Everything and the Kitchen Sinc

No doubt our exhausted and exalted editor in chief Sinclair has seen this and has probably published this, but TAFKAS has only stumbled upon this.  This is Peter Theil:

Crypto is libertarian.  AI is communist.

This comes to mind (and is quoted) in a recent Niall Ferguson piece in Bloomberg where he writes:

As Andersen puts it, “In the near future, every person who enters a public space [in China] could be identified, instantly, by AI matching them to an ocean of personal data, including their every text communication, and their body’s one-of-a-kind protein-construction schema. In time, algorithms will be able to string together data points from a broad range of sources — travel records, friends and associates, reading habits, purchases — to predict political resistance before it happens.”

Interesting.  Very interesting.

So the question for TAFKAS is how did the Victorian Government so quickly identify Zoe Buhler and all the other social media posters to whose homes the police came.

Can someone in Victoria please ask the Victorian Government, perhaps at one of the Dan-Briefings, whether the Victorian government is using AI and other data analytics to track citizens?  Also, what information and analytic services has the Victorian Government purchased from Facebook?

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28 Responses to Everything and the Kitchen Sinc

  1. Erm… she was on Facebook. And also in the White Pages, probably.

    You lot watch too many TV shows.

  2. notafan

    Monty she used ‘ Zoe Lee ‘ on Facebook and who, other than businesses and my mother has a landline any more?

  3. Wasn’t she dobbed in by someone on Facebook?
    The left are full of karens. Some will join groups (or follow certain people on Twitter for example) so that they can then dob in the activity and get the page shut down or tweeter suspended.
    No need AI when you have millions of dobbers actively and voluntarily searching.

  4. notafan

    Yes ring dhhs and press 8 if you are dobbing

    Other young mum who got home visit was told Facebook was being monitored. She said she had neither driver’s license or passport.

  5. Damon

    Since I doubt even the Victorian police have the resources (or interest) to monitor Facebook 24/7, she was obviously shopped to the cops. The simplest explanation is usually correct.

  6. Hay Stockard

    What a Brave New World we live in.

  7. A Lurker

    So the question for TAFKAS is how did the Victorian Government so quickly identify Zoe Buhler and all the other social media posters to whose homes the police came.

    Yes, the State could be and probably is spying on citizens, but I think that it’s more likely that one of her (and their) Facebook friends isn’t really a friend at all.

  8. Diogenes

    OTOH

    The UK government has enlisted controversial US AI biz Palantir in a bid to “mitigate and manage potential disruption at the border” as the country’s departure from the EU comes into force.

    According to documents seen by The Guardian, Palantir, co-founded by Trump-backing Peter Thiel, has been contracted by the Cabinet Office to build a Border Flow Toolkit.

    In the US, Palantir, which is contracted to US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), has created an Analytical Framework for Intelligence to pull data from federal, state and local law-enforcement databases to create individual profiles and citizens thought to represent a risk are tracked. The database includes personal details, social connections and travel histories.

    According to information leaked to The Guardian, Palantir was contracted to build the Border Flow Toolkit on 11 September, having completed a “successful test connection made to Home Office system with Palantir technology” a few days earlier.

    https://www.theregister.com/2020/09/17/uk_contracts_palantir_border/

  9. K2

    Who needs psychics floating in a fishtank.

  10. What are the odds that Zoe was previously “known to police”?

  11. The question was how the police knew who Zoe was. Perhaps she and Plod went way back.

  12. Boambee John

    Yes, the State could be and probably is spying on citizens,

    And m0nty is quite comfortable with this. He has grown to love Big Fascism.

  13. feelthebern

    It’s Peter Thiel, Sparty.
    The greatest living American.
    Please don’t dishonour him by spelling his name wrong.

  14. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #3589248, posted on September 18, 2020 at 11:54 am
    What are the odds that Zoe was previously “known to police”?

    The Artist Formerly Known As Spartacus
    #3589250, posted on September 18, 2020 at 11:56 am
    Why does that matter?

    Because m0nty wants fascism in Victoria, as long as it is “his” fascism.

    You claim that you like to punch fascists m0nty, crawl out of the basement and go find one of the Blackshirts infesting the streets.

    All Heil Fuhrer Dan!

  15. It’s a sub-set of the Left’s ‘cancel culture’, ‘dob in a mate’.

  16. RobK

    As disruptive as it is, Dans tyranny strikes me as still the old analog type. I hasten to add digital tyranny will be revolutionary. Never has a tyrant had so much potential.

  17. BM

    I’m inclined to believe that Chairman Dan’s internal espionage apparatus is neither artificial nor intelligent.

  18. Bruce of Newcastle

    Cryptocurrency is racist. AI is racist. As for VicPlod I leave that to the reader to decide, although they seem more inclined to arrest pregnant white women than dusky people with knives.

  19. Archivist

    Can someone in Victoria please ask the Victorian Government, perhaps at one of the Dan-Briefings, whether the Victorian government is using AI and other data analytics to track citizens?

    Fuck.

    Let’s be honest. We know the answer. It hadn’t crossed my mind as a possibility, but once raised, it can’t be shaken.

  20. John A

    controversial US AI biz Palantir

    Diogenes, that is an interesting name for that business and, as Tolkein showed, the technology can be used by both sides.

  21. HT

    Ummmm. I’ll keep simple and allow you to draw your own conclusions.

    Every arrival at every major airport in the country “corals” arrivals, domestic and international, into a passageway with a single exit, above which are sets of cameras.

    Anyone think these cameras are checked manually for biometrics in the (valid) search for bad people? Or maybe there is some pre-processing done to alert an analyst of a person of interest? Matched up to a geofenced cell tower search etc, there is much that can be learned and prospectively it “could” 🙄 be a computer operation to flag events warranting greater attention.

    Scraping FB required no warrant. Asking FB for details on an individual does require a warrant, but most people happily provide everything in the public domain that VicStasi need to identify you without needing a warrant. Open Source Intel is really quite an eye opener for those that know how to scrape it out of the internets sewage pipes known as Social Media.

    Social Media is a digital surveillance states wet dream. The pictures you provide gives them all the biometrics “they” need. I don’t have any SM accounts for that reason. Not because I’m a crook, but because I value my privacy. And sadly, today in Victoria, it provides security for me from the VicStasi discovering my identity if they consider I’ve committed thoughtcrimes by disagreeing with the Dear Leader, and having the temerity of saying so.

    My kids always thought I was a bit of a kook when it came to using a smartphones and the WWW in general. Unduly influenced by my former employment, they charged! Everyone of them has had me harden thier accounts over the past few months though 😎

    That Ballarat lady? I have absolutely no doubt she provided all VicStasi needed as public information on her FB account (intentionally or not). All the VicStasi needed was a tip-off.

  22. nb

    Senator Ted Cruz on the ALP’s friends, China (BFF Daniel Andrews and his secret Belt and Road).
    American Thought Leaders – The Epoch Times: ‘Sen. Ted Cruz on the Strategy to ‘Defeat’ China’s Communist Party’
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUZ9LtSoHfE
    ——————-
    What is the terrain we need to fight on?
    Truth.
    Free enterprise.

  23. Fair Shake

    VicPol have a centre that reviews social media for criminal content example kiddie porn, self harming trends (Cutting) and violence. Not too hard to search for protest organisers.

  24. HT

    Fair Shake
    #3589330, posted on September 18, 2020 at 1:27 pm
    VicPol have a centre that reviews social media for criminal content example kiddie porn, self harming trends (Cutting) and violence. Not too hard to search for protest organisers.

    Indeed. They also have their own Intel Group.

  25. MattyH

    It’s not hard to use cloud services to identify people by photo or video.

    I’ve seen a proof of concept demo’d of turnstile jumpers identified from train station CCV.

  26. Hay Stockard

    Flip,flop into the tank,
    There goes Monty,
    having a wank.

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