Open Forum: September 26, 2020

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  1. Steve trickler

    Front Row seats. This just dropped minutes ago.



  2. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Turd time’s t’ charm.

  3. Headline for a Grace Kelly article in Oz. Will be interested to read it in full tomorrow. But yep, all the Liberals fault !

    “For those agitated by the reign of Daniel Andrews, don’t blame the Victorian people. Instead, blame the Victorian Liberal party”

  4. Megan

    Sliding home into fifth place. Good morningvqll!

  5. Leigh Lowe #3597369, posted on September 25, 2020 at 7:38 pm

    Yesterday … “Wait for the enquiry.”
    Today … “I can’t remember.”
    Tomorrow … “I refer you to the evidence I gave at the enquiry

    Actually, I saw it pointed out that tomorrow’s more likely to be: … Wait for the enquiry’s report.

  6. Rossini

    Good win by Souths Friday night.
    Even though Easts were resting a few players.

  7. Rossini

    Bloody cold in Melbourne this morning.

  8. JD

    The next SCOTUS? What an amazing woman.

  9. Rabbi Putin

    Italy has voted to reduce the membership of its lower house from 630 down to 400. An opinion piece on the matter from a charming fellow who writes at Takinag called Jorje Montoyo

  10. Zatara:
    It certainly looks bad, but what is worse is that the wukkas are aware there is something shifty happening as they try to cover up the evidence.
    We shall see what happens – a pity he didn’t grab a handful.

  11. Firstborn’s column – Sydney’s Daily Telegraph

    Time to get out now
    Vikki Campion

    If the Nats were your best friend you’d be telling them to run a mile from the Libs

    Only in Australian politics are you expected to remain in a toxic relationship that resides somewhere between manipulative and dysfunctional. If the National Party was your best friend, you would be telling her to run a mile from the Liberals.

    The Nats are like a gaslighted wife given $100 to do the family groceries by a husband who expects gratitude and a cooked lunch on his way to play golf. When she complains and tries to leave, she is told she is an evil homewrecker.

    Just this week, the Liberals stole a seat from the Nats forever.

    Port Macquarie has become the only Liberal seat in the nation where not a single soul voted Liberal – not even the nine Liberal branch members.

    If former Nationals MP Leslie Williams has the courage of her conviction, she should call a by-election and see how well she does against the Nationals candidate when she has only nine volunteers.

    In NSW cabinet there are 23 ministers – just seven are Nats (and it could drop to six), while in federal cabinet there are 23 ministers and only four Nats.

    Before politics, the Nationals ministers were teachers, tradies, local journos or small business people, but the controlling senior Libs in NSW cut their teeth on, well, politics.

    If every National disagrees with a policy, they are woefully outnumbered by Machiavellian career politicians with no voices of reason to back them in.

    Staffers-turned-ministers such as Environment Minister Matt Kean control the ideology and that’s why reasonable voices aren’t being heard.

    It’s not left versus right or progressive versus conservative, it’s the career politician versus the local champion. Political animals know how to get the outcome they desire because they have been around the houses for 20 years.

    When they lose on policy they go straight for personal attack, because that’s all they know.

    When Nationals seats were under threat by the Shooters, the Liberals sitting in the largest, best-funded and most strategic campaign infrastructure chose not to help.

    While they are happy to play dressups as five-minute Henry Lawsons in big crisp hats and shiny boots on the odd regional excursion, they watched as Barwon and Murray were lost.

    When the Liberals do help, it is former PM John Howard himself who comes to regional towns.

    Senior Labor and Liberal stalwarts can’t understand why the Nationals allow themselves to be treated like doormats.

    As regional Labor MP Joel Fitzgibbon tells the parliament, the callousedhanded, hard-headed leaders of the Nationals such as Black Jack McEwen would roll in their graves to see how their party has capitulated.

    Mark Coulton, the federal Regional Communications Minister, does not have sign-off for Sky Muster or fixed wireless internet, the rural and regional part of the NBN – a major part of regional communications.

    The reason Barnaby Joyce often sounds like he is interrupting on Sunrise is due to the delay between him speaking and his voice hitting your television. That’s how long it takes for it to get to the Sky Muster satellite 36,000km above the Earth.

    For kids trying to study in towns with a population under 2000, where the internet is shockingly slow and unpredictable, exams are extra anxietyinducing because at any time the net can and does inexplicably drop out. So do wi-fi phone calls, and there’s no mobile tower to turn to when it happens.

    Wednesday’s $3.5 billion fast NBN upgrade will benefit Sydney and Melbourne and 85 regional CBD’s such as Rockhampton and Armidale that already had internet – but does nothing for the sweeping plains across the rest of the country.

    If that is the oversight the Nationals have over portfolios they do hold, then imagine the influence they have over the ones they don’t.

    Presently, they can only tinker with legislation within their own narrow portfolio spectrum.

    If they were on the crossbench, they wouldn’t just be sitting with Mark Latham in NSW or Jacqui Lambie and Bob Katter in the federal sphere, they would be holding the balance of power.

    They could change any piece of legislation they pleased, and demand their pound of flesh to do so.

    If a united Nationals did this they would be heard again and people would vote for them because they showed strength.

    They aren’t ripping the Coalition apart. It was over years ago.

    The right question should be why they go back at all. If they left, they could change our world.

    The goal should be walking back into their towns as the fighter, telling constituents they will no longer need to wait three weeks to see the doctor or drive four hours to Newcastle to see the dentist.

    They can start their own business because they will be able to make a phone call without it dropping out.

    They will be able to do study because they have a reliable internet connection.

    I used to think that it was better to have a seat at the table.

    Now I realise it’s better to determine what they are eating for dinner.

    If Leslie Williams has the courage of her conviction, she should call a by-election and see how well she does against the Nationals when she has only nine volunteers.

  12. Custard:
    The only reason the Nats stay in that relationship with the Libs is because somehow the people making the decisions see value for themselves in it. Note I said “value for themselves”, because there certainly isn’t value for the electorate or the National Party members.
    Just another facet of the moral bankruptcy of the political class in Australia.
    So what do we do when the system stops being reflective of societal values, and we cannot change it at the Ballot Box?

  13. custard

    Good article from Vicki Cardimona. Perhaps they should walk away.

  14. calli

    Rowe still ignoring all that’s going on here.

    Who exactly owns Rowe? Is he afraid to criticise them?

  15. Mak Siccar

    Forty-oneth!

    And a very ‘courageous’ correspondent.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/we-are-managing-the-pandemic-quite-well-so-stop-the-wild-shrieking/news-story/d9e9ec0745581710d6f8f1c20f6ef358

    We are managing the pandemic quite well, so stop the wild shrieking
    KATRINA GRACE KELLY

    12:00AM SEPTEMBER 26, 2020 11COMMENTS

    We live in incredible times, but still, it has been extraordinarily disappointing to witness how political ideology has guided reactions to a health crisis. Hypocrisy is rife.

    Take for instance, the federal coalition government, who closed the national borders, lambasting the Labor state governments (but not the Liberal ones) for closing theirs.

    Consider too, the about face of those were most opposed to Victoria’s voluntary assisted dying laws, when introduced. Back then, every life was sacred, no matter how old or sick the person. This meant people facing an imminent and agonising death should not be allowed to bring it forward, and end their own lives, painlessly, at a time of their choosing.

    Now, these same types demand various governments abandon restrictions and lockdowns because after all, only the old or the sick will die, and they were on their way out anyway. Suddenly, every life is not so sacred, after all.

    For months now, there has been vociferous criticism of governments, in particular, of Victoria’s, but the data is in. Across the world, voters expect their leaders to keep them safe, specifically, to prioritise human life over a balance sheet. Perhaps this is because we have all seen economies recover, but none of us have seen a person raised from the dead.

    The Pew Research Center recently asked citizens of various countries whether their country has done a good or bad job handling COVID-19. The countries that marked their governments with the highest “good” score were Denmark at 95 per cent, Australia at 94 per cent, Canada and Germany at 88 per cent, Netherlands at 87 per cent and South Korea at 86 per cent. The highest “bad” scores came from Britain, at 54 per cent and the US at 52 per cent.

    Closer to home, the results of a Newspoll for The Australian showed that despite the terrible mistakes made with hotel quarantine, and the cruelty of lockdowns, 62 per cent of Victorian voters are satisfied with how their Premier is doing his job, and 61 per cent think the current lockdown restrictions are “about right”.

    This data rises above the chorus of remarks by federal coalition politicians, and hyperbolic and often inaccurate criticism from the angry tub-thumpers on SAD (Sky after Dark). On SAD, our Premier is called “Chairman Dan” or “Dictator Dan” and Victoria is referred to as a “socialist republic” and a “failed state”. These insults demean every Victorian, regardless of how they vote.

    For those agitated by the reign of Daniel Andrews, don’t blame the Victorian people. Instead, blame the Victorian Liberal party, and their federal counterparts, who cannot resist the temptation to try to help their dysfunctional state organisation, and so interfere, where they shouldn’t.

    For instance, at the last state election, the Victorian Liberal Party decided to run their campaign on a “back in control” mantra. To support this message, Victoria was cast as a state out of control, and so the campaign was based on crime.

    At the campaign launch in 2018, Opposition Leader Matthew Guy claimed there was a “law and order crisis”, and said that under Andrews, “Victoria has won the unenviable title as the state with the country’s highest rate of crime”.

    Despite some well publicised and terrifying incidents, this claim came as a shock to Victorians. The state was being run well, and the economy was booming.

    Plus, the Economist Intelligence Unit had just awarded Melbourne the title of the world’s most liveable city, for the seventh year in a row. Yet we were suddenly expected to believe our city was in chaos.

    At the time, The Conversation Fact checker complied national crime statistics, the latest being for the year 2016-2017.

    Whether it came to physical and sexual assault, robbery, break-ins, or malicious property crime, including motor vehicle theft, theft from a motor vehicle, or murder and homicide, Victoria did not once top any of the categories, and mostly remained in about the middle of all states.

    Both our lived experience and the data proved Guy’s claim to be wildly inaccurate. Yet from this point on, Victorians were subject to ongoing national focus, where people who didn’t live here unfairly cast us as having a rampant crime problem and living in a state with a Mad Max style lawlessness.

    The Liberal crime campaign shredded Victoria’s reputation. It was ridiculous and humiliating, and voters retaliated. The result was a landslide, a statewide swing of 6 per cent to Labor, and double digit swings to Labor in Melbourne’s Liberal voting leafy east. This represented an increase of eight seats for Labor, leading to a 10 seat majority.

    Throughout this pandemic, the Victorian Liberals and their supporting cohort have been identified by their shrill tones and exaggerated claims. Once again, they paint Victoria as a terrible place, where people are held captive by a deranged power hungry despot.

    Fundamental inaccuracies must not go unchallenged. For example, as ABC fact checking service points out, prior to the pandemic, Victoria was the only state where its citizens enjoyed protection from the power of government, specifically, we had a 12 month limit on the government’s power to manage a severe public health risk.

    This meant the limit had to be extended in parliament, yet the furore that ensued overlooked basic legal facts. No other leader of any other government, either federal, state or territory, had to go to their parliament to extend their powers, because they already had them. NSW for example, is the only state where the Premier can activate their powers without even declaring a state of emergency.

    It is regrettable that once again, Victorians find themselves subject to intense national examination, unrelenting and often inaccurate criticism and demeaning commentary. No one likes to be told by interstate commentators that they live in a shit hole, and people cannot be berated into voting a certain way — in fact, attempts can be counter-productive. Despite the scalding experience that proved this just two years ago, lessons have not been learnt. Consequently, at the next election, history might repeat.

  16. calli

    Now, these same types demand various governments abandon restrictions and lockdowns because after all, only the old or the sick will die, and they were on their way out anyway. Suddenly, every life is not so sacred, after all.

    What an intellectually dishonest statement.

  17. They don’t care if they get sued anymore.

    The Age: A warrior culture and the murders that followed: What went wrong with the SAS.

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/a-warrior-culture-and-the-murders-that-followed-what-went-wrong-with-the-sas-20200924-p55yxd.html

    If there is plenty of evidence, it did not need a four year, secret military court to find it.

  18. 1735099

    What an intellectually dishonest statement

    It’s called “hitting the nail on the head”.
    It’s rare to see honesty published here.

  19. Mater

    Now, these same types demand various governments abandon restrictions and lockdowns because after all, only the old or the sick will die, and they were on their way out anyway. Suddenly, every life is not so sacred, after all.

    If saving lives trumps freedoms, Australia would never have gone to war. We would have surrendered at the first sign of aggression. “If it saves just one life, no cost is too high!”

    We were happy to sacrifice tens of thousands of young men and women to preserve freedom…once upon a time.

  20. Bruce of Newcastle

    I was amused by a story in the Express this morning:

    Steph McGovern dealt crushing blow as new Channel 4 show records 0 viewers (25 Sep)

    To work out this mystery you can either search for who Steph is, or just read the comments which are fun. Yep you guessed it: she’s woke. A boring ex-BBC lefty wymminse with a girlfriend and a baby born somehow without any apparent male input…

  21. Mater

    What an intellectually dishonest statement

    It’s called “hitting the nail on the head”.
    It’s rare to see honesty published here.

    Speaking of dishonest. He appears.

  22. Wow, Kelly’s article does not mention hotel quarantine fiasco at all ! Nothing to see there. All hail Premier Dan. She mentioned the booming economy but nothing about the rising debt. High praise for law and order despite VICPOL justifiably being considered the most poltical police in Oz. Pell, Lawyer X, nothing to see investigation into Labor staffers, arresting for FB posts etc.

    Great article about the Nationals.

  23. custard

    The rest of that article is either naive or totally dishonest Calli. Not surprised the Vietnam fuckwit jumped in to praise it.

  24. notafan

    Grace Kelly just demonstrating that like so many other she does not have a well formed conscience and an inability to think.

    It’s not an either or argument.

    Really another one thinking or not thinking , I’m going to write this really long column and demonstrate to all I can write words, lots of them, and say nothing that is useful or insightful.

  25. rickw

    Daily dose of Vietnam! Extended.

  26. notafan

    And did she get the SOE powers bit wrong?

    The limit was six months, now twelve thanks to the gang of three.

  27. notafan

    Funnily enough vicpol applauded themselves a couple of weeks ago after gang member arrests.

  28. Now at over 2500 comments at Daily Mail USA. Need more to speak out like this.

    Charles Barkley and Shaquille O’Neal have been criticized on social media after being accused of defending the Louisville police officers who killed Breonna Taylor and blaming the black EMT’s boyfriend for opening fire first.

    Barkley and O’Neal were discussing Taylor’s death and the decision not to indict any officers in her killing during the TNT pregame show ahead of the Los Angeles Lakers vs Denver Nuggets game on Thursday.

    Barkley argued that Taylor’s death couldn’t be compared to the police killing of black man George Floyd because Taylor’s boyfriend Kenneth Walker first fired a shot at officers when they entered her apartment with a ‘no knock’ warrant.

    ‘I don’t think this one was like George Floyd or Ahmaud Arbery and things like that,’ Barkley said.

    ‘I feel sad that this young lady lost her life. I think the no-knock warrant is something we need to get rid of across the board. But we do have to take into account that her boyfriend shot at the cops and shot a cop.’

    O’Neal agreed and argued the officers involved were simply ‘doing their job’ on a warrant signed by a judge.

    He also said that he believed the system needed to change.

  29. notafan

    Oh yes and were going to vote for Dan because Queenslanders said mean things..

    Much stupid.

    That’s definitely cutting off your nose to spite your face.

  30. calli

    It’s a worthwhile exercise to compare and contrast Coney Barrett’s lecture on impartiality and Kelly’s “take” on Victoria’s lockdowns.

  31. Cassie of Sydney

    “Mater
    #3597622, posted on September 26, 2020 at 7:11 am

    Speaking of dishonest. He appears.”

    Yes…I couldn’t help notice that the racist was rather quiet yesterday after being called out for using his dead baby for cheap political point scoring.

  32. rickw

    China Uncensored, 12:12, Trump laying the boots into the Chicoms and WHO:

  33. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I have never told a lie on this blog.’

  34. I have never made a double entendre on this scrofulous blog.

  35. rickw

    ‘I feel sad that this young lady lost her life. I think the no-knock warrant is something we need to get rid of across the board. But we do have to take into account that her boyfriend shot at the cops and shot a cop.’

    Apparently the one thing that everyone agrees on, including Walker, is that the Police did in fact knock, despite having a no knock warrant. Taylor also shouldn’t be referred to as an EMT, she got fired from that job after a body was found in the trunk of a rental car she had hired.

  36. rickw

    Salt Cracker, 8:04, Harry would prefer to be getting an anesthetic free filling:

  37. It will be interesting to see military cats views on Ch 9/Our ABC’S finest’s latest sludge about the SAS.

  38. yarpos

    I was reading today abut how the lefties inside Spotify now want to add trigger warnings and “fact” checking to his podcasts, which are just two people chatting, not tutorials or reference material.

    Its amazing how the Left wants to control everything everywhere, yet is so uniformly incompetent when it gains power. Victoria, Queensland, SA under Weatherdill, assorted Labor PMs, California, New York and the roll call of failing Dem cities across the US. That they continue to draw votes is an indication to me that the centre of the IQ bell curve is much lower than it’s theorised it to be.

  39. Knuckle Dragger

    LS’ link, just now:

    ‘The killings breach the rules of war and Australia’s criminal code.’

    Question, for the two apparently-award-winning people that wrote this.

    What, exactly, is ‘Australia’s criminal code’? Surely this couldn’t have been the 2016 amendments to the Commonwealth Criminal Code Act 1995. Or is it?

    It’s unnecessary dumbing-down for the punters. Unless the target audience is the current selection of elderly communists and doe-eyed yoof, whose experience of hard times is limited to a temporary TikTok outage once.

    AND – if the Army Reserve General’s Enquiry Into Real Soldiers was four years or more in the making, and all those statements were made about no predetermined outcomes when it kicked off, why was the Bill for these amendments introduced? And assented to? Four years ago?

  40. Anne

    Westpac fined $1.3 Billion for Money Laundering and Child Exploitation.

    Westpac has agreed to pay a record penalty of $1.3bn to settle legal action over money laundering and child exploitation allegations levelled against it by the financial intelligence agency, Austrac.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/sep/24/westpac-record-13bn-fine-money-laundering-and-child-exploitation-investigation

    NB. “Money Laundering and Child Exploitation” is a euphemism for ChildSexTrafficking.

  41. Cassie of Sydney

    “That they continue to draw votes is an indication to me that the centre of the IQ bell curve is much lower than it’s theorised it to be.

    Yep.

  42. mh

    Who ordered the private security – explained

  43. Anne

    You probably heard that Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s personal trainer did 3 pushups before her coffin.

    https://twitter.com/sirwilliamscot5/status/1309606437681868801?s=21

  44. calli

    Adding to the rapidly degrading, stale, pale notion of impartiality, the “skin folk not kin folk” slur being bandied about – this time at black Kentucky AG Daniel Cameron.

    This is how you flatten your political enemies (who, according to CRT should be your allies), especially when they act according to the rule of law.

    He just isn’t black enough.

  45. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Apparently the one thing that everyone agrees on, including Walker, is that the Police did in fact knock, despite having a no knock warrant.’

    Dunno about the US, but ‘ere in Straya knocking or not knocking is either a matter of policy, dependent on the type of warrant to be executed or at the discretion of the men on the ground at the time.

    Why you would knock on the door of a joint when there’s a dude inside highly likely to start shooting at you when he works out you’re the cops escapes me.

    Allegedly and apparently, you go through the front door, or the side or back door, or a window in ‘dynamic’ fashion, ie quickly and loudly. Make everyone inside shits themselves and be all over them like fat kids on lamingtons before they either get rid of stuff you want, or can grab stuff to kill you with.

    Only when the entire joint’s clear, everyone in it’s on the deck and secured do you take a breath and start gathering what you need. Anything else is just stupid and asking for trouble.

    Disclaimer – not applicable for pyjama-clad bogan mummy bloggers from the ‘Rat.

  46. Ah yes Annie.

    The CEO pencils in each cashbook deposit of old jam jars of 2c pieces and pre decimal sixpence from the mothers of terrorists and child sex ring principals.

    He knows them personally too. He also gets off ISIS propaganda and vids of spirit cooking gone wrong cum snuff. In tunnels.

    Their annual report has done nice pics of the altars to Moloch, Adramalech, Baal and Satan too.

  47. feelthebern

    Ohhhhhh.
    The NRA raised $US1.7mill in August.
    Shows how the gun lobby spectre is such a fake story.

  48. Cassie of Sydney

    I make no comment about Daniel Andrews’s appearance at the hotel quarantine inquiry yesterday.

    But I have a personal message for Dan Andrews:

    I saw you.

    I heard you.

    I don’t believe you.

  49. mh

    The Age

    Study shows hidden spike in cardiac deaths
    Cardiac-arrest survival rates halved in Victoria during the first wave of the coronavirus pandemic as strict safety protocols delayed paramedics.

    Research led by Ambulance Victoria has found paramedics are taking an extra two minutes to arrive at the scene under strict coronavirus protocols, including putting on full personal protective equipment such as face masks, gloves and gowns, blowing out emergency response times.

    Before the COVID-19 pandemic, paramedics arrived within eight minutes of a triple zero call, but this has increased to 10 minutes, delaying the use of defibrillators to deliver lifesaving shocks to people in cardiac distress.

    The research shows soaring numbers of Victorians are going into cardiac arrest in their homes, and more people are dying at home or shortly after arrival at hospital

  50. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘NB. “Money Laundering and Child Exploitation” is a euphemism for ChildSexTrafficking.’

    NNB: “Anne” is a euphemism for “mental cat lady with all the eccentricities of Nicola Tesla but none of the genius or insight”.

    Is Gitmo full yet?

  51. feelthebern

    Westpac self reported.
    AUSTRAC did nothing.
    It was a software glitch.
    12 transactions were identified as dodgy.
    Out of over 2omillion.
    The 1.3billion agreed settlement will ensure zero self reporting going forward.

    Full disclosure, I have zero exposure to Westpac.

  52. Some fat hypertension world champion from the UK (and no doubt an acolyte if David Icke) spouted that TEN MILLION CHILLUNS have been SAVED FROM THE TUNNELS in AUSTRALIA.

    Yeeeeaaahhhhh….

    Where are the bloody indictments!?

  53. Bruce of Newcastle

    He just isn’t black enough.

    Yep.

    Tamika Mallory: Daniel Cameron ‘no different than the sellout negroes that sold our people’ (25 Sep)

    Women’s March co-founder Tamika Mallory on Friday smeared Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron as no different than “the sellout negroes” who sold their ancestors into slavery.

    Speaking at a press conference held by Benjamin Crump, an attorney representing the family of Breonna Taylor, Ms. Mallory slammed Mr. Cameron, a Black Republican, as being complicit in White supremacy following his announcement Wednesday that a Jefferson County grand jury declined to indict any of the three Louisville police officers in the March fatal shooting of Taylor.

    As Joe Biden said “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black,”.

  54. feelthebern

    Daniel Cameron.
    Will be around for a long time.

  55. calli

    And while we’re on the subject of quality journalism, looks like Aunty has the work experience kiddies writing the headers for Just In.

    Sure most COVID-19 cases are mild, but some people are sick for the months

    Cats take more trouble over their wine reviews.

  56. Knuckle Dragger

    The Mailman and the Shaq Attack. Skinfolk, not kinfolk apparently.

    Uncle Toms no doubt. They’ll be regarded with the same disdain as the regional, rural and remote indig in the NT that dance to bastard whitey’s tune by doing things like, oh I dunno, getting a job.

  57. Ah yes

    Hearing about that dog that was sick for the months really hit me in the feels, fam.

    How long have you been married?

    For the years, fam.

    How did your team go?

    Oh we kicked more goals than the other team and we won 4-1. We kicked all the goals, fam.

  58. Zatara

    Next time you wonder how many silent Trump supporters there may be consider this:

    Biden Supporters Reportedly Attack, Burn Down Part of Pro-Trump Families Home in Minnesota

    Vehicles/garage burned down and house set afire over Trump sign in the yard. Two young children, mum and dad in house.

    Authorities: “This fire is considered suspicious”

    Well no shit Sherlock.

  59. Steve trickler

    2017 – 2018. Tokyo. It’s a good walk.



  60. Knuckle Dragger

    Gunner!

    Huawei HQ burning down! The Black Ops boys brought it on home!

    U-S-A! (Straya!)
    U-S-A! (Straya!)
    U-S-A! (Straya!)

  61. mh

    Westpac self reported.
    AUSTRAC did nothing.

    I heard a lot of praise for AUSTRAC this week.

  62. A Chinese made junction box that uses old style, inductor based autotransfotmers over the new 4 way bridge diode rectifier designs, catching alight, is not suspicious at all.

    Truth be told, it is more of an inevitably.

  63. feelthebern

    Fun fact.
    AUSTRAC has never actually dug anything dodgy up with any bank, ever.
    Everything has been self reported.
    Or in the case of CommBank, a competitor HSBC, dobbed them in.

  64. notafan

    Some people

    The 95 year old gentleman was hospitalized at Maroondah for ten weeks.

    Good example?

    They did mean sick enough to be hospital for the months, didn’t they?

  65. feelthebern

    I heard a lot of praise for AUSTRAC this week.

    Low info retards.

  66. Des Deskperson

    The Wynn Prize is the landscape painting equivalent the Archibalds.

    The 2020 prize was won by a Proud Aranda Man

    https://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au/prizes/wynne/2020/

    It’s a ripoff of Albert Namatjira c. 1955. Technically competent maybe, but derivative, unoriginal and safe. The Art gallery of NSW has gone full identitarian.

  67. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Low info retards.’

    But enough about Liability Bob.

  68. The Black Ops boys brought it on home!

    Damn straight!
    👍👍👍

  69. calli

    As a Proud Cabramatta Woman, I fully expect my work to take out First Prize at next year’s SQS.

    If it doesn’t I will accuse the judges of Institutional Proudism.

  70. feelthebern

    I used to enjoy the Weekend Oz.
    Used to have some at least of couple of very good reads every weekend.
    Versus the weekend AFR which I can knock over in 5mins because it’s all filler.
    The Weekend Oz is now just boring, cliche crapola.

  71. If that was some James Bond shit, I hope we get some bodycam footage. Overlay it with gameplay audio off of Goldeneye 64.

    …and Frank Cervi to ghostwriter the salacious details of the 14 gweilo days in CHAI-NERR beforehand.

  72. Cassie of Sydney

    “The Weekend Oz is now just boring, cliche crapola.”

    Yep..and particularly the Weekend Magazine…I only read the magazine to read David Herbert’s excellent recipes. I note that today’s magazine has a piece on that ghastly attention seeking mediocrity….Ronni Khan.

  73. Mak Siccar

    mh
    #3597648, posted on September 26, 2020 at 7:45 am
    Mak Siccar – troll?

    No, definitely not.

  74. thefrollickingmole

    Ribbi putins article is a nice read.

    The wise Taoist Lao Tse recommended 2,500 years ago something perfectly valid today: “Imperceptible government, happy people; solicitous government, unhappy people.” But with time his countrymen forgot the wise advice and decided to join the bloody revolution, and today in China they are absolutely dependent on a very solicitous communist government.

  75. Cassie of Sydney

    Kahn…not Khan! LOL. She’s no relation to Imran.

  76. Cassie of Sydney

    Cold day in Sydney.

  77. Steve trickler

    Another good walk in Tokyo. 👀 Impressive work with the camera.



  78. A secret inquiry into two decades old war crimes…a four year investigation and no indictments or arrests but a lot of urinalism from the usual Wankley “winners”.

    Like Big Lesley Mackerel would say

    HMMMMMMMMM…….

  79. vr

    Well, looks like ACB that will be nominated to the US Supreme Court.

  80. calli

    Mak, the scare quotes gave it away.

    Sometimes there just aren’t enough /sarc tags. 🙂🍿

  81. Lao Tzu’s philosophy is compatible with libertarianism and Catholic (orthodox) Christianity.

    In other words, very good!

  82. Taibbi hacks worse than a lung cancer patient.

  83. feelthebern

    Lao Tzu was just another Stoic.
    No harm in that.

  84. Knuckle Dragger

    As Big Lez also said after a big win at the pokies:

    ‘Daddy’s got the fuckin’ sugar now!’

    Looking forward to the next SF tour of Choomah Island.

  85. feelthebern

    I can’t listen to Taibbi talk.
    Drives me mental.
    But I can read his stuff until the cows come home.

    The opposite of Gore Vidal.
    Reading he stuff does nothing for me.
    Listening to him narrate it.
    That’s good shit.

  86. mem

    mh
    #3597654, posted on September 26, 2020 at 7:55 am
    Who ordered the private security – explained

    Now let’s see if the money trail will reveal who was most likely to have authorized/recommended this company
    https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2020/09/andrews-governments-30m-hotel-security-contract-with-australias-largest-indigenous-owned-security-pr.html

  87. feelthebern

    LOL.
    Describing Gore Vidal’s work as good shit would have the old fruit rolling in his grave.

  88. mh

    Found this headline from the ABC

    Peter Dutton praises Austrac for Westpac fine Video

    Watched the video and Dutton doesn’t mention AUSTRAC.

  89. feelthebern

    AUSTRAC said this week that after their success with the banks, they’re now going to target the non-banks.
    Question, shouldn’t their “targeting” be agnostic?
    Also, they didn’t target the banks, the banks self reported (or were dobbed in by competitors).

  90. mh

    Nice work if you can get it – but Unified Security Group (Australia) P/L wasn’t just any ordinary security company.

    For a start, it wasn’t Victorian.

    It wasn’t registered as a supplier to the Victorian Government.

    It had no history as a provider of these services to the Victorian government.

    It didn’t need to tender for this contract (it was handed out one Friday arvo maaaaate!)

    It didn’t need to demonstrate it had the staff and resources available to fulfil the contract.

    It has a colourful background of bankruptcies, disappearing Glock pistols, Lamborghinis and a boss who “lives in the most expensive house in Earlwood” (we’ll bring you more on the chequered history of Unified in another post).

    But for now here’s perhaps the most important thing about the company – so far as Daniel Andrews government was concerned.

    It’s indigenous!

  91. feelthebern

    If AUSTRAC thinks a non-bank is going to roll over & give them a chunk of shareholder capital, they’re in for a rude awakening.
    Also, AUSTRAC are a pack of retards.
    According the documents with Westpac’s self reporting, AUSTRAC had to be walked through so much of it because they didn’t understand it.
    Took AUSTRAC months to even acknowledge shit.
    Westpac had to keep calling them like a pensioner complaining at the returns counter at Best & Less.

  92. miltonf

    Does anyone at the ABC ever feel a twinge of shame that they are highly remunerated members of a marxist playgroup living off the hard work of tradies, retail workers and small/medium business owners trying to make an honest living?

  93. miltonf

    So many members of the marxist playgroup seem to get their positions through family connects. A bit like foreign affairies.

  94. Roger

    Does anyone at the ABC ever feel a twinge of shame that they are highly remunerated members of a marxist playgroup living off the hard work of tradies, retail workers and small/medium business owners trying to make an honest living?

    If they ever think of the latter, it’s only as “the deplorables”.

  95. Cassie of Sydney

    “miltonf
    #3597731, posted on September 26, 2020 at 8:47 am
    Does anyone at the ABC ever feel a twinge of shame”

    I doubt it very much. As with the racist here….they are incapable of shame.

  96. miltonf

    Yep true Roger- racist, red neck, uneducated. Like the normans versus the saxons really.

  97. Roger

    Like the normans versus the saxons really.

    Yes, good analogy.

  98. calli

    Now let’s see if the money trail will reveal who was most likely to have authorized/recommended this company

    Shame about the black Texta over the signatures.

  99. mh

    We are managing the pandemic quite well, so stop the wild shrieking
    KATRINA GRACE KELLY

    I’ve just realised who that is.
    She was known as Grace Collier when I used to see her on Paul Murray’s show.
    Very strange ‘lady’.


  100. These aren’t restrictions!

    These are!

    Suffocating Israel’s economy will carry a heavy price, and the infringement on the rights of Israeli citizens will be felt long after the virus is history

    Shades of Crocodile Dundee…

  101. Boambee John

    Zatara
    #3597593, posted on September 26, 2020 at 5:05 am
    More US mail voting fraud and abuse.

    California Man Finds THOUSANDS of What Appear to be Unopened Ballots in Garbage Dumpster — Workers Quickly Try to Cover Them Up

    But, but, but, this cannot be. Both m0nty and the bin chicken have assured us absolutely thar voting fraud is impossible, as also have the DNC and the US MSM (BIRM).

  102. rickw

    Mc Closky Christmas Cards:

  103. We were happy to sacrifice tens of thousands of young men and women to preserve freedom…once upon a time.

    And some of us were happy to sacrifice hundreds of young men, many of them conscripts, to preserve a Coalition government…once upon a time.
    Ever considered that the behaviour of the generation in question, and their offspring, might remember that in the context of government’s demands around the pandemic?
    What goes round comes round.

  104. notafan

    The priggy prog does love whatabouting.

    Especially if he can indulge his pet hate and his favourite hobby.

    Zero Christian charity in that one.

  105. notafan

    Don’t DVA provide counselling?

    For free.

    Go away and get professional help.

  106. Cassie of Sydney

    “vr
    #3597757, posted on September 26, 2020 at 9:14 am
    Andrew Neil is leaving the BBC. Their one unbiased journalist.

    https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1309547239514222592

    That’s one more than their ABC.

  107. cohenite

    rickw
    #3597646, posted on September 26, 2020 at 7:42 am
    Salt Cracker, 8:04, Harry would prefer to be getting an anesthetic free filling:

    One of his best; soy boy hazza and his husband markles. I must confess I was once one of the fools who believed hazza had testicles.

    And Custard mentioned it already but worth repeating; joe calls the troops stupid bastards:

    https://videos.whatfinger.com/2020/09/25/biden-to-servicemembers-or-stupid-bastards-imagine-of-trump-said-this-even-as-a-joke-fast-10-secs/

  108. Leigh Lowe

    Is Unified Security registered?
    Surely we can track down directors and owners via ASIC.

  109. thefrollickingmole

    If you are going to stuff up, stuff up like this…
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/25/argentina-politician-breasts-online-debate
    A legislator in Argentina’s lower house of congress has been forced to resign after he was seen kissing his girlfriend’s bare breasts during an online congressional debate.

    The scandalous moment, during a debate about pension fund investments, was transmitted live on the lower house’s YouTube channel and on a giant screen set up in congress for online debates during the pandemic.

    While some Argentinian legislators are attending sessions in person, many are logging on from home.

    Juan Carlos Ameri claimed that he thought he was offline during the incident, but resigned on Thursday after he was called to order by the president of the lower house, Sergio Massa.

    “I have a terrible [internet] connection at home,” Ameri said in a radio interview later.

    Ameri said that his girlfriend, who had recent breast augmentation surgery, happened to enter the room while he thought he was offline and that he called her over.

    “Let’s see how the implants look, I told her. Look, this one’s down more, this one’s down less, let’s look at the scars, and she was beside me and I kissed her tits, and that was all,” Ameri said.

    Despite his claim that he thought he was offline, footage that promptly went viral shows the legislator looking directly into his computer’s camera before pulling down his partner’s blouse, all in full view of the other members of congress and online viewers.

  110. Will Ryan Phelan’s accuser be indicted for attempting to pervert the course of justice?

    (Chortles)

  111. Knuckle Dragger

    Liability Bob this morning:

    *on the horizon*
    *faintly, waving*

    ‘Looooook at meeee. Lookit meee.

    ‘Pay attention to meeeeeee……….’

  112. Top Ender

    Anyone else out there going to war with Foxtel?

    Overpriced and difficult to get what you want.

    Basically we’d like 9 movie channels, BBC1, the History and National Geographic channels and that’s it.

    Seems impossible to get without having another 50 channels added on for as much money as they can gouge.

    I’m thinking maybe cancel it for a few weeks and see if they come back begging.

  113. Roger

    I must confess I was once one of the fools who believed hazza had testicles.

    He did…once.

    So did Edward VIII as Prince of Wales; during WWI he wanted to command a unit on the front lines but Kitchener forbade it. Edward nevertheless visited the front many times to boost morale and was decorated.

    Many parallels between the two men.

  114. Viva

    Nobody in the media has yet stated the bleedin’ obvious.

    Dan Andrews made the decision to hire private contractors and government ministers and bureaucrats are too scared to dob him in.

  115. thefrollickingmole

    Ever considered that the behaviour of the generation in question, and their offspring, might remember that in the context of government’s demands around the pandemic?

    Dotage, not even once.
    Im sure that word salad means something once enough synapses stop firing.

  116. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Ameri said that his girlfriend, who had recent breast augmentation surgery, happened to enter the room while he thought he was offline and that he called her over.

    ‘“Let’s see how the implants look, I told her. Look, this one’s down more, this one’s down less, let’s look at the scars, and she was beside me and I kissed her tits, and that was all,” Ameri said.’

    Look – I’m sorry, but I just can’t identify anything negative in that episode.

    Promote that man!

  117. Steve trickler

    Fleccas gives his point of view.

    The MSM are useless!



  118. cohenite

    So did Edward VIII as Prince of Wales; during WWI he wanted to command a unit on the front lines but Kitchener forbade it. Edward nevertheless visited the front many times to boost morale and was decorated.

    Many parallels between the two men.

    I don’t get it. I’ve never had a root so good it turned me into a leftie.

  119. mh

    David Penberthy a couple of weeks back:

    But on two key fronts — spreading the virus and tracking it once it spread — the Victorian government has been in a dunce’s class of its own through the absurd use of untrained private security guards and the in­adequacy of its contact tracing regime.

    I Stand With Dan? Read this.

    In its hearings last Thursday, the Victorian hotel quarantine inquiry was told how two security guards, who were untrained subcontractors, were caught having sex while working at Melbourne’s Swanston Street Rydges Hotel, while others were hassling nurses for their mobile numbers so they could “hook up”; others were caught urinating on bathroom floors, and others still were caught stealing food out of residents’ bags.

    At the same time, three young children in quarantine became so distressed by their incarceration that they started smearing the hotel room walls with their own excrement.

    Their mother was hysterical and while the private security guards were busy putting the moves on nurses, one nurse managed to dodge their advances long enough to enter that infernal room and hoover up the shit with a vacuum cleaner.

    Still standing with Dan? The answer for many remains: yep, 100 per cent.

  120. Johno

    I have yet to see any evidence that the ridiculous submarine replacement fiasco has any merit. Even the Labor Party hasn’t come out against it.Surely there must be someone in our various Parliaments who can step up and expose the lunacy.

  121. Knuckle Dragger

    Never thought I’d say this. Byron Bay people can be funny. The Hun:

    ‘Byron Bay locals have declared war on Melbourne border hoppers, telling them to get back south of the border. Range Rovers, SUVs and even a Maserati or two with Victorian number plates are cruising Byron’s main drag along Jonson Street.

    ‘Pasty middle-aged white men with iPhones glued to their ears, upturned collars and loafers are “walking around as if they own the joint”. The women decked out in designer boho threads try to look the part.

    ‘“You can spot the Melburnians in a second,” longtime Byron local Putu Winchester-Stanton told Page 13.
    “They just reek of Melbourne. Puffer jackets and ironed jeans. I mean what’s with that?”

    ‘Winchester-Stanton, a former Heartbreak High soap idol turned local gay icon and ragtrader, says Byron has become overrun with yuppie Melburnians.

    “The tasteless mediocrity that plagues the greedy and selfish just oozes from their ironed jeans,” he said.’

    And:

    ‘Harsh, but he is not alone; “master of the dark arts” Kane Latty who lives in Byron’s Arts and Industrial Estate, says rich sushi-eating Melburnians sit around “like twats” eating Japanese.

    ‘“It was bad enough before the school holidays, but now they all ponce around thinking they’re the Hemsworths. Go f—ing home.”’

    Pre-Plague of Dan, I’d give this 10/10. Today, I give it 9.

  122. vr

    On occasion The Atlantic gets it right and the writer usually is Caitlin Flanagan.

    Will Democrats Fail the Amy Coney Barrett Test?

  123. feelthebern

    Hey Struth, if you’re out there.
    You might have seen that One Nation have dusted 500k in a ponzi scheme.
    If you are still tight with Malcolm Roberts, you might want to ask him to raise the issue the next time ASIC are in front of a Senate or Joint committee (he doesn’t have to be a member to pop in & ask questions). Conroy was notorious for it.

    The reason is, two of Australia’s highest profile fund managers personally contacted ASIC in early 2019 telling them it was a ponzi scheme & suggested ASIC use their newly minted powers to have the scheme halted.
    To which ASIC did nothing.
    And now a at least 250mill has been ripped up.
    Of which One Nation lost 500k.

  124. vr

    “They just reek of Melbourne. Puffer jackets and ironed jeans. I mean what’s with that?”

    If you didn’t know better, they could be referring to JC.

  125. Leigh Lowe

    Top Ender.
    I cracked it with Foxtel last week.
    Got sick of watching channel F100 (no satellite) and called “tech support”. You can’t talk to anyone. They will text you … eventually.
    Got sick of waiting.
    Cancelled the service.
    Five hours later I get a text.
    Me : “Signal poor for weeks. Shut off completely today. No tech response so I cancelled service ”
    Them : “If you cancelled that is why you have no signal”
    FFS.

  126. vr

    Aargh
    Should have been … If you didn’t know better, you would think they were referring to JC.

  127. cohenite

    It’s been put up already but worth a repeat: nadler shits himself; literally:

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/d4rIWJs_I8w

  128. Leigh Lowe

    KD at 9:22.
    Hun?
    Or Beetoota Advocate?

  129. Farmer Gez

    Mikakos has just resigned.

  130. Morsie

    I do like David Herbert’s recipes in the Weekend Oz.Pity he suffers from TDS .I stumbled upon his twitter feed via the Oz and its the usual crap.

  131. Leigh Lowe

    cohenite

    #3597795, posted on September 26, 2020 at 9:37 am

    It’s been put up already but worth a repeat: nadler shits himself; literally:

    Nadler and Pelosi look like the “before” shots in adverts for incontinence pads and denture glue.

  132. “Clap for that, you stupid bastards”
    Joe’s “deplorables” moment.
    He’s DONE.
    Still can lay him for [email protected]
    $$$

  133. notafan

    Completely or just from ministerial?

    If ministerial.

    Big deal.

  134. calli

    longtime Byron local Putu Winchester-Stanton

    Lol.

    “Longtime” could mean anything to an Adelaide native.

    Sounds like it was written by Blair.

  135. Some History

    BREAKING:

    Jenny Mikakos – Vic Health Minister – resigns

    https://twitter.com/JennyMikakos/status/1309636991785476096

  136. Leigh Lowe

    Farmer Gez

    #3597798, posted on September 26, 2020 at 9:39 am

    Mikakos has just resigned.

    Source?

  137. feelthebern

    It’s illegal to not iron your jeans in Victoria.
    If you don’t, a Karen can arrest you for incitement.

  138. cohenite

    Nadler and Pelosi look like the “before” shots in adverts for incontinence pads and denture glue.

    And vice versa.

  139. Magnificent crop of cartoons, Tom!

    I usually share one or two with the family. Almost all could have been shared today and many were.

    Interesting how the UK ones (at least those featured by Tom) have a consistent theme that suggests they are ahead of us.

  140. feelthebern

    Wow.
    Resigning from parliament too.

  141. Nick

    Winchester-Stanton, a former Heartbreak High soap idol turned local gay icon and ragtrader, says Byron has become overrun with yuppie Melburnians.

    Lol could be straight out of the Betoota Advocate

  142. Does anyone want to be lectured by Xenu dodger Elisabeth Moss about how bad Amy Coney Barrett is?

    I wish the left would quit this Handmaiden’s Tale palaver.

    You know, because Moss’ *religion* is a cult worse than NXVIM that forces women to abort their unborn children.

    Empowering wahmen. One bridge to total freedom at a time.

  143. thefrollickingmole

    Wow.
    Resigning from parliament too.

    Soon to appear on a superannuation fund board or 3 being paid 6 figures.

  144. Farmer Gez

    As I said yesterday.
    Andrews dropped the Mikakos burly over the side for the media a few days ago after getting the Health Services Union to ghost write a letter for him.
    He’s a very low piece of work.

  145. William the Conjuror

    Now, these same types demand various governments abandon restrictions and lockdowns because after all, only the old or the sick will die, and they were on their way out anyway. Suddenly, every life is not so sacred, after all.

    A factual statement. These demands and sentiments have been stridently expressed almost word for word by many here over past months.

  146. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Wow.
    Resigning from parliament too.

    Six months to a years penance, then she’ll be back on the public teat.

  147. Nick

    Resigning from parliament too.

    I predict a nice job with a union or some sort of migrant advisory body

  148. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I don’t get it. I’ve never had a root so good it turned me into a leftie.’

    Indeed.

    It starts with one, and then like the death of a thousand cuts it permeates your soul. You put up with a single MAFS episode to get more crotch fruit. There, that wasn’t so bad. Was it? Then it’s The Voice as well, sometimes taped and back-to-back, but crotch fruit’s still in season.

    Then it’s time to go to folk markets on Saturday mornings. With her friends, not yours, who will soon become your friends while your original friends slowly become nobody’s friends. But crotch fruit.

    Yum cha with the goils on Sundays. This is shit. But now it’s part of the dance, which if done well enough will be rewarded with crotch fruit.

    Going camping? Not with that singlet with holes in it, I’m not. We might meet someone we know. Put the effort in. Crotch fruit is the prize, the brass ring. You can’t buy your own clothes any more. Worse, clothes are brought home for you to wear. Worse again, your clothes, trusted companions for years and sometimes decades, go missing and are never mentioned again.

    Date nights. In complementary ensembles. Where ‘your’ friends might accidentally-on-purpose run into you. If not, full length selfies on Facebook enhanced with clip art love hearts are a close second.

    You know it’s getting out of control. But crotch fruit, now very occasionally. You wake up with someone else’s itinerary you get to dance to every day, with an inferrred chance of crotch fruit at some undisclosed later stage in the week. The game is now set at impossible benchmarks for a decreasing opportunity of sampling crotch fruit, which may or may not be going out of season.

    One day – huzzah! The crotch fruit ration has doubled!

    So no. No, it’s not worth it. Best just to keep walking past the orchard and grabbing fruit when you’re peckish, because anything else – with apologies and potential exceptions to the ladeeees present – overlaid with any competent cost/benefit analysis is untenable.

  149. Farmer Gez

    Resigning from parliament too.

    That’s awfully handy for Dan. She won’t have to face parliament and risk dropping the greasy turd in it.

  150. feelthebern

    The decline in Australian society is directly correlated with Sale of the Century ending.
    Prove me wrong.

  151. Leigh Lowe

    Lol could be straight out of the Betoota Advocate

    Yes, I thought Putu Winchester-Stanton had to be a joke name.
    Like Biggus Dickus.

  152. Leigh Lowe

    Resigning from parliament too.

    She’s Upper House.
    What’s the deal?
    By-election?
    Or the Pardee just parachute in another hack?

  153. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘The decline in Australian society is directly correlated with Sale of the Century ending.’

    Finally, someone said it.

  154. Roger

    Jenny Mikakos – Vic Health Minister – resigns

    But still doesn’t accept responsibility and doesn’t know who hired the security firms, even though she announced it back in March.

    Goodbye & thanks for playing, Jenny.

  155. Steve trickler

    This clip remains in the realm of obscurity.



  156. feelthebern

    What’s that Lavinia Nixon up to these days?
    She was a ray of sunshine wasn’t she.

  157. Farmer Gez

    William the Conjuror
    #3597817, posted on September 26, 2020 at 9:48 am
    Now, these same types demand various governments abandon restrictions and lockdowns because after all, only the old or the sick will die, and they were on their way out anyway. Suddenly, every life is not so sacred, after all.

    A factual statement. These demands and sentiments have been stridently expressed almost word for word by many here over past months.

    Believe me, the sudden interest by state governments in every life being sacred doesn’t wash with country people. Hundreds of Doctor positions infilled across the country.
    They can force you to wear a mask, close down your business and lock you up for twenty hours a day but they can’t get a GP to go to the bush.

  158. stackja

    Health Minister Jenny Mikakos has resigned from parliament
    Victoria’s Health Minister Jenny Mikakos has resigned effective immediately. She said she was sorry for the situation Victoria was in but didn’t believe her actions led to it.

    Herald Sun
    Subscriber only
    |
    September 26, 2020 9:54am

    Health Minister Jenny Mikakos has resigned.
    Ms Mikakos released a statement on Saturday announcing her resignation from parliament.
    She said she was deeply sorry for the situation that Victorians are in.

    “In good conscience, I do not believe that my actions led to them.”

    It comes after health unions and Federal Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton called for Ms Mikakos to resign or be sacked.

    During Premier Daniel Andrews 2.5-hour grilling at the hotel quaratine inquiry, he said Ms Mikakos was in charge of the botched program which was responsible for almost all of the cases in Victoria’s deadly second wave.

    MORE TO COME

  159. Major Elvis Newton

    Jenny from the block is gone.

    Her statement tells us all we need to know about how Daniel Andrews works.

  160. Knuckle Dragger

    Mikakos’ statement:

    ‘With the benefit of hindsight, there are clearly matters that my department should have briefed me on.’

    And:

    ‘For 3 months I had looked forward to learning who made the fateful decision to use security guards’

    Fuck off Mikakos, you murdering slag. Ten times worse than Myra Hindley. You should have your legs broken and be reduced to begging in the street.

    NADT.

  161. Roger

    Goodbye & thanks for playing, Jenny.

    Oh…and don’t forget that bust of Pericles on your way out.

    I predict a nice job with a union or some sort of migrant advisory body

    Her silence won’t come cheap. Does Victoria have a trade commissioner in Athens?

  162. P

    If you thought the last confirmation fight was ugly, just wait for this one.

    NOW I REMEMBER

  163. Leigh Lowe

    It starts with one, and then like the death of a thousand cuts it permeates your soul. You put up with a single MAFS episode …

    Victory!
    Mrs L watched it for a few seasons.
    I would retire to elsewhere in the house.
    Initially I used to take the piss out of the Instagram profile building complete with the trout-pouts and the hissy fits.
    During the last season I said “This is just downright vicious and cruel. Trust me. Eventually a contestant will top themselves.”
    Overhead last week “I am over MAFS. Not watching it again.”
    Praise de Lord.

  164. Knuckle Dragger

    Lavinia Nixon.

    If only we’d had her as Chief Commissoner instead of Christine.

  165. Mater

    Ever considered that the behaviour of the generation in question, and their offspring, might remember that in the context of government’s demands around the pandemic?

    No. Not at all.
    I don’t, for a second, think that there is more than a handful of people that dwell on Vietnam every day of their lives, and drag everything back to that one single issue.

    In fact, I’d hazard to say that you are probably the only person in this country who has (spuriously) made a connection between conscripts in Vietnam and COVID-19. Not unexpected for you, but it’s not mainstream thinking, Bob.

  166. notafan

    That’s a break up letter if ever there was one.

    Keep saying this show was run straight out of the Premier’s office.

    DHHS didn’t have oversight of hotel quarantine. It was department of jobs and something called global trade.

    Captain’s pick.

  167. Nick

    She said she was sorry for the situation Victoria was in but didn’t believe her actions led to it.

    She was only the Minister in charge of Health.

  168. Nick

    Overhead last week “I am over MAFS. Not watching it again.”

    Until next season. Just you wait LL. Lol.

  169. notafan

    She just might be implying the I’m focused on beating the virus Lremier might have been calling the shots.

    Will she shut up post resignation?
    I hope not.

  170. Dr Faustus

    I’m thinking maybe cancel it for a few weeks and see if they come back begging.

    They don’t.
    Foxtel has been run off the road by Netflix etc and the various FTA catchups. Now lying in the ditch wondering what happened.

  171. Farmer Gez

    Hang on, I’m backpedaling a bit on Jenny Mikakos being part of Dan’s grand plan.
    She’s saying her integrity was undermined.
    The full resignation may be her way of freeing herself to criticise Andrews away from the government and give detail of the quarantine decision process.

    Andrews would have a tough time attacking her in parliament or legally as it would look like a square up or an attempt to hide the truth.

    I’m hopeful that other ministers will follow and Dan will be home by Christmas. An election in the new year.

  172. Perth Trader

    ”Health Minister Jenny Mikakos has resigned from parliament”…..
    Greg Hunt should resign aswell…..its his job to observe and oversee Health Services in all Aust.

  173. Bruce of Newcastle

    Health Minister Jenny Mikakos has resigned.

    Watch for her to be appointed Victorian trade envoy to Paris, or to several Industry Superfund boards. I suspect someone in the ALP has told her to take the fall for the sake of the Party and has promised her a reward for doing so.

  174. Snoopy

    Everyone in the Victorian government knows who directed that Unified Security be used. But Andrews is too modest to claim the credit.

  175. Cassie of Sydney

    “Morsie
    #3597801, posted on September 26, 2020 at 9:42 am
    I do like David Herbert’s recipes in the Weekend Oz.Pity he suffers from TDS .I stumbled upon his twitter feed via the Oz and its the usual crap.”

    Oh no…..I wish you hadn’t told me that!

  176. feelthebern

    Greg Hunt should resign aswell

    He should resign for making vapers get prescriptions.
    There are better ways to prop up GP’s & the Pharmacy Guild.

  177. Cassie of Sydney

    “Nick
    #3597819, posted on September 26, 2020 at 9:49 am
    Resigning from parliament too.

    I predict a nice job with a union or some sort of migrant advisory body”

    I predict she will be appointed to the Vic judiciary…she’ll be in good company.

  178. Top Ender

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    Gerry van Tonder

    Hi Rosie, I am sorry to put a damper on this book, but having extensively studied the Matabele and Mashona rebellions in the then Rhodesia in 1896-97, I purchased this book as Jack Sherwood-Kelly VC had served in Matabeleland at that time.

    On page 21, author Philip Bujak refers to ‘the Matabeleland (sic) Rebellion that broke out on the borders of the Transkei in 1896’. Bulawayo, the capital of Matabeleland and where the settlers laagered themselves is more than 780 miles in a direct line north of Lady Frere and the Transkei ‘borders’.

    The Matabele Rebellion is well documented by well-known persons who were there such as Robert Baden-Powell (Scout movement), Herbert Plumer (of First World War fame) and Frederick Courteney Selous, in addition to the official record by the British South Africa Company, the occupying authority at the time. The London Gazette of 5 April 1898 published military and civilian casualties of the two rebellions. It is inexcusable that the author got his geography so wrong.

    On the same page, erroneous reference is made to ‘The British South Africa Medal (Matabeleland)’. Firstly, it is the British South Africa Company Medal. The original ‘Matabeleland 1893’ medal was for the so-called Matabele War when Lobengula was defeated. The medal was re-issued and inscribed with ‘Rhodesia 1896’ and ‘Mashonaland 1897’ to cover the two rebellion campaigns.

    On page 22, the author wrongly writes that ‘Jack joined the Native Department in The (sic) Cape. It was the Rhodesian Native Department that he had in fact joined.

    On page 25, Bujak claims the Boers took ‘Kimberley altogether. This is incorrect as the town, like Mafeking and Ladysmith, was besieged, with Lieutenant Colonel Robert Kekewich in command of defending forces.

    On page 27, the author writes that ‘his medals began to accumulate and his first decorations read in order: ‘Orange Free State’, Transvaal’, ‘Rhodesia’ and ‘Relief of Mafeking’.’ These are neither medals nor decorations. They are campaign clasps to the Queen’s South Africa Medal for the Second Boer War.

    Finally, for this chapter, another factual flaw on page 29, where Bujak writes that ‘A flying column was therefore despatched from Lady Frere under the command of Lt. Colonel Plumer’ to relieve Mafeking.
    Again, there are geographical and historical errors, where it is evident that the author failed to research the subject matter—Lady Frere is almost 800 miles to the south, and in a totally separate theatre of the conflict. Plumer had been sent back to Rhodesia by the War Office in London in July 1899 to raise a Rhodesia regiment to defend the country’s border from Boer invasion to the south. Successfully defending the border, the Boer threat faded and Plumer fought his way through Bechuanaland to link up with Colonel Bryan Mahon’s relief column from Barkly West (west of Bloemfontein) on 15 May 1900. The combined columns relieved Mafeking in the early hours of 17 May.

    Unfortunately, I have had to desist from reading the book beyond this opening chapter, out of concern for its veracity.

    This author is also a convicted criminal, currently serving a prison sentence for fraud: link

  179. notafan

    Yes Farmer Gez. Thrown under bus and crawling out, dusting down her skirt and doing a little push back I hope.

  180. Neil

    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/nbn-v-5g-the-broadband-battle-is-about-to-heat-up-20200924-p55yz5.html

    The idea of the National Broadband Network being made redundant by mobile technology is about to be put to the test as Australian telcos get their skates on to offer customers 5G-powered alternatives to the NBN.

  181. stackja

    PT – Victorian voters elected Dan. Trying to blame Hunt is a distraction.

  182. Cassie of Sydney

    “I’m hopeful that other ministers will follow and Dan will be home by Christmas. An election in the new year.”

    You wish…Dan the man isn’t going anywhere.

  183. Dr Faustus

    The plan rolling out smoothly for Maximum Leader.

    – The whole team played dead bat to soft bowling;
    – Media generally in the tank;
    – Mikakos stuck to the script;
    – The Beattie – ‘blame me, then‘ – card played well;

    Just needs the Coates Report to crochet the loose ends tightly into the dark corners of the bureaucracy.
    Job done.

  184. woolfe

    Ha ha TE, Gerry knows his shit!

  185. Trump has designated antifa &KKK as domestic terror organisations.

  186. calli

    Come on, guys. It was only a few hundred deaths and a ruined economy.

    Nothing like, for instance, a bottle of Grange.

  187. Farmer Gez

    Not so sure Cassie.

    The urge for self preservation is strong and I doubt that some of the ministers will want to wait for the inquiry report.
    The dam wall has cracked.

  188. miltonf

    PT – Victorian voters elected Dan. Trying to blame Hunt is a distraction.

    Let’s see QLDers elected Pleasurechook; NSWers elected Gladishocklian (not me, I voted informal in the LA); they elected the Lieborals in SA and got more of the same. The problem in Australia- the political establishment

  189. Perth Trader

    stackja
    #3597872, posted on September 26, 2020 at 10:17 am…..I’m not trying to blame Hunt. My point is he is the Fed. Minister for Health and its his job to oversee and manage ALL health in Aust. At no time do I recall Hunt ever commenting in a negative way , the hotel security and at times the Vic. Govt tried to blame the Feds. for the Age Care deaths . The man has no shame or realization of his portfolio. Plus…I cant stand the fuka.

  190. miltonf

    Hunt is the son of a another Victorian politician. Another political dynasty. Thinks he’s born to rule and unfortunately the electors in his seat seem to agree.

    Hunt’s Melbourne Uni thesis- ‘make the polluter pay’

  191. Not yet, LS.
    He wants to let them run a bit further I think.
    Good for the campaign.

  192. dover_beach

    The ‘saving lives’ rationale for shuttering businesses, nighttime curfews, imprisoning vulnerable elderly in their rooms, and so on, is bunk. It lacks all proportion, and it is principally put forward by nimcoompops. The only justification for such measures interupting the common life of a community is to stave off the collapse of the hospital system. Once that became very unlikely none of these restrictions should have had the force of law. They should have been recommendations left to individuals, families, and groups to abide by.

  193. Snoopy

    Perth Trader

    My point is he is the Fed. Minister for Health and its his job to oversee and manage ALL health in Aust.

    No.

  194. stackja

    miltonf – The problem is voters keep electing ALP to government expecting a different result.
    Before Gough, hospitals cared for patients. Then came the bureaucrats.

  195. notafan

    Perth trader talking rubbish.

    If your gp misdiagnosed your tinea as foot dandruff by your logic federal health minister to blame.

  196. Bruce of Newcastle

    How NOT to promote a book

    If he’d only written instead about the nuclear weapons program the Zulus had going in 1879 all would’ve been forgiven. He could’ve called it Blacks Enriching More Uranium.

  197. Cassie of Sydney

    “stackja
    #3597894, posted on September 26, 2020 at 10:35 am
    miltonf – The problem is voters keep electing ALP to government expecting a different result.
    Before Gough, hospitals cared for patients. Then came the bureaucrats.”

    Yep.

  198. stackja

    Health Minister Jenny Mikakos has resigned from parliament
    Victoria’s Health Minister Jenny Mikakos has resigned effective immediately less than a day after Premier Daniel Andrews said she was in charge of the failed hotel quarantine program. Ms Mikakos said she was sorry for the situation Victoria was in but didn’t believe her actions led to it.

    Sharon McGowan and Matt Johnston, Herald Sun
    Subscriber only
    |
    September 26, 2020 9:36am

    ….

    “For three months, I had looked forward to learning who made the fateful decision to use security guards. Victorians deserve to know who,” she wrote.

    “I have always put everything into my ministerial responsibilities. I have never wanted to leave a job unfinished but in the light of the Premier’s statement to the Board of Inquiry and the fact that there are elements in that that I strongly disagree with, I believe I cannot continue to serve in his cabinet.

    “I have never shirked my responsibility for my department but it is not my responsibility alone. I look forward to the Board of Inquiry’s final report.”

    Ms Mikakos said she takes responsibility for the health department and “the buck stops” with her, but said that there were matters that her department didn’t brief her on.

  199. Perth Trader

    Snoopy
    #3597892, posted on September 26, 2020 at 10:31 am…..YES. There is far to much of ..’Thats not my area…thats a state issue.”…….Its time FED. Ministers at the very least stood up to stupid decisions with stupid outcomes.

  200. feelthebern

    Gavin McInnes on parler.

    How do you know your son’s little league team is going to lose?
    1. There are tons of Trump signs in town.
    2. All the kids have buzz cuts.
    3. The dads are there.

  201. miltonf

    I’m not sure what people were expecting when they elected Whitlam in ’72 (I was only in primary school at the time). Maybe they we pissed off about conscription- looking back it seems like a golden age.

  202. miltonf

    According to Tim Blair, sewerage in the west of Sydney was one good thing Whitlam did but I’m sure Askin would have got round to it!

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