Chancellor Dan and the Finger Men

TAFKAS was just reading John Roskam’s oped in today’s AFR:

Why I was right about Victoria’s police state

What a shocker.  Not Roskam’s piece but what he was writing about and the latest breathtaking piece of legislation being proposed by the Victorian Government:

The first is the power it gives the government to authorise anyone it chooses to exercise – without oversight, accountability, or the right of appeal – the draconian powers of Victoria’s health regulations, which include arrest, detention, entry into homes and workplaces without a warrant, and the seizure of property.

The second is the power it gives to those so authorised by the government to arrest and indefinitely detain a person who is suspected of being someone who could potentially breach the health regulations.

Authorising citizens to forcibly enter the homes of other citizens and to detain them and seize their property – without warrant or the right of appeal.

This is not Australia.

And by the way where is the Prime Minister?  Nothing to say there Scotty?  Or are you ok with this because it will create jobs, jobs for political cronies at the expense of law abiding citizens but nonetheless.

What a coward you are Mr Prime Minister.

But all of this brought to mind the 2005 movie come documentary V for Vendetta.  The plot as recorded in Wikipedia:

The world is in turmoil, with the United States fractured as a result of a second civil war and a pandemic of the “St. Mary’s Virus” ravaging Europe. The United Kingdom is ruled as a Nordic supremacist and neo-fascist police state by the Norsefire Party, helmed by all-powerful High Chancellor Adam Sutler. Political opponents, immigrants, Jews, Muslims, atheists, homosexuals, and other “undesirables” are imprisoned and executed.

Much like the Kim Family of North Korea have used Orwell’s 1984 as an operating manual, the Daniel’s administration may have taken the script for this movie as their operating manual.

But Australians should not be concerned.  If things really get bad, we can leave our state or our country.  Wait hang on, maybe not.

This is not Australia.  We are governed by tyrants, cowards and fools and we can’t escape.

Watch the below documentary.

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31 Responses to Chancellor Dan and the Finger Men

  1. Tim Neilson

    Political opponents, immigrants, Jews, Muslims, atheists, homosexuals, and other “undesirables” are imprisoned and executed.

    Scaremongering. Immigrants, Mvsl!ms, atheists and homosexuals will be perfectly safe.

  2. jo

    When they come for me, the first ones will be dead before I am. These fools seem to forget when there is nothing left to lose there is nothing they can threaten you with. Yes this is a death threat.

  3. Bruce

    The “Tube” description text is interesting:

    “In 2032, the world is in turmoil, with the United States fractured as a result of prolonged second civil war and a pandemic of the “St. Mary’s Virus” that ravaged the UK and Europe 14 years earlier. The United Kingdom is ruled as a fascist police state by the Norsefire Party, under the all-powerful High Chancellor Adam Sutler. ”

    I wish life would stop imitating “art”!

  4. Perfidious Albino

    Coincidently I watched V for Vendetta again just last night. One of my all time favourites and so very prescient.

    It was amusing a few weeks ago when luvvie Hugo Weaving (who played ‘V’) complained that so many people were drawing parallels between the fictional regime of High Chancellor Adam Sutler and Daniel Andrews Victoria.

    The parallels are extraordinary, I just don’t think poor Hugo expected it to be the left who turned out to be the baddies…

  5. Boambee John

    jo
    #3597203, posted on September 25, 2020 at 4:30 pm
    When they come for me, the first ones will be dead before I am. These fools seem to forget when there is nothing left to lose there is nothing they can threaten you with. Yes this is a death threat.

    How many here remember the lefty protesters of the 1960s chanting “When you’ve got nothing, you’ve got nothing to lose”?

  6. Steve

    All Victorians have to do is stand up and say to the powers that be “No more” , and it stops……

    The french farmers go bolshie and get the govt to back down, the problem has been that Australians have never really had to fight for their freedom like in america. So I suspect a lot of Victorians are watching with a sense of amusement and bewilderment wondering when it will stop. It will stop when they stand up en mass and tell the govt to back off. It will likely get ugly, but then putting a whole population effectively into an open air prison then the govt crawling up their rear ends with draconian legislation is new for Australians too….were good at fighting for other peoples causes, but now it appears we have one forced on us we have to deal with.

    Its kinda weird – I was telling a good mate of mine for years this was coming, he is pretty laid back and said “maybe you need to drink more” and I was annoyed as he couldn’t see it. Now however…..I suspect he can see it pretty clearly….

  7. Professor Fred Lenin

    Morrisonmay be following Napoleons instruction”never interfere with an enemy when he is making mistakes” . The Federal ALP must be spewing at the damage Andrews has done and is continuing to do to the ALP brand. Even their own wholly owned media is attacking him ,as if they didnt have enough to contend with ,a total lack of talent in the whole parliamentary party and the unpopularity of their state colleagues ,they will end up like the US decromats, absolutely stuffed .

  8. Bela Bartok

    I wrote to the Prime Minister and got this response:

    PRIME MINISTER Parliament House CANBERRA ACT 2600
    Bela Bartok, Thank you for taking the time to write to me about your experiences in recent weeks. This is a frustrating and difficult time for every Victorian.
    I understand how crushing the roadmap feels to you and every Victorian.
    We are carefully reviewing the plan and will be providing constructive feedback to the Victorian Government.
    As you would be aware, the Commonwealth Government does not have that authority to step in and tell the Victorian Government they have to follow another plan. That is not how Australia’s federation works.

    So it’s incumbent upon us to work constructively with the Victorian Government and to address the issues raised by so many Victorians. That’s what we are doing. I know many Victorians are under great pressure.

    For many, it’s the toughest year of their lives. Managing your mental health is vital in such circumstances. If you are feeling stressed or alone, I encourage you to talk to someone you trust – family, friends…

    So, in others, Oh dear, how sad, never mind.

  9. stevem

    It may well be that the Prime Minister has been pressuring Andrews on this matter. It was only a freedom of information request that revealed the Prime Minister wrote three very strongly worded letters to Andrews personally over the hotel issue in the course of a week. It would appear that the Prime Minister prefers to keep these matters out of the public eye.
    I would expect that to change the instant the laws are presented to the upper house.

  10. Arnost

    Oh dear, how sad, never mind.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm3nQPOWycI

    He doesn’t yet realise that people will (rightly or not) blame him for not doing “something”.

  11. Perfidious Albino

    Big fail in that response from Scomo, though sadly not a surprise. You don’t ‘work constructively’ with a totalitarian regime, doing so only lends it legitimacy.

    When a leader removes and actively traduces the checks and balances of democratic governance and the common law, as Andrews has done, they should not be allowed to rely on the ‘niceties’ of those same institutions still applying to them.

    For Scomo not to have even expressed concern for what is happening here in Victoria under Andrews is an appalling indictment on his moral courage. Edmund Burke would be disgusted.

  12. Anonandon

    Scomo should make it subtly clear to the rest of Australia that they are the ones providing the financial support for the Vic Gov fuckups.

  13. Nato

    You actually had me worried that the PM had turned his back on the people, but I checked his twitter feed and he is grappling with the real issues facing us as a nation. A rich celebrity died.

  14. Ozman

    Daniel Michael Andrews 48 yrs old, soon to be dealt with accordingly. Failure does not cut it in the court of has-beens.

    Australia’s State of Victoria Sold Out to the Soros-Backed Strong Cities Network (SCN) with PRIVATISED POLICE

  15. Speedbox

    Bela Bartok
    #3597237, posted on September 25, 2020 at 5:09 pm

    Our Federal Government and each of the State Premiers will be thanking God that Australia doesn’t have a Bill of Rights or explicit freedoms written into our Constitution about peaceful protest, free speech etc.

    There are a few elements, such as the right to vote (Section 41), protection against acquisition of property on unjust terms (Section 51 (xxxi)), the right to a trial by jury (Section 80), freedom of religion (Section 116) and prohibition of discrimination on the basis of State of residency (Section 117) but these don’t matter in the current context.

    The right to move freely about the country or even leave the country (Section 12) is unworkable as it is effectively overridden by the words “shall not be subject to any restrictions except those which are provided by law….”. In other words, you don’t really have this right because laws cancel it out.

    The ‘Federation’ has been shown to be what it is and our Federal Government have no intention of intervening notwithstanding that our democracy and common law freedoms date back to the Magna Carta. Beyond that, Australia is signatory to any number of UN Human Rights Charters – but too bad, so sad. We have routinely castigated those nations we said were constricting human rights.

    In case I haven’t been clear – this country is a hypocritical shit hole and your ‘freedoms’ are only yours because the Government deign to allow it. Bela, our State and Federal Governments will do what they like, when they like and you will suck it up. You’re welcome.

  16. Dave in Marybrook

    Bravo Sparts. I’ve been calling CMOs and health-check police “Fingermen” for a couple of months now, but it hasn’t stuck yet. Probably because mine pinko lefty surrounds are graphic novel and film-wise illiterate, and also because we’re not facing up to what is happening in Victorivostok.
    Another good take out from V for Vendetta is to hold up a worthy tome, like Oprah’s These things I know, and St Jacinda’s I Know This To Be True, and saying “You know, she’s ripped that sort of title off Adam Suttler? Google him, you’d be amazed the influence he’s had on progressive polemics….”

  17. Slayer of Memes

    Good evening, London.

    Allow me first to apologize for this interruption.

    I do, like many of you, appreciate the comforts of every day routine – the security of the familiar, the tranquility of repetition. I enjoy them as much as any bloke.

    But in the spirit of commemoration, whereby those important events of the past usually associated with someone’s death or the end of some awful bloody struggle, are celebrated with a nice holiday, I thought we could mark this November the 5th, a day that is sadly no longer remembered, by taking some time out of our daily lives to sit down and have a little chat.

    There are of course those who do not want us to speak.

    I suspect even now, orders are being shouted into telephones, and men with guns will soon be on their way.

    Why?

    Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth.

    And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn’t there?

    Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission.

    How did this happen? Who’s to blame?

    Well certainly there are those who are more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you’re looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.

    I know why you did it.

    I know you were afraid.

    Who wouldn’t be? War, terror, disease.

    There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense.

    Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to the now high chancellor, Adam Sutler.

    He promised you order, he promised you peace, and all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent.

    Last night, I sought to end that silence.

    Last night, I destroyed the Old Bailey, to remind this country of what it has forgotten.

    More than four hundred years ago, a great citizen wished to embed the 5th of November forever in our memory. His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words – they are perspectives. So if you’ve seen nothing, if the crimes of this government remain unknown to you, then I would suggest you allow the 5th of November to pass unmarked.

    But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me one year from tonight, outside the gates of Parliament, and together we shall give them a 5th of November that shall never, ever be forgot.

  18. mareeS

    TAKFAS, you may be underestimating the PM. Enough rope, etc.

  19. mareeS.

    Tafkas is not underestimating the PM. He is surprised he can feed himself.

  20. duncanm

    Where the hell is the governor in all this? They can refuse to give assent to law, no?

  21. John A

    Perfidious Albino #3597214, posted on September 25, 2020, at 4:40 pm

    Coincidently I watched V for Vendetta again just last night. One of my all-time favourites and so very prescient.

    It was amusing a few weeks ago when luvvie Hugo Weaving (who played ‘V’) complained that so many people were drawing parallels between the fictional regime of High Chancellor Adam Sutler and Daniel Andrews Victoria.

    The parallels are extraordinary, I just don’t think poor Hugo expected it to be the left who turned out to be the baddies…

    Correlation is not causation but may indicate a common source.

    A few days ago I posted a quote from a book I am reading (Kindle version). Reposted here now as being relevant to the thread:

    For the Jews, further restrictions soon followed. From July 1942, Jews were banned from parks, theatres and cinemas, cafés and restaurants, swimming pools, racecourses and campsites, museums and libraries. They could travel only at limited, inconvenient hours and occupy only the last carriage of railway trains. They were not permitted to use the main streets or to leave home after 8 p.m. Jews were barred from almost all public places and could shop for only one hour a day. In effect, they became invisible in public.

    “Defying the Holocaust: Ten courageous Christians who supported Jews” by Dr Tim Dowley. Kindle edition pp45-46 describing Nazi restrictions upon Jews in Paris WW2. Emphasis mine.

  22. PB

    “Where the hell is the governor in all this? They can refuse to give assent to law, no?”

    Have you seen her? She’s totally on side….their side. For her the plan is coming together. Divided loyalty too.

  23. duncanm

    My bad.. I just looked her up.

    Sorry Victorians, you’re fucked.

  24. Jannie

    If things really get bad, we can leave our state or our country. Wait hang on, maybe not.

    Australia is the last refuge, like in On the Beach.

    In this last of meeting places
    We grope together
    And avoid speech
    Gathered on this beach of the tumid river.

    TS Eliot

  25. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Daniel Andrews has made it clear he’s a control freak who controls nothing and his evidence to the hotel quarantine inquiry shows he has lost confidence in his own government, revealing him to be mere passenger on a ship of fools, writes Andrew Bolt.

    hahaha

  26. Hay Stockard

    A Norse state? Sign me up. Hot Viking chicks dig scars.
    Signed
    Hay the delightfully chubby.

  27. Mique

    I’m amazed at the number of people blaming Morrison for not doing “something” to stop Andrews behaving like a dictator in Victoria. Don’t they understand that the Prime Minister has no power to actually do anything other than express his disapproval. Given that a majority of Victorians support Andrews’ actions, and Queenslanders the Palace Chook’s, expressing his disapproval is likely to be counterproductive as Victorians will circle the wagons and the ABC and the rest of the leftist media will go after him. So why should Morrison not just sit pat like the rest of us and enjoy the spectacle of Victorians getting the government they deserve, and the ALP self-destructing before his very eyes?

    And other naifs wonder why the Governor is doing nothing. Hasn’t these people learnt anything about the powers of Governors and when and how they may be exercised? With that sort of nonsense rattling about nobody is likely to learn anything in here either.

  28. TPL001

    Or, Mique, why doesn’t Morrison use a tactic out the ALP’s playbook, and institute a Royal Commission into the quarantining fiasco, which would include Victoria and Queensland? They have quarantine powers under the Constitution. That, hopefully, may dig out more of the grubby mess in VIC and QLD.

  29. duncanm

    Mique

    ..and other naifs wonder why the Governor is doing nothing. Hasn’t these people learnt anything about the powers of Governors and when and how they may be exercised?

    Mique,

    I understand that the governor can do something, by refusing to give assent to law legislature which passed in parliament, even if it is currently considered a formality.

  30. old bloke

    Authorising citizens to forcibly enter the homes of other citizens and to detain them and seize their property – without warrant or the right of appeal.

    Not only detained, but detained INDEFINITELY without a right to appeal.

    Think about this; you mention to your next door neighbour that you think that the COVID restrictions are a bit too harsh, and the next door neighbour reports you to the “authorised persons” (private police force?) Unfortunately for you, your next door neighbour is a Karen.

    The “authorised persons” then come to your house, force entry, take your stuff, then take you away. You won’t be able to appeal against this injustice, you won’t be tried in a court of law, and your imprisonment won’t have an end date.

  31. Mique

    TOL001, he could, but I think it would be what Sir Humphrey would call a very brave decision. Once again, unless you know the outcome, you risk finding what you don’t want to find. The media would have his guts for garters.

    duncanm, absent actual illegality in the State government’s legislation, and if it’s been passed by parliament (and does not actually break national or international law) how can it be illegal, I think the Governor would feel bound by convention to grant assent. The Game and Kerr decisions to sack their heads of government were both based on the illegality of the governments. In this current case, I think Andrews would not hesitate to go to the Queen to appoint a new more compliant Governor if this one played hard to get and, as the Kerr/Palace correspondence showed, the Queen would almost certainly comply.

    I still maintain that the entire problem, world and Australia-wide, particularly in Victoria, is a classic example of people getting the government they deserve. Perhaps the only exceptions are the Chinese and other citizens of totalitarian states with absolutely no control over who governs them.

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