remember George Pell?
    And citing Bill Heffernan as a source?
    Jeez.

  223. Tal

    What’s been happening around here JC?

  224. Nick

    Check the website home page … it is a Big Website too.

    Hmmm, I’m putting two and two together on this one

  225. Sinclair Davidson

    Hi Tal

    How are you keeping? Haven’t seen you online for absolute yonks.

  226. vlad

    Togs are what you put in your port for baths days.

    Port! We never said that in Victoria – unless we were talking about port wine, port jelly or Port Melbourne.

  227. Cooliotopnotch

    Tom Sowell has a new book out. I only found out about it because he’s got a new youtube channel. He’s talking about the massive success of charter schools versus public schools. Particularly in New York. Sounds pretty fascinating.

  228. Bruce of Newcastle

    My concern is that they may be going for very expensive quality rather than sufficient quantity.

    JC – The quote I gave is self explanatory:

    Each HVP costs around $85,000, opposed to $1.5 million Tomahawk missiles, $155,000 Hellfire rockets, and or $147,000 Javelin shoulder-rocket.

    If a HVP takes out a J-20 for the price of $85,000 plus GST then the Chinese will rapidly run out of money. And pilots. Of course the fire controller would have to be able to lock on the J-20 first, which means very good radar, lidar or something.

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