One Supreme Court appointment away from a totalitarian patriarchal theocratic society it seems

It is always a fascination however depressing it might be to enter into a conversation with someone on the left. The Trump presidency has exceeded even my expectations for virtue and achievement, with the peace agreements in the Middle East beyond all anticipation. Yet there they are, Democrats who won’t concede even a scintilla of credit to the president for anything whatsoever. This is yet another example, but a very good example, of the idiocies of the left in looking at Trump and the last four years: Trump’s 1776 commission is proof America is spiraling toward fascism. From the Guardian but even so, how can there be people this ignorant that this doesn’t look like the ravings of a lunatic:

Gilead here we come

Can we use the F word yet? Can we finally admit that America is dipping its feet in fascism? Armed militias are roaming the streets; Donald Trump is laying the groundwork to discredit the results of the 2020 election; the press has been labelled the “enemy of the people”; there are credible allegations that migrant women in detention camps are being coerced into having their uteruses removed; “anti-fascists” have been branded public enemy number one. And now Trump has announced a “national commission to support patriotic education” – in other words, a racist propaganda program.

“Leftwing rioting and mayhem are the direct result of decades of left-wing indoctrination in our schools,” Trump declared in a speech on Thursday. He went on to condemn critical race theory and the 1619 Project, the New York Time’s Pulitzer-prize winning initiative to reframe American history by placing the consequences of slavery at the center. “[T]he crusade against American history is toxic propaganda [that] will destroy our country,” he announced. Per Trump, the only way to save the United States is to revise its history entirely; to gloss over violent colonialism and slavery and pretend America doesn’t have a bigoted bone in its body. Which is why, Trump said, he is setting up a 1776 Commission to teach students “about the miracle of American history”. Well, “miracle” is certainly one way to describe something completely made-up.

And in case you don’t get the reference to Gilead:

The Republic of Gilead, colloquially referred to as simply Gilead or elsewhere sometimes called, by its leadership, the “Divine Republic”, is the totalitarian patriarchal theocracy that rules over most of the territory that belonged to the former continental United States in The Handmaid’s Tale.

Just around the corner, is it? These people are mad. These people seem to really believe that the US is one Supreme Court appointment away from a totalitarian patriarchal theocratic society. They are beyond discussion and reason. They are plainly crazy. As a kind of counterweight, let me just bring up this: Van Morrison Attacks ‘Fascist Bullies’ In Anti-Lockdown Protest Songs.

Irish singer-songwriter Morrison has released three new protest songs railing against the ‘pseudoscience’ surrounding Chinese Coronavirus and accusing the UK government of being ‘fascist bullies disturbing our peace.’

Sample lyrics:

No more lockdown / No more government overreach / No more fascist bullies / Disturbing our peace …

No more taking of our freedom / And our God-given rights / Pretending it’s for our safety / When it’s really to enslave …”

Come to Victoria if you have any doubt about where reality now lies.

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73 Responses to One Supreme Court appointment away from a totalitarian patriarchal theocratic society it seems

  1. stackja

    USA Democrats controlled the USA in 1852 and 1856 they lost in 1860, then in 1861 they attacked Fort Sumter believing they were invulnerable. Then came Grant and Sherman.
    FDR tried to recreate the old order.
    JFK LBJ resumed. Clinton and BO tried again. Now Trump.

  2. Professor Fred Lenin

    I suppose psychiatrists are familiar with entally afflicted people who live in their own mind , totally ignoring reality in their derangement. There is definately a case for the psychiatric treatment of the majority of the left . The western world is infested with them ,just wonder if the rest of the world is similarly afflicted ?
    Probably not ,their education systems educate instead of indoctrinate .

  3. Tel

    America took the first steps towards fascism under Woodrow Wilson.

    There hasn’t been a whole lot of steps back towards freedom except perhaps a tiny bit under Reagan and some regulation cuts under Trump. Wars are normal now … people have lost track of who we are supposedly fighting this week … just like Orwell predicted.

    And in case you don’t get the reference to Gilead:

    You mean Saudi Arabia with a few superficial tweaks here and there?

  4. jupes

    Donald Trump is laying the groundwork to discredit the results of the 2020 election;

    Yes he’s employed teams of lawyers and declared he won’t concede no matter the resutlt. Oh hang on …

  5. jupes

    Wars are normal now

    Wars have always been normal for the USA. They are a warrior nation.

    Generally, that’s been a good thing.

  6. Some History

    From Jane Yonda

    Jane Fonda: ‘We Have to Rise Up and Not Allow’ McConnell, GOP to Replace Ginsburg — ‘Let’s Grow Some Balls and Ovaries’

    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/09/19/jane-fonda-we-have-to-rise-up-and-not-allow-mcconnell-gop-to-replace-ginsburg-lets-grow-some-balls-and-ovaries/

  7. A Lurker

    If by some sleight of hand the Democrats get in, then I suggest that America will not be turning into Gilead, but rather a version of Panem from the Hunger Games.

  8. Leading candidate for the SCOTUS pick Amy Coney Barrett is from a Catholic sect where the women are literally called handmaidens.

  9. Sinclair Davidson

    Leading candidate for the SCOTUS pick Amy Coney Barrett is from a Catholic sect where the women are literally called handmaidens.

    Pick a woman and literally declare her opinions to be law enforced by people with guns. Not quite how the Handmaidens Tale works.

  10. Barrett would absolutely vote to nix Roe v Wade and many other laws which enable women’s rights.

  11. JohnJJJ

    “there are credible allegations that migrant women in detention camps are being coerced into having their uteruses removed”
    What do they do with them? Asking for a friend. Is this an example of being hysterectical? ©JJJ

  12. Sinclair Davidson

    A bit hysterical don’t you think?

  13. JC

    Leading candidate for the SCOTUS pick Amy Coney Barrett is from a Catholic sect where the women are literally called handmaidens.

    A great law career and bio

    She then attended Notre Dame Law School as a Kiley Fellow (a full-tuition scholarship). At Notre Dame, Barrett served as an executive editor of the Notre Dame Law Review. In 1997, she graduated first in her class, which earned her the Hoynes Prize, the Law School’s highest honor.

    and

    Career

    Clerkships and private practice

    After graduating from law school, Barrett served as a law clerk to Judge Laurence Silberman of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.[17] She then spent a year as a clerk to Associate Justice Antonin Scalia of the Supreme Court of the United States.[17] During both clerkships, she was the only female law clerk.

    From 1999 to 2002, she practiced law at Miller, Cassidy, Larroca & Lewin in Washington, D.C

    Personal life.

    Barrett is married to Jesse M. Barrett, a partner at SouthBank Legal in South Bend, Indiana, and former Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Indiana.[66][67] They live in South Bend and have seven children: five biological children and two children adopted from Haiti. Their youngest biological child has special needs.[2][68][69] Barrett is a practicing Roman Catholic.[32]

    While a full-time faculty member at Notre Dame, Barrett was affiliated with Faculty for Life, a pro-life group at the school. In 2015, she signed a joint letter to Catholic bishops that affirmed the Church’s teachings, including “the value of human life from conception to natural death”, and that family and marriage are “founded on the indissoluble commitment of a man and a woman”.[70][71]

    Yep, a real handmaiden. Good find, Fatboy.

  14. JC

    Barrett would absolutely vote to nix Roe v Wade and many other laws which enable women’s rights.

    She may do, but you idiot, she would be one of nine and furthermore it’s not up to her which cases get taken to SCOTUS. Roberts decides. Roberts has also said the abortion issue is pretty settled.

    Furthermore, even if the SCTOUS decided to remove abortion as a right to privacy, it doesn’t mean the states would ban abortion.

    I’m in two minds about abortion, Monst. On the pro-side, you would be exhibit A why abortion should be kept legal.

  15. mundi

    The scary part is that this is accepted in mainstream media and believe by pretty much everyone under age 35.

  16. A bit hysterical don’t you think?

    The swing vote goes from Roberts, who ushered through Obergefell and preserved Obamacare, to needing both Roberts and Kavanaugh (who mostly vote together) to join the three liberal justices. They are not going to outright overturn Roe v Wade, but they will continue the trend of making it harder and harder for abortion clinics to operate, so functionally the effect will be much the same.

  17. Tim Neilson

    Actually Barrett is a worry. She’s said she’d recuse herself from any decision if her view of what the law required would necessitate voting against Catholic doctrine. With Pope Trotsky the First’s decrees steadily incorporating more and more hard left “progressive” ideology into Catholic teaching, that would seriously hamper her ability to protect many traditional Constitutional protections.

  18. Sinclair Davidson

    So as you say, Roe v Wade won’t be overturned. So hard to get excited.

    On the other hand, abortion is an issue best resolved through the political process not the judicial process. So what exactly is the problem?

  19. Leigh Lowe

    Sinclair Davidson

    #3592135, posted on September 20, 2020 at 8:03 pm

    So as you say, Roe v Wade won’t be overturned. So hard to get excited.

    On the other hand, abortion is an issue best resolved through the political process not the judicial process. So what exactly is the problem?

    Oh?
    Are you suggesting rat-cunning politicians write vague or no legislation on thorny social issues and kick the issues upstairs to the Supreme/High Court?

  20. The liberal minority were able to pick off one of Roberts, Kavanaugh or Gorsuch on quite a few cases in recent times, but having to snag two of them is going to be a big ask, especially if the new justice is as far right as Thomas.

    It’s not your fundamental human rights under threat, Sinc.

  21. I’m actually more worried about a repeat of Bush v Gore at every election while this massive conservative majority holds. It would allow Trumpist con men in the GOP to cheat with more and more brazenness, knowing that SCOTUS would let them off if they ever got called on it. There’s already been too much of that under Roberts, he wouldn’t be able to stop it if the other five conservatives vote in lockstep.

  22. stackja

    WSJ Editorial Board: Sorry, Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s Wish Regarding Successor Isn’t Her Call
    Matt Vespa| @mvespa1|Posted: Sep 20, 2020 4:05 AM

    To quote Saint Mick, “you can’t always get what you want.” That’s what liberals have to understand about the looming fight to fill the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s seat. It’s been said that Ginsburg, who passed away Friday at the age of 87, wanted the next president to select her replacement. That’s not how this works. Ginsburg’s wishes are not law. The Wall Street Journal editorial board doled out some tough love to these liberals regarding their use of emotion in an effort to stop Senate Republicans from taking up a vacancy fight (via WSJ) [emphasis mine]:

    Her death leaves three solid liberals on the nine-member Court, and Justice Ginsburg understood the stakes in the decision of who will take her place. National Public Radio reported Friday that the Justice dictated this statement to her granddaughter Clara Spera only days before her death: “My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed.”

    But her wish is not the Constitution’s command. The President has the power to nominate a successor as soon as he desires, and the Senate then has the power to confirm or not. The timing of that vote is a matter for the Senate to decide, and the current Senate can hold a confirmation vote even on the last day it is in session if it chooses.
    Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said in a statement Friday evening that “President Trump’s nominee will receive a vote on the floor of the United States Senate.” He is right to hold such a vote. The GOP retained its Senate majority in 2018 in large part because of the political backlash from the smearing of Justice Brett Kavanaugh. Whether Mr. McConnell holds a vote before or after the election is a prudential political decision based on the likelihood of getting the votes for confirmation.

    Democrats are sure to raise as a precedent Mr. McConnell’s refusal, in 2016, to allow a Senate vote on Barack Obama’s nominee after the death of Justice Antonin Scalia. But that was a constitutional use of the Senate majority that Democrats would also have employed, as no less than New York Democrat and now Minority Leader Chuck Schumer had declared toward the end of George W. Bush’s second term.

    ….

    And now, Democrats are mulling court-packing because…Trump. Then again, liberals are right in the sense that we need a ninth member just in case this election gets litigated all the way to the Supreme Court which is possible. We can’t have a 4-4 tie situation.

  23. Another Ian

    Check the form of Judge Lagoa.

    Particularly in the current situation

  24. Tim Neilson

    I’m actually more worried about a repeat of Bush v Gore at every election while this massive conservative majority holds.

    Roberts upheld Obamacare and voted for gay “marriage”.
    If Roberts plus 5 out of the other 8 is a “massive” conservative [read: dedicated to the law rather than “progressive” ideology] majority, what would a “slender” conservative majority look like?

    As for Bush/Gore, yes, as best I recall 5 Republican nominees voted correctly that each State is empowered to run the voting as it wishes unless there’s clear disenfranchisement, which clearly there wasn’t, while 4 Dem appointees screamed hysterically that the “butterfly ballot” was ok for Dem controlled jurisdictions like Cook County Illinois (where it had been invented) but not in a tight election where the Dem lost.
    On what legal, as opposed to political, grounds, do you object to the Bush/Gore decision? Pro tip -“not enough Dem appointees on the Court” isn’t legal analysis.

  25. Boambee John

    Tel

    And in case you don’t get the reference to Gilead:

    You mean Saudi Arabia with a few superficial tweaks here and there?

    I read a while back that the book dates from soon after (published 1985, drafted earlier) the time of the Shah’s overthrow, and was at least partially based on the Eesla mic Republic under Khomenei.

  26. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #3592092, posted on September 20, 2020 at 7:41 pm
    Barrett would absolutely vote to nix Roe v Wade and many other laws which enable women’s rights.

    Even as he lives under fascism imposed by the “progressive” left, m0nty stays true to “progressivism” and all its policies and fears.

  27. Steve

    That Guardian article is TOTAL BS! I watched that video and it was all about returning the history of America that is taught in schools, back to what actually happened.. slavery, warts and all. It’s the left who rewrote history that teaches children to hate the America they live in.

  28. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #3592142, posted on September 20, 2020 at 8:08 pm
    The liberal minority were able to pick off one of Roberts, Kavanaugh or Gorsuch on quite a few cases in recent times, but having to snag two of them is going to be a big ask, especially if the new justice is as far right as Thomas.

    It’s not your fundamental human rights under threat, Sinc.

    m0nty assumes that only “liberals” care about fundamental human rights. Demonstrates his systemic bias.

  29. Hay Stockard.

    The tears of the left. Something I would happily wade through

  30. nb

    China ALP.
    Tyranny breeds tyranny.

  31. Oh come on

    Roe v Wade should be overturned on the basis that it was a poorly reasoned decision. Same with Obergefell.

    Let the politicians in their relevant jurisdictions introduce these measures, and allow voters to reward or penalise them for their actions.

  32. Oh come on

    I’m enjoying the spectacle of m0nty’s epic triggering.

  33. candy

    there are credible allegations that migrant women in detention camps are being coerced into having their uteruses removed;

    TDS is a brutal illness that they believe this. Just when you think you are used to outrageous claims by Dems, this comes along. They think Trump is Hitler and probably also believe there are gas ovens for migrants with Trump leading the show.

    It’s not even funny and I bet Monty and Numbers also believe Trump has gas ovens organised. How do otherwise ordinary people become so weird over one political figure. Why? It’s just nuts, is all you can say.

  34. Lazlo

    monty has value – he gives us early warning of the latest leftist narrative, straight from the websites he loves.

    The latest one about catholic handmaidens and Gilead is ironic. Gilead Sciences are hoping to make zillions from Remesdivir, which requires a sustained campaign to rubbish the cheap Hydroxichlorine and zinc, because Trump.

  35. Rex Anger

    @ OCO-

    It certainly is entertaining. But only entertaining in the way that watching a paranoid schizophrenic scream itself hoarse at, then batter a streetlight into bloody submission.

    It’s kinda hard to expose and mock the flaws in the arguments of someone so far gone in madness and fear, that they long ago stopped arguing and instead wail and soil their pants in self-inflicted, non-existent terror, in every arena they frequent. Welcome to the world of the Left…

    mUnted stopped being comprehensible the moment news broke that his beloved leftist icon RBG was dead. It is arguable he went off the deep end when he got the coof coof-19, and the obvious dissonances involved in actively shilling for the bastardry of Maximum LockDan wrecked what was left of his faculties.

    But the horrors of actually getting the Revolutionary State he has craved for so long at home in Viktoristan, combined with the awful prospect of facing its loss in the USA (for a time period at least beyond the end of his natural life), has left our resident Socialista a gibbering wreck…

  36. Oh come on
    #3592228, posted on September 20, 2020 at 9:11 pm

    Roe v Wade should be overturned on the basis that it was a poorly reasoned decision. Same with Obergefell.

    Let the politicians in their relevant jurisdictions introduce these measures, and allow voters to reward or penalise them for their actions.

    Very well said but Trump considers Obergefell to be the end of the matter.

  37. Tel

    Trump considers Obergefell to be the end of the matter.

    Trump is not a lawmaker, any more than RBG was a lawmaker.

    It’s really not his affair to make any decision on this matter … his job is to be the executive.

  38. Rex Anger

    I was of the opinion, LS, that the Evilbad Orange Man (shun! shun!) consodered that the matter of abortion is for the States to decide. I am inclined to agree, however appalling I find the matter.

    For some reason I have never been able to fathom, leftists worldwide insist on it being irreversibly legislated and aggressively enforced at the highest possible level.

    It is as if they are aware that everyone outside their bubble is extremely aware that the entire thing has only ever been about unaccountable power…

  39. Huck

    m0nty
    #3592076, posted on September 20, 2020 at 7:33 pm
    Leading candidate for the SCOTUS pick Amy Coney Barrett is from a Catholic sect where the women are literally called handmaidens

    And…

    m0nty
    #3592092, posted on September 20, 2020 at 7:41 pm
    Barrett would absolutely vote to nix Roe v Wade and many other laws which enable women’s rights

    You are a Catholic aren’t you m0nty?

  40. a totalitarian patriarchal theocratic society

    Sounds pretty good to me. Where do I sign up?

  41. Crossie

    Gilead here we come

    Yet in California it’s not pedophilia as long as there is no more than ten years difference between lovers even if one of them is ten years old. I don’t remember a single article from the Left criticising that law.

  42. MatrixTransform

    nevermind that mUnty’s argument seems to have come straight from a crystal ball.

    the funniest part is the unfounded allegation that 2x SC appointments vote the same way and that by implication, the SC is now ideologically corrupted

    then goes on to squeal about the slippery slope … another SC appointment would be more corrupt

    only a retard could put that forward and still expect to be taken credibly

    what a loon

  43. Boambee John

    You are a Catholic aren’t you m0nty?

    He is as Catholic as Dan of the Dead and Nobody’s Gurrrll.

  44. Tel

    Just being a bit nitpicky, the US President has extensive law making capacity regarding adminstrative law.

  45. Anne

    #SaveTheChildren unless it’s really inconvenient to take contraception.

    Trump’s nominee will be Amy Coney Barrett and I predict Rowe v Wade will be repealed early next year.

    No more blood for Satan.

  46. Mother Lode

    Do they have the slightest awareness that the constant use of the terms ‘fascism’ and ‘fascist’ is like a gigantic neon sign pointing at themselves. It communicates no meaning other than their own fury.

    They might disown socialists such as the real fascists in history while embracing as heroes others such as Mao, Lenin, Chavez etc. but what is the word they would use for a state which is not under a single leader and where the state controls everything? Do they have a word? Can they conceive of such a thing?

    And credible evidence that migrant women having their uteruses forcefully removed?

    For all their pretensions of intellectual heft and sagacity it really is just pretense. Like adolescents with their, newly flushed with hormones, they think they know everything and all the adults are holding them back, but when they break free the world will never be the same again, and everyone is going to know it was them, and everyone is going to be so grateful, and everyone is going to be so stoked.

  47. cuckoo

    Saw a quick grab from Gary Ablett Senior’s videoed ‘rant’ about Daniel Andrews and the lockdown. Made sense to me, especially where he denounced Andrews as a ‘puppet’. The commentator was quick to add that Ablett also made religious references – media code for ‘must be a raving kook’.

  48. thefrollickingmole

    Leading candidate for the SCOTUS pick Amy Coney Barrett is from a Catholic sect where the women are literally called handmaidens.

    Shorter Monty:

    We must protect womens rights by denying a woman a place on the supreme court.

  49. thefrollickingmole

    On the other hand, abortion is an issue best resolved through the political process not the judicial process. So what exactly is the problem?

    A number of the Justices right and left, have opined Roe vs Wade was awful law.
    Not because of the outcomes, but because it allowed the politicians to use the judiciary as a catspaw to “resolve” the abortion issue.

    Even your beloved RBG didnt like the outcome, for some fairly solid “liberal” reasons.

    Ginsburg and Professor Geoffrey Stone, a longtime scholar of reproductive rights and constitutional law, spoke for 90 minutes before a capacity crowd in the Law School auditorium on May 11 on “Roe v. Wade at 40.”

    “My criticism of Roe is that it seemed to have stopped the momentum on the side of change,” Ginsburg said. She would’ve preferred that abortion rights be secured more gradually, in a process that included state legislatures and the courts, she added. Ginsburg also was troubled that the focus on Roe was on a right to privacy, rather than women’s rights.

    “Roe isn’t really about the woman’s choice, is it?” Ginsburg said. “It’s about the doctor’s freedom to practice…it wasn’t woman-centered, it was physician-centered.”

  50. Bruce

    @ Rex Anger:

    “For some reason I have never been able to fathom, leftists worldwide insist on it being irreversibly legislated and aggressively enforced at the highest possible level.”

    They also seem to be more than keen on the “logical” extension of their “philosophy”; RETROSPECTIVE ABORTION”, as enthusiastically practised in their own historical “earthly Paradises”.

  51. Mother Lode

    He went on to condemn critical race theory and the 1619 Project

    All their ‘critical’ theories are merely the latest attempt to paper over the fact that they do not know or understand very much and could not hold their own in a discussion with anyone versed in the topic at hand.

    They assume an imaginary position ‘above’ or ‘outside’ a discipline to critique it – which invariably means to denigrate it. So, for example, critiques of science are not themselves science and do not require science. In fact understanding science blinds you to the critique. Understanding science limits your ability to talk about science.

    And where is this elevated realm from which deliver their judgments? What method are they exercising?

    Politics.

    The one thing they think they understand better than anyone else. And not the politics you are thinking of. Instead it is a contrived, almost mechanical modelling. They have memorised countless little rules and protocols like teenagers in a basement playing Dungeons and Dragons.

    Critical theory of science is a political theory. To really understand literature is to understand its politics. Critical Race Theory is a theory where race is where race is a manifestation of politics.

    In fact, armed with this new…ahem…insight you can see that the usual understanding is flawed. You don’t have to have African heritage to be Black, and a person with dark skin who is politically right is not truly black. Not politically. Gender theory has slipped its mooring from the biological facts of having a penis or a vagina to something so vague merely saying one thing or another imparts all the reality that there is beyond all cavil.

    Honestly, if a person said they were a man one morning, and in the evening said they were a woman the person who pauses at this abrupt change is the villain, and the person quickest to credit as a truth is most virtuous. If this person said they were a man in the morning then all good people would consider indisputably true. And in the evening when they declared their womanhood and said that they were in error in the morning and had in fact been a woman in the morning too, here all good people would immediately accept that they were a woman now and a woman in the morning despite what they themselves would have said earlier. And anyone who had not accepted this person’s being a man in the morning and therefore all day had believed what the person had just declared will have been despised in the morning for their error.

    But like most liars they fail through inconsistency. They denounce science yet when someone is sceptical of AGW they demand everyone ‘believe the science’. Gender does not exist but men are wired for violence and women compassion. There is no great literature but making the NYT best seller list is an honour. There is no history, just stories told and retold in the service of political agendas but Black history deserves its own month – I mean, if you honestly distrusted history as a certain points of view of certain people omitting what does not serve them and highlighting what does, then what else would Black history be?

    And they consider themselves the intellectual elite.

  52. Oh come on

    What is it with the constant Handmaid’s Tale references? Getting boring, ladies! Switch it up a bit, please you unimaginative harpies.

  53. H B Bear

    Has anyone checked on mUnty today? Perhaps dangle a doughnut on a fishing line outside his basement window.

  54. Oh come on

    There isn’t enough icecream in the world to get him through this, HB. I hope people are checking on him.

  55. Mother Lode

    Has anyone checked on mUnty today? Perhaps dangle a doughnut on a fishing line outside his basement window.

    He is doing some scientifical modelling.

    He is using chocolate iced donuts to represent ‘right wing’ judges and strawberry jam donuts with pink icing to represent ‘left wing’ judges, and looking at how Trump’s choices might pan out.

    It is difficult because he keeps running out of judges.

  56. Mother Lode

    from a Catholic sect where the women are literally called handmaidens.

    This is how the lefty brain works – or rather, doesn’t.

    Because this sect uses the word handmaiden, and Margaret Atwood’s book calls its scarlet cloaked, white hooded brood sows handmaids, they must mean the same thing and it must be that the books definition applies to the religious group.

  57. Sinclair Davidson

    It’s not your fundamental human rights under threat, Sinc.

    Australians – especially Victorians – have no human rights, so I’ve got no dog in this race.

  58. Sinclair Davidson

    No more blood for Satan.

    Okay – what’s going on here? Has everyone’s base stupidity level escalated a notch?

  59. Oh come on

    m0nty needs to relax. There will be plenty more opportunities to gain false hope over the next few weeks. Remember when the Access Hollywood tapes dropped? I’m sure the Dems have something similar up their sleeve for October.

  60. Mother Lode

    No more blood for Satan.

    Okay – what’s going on here? Has everyone’s base stupidity level escalated a notch?

    If that was Anne, after reading some of her conspiracy theories, I suspect that was not meant figuratively but that she means literally blood is being given to Satan.

  61. Geriatric Mayfly

    HORRIFIC VIDEO: Screaming Grandmother Manhandled by 8 Cops, Cuffed and Hauled Off for Not Wearing Mask at Anti-Lockdown Protest in Public Park

    She’s made Gateway Pundit. I am ashamed to be a Victorian.

  62. Another Ian

    “She’s made Gateway Pundit. I am ashamed to be a Victorian.”

    How does that rate in “Covers of the Rolling Stone”?

    Particularly for the police?

  63. Lee

    Barrett would absolutely vote to nix Roe v Wade and many other laws which enable women’s rights.

    It’s never about the aborted babies’ rights with your lot, is it?

  64. John A

    Steve #3592205, posted on September 20, 2020, at 8:53 pm

    That Guardian article is TOTAL BS! I watched that video and it was all about returning the history of America that is taught in schools, back to what actually happened.. slavery, warts and all. It’s the left who rewrote history that teaches children to hate the America they live in.

    That may be so, Steve, but it doesn’t alter the essence of the problem which is the politicization of history. In this case, the 1776 Project is just a mirror image of the 1619 Project UNLESS it aims to remove the politicization completely.

  65. dover_beach

    At least Monty is admitting that women’s rights’ necessarily involves the power to kill their child. Feminists only opposed paterfamilias because they couldn’t exercise those powers themselves. They are perfectly happy with them per se.

  66. Kneel

    “Project is just a mirror image of the 1619 Project UNLESS it aims to remove the politicization completely.”

    Which side wants to remove statues of General Lee and also Washington? Dims.
    Which side were the Confederate slavers on? Dims.
    Which side were the KKK on? Dims.
    Wiping out the darkest (no pun intended) parts of your history in order to prevent people being triggered by something that has been illegal for all of living memory is political, no doubt.
    Confronting the worst of your history is definately a good thing – “doomed to repeat it” and all that.

    As for social justice, one of the tenets is that we should reduce income inequalities, isn’t it?
    Under Obama, this gap widened, while under Trump it has narrowed.
    8 years of Obama saw middle and low income earners get $1k p.a. pay increase.
    4 years of Trump saw middle and low income earners get a $4.4k p.a. pay increase.
    Biggest pay increases went to asians, hispanics and blacks.

    Choking regulation and corporate tax levels that drove companies off-shore have been lowered and enticed those companies – and jobs – back to the USA.
    Pre-covid, unemployment for total as well as all group breakdowns (white, black, hispanic, asian, men, women) was at near record lows (for blacks, was a record).

    “Opportunity Zones” – mostly in minority communities – have started re-vitalising dead and dying small towns.

    Despite claims it “won’t happen” (at least Biden and Pelosi both), US Navy hospital ships arrived on time when requested – despite the fact they were never actually needed.

    Riots stopped within 24 hours where governors asked the feds for help (WI, eg)

    >60% of registered voters think “blue lives matter” and support this aspect of Trumps “rule”.

    Trump has answered 1000 times more media questions during the campaign than Biden.

    During the two “Town Hall”s, Trump was only asked “zingers”, while Biden had his rants against Trump repeated and asked for his opinion on that.

    Trump has stated “you will never lose your second amendment while I’m here”, Biden wants you disarmed while at the same time he wants to defund the police.

    Trump wanted the riots stopped from the get go, Biden only condemned violence in general after CNN broadcast that the failure to condemn was hurting him in the poles.

    McEnany once again highlighted the MSM’s total bias against Trump. On the day of nomination, not one media question on the Nobel Peace Prize nomination – which, unlike Obama’s, was made because he brokered the first middle east peace deal in 20+ years, instead of because he had the right skin colour.
    I love that woman – pretty, brave (she admits she had a double mastectomy as a preventative measure – though you’d never know it – and she appears on national TV almost daily), intelligent, extremely well organised, and doesn’t take shit from anyone while remaining extremely polite with her rebukes. I’d be there in a flash if she wasn’t already married, although I would likely regret it at some point 🙂

    MSM trusted LESS than congress itself (first time EVER!).

    Harris has still not deleted a tweet requesting support for the MFF – which has been shown to have posted bail for someone arrested for rape, and which helped people who committed arson get back on the street in time for the next nights riots.

    Rasmussen (who suggested Hillary by 1.7% of popular vote in 2016, reality was was 2.1%, making it one of the most accurate pollsters) is showing an even smaller margin this time. The only other pollster that came close is now saying Trump is in the lead in the popular vote too.
    I suspect for the reasons listed above.

    November/December will be a very interesting time in the USA – hopefully, it will be done by Christmas, but maybe not… glad I’m not there for it, it’ll get very ugly before it finally settles and hopefully it won’t degenerate into Civil War 2.0.

  67. Militias are roaming the streets – Ah yes, mostly left wing militias who are being arrested by the Feds for terrorism, etc.

    These freaks think we are faced with a binary choice between Gilead and the less worse Soviet Union.

  68. Catcalling Inebriate

    “Peace agreements in the Middle East’. So The Arab League and Israel are reconciled? Nope. Two State solution is agreed? Nope. Turkey is no longer scaring the crap out of the Arabs with its Brotherhood supports? Nope. Iran is backing off? Nope. Syria not seeing a rise of ISIS-type fanatics? Nope. Lebanon stable and resuming its historic stability? Not at all. So the Saudis have done a Trump deal to save Bibi? Nope. Iraq is all fine, no probs? Nope.
    Hmmm. Has Trump given the Taliban free licence again? Yep. Allowed Russians free action in Syria etc? Yep. Allowed China to openly support Iran militarily? Yep.
    Peace? Apparently Israel likes Dubai.

  69. Mother Lode

    The Ratfucking Illiterate is re-iterating again precisely what and why previous administrations got wrong, and comparing the new agreements on bases that had previously failed.

    ‘Peace’ is not an actual policy. It is the result of other policies. It is like ‘justice’. Peace is not something you do, it is all the things you don’t do.

    All those previous agreements mandated end states, reliant on a whole lot of things not constrained. Trump’s agreements create an investment in a state of affairs that benefits from avoiding conflict. It creates a value in not fighting that the mere words do not possess.

    Scatballing inconsequent thinks those infatuated photo ops are the gold standard.

    What a retard.

  70. Catcalling Inebriate

    Mother Lode is a diplomat. Can we send her to Iraq – please? Clearly much to offer.

  71. Mother Lode

    So no actual counter argument to assert that Trump’s initiatives are as likely to fail as all the other ones which have been no more binding than the words of the passing convenience of political leaders.

    That is a kind of endorsement really.

  72. Mother Lode

    Oops – just noted the gap in time between mine and the previous comment.

    Bad form on my part.

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