Ministerial responsibility: if not now, when?

It has been a long tradition in a Parliamentary democracy that the responsibility for governance failure falls with the relevant minister or ministers and for gross governance failures with the Prime Minister or Premier.

In recent years this convention has fallen away, although it still holds when the governance failure is sufficiently great.

The Victorian Government has presided over the greatest governance failure in history. The consequences of those failings are so great and so profound that the Victorian economy has effectively been destroyed and recovery will be beyond most persons’ lifespans. Further, the destruction is permanent – the loss to GSP will never be recovered, there is no reversion to trend growth.

And what does Dan Andrews do? He apologises and tries to introduce the most draconian piece of legislation in Australian history.

If there is a time for ministerial responsibility it is now. Dan Andrews and his entire Cabinet should immediately resign both from the Ministry but also from Parliament. They should count themselves lucky not to be locked up for the destruction they have wrought on a once proud State through both incompetence and wilful blindness.

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46 Responses to Ministerial responsibility: if not now, when?

  1. stackja

    The ALP in federal and states and territories has never been held to face the consequences.

  2. Shy Ted

    But what will they do for money? Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Taxpayers $ secretly squirreled.

  3. Ceres

    Thank you for your precise piece. The only thing to add is where is Scott Morrison in saying exactly what you have said particularly in regard to the proposed draconian legislation? The situation is dire here in Victoria.

  4. WolfmanOz

    Noble sentiments, but it ain’t gonna happen.

  5. Roger

    Resign?

    You’re talking about a man who swears on the Bible and then tells blatant lies to a commission of inquiry.

    Integrity and honour are not virtues Andrews is acquainted with.

  6. Rossini

    Obviously written in jest!

  7. Ladyredneck

    And the “Sorry, not sorry” thing is just so much horseshit. The debasement of apologies started in Australia long ago, Mr Krudd made sure of that. Meaningless words, to paper over a huge festering boil.

  8. H B Bear

    Ministerial responsibility was dead long before anyone had even heard of Covid. The only issue with Andrews is one of degree. Andrews and the Red Shirts affair was already public knowledge when he was re-elected with an increased majority. Victoriastanis got what they deserved. F*ck ‘em.

    I don’t give a sh1t whether you did/didn’t vote for Chairman Dan. Democracy has never worked like that.

  9. cuckoo

    It also used to be a long-standing tradition that you didn’t impose a curfew on a civilian population without an overwhelming public health or public order necessity.

  10. flyingduk

    The Victorian Government has presided over the greatest governance failure in history. The consequences of those failings are so great and so profound that the Victorian economy has effectively been destroyed and recovery will be beyond most persons’ lifespans

    It wasn’t confined to Victoria and didn’t start with COVID. Governments of all stripes, in both Australia and the West generally, have spent the last 50 years training their populations to be dependent on government for everything: income, safety, health care, retirement funds etc etc etc, and the people have readily accepted their infantilisation.

    Then came COVID and it was more of the same, on steroids. Few were prepared for hard times and most accepted their chains readily, provided they kept getting their government cheese for staying at home and playing video games.

    Sadly, the idea that the government could shut down the economy for months without thought for the economic consequences, and that printing money could replace the lost productivity and income, can never work. We are burning the furniture (printing money) for the illusion of heat. The economy, already badly damaged, has been dealt a fatal blow. The future of our children has been burned to eke out a few more months of life for their demented grandparents.

  11. Peter

    I found his statement to the Quarantine Enquiry, yesterday, sickening. It was carefully crafted and self serving statement, where he thanked all involved in the enquiry for their work, and apologised for events for which he took no responsibility. Andrews plays four parts here. One he is the author of the enquiry, two he is the subject of the enquiry, three he is the receiver of the enquiries report, four he is then responsible for implementing and solutions. It is a farce, and ultimately a corrupt process, where all of his ministers and public servants including himself denied any knowledge of what they did, these people people should be subject to criminal prosecution. The crime is not their gross incompetence, but their absolute dishonesty about everything. They are the foulest of governments.

  12. TPL001

    Good response flyingduck. This is just another step along the road to centralism or statism.

    A Royal Commission is required at a national level that will investigate all aspects of the performance of the quarantine, across the states.

    Something like this is important, not only to at least judicially hold them to account to the rule of law, but so that it, for one, will slow down Premier Daniel Andrews next potential move, which cold be to resign, for XYZ reason, and then re-emerge as the leader of the federal parliamentary Labor party!

  13. Rafiki

    Is it that fundamental principles of our constitutional system (using that term broadly) are now subverted because very large numbers of the electorate do not understand – or if they do, do not value – those principles?

    If so, this is not simply down to the ethnic voting herds. Children of all stripes are no longer educated in a way that would give them an understanding. Indeed, the contrary is the case.

  14. NuThink

    Ministerial responsibility has been replaced over the years by Ministerial irresponsibility.

    Ministerial irresponsibility is the new Vic speak.

  15. H B Bear

    Indeed Rafiki – unless there is an electoral consequence from failing to follow established practice (and there isn’t) you can kiss it (and good government) goodbye. Most cud-chewing, Sunrise viewing voters (and j’ismists) wouldn’t recognise the concept if it bit them on the arse.

  16. mem

    Peter
    #3597747, posted on September 26, 2020 at 9:00 am
    I found his statement to the Quarantine Enquiry, yesterday, sickening. It was carefully crafted and self serving statement, where he thanked all involved in the enquiry for their work, and apologised for events for which he took no responsibility. Andrews plays four parts here. One he is the author of the enquiry, two he is the subject of the enquiry, three he is the receiver of the enquiries report, four he is then responsible for implementing and solutions. It is a farce, and ultimately a corrupt process, where all of his ministers and public servants including himself denied any knowledge of what they did, these people people should be subject to criminal prosecution. The crime is not their gross incompetence, but their absolute dishonesty about everything. They are the foulest of governments.

    Your identification of the four parts played by Andrews is excellent. After watching the inquiry my thought was that the only decision he takes responsibility for is setting up the Inquiry which in his bent mind will demonstrate his innocence and allow him to get on with his important work of remodeling this state to his leftist agenda. He has to be stopped as this tragedy is still in play as long as he is power.

  17. stackja

    Health Minister Jenny Mikakos has resigned from parliament
    Victoria’s Health Minister Jenny Mikakos has resigned effective immediately. She said she was sorry for the situation Victoria was in but didn’t believe her actions led to it.

    Herald Sun
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    September 26, 2020 9:54am

  18. tombell

    sure – Mad Dan and his government are a disgrace. Egregiously so. But lack of accountability is scarcely confined to one side of the aisle. French submarines anyone?

  19. TPL001

    It was expected, Mikakos has gone – fallen on her sword for the cause: https://twitter.com/JennyMikakos.

    That just means that the Dan and co. show trundles on.

  20. Delta

    E.J. at 9.03am
    Precisely, and thanks to the link to Michael Smith News (your link didn’t work so here it is again) – of course there must have been a contract, and of course the contract had to be written and issued for tender and of course there would be an approval process for those actions as well as opening, reviewing and recommending a successful tender. Then there would be the final approval to let the tender and at a sign-off tender valued at about $30 million, that approval would not fall far (if at all) down the delegation authority tree.

    For Andrew and his ministers to plead ignorance is just breathtaking BS. Now a few questions can be framed: Who in the Victorian Department of Jobs, Precincts and Regions (DJPR) framed Contract #555592, who evaluated the tenders, who let the tender and who initiated and approved the whole process? And which Minister was responsible?

    And here was I thinking this may be simple – then I looked for this magnificently named Dept and here is their organisational chart. Holy crap – it’s a Department responsible to no single minister. I quickly scanned a few of their pages starting here to find they supposedly support six different ministers! Hmm – anyway their organisational chart has a Delivery and Recovery from COVID group headed by a Deputy Secretary with a swag of Executive Directors reporting to him. You can find the Deputy Secretary on LinkedIn which shows that he moved into his current position in DJPR from the Dept of Premier and Cabinet 1 year and 9 months ago. He’d be a good starting point for some questions as well as the DJPR Secretary.

    Oh wait – for sure, no-one knows what happened!

  21. H B Bear

    Mikakos gone. Clearly Chairman Dan thinks he can survive.

  22. WolfmanOz

    Mikakos was always going to be the sacrificial lamb – but it’s not nearly enough.

  23. old bloke

    It has been a long tradition in a Parliamentary democracy that the responsibility for governance failure falls with the relevant minister or ministers and for gross governance failures with the Prime Minister or Premier.

    In New South Wales, Premier Barry O’Farrell resigns over a bottle of wine not declared, in Victoria, Premier Dan Andrews gets a medal for his gross negligence which killed ~750 people.

  24. Papachango

    So will Mikakos sing like a canary or was there a deal done for her to be the fall girl so the rest of these incompetent idiots get no consequences??

  25. Colonel Bunty Golightly

    How is it that these lying pieces of human offal are accorded any sort of acknowledgement or respect. They should be disposed with immediately.

  26. John Comnenus

    The inquiry into Vic hotel quarantine is a sham and a fraud on the tax payer. We know this because Michael Smith has the signature page of the Unified Contract. So there is a known starting point – the Vic Gov signatory. Questioning should be pretty simple – something like this:

    Q1. Did you sign this contract for $30 mil

    VPS A. Yes

    Q2. Is $30 mil within you delegation?

    VPS A. No

    Q3. Which delegate approved the contract?

    The answer to this question will establish who approved the money to spend ie who is responsible. My guess is that it will be the minister but may be not.

    If the minister then ask why he approved the procurement

    If a senior public servant ask if he briefed the minister.

    In the end this ends up with Pakula as the Minister who spent the money. He needs to explain why he spent the money. It’s not rocket science. But it is apparently beyond the Inquiry to start from a known and then trace the approvals process up the chain of command.

    The inquiry is a fraud.

  27. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    One down, about twenty still to go …

  28. I just found out that this ‘inquiry’ is not the same as a Royal Commission, in that you can get away with lying. That is exactly why Chairman Dan called for it, because it doesn’t have the same impact as a Royal Commission. What is worse is that the media will cover for Labor at every possible turn.

  29. Up The Workers!

    Jenny Mikakos has resigned from Dodgy Dan’s Cabinet of veteran ‘buck passers’, saying: “The Buck Stops Here”.

    It is a bit like the person with a very sore bum, sitting flat on the ground, amidst a circle of chair-seated people and belatedly admitting that they didn’t quite win the “Musical Chairs” contest.

    Apart from the first $441,000.00 bucks per annum that we actually know of (which alone makes him the absolutely highest-paid Premier this side of a set of prison doors even before accounting for donations from the C.F.M.M.E.U., Richmond White-Powder Commodity-dealers and Xi JinPing and the Wuhan Bat Soup and Toad Initiative), no bucks at all stop with Deadly Dan from the Chi-Com Lepers’ Party.

    Ignorance is NO excuse…it’s an advanced Leftard Mismanagement Technique!

    What an awesome boss – he always stands right behind his staff and Ministers – ready to drop them in the poo and then run off in the opposite direction.

    He is more the Benjamin Arnold type than the Harry S. Truman type.

  30. Papachango

    Did the inquiry review the procurement process and interrogate those involved? You know things like:

    -Was there a formal tender process, and if so who evaluated, who recommended and who approved?

    -Unified security is an Indigenous supplier but not Victorian and not on Vic Govts preferred panel – so only 1 out of 3 procurement tickboxes met.

    -They had an annual revenue for $3.5m p.a. and were awarded a contract worth $30M over 3 months – did anyone think to ask them about their capacity to provide appropriately trained personnel?

    etc etc?

  31. Robbo

    Mikakos has quit. Not before time but it is a pity that the lying bastard of a Premier did not also resign. How he can sleep at night is a mystery to me because yesterday I watched him swear on the Bible to tell the truth to the soft cock enquiry he set up and blatantly lie in his answers to the weak excuse of a cross examination he faced. What a disgusting parody of justice was that charade.
    We need a Royal Commission into this disgrace that has cost lives and livelihoods of thousands and the freedoms of every Victorian and if we have to wait until after the next election for a new government then that should be the absolute first item of business on their agenda. Michael O’Brien announce that as a promise right now.

  32. John Comnenus

    The inquiry head is Jennifer Coate who was probably initially appointed as a magistrate by the ALPs Jim Kennan (Wikipedia says she was appointed in 1992 and Kennan was AG til Oct re0aced by a Lib Jan Wade). Vic Coroner by Rob Hulls – the great Left Wing bench stacker extraordinare. She was elevated to the Federal bench after Gillard nominated her. Her background is in legal aid and academia and a fan of Koori courts and restorative justice. I’m sure she doesn’t need to be told how to find. As Sir Humphrey Appleby would say she is Sound!

  33. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “The Victorian Government has presided over the greatest governance failure in history.

    Dan Andrews and his entire Cabinet should immediately resign both from the Ministry but also from Parliament. They should count themselves lucky not to be locked up …”

    The only thing missing from this pointless outburst is stomping into your room and slamming the door behind you.

  34. min

    On the 29th March , unified Security started as security for hotel quarantine , this was announced by Pakula and Mikakos in joint interview next day although company name not mentioned. Unified was not registered in Victoria nor in fact a Victorian company and had been bankrupted twice . Contract from 29th March to 6th June for $10million was signed (redacted) in April ,executed on behalf of State of Victoria .
    There did not appear to be in the list of designated duties , or protocols for infection control training or who supplied equipment for such. Contract came from Pakula’s department.

  35. Arky

    TPL001
    #3597838, posted on September 26, 2020 at 10:00 am
    It was expected, Mikakos has gone – fallen on her sword for the cause:

    ..
    She’s not happy and is giving Dan a kicking on the way out.
    It’s started.
    They are turning on each other.
    Dan is on limited time. Won’t make it to the election.

  36. Perfidious Albino

    Andrews will now argue that any Commonwealth Royal Commission or Inquiry is ‘politically motivated’ because we’ve already had an inquiry.

  37. Boambee John

    He is more the Benjamin Arnold type than the Harry S. Truman type.

    Benedict Arnold.

  38. Leigh Lowe

    Remember when ministers resigned over failing to declare a Paddington Bear or a TV set on their customs form?
    Or not putting a bottle of wine on a register of gifts?
    Under Dan Xi-Man the death toll has to reach 700 before you are left alone in the library with a revolver.

  39. Leigh Lowe

    In my view Mikakos owns contact tracing and Pakula owns hotel quarantine.
    And Andrews owns both of them.

  40. Rob MW

    Health Minister Jenny Mikakos has resigned from parliament
    Victoria’s Health Minister Jenny Mikakos has resigned effective immediately. She said she was sorry for the situation Victoria was in but didn’t believe her actions led to it.

    Not good enough. Who unleashed the Andrews government’s state militia/dogs who declared war on the innocent ? Who ordered the troops in ? Who were the soldiers that participated in persecuting the innocent ? And lastly; Who ordered the invasion of privacy upon the innocent that led to the state militia trespassing, assaulting and stealing from private homes ?

    Shaming these a**holes is not enough, they should have their jobs, their homes and any other financial asset taken from them.

  41. Another Ian

    Cartoon at

    https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2020/09/johannes-leak-nails-andrews-.html

    I doubt Do Pi will be a fan of Michael Smith in general this morning either – check current threads

  42. Papachango

    She’s not happy and is giving Dan a kicking on the way out.

    Where do you get that impression? I reckon some backroom deals have been done, she will shut the F up and get a nice little lucrative sinecure when the dust has settled…

  43. Roberto

    You might as well go back to your plough Cincinnatus. You’ll be waiting a long time for any acceptance of responsibility by the Dear Leader.

  44. Professor Fred Lenin

    Polliemuppets never resign for their mistakes , no matter what , sometimes they spew some platitudes disguised as an apology . The reasons theydont apoligise and resign is simple ,where in the name of Godwould theseuseless lying muppets get a job like the one they have ? The lawyers amongst them would be lucky to get job in a conveyencing firm and the teachers vice proncipal of a tiny country school , as for the union and political hacks jobseeker would be their fate for life . Perhaps we should have a test for stupidity for all intending politicians and public employees ,private companies do ,thats whu]y they rarely make mistakes .

  45. PB

    “Andrews and the Red Shirts affair was already public knowledge when he was re-elected with an increased majority.”

    The Red Shirt affair was where he learned that the luvvie media wouldn’t hold him to account. All this flows from the empowerment he drew from that. The media that chose not to demand a minimum standard from him then because of personal political loyalties owns the Victorian COVID fiasco equally with him and his sorry band of hucksters and incompetents.

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