Tuesday Forum: September 22, 2020

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  1. feelthebern

    Worse than the Mexican?

    Much, much worse.

  2. feelthebern

    Since Andy Penn married his young new piece, he’s ceased being a capitalist.
    He’s now all woke.
    He literally doesn’t give a shit about the business anymore.

  3. Cassie of Sydney

    “Sinclair Davidson
    #3596524, posted on September 24, 2020 at 9:40 pm
    Rambam believed Mueslis were monotheists.

    He is correct – they are.”

    Yes…they are.

  4. As in Victoria, we have the situation where a premier or PM may call a royal commission or judicial inquiry, but has the power to define the scope and terms. Why do they get to do this instead of the applicable governor or GG? Would it not be better that the premier/PM outlines the desire for a inquiry to the governor/GG who subsequently defines the terms to be implemented?

  5. Tom

    Breaking: Test cricketer Dean Jones has died in Mumbai, India, aged 59, of a suspected heart attack.

  6. Slayer of Memes

    Why do they get to do this instead of the applicable governor or GG?

    Rule One of the ALP: Never call for an inquiry until you are sure of the answer you want it to give…

  7. Whoever those two roosters are who shot the horse plant on Killarney – they should count their lucky stars it’s only the MacLaughlin’s going after them with lawyers. I’ve a feeling whatever outcome it will be far more palatable to them than if Bill Tapp (snr) still owned the place & they’d shot two & a half dozen of his favourite neddys.

    Mr. Tapp is reputed to have been so soft-hearted about animals that he broke a bloke’s nose for pulling the wings off a fly.

  8. thefrollickingmole

    Helen.

    Seen the same thing with a feral goat muster. Does in one pen billies in another, about 300 all up. Very very bad place to be a juvenile billy…..

  9. Helen

    Dunno about Vroom but visited with the phillipino owner, he told me he loved being in Darwin because he could sit on a sidewalk having a coffee without fear of assassination. Back home he can’t go any where, no even to the dunny with out body guard.

  10. Helen

    Yes Mole, a hole is a hole as they say and the boys dont care. But they will take on the bigger ones, too. No Greek love in my boys, all welcome.

  11. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Legalise Sedition at 8:49 pm:

    On Dean Jones …

    ” ….

    My favourite cricketer. I’d say he got me to like cricket when I was a kid.”

    He was good alright, Dot. Capable – turned many 50s into centuries – and quick, an exciting batsman.

    His partners knew when he came to the crease their chances of getting out had increased by 25%, expanding caught, bowled and LB to include run out as being just as likely.

    A common wry comment back then was an imitation of Deano calling “Yes! No! Wait! Ooops – you’re out!”

    56 is way too young, especially for someone who one would assume remains fitter than the average bloke.

  12. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Harmes.
    Wayne Harmes.’

    Maynard snubbed for AA.
    Dean Jones dead.
    Wayne Harmes mentioned.
    No storms today.

    Worst day ever.

  13. Dunno about Vroom but visited with the phillipino owner, he told me he loved being in Darwin because he could sit on a sidewalk having a coffee without fear of assassination. Back home he can’t go any where, no even to the dunny with out body guard.

    Mario, his surname eludes me.
    Philippines is sorta like that. Then again, Mario was an uncompromising sorta bloke too in the right circumstances.

    Vroon was the money & major shareholder. In the end there was just him & Mario owned it (70-30 or thereabouts) with 5% or something belonging to the bookkeeper.

  14. Mater

    ‘HUNDREDS of thousands dollars’ worth of horses have been shot at a remote Northern Territory station by members of a sporting shooters’ association. Thirty of Killarney Station’s best horses, worth about $500,000, were shot by two members of the association on Sunday.

    That’s going to test the insurance policy that comes with SSAA membership.

  15. NoFixedAddress

    MacLaughlin

    he probably set it up

  16. Knuckle Dragger

    Dean Jones story.

    He used to live in the same town as I did – Romsey, in the Macedon Ranges. Was quite the golfer, apparently, going around off +2 or +3 or somesuch. Mad jogger – would run around the town in the mornings with a scarf across his dial, because for eleven months of the year it’s fucking freezing.

    We’d get him down to the crikkit club once every year or so. Put on an exhibition match of sorts, he’s go in at no.6 or something, go the tonk for half an hour or so (beautiful to watch, naturally) and then wheel him into the club for stubbies and bullshit. Really nice bloke. Not up himself, nothing was too much trouble etc.

    He told us he was running along the road next to the ground once, and in the nets was a kid having a net under instruction from one of those Dads whose lack of sporting prowess was someone else’s fault, cruelled by injury or both so lives through his child.

    So Jones wanders up behind the kid in the nets. Watches for a bit. Scarf still over his boat race. Offers a few tips to the kid. Dad jacks up, told the disguised Jones his tips were shit and what the fuck did he know about cricket, so Jones just said ‘no worries’ and jogged off.

  17. NoFixedAddress

    That’s going to test the insurance policy that comes with SSAA membership.

    who sponsored the folk that cannot tell the difference between a pig and a horse nor even distance between 4.5km and 10km.

  18. Hilarious, old Jack.

    “JOG ON”, as the poms say.

  19. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Yes Mole, a hole is a hole as they say and the boys dont care. But they will take on the bigger ones, too. No Greek love in my boys, all welcome.

    I seem to have arrived at an inopportune moment…

  20. jupes

    Good stuff Arky. Funny as fuck.

    RIP Deano.

  21. Pedro the Loafer

    Great clip, Arky.

  22. mh

    Colin Kaepernick
    @Kaepernick7
    ·
    13h
    The white supremacist institution of policing that stole Breonna Taylor’s life from us must be abolished for the safety and well being of our people.

    “Our people”?
    Colin’s biological mother Heidi

  23. JC

    Jeez, he was banging his dead brother’s wife?

    Last year, The Post exclusively revealed that a woman who was suing Biden for paternity in Arkansas was a former stripper at a Washington, DC, club that he frequented around the time he was dating the widow of his late brother, former Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden.

  24. Arky

    Deano and Hadley perfectly define each of their country’s best national characteristics.
    Vale Dean Jones.

  25. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    Mater #3596552, posted on September 24, 2020 at 10:10 pm
    ‘HUNDREDS of thousands dollars’ worth of horses have been shot at a remote Northern Territory station by members of a sporting shooters’ association. Thirty of Killarney Station’s best horses, worth about $500,000, were shot by two members of the association on Sunday.
    That’s going to test the insurance policy that comes with SSAA membership.

    I made the same quick reading error.
    There’s no mention anywhere of which “sporting shooters’ association” they’re members.

    Anyway, why bring up a membership at all? Membership of a sporting shooting assn is not mentioned by the only party to the escapade who was interviewed, the station manager.

  26. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    another trumble catastrophe

    The former head of NBN Co has criticised the recently announced plan to give millions of customers access to ultra-fast internet, saying it would have cost less for both the Government and customers if it had been done in the first place.

  27. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Knuckle Dragger at 10:23 pm :

    On Dean Jones:

    “He told us he was running along the road next to the ground once, and in the nets was a kid having a net under instruction from one of those Dads whose lack of sporting prowess was someone else’s fault, cruelled by injury or both so lives through his child.

    So Jones wanders up behind the kid in the nets. Watches for a bit. Scarf still over his boat race. Offers a few tips to the kid. Dad jacks up, told the disguised Jones his tips were shit and what the fuck did he know about cricket, so Jones just said ‘no worries’ and jogged off.”

    I used coach cricket when my son and his mates were at primary school (ie. under 12) not because I knew anything about that but because I was the only bloke available who get there early enough mid week to manage the whole shebang. There would be about four teams of boys and girls running about having fun, a few serious minded young tyros doing a little bit of the focused stuff, but generally chaos and laughter contained within a rugby field with soft grass.

    A couple of fathers would attend half way through, arriving to collect their sons but sitting off to the side and yarning – they were good mates. They could have stepped in and listed many things I should not be doing and many things I should be doing, but they did not. If they had I, and anyone else, would have remained silent and listened closely.

    One was a former Wallaby fly half and the other a Kangaroo centre who played in a World Cup in the UK as a young priest, the Vatican’s then pin up boy. They were both exceptional sportsmen in many disciplines.

    We went on to become mates over the years but I remained most impressed at the start, and grateful, when they did not feel it necessary to stride in and show off how clever they were and simply left the amateur to do what he could.

  28. Arky

    ‘s a wanker!

    ..
    That’s Sir Wanker to you.

  29. JC

    She’s saying where a gram of fish will set you back 50 bucks.
    Twiggy’s stupid wife.

    “Growing up I always believed everyone had equal opportunity …actually, our society is not as egalitarian as we would like to think it is”: Nicola Forrest makes a point over lunch at Nobu in Perth.

    No self awareness.

  30. DrBeauGan

    There’s little evidence of a Çat orthodoxy, numbers. We argue about almost anything. But there is a consensus on three points.

    1. 91.3% of us believe you have severe OCD.
    2. 93.1% of us think leftism is a disgusting cult.
    3. 99.7% of us think you’re an arsehole.

  31. vlad

    He seemed to imply the other day he’s on the spectrum. That would explain a lot.

  32. Steve trickler

    Stossel is good value.



  33. Arky

    Huge box of Model A parts came today, including new kingpins.
    Will be taking the front suspension apart again.
    Then once that’s done, the rear end has to come out so I can do the universal joint.
    Uni joints unavailable, so I might have to get something fabricated.
    All of this can be done at leisure, because I know the thing is a goer.

  34. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    Dr Beagy’s statistics have a margin of error due to sampling inefficiencies.
    The quoted figures could vary from the actual by as much as 0.01%

  35. Zyconoclast

    Seattle pays ex-pimp $150,000 to offer ‘alternatives to policing’

    Seattle now has on its payroll a convicted pimp who once vowed to “go to war” with the city — a $150,000 “street czar” whose mission is to come up with “alternatives to policing,” reports said.

    Andre Taylor — who appeared in the documentary “American Pimp” about his life as “Gorgeous Dre” — is getting $12,500 per month for a year, along with an office in Seattle’s Municipal Tower, according to the contract published by PubliCola.

  36. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From DrBeauGan at 11:00 pm:

    “There’s little evidence of a Çat orthodoxy, numbers. We argue about almost anything. But there is a consensus on three points.

    1. 91.3% of us believe you have severe OCD.
    2. 93.1% of us think leftism is a disgusting cult.
    3. 99.7% of us think you’re an arsehole.”

    The 0.3 % in 3. reflects the response to the survey by an occasional contributor here, Mick, who doesn’t swear.

    (his rugby coach knocked it out of him early with “If I hear you swear at a referee again you will no longer captain one of my teams”).

  37. Arky

    Most people only rebuild a thing once.
    Not me pal.
    I like to take something apart and put it back together many, many times, so like assembling a steyr, you can do it blindfolded.
    Eventually, one might even put it back together such that it works properly.

  38. Zyconoclast

    Misogyny: Women ‘should be protected’ under hate crime lawsT

    Women should be protected under expanded hate crime laws, according to a new report from the Law Commission.
    The independent body that advises government said misogyny should be treated in the same way as other discrimination when it is the motivation for a crime.
    Campaigners welcomed the proposal, including Labour MP Stella Creasy, who called it “our moment for change”.

  39. Arky

    Women should be protected under expanded hate crime laws

    ..
    Women should get back in the kitchen and cook me dinner.
    … not you, dear. Oh please God no.
    Just all the rest of you who can actually cook.

  40. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Arky at 11:12 pm:

    “… take something apart and put it back together many, many times, so like assembling a steyr, you can do it blindfolded.
    Eventually, one might even put it back together such that it works properly.”

    Last century as school cadets, in the Army’s preparation of young blokes for possible conscription, we were taught to do that with a Bren gun and to use it afterwards, at Anzac Rifle Range, Holsworthy and Whittingham. I enjoyed the Bren gun and .303s.

  41. vlad

    Just all the rest of you who can actually cook.

    Men are better cooks.

  42. Arky

    I feel the mullet hair cut is due for a comeback.
    Specially the ones with a huge bald spot on top.
    I’m going to get ahead of the curve on this one and start growing the back out.

  43. Steve trickler

    Look at this thing. Look at the modifications. Astronaut suit on. He’s going places.



  44. Arky

    It’s either that or a mohawk with a section missing in the middle.

  45. Arky

    Worst songs ever recorded, that set my teeth grinding, #3:
    ..


  46. Arky

    Worst songs ever recorded, that set my teeth grinding, #2:
    ..


  47. Arky

    Worst songs ever recorded, that set my teeth grinding, #!:
    ..


  48. Arky

    Elanor Rigby was pretty bloody good.

    This is awful.

  49. They don’t say “oh remember this one from the wonderful 1980s, do they?”

  50. Arky

    Horrinerable mentions:
    Eurythmics – Sweet Dreams.
    Elton John- Candle in the Wind
    David Bowie and Queen – Under Pressure.

  51. When you realise

    That Kylie Minogue’s big hit

    Had a music video that might have been inspired by this

  52. Arky

    Elanor Rigby was pretty bloody good.

    ..
    Depressing. I want to slit me wrists whenever I hear it.

  53. Arky

    You could do worse than Dave Stewart and Annie Lennox

  54. Arky

    This is awful.

    ..
    That isn’t even music.
    Which is why I haven’t mentioned any rap shit.

  55. Arky

    I’ve always hated this one too.
    There’s something off about the structure of the lyrics.
    It’s just bad and annoying:
    ..


  56. Arky

    I was born in a cross-fire hurricane
    And I howled at the morning driving rain
    But it’s all right now, in fact, it’s a gas
    But it’s all right. I’m Jumpin’ Jack Flash
    It’s a gas, gas, gas
    I was raised by a toothless, bearded hag,
    I was schooled with a strap right across my back
    But it’s all right now, in fact, it’s a gas
    But it’s all right, I’m Jumpin’ Jack Flash
    It’s a gas, gas, gas
    I was drowned, I was washed up and left for dead
    I fell down to my feet and I saw they bled , yeah yeah
    I frowned at the crumbs of a crust of bread
    Yeah, yeah, yeah
    I was crowned with a spike right through my head
    But it’s all right now, in fact, it’s a gas
    But it’s all right, I’m Jumpin’ Jack Flash
    It’s a gas, gas, gas
    Jumping Jack Flash, its a gas
    Jumping Jack Flash, its a gas
    Jumping Jack Flash, its a gas
    Jumping Jack Flash, its a gas
    Jumping Jack Flash, its a gas
    Jumping Jack Flash, its a gas

    ..

    I frowned at the crumbs of a crust of bread

    WTF???!

  57. Old School Conservative

    the other a Kangaroo centre who played in a World Cup in the UK as a young priest, the Vatican’s then pin up boy

    John Coates?

  58. Old School Conservative

    Shit. Cootes.

  59. Arky

    I blame Mick Jagger for much of the decline of Western civilisation. Basically a rich, conservative dude, he wrote a bunch of incomprehensible undecipherable gibberish about God knows what.

  60. Arky

    Richards has stated that he and Jagger wrote the lyrics while staying at Richards’ country house, when they were awoken one morning by the clumping footsteps of his gardener Jack Dyer walking past the window. Surprised, Jagger asked what it was and Richards responded: “Oh, that’s Jack – that’s jumpin’ Jack.”[10] The lyrics evolved from there.

    ..
    The lyrics should have been strangled in their crib right there, and buried in an unmarked grave on unconsecrated ground.

  61. Arky

    they were awoken one morning by the clumping footsteps of his gardener Jack Dyer walking past the window.

    ..
    Flatulent too, was he?
    ..

    Jumping Jack Flash, its a gas
    Jumping Jack Flash, its a gas
    Jumping Jack Flash, its a gas
    Jumping Jack Flash, its a gas
    Jumping Jack Flash, its a gas
    Jumping Jack Flash, its a gas

    ..
    So the bloke’s gardener tromps around farting and they write one of the most annoying songs in their cartalogue.
    Just fuck off, Mick Jagger.

  62. Leigh Lowe

    Arky

    #3596622, posted on September 25, 2020 at 12:08 am

    I blame Mick Jagger for much of the decline of Western civilisation

    Can’t wait for C.L. to read this.
    Heresy!!

  63. Arky

    Need a palate cleanser after that dreck.
    Something cheerful.
    How about two young lovers buried alive in a tomb?
    Crank it up.
    ..


  64. C.L.

    I blame Mick Jagger for much of the decline of Western civilisation.

    Possibly a slight exaggeration but there is a grain of truth there. He was probably the most feted nihilist of ’em all in the pop-cultural world from the mid-60s to the mid 70s. Jagger gets a lot of criticism while Keith is seen as lovable and Byronic. Now that I’m a bit older, I tend to think of Jagger as endlessly solid but Keith as a phony who has essentially been acting like Keith Richards for about 40 years. Heroin killed who he was really going to become a long time ago.

  65. C.L.

    Jack Flash has never been a favourite of mine. It doesn’t ever really work to me. It’s telling that neither Jones nor Richards laid down a lead riff in that annoyingly empty break. Nor has Ron Wood ever tried it in concert. Only sublimely gifted virtuoso Mick Taylor ever managed it:

  66. Arky

    Music is an interesting phenomenon.
    On the surface, there doesn’t seem to be much reason for it.
    What’s it for?
    However, it seems quite important somehow.

  67. Arky

    Is it:
    A method of attracting the opposite sex?
    A way to tell a story?
    A means of evoking feelings?
    A distraction or a motivation?
    Doesn’t really seem to fit into any one category of things utility- wise.

  68. areff

    In honour of BLM (live, and by far the best version):

  69. Arky

    What have these things got in common?
    – a funeral march.
    – a pop song.
    – an aria.
    – elevator muzak.
    – a country tune.
    – A parody song.
    ..
    Frankly, I don’t get it, or understand how these things came into existence.
    If the world was composed of Arkys from time immemorial, the only music in existence would be syncopated banging on various objects and tuneless humming.

  70. JC

    Arky

    How often does anyone really listen to the lyrics let alone understand the actual words in modern music?

  71. Arky

    How often does anyone really listen to the lyrics let alone understand the actual words in modern music?

    ..
    Pretty much never.
    But they must mean something to the people who write them, or else lyrics would be like:
    ..


  72. JC

    I think most of the time, not always, the music drives the words.

    I dunno, but I think the music comes first and then the words most times as a filler.

  73. Boris

    How likely is that now that his fate is all but sealed, the serial killer whose name better not be spoken will reveal where the body Sarah Spiers is?

  74. Top Ender

    Mick Jagger may have done a few annoying things but he gets a lot of forgiveness for this:

  75. Rex Mango

    Ok, tomorrow Dan is in the box. We will find out who signed off on private security. Otherwise our system of governcence is a jok

  76. Legalise Sedition at 5.31 p.m #3596258

    “One forced laugh”, Gad Man! I’ve only just recovered, Bill Clinton for SCOTUS is bumper sticker material, up there with Land Rights for Gay Whales, well done!

  77. NoFixedAddress

    “exceptional service to the Australian Army”

    Major General Paul Le Gay Brereton, AM, RFD

    Judge of the New South Wales Court of Appeal

    a senior officer in the Australian Army Reserve.

    He commanded the 5th Brigade from 2008 to 2010

    Head of the Cadet, Reserve and Employer Support Division from 2010 to 2014.

    He is currently leading an Inspector-General of the Australian Defence Force investigation into criminal misconduct on the battlefield by Australian Special forces in Afghanistan.

    Brereton was appointed a Member of the Order of Australia in the 2010 Queen’s Birthday Honours for his “exceptional service to the Australian Army”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Brereton

  78. Mitch M.

    Arky
    #3596635, posted on September 25, 2020 at 1:17 am
    How often does anyone really listen to the lyrics let alone understand the actual words in modern music?

    I’ve been doing that since my early 20’s, sometimes typing out the lyrics. When I told a friend about it he was annoyed with me because it destroyed his appreciation of some music. There are important exceptions. Some of Don McLean’s songs look like poems on paper, Smith of The Cure wrote good lyrics, Tom Waits comes up with some great lines like, “I was born in a taxi so I’m never going home”, “He hung his wild years on the nail he drove through his wife’s forehead”, “I never told the truth so I can never tell a lie”. Springsteen writes understandable lyrics. Opera lyrics are also often rubbish. I never understood why Bowie was hailed so much because his lyrics are shite. Jethro Tull writes good lyrics.

    But they must mean something to the people who write them, or else lyrics would be like:

    Not necessarily. Like JC stated, the lyrics are often a filler. Modern music often starts with the music and lyrics are added later. Sometimes you have to understand the writer and make an effort to find the meaning but most of the time it is not worth the effort.

  79. Tintarella di Luna

    Dean Jones dead at 59 very sad very young – sudden deadly cardiac arrest condolences to his family and friends.

  80. Crossie

    Yay, Tom is on the air again!

    Johannes rules!

  81. Knuckle Dragger

    Arky, overnight:

    ‘I blame Mick Jagger for much of the decline of Western civilisation. Basically a rich, conservative dude, he wrote a bunch of incomprehensible undecipherable gibberish about God knows what.’

    Not sure about Jagger. You may be thinking of Mr. James Reyne.

    In any event, if people want to identify some overrated shit that never justified in any way, shape or form the adulation it received, let alone the cash it trousered, they can start and stop at The Beatles.

    Just terrible.

  82. John Brumble

    That’s ok, Top Ender. The pompous twit can just start in on QLD and most South Australians will fall over themselves to be the first to wet their pants in laughter.

  83. Herodotus

    Kimberly Kitching, Victorian Senator and friend of Andrew Bolt, struggled to respond meaningfully to questioning from Chris Kenny on yesterday’s Kenny Report.
    Taxed with explaining the unseemly spectacle of nobody in the VicPolity knowing anything about quarantine debacle or who ordered the curfew, she tried to say it would all be revealed today in The Inquiry.
    That’s “The Thing” Andrews has been using for cover. Not impressive.

  84. Herodotus

    Thanks Tom, welcome back! 5G now operational at your place?

  85. Megan

    Glad Tom’s toons are back! Thanks, and give Telstra hell!

  86. Me brain hurts, I am having a shizophrenic breakdown, soon I will have to take my favourite car to the cube.

    Never date girls called

    Yoko
    Layla
    Pattie
    Angie
    Sharona
    Rosanna
    Rosalia
    Wendy
    Mary
    Taylor Swift

  87. Knuckle Dragger

    Magda
    Penny
    Clementine
    Marise

  88. 132andBush

    Herd Immunity

    News like this will never filter out through the FMIC, who despite what we may think of the politicians and bureaucrats, are the real enemy of the people.

  89. Bruce of Newcastle

    You forgot Meghan and Karen.

  90. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘You forgot Meghan and Karen.’

    Well, hang on.

    Karens are verboten. Freakin’ obviously.

    I’d date* a Meghan, though. No problems at all. Marry one? That’d just be silly. Yeah nah – just throw me in that volcano, thank you.

    *Used in the term’s kindest sense.

  91. calli

    Someone mentioned Tom Waits last night. Here’s his song for Australia. The lyrics are perfect.

  92. Farmer Gez

    Trump is going to start a civil war by not accepting an election result according to the MSM.

    Is that during the lull in the street wars fanned by the Democrats?

    I’m still waiting for the first big white supremacist fascist rally or riot to happen. They’re everywhere and a huge threat we’re told.

    I’m beginning to think the media might just be guilty of a smidgeon of exaggeration.

  93. calli

    Hilary let the cat out of the bag months ago regarding the Dems and the election result.

    They can’t walk it back, her comment was too overt. The only option left is to attribute it lock stock and barrel to Trump.

  94. Xenu started off as a regional governor who just wanted to stop the spread at funerals.

    Poor guy gets a bad wrap.

  95. Farmer Gez

    To show respect for Ruth Bader Ginsburg the crowd of demented Democrat witches started booing and chanting as Trump and Melania stood beside her coffin to pay respect on the steps of the Supreme Court.

    All class girls.

  96. rickw

    Welcome back Tom.

    Who’s coordinating the class action against Telstra?! To long without the Toons!

  97. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Who’s coordinating the class action against Telstra?’

    What we need is a pro bono advocate.

  98. rickw

    Salty Cracker, 7:38, RBG funeral and left wing insanity:

  99. rickw

    Anthony Brian Logan, 12:38, spicy comments from Wells Fargo CEO:

  100. rickw

    Dr Steve Turley, 13:38, BLM and Antifa’s Red Pill program:

  101. Farmer Gez

    What we need is a pro bono advocate.

    “For pro bono advocate press 1 or refer to our website”

  102. MatrixTransform

    thanks tom
    and thanks ted

  103. calli

    Lol. King Jeff’s in the warpath again this morning.

    He’s wearing his cerise pullover.

    Watch out Dicktator Dan!

  104. Top Ender

    COLANDER HAT IS PASTA JOKE: JUDGE

    A MAN who bludgeoned a ski resort manager with a snowboard while wearing a Chewbacca outfit has pleaded not to be sent to jail out of fear of being targeted for wearing a pasta colander on his head.

    A District Court judge scolded Keith Wass’s “religious” beliefs as “absurd”, with the 54-year-old facing being sent to prison after pleading guilty to assault at Thredbo Resort in 2017.

    His lawyers on Thursday asked for him to be sentenced to an intensive corrections order rather than jail because he was an adherent to the satirical Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

    Wass, from Blaxland, arrived at Sydney’s Downing Centre wearing a white and red colander on his head, which he wore in the dock.

    Barrister Peter Pearsall told judge Garry Neilson his client was a believer in Pastafarianism who would be targeted in jail because of his views, which require him to wear a colander.

    “It’s absurd, ridiculous behaviour,” Judge Neilson said.

    The matter will return to court in November.

    But a burka is OK?

    NT News

  105. Snoopy

    A major Wall Street analytics firm released its financial forecast for the country over the next decade under four different scenarios — and it assessed the prospect of a Joe Biden win and full Democratic control of Congress as the best for the economic recovery.

    According to a new 10-year forecast from Moody’s Analytics, the nation would enjoy faster and stronger GDP growth, more employment gains, more labor participation and income growth, and greater corporate profits if a blue wave sweeps the 2020 election.

    “The economic outlook is strongest under the scenario in which Biden and the Democrats sweep Congress and fully adopt their economic agenda,” Moody’s wrote.”The economy is expected to create 18.6 million jobs during Biden’s term as president, and the economy returns to full employment, with unemployment of just over 4%, by the second half of 2022.”

    More

  106. Shy Ted

    Car Cats, if your next car was to be either a V8 Chrysler Crossfire, Holden Astra VXR or a Peugeot RCZ R, which would you go for. I love car shopping weekends.

  107. rickw

    Dave Richards, Old Steam Powered Machine Shop:

  108. rickw

    Peugeot RCZ R

    Worth a look, I don’t like the way the crossfires styling. RCZ has a pissy engine, 1.6 L from memory?

  109. Shy Ted

    Or if anybody knows a beast of a car for sale in Qld (must be a bargain)…

  110. Moodys are so full of shit.

    I went for a job there in late 2009 and told them QE and Keynes was all wrong.

    I did not get the job, but good lord was I on the right side of history.

    They’re absolute plonkers.

    I wouldn’t buy their work with Zimbabwean currency.

  111. lotocoti

    Or if anybody knows a beast of a car for sale in Qld (must be a bargain)…

    If it doesn’t come with keys, would that be a problem?

  112. Farmer Gez

    calli
    #3596713, posted on September 25, 2020 at 7:08 am
    Lol. King Jeff’s in the warpath again this morning.

    He’s wearing his cerise pullover.

    Watch out Dicktator Dan!

    Prediction – Dictator Dan today:
    “The decision to use private security was a collective one and I don’t think it advances our fight against this virus by apportioning blame or singling out individuals.
    Obviously there were failures in process by the private security companies involved and Victorians can test rest assured I will hold them to account.”

    Tips his hat, twirls his cane and walks off screen.

  113. notafan

    The reasoning for curfew extension seems to lockdown is working, more of the same.

    Seems somewhat tenuous and simplicitic to me.

  114. Farmer Gez

    Buggered that up but you get the drift.

  115. notafan

    And of course the supreme court case is to expose the government.

    Just like hotel quarantine the decision making process will be shown to be superb.

  116. For the tape

    A senior health official extended Victoria’s curfew based on information gleaned from two confidential daily reports alongside consultations with other health officials, legal advice and her own specialist training in infectious disease, court documents reveal.

    Further affidavits filed at the request of Supreme Court judge Tim Ginnane on Thursday showed the volume of information and sources that Associate Professor Michelle Giles consulted before making the decision to extend the curfew as Victoria’s Deputy Public Health Commander.

    Restaurant owner Michelle Loielo, who is an active member of the Liberal Party, filed a writ last week arguing the curfew was unreasonable, disproportionate and violates the human rights of millions of Victorians.

    The documents came the same day that Justice Ginnane had rejected a bid by lawyers defending the Andrews government to withhold legal documents that discussed whether extending the curfew was a violation of Victoria’s Human Rights Charter.

    On Monday, Associate Professor Giles explained how she arrived at her decision, announced on September 14, which included examining legal advice about whether the case infringed the charter.

    The affidavits filed with the court on Thursday revealed that Associate Professor Giles relied in part on reports contained in two daily emails: an Outbreaks Summary Report and a COVID-19 intelligence report, the latter of which is confidential.

    The government tried to claim the advice, 10 individual assessments by the Legal Services Branch of the health department, was subject to lawyer-client privilege and should not be provided.

    Nine of the assessments were not provided by the government, who claimed privilege over them.

    The main dos and dont’s as Melbourne struggles toward the end of COVID lockdown. And remember this is all dependent on the case numbers being right…

    But Justice Ginnane found that because the advice was mentioned in Associate Professor Giles’ affidavit and influenced her “state of mind”, a fact at issue in the case, they had to be given to Ms Loielo’s lawyers.

    “Associate Professor Giles’ affidavit may be taken, for present purposes, as her statement of reasons,” Justice Ginnane found.

    “Those parts that mention her consideration of charter rights suggest that she was, at least in part, influenced by the legal assessments that she was provided.

    “The legal advice that Associate Professor Giles considered appear to have influenced her ‘state of mind’ about the making of the directions.”

    Governments are allowed to legally infringe the rights of citizens if they show a clear intention to do so in the legislation.

    The release of the document comes a day after lawyers defending the government made a similar bid to withhold documents, this time on the basis of public interest immunity, in relation to health advice Associate Professor Giles consulted.

    In an affidavit filed in the Supreme Court on Monday, Associate Professor Giles said she made the decision to continue the curfew policy because, according to information she received, “the reduction of case numbers was due to the stage four restrictions being imposed”.

    Lawyers acting for Ms Loielo sought access to the information in order to challenge Associate Professor Giles’ conclusions. The other claim will be decided on Monday, as part of the trial.

    The government has said previously the curfew, which limits movement from 9pm to 5am, will remain in place until October 26, or until Melbourne reaches a 14-day average of five cases per day. The curfew came into effect on August 2.

    The decision to impose the curfew came into focus after Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton and Victoria Police Chief Commissioner Shane Patton both said it was not their idea.

    An affidavit filed by Ms Loielo said she feels “helpless” in the face of ongoing restrictions and fears that seeing the revenue of her business, Unica Cucina E Caffe, in Capel Sound on the Mornington Peninsula, drop by an estimated 99 per cent may result in her losing her house.

    David Estcourt

    Email

    David Estcourt is a court and general news reporter at The Age.

  117. Snoopy

    Then:

    Election fraud is unpossible.

    Now:

    Any election fraud will be inconsequential.

  118. notafan

    Will #dimtim #libspill trend on Twitter again today?

    IStandWithDanAndrews mob wasting all the pixels in their pathetic attempts to divert attention from #hotelquarantinefiasco

    Why is nine news or is it the Age now, but Costello?
    It’s up there with Murdoch as a mind control of the sheeple perjorative.

    Apparently Chip Me Grand is now a willing minion.

    No irony in #IStandWithDanAndrews Muppets calling anyone who disagrees mindless zombies.

  119. mh

    Cool start around SE Qld today.
    Warwick coldest with 1.7 C.

  120. Farmer Gez

    NZ Masks.

    Everywhere except Auckland returned to level one – the lowest of a four-tier alert system – on Monday after seven days of no Covid-19 community cases.

    This means life almost as normal – no more social distancing or caps on gatherings such as weddings or sporting events. Everyone can return to work without restriction and wearing a mask is no longer compulsory on public transport.

    The government says face coverings aren’t necessary for the general public when there is no evidence of community transmission.

    Country Vic is well and truly in the same boat and has been for weeks.
    Chairman Dan loves the muzzle, he’s got the ears for it.
    St. Jacinda tends to put holes in them.

  121. notafan

    What’s that bit about governments are allowed to legally infringe the rights of citizens if they show a clear intent…?
    The directives simply state the curfew hours. There is zero discussion about the reasons why it is okay.

  122. notafan

    And the curfew muddle is the stated intention to make policing easier.

    Wasn’t it Dan who said that.

  123. Boambee John

    Zycon

    The independent body that advises government said misogyny should be treated in the same way as other discrimination when it is the motivation for a crime.

    Strangely, the subject of misandry seems not to have been mentioned.

    Can’t have a red headed former PM criticised for discrimination, can we?

  124. Mater

    The documents came the same day that Justice Ginnane had rejected a bid by lawyers defending the Andrews government to withhold legal documents that discussed whether extending the curfew was a violation of Victoria’s Human Rights Charter.

    Why? We pay the politicians and the bureaucrats that produce this stuff. Unless it is genuinely Commercial-in-Confidence or an issue of national security, everything should transparent.

    The affidavits filed with the court on Thursday revealed that Associate Professor Giles relied in part on reports contained in two daily emails: an Outbreaks Summary Report and a COVID-19 intelligence report, the latter of which is confidential.

    Why is it confidential? This is not a living, breathing, thinking enemy who can take advantage of leaked intelligence. It’s a bloody virus which will not change it’s tactics in accordance with how we are expected to respond.
    They call it an “Intelligence Report”!
    Makes sense, I guess. One definition of “Intelligence” is:

    the collection of information of military or political value.

    God I’m sick of the Labor Party wasting my tax dollars trying to suppress information that my tax dollars paid to produce (see: Red Shirt Scandal)

  125. calli

    Victoria’s Deputy Public Health Commander.

    I’m in two minds about the design of this individual’s uniform, for a uniform he must surely have.

    Option 1 – lightning bolt decoration on coal black collar

    Option – Plague Doctor mask and cape

    Could be a mixture of both.

  126. Leigh Lowe

    JC

    #3596634, posted on September 25, 2020 at 1:15 am

    Arky

    How often does anyone really listen to the lyrics let alone understand the actual words in modern music?

    A bit of complaining about repetitive pop lyrics overnight.
    Have youse ever listened to “Hallelujah Chorus” by George Handle?

  127. Why? We pay the politicians and the bureaucrats that produce this stuff. Unless it is genuinely Commercial-in-Confidence or an issue of national security, everything should transparent.

    Absolutely correct.

    Except for that and privacy of the citizen, yes, all government action should be totally transparent.

    It’s our hard earned they are spending after all.

    The government isn’t a real entity. It’s an amorphous shield for some.

  128. Bruce of Newcastle

    Awww…

    Palestinian funding from Arab countries dropped by 85% in 2020 (24 Sep)

    Sorry Palis. Looks like the backers are utterly fed up with your bad behaviour.

  129. Mother Lode

    Media assault on Amy Coney Barrett begins as Trump weighs decision

    Much of it seems focused on her religion. It ought to be able to be rebutted by appealing to her record as a judge.

    Funny thing is that, being a black letter law judge, she will habitually exclude her own feelings and wishes.

    Every judge will be in a quandry where their personal beliefs will be at odds with the law – even an atheist. They have values too.

    The only judges you really need to worry about letting their own agenda and passions bleed into their work are the ones that Democrats choose, the activist judges, the ones who say that the constitution is a ‘living’ document that means whatever a judge says – “Oh, that would be me!”

  130. Bruce of Newcastle

    Betcha Numbers turns up shortly with the latest WaPo smear hit piece.
    Every time you thought a Dem lie was as low as they can go, they get even more despicable.

  131. Bill Clinton. The black letter law judge you can depend on.

    The law did not define sexual relations as a non-biologically productive sexual act. He’s hilariously correct about that.

    Trump would heal the planet by appointing Bill Clinton.

    He’s famously scandal free too. The Arkansas State Police have diaries.

  132. Gab

    This is not a living, breathing, thinking enemy who can take advantage of leaked intelligence. It’s a bloody virus which will not change it’s tactics in accordance with how we are expected to respond.

    No, no, mater. As Dan has been saying at every presser for weeks now, ”this is a wicked enemy”, it is an”evil enemy”.

  133. Tintarella di Luna

    Never date girls called

    Yoko
    Layla
    Pattie
    Angie
    Sharona
    Rosanna
    Rosalia
    Wendy
    Mary
    Taylor Swift

    What about Meghans

  134. Tintarella di Luna

    As Dan has been saying at every presser for weeks now, ”this is a wicked enemy”, it is an”evil enemy”.

    Always big- noting himself, the jug-eared dunce

  135. Mother Lode

    Seattle pays ex-pimp $150,000 to offer ‘alternatives to policing’

    There would have been a time years ago when Seattle might have seemed a desirable place – for young ‘uns there was the music. Then they had that TV series Frasier where it seemed a sophisticated city of restaurants, art galleries and opera.

    Now that all looks like a fantasy from childhood that you still cherish even though you know it belongs to childhood.

  136. The varus is actually a manifestation of Cthulhu.

    It’s hopeless, but there is one thing we can pray for, and that is TO BE EATEN FIRST!

    Dan Andrews PSA, Metallica, 1985.

  137. Tintarella di Luna

    Every judge will be in a quandry where their personal beliefs will be at odds with the law – even an atheist. They have values too.

    Ruth Bader Ginsberg is a case in point

  138. Pattie Boyd would have been a fantastic comari, but a wife?

    She was a never a varsity spouse.

  139. Tintarella di Luna

    Bill Clinton. The black letter law judge you can depend on.

    The law did not define sexual relations as a non-biologically productive sexual act. He’s hilariously correct about that.

    Trump would heal the planet by appointing Bill Clinton.

    He’s famously scandal free too. The Arkansas State Police have diaries.

    One small negative is that Bill Clinton is not a woman — but he could be if he identifies thusly

  140. Cows with guns
    Trucks with flags
    Sentient pitcher plants
    Eric Clapton stealing your wife

    There is much to fear in life that may never happen. Pick a religion of sorts, Christianity, Cthulu or Discordianism, Taosim & listen to Alan Watts or be an atheist and just accept fate.

  141. Leigh Lowe

    COVID-19 intelligence report, the latter of which is confidential.

    Why is it confidential? This is not a living, breathing, thinking enemy who can take advantage of leaked intelligence. It’s a bloody virus which will not change it’s tactics in accordance with how we are expected to respond.

    Mater, could it be that the “intel report” contains details of spread linked to BLM and “large family and cultural groups”?

  142. Oh come on

    Donald Trump was loudly booed by crowds as he visited the supreme court to pay his respects to Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the late justice and liberal icon who died last week aged 87.

    As the president and the first lady paused at Ginsburg’s casket, the crowd yelled: ‘Vote him out!’

    Great optics there. Well done, angry mob. The Trump campaign thanks you.

  143. Mater

    Mater, could it be that the “intel report” contains details of spread linked to BLM and “large family and cultural groups”?

    Quite possibly. I’m in no doubt that it regularly contains information of some inconvenience.

    The definition of ‘Intelligence’:

    the collection of information of military or political value.

  144. The Manager

    Here you are folks.
    When you have nothing else to do
    For all you frustrated travellers, this is a really good link .
    You can drive in 50 cities around the world and spend as much time in any one of them driving.
    You can set the speed of the vehicle, street noise, music and visit the world while at home.
    Pick the city of your choice from the list in the upper right.
    We can still travel while staying home

    https://driveandlisten.herokuapp.com/

  145. Tintarella di Luna

    thanks tom
    and thanks ted

    you’ve made my day – happy to go to work now

  146. One small negative is that Bill Clinton is not a woman — but he could be if he identifies thusly

    Clarence Thomas groped Bill Clinton in the Rose Garden.

  147. thefrollickingmole

    A bit of complaining about repetitive pop lyrics overnight.
    Have youse ever listened to “Hallelujah Chorus” by George Handle?

    Shit 80’s synth band
    Hold my beer.

  148. Leigh Lowe

    The law did not define sexual relations as a non-biologically productive sexual act. He’s hilariously correct about that.

    I enquired about that to the Chief Justice of the Lowe Domestic Court at the time.
    Whether or not a bit of extra-marital under desk fellatio constituted sexual relations.
    I was assured it did.
    There was a bit of obiter dictum in the judgement about what penalties may ensue, and how swift and furious and painful they might be.

  149. thefrollickingmole

    The varus is actually a manifestation of Cthulhu.

    It’s hopeless, but there is one thing we can pray for, and that is TO BE EATEN FIRST!

  150. Dr Faustus

    In Livin’ the Dream news:

    Police in Vietnam have confiscated an estimated 345,000 used condoms which had been cleaned and resold as new, state media reported.

    A 34-year-old woman detained during the bust told police that the used prophylactics were first boiled in water then dried and reshaped on a wooden phallus before being repackaged and resold.

    The detained woman said she had received $US0.17 ($0.24) for every kilogram of recycled condoms she produced.

    The owner of the warehouse said they had received a “monthly input of used condoms from an unknown person,” state newspaper Tuoi Tre reported.

    The ‘unknown person’ must have been a very busy boy…

  151. notafan

    Yes LL

    Like Sutton questioning employment of security guards because ‘socioeconomic’ reasons.

    And instead of dealing with reality of where the
    disease was spreading and why all of Melbourne’s five million inhabitants were locked up for political reasons

    Why #IStandWithDanAndrews is cranking out the danproganda

  152. Roger

    Here you are folks. When you have nothing else to do For all you frustrated travellers, this is a really good link . You can drive in 50 cities around the world and spend as much time in any one of them driving.

    Cool!

  153. Mother Lode

    I always like the line “I was born in a crossfire hurricane”.

    I understand it refers to the fact Keith Richards was born during an air raid and this is a great image.

    As it turns out I doubt he was in any real danger. Everybody else certainly, but he himself I think would be scarcely perturbed if all matter in the universe suddenly experienced forces of repulsion and each particle shot away from every other.

    Only Keith Richards can kill Keith Richards.

    Other than that, he will outlast eternity.

  154. mh

    Paywalled at the Age

    PAUL PISASALE
    ‘My daughter’s guinea pigs were strangled’: Miller claims intimidation
    Retired Bundamba Labor MP says her family faced intimidation after she raised complaints against Paul Pisasale.
    by Matt Dennien

  155. thefrollickingmole

    Now this is just special…

    The company no-one was responsible for hiring, which wasnt on any sort of normal tender process may be sued by the government for the bungled hotel quarantine.

    The company will go tits up, no assets to be gained, and those in charge will probably receive a nice little sinecure for going along with the charade.

    Victoria may be able to pursue security company for cost of hotel quarantine failures
    Contract signed with Unified Security under microscope as inquiry looks at causes of hotel quarantine fiasco

    whole article.

    The Victorian government could be indemnified against legal action relating to failures in the hotel quarantine program and may be able to pursue a security company for costs incurred in scrapping the scheme.

    The $30.2m services agreement signed between the Department of Jobs, Precincts and Regions and Unified in April states that the government can recoup any costs associated with having to complete services not properly provided by the company, or “any other loss incurred”.

    Unified was contracted to provide more guards to more hotels than any other security company employed by the government, despite it not being on its preferred services panel.

    Victoria’s second wave of coronavirus cases has been traced back to the Rydges hotel in Carlton, which Unified had been contracted to service, and the Stamford Plaza, which was guarded by MSS Security.

    The first case recorded in someone other than a guest at Rydges was a hotel employee, not a security guard, on 26 May.

    The state government would not comment on whether it planned to pursue legal action against Unified, or how much had been spent since the program was scrapped.

    Senior departmental figures contacted by Guardian Australia who were directly involved in negotiating with Unified did not return calls.

    The government has continued to pay multimillion dollar contracts for unused hotel rooms, and was forced to recruit a new workforce of guards who are being paid as much as $2,000 a week despite international arrivals being diverted from Victoria since early July.

    “An inquiry has been established at arm’s length from government to examine issues relating to hotel quarantine,” a government spokesman said.

    “We will let the inquiry do its work – our focus remains on containing this virus.”

    The inquiry into failures in Victoria’s hotel quarantine program has heard Unified was paid $44m by the government for providing almost 1,800 guards at 13 hotels.

    The security company has repeatedly stated that it is not at fault, as infection control was the responsibility of the Department of Health and Human Services.

    But the agreement makes clear that supply of personal protective equipment and provision of training – both of which, health experts say, are vital in maintaining adequate infection control – was the responsibility of the company.

    The agreement also states that the company can only incur a debt from the department in relation to any losses if the company is found to have breached the contract.

    Neither the government nor Unified would comment about whether the company had been found to have breached the agreement.

    In evidence before the inquiry on Tuesday, however, the department secretary, Simon Phemister, said he did not believe that Unified had sought approval for subcontractors prior to engaging them, as was required under the agreement.

    A spokesman for Unified disputed this in a statement released to Guardian Australia on Wednesday.

    “The department made it clear in the procurement process that subcontracting was permitted,” the spokesman said.

    “The department was fully aware, at both the executive level and on the ground at the hotels, of the use of subcontractors throughout the delivery of the services.

    “The nature of the hotel quarantine job, where a large number of people were needed on multiple sites at very short notice, required the use of subcontractors in order to fulfil the demand.”

    He declined to comment on whether Unified was still owed money by the government.

    The agreement could be central to several legal cases involving the state government and Unified.

    The state government is being pursued for costs relating to its handling of the pandemic in two separate cases, and Unified and MSS Security are being sued as part of a class action on behalf of those whose family members died of coronavirus contracted in the second wave.

    Inquiry hearings before former judge Jennifer Coate continue on Thursday, with the key question of who came up with the idea to use private security guards in hotel quarantine yet to be resolved. Premier Daniel Andrews is set to give evidence on Friday afternoon.

  156. Struth

    Another day in the new Socialist policing zone of UN area 61.

  157. Dr Faustus

    “In line with coronavirus restrictions, at this stage we do not require any assistance from the public,” local police wrote on Facebook on Tuesday night.

    “We want to say a big thank you however, for the all the offers we have received.”

    Someone has attained competency in Cert III Public Relations.
    With Gold Star and Elephant Stamp.

  158. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ‘Do a deal or design new Aboriginal flag’, says Marcia Langton

    Greg Brown
    Journalist
    @gregbrown_TheOz
    8:47PM September 24, 2020

    Indigenous leader Marcia Langton says Australia may need a ­different Aboriginal flag if the government fails to acquire the rights to the current one.

    Professor Langton said she did not support the compulsory ­acquisition of the Aboriginal flag, and urged the government to try to entice designer Harold Thomas and all licence holders to relinquish their rights to its design based on a “rigorous valuation of its commercial value”.

    She said if Mr Thomas and ­licence holders would not sell their rights to the design, “our only alternative is to have a competition for another flag design”.

    “I am totally opposed to compulsory acquisition of any kind,” Professor Langton told a parliamentary inquiry into the rights of the Aboriginal flag.

    “I can see why compulsory ­acquisition would be attractive but it wouldn’t solve the problem. There is nothing to stop Mr Thomas from issuing further ­licences. There must be a voluntary and total relinquishment of his rights to the Australian government in order to overcome the problems.”

    The Australian revealed earlier this month that the Morrison government is negotiating to ­potentially buy the commercial rights to the ­Aboriginal flag from non-­Indigenous licensees and the flag’s Indigenous designer, in a move that would allow the design to be used freely.

    If the federal government is to ­become the copyright holder, it must first compensate the licence holders, then buy the copyright from Mr Thomas.

    Mr Thomas’s copyright over the flag design was recognised by the Federal Court in 1997.

    In June 1995, then governor-general Bill Hayden proclaimed the Aboriginal flag a “flag of ­significance to the Australian ­nation”. This means that, under the Flags Act of 1953, anyone is free to display the Aboriginal flag.

    However, Mr Thomas is entitled to strike deals with businesses to reproduce his design, and he has done so.

    Professor Langton said a forced acquisition would be an “injustice” to Mr Thomas.

    “He is an Aboriginal person, and doing so will create a very bad precedent in terms of breaching the constitution and in the ­appearance of an act based on ­racial discrimination,” she said.

    “He is a member of the Stolen Generations and to cause him harm a second time, for the ­government to cause him harm a second time, would be unconscionable. Harold Thomas has had legal rights for a very long time to issue licences to whoever he pleases. It is a very unfortunate outcome but his ownership of the flag needs to be respected and treated with respect.”

    Professor Langton said if the government was successful in buying the rights to the flag, a new commonwealth body should be established by legislation that “sets out very clearly the ownership and use of the flag”.

    “The independent body (should) be governed by an Aboriginal board,” she said.

    Dealing with the issues that really matter?

  159. Struth

    How many in the Istandwith Dan club?
    > or < SFA?

  160. Roger

    Retired Bundamba Labor MP says her family faced intimidation after she raised complaints against Paul Pisasale.

    Miller is one of the last representatiives of ‘old Labor’ in QLD.

    Kerry Shine, whom I mentioned yesterday, is another.

    Miller voted against the decriminalisation of abortion in QLD; Shine said he would have if he’d still been in parliament.

  161. calli

    Only Keith Richards can kill Keith Richards.

    Has he met Chuck Norris yet?

    Alien vs Predator.

  162. Dr Faustus

    In evidence before the inquiry on Tuesday, however, the department secretary, Simon Phemister, said he did not believe that Unified had sought approval for subcontractors prior to engaging them, as was required under the agreement.

    Note to Simon Phemister: Tip for young players: when entering a services contract, best practice says ‘Always check whether the contractor has access to the human resources necessary to deliver’.

  163. Cassie of Sydney

    This is a great discussion and I urge people to listen to it….

    “Moralitis: Is Woke Groupthink A Mental Malady? Can A Cultural “Virus” be Cured?”

  164. Cassie of Sydney

    I will try again…if not I will post link…

  165. notafan

    Baloney

    I believe there was a subcontractor clause in the contract and besides a simple question might be how many staff do you employ answer 100 okay here’s 44 million for round the clock security at these locations.

  166. notafan

    Are Unified in liquidation yet?

  167. Roger

    French physiologist says covid has revealed that we have reached “the ceiling” of human life.

    And we just have to live with it as lockdowns have been demonstrated to have no effect on mortality rates.

    Here.

  168. thefrollickingmole

    Interesting idea.
    I think the 3rd point might be missing a little nuance about the government “bloating” and becoming a depository for the elites to play in as well as secure resources for their own “class”.
    https://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2020/09/welcome-to-the-turbulent-twenties.html

    Our model is based on the fact that across history, what creates the risk of political instability is the behavior of elites, who all too often react to long-term increases in population by committing three cardinal sins.

    First, faced with a surge of labor that dampens growth in wages and productivity, elites seek to take a larger portion of economic gains for themselves, driving up inequality.

    Second, facing greater competition for elite wealth and status, they tighten up the path to mobility to favor themselves and their progeny. For example, in an increasingly meritocratic society, elites could keep places at top universities limited and raise the entry requirements and costs in ways that favor the children of those who had already succeeded.

    Third, anxious to hold on to their rising fortunes, they do all they can to resist taxation of their wealth and profits, even if that means starving the government of needed revenues, leading to decaying infrastructure, declining public services and fast-rising government debts.

  169. Dr Faustus

    Miller is one of the last representatiives of ‘old Labor’ in QLD.

    And a victim of the unspeakable Jackie Trad.
    Telling that after 20 years service, having delivered her resignation speech to Parliament, the bunch of members on the ALP benches remained seated and silent.

  170. Roger

    Telling that after 20 years service, having delivered her resignation speech to Parliament, the bunch of members on the ALP benches remained seated and silent.

    Yet their action spoke volumes.

    No room for decency in new Labor.

  171. thefrollickingmole

    In breaking news, surprising no-one…
    Loopy lefty wimmins brought to slightly more unhingement by the death of RBG finds her true messiah.

    Reading through the Seven Tenets, I was struck by how closely they aligned with the unwritten code I had used to try to guide my own life for several years. I realized, happily, that these were my people and that I had been a Satanist for several years without even knowing it.

    And whats the one burning issue above all, the sacrament of sacraments for prog ladiiies evrywhere?
    Even before Ginsburg’s death, the Supreme Court was unwilling to provide adequate protection for a woman’s right to choose and to control her body.

    Minced baby bits.

  172. Makka

    Mater, could it be that the “intel report” contains details of spread linked to BLM and “large family and cultural groups”?

    Yes, political intel. Such as ” we can’t piss off this particular demographic without risking the seat in the next election.”

    Remember, everything is politics followed by corruption. Daylight third.

  173. Tintarella di Luna

    Well colour me surprised, the witch hunt looks like it’s in trouble: Robbie Burns comes to mind –

    the best laid plans of mice and men (and witches) gang aft agley

    -The coven is under threat the witches left out a few ingredients — they forgot to add to the cauldron the Adder’s fork and blind-worm’s sting and wool of bat was hard to come by during to COVID-19 — they should have stuck to the recipe :

    Immunity could threaten ADF war crimes trials
    EXCLUSIVE
    BEN PACKHAM
    FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND DEFENCE CORRESPONDENT
    8:25PM SEPTEMBER 24, 2020
    Investigators fear high-level immunity provided to witnesses in the Brereton war crimes inquiry could taint cases against special forces veterans, raising the prospect of mistrials and High Court challenges.

    The Inspector General of the Australian Defence Force announced on Thursday that the ­inquiry into alleged breaches of the laws of war by Australian ­soldiers in Afghanistan was “in its final stages”.

    All “potentially affected persons” — including, The Australian understands, war hero Ben Roberts-Smith — have been notified, the inspector general said.

    It is understood the inquiry, by NSW Supreme Court judge Major General Paul Brereton, is focused on eight to 10 of the most serious alleged crimes identified in interviews with more than 330 witnesses, including alleged murders of unarmed civilians and prisoners by Special Air Service and Commando operators.

    Intense discussions are now under way over the amount of evidence obtained by Justice Brereton that can be made public or passed to the Australian Federal Police without jeopardising future trials.

    The inspector general, which has coercive questioning powers, offers an extraordinary level of ­immunity to witnesses known as “derivative use immunity”. It means prosecutors are unable to use “any information, document or thing obtained as a direct or indirect consequence” of evidence to the inspector general by a witness who is later charged.

    Melbourne University Law School professor Jeremy Gans said enforcement agencies and prosecutors “hate derivative use immunity” because it posed a “much greater chance of mistrial”.

    “(A prosecutor) can’t use your words, and they can’t use information that came as a consequence of that,” Professor Gans said.

    “But that’s the tricky bit — ­determining what is a consequence of what they have learned from you, and separating that from the investigation.

    “It gives (the defence) an argument that they would otherwise not have, that ‘You only got this piece of damning evidence against me because of the answer I gave to the earlier hearing’.”

    Evidence to the corporate regulator attracted the same derivative use immunity until 1992, when it successfully lobbied the government for the protection to be ­removed because it made prosecutions too difficult.

    Sources said the AFP would have to “go in cold” in its investigations, interviewing all necessary witnesses to build cases against ­alleged war criminals, including those in Afghanistan.

    It is understood the AFP and Defence lawyers are meeting regularly to work through the difficulties, which are seen as serious but “not insurmountable”.

    A Defence spokeswoman said Chief of the Defence Force Angus Campbell would decide what information was made available from the inspector general’s report.

    Professor Gans said the application of the immunity was “fiendishly complex”, and largely untested in Australian courts.

    “The law remains unresolved and this will be a high profile matter. That means there is a good chance this could end up in the High Court one way or another,” he said. If a prosecutor received ­information “it is always open for the defendant then to say, ‘This is an abuse of process, and this trial needs to stop forever’.

    “Neither the prosecution nor the defence may even know where the information came from. But everyone will be thinking, ‘Could it be because of something my client said at one of these closed hearings?’.”

    A court heard recently that AFP investigators told Mr Roberts-Smith they had “eyewitness accounts” implicating the Victoria Cross recipient in ­alleged war crimes in Afghanistan.

    The former SAS corporal vehemently denies any wrongdoing, and is suing Nine Entertainment newspapers over allegations against him.

  174. Makka

    The $30.2m services agreement signed between the Department of Jobs, Precincts and Regions and Unified in April

    So there is a document containing a price. Which would have gone through an approval process containing delegated authorities. Follow it through to most senior e-signature and you have the person who authorised the quarantine contract.

    Senior departmental figures contacted by Guardian Australia who were directly involved in negotiating with Unified did not return calls.

    That peron is in this group Of course they aren’t available. He/she has a target on their back.

    In evidence before the inquiry on Tuesday, however, the department secretary, Simon Phemister, said he did not believe that Unified had sought approval for subcontractors prior to engaging them, as was required under the agreement.

    Another highly paid tax eater who knows when it comes to responsibility and accountability he will be a thousand kms away from it.

  175. Top Ender

    We’re all in this together – hahahahahahahahahahahaha

    We believe it was Marcus Aurelius who said “What we post online in this life, echoes in eternity” — a lesson currently being learnt by Jacinda Ardern.

    Could the photogenic Prime Minister across the ditch be brought down in New Zealand’s biggest political scandal — a selfie?

    A mass selfie actually, taken on the delayed campaign trail as the Labour leader toured Massey University in Palmerston North last Thursday.

    Ardern was flooded by students as she left the campus and, apparently after calling for space, decided to embrace the mob for a cheek to cheek, not socially distanced snap.

    Under current coronavirus restrictions, Kiwis are asked keep 2m apart in public.

    “All the way through on the campaign trail and even before during alert level settings, I work really hard not to shake people’s hands,” Ardern explained on Monday.

    “I sanitise. I wear my mask in Auckland, and I work hard to try and keep my social distance.”

    She eventually apologised for the selfish selfie.

    “In that particular photo, I did make a mistake. I should have stepped further forward. I should have asked them to step apart from each other, and I acknowledge that.”

    Oz Strewth column

  176. calli

    Are Unified in liquidation yet?

    Do they have a current licence to operate yet?

  177. Nick

    Just a question. If Andrews and Labor have moulded Victoria’s institutions into their own, woke, image, why all the unclear denials ? Why not just come out and own it? It seems weird to be doing one thing and giving the impression to the electorate, of another.

  178. min

    Mikakos and Pakula stood side by side on March 29th to announce that overseas arrivals had been met by security guards the previous day ( michaelsmithnews news) reported in The Age. As she swore oath on bible when I was watching is this Perjury ?

  179. twostix

    Reading through the Seven Tenets, I was struck by how closely they aligned with the unwritten code I had used to try to guide my own life for several years. I realized, happily, that these were my people and that I had been a Satanist for several years without even knowing it.

    This is absolutely the best time to be alive.

    If you read anything today click on thefrollickingmole’s Huffington Post link.

    The Death Of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Pushed Me To Join The Satanic Temple

    The Huffington Post is, as of now, openly encouraging its godless, nationless, retarded urban white collar middle class readers to literally go join the Temple of Satan and worship baphomet, complete with a photo of a statue of baphomet and children looking lovingly up at him.

    I mean, at this moment all across the world there are hundreds of thousands of dumbo professionals, from IT to HR, reading that, hmmmming and nodding in agreement that yes, we must do something, and baphomet, does seem more reasonable that stupid bigot christian imaginary Sky Fairy.

  180. dover_beach

    Fisky, heard the latest on the Steele dossier? Explosive.

  181. Dr Faustus

    Family fearing homelessness after their landlord began calling in ‘deferred rent’ as Queensland’s coronavirus eviction moratorium ends

    Ice on the waves as the Ship of State ploughs on towards the icebergs.

    Chances that the National Cabinet will go all laissez faire with 10,000’s of newly evicted homeless?
    5%? 10%?

    Next Up: Residential mortgage crisis.
    Next Up: Commercial property crisis.

    Hopefully the CMO’s have thought this all through carefully.

  182. min

    Apologies information came from ABC news with story of Mikakos and Pakula announcing use of security guarda, along with pictures , on the 29th March.

  183. Des Deskperson

    ‘The $30.2m services agreement signed between the Department of Jobs, Precincts and Regions and Unified in April’

    And I finally found it on the Buying for Victoria website, contract #555592, start date 29 March, $30,200,ooo.

    But when you go to the link – which I can’t seem to paste in – its says ‘redacted’ and when you try to open the agreement, it’s gibberish.

  184. notafan

    Now is the time for rent reductions. Or investor* can sell.

    More pain for the private sector.

    *if public servant less sympathy available.

  185. Dr Faustus

    But when you go to the link – which I can’t seem to paste in – its says ‘redacted’ and when you try to open the agreement, it’s gibberish.

    Seems like that was the version that was implemented.

  186. min

    Will someone tell Marcia Langton that flags are cultural appropriation .

  187. Zyconoclast

    Former Black Panther to be released after more than 49 years in prison

    Jalil Muntaqim was one of several black liberation radicals incarcerated for decades in the wake of political and racial turbulence of the 1960s and 70s

  188. Mater

    Chances that the National Cabinet will go all laissez faire with 10,000’s of newly evicted homeless?
    5%? 10%?

    Next Up: Residential mortgage crisis.
    Next Up: Commercial property crisis.

    As long as Monty isn’t evicted from his basement, everything is A-OK.
    Lockdown completely justified.
    Surely these mortgages will “snap back”? If not, where is their “pilot light”?

  189. Arky

    and baphomet, does seem more reasonable that stupid bigot christian imaginary Sky Fairy.

    ..
    They’re doing it to take the piss.
    Dangerous game, they could find themselves on a very slippery slope, and find that the entities they pretend now to worship as an annoyance to Christians take on a life of their very own.

  190. Dr Faustus

    min:…ABC news with story of Mikakos and Pakula announcing use of security guarda, along with pictures , on the 29th March.

    Des:…on the Buying for Victoria website, contract #555592, start date 29 March, $30,200,ooo.

    Starting point in a nutshell.
    Hopefully Justice Coates has the same investigative zeal.

  191. Makka

    Why not just come out and own it?

    Because the “woke” brigade are inherently dumb and that is not something they want to advertise.

  192. Fat Tony

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3596748, posted on September 25, 2020 at 8:17 am
    Awww…
    Palestinian funding from Arab countries dropped by 85% in 2020 (24 Sep)
    Sorry Palis. Looks like the backers are utterly fed up with your bad behaviour.

    Showing the bad effect that “foreign aid” has on countries.
    No money coming in will make it a lot harder for the ruling “class” to maintain their grip

  193. Zyconoclast

    Boris Johnson stirs up Italy’s rage as girlfriend visits Lake Como

    Johnson’s comments were met with anger in the Italian press, which said the PM implied the country’s fascist past made the people ready to kowtow to authority.

  194. Mother Lode

    Only Keith Richards can kill Keith Richards.

    Has he met Chuck Norris yet?

    That is like one of those logical paradoxes that they set 1st year philosophy students. Like asking them to decide what would happen if the immovable object were to encounter the irresistible force.

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