Tuesday Forum: September 22, 2020

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  1. Rex Anger

    @ TE-

    Regarding the ‘War Crimes’ tribunal and trials and so forth, one can only wonder if this apparent act of stupidity in grabting immunity to ‘witnesses,’ is not stupidity at all, but legal and professional diligence on behalf of a great many people, who saw the entire thing as the poliicised sham it was.

    Whether or not any of it is true, let alone actionable, is out of the quesion. Whether there is any merit in the findings of any internal enquiries (which we know of from the hyper-spun and hyperbolic leaks made to Their ABC and the Grauniad) is up to SOCOMD and the ADF leadership.

    As a sop to a shit-ton of activists, felow travellers and seditious [censored] in all levels ofnthe APS, ADF and inteligentsia, this has been absolutely superb. For the little people on the receiving end, and interedted observers and ‘Old Boys’ like those on the Cat, it is devastating, arbitrary and blatantly wrong. And all official accountability will likely never be taken.

    One quietly hopes that the myriad of bugmen who inspired, instigated, investigated, invented, spun, leaked, lied and engineered this whole show trial are quietly visited in the dead of night by members of the units they wronged and smeared for their own personal satisfaction. And receive a quiet, but firm bop on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper. And told “Naughty!”

  2. Leigh Lowe

    Close to the top of the list …
    Secondment of Ernst and Young staff $4,998,000.
    August to January.
    We’re all in this together.

  3. Dr Faustus

    Reading through the Seven Tenets, I was struck by how closely they aligned with the unwritten code I had used to try to guide my own life for several years.

    Couldn’t help but Google.

    Seems that Satan has trawled through Facebook memes and cobbled together a random seven as a philosophical basis to snare the Very Stupid.

    Pretty sure this lady’s worldview is also influenced by Funny-Cute Cat videos.

  4. Zyconoclast

    The National Trust’s job is to conserve our history – not vilify its heroes

    Wordsworth, Kipling and Churchill are being subjected to 2020’s lens. What gives an elite minority the right to traduce our past?

    Churchill’s home on National Trust’s BLM list of shame
    The charity published a review of the links between its properties, and empire and slave trade in the wake of Black Lives Matter protests

    The National Trust has included Winston Churchill’s family home in a dossier of sites linked to “colonialism and slavery”, citing the former prime minister’s role in the Bengal famine and his opposition to Indian independence….

  5. The rolling average continues to drop.

    Victoria recorded 12 new coronavirus cases yesterday, which Mr Andrews described as “another strong number” that showed the “strategy is working”.

    More to come.

    Meanwhile in Kentucky.

  6. dover_beach

    Breaking news re Steele dossier:

    1) BREAKING, per
    @CBS_Herridge
    and extraordinary.
    So Christopher Steele’s main source for the dossier? He was the subject of a nearly two-year long FBI counter-intel investigation (2009-2011), under suspicion of being a Russian spy and a “threat to national security.”

    2) Early in Obama admin, subsource “reportedly attempted to recruit two individuals connected to an influential foreign policy advisor” to Obama. Said if they got jobs in the administration and access to classified information, he could help them “make a little extra money.”

    3) FBI says he had previously contact with the Russian Embassy and Russian intelligence officers. Thanks to
    @paulsperry_
    we know the name of this subsource, and that he for a period at this time at Brookings, Democratic think tank.

    4) But here’s the real kicker, per these documents out from
    @LindseyGrahamSC
    The FBI KNEW about this prior CI investigation into the source in DECEMBER OF 2016. It KNEW it was relying on information from a suspected Russian spy!

    5) The same FBI said to be concerned about Russian interference in election, was using information from a suspected Russian spy to probe a presidential campaign. The same FBI claiming Carter Page a Russian agent, was making that case based on info from a suspected Russia agent.

    6) Most importantly: It never told the FISA court about this CI investigation. It withheld that information and continued re-upping its applications to surveil Page and the campaign. It vouched for information supplied by a suspected Russian agent.

    7) The name of this subsource, and the realization of the FBI’s prior suspicions, should have ended the entire probe. Instead the FBI doubled down, hid things from the court, kept going. This again raises urgent need to know who knew what, and when.

    As always, when the Dems accuse you of something, they are actually doing it themselves.

  7. Nick

    As always, when the Dems accuse you of something, they are actually doing it themselves.

    Sounds like Faulty

  8. notafan

    Couldn’t round it up to five million. $2000 short.

    So precise.

  9. BLM = Bullying Leftist Mobs.

    Similar to other bullies in history.

  10. Leigh Lowe

    Sounds like Faulty

    Who?

  11. Zyconoclast

    University self-isolation: PPE to pee and running out of food

    Hundreds of students have been asked to self-isolate in their halls of residence following Covid outbreaks at several Scottish universities.

    They include 600 at the University of Glasgow and another 500 at Abertay University in Dundee. So what’s it like to self-isolate in a student flat?

    ‘I’m slowly running out of food’

  12. PeterM

    $2000 short

    There is probably a more rigorous approval process that kicks in at $5mill.

  13. dover_beach

    Extraordinary info overnight on Steele dossier. The FBI needs to be investigated. They’ve relied on a clearly tainted source. They withheld that info from the FISA court. They’ve allowed this to used to spy on a Presidential candidate. And then ignored this through the enitre Russia Investigation. Just extraordinary. Heads must roll.

  14. Rex Anger

    The rolling average continues to drop.

    Victoria recorded 12 new coronavirus cases yesterday, which Mr Andrews described as “another strong number” that showed the “strategy is working”.

    More to come.

    Meanwhile in Kentucky.

    Ermagerd, Jack Hunt!

    Kentucky has a 1.77% fatality rate of the 64,000-odd PCR results that came back postive!

    Wow!

    Did you pick Kentucky cos Republican? Or because it is not run by Cuomo, Democrate LockDrones or Maximum LockDan himself?

    Why not compare WA’s records, Jack Hunt? We are far closer to LockDanistan and your preferred species of fascistic police state (We’re just in the lower-security prison farm under Comrade Commandant Sneakers) than your despised ‘Land of The Shooting Spree’ will ever be…

    Have you ever considered not being Jack once in your lifespan, Jack Hunt?

  15. Zyconoclast

    China could be on the brink of exhausting its massive frozen pork reserves as the country’s pig herd is wiped out by African swine fever.

    Declining reserves are particularly bad news for the Communist Party of China, which is worried that it might not be able to prevent another destabilizing surge in prices.

  16. notafan

    Strategy of destroying Melbourne to save Melbourne is working.

    Back pats all round.

  17. Dr Faustus

    Extraordinary info overnight on Steele dossier. The FBI needs to be investigated. They’ve relied on a clearly tainted source. They withheld that info from the FISA court. They’ve allowed this to used to spy on a Presidential candidate. And then ignored this through the enitre Russia Investigation. Just extraordinary. Heads must roll.

    But…

    FBI director says widespread mail ballot interference would be a ‘major challenge’ for foreign agents

    FBI Director Christopher A. Wray told senators Thursday that the United States has not experienced large-scale voter fraud by mail or other means, and said it would be a “major challenge” for a foreign country to attempt such a thing…

    …adding that the FBI “would investigate seriously” if it saw indications of such an effort.

    No sure whether ‘foreign agents’ are the main concern – although the FBI will probably have a better idea about Hiden than I.

  18. Dr Faustus

    Victoria recorded 12 new coronavirus cases yesterday, which Mr Andrews described as “another strong number” that showed the “strategy is working”.

    Step 1: Engage Bozo the Clown;
    Step 2: Bozo honks his horn and sets fire to your house;
    Step 3: Clown Car pulls up – 27 clowns disembark and start pumping petrol onto the fire;
    Step 4: Fire burns out;
    Step 5: Claim “strategy is working“, refuse to answer unnecessary questions…

  19. Arky

    China could be on the brink of exhausting its massive frozen pork reserves

    ..
    Send ’em some Vicpol orificers.

  20. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Max Merritt gone to God.

  21. Fat Tony

    Arky
    #3596903, posted on September 25, 2020 at 11:19 am
    China could be on the brink of exhausting its massive frozen pork reserves
    ..
    Send ’em some Vicpol orificers

    Jeez Arky – we know they’ll eat just about anything, but I think they’d draw the line at something that putrid

  22. areff

    Help! I’ve been looking for specific Youtube footage of the bloke arrested on the ground last weekend in Elwood. He keeps protesting that he’s within 5km of home and has given his name. Anyone bookmarked it?

  23. liliana

    China could be on the brink of exhausting its massive frozen pork reserves as the country’s pig herd is wiped out by African swine fever.

    I read somewhere that pork is apparently very similar in flavour to human flesh. Interesting.

  24. lotocoti

    Just extraordinary. Heads must roll.

    Yeah nah.
    The Showtime miniseries is sure to paint the Fibbies whiter than white.

  25. Struth

    BLM

    Bigots Liars Marxists.

  26. Old School Conservative

    Victorians don’t seriously think that Dan Andrews set up an inquiry which had the potential to damage him directly, do they?
    At the very worst some minor factotum will get the wet lettuce leaf treatment.

  27. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Bigots Liars Marxists.

    Bigots Liars Murderers.

  28. dover_beach

    ‘Trump Was Right’: Explosive New FBI Texts Detail Internal Furor Over Handling Of ‘Crossfire Hurricane’ Investigation:

    Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) agents tasked by fired former Director James Comey to take down Donald Trump during and after the 2016 election were so concerned about the agency’s potentially illegal behavior that they purchased liability insurance to protect themselves less than two weeks before Trump was inaugurated president, previously hidden FBI text messages show. The explosive new communications and internal FBI notes were disclosed in federal court filings today from Sidney Powell, the attorney who heads Michael Flynn’s legal defense team.

    “[W]e all went and purchased professional liability insurance,” one agent texted on Jan. 10, 2017, the same day CNN leaked details that then-President-elect Trump had been briefed by Comey about the bogus Christopher Steele dossier. That briefing of Trump was used as a pretext to legitimize the debunked dossier, which was funded by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign and compiled by a foreign intelligence officer who was working for a sanctioned Russian oligarch.

    RTWT.

  29. Boambee John

    The inspector general, which has coercive questioning powers, offers an extraordinary level of ­immunity to witnesses known as “derivative use immunity”. It means prosecutors are unable to use “any information, document or thing obtained as a direct or indirect consequence” of evidence to the inspector general by a witness who is later charged.

    Brereton might be more cunning than many thought.

  30. thefrollickingmole

    Taleb is still God.

    https://twitter.com/LifeSkillGrowth/status/1307519532836290561/photo/1

    But its also almost directly against what kids are taught.
    We get out best and brightest and tell them working for a “not for profit” to help save the world is a noble calling, as opposed to generating enough wealth through providing a service to start their own.

  31. johanna

    Sorry to hear that Max Merritt is no longer with us. A great singer.

    He did a killer version of ‘I Put a Spell on You’ which used to be on Youtube but it looks like the copyright police have taken it (and a lot of his other old material) down since last time I looked.

    He was a wonderful live performer, a real pro who always delivered his best.

    Vale, Max.

  32. Makka

    The FBI needs to be investigated.

    That’s been apparent for a couple of years. Yet zip. That slime ball Mifzud is heavily implicated. He whores his services out to anyone – CIA, Mossad, MI6, FBI, GRU.

    It was FBI “contractors” that did the initial interrogations of the NSA data base that was an illegal dirt hunt for enemies of the left. Those “contractors” were put in place with the help of Clapper and Brennan. When Adm Rogers (D-NSA) shut that search option down to contractors, Clapper and Brennan went to Obambi and went ballistic. They tried to sack him but failed. One day after the election, Rogers informs Trump and immediately, same day, Trump vacates trump Towers.

    Adm Rogers is a true patriot.

  33. K2

    I’m west of Ballarat at around 1000ft elevation. Been bucketing snow for over an hour. Most I have ever seen around here.

  34. Boambee John

    notafan
    #3596878, posted on September 25, 2020 at 10:50 am
    Couldn’t round it up to five million. $2000 short.

    So precise.

    What odds that there are extra “governance” conditions that come into play at $5 million?

  35. Makka

    The FBI needs to be investigated.

    Have to boot Wray first. This is the dude who should head the FBI;

    https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell

  36. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Legalise Sedition at 7:47 am:

    “For the tape
    A senior health official extended Victoria’s curfew based on information … court documents reveal.”

    About judicial investigations …

    Why mugs call for judicial enquiries in the first place, in the belief they offer some sort of solution, mystifies me. They simply do not know their history. Why they then hang on every word and every action during the hearings amuses me.

    People should be more aware of how much they cost, who benefits financially and how they mean nothing.

    One does not need to be old and wise to know this – the trade unions enquiry was just five years back and the only thing of note from that was when a couple of unattractive junior solicitors claimed this year that Commissioner Justice Heydon liked to give the ferret a run at 70 odd and they were disappointed. They went to his hotel room ‘n all, but it was entirely his fault – because that allows them to go the gummint and him for munneeee.

    The Victorian enquiry will:

    1. hang some junior records clerk for reckless misfiling of documents;

    2. comment that the Premier really should appear at media events wearing a tie at all times, to dignify the office (and to distance him from his appearance as David Combe’s brother – an ALP Federal Secretary commo foot soldier from the ‘70s); and

    3. note his excellent effort, working very, very hard in demanding circumstances.

    Some sheila named Jennifer Coate is running the show – she’d be in the job as a gift from Comrade Kirner to her husband maybe (?), ALP old friend John Coates, for his sterling work touring the globe for 30 years with his gladstone bag of colourful beads, mirrors and Youth & Boys Club sauna membership bribes for African despots/IOC delegates – and a good job she will do. For the Attorney General and the Premier and the Party that judgeshipped her in the first place as a junior girlie and appointed her to an avalanche of other juicy appointments since.

    She got this gig at age 67 as a handy pension fund top up. I won’t be surprised if she does a test case study tour of Comrade Clip Clop Ardern’s prefecture, to examine how marvellously well she had performed as a healer (just in time for the NZ municipal council election in October).

    I’m tipping she will finish it all up with a flourish by recommending an award for the Government’s long overdue recognition of 743,656 years of seasoned experience in five star resort hotel security, perhaps to that Health Department pretend doctor/State medical commander sheila who found time to bag Captain Cook for ordering the First Fleeters to shoot all locals on sight.

    Similarly, Supreme Court judge Tim Ginnane is managing the action against Comrade Dan from a disappointed businessman rent asunder by lock down lock ups. Ginnane’s family has been part of what passes for law in Victoria for a couple of generations, his judicial career was sired by Brumby. He too is as old as buggery and he isn’t about to spill coffee on his classical Victorian legacy.

    Commissions of enquiry in the 2000s are right up there with that oft sighted, fabulously funny, revealingly naïve, plaintiff cry “The Governor General / Governor must act – surely”, surely.

  37. Rex Anger

    Sweden is touted by some as having done a sterling job of handling the pandemic.
    Let’s look at that.

    Their economy has retracted 8.3% in the second quarter of 2020.
    Australia has gone backwards 7% during the same period.

    1% difference. Oh noes. Come back to me with relative GDPs and losses calculated in a equivalent currency (Let’s go with C-Bills from Battletech for the lulz), and the I might consider attempting.to share your ‘concern.’

    Sweden has seven times our death rate.

    Sweden also has slightly less than half or total population. So the statstics will still look nasty. Again, so what? 6% rate of 90000 infected. Of a population of 10mil. Still pretty low relatively speaking.

    Somehow, laissez-faire, or herd immunity, sounds like a very dumb idea.

    Only to bugmen, LockDrones and Jack Hunts like you trying to cause fluster.

    Go chew on a crayon- Your blood sugar is low, and your trolling is equally low-energy.

  38. dover_beach

    Their economy has retracted 8.3% in the second quarter of 2020.
    Australia has gone backwards 7% during the same period.

    How much debt did fed and state governments here take up to soften the blow temporarily in comparison to the Swedes?

  39. Struth

    Hi Alan.
    I have come across many people who thing the borders being closed keeps them safe. It is the reason they support tyranny.
    Can you please mention the stupidity of this assumption on your show.
    Thousands of truckies (from Melbourne and other so called hotspots) have been travelling into QLD, WA and SA back and forth for months now, proof being they’d all be starving in those states and without so many products their heads would spin if not the case.

    If we can break that supply chain ignorance it will show the tyrants up for the liars they are.

    If thousands and thousands of interstate truckies are roaming through your state and have been for nearly eight months now, and you think your borders are closed, you are quite simply insane.
    They don’t stay in their trucks the whole time they are in your state, and they use many shared bathroom , toilet, and dining facilities, and deal with people all over the place.
    Not one virus case?????

    Thanks Alan.
    I feel it’s time that common sense may just be able to bash it’s way past the fear, even if it has taken all this time.

  40. notafan

    The Premier of Victoria called the judicial enquiry. In a state of emergency with zero accountability or transparency it’s better than nothing.

  41. Delta A

    I’m west of Ballarat at around 1000ft elevation.

    Brother lives around there. He just rang to tell me that snow has covered the ground.

  42. Makka

    In a state of emergency with zero accountability or transparency it’s better than nothing.

    Of course it is. At a minimum it shows all the Victorians so affected why and how their livelihoods have been ruined by this incompetent and malevolent dictator and how an elite class of worthless bureaucrats can fk the state with immediate impact yet remain immune from consequences.

    The big question remains; will that knowledge be sufficient to boot out Dan?

  43. Dr Faustus

    [FBI agents] …were so concerned about the agency’s potentially illegal behavior that they purchased liability insurance to protect themselves…

    FBI agents must have access to pretty special PI insurance. Insurance usually won’t respond to undisclosed prior events, or criminal conduct at all.

  44. Struth

    Hi Llew.

    Just to let you know I have died waiting for the response from your traitorous party.

    That’s right.
    I am dead.
    Let me assure you from the other side, I can look down below and see where you guys are all heading, and it ain’t pretty.

    You are unconstitutional criminals.
    Your silence is consent.
    Disgusting.

    Right wing voters aren’t stupid, and yes the preferential system does favour the big UN/China parties like yours, but from what I can see , some of the smaller parties like One Nation will be winning seats outright in the coming State election and there will be a backlash before the next federal one that will be against your UNiparties and toward any smaller parties and independents.
    Our constitution does not require parties and never mentions them.
    There is no mention of the position of PM.
    You are the representative for this electorate and I had asked you to call a halt to this unconstitutional garbage being enforced by threat of arms against us.
    You have past the buck and obfuscated , and it’s a good thing I have died waiting for your response or I’d be really upset.

    I died of embarrassment for my country, as I could not stand seeing the PM of this country unconstitutionally empower little tyrants to screw the place while he sat back and funded it.
    All with your silent consent.
    They have a special place reserved for you lot here, I can assure you of that.

    Boo.
    The once free Australian, Peter B.

  45. K2

    Delta A,

    It’s inches thick. Winter wonderland. Neighbour has been here 30 years and never seen snow like it.

    You get the odd sprinkling maybe once every winter or three but never like this. Where’s Flannery?

  46. Top Ender

    Rex Anger…@ TE-…Regarding the ‘War Crimes’ tribunal and trials and so forth…

    I hear Ben Roberts-Smith is now no longer asked for by community groups, such is the level of controversy these “trials” have generated.

    And is this really how the country wants its bravest soldiers treated?

    One can only hope there is a level of hell reserved for those who are pursuing him.

  47. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    And is this really how the country wants its bravest soldiers treated?

    When recruiting figures are at an all time low, when re-engagement statistics are non – existent, when applications for Special Air Service selection have dried up, the swivel chair hussars will write memos to each other wanting to know why?

  48. Leigh Lowe

    K2

    #3596937, posted on September 25, 2020 at 11:46 am

    I’m west of Ballarat at around 1000ft elevation. Been bucketing snow for over an hour. Most I have ever seen around here.

    We used to be a bit above 600′ and would get snow a couple of times a year, but it rarely settled on the ground.

  49. Bruce of Newcastle

    FBI agents must have access to pretty special PI insurance.

    I suspect insurance companies know an 800lb gorilla when they see one.

  50. feelthebern

    Grenell should have been selected to run the CIA.

  51. K2

    Leigh.

    It looks like Mt. Buller here. Unprecedented! LOL

  52. Leigh Lowe

    FBI agents must have access to pretty special PI insurance.

    Yeah, nah … void.
    Two things PI won’t cover:-
    1. Deliberate and malicious breach of professional standards;
    2. Stuff you have already done.

  53. Yeah, nah … void.
    Two things PI won’t cover:-
    1. Deliberate and malicious breach of professional standards;
    2. Stuff you have already done.

    This does not prevent really intelligent & switched FBI type guys from purchasing a “liability insurance” that some broker shoved across the desk at them.

    Or smarter FBI agents from texting about the impossible to a total dupe fellow agent.

    Or perhaps the whole story is a big mob of bullzhit.

  54. Top Ender

    WE WILL NEVER FORGET

    TIM SMITH

    I don’t recall. No, those meeting notes with my name do not jog my memory. The decision to use security guards was already made, I don’t know by who. That was not my responsibility. I heard something about the ADF, but I don’t recall what.

    Each senior figure speaking before the hotel quarantine inquiry should be made to read the transcript of their evidence and donate a considerable sum from their handsome taxpayer-funded salaries to the victims of this disaster for every time they used a version of those words.

    Hundreds of Victorians have died. Thousands of businesses have collapsed. Hundreds of thousands of Victorians have lost their jobs.

    The people entrusted to navigate Victoria through this pandemic steered it onto the rocks of the second wave — and are now they obfuscate, buck pass, dissemble and perhaps even lie under oath. It is a conga line of incompetence, insincerity and insensitivity. And it is a gross insult to the families who have lost loved ones because of them.

    Premier Daniel Andrews has hidden behind this inquiry each time he’s been asked about the catastrophic decisions made by his government in the establishment and running of the hotel quarantine program. He has hidden behind the inquiry even when the former judge running it made it clear there was nothing stopping him talking about it.

    He promised Victorians that the inquiry would get to the bottom of what had occurred, which he conceded had involved grave mistakes that led to the devastating second wave and heartbreaking loss of life.

    Adding insult to grotesque injury, the most senior witnesses to the inquiry this week have been a pantomime of amnesia, bureau-babble and cowardice.

    From the secretary of the Victorian Department of Premier and Cabinet Chris Eccles saying he sometimes had no recollection from meetings he had chaired, to the forgetful police commissioners (past and present) who couldn’t remember what notes they wrote at the meetings.

    We’ve had three senior ministers say repeatedly that they weren’t aware of matters within their portfolios and didn’t seek to ask any questions about them.

    We’ve had a cringeworthy performance from the Secretary of the Department of Health which has left everybody reeling at the fact that she is in charge of our entire health system, let alone the pandemic response.

    We’ve had spaghetti bowl organisational charts and utopian mission statements. We’ve had emergency management plans with more acronyms than a United Nations summit.

    But nobody — not a single person — has said they were responsible for the decision to use private security guards instead of police or the ADF, or that they could possibly identify who was.

    It’s beyond farce. It’s beyond an embarrassment. It is undisguised contempt for Victorians. It insults our dead and compounds their families’ grief.

    The Andrews government caused this second wave. And it’s now clear how it happened when you see the calibre and character of the people in charge. They reflect the character and calibre of the bloke who put them there.

    There is no honour in these people and the person who leads them. They have no interest in easing the pain of Victorians. They have no interest in giving grieving families answers, or devastated business owners the truth about why a lifetime’s work has been sacrificed.

    They are just out to save themselves. That none is accepting responsibility for the greatest public policy failure in living memory means everybody must. Starting from the top.

    But Andrews can redeem himself on Friday by doing what a true leader should: accept responsibility, and apologise to Victorians. Then show he means both by relinquishing his position and gracefully exiting Victorians’ lives. The deaths have been too many, the destruction too great, and his culpability too deep for any other course of action.

    Tim Smith is the member for Kew in the Victorian parliament.

    Oz print edition

  55. Arnost

    Max Merritt gone to God.

    Didn’t Struth set one of his protest songs to Slippin’ Away? Hope hearing that didn’t push him over!

    Go with God Max!

  56. Leigh Lowe

    Not saying they weren’t sold a policy Sal.
    What I am saying is that PI policies don’t cover those not acting in good faith.

  57. Not saying they weren’t sold a policy Sal.
    What I am saying is that PI policies don’t cover those not acting in good faith.

    That IS what I said. 👌

  58. Herodotus

    Max’s drummer was eventually the virtuoso (also jazz man) Stewie Speer.

  59. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Another addition to the Beyond Parody Files:

    Just look at this ridiculous rubbish.

  60. Shy Ted

    K2 #3596937, posted on September 25, 2020 at 11:46 am
    I’m west of Ballarat at around 1000ft elevation. Been bucketing snow for over an hour. Most I have ever seen around here.

    Ah yes, global warming. Or Covid. I can’t keep up with what’s causing it. Might be Trump. But don’t worry, white snow doesn’t matter. And if you work at the ABC or the Guardian, you’re fired for spreading misinformation.

  61. vlad

    Is it:
    A method of attracting the opposite sex?
    A way to tell a story?
    A means of evoking feelings?
    A distraction or a motivation?

    Yes.

  62. Herodotus

    Archibald Art Prize awarded to first aboriginal, with a portrait of Adam Goodes.
    “It only took 99 years”.
    How many aboriginal entries in that time?

  63. vlad

    If the world was composed of Arkys from time immemorial, the only music in existence would be syncopated banging on various objects and tuneless humming.

    That’s what it was like for the first million years or so.

  64. Archibald Art Prize awarded to first aboriginal, with a portrait of Adam Goodes.
    “It only took 99 years”.
    How many aboriginal entries in that time?

    Shame it was awarded coz of aboriginality instead of because of talent.
    Coz that painting is terrible.

  65. Entropy

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3596988, posted on September 25, 2020 at 12:31 pm
    And is this really how the country wants its bravest soldiers treated?

    When recruiting figures are at an all time low, when re-engagement statistics are non – existent, when applications for Special Air Service selection have dried up, the swivel chair hussars will write memos to each other wanting to know why

    Needs moar diversiteh. Moar!

  66. Leigh Lowe

    Not saying they weren’t sold a policy Sal.
    What I am saying is that PI policies don’t cover those not acting in good faith.

    That IS what I said. 👌

    Righto.
    It sounds like they rang the broker after the house caught fire.

  67. Arky

    I have just completed my entry for the 2021 Archibald.
    It is a portrait of George Floyd entitled: End the Oppressive White Homophobic Transphobic Racist Sexist Patriarchy NOW:

  68. Arky

    As a proud Rangiora man, I feel youse should give me the prize.

  69. Leigh Lowe

    Spurgeon Monkfish III
    #3597012, posted on September 25, 2020 at 1:02 pm
    Another addition to the Beyond Parody Files:

    Just look at this ridiculous rubbish.

    What is that?

  70. thefrollickingmole

    Thats an ugly painting.
    Complete with the rip off of Winmars “hold up the shirt and point at skin” pose appropriated by Goodes in his transformation into the incredible Sulk.

    And it is a rather simian looking face, if a cartoonist drew it Im pretty sure theyd be pilloried as a racist.

  71. rickw

    It is a portrait of George Floyd entitled: End the Oppressive White Homophobic Transphobic Racist Sexist Patriarchy NOW:

    Just beautiful, I have tears welling up in my eyes, so powerful!

  72. thefrollickingmole

    Ill see your George Floyd entitled: End the Oppressive White Homophobic Transphobic Racist Sexist Patriarchy NOW: and raise you “Oh god! [email protected]!! the world will end in fire and ruin because patriachymanbearpig as Gaia weeps!!!

    https://youtu.be/wKFZOIv5sS0

    Your move pilgrim.

  73. Megan

    That Archibald win is a participation prize. The rest of the indigenous finalists were equally execrable.

    How to turn everything into a pathetic joke.

  74. Entropy

    And brave. Powerful and brave.

  75. thefrollickingmole

    And brave. Powerful and brave.

    I hope you are literally shaking.
    If you arent you may be Hitler.

  76. feelthebern

    Hopefully the Cat banner will be changed to the Archibald Prize winning portrait.

  77. Arky

    Just beautiful, I have tears welling up in my eyes, so powerful!

    ..
    It’s on exhibit as an audio- visual presentation at the Arky Museum of Fine Art, with an 8 hour commentary and an recorded loop of noises I made on the toilet one morning last March.

  78. It sounds like they rang the broker after the house caught fire.

    & the broker detecting the note of desperation in their voice, capitalised on their situation & sold them a “sounds like fire, but actually for flood” policy.

  79. vlad

    strategy is working

    Endless lockdowns and hoping something will turn up is not a strategy.

  80. Mother Lode

    ‘Trump Was Right’: Explosive New FBI Texts Detail Internal Furor Over Handling Of ‘Crossfire Hurricane’ Investigation:

    CBS is going to run some program (two part mini-series, I believe) where they are dramatising Comey’s book.

    I was surprised it was not a Netflix Original.

    Should be glad it is not HBO – the over-the-top raunchiness and explicit sex coupled (pardon the pun) with characters like the wobbly lush Clinton and her mummified husband, the menacing hulk called Michelle Obama and her stammering jug-eared pipe-cleaner Barack, plus Feinsteins and Pelosis etc would see near simultaneous defenestrations of televisions and such sudden flushings of toilets that damn pipes would shudder with water hammer.

    Yech!

  81. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Herodotus at 1:05 pm:

    “Archibald Art Prize awarded to first aboriginal, with a portrait of Adam Goodes.
    “It only took 99 years”.
    How many aboriginal entries in that time?”

    No – do please tell me it isn’t true! I saw that infants school effort when the subject was covered here early this week.

    I am afraid to type in Archi …etc to bring up a news site.

    The only consolation is the Archibald Prize has the integrity of Australian of the Year and the Gold Logie for the politically correctest.

  82. Arnost

    Coz that painting is terrible.

    I think that the Archibald has long been drifting to wokeness. But the Packer’s prize is an indig painter too! It’s a good un… certainly better than the Goodes crap.

  83. thefrollickingmole

    Riddle me this….

    What is being whined about in this story.
    Its from Kiwistan.

    1st the different sectors..
    (hairdressers, manicurists, beauticians, domestic cleaners, personal trainers, gymnasiums) ……was not allowed. Business owners and workers in these industries were told they could not offer services which involved face-to-face or sustained close personal contact; the risk of Covid transmission was too great.

    vs

    ..tradies, construction workers, street repairers, telecommunication technicians –…… – were amongst the “essential” workers that were allowed to return to work first under alert level 3.

    It also includes this wonderful statement…

    In terms of the immediate return on investment there is little difference between investing public money to stimulate job creation in the private or the public sector. Or in sectors that employ more men or employ more women. At the end of the day, more jobs means more people paying tax, stimulating the economy through consumption, and less reliance on the state to balance income inequality through income tax redistribution.

    Claire Robinson is professor of communication design at Massey University.

  84. K2

    Adam Rundt on Sky News Day at the moment. Talking ‘climate crisis’. Used the term ‘global warming’.

    Outside his window it is on track to be the coldest September day in Melbourne since 1969.

  85. At the end of the day, more jobs means more people paying tax, stimulating the economy through consumption, and less reliance on the state to balance income inequality through income tax redistribution.
    Claire Robinson is professor …..

    FMD

  86. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “Archibald Art Prize awarded to first aboriginal, with a portrait of Adam Goodes.
    “It only took 99 years”.
    How many aboriginal entries in that time?”

    Vincent Namatjira has become the first Indigenous artist to win the Archibald Prize with his portrait of Adam Goodes, called Stand Strong for Who You Are.

    The great-grandson of watercolourist Albert Namatjira, Vincent Namatjira said it “only took 99 years” for an Indigenous artist to win the award.

  87. twostix

    Claire Robinson is professor of communication design

    How would civilization exist without her doing that.

  88. Bruce of Newcastle

    Mole – I won’t click the grauniad link, but I’d guess a she-covery from the she-cession involves she-aring she-ep. Surely shes of Kiwiland would fall over themselves to do sheep shearing. That would be true equality!

    Maybe Professor Claire Robertson could do a long research paper on feminist sheep shearers in the NZ wool industry, if she can find one.

  89. thefrollickingmole

    You caught the giveaway in the link.

    Yes its another ‘why women are shit” article where ladies life/job choices are presented as the result of patriarchy and oppression.

    I hope you noted the scare quotes around the “essential jobs” list for me.
    tradies: (god they hate tradies), they would be the ones keeping your shitter unflocked, your lights on etc
    construction workers: Because leaving 1/2 constructed shells and ceasing housing people would be a great idea.
    street repairers: Because everything appears on shop shelves by magic, and leaving roads to deteriorate into goat tracks wouldnt cost any extra later on…
    telecommunication technicians: She wrote, without irony, on her computer before emailing it off…

  90. feelthebern

    Amazing how woke the arts community says they are, but this is the first indigenous artist to win.
    Like Hollywood.
    They do something two seconds before the rest of society & then walk around all pious, sniffing their own farts (h/t South Park).

  91. Mother Lode

    Archibald Art Prize awarded to first aboriginal, with a portrait of Adam Goodes.

    I thought it was a mural on a wall. Not the supposed (annual) pinnacle of portraiture.

    Amusing that it includes the Aboriginal flag just when Marcia Langton wants to change it.

  92. K2

    Vincent Namatjira, eh?

    Obviously some Aborigines are more equal than others.

  93. twostix

    In terms of the immediate return on investment there is little difference between investing public money to stimulate job creation in the private or the public sector. Or in sectors that employ more men or employ more women. At the end of the day, more jobs means more people paying tax, stimulating the economy through consumption, and less reliance on the state to balance income inequality through income tax redistribution.
    Claire Robinson is professor of communication design at Massey Univers

    If anyone wants to know what’s happening here, is this class of people – largely childless, are simply smash and grabbing money from two generations down the line, spending it now and saying “see! the world is no different, it doesn’t matter what we do!”.

  94. calli

    Horrible, childish daub.

    Surprised the “racist“ 13 year old didn’t get a look in.

  95. Dr Faustus

    Daniel Andrews has sworn on a bible ahead of his evidence to the Victorian hotel quarantine inquiry.

    The alter cloth at St Pat’s just caught fire.

  96. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    The other interesting (OK, well it’s not really) inclusion in that appalling Yarchibald winner is the ripped off reference to Nicki Winmar’s shirt lifting posturing.

  97. incoherent rambler

    Daniel Andrews has sworn on a bible ahead of his evidence to the Victorian hotel quarantine inquiry.

    Was he holding a 1-iron above his head?

  98. Makka

    Dr Dan Andrews : ” The operation was completely successful but alas the patient (Victoria) died”.

  99. Robber Baron

    I’m watching Marxist leader Andrews lying at the inquiry. His first lie was promising to tell the truth when he was sworn in.

    He is maintaining a straight face.

  100. Cassie of Sydney

    ““Archibald Art Prize”

    Sadly the Archibald prize lost credibility years ago. I used to look forward to going to view the portraits but now, like everything else, it has now become a temple of woke mediocrity. Also, you can clearly see that many artists are painting pictures from photos.

  101. It seems nobody knows the name Albert Namatjira or who he was.

    Favourite part of the Archibald win:
    Their ABC talking head explaining to the viewing public where the winning artist hailed from.
    His name, somebody-or-other-Namatjira, was meaningless to the studio talking head who clearly expected it to be meaningless to the viewing public – probably was too.

    Mr. Albert Namatjira must be an “Uncle Tom”

  102. …like everything else, it has now become a temple of woke mediocrity. Also, you can clearly see that many artists are painting pictures from photos.

    Oh, I dunno about that. Most of those artists do a very fine job, coz no matter how hard you squiz at the painting, even the lighter colours, you can’t even see where they’ve painted over the little numbers.

  103. Des Deskperson

    ‘Archibald Art Prize awarded to first aboriginal, with a portrait of Adam Goodes.’

    Year 10 art class mural on the demountable classroom wall. It’s actually an unintended caricature of Goodes. If a whitey painted it, it would be racist.

    I actually liked the Magda S one

  104. Arnost

    Albert Namatjira

    Didn’t he die 60 years ago?

  105. JC

    Stix

    Calm down. Your proposition would be concerning if we were in a zero inflation world and a zero sum economy. You should also keep in mind the Hoovers raking in the job keeper and job seeker cash is YOUR generation.

    I’ve never seen a credit go into my back account from the government and there are a lot us.

  106. JC

    You’re an art history major now driller?

  107. calli

    If a whitey painted it, it would be racist.

    Erm…yes. Perhaps my comment above was a little too oblique.

  108. William the Conjuror

    Counsel Assisting says “um” far too many times.

  109. Roger

    The great-grandson of watercolourist Albert Namatjira, Vincent Namatjira said it “only took 99 years” for an Indigenous artist to win the award.

    Matey, your famous and much loved by white folks great grand-dad was ostracised by his own people because he married outside his skin group.

    Clean your own house first, eh?

  110. thefrollickingmole

    If only there was some clue, even the smallest indication of some common thread which might offer an explanation beyond blaming 50% of the population??
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/24/french-police-investigate-attack-on-woman-22-for-wearing-skirt
    French police have opened an investigation after a young woman said she was attacked by three men and beaten in public for wearing a skirt.

    The government denounced the “very serious” incident as unacceptable, which came amid growing anger in France at physical and verbal abuse towards women over their dress in public.

    The student, 22, identified only as Elisabeth, said she was punched in the face in the eastern city of Strasbourg on Friday afternoon, in an attack “by three individuals who complained about me wearing a skirt”.

    She was walking home when one of the three exclaimed “look at that whore in a skirt”, Elisabeth told France Bleu Alsace radio. Two of them then held her while the third hit her in the face, leaving her with a black eye, she told the radio station. The men then fled.

    She said there were more than a dozen witnesses but no one intervened or pursued the attackers.

    A picture of Elisabeth’s bruised face was posted on the Twitter account of France Bleu Alsace and went viral, provoking fury among social media users.

    “The facts as stated are very serious,” said the government’s spokesman, Gabriel Attal. “In France we must be able to go out dressed in the street as we want. We cannot accept that today in France, a woman feels in danger, either harassed, threatened or beaten because of how she dresses.”

    The junior interior minister in charge of equality issues, Marlène Schiappa, visited Strasbourg on Wednesday to discuss the safety of women in public.

    “When we witness street harassment, sexist or sexual assault against women in a public space, we must react, and call the police or the gendarmerie,” she told the LCI television channel.

    President Emmanuel Macron’s centrist government has in recent weeks begun using increasingly tough rhetoric on domestic security issues in what analysts see as a shift to the right.

    On Thursday a man was handed a two-month suspended jail sentence in another case, for assaulting two women – one of whose outfit he claimed was too short.

    The 18-year-old was detained on Wednesday and sentenced a day later under a special fast-track procedure allowed under French law.

    The two women were waiting for a tram in Mulhouse when the man told the woman who was wearing mini-shorts: “Don’t you want to dress even shorter?” He subsequently pushed the young woman who fell to the ground.

    In addition to the suspended sentence, the man was ordered to undergo 75 hours of community service and have citizenship classes.

  111. Makka

    So it’s clear that at the time Andrews stated before the quarantine in hotels began that the enforcement model at the hotels included Police.

  112. Albert Namatjira
    Didn’t he die 60 years ago?

    I didn’t realise his achievements were so shit that he’d be forgotten.
    Particularly by people who’re interested enough in art type stuff to tune in to the Archibald Prize.

  113. Some History

    It’s funny watching the Hunchback at the inquiry. He’s usually very verbose. But here he’s reduced to mostly, “Yes” or “Yes, that’s correct”. It reminds of the wary responses of Alan and Charlie at a dinner date.

  114. Anyone remotely interested in Australiana (the ABC “loves” Australia, remember) knows exactly who is Albert Namatjire, and his art style.
    His ability to produce fine art, & lots of it, may be the trigger for the wanker left’s amnesia regards Mr. Namatjira (the artist one, not the finger-painter).

  115. calli

    I loved this one. But she is much too beautiful to win.

  116. Some History

    “Yes. Yes, I am the Premier”.

  117. How odd that a group of politicians and high level military would try to railroad a unit of men who had world class proficiency in unarmed combat, very high levels of marksmanship, detailed knowledge of explosives, and a proven record of finishing any mission against any enemy?
    I certainly wouldn’t try to ruin their careers using a warped legal system and then expect that same legal system to keep myself safe.
    An interesting question: who provides the bodyguards for the accusers?

  118. thefrollickingmole

    Oh dear.
    Arky some advice.

    My darling wife has just ordered 3 identical outfits for myself, her and the little bloke.
    Do I surrender to the inevitable death of my soul and emasculation as we wear it in public or does the package get mysteriously & suddenly damaged before it arrives only for her to order a fresh set?

  119. Was it a little red book ?

    “Daniel Andrews has sworn on a bible ahead of his evidence to the Victorian hotel quarantine inquiry”

  120. cohenite

    Here’s the woman.

    This is what she wrote:

    LONDON (Project Syndicate)—As COVID-19 spread earlier this year, governments introduced lockdowns in order to prevent a public-health emergency from spinning out of control. In the near future, the world may need to resort to lockdowns again—this time to tackle a climate emergency.

    Shifting Arctic ice, raging wildfires in western U.S. states and elsewhere, and methane leaks in the North Sea are all warning signs that we are approaching a tipping point on climate change, when protecting the future of civilization will require dramatic interventions.

    The world is approaching a tipping point on climate change, when protecting the future of civilization will require dramatic interventions. Avoiding this scenario will require a green economic transformation—and thus a radical overhaul of corporate governance, finance, policy, and energy systems.
    Under a “climate lockdown,” governments would limit private-vehicle use, ban consumption of red meat, and impose extreme energy-saving measures, while fossil-fuel companies would have to stop drilling. To avoid such a scenario, we must overhaul our economic structures and do capitalism differently….

    Who is she: Mariana Mazzucato, professor in the economics of innovation and public value at University College London and founding director of the UCL Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose, is the author of “The Value of Everything: Making and Taking in the Global Economy” and “The Entrepreneurial State: Debunking Public vs. Private Sector Myths. “

    The comments are sensible; but if I met her I wouldn’t be as polite as the comments.

  121. Des Deskperson

    ‘Perhaps my comment above was a little too oblique.’

    No, any less oblique and it could have caused trouble. I’m just a bit slow today. Winter again here in Weston Creek

  122. Tim Neilson

    Their economy has retracted 8.3% in the second quarter of 2020.
    Australia has gone backwards 7% during the same period.

    How much did Sweden’s exports of iron ore, bauxite and coal contract?

  123. Good afternoon all.
    Glenn Wheatley has a column in today’s Hun. It begins thusly:

    ‘The so-called freedom protests were not sanctioned by the police, or the Victorian government. Nor was the use of John Farnham’s song You’re The Voice.’

    Goes on to say he doesn’t deny anyone the right to protest, but calls those who participate selfish and not to use that idiotic ditty. Wheatley doesn’t want it used as a protest song. The column ends:

    ‘I implore the protesters to find their own song and use their own voice, and not the voice of John Farnham.’

    I am guessing now that the song will be played at eleventh by protesters upon reading this bilge. FMD what a poxy article

  124. Arky

    thefrollickingmole
    #3597119, posted on September 25, 2020 at 3:09 pm
    Oh dear.
    Arky some advice.

    ..
    leave your wife and family and all worldly possessions and travel the world getting into zany adventures as you battle injustice and racism and curing women everywhere you go of their frigidity and hysteria.

  125. Mole, the coordinated outfits are only acceptable if you display your superpowers while wearing them.

  126. Arky

    * advice may contain traces of nuts.
    I don’t want a repeat of that one when my mate asked me what I thought of his smoking blonde girlfriend with the enchanting Irish lilt and enormous boobies and I jokingly told him to dump her.
    And he did.

  127. DrBeauGan

    leave your wife and family and all worldly possessions and travel the world getting into zany adventures as you battle injustice and racism and curing women everywhere you go of their frigidity and hysteria.

    But don’t post any of it on the Çat, or people will get envious.

  128. Arky

    That chick was sooooo nice and stunningly pretty it hurt.
    Oh well.

  129. Bruce of Newcastle

    Goes on to say he doesn’t deny anyone the right to protest, but calls those who participate selfish

    Like those terribly selfish people escaping over the Berlin Wall who denied the State of their labour?

  130. Makka

    Andrews looks like he is shrinking on screen.

  131. areff

    Re Glenn Wheatley. We should all heed the advice of tax cheats, drunk drivers and ex-jailbirds.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/wheatley-sent-to-jail-over-tax-fraud-20070720-gdqnto.html

  132. Mother Lode

    Of course people have the right to protest.

    But something surely must be done about those who would use that right.

    He also said he would be standing in the front lines defending people’s right to free speech, and if they stuck to pre-approved opinions all would be well. But people who say problematic and unhelpful things should be locked up.

  133. Rex Anger:

    Have you ever considered not being Jack once in your lifespan, Jack Hunt?

    Only when convincing himself he wasn’t a dupe, Rex.

  134. Sinclair Davidson

    areff – depriving the state of money is the Lord’s work. Almost patriotic.

  135. thefrollickingmole

    leave your wife and family and all worldly possessions and travel the world getting into zany adventures as you battle injustice and racism and curing women everywhere you go of their frigidity and hysteria.

    Again??
    The callouses on my girthy appendages have only just worn off from last time.
    You can see the trail of sane, satisfied wimmins I left behind me in my “just the costal states” USA tour.

  136. Leigh Lowe

    Black Ball
    #3597133, posted on September 25, 2020 at 3:34 pm
    Good afternoon all.
    Glenn Wheatley has a column in today’s Hun. It begins thusly:

    I am a convicted tax evader and have no right to lecture anyone about morals, ethics and misuse of IP.
    I will now fuck off.
    Thank you.

  137. Leigh Lowe

    Sinclair Davidson
    #3597153, posted on September 25, 2020 at 3:48 pm
    areff – depriving the state of money is the Lord’s work. Almost patriotic.

    Hmmm.
    Possibly.
    But don’t you then forfeit the right to lecture others about following the diktats of the politburo?

  138. Leigh Lowe

    The Central Committee of the Party has decided.
    Miss Greece 1973 is going under the bus.

  139. lotocoti

    Goes on to say he doesn’t deny anyone the right to protest, but calls those who participate selfish

    The people should keep their minds upon their labours and leave matters of the State to the State.

  140. Sinclair Davidson

    There may be good reason to dislike Glenn Wheatley – being a convicted tax cheat isn’t one of those reasons.

  141. twostix

    You should also keep in mind the Hoovers raking in the job keeper and job seeker cash is YOUR generation.

    Boomer to everyone else “We shut down the economy for our benefit in retirement you now out of work dole bludgers, not yours!”

  142. Makka

    Andrews just threw Eccles under the bus on availability of ADF assistance. Eccles knew of the availability but didn’t pass it on to Andrews or anyone else.

  143. max

    In lockdown with an earworm.

    Wo .. o .. oooh.
    And it’s breakin’ me in two.

    Has Max Merritt been offered a State funeral yet ?

    Not hard to guess what would be played as they carried him out.

  144. thefrollickingmole

    Im sure Mr Whealy will be along shortly to decry this bit of protesting…

    Global school strike for climate change movement resumes, with protests taking place across Australia

    This is not the onion…

    Year 10 student, Natasha, said as a young person living in Western Sydney she was already being impacted by climate change.

    “We need to acknowledge that the climate crisis is going to affect some more than others, particularly less privileged areas and groups of marginalised people,” she said.

    “The temperatures here in summer approach almost unliveable levels, with Penrith having days nearing 50 degrees.”
    There’s a huge bush right behind my house, during the bushfire season I didn’t know what would happen, I didn’t know if I was safe and I was scared.

    “The anxiety this crisis caused is irreversible and it’s only going to get worse if we don’t take meaningful climate action now.”


    And oh deary me, Im sure they will be along to decry the rampant sexism in this pic.
    Why its worse than ditch the witch!!!

  145. Old Lefty

    I get the impression that Eccles will be joining Mikakos under the bus.

  146. Steve trickler

    Hello all. This tribute is a classic. 4:37



  147. Makka

    Stix, it is your generation that shut down the Vic economy. Not a boomer.

  148. Old School Conservative

    My darling wife has just ordered 3 identical outfits for myself, her and the little bloke.

    Tell her you will wear it with pride on the next American Cruise ship you all go on.

  149. Roger

    Eccles knew of the availability but didn’t pass it on to Andrews or anyone else.

    Unforunately for Chairman Dan it has already been revealed that Morrison personally pleaded with him to accept the ADF offer.

    Whatever Eccles did or didn’t do, while important, is not the crux of the matter.

  150. Rex Anger

    An interesting question: who provides the bodyguards for the accusers?

    Officially, it is supposed to be the Military Police. The RACMP train close protection units.

    In practice, the Powers That Be have tended towards the SASR where the environment is anything less than benign.

    An interesting predilection, given what we are discussing. Fortunately for all, Operators tend to show far greater professionalism and character tham their detractors and abusers ever will…

  151. Bundyrum

    Funny how only a year or so ago white men were the enemy, now the whole white race is the enemy.
    Didn’t take the left long to hate us all, they even convinced white people to hate themselves.
    It is going to take some serious action action to turn this upside world around.
    The media need some serious rules put in place to cease their leftist propaganda, social media too.
    Ain’t gonna happen with the fkn useless socialist PM we have.

  152. Makka

    Whatever Eccles did or didn’t do, while important, is not the crux of the matter.

    True. But in the context of Dan’s testimony, he’s throwing out the bodies, hoping he will be left intact.

  153. Leigh Lowe

    Old Lefty
    #3597167, posted on September 25, 2020 at 3:57 pm
    I get the impression that Eccles will be joining Mikakos under the bus.

    Freakin’ hilarious.
    He has spent 25 years playing “the Minister doesn’t need to hear that”, and now he is going to be shopped by Dan Xi-Man for doing exactly that.

  154. Roger

    True. But in the context of Dan’s testimony, he’s throwing out the bodies, hoping he will be left intact.

    Yes, he’s a shameless liar, on top of all his other winning attributes.

  155. WTF?

    That Archibald Prize is normal for Year 10 and exceptional for Year 8.

    But it is not the work of a professional artist.

    Is it a joke? Or are people too cowardly to say it’s shit because he’s black?

    Fuck off you turtlenecked, thick rimmed cowards.

  156. Arky

    Someone has a low opinion of Year 8s.

  157. Cassie of Sydney

    “Legalise Sedition
    #3597184, posted on September 25, 2020 at 4:13 pm
    WTF?

    That Archibald Prize is normal for Year 10 and exceptional for Year 8.

    But it is not the work of a professional artist.

    Is it a joke? Or are people too cowardly to say it’s shit because he’s black?

    Fuck off you turtlenecked, thick rimmed cowards.”

    Everything you have said is correct. It is actually a disgrace.

  158. Leigh Lowe

    Roger
    #3597174, posted on September 25, 2020 at 4:07 pm
    Eccles knew of the availability but didn’t pass it on to Andrews or anyone else.

    Unforunately for Chairman Dan it has already been revealed that Morrison personally pleaded with him to accept the ADF offer.

    Whatever Eccles did or didn’t do, while important, is not the crux of the matter.

    Exactly.
    As I said, this is standard practice in politics and also in large corporates.
    “Don’t Tell The Boss”.
    There is a book out carrying that title (or something similar) about VikPol.
    Of course, anyone who is half smart knows that the Premier/CEO/PM/Board Member is building a case to throw an underling into the path of an oncoming bus … “I am appalled and horrified and disappointed that I was not told sooner, but I have now taken decisive action”.
    Anyone who is smart simply puts it in writing without warning and maybe includes reference to the CEO requesting that the previous informal verbal advice of said fuck-up be withheld from him.
    It makes for frosty relations for a while, but, in a perverse way, it actually affords protection for the underling. It makes you unfireable.

  159. woolfe

    Andrew Hastie on Facebook issues a statement about the arrest of Joshua Wong in Hong Hong.

    Totally roasted in comments about not saying anything about Victoria and the arrests there.

  160. Cassie of Sydney

    This is what is needed here in Australia when dealing with the sinister far-left and progressive Sleeping Midgets and Mad Effing Witches…we need people and companies with spine to stand up to these activist groups…..

    The Spectator, a British grocery store and cancel culture — a cautionary tale
    Companies wisely stay out of party political battles, so why enter the culture wars and disparage a chunk of your customers?
    Fraser Nelson

    Earlier this month, there was a bit of a fuss when the Co-op’s Twitter account said it would not be advertising in The Spectator due to our coverage of transgender issues. This is a pernicious trend in the media and The Spectator has a policy of refusing to deal with corporates who indulge in such cancel culture. It’s a firm principle of ours, but not one I expected to apply to the Co-op — the British grocery store is one of the few outfits to have explicitly stated its commitment to diversity of opinion.

    I emailed the Co-op to ask what on earth had happened, and tried (unsuccessfully) to convey how serious this was. As I suspected they had been targeted by a troll farm called Stop Funding Hate which goes after corporates who advertise in publications with which they disagree. The idea is to find 30 or 40 activists — sometimes far fewer — to target the corporation’s Twitter account and persuade the social media manager that there’s some kind of a national uproar. If this trick works, the terrified social media team cave to their demands and offer some kind of apology for advertising in the target — without realizing what they have just dragged their company into. In this case, a Twitter account called ‘Lisa Fajita’ had complained and ‘Alice’ from the Co-op social media team replied with news of the ban.

    The theory behind Stop Funding Hate is that publications get most of their money from advertisers, not readers — so pressure exerted via advertisers can work. And that the financial managers of a publication are the weak link. If you threaten the revenue, the money will clip journalists’ wings. This theory doesn’t quite work at The Spectator where advertising revenue is dwarfed by support from readers and the financial side of things is overseen by Andrew Neil. He takes a dim view of such tactics. When the Co-op tweeted that they’d binned us, he immediately announced that they were banned.

    I think it’s fair to say that none of us expected what happened next. People, it seems, have had their fill of cancel culture and we ended up with over 1,000 subscriptions: our own Co-op dividend. But then, things started to rebound on the Co-op. People were threatening not to shop there. At one stage, Iain Martin said he was taking away his wine order from the Co-op — as anyone who knows Iain can attest, that would represent quite a financial hit. An analysis for PR Week found that this debacle overshadowed any other Co-op social media intervention. Indulging in cancel culture turned out to be a branding disaster.

    Only then did this reach the top of the Co-op. As I suspected all along, its chief executive had no knowledge of what his underlings had been up to. He emailed Andrew and I to explain that the social media team had it wrong: the agency had not been instructed to dump The Spectator. Our policy of a ‘lifetime ban’ is to make it clear to corporates that they cannot coming crawling back once the Twitterstorm is over — and make a private apology to a publication it publicly condemns. But with the Co-op, we have accepted that this was genuinely a mistake.

    It was a slip, so we have made up. We have an advert from them appearing next month. And we ordered some of their own-brand champagne to the office and tried it after an episode of Spectator TV: it won a blind-tasting challenge with Moet, Veuve Clicquot and Bollinger. (It didn’t beat Pol Roger, but nothing does.)

    Three takeaways from this wee drama:

    1. Cancel culture is now rebounding on corporates who engage with it
    The joke — go woke, go broke — contains some truth. Companies wisely stay out of party political battles, so why enter the culture wars and disparage a chunk of your customers? Virgin Rail found this out when they were fooled by Stop Funding Hate into dumping the Daily Mail from its carriages: Richard Branson ended up overruling his marketing department and publishing a personal apology.

    2. There is a risk in asking a junior social media person to speak for the whole company
    The social media person is asked to respond to complaints on Twitter: was your delivery late? A fly in your soup? Please accept our apologies etc. These statements are issued quickly. It’s a weak link, targeted by Twitter trolls to try to fool the social media team into saying ‘seen an advert against an article you disagree with? Or, sorry, regard as ‘hate speech’? OK, sorry, we won’t advertise with this publication’. As easily as that, a firm can end up accidentally aligning itself with cancel culture.

    3. Publications ought to get together, and stand firm on advertisers who engage in cancel culture
    Serving readers ought to be the sole focus of any publication: there’s a longstanding tradition in Britain that advertisers do not seek to influence what is published. This editorial independence from commercial pressures is worth defending — and if that means losing revenue from a small number of social warrior corporates then it’s a price well worth paying. As The Spectator has found. This is not a left vs right battle. One of the trolls’ complaints for us, this time around, was that we ran a piece by Suzanne Moore of the Guardian. A while ago, one of The Spectator’s bigger advertisers had a problem with comments made by Matthew Parris. Let’s just say that they’re not a big advertiser now.

    The Spectator is very lucky: we’re family-owned by proprietors who would rather lose money than gave an inch to advertisers who threaten our editorial independence. Keeping faith with readers — serving them original and provocative opinions by brilliant writers as we have been doing since 1828 — pays off. Andrew Neil ended up joking that he hopes ‘there are other woke advertisers ready to follow Co-op’s example.’ At least, I think he was joking.

    A final word about the Co-op. The irony here is that it has already faced down the cancel culture brigade within its own ranks. It respectfully heard their case, but replies that it has a duty to ‘recognize the diversity of our members and customers, that don’t suppress the freedom of the press, which is a fundamental part of a democracy.’ It adopted the following policy: ‘We will not seek to affect the editorial independence of publications or channels. We will not undermine the commercial value of our society for our members. We will ensure our values and principles are clear and undiminished regardless of surrounding content.’

    So what happened between us was genuinely a misunderstanding. The Co-op is one of a handful of companies (Vodafone, Virgin) that do have an explicit policy of rejecting cancel culture. We’re proud to run an advert from them in a forthcoming issue, and are pleased to put this farrago behind us.”

  161. Leigh Lowe

    Anti Lockdown protestors should threaten to play “Sadie The Cleaning Lady” on high rotation until Farnham relents.

  162. Roger

    Is it a joke? Or are people too cowardly to say it’s shit because he’s black?

    Remember when patronising black people was considered wrong?

    Now the cultural elites pat themselves on the back for engaging in it.

  163. Makka

    Andrews: It’s pretty clear what risks and hazards were present with the hotel quarantine.

    The WhyTF was the biggest risk, hotel security, contracted out to numpties using immigrant third world labour? Answer : Dunno.

  164. Leigh Lowe

    Legalise Sedition
    #3597184, posted on September 25, 2020 at 4:13 pm
    WTF?

    That Archibald Prize is normal for Year 10 and exceptional for Year 8.

    The thing is, the goatee and skivvy set will all be clamouring to hang an original Namatjira Minor on their walls and will be paying well into the 10’s of thousands for shit.

  165. Rex:

    An interesting predilection, given what we are discussing. Fortunately for all, Operators tend to show far greater professionalism and character tham their detractors and abusers ever will…

    That ruins that particular theme for me, Rex.
    Thanks frigging heaps…

  166. Farmer Gez

    I hope the media don’t fall for the Mikakos burley that Andrews has dropped over the side of the VSS Titanic.

    There’s no way that a control freak like Andrews wasn’t over the details.
    The Ted Bundy of politics.

  167. caveman

    Dan Andrews, reflections. Fark me. What sort of bubbly do you like to drink Dan , we home and hosed!

  168. Makka

    Andrews with best puppy dog face : Sowwy Victoria .

  169. Boambee John

    LL

    “Don’t Tell The Boss”.

    Didn’t Margot Kingston or another lefty j’ismist (birm) put out a book with a similar title about John Howard around the time of “children overboard”?

  170. Dr Faustus

    In summary, Maximum Leader has played it according to Hoyle:

    – I never knew nuffin’;
    – I dunno who decided to use security contractors;
    – I never got involved in the detail because I trusted other people and micromanaging isn’t my thing;
    – I accept responsibility because I am Premier;

    If I can briefly make a couple of very important points. Mistakes have been made in this program. And answers are required. Those mistakes are unacceptable to me. I want to thank you, Madam Chair, and the board of inquiry and all your staff for the work you are doing and will do. I want to make it very clear to each and every member of the Victorian community that I am sorry for what has occurred here. And I want to issue an unreserved apology to all Victorians and I want to say that you, Madam Chair, I await the final report, the conclusion of your work, so we can understand better what has occurred, and so that I, as Leader of the Government, can take the appropriate action to ensure that these sorts of errors never occur again.

    – No further questions.

  171. calli

    Children’s signs prove that formal schooling is of little worth anyway..

  172. calli

    Remember when patronising black people was considered wrong?

    Now the cultural elites pat themselves on the back for engaging in it.

    If there’s money in it, they’ll be patronised. And love it.

    But they will still hate the hand that distributes the folding stuff.

  173. Some History

    The missing decision-maker.

  174. Rick

    Keep your pants on.

    Dragon’s Breath: legal in Tennessee.

    Tennesseein’ is Tennebelievin!

  175. Megan

    …and so that I, as Leader of the Government, can take the appropriate action to ensure that these sorts of errors never occur again.

    Start by sacking yourself you utterly useless twerp.

  176. Mother Lode

    it won a blind-tasting challenge with Moet, Veuve Clicquot and Bollinger. (It didn’t beat Pol Roger, but nothing does.)

    How long have I been telling people this!

  177. Dr Faustus

    The task now for Justice Coates is to prepare a report into the background to Australia’s largest public health disaster, that doesn’t conclude that her inquiry has been comprehensively lied to by people either covering their arses, or taking the piss.

  178. Robber Baron:

    Just wait when they force you to get vaccinated for a virus that 99.9% of humanity recovers from.

    Nope.
    No way.
    That’s the hill I’ll die on.

  179. Did the inquiry have the bosses of the security companies charged with implementation of hotel quarantine? The hotel managers? They would know who gave the green light for the shitshow.

  180. areff

    depriving the state of money is the Lord’s work. Almost patriotic.

    There’s a little good in even the worst of us. Getting caught, however, is unforgiveable

  181. Rex Anger

    @ Winston-

    Officially, it is supposed to be the Military Police. The RACMP train close protection units.

    In practice, the Powers That Be have tended towards the SASR where the environment is anything less than benign.

    An interesting predilection, given what we are discussing. Fortunately for all, Operators tend to show far greater professionalism and character tham their detractors and abusers ever will…

    That ruins that particular theme for me, Rex.
    Thanks frigging heaps…

    Sorry mate. Not quite sure I’ve caught your reference.

  182. Anthony

    Did Dickhead Dan resign?

  183. Nick

    That Archibald Prize is normal for Year 10 and exceptional for Year 8.

    I picked it here, open mouthed with astonishment a couple of weeks ago.

  184. dopey

    Media Watch Dog. Melissa Davey claimed she spoke to lawyers during the Pell trial. Sounds like Gerard has some info on this but is keeping it for another day.

  185. Anthony

    773 dead in Victoria. 85 dead for the rest of Australia. Sorry

  186. Lifesite news – the O’Bama purge of the US Military.
    Scary shit.

  187. Nick

    Mother Lode, what fizz was that ?

  188. Rex Anger:

    That ruins that particular theme for me, Rex.
    Thanks frigging heaps…

    It makes a good starting point for a novel is all…
    NADT

  189. Makka

    One interesting item that surfaced was that there is an inquiry currently underway initiated by Andrews into the private Security Industry. Looking into serious problems with training, underpayment, dodgy administrations, lack of English and general sloppy and potentially corrupt goings on.

    Andrews knew that private Security Co’s were enclaves of clusterfks.

  190. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    ‘Fought tooth and nail to conceal’: Vic knew curfew could be illegal, court told
    Bombshell legal advice reveals the Victorian Government was warned by its own lawyers about imposing a curfew, a court has heard.

  191. Farmer Gez

    Anthony
    #3597248, posted on September 25, 2020 at 5:21 pm
    Did Dickhead Dan resign?

    Why no, Anthony.

    A strange replay of the Warren Commission.
    We’re seeking the minister on the Grassy Knoll.

  192. Roger

    Bombshell legal advice reveals the Victorian Government was warned by its own lawyers about imposing a curfew, a court has heard.

    I thought Dan was one for always following the advice of experts?

  193. Struth

    773 dead in Victoria. 85 dead for the rest of Australia. Sorry

    How do you know?

  194. vlad

    I don’t understand why the artist painted Adam Goodes doing the Nicky Winmar gesture.

  195. feelthebern

    Sweden credit growth for August is out.
    +5.6%.
    Boom.

  196. feelthebern

    I don’t understand why the artist painted Adam Goodes doing the Nicky Winmar gesture.

    It’s racist to question an indigenous artist work.
    Please report to the Ministry of Re-education.

  197. Dr Faustus

    That Archibald Prize is normal for Year 10 and exceptional for Year 8.

    I get Adam Goodes from the #37 on the jersey.
    Not sure about the other guys.

  198. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    “The anxiety this crisis caused is irreversible and it’s only going to get worse if we don’t take meaningful climate action now.”

    soylent green!

  199. feelthebern

    That’s private credit growth btw.

  200. vlad

    It’s racist to question an indigenous artist work.
    Please report to the Ministry of Re-education.

    How do you know I’m not indigenous. It would be okay then.

  201. Farmer Gez

    Channel Seven news promo.

    I’m not kidding!

    “Daniel Andrews finally reveals who was in charge of the hotel quarantine fiasco.”

  202. jo

    Mother Lode
    #3597236, posted on September 25, 2020 at 5:08 pm

    it won a blind-tasting challenge with Moet, Veuve Clicquot and Bollinger. (It didn’t beat Pol Roger, but nothing does.)

    How long have I been telling people this!

    I just prefer the nutty taste of Veuve. Went to a Bollie dinner years ago at Cottesloe or Claremont. Shirley Strickland was the guest of honour. Bollie is too light on for me. I love the way drinking Champers doesn’t give a headache.

  203. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    the product of the long march and the terminal decay of europe

    Mariana Mazzucato: “Trump is a passing problem in the US – Brexit is not”

  204. incoherent rambler

    Champers doesn’t give a headache.

    Drink in the sun on a hot day, then see how your head is.

  205. Roger

    “Daniel Andrews finally reveals who was in charge of the hotel quarantine fiasco.”

    I presume they mean Jenny Mikakos?

  206. caveman

    Daniel Andrews finally reveals who was in charge of the hotel quarantine fiasco

    It was Colonel Mustard in the spa with the vibrator

  207. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    war is coming
    New images reveal China’s growing detention centre network
    The Chinese Communist Party maintains the “re-education centres” for the Uighur Muslim minority are needed to stamp out terrorism and provide vocational education in the region.

    But the new findings revealing the extent of its internment policy come after a separate report was released this week revealing Beijing had begun forcing more than 500,000 Tibetans into labour camps – mirroring its Xinjiang program

    The Communist Party has also faced accusations that it had begun forced sterilisation and a cultural and linguistic genocide of the ethnic minority.

  208. feelthebern

    What booze won the blind tasting?

  209. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    war is coming
    New images reveal China’s growing detention centre network
    The Chinese Communist Party maintains the “re-education centres” for the Uighur Mu slim minority are needed to stamp out terrorism and provide vocational education in the region.

    But the new findings revealing the extent of its internment policy come after a separate report was released this week revealing Beijing had begun forcing more than 500,000 Tibetans into labour camps – mirroring its Xinjiang program

    The Communist Party has also faced accusations that it had begun forced sterilisation and a cultural and linguistic genocide of the ethnic minority.

  210. Bruce of Newcastle

    “Daniel Andrews finally reveals who was in charge of the hotel quarantine fiasco.”

    Climate change?

  211. rickw

    I get the impression that Eccles will be joining Mikakos under the bus.

    Multiple scapegoats will be required for Dan’s mega clusterfuck.

  212. Rockdoctor

    Sad to see Dean Jones go. Bunch of us ran into him a few times in City Rowers Nightclub Brisbane back in the early 1990’s when the Vic’s were up for cricket or Australian team was in town. Seemed aloof and arrogant on the surface but one of our boys had played grade cricket in Vic so Dean was very engaging with him. Loved watching him play until his career was cut short prematurely.

    Sad to say I can’t even name any cricketers in the national 11 these days.

  213. JC

    Jessica Alba’s other job other than B- grade actress is doing senior consulting work at Boston Consulting.

    Jessica Alba: Companies don’t need a ‘cut-throat white middle-aged guy’ to succeed

  214. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Tailgunner at 5:06 pm:

    “The Greatest Political Ad In History. 3 minutes.

    Wow!”

    Too right – well done for showing that, well worth viewing the production professionals at work (and making a good quid for it I’d say).

  215. Delta A

    I just prefer the nutty taste of Veuve. … Bollie is too light on for me.

    Trigger warning: old bird’s recollections of times long past. Scroll if likely to be traumatised.

    Some time mid 80’s I went with four female colleagues to Chesser Cellar in Adelaide CBD for Saturday lunch. None of us being shy, we chatted, laughed, drank and ate with gusto. Great time! Then, just as we were making noises about leaving, the waiter arrived with a bottle of Veuve Clicquot,compliments of the two dashing gentlemen seated across the room.

    We demurred daintily for all of thirty seconds, then poured the champers and raised our glasses in recognition of our kind admirers, thanking them for their chivalry. Twenty minutes later a bottle of Moet and Chandon appeared with the same waiter. Wow! First time I’d really enjoyed champagne, the Veuve being a tad too robust for my taste.

    Again, we thanked the men… and quaffed the lot.

    Then the men stood up and approached our table. Uh oh, time to cough up for the champers. But no, they paused by our table and thanked us for accepting their drinks, adding that they liked seeing beautiful women enjoying good food and life.

    And then they left.

    I wonder how these charming gentlemen would be received by the snowflakes today. Hit with sexual abuse charges, probably.

  216. Dr Faustus

    “Daniel Andrews finally reveals who was in charge of owns the hotel quarantine fiasco.”

    More time with her family beckons.
    #getoutofjailfree

  217. Frank

    Jessica Alba’s other job other than B- grade actress is doing senior consulting work at Boston Consulting.

    B Grade you say?

  218. feelthebern

    Anyone see the Chicago Mayor endorse the Census Cowboy running his horse to death on a city road?
    What is it with these people & cruelty to animals?

  219. Bruce of Newcastle

    Jessica Alba’s other job other than B- grade actress is doing senior consulting work at Boston Consulting.

    Probably advising the Squid.

    Goldman Sachs Promotes First Woman To Lead Investment Bank As CEO Strives To Meet ‘Diversity’ Goals (21 Sep)

    Sure to work.

  220. It’s good news we’re gonna get Apaches over the Eurocopters, right?

    Finally, a non-fuck up from government this year.

  221. rickw

    From Tailgunner at 5:06 pm:

    “The Greatest Political Ad In History. 3 minutes.

    Wow!”

    Too right – well done for showing that, well worth viewing the production professionals at work (and making a good quid for it I’d say).

    Shit, I want to move to Texas so bad !!!

  222. rickw

    Finally, a non-fuck up from government this year.

    Someone in government clearly made a mistake?!

  223. Slayer of Memes

    BREAKING:
    Former NSW ALP Minister, Milton Orkopoulous has been charged with 8 more counts of sexual abuse of children…

    Anyone still wondering why Labor keeps blocking legislation in parliament to protect child sex abuse victims??

  224. cohenite

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #3597290, posted on September 25, 2020 at 5:57 pm
    the product of the long march and the terminal decay of europe

    Mariana Mazzucato: “Trump is a passing problem in the US – Brexit is not”

    Mariana Mazzucato is a really strange bit of gear and a complete leftie and fucking fruitcake. She would look very good in a bit of Nazi clobber: have a gander at it.

  225. Speedbox

    …..Chesser Cellar in Adelaide CBD…..

    Back in the day, that was a fantastic bar. Does it still operate?

  226. areff

    It didn’t beat Pol Roger, but nothing does

    Sensible people agree. Ain’t that right, Lizzie?

  227. Cassie of Sydney

    “I just prefer the nutty taste of Veuve.”

    I do too Jo.

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