American Left to the Civilised World – DROP DEAD

Vox is … actually, what is Vox?  Other than a crazy website magazine catering to the world of woke.

But get this. In Vox today about Beethoven’s 5th Symphony:

Beethoven’s Fifth Symphony starts with an anguished opening theme — dun dun dun DUNNNN — and ends with a glorious, major-key melody. Since its 1808 premiere, audiences have interpreted that progression from struggle to victory as a metaphor for Beethoven’s personal resilience in the face of his oncoming deafness.

Or rather, that’s long been the popular read among wealthy white men who embraced Beethoven and turned his symphony into a symbol of their superiority and importance. For others — women, LGBTQ+ people, people of color — Beethoven’s symphony is predominantly a reminder of classical music’s history of exclusion and elitism. One New York City classical music fan wrote in the 1840s, for example, that he wished that “all women shall be gagged by officers duly licensed for the purpose before they’re allowed to enter a concert room.”

A 180 year old quote!

It really takes talent to be so stupid.  And of course a contemporary arts education at a liberal university.

Coming soon to a university near you …. and probably funded with a Commonwealth government research grant.

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39 Responses to American Left to the Civilised World – DROP DEAD

  1. PB

    “all women shall be gagged by officers duly licensed for the purpose before they’re allowed to enter a concert room.”

    An idea whose time has returned.

  2. wal1957

    I could say ignore anything from Vox.
    Unfortunately the woke crowd get a lot of their guidance from this site.
    Without the grievance industry Vox would not exist.

  3. H B Bear

    There is enough madness in the world without seeking it out.

    Leave this junk to an Arts faculty near you.

  4. pat

    already at a universities in Australia…and reported around Australia on partly-taxpayer-funded community radio program, “The Wire”:

    Rachel learned at Uni about systemic racism and ongoing colonialism, so decided to find something she could do to decolonise the way she thinks:

    AUDIO: 4m48s: 15 Sept: The Wire: Social media campaign aims to put Indigenous country names on post
    Featured: Rachel McPhail, social media campaign organiser
    Rachel McPhail was surprised to discover her own Indigenous heritage as an adult, a fact not previously known to her.
    Since then, she has aimed to engage with Indigenous culture, and ‘decolonise’ the spaces she inhabits…
    http://thewire.org.au/story/social-media-campaign-aims-to-put-indigenous-country-names-on-post/

    naturally, ABC – which now identifies “Country” only in all its “Gardening Australia” segments the last time I watched, and “Landline” programs, which identify “white privilege” name and Indigenous group – has already reported it:

    10 Sept: ABC: Gomeroi woman campaigns for First Nations place names to be included in postal addresses
    ABC Illawarra, By Fairlie Hamilton
    “I would love for Australia Post and the Australian Government to make the traditional place names an official part of the address information,” she said.
    “Secondly, I’d love to see Aussie businesses, universities, banks, MyGov, PayPal, Star Track, Uber etcetera asking people for the traditional place name as part of the address information when people are filling in the forms or going through the online checkout.”…

    Ms McPhail found out about her Gomeroi heritage when she was 30 and is named after her great-great-grandmother, who left Country for fear of losing her lighter-skinned child…
    “Over the past few years I’ve been trying to think of little ways that I can make a difference or decolonise my way of thinking.”…

    The CEO of the Nowra Local Aboriginal Land Council (LALC), Nicole Moore is supportive of the idea.
    “Nowra LALC sees great potential for acknowledgement of country to act as recognition that Australia always was, always will be Aboriginal land,” she said.

    Joe Williams is a Wiradjuri and Wolgalu man and former professional rugby league player, boxer and now author and mental health advocate.
    “I think it’s brilliant,” he said.
    “It’s just about showing respect and giving acknowledgement to a place that has existed in a documented 100,000-plus years…

    Response to the idea on social media has been positive, the only criticism being that it could make delivery of the mail more complicated — a criticism Joe Williams rejects.
    “Try being a kid in a remote community that is forced to learn a fifth and sixth language just because they have to go to school,” he said…
    “To suggest that it is too difficult for Australia Post to adopt some of this reeks of privilege.”…

    Australia Post supports the idea
    Rachael McPhail is in early talks with Australia Post about how the idea can be promoted around the country.
    “When it comes to the addressing of letters and parcels, customers are welcome to include the Traditional Nation name in the address,” an Australia Post spokesperson said.
    “We recommend the traditional name is included below the recipient’s name but above the street address.”…
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-10/push-for-indigenous-place-names-in-addresses/12645756

    and the associated costs of everyone signing on to this campaign will be paid by ???

  5. cuckoo

    “all women shall be gagged by officers duly licensed for the purpose before they’re allowed to enter a concert room.”

    Well, with due respect to the many women I know who have perfect concert manners, I largely gave up going to live orchestral concerts because I could guarantee that every. single. one I went to would eventually be ruined by some bored woman in the audience near me rattling her programme, rummaging through her purse, dropping her keys, etc. Why is sit still, shut up and listen such a lost art these days?

  6. cuckoo

    Secondly, I’d love to see Aussie businesses, universities, banks, MyGov, PayPal, Star Track, Uber etcetera asking people for the traditional place name as part of the address information

    In his next book ‘Professor’ Uncle Bruce Pascoe will explain how the aborigines invented four digit postcodes long before the Invasion.

  7. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Beethoven’s symphony is predominantly a reminder of classical music’s history of exclusion and elitism

    Then ignore it, you f*cking morons. No one is forcing you to listen to it.

    There’s plenty of banal unlistenable low rent garbage out there catering to the questionable tastes of perpetually aggrieved imbeciles.

  8. nb

    Communists love mozarts piano concerto no. 23. They have to because it was Stalin’s favourite.
    Nazis love Wagner.
    Mao is a slightly different story, according the the Guardian (!).
    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/jul/08/after-the-cultural-revolution-what-western-classical-music-means-in-china
    Mao’s story is in line with Vox (who’d have thought?):

    Mao’s words would be used against countless individuals: “All literature and art belong to definite classes and are geared to definite political lines. There is in fact no such thing as art for art’s sake.”
    One of the first ideological smear campaigns targeted the music of Debussy, considered “the dirt left behind” by western imperialism, and singled out He Luting, president of the Shanghai Conservatory, for defending the French composer’s music. He Luting’s stubborn refusal, in the face of mental and physical torture, to confess to spiritual and political crimes was an act of unimaginable heroic resistance. In his history of 20th-century music The Rest Is Noise, Alex Ross observes: “No musician ever made a braver stand against totalitarianism.”
    Conductor of the Shanghai Symphony Lu Hongen was also arrested. Days before his execution, he told his cell mate: “Visit Austria, the home of music. Go to Beethoven’s tomb and lay a bouquet of flowers. And tell Beethoven that his disciple is in China.”

    So, that is what is in store for our classical musicians.

  9. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    asking people for the traditional place name as part of the address information

    Because this preposterous pretentious fabricated racist idiocy wasn’t ruthlessly stamped out when it was invented by ernie drongo back in the seventies it now increasingly infects almost every aspect of our lives.

    There are few things I find more cringe worthy than some pretentious guilt riddled white middle class collectivist labore/greenfilth deadshit mouthing that nauseating acknowledgment of/welcome to countrah on almost every conceivable occasion, such as the opening of an envelope.

    I refuse to submit to compelled speech.

  10. bollux

    And ‘Stairway to Heaven’ is about Greta Thunberg’s promotion to a better life. Somewhere.

  11. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Communists love mozart’s piano concerto no. 23. They have to because it was stalin’s favourite.

    As depicted in the opening scene of “The Death of stalin” – “the recording incident”, with the wonderful Olga Kurylenko.

    What took you so long, you f*cking walk here?”

  12. Bela Bartok

    cuckoo
    #3586585, posted on September 16, 2020 at 8:15 am
    …ruined by some bored woman in the audience near me rattling her programme, rummaging through her purse, dropping her keys, etc. Why is sit still, shut up and listen such a lost art these days?

    #Metoo. I’d often stand up and offer the persistent sniffer a tissue, or show the constant talker the exit, or the hummer, the tune. Almost had an aneurysm in one Opera where people behind read out the surtitles… out loud… the entire opera.

  13. Alain

    Vox promotes pedophilia, is it really a surprise

  14. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “It’s just about showing respect and giving acknowledgement to a place that has existed in a documented 100,000-plus years…

    Funny, I can remember when Aboriginal occupancy was 40,000 years.

  15. Boambee John

    Zulu

    Funny, I can remember when Aboriginal occupancy was 40,000 years.

    You’re memory is surprisingly good for someone more than 60,000 years old!

  16. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    You’re memory is surprisingly good for someone more than 60,000 years old!

    Ten thousand professional comedians out of work…….

  17. Mark M

    If they have been practicing the scientific method for 60,000 or 80,000 years, surely they would have written orchestral pieces for breakfast …

    “Aboriginal people in Australia have been practising science and the scientific method for 60,000 or 80,000 years,” says Seth Westhead, a mentor at the summer school.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-04-12/walking-together-indigenous-science-camp/12066816

    Perhaps a didge will do, though a violin seems more the tool for the task.

  18. Simon Thompson

    Well, my intersectionalist autistic brain sees the opening cadence as g-g-g-Eb as a Eb Major III-III-III-I

  19. Snoopy

    “Secondly, I’d love to see Aussie businesses, universities, banks, MyGov, PayPal, Star Track, Uber etcetera asking people for the traditional place name as part of the address information when people are filling in the forms or going through the online checkout.”…

    I’m pretty sure the traditional place name for where I live is Getfuckedyup.

  20. Hay Stockard

    The left. Stupid dull and boring. And they stuff up everything they touch.

  21. Mark M

    ““all women shall be gagged by officers duly licensed for the purpose before they’re allowed to enter a concert room.””

    Sounds like a woke version of “secret women’s business”.

    Hindmarsh Island bridge controversy
    ” In 1994, a group of Ngarrindjeri women elders claimed the site was sacred to them for reasons that could not be revealed.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindmarsh_Island_bridge_controversy

  22. Coming soon to a university near you

    Waddaya mean coming?
    It’s came, it saw, it conquered already.
    The grads are now indoctrinating the next gen.

    First, we kill all the ‘Perfessers’, then we worry about the lawyers and politicians.

  23. H B Bear

    Stupid Aboriginal place names are already here. New WA Museum has got some dead language title no-one can pronounce. Of course, most people will simply ignore it.

    There was the case a few years ago of of drowned surfer down near Mandurah who died because of a mix- up between rescuers and the helicopter over more token blackfellas place names for local beaches.

  24. Penguinite

    impending deafness? Possibly. Or simply a man before his time. Perhaps he had a premonition that a bloke name Churchill would use it to win ww2 as V for Victory in morse code!

  25. Des Deskperson

    ‘asking people for the traditional place name as part of the address information’

    Some Cats may recall my post from earlier this year about an acrimonious, prolonged and highly abusive – and secretly rather entertaining – dispute between a Proud Ngunnawal Man and a Proud Ngambri Man over who was entitled to deliver the ‘Welcome to Country’ at a public lecture in Canberra.

    May I suggest that the above proposal is likely, in some cases at least, to exacerbate this type of unpleasantness.

    Canberrans will, I suppose, be expected to include in their addresses: Ngunnawal and/or Ngambri Country.

  26. Tanjil Bren

    “For others — women, LGBTQ+ people, people of color — Beethoven’s symphony is predominantly a reminder of classical music’s history of exclusion and elitism.”

    But of course it is!
    Who *can’t* be reminded of all those things by a spot of Mozart or Handel?!?
    (And how about cellos! Definitely an instrument of the Patriarchy!)

  27. Des. Can you please recirculate or otherwise link this post.

  28. stackja

    During World War II, the opening motif of Beethoven’s 5th Symphony became a powerful symbol for the Allied forces. The short-short-short-long rhythmic pattern corresponded in Morse code to the letter ‘V‘ for Victory, which was an acknowledged symbol of the war effort, most famously made by Winston Churchill forming a ‘V’ with the first and second fingers of his raised right hand. It was also adopted as the American national symbol after the war, along with the bald eagle.

  29. In Mozart’s and Beethoven’s day, concerts were treated as social events and people would routinely chatter right through. The music was accompaniment, like at a ball.

    By the 1840s, the music was being treated more seriously and those who wanted to concentrate on the music were getting less tolerant of the ‘chattering class’.

  30. Des Deskperson

    ‘Des. Can you please recirculate or otherwise link this post.’

    TAFKAS, can’t find it but I can give you the gist:

    At a public lecture at the National Library, about as woke crowd as you could find anywhere in Australia

    The Proud Ngunnawal Man had only just begun his ‘Welcome to Country’ when the Proud Ngambri Man started abusing him from the audience. The exchange went something like this:

    Proud Ngambri Man; This is Ngambri Land, you fraud

    Proud Ngunnawal Man: Liar; liar and a fraud. it’s Ngannawal Country

    Proud Ngambri Man: Our claims were upheld in court

    Proud Ngunnawal man: You were laughed out of court

    Proud Ngambri man; Fraud, liar

    Proud Ngunnawal man: Liar, fraud.

    This went on for about 15 minutes, the Proud Ngunnawal Man refusing to deliver the Welcome unless the Proud Ngambri man was ejected and the Proud Ngambri man refusing to budge. Someone called ‘security and it looked for a bit like there might be an ugly confrontation. Eventually the Proud Ngunnawal Man agreed to give the Welcome, but the Proud Ngambri man continued the abuse, although largely under his breath.

  31. billie

    some place names should stay, like Kurnell

    Near Kurnell and
    Far Kurnell

    for example

    but I digress

    the constant chipping away at western civilisatio needs to met rudely with a jolly old, “NO, BUGGER OFF!”, and not the bullshyte tolernece afforded wandering intelerent people in serch of offense. Be rude, shout at them, because those are the only means of communicating with the intolerent, not negotiating with them, not acquiesing to the outrageous demands

  32. cuckoo

    an acrimonious, prolonged and highly abusive – and secretly rather entertaining – dispute between a Proud Ngunnawal Man and a Proud Ngambri Man

    Earlier this year I had to attend some particularly fatuous ‘training’ about indigenous issues in my (Victorian public sector) workplace. Instead of a normal meeting room layout, we sat on chairs in a circle, because ooga-booga. What floored me was that the delightful young lady (European) who was delivering the training blandly explained that normally we would begin with an acknowledgment that we were on Wurundjeri land but because of recent unspecified “issues” it was now VPS policy that no specific group be named. Instead we are now on generic indigenous land.

  33. Some History

    Proud Ngambri Man; This is Ngambri Land, you fraud

    Proud Ngunnawal Man: Snot, snot, SNOT!!

  34. sfw

    About 12 years ago I had to undergo a training session with aborigines, imposed on us by the gov. It was in my rather short lived job as a prison officer at Dame Phyliss Frost. I left after six months, the crooks were ok, although a couple of the murderers gave me the an unpleasant feeling when around them, the problem was some of the staff, most were good people but a few real pricks especially when they got promotion, they couldn’t do much to the crooks but they bastardised the staff. Anyway the training, an aboriginal ‘auntie’ fronts up and tells us crap like aboriginals have special psychic powers and that they have feelings that nobody else does because of black etc. Then she came out and stated that prior to the 67 referendum aborigines came under the flora and fauna act and that it was legal to hunt and shoot them. I gave up, said that she was telling outright lies and left the session, I still got my attendance ticked off so all was well.

  35. Kneel

    ” For others — women, LGBTQ+ people, people of color — Beethoven’s symphony is predominantly a reminder of classical music’s history of exclusion and elitism.”

    “… some-ones great, great, great, great grandad
    put some else’s great, great, great, great grandad in chains
    Wasn’t my idea
    Never was my idea…”

    Even popular songs often contains some great insight, don’t they?

    “Race is only an issue [in this country] if you make it an issue.” – IIRC, Morgan Freeman.

  36. Boambee John

    Des D

    There was also the long running controversy between two rival families over the correct spelling of Ngunnawal. Two groups who had no written language arguing about spelling! FFS.

  37. kae

    Decolonise?
    Acknowledge traditional place names/owners?

    Bloody hell. I own my place. I know it’s name.

    What an absolute crock of horse droppings.

  38. John A

    PB #3586561, posted on September 16, 2020, at 7:45 am

    “all women shall be gagged by officers duly licensed for the purpose before they’re allowed to enter a concert room.”

    An idea whose time has returned.

    So, who informed VikPolCommand?

  39. John A

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha #3586620, posted on September 16, 2020, at 9:00 am

    “It’s just about showing respect and giving acknowledgement to a place that has existed in a documented 100,000-plus years…

    Funny, I can remember when Aboriginal occupancy was 40,000 years.

    You young whipper-snapper!

    My first Australian history text talked about the Aboriginal occupation of a maximum of 10,000 years.

    It’s just been a matter of inflation ever since.

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