Open Forum: September 26, 2020

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  1. JD

    Arky
    #3600641, posted on September 29, 2020 at 12:07 am

    Arky, try the Potato Hack by Tim Steele. 3 days a week of just potatoes. Baked, boiled or steamed. No oil, butter or any thing fancy. Just salt and pepper. I lost 5kg in 6 weeks. Still another 8 to go 🙁

  2. Rex Mango

    Best 8min of video you will see. Cut straight to 7.45min to see what flying aircraft all about:

  3. Arky

    Checked fine print and it is a Chine personal data harvester.

    ..
    Pretty sure the chinese already know I’m a fat bastard.

  4. MatrixTransform

    Still another 8 to go

    weeks or kilograms?

  5. Arky

    Arky, try the Potato Hack by Tim Steele.

    ..
    Oh noes.
    Not an invitation for everyone to post diet tips.
    I’m covered for the losing the weight part of the process.
    It’s the many months down the track losing interest and starting to shovel litres of ice cream, donuts and cheese covered bacon rolls into my gob that trips me up.

  6. Arky

    Let’s face it. It’s the maintaining a constant weight that’s impossible.
    Putting it on: Easy.
    Taking it back off: For sure, time consuming, but hardly fricking rocket science.
    But sticking in the same amount as what’s coming out, day after frigging day for bloody forever?
    Fuck that.

  7. Zyconoclast

    Dairy firm a2 Milk has flagged a hit to its revenue as the lockdown in Victoria shuts down its most lucrative sales channel to getting its product into China.

    A2 said its lucrative corporate daigou channels had been disrupted by the COVID-19 pandemic, particularly by the lockdown in Victoria.

  8. Jo

    Arky, didn’t you say the missus is one of the world’s worst cooks? The Kgs will fly off if she does all the cooking.

  9. Jo

    I have a cunning plan. Stick munty rake and fat cop in a locked room with a doughnut. There can only be one. At least one problem solved.

  10. Mark A

    Arky
    #3600641, posted on September 29, 2020 at 12:07 am

    I’ve gotta lose 33 Kg.
    I’m on it.

    Set up a spreadsheet yesterday.

    Interesting.
    I was under the impression it was eating less that made you lose weight,👍😎

  11. Top Ender

    Prince Harry should be stripped of his royal title because he is currently ‘exploiting’ it for his personal financial gain, former Lib Dem MP Norman has claimed.

    Mr Baker, 63, author of What The Royal Family Don’t Want You To Know, argued the Duke of Sussex, 36, should be made to live as a private individual, after a Tatler survey found two thirds of Britons think he and Meghan, 39, should be stripped of their HRH titles.

    Mr Baker argued Harry should not be allowed to keep his HRH title because he is no longer representing the British royal family overseas and is cashing in on his pedigree.

    Daily Mail

  12. calli

    Only 4 more years to the bi-centenary of Portland Cement!

    Blast! A busy day in the garden made me miss Engineering Evening at the Cat. Someone mentioned the pumping station, so I’ll put forward Baselgette (Mr Sewers) as another one for the Victorian Hall of Fame.

    Thanks to Big Steel and Big Cement, I now have 1.4million ffps, and nowhere to go thanks to Covid. In four years’ time I might go and check out some British bridges. They’ll still be there.

  13. Entropy

    Ah, I rembember when A Flock of Seagullls had big hair and edgy mascara.

  14. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Set up a spreadsheet yesterday.’

    That’s an odd name for a picnic blanket.

  15. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘survey found two thirds of Britons think he and Meghan, 39, should be stripped of their HRH titles.’

    This is astounding. I thought it would have been 85% at least. However – the nut-free ranga’s clearly trading on nanna’s last vestiges of grandmaternal instinct.

    Lizzie II may well give him a tour for his next birthday though. A free tour. Of French tunnels.

  16. calli

    For the curious, the illustrated synopsis of the Book of Job that Rickw posted last night is well worth a look.

    In Pre-Cambrian times, it was listed for study in 1st Year Literature at uni. Imagine doing that now. The point of the study wasn’t really about content, just structure of literature from antiquity through to the present day. At the other end of the time-line was Woolfe’s Mrs Dalloway. Somewhere in the middle we waded through Paradise Lost.

    Dreadful Patriarchal, White Supremacist stuff.

  17. Nob

    Calli,

    Bazalgette.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Bazalgette

    His great-great-grandson Peter is a well-known TV producer, thus the saying that where Joseph was responsible for removing shit from people’s homes, Peter was pumping it back in.

    What an age, Victorian , when engineers were heroes.

    Who can think of a well-known engineer in our lifetime? Ove Arup?
    That’d be it.

  18. Nob

    Of course, best-known engineer of the 21st century is OBL but not for building anything.

  19. calli

    Knight! 🤣

    Poor Rowe has left our shores again. He must have had a little shoulder tap about his last ‘toon.

  20. calli

    Whoops. Misspelled Mr B’s name. Too busy planning virtual river cruises.

    Most engineers go unsung. I owe my a great deal of my financial well-being to a terrific structural engineer who I’ve trusted for twenty five years. Never had a failure, always comes up with a solution to make what looks impossible buildable. No shortcuts.

    Not quite Opera House level stuff though. 😃

  21. sfw

    Salvatore, I first came across Fred when I was interested in those big chimneys from a construction viewpoint, how he brought them down was brilliant, love his workwear too.

  22. MatrixTransform

    theTard has run out of its own gibber already

  23. Mater

    theTard has run out of its own gibber already

    It’s the only way he can ensure he’s not caught out in a lie.

  24. Knuckle Dragger

    Nothing to see here. The NT News:

    ‘The court heard the boy was sniffing aerosols on the Galiwinku oval with the girl who was not intoxicated in the early hours of October 30 when she started to walk home.

    ‘As she left, another child “found” a machete and the boy said “give me that machete because I have to bash that little girl for not listening to me”.

    ‘At that point the boy — now armed with the machete — followed the girl and swung the weapon at her, hitting her in her upper arm. He then stood over her and continued the assault, using the knife “in a chopping motion” to her face and head.

    ‘One of the girl’s friends intervened and finally managed to push the boy away but Chief Justice Michael Grant said that was “the only reason you stopped attacking that girl”.

    ‘The girl was flown to Royal Darwin Hospital for emergency surgery, suffering “severe lacerations” to her skull and arms, broken knuckles and multiple severed tendons in both her hands. She stayed in hospital for a month and required splints and hand therapy to regain the function of her hands.’

    Ahem. ‘I have to bash that little girl for not listening to me’ is taught to these people since they could walk. It’s culture, just as telling the Dreaming stories is culture. It is exactly the same.

    The indig population is booming in this country because urban whiteys with an urge for various gummint grants and other free stuff, like landing a gig on Unified Security’s board are identifying as such.

    It is not booming in the ‘traditional’ areas because of this, and only remaining stable because of access to First World medical care.

    The NT Coroner just finished a review of three youth suicide jobs. In every case, the girls involved were flogged by siblings, parents and other ‘family’ even before their promised husbands (when they were 13) got to them.

    They’d already seen the lifetime of brutality dished out to other women in their particular group waiting for them*. Of course they didn’t see a way out. It’ll be whitey’s fault though, mark my words.

    *Nothing’s changed since the days of Watkin Tench.

  25. rickw

    Salty Cracker, 9:49, Somali Mail Pirates:

  26. Bruce of Newcastle

    Haha, Numbers links to a lefty story saying the Palis are handling the virus better than Israel.
    The Palis are doing basically nothing.
    Yet Numbers has been yodeling about how wonderful we’re handling it, lockdowns, quarantine and all that.

    Do you realise, sir, that you are supporting two exactly opposite ideas at the same time?

  27. Dr Faustus

    Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews promises rulebreakers will not be fined for confessing to coronavirus contact tracers

    Mr Andrews said the information given to contact tracers by people with the virus was far more valuable than the fine.

    “I know that seems counterintuitive,” Mr Andrews said.

    “We could all feel better if people who were doing the wrong thing got fined. We would be slightly satisfied about that.

    Vikpol disagrees:

    Chief Commissioner Shane Patton yesterday warned police would not hesitate to issue the fine to people caught attending indoor or outdoor gatherings.

    He said police would only exercise discretion not to issue fines “in the most extreme circumstance and very rarely”.

    Zero tolerance policing public health.
    You’re in safe hands.

  28. calli

    And our Covid buzzword for today is…

    Complacency

    “Eradication” is soooo yesterday.

  29. Knuckle Dragger

    More NT News, apropos of $529,000 of quality stock horses being shot at Killarney Station by dickheads.

    I’m very much pro SSAA people. Pro gun, pro all that stuff. But I tell you what, the NT branch (of all people) of the SSAA have done themselves no favours at all:

    ‘In a brief statement, the branch said members had been asked onto the station by management to conduct shooting of feral animals. “We confirm that members of SSAA NT did attend Killarney Station, at the request of their management, to conduct feral animal control activities,” the statement read.

    ‘“As the matter is currently being investigated, we provide no further comment at this time. “We ask that the privacy of our members be respected.”’

    No. No you do not get to ask for privacy for your members. What you should have done is posted a photo of the rest of your members, at the gates to Killarney, all with shovels.

    ‘The NT SSAA is horrified at the wilful use of our name and our brand, recklessly using firearms to destroy well-maintained working horses and much loved personally owned stock. The two people responsible are facing criminal charges, and have been expelled from this and any other shooting association of any sort for life. Any appearance of their names on committee or honour boards has been erased.

    ‘In an inadequate display of atonement, but which represents the depth of our feelings as an association the members of NT SSAA will bury all 29 horses. By hand, in baked-hard country that has not seen rain for seven months.

    ‘In ten years’ time the NT SSAA will re-apply to control feral pests on NT stations. Until that time we will dedicate ourselves to the free maintenance of every firearm on Killarney and its bordering stations, and all fees to SSAA will go to equine budgets on those stations.’

    It’s not much, but better than that shit they served up. Weak as piss.

  30. mh

    He said police would only exercise discretion not to issue fines “in the most extreme circumstance and very rarely”.

    Being Afghani is one of those extreme circumstances.

  31. 1735099

    Two exactly opposite ideas?

    The second idea (strict lockdowns) is a consequence of the first (let it rip).
    Victoria and Israel have had very similar experiences.

  32. Cassie of Sydney

    “Do you realise, sir, that you are supporting two exactly opposite ideas at the same time?”

    The racist will engage in any lie and fabrication in order to smear and libel Jooos and the Joooish state. He gets off on it.

  33. Mater

    The second idea (strict lockdowns) is a consequence of the first (let it rip).
    Victoria and Israel have had very similar experiences.

    So when did Victoria “let it rip” (with the exception of the BLM protest)?

  34. Bruce of Newcastle

    Numbers – The Palis “let it rip”. And you are saying how good that is compared with Israel. Which is exactly opposite of what you’ve been saying on this blog for months, especially about the US vs Australia.

    Not much the Palis could do about it in any case because their internal politics are so poisonous.

    I am amused that you manage to hold two diametrically opposite views at the same time. Orwell was so right about lefties.

  35. Shy Ted

    That Rowe cartoon will sure give TooBob a morning boner. I wonder if it compares the foiled reunification plans (to live in the debbil debbil Is real) in it’ early morning link of misery to all those Australians unable to visit elderly and sick relatives and friends. And why does it smile at the thought of the misery of others? First thing in the morning. And throughout the day. Every day. No need to answer a rhetorical question.

  36. Cassie of Sydney

    “So when did Victoria “let it rip” (with the exception of the BLM protest)?”

    That’s right Mater…it is a false analogy. The racist is a liar and fraud but we all know that.

  37. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3600714, posted on September 29, 2020 at 7:22 am

    More NT News, apropos of $529,000 of quality stock horses being shot at Killarney Station by dickheads.

    Quite apart from the sickening slaughter of the horses, there is also the matter of being well inside a “no-go” area. Which could have had kids on dirt bikes, station hands etc. And don’t tell me these two dickheads were highly experienced shooters who wouldn’t put anyone in danger.
    No point bleating about gun rights with poster-boys like these two, especially when SSAA NT are giving them the wet lettuce leaf treatment and hiding behind “respeck our privacy” bullshit.

  38. notafan

    People now blanketing Melbourne parks to harass picnickers by demanding driver’s licenses.

    Fantastic optics chief Wiggum.

  39. mh

    I love the sound of rakes in the morning

    * thwack *

  40. 1735099

    So when did Victoria “let it rip”

    When they stuffed up the hotel quarantine.
    Funny thing is, what you lot rail about (strict enforcement of the lockdowns) is responsible for the drop in the infection rate.

  41. Tel

    That Rowe cartoon will sure give TooBob a morning boner

    He’s drawn Trump at the hairdresser after it was Nancy Pelosi who got caught cheating on her own rules going out for a haircut during “lockdown” … and Trump called her out on it. Classic dishonesty accusing the other guy of doing what your mob is doing.

  42. Cassie of Sydney

    “That Rowe cartoon will sure give TooBob a morning boner.”

    You have to feel sorry for Mrs TooBob.

  43. Leigh Lowe

    P

    #3600721, posted on September 29, 2020 at 7:34 am

    Cardinal George Pell is set to return to Rome on Tuesday at the Vatican’s invitation.
    It is believed the invitation emanates from Pope Francis.

    George’s nemesis in the Vatican, Cardinal Becciu, resigned last week under a cloud over financial improprieties.
    Becciu is believed to be the front-runner to manage procurement for the State of Victoria.

  44. Cassie of Sydney

    “Becciu is believed to be the front-runner to manage procurement for the State of Victoria.”

    I’m sure Becciu has cultivated many mates in Victoria…particularly within VicPlod

  45. Shy Ted

    “weak positive corona virus test in NT” says Skynews. Girly men in the NT. I bet they’d all swoon and fall over if there was strong positive test.

  46. Mater

    1735099
    #3600730, posted on September 29, 2020 at 7:41 am

    So when did Victoria “let it rip”

    When they stuffed up the hotel quarantine.

    Oh, sorry, my mistake.
    I didn’t realise that fucking up quarantine was a policy position.

    On a side note, your binary outlook (strict lockdowns vs “let it rip”), is contrary to your usual guff.
    Do you think there might have been another option? Hint: I outlined it here in March.

  47. Bruce of Newcastle

    Funny thing is, what you lot rail about (strict enforcement of the lockdowns) is responsible for the drop in the infection rate.

    Numbers – Now you are criticising Cats for what you just praised the Palis for. Sheesh.

  48. 1735099

    The story about the nitwits shooting horses in the NT reminds me of a canoeing trip we did down the Burdekin in 1982. We camped second night on a sandbank in the middle of the river. At about ten pm all hell broke loose with people shooting from the northern bank. Rounds were going over our heads and some sounded close. We yelled and waved torches and they stopped. Then we heard cars starting up. They were a bunch of gun wankers having a yippee shoot.
    It’s similar to what happened on Killarney – once a gun wanker always a gun wanker.

  49. Boambee John

    All I am saying is that the whole thing sounds very suss. Why would Antifa super soldiers burn down half of one bloke’s garage. Doesn’t seem like their style. Much more believable that it was a MAGAt making it up for some good old-fashioned insurance fraud.

    The court will be upstanding for m0nty, judge, jury and executioner!

  50. Joanna

    Trump has been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize for a third time. Courtesy of Australia. From over at Townhall.

    A group of Australian law professors have given President Trump his third Nobel Peace Prize nomination for his commitment to ending foreign wars.

    “The Trump Doctrine is something extraordinary, as so many things that Donald Trump does,” law professor David Flint explained on Sky News. “He is guided by two things, which seem to be absent from so many politicians. He has firstly common sense and he is only guided by a national interest, and therefore, in our circumstances, an interest in the Western alliance. What he has done with the Trump Doctrine is that he has decided that he would no longer have America involved in endless wars, wars which achieve nothing, but the killing of thousands of young Americans and enormous debts imposed on America.”

  51. notafan

    Remember all those baying for Pope Francis to strip Cardinal Pell of his priesthood and the response that the Vatican would wait until all Australia legal avenues had been completed before even commencing a review?

    Looks like Pope Francis stood by his man. I mean he actually knows Cardinal Pell so why wouldn’t he?

  52. miltonf

    Anyone know who wrote this shit in the Hun?

    HOW DONALD TRUMP WAS ABLE TO PAY JUST $750 IN TAX
    Tax avoidance represents uncontrollable greed from those at the top and theft from those at the bottom of society. Here’s how they do it and what needs to change.

    theft from those at the bottom of society that actually makes me think of the lady in the check at Woolies rose Hill helping to pay Leigh Sales (said with a little snarl) substantial salary.

  53. lotocoti

    People here are probably familiar with Deliverance, so it’s probably unwise to try and pass off that plot as anecdote.

  54. 1735099

    Protect all vulnerable individuals?

    Genius.
    To do that you would need to put all nursing homes, their residents and staff into permanent quarantine forever or at least until a vaccine is developed. The current model of aged care would have to be completely revamped. You might even have to pay staff in residential institutions the full value of their work, rather than forcing them to work multiple shifts across a range of locations to earn a living wage. You might also need to employ some actual registered nurses in what are euphemistically called “nursing” homes. In addition, people with disabilities in group homes and residential institutions would have to be protected in the same way.
    Without these reforms, this suggestion is simply writing off a large segment of the population as disposable, identical morally to full term abortion.

    In answer to your question, it’s not just insane, but criminally insane. It resembles the NAZIs solution to the “Joowish problem”.

    In the name of the almighty dollar, every knee shall bend.

  55. Mater

    The story about the nitwits shooting horses in the NT reminds me of a canoeing trip we did down the Burdekin in 1982.

    Well I guess this fantasy makes a change from the usual Vietnam stuff.

    At about ten pm all hell broke loose with people shooting from the northern bank. Rounds were going over our heads and some sounded close. We yelled and waved torches and they stopped.

    Can’t have been too close if you were standing up waving torches. Your ‘Contact Drills’ seem a little rusty, Bob.

    They were a bunch of gun wankers having a yippee shoot.

    When people have yippee shoots, they are usually shooting at something. An animal, tin cans, etc.
    Even gun wankers are not in the habit of firing rounds into the darkness with no particular aim, especially when the bullets are not cheap.

    You have a habit of hearing explosions and gun fire at great distances. Were they really that close?

  56. Rex Anger

    once a gun wanker always a gun wanker.

    So that’s why you rendered yourself such an unemployable twat, that you had to be banished back to Nui Dat, Jack. Handling a weapon was utter anathema to you.

    Here we are, fixed your latest moronic Communist denunciation for you:

    once a Jack Hunt always a Jack Hunt

  57. Mater

    To do that you would need to put all nursing homes, their residents and staff into permanent quarantine forever or at least until a vaccine is developed. The current model of aged care would have to be completely revamped. You might even have to pay staff in residential institutions the full value of their work, rather than forcing them to work multiple shifts across a range of locations to earn a living wage. You might also need to employ some actual registered nurses in what are euphemistically called “nursing” homes. In addition, people with disabilities in group homes and residential institutions would have to be protected in the same way.

    And it would have still been infinitely cheaper (both financially and socially) than this all-encompassing “strict lockdown”.
    Idiot.

  58. rickw

    No. No you do not get to ask for privacy for your members. What you should have done is posted a photo of the rest of your members, at the gates to Killarney, all with shovels.

    Exactly, hang the idiots out. They are not “members” if they did this sort of shit.

  59. Rex Anger

    In answer to your question, it’s not just insane, but criminally insane. It resembles the NAZIs solution to the “Joowish problem”.

    He who Godwins first, loses, Jack Hunt.

    In the name of the almighty dollar, every knee shall bend.

    Your beloved Communism has done a far better job at coercing and tyrannising people during this crisis than yourbhated capitalism ever will. Comrade Maximum LockDab, whom you constantly shillfor, is no capitalist- He’d have never made Leftwit factional champion in VikLabor, let alone preselection, if he was.

    Now didi mau and go fellate your cardboard cutout of LockDan, dong chi. It is the only approved and COVIDSafe way to express your devotion…

  60. Eyrie

    Arky, if you need to lose 33Kg, Mrs Eyrie would regard you as a target rich environment.
    Check out dietdoctor.com/lowcarb/success-stories/men-40/all
    You do not need to feel hungry or give up eating well. The weight will fall off. We’ve been doing low carb for 6 years now. Both lost 10%+ of original body weight easily. Now both stable +/-1 Kg when measured on same scales at same time in the morning. Mrs Eyrie is a delightful 48 to 49 Kg. I’m 68Kg.

  61. Mater

    They were a bunch of gun wankers having a yippee shoot.

    Hmmmm….

    1735099
    #2976038, posted on March 31, 2019 at 9:46 pm

    Hey Bobby, who supplied your weapons on the NRA range in VA?

    The NRA.
    I phoned the range when we arrived in Washington, explaining that we were Australian tourists looking to shoot. I had been on a promise to my son about this for years, when he was denied the opportunity when we were in Vietnam to have a yippee at the Chu Chi tunnels when a Korean committed suicide with an AK47 the day before we got there. His disappointment was tangible.

  62. Cassie of Sydney

    “It resembles the NAZIs solution to the “Joowish problem”.”

    Something the racist knows all about and supports.

  63. Eyrie

    Exactly, hang the idiots out. They are not “members” if they did this sort of shit.

    Doesn’t the SSAA have a provision to expel people who “bring the organisation into disrepute”?

  64. Boambee John

    They were a bunch of gun wankers having a yippee shoot.

    So a bit like the bin chicken?

    Failed in one attempt to have a yippee shoot in Veitman, succeeded in a second attempt in “the land of the shooting spree”!

  65. Mater

    Without these reforms, this suggestion is simply writing off a large segment of the population as disposable, identical morally to full term abortion.
    In answer to your question, it’s not just insane, but criminally insane. It resembles the NAZIs solution to the “Joowish problem”.

    Then it is indeed fortunate for me that I wrote in my plan;“Protect all vulnerable individuals from exposure using best possible means”, isn’t it?

  66. rickw:
    The A2A for today strikes a chord.
    What’s that saying? When the people have guns, the government is docile.
    When only the government has guns, the people had better be docile.

  67. Cassie of Sydney

    “Mater
    #3600768, posted on September 29, 2020 at 8:22 am
    They were a bunch of gun wankers having a yippee shoot.”

    Thanks Mater….I remembered the racist writing about his “shooting excursion” in the land of the shooting spree. I guess it takes a wanker to know a wanker…it certainly takes a racist to know a racist…and he excels at both.

  68. pete m

    went travelling. got head colds from kids. wife now lost sense of smell. i work with someone with high risk factor for covid so need to have wife get test. she will have to go into iso now and i can’t go into work until result known

    normally would be fine but fear a false positive and all that means to us

    don’t mind being careful for sake of work colleague but will be fun doing contact tracing given our travels for last week – up to whitsundays etc.

  69. mh

    Today’s National Police Remembrance Day march in Brisbane was cancelled due to Coronavirus.

    Yet the police stand and watch BLM and ER protestors march through the city.

  70. rickw

    rickw:
    The A2A for today strikes a chord.

    Thanks Winston, that one was a bit edgier given the Vikpol image. Good to have some feedback.

    There was some sensible dialogue on the matter which suddenly disappeared. I guess stuff like that happens when operating on a communist platform. Also potentially some users deleted their comments after dialogue and realising that the meme was pretty much spot on.

  71. rickw

    If you had access to a Lancaster, why wouldn’t you do it?

    That is the coolest thing I’ve seen in a long while!!!

  72. Dave in Marybrook

    The left MSM are feeding a line to the God Emperor, about his 2016-17 tax return.
    Stands up at debates-
    “I was running to be the greatest president ever, and I had every intention of winning, just like we’re winning all over again soon very soon let me tell you. 2016 we won, 2017 was my inauguration wow what a huge crowd, no-body at the NYT wanted to tell you the numbers of how many people turned out, so I recused myself of all business advantages, because that’s not presidential, I can’t be seen as corrupt, nobody wants that, although that’s what you get from the Clinton empire or that billionaire Trot Bernie Sanders, what a guy can you believe that? Why doesn’t he spend a few of his billion dollars on his own hair? And everybody knows I’ve donated my entire presidential salary to charity, I gave a lot to veterans, I’m giving a lot to firefighters, to police charities, they need it much more than me, I’ve done very well for a number of years, our service men and women are losing their healthcare choices thanks to Obama and they’re being defunded thanks to the incompetent Democrat governors who are letting their cities burn and throwing our men in uniform to the mob! We’re doing a fantastic job draining the swamp and making America great again, we’re working every day, and we’re not doing it for the money, we’re doing it for you”

  73. Mother Lode

    Poor Rowe has left our shores again.

    Yup. And when it turns out to be a great big nothing burger he will keep the references in his cartoons every day. The characters over time become increasingly burdened and obscured by all these old jokes that have been heaped on them.

    Bill Leak could draw Trumble as Louis XIV one day, a clown the next, and train driver the next. Rowe cannot do that. His drawings with their stale old jokes covering them like grime in a bathtub means he cannot cast them as anything else.

    But I suppose that might be because he is so wretched at caricatures. He has to put the Twitter crown and regal robe on a naked man holding a mobile phone to make a Trump.

    Broelman, with his unerring insight, has learned of the farce in Victorian Labor and made his cartoon about the Federal Libs.

  74. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “A2A”?

    A complete garbled unnecessary mystery. Even Urban Dictionary is no help.

    A man needs to cart round an an interpreter to negotiate his way through the day.

  75. Snoopy

    Elder Russell Butler was concerned that predominately white vigilantes were chasing mostly Indigenous youths.

    “It makes the ones who aren’t offending at all very aware … they can’t go up the street to the local shop,” he said.

    “They’re afraid to.”

    What a pity TheirABC didn’t think to ask police about the numbers of innocent indigenous youth bashed by white vigilantes on their way to the shop.

    Nevertheless it’s useful to have confirmation that the only indigenous youth out on the streets at night are up to no good.

  76. notafan

    Most nursing homes in Melbourne (And they are all private either for profit or NGO) have avoided covid19 with good infection control.

    As soon as borders reopen covid19 will be back. Nor is a vaccine a silver bullet for covid.

    Every year the frail elderly in nursing homes die of contagious diseases, this one is not extra special. Improvements in infection control should be permanent but visiting should be reintroduced.

    Families need to discuss with their parents what is more important to them, living in isolation, perhaps for a few extra months or taking a managed risk to spend time with loved ones.

    And you numbers, and other totalitarians should myob.

  77. calli

    Ahahah!

    The morning Bimbo Panel on Seven Sunrise.

    The consensus on the quarantine debacle and Andrews’ blatant lying about his knowledge of the ADF offer:

    “There will be learnings”

    Many…many noddings and smuggings. Another free pass.

  78. calli

    Mick, I may be wrong, but I took it as “Australian Second Amendment”, ie. the right to possess and bear arms.

  79. using best possible means

    The NAZIs were also very efficient.

  80. Old School Conservative

    will sure give TooBob a morning boner

    He’s 70ish.
    Let’s not make too many assumptions.

  81. Calli is quite right.
    There’s a movement to demand an Australian 2nd Amendment because we have just had evidence about how helpless we are up against a government who can be demonstrably proven to have lost its marbles.

    OK, it’s only rickw and me at the moment, and a couple of others, but we hope to get bigger.

  82. lotocoti

    “There will be learnings”

    Learnings always makes me want to engage in some cultural appropriation.
    These goniff. Always with the learnings.

  83. calli

    As soon as borders reopen covid19 will be back. Nor is a vaccine a silver bullet for covid.

    Yes.

    And by “back”, some people will fall ill and others will just live their lives as asymptomatic. That’s most likely happening now anyway. People have woken up to the “testing” scam and rates are plummeting, much to the chagrin of our rulers. Hence the “complacency” warning.

    As for the frail elderly, they must be given the option of living out what remains of their lives in loneliness and longing for their families or taking their chance with a stray infection. Anything less denies them their basic right to freedom of choice.

  84. Bruce of Newcastle

    As soon as borders reopen covid19 will be back. Nor is a vaccine a silver bullet for covid.

    Nota – Exactly. There’s also this one in the Paywallian* today:

    Flu-related hospital admissions plummet from 900 to just 1 in Brisbane, thanks to COVID (29 Sep)

    Brisbane’s major public hospitals have had a dream run this winter with just one admission for influenza compared to more than 900 a year ago.

    The remarkable and very welcome decline in flu-related admission comes after zealous coronavirus-inspired hygiene and social distancing and severe restrictions on indoor gatherings.

    Just about everyone would think that keeping flu out is impossible. We already have vaccines, yet without a bat crud style lockdown there’re normally 900 admissions to Brisbane hospitals. So as soon as the lockdown is eased the Chinese bat crud will be back in like Flynn, even when the vaccines are rolled out.

    So what’re the pollies going to do when the inevitable happens?

    (* not paywalled atm, although that may change)

  85. Mother Lode

    He’s 70ish.
    Let’s not make too many assumptions.

    In a socialist Utopia, the government would make sure there was someone provided to have the boner for you.

    In a socialist reality there would just be long lines of whining curmudgeons clutching their copy of Workers Victory News with its Rowe cartoon. Each one waiting in for their turn to have some diseased man about 5 years younger than they, trying to rally himself with an old sock.

  86. lotocoti

    One of the greatest blessings of the twentieth century was the chaotic inefficiency of the NSDAP.

  87. Tel

    So what’re the pollies going to do when the inevitable happens?

    Blame Trump … blame capitalism … blame anyone but themselves.

    Double down, because it’s all they know.

  88. Cassie of Sydney

    “The NAZIs were also very efficient.”

    Tell us more racist.

  89. notafan

    Vulnerable people who live independently are the ones with primary, if not sole responsibility for their health.

    If you are in that category then you do what you think is appropriate. Don’t demand every else live permanently curtailed lives so you can swan around the shopping centre for three hours a day.

    You wash your hands, you wear a mask, you socially distance, you stay in your hermetically sealed car and you should be fine.

  90. calli

    I have friends who seriously touted the idea of road blocking the only road onto the peninsula. To keep pox-ridden Sydney siders and Novocastrians out for the holidays.

    What makes you think that people who live here don’t have Covid? sez I to much consternation. They had never imagined asymptomatic “sufferers” could be in our midst.

    Now on high alert for the slightest sniffle or throat clearing. A proliferation of sharpened stakes and pyres are anticipated in the coming weeks. 🙂

  91. calli

    We have a culprit for the Melbourne quarantine at last, according to Seven News.

    Miss Communication. Apparently she made creeping assumptions.

  92. Roger

    One of the greatest blessings of the twentieth century was the chaotic inefficiency of the NSDAP.

    One of the greatest blessings of the 20th C. was that in his mind Hitler was refighting WWI and opened a second front against Russia.

  93. rickw

    QF A380’s on the way to Boneyard in California.

    Rampant government destruction of everything.

  94. feelthebern

    It’s critical for the US to overall their NFP laws.
    But it will never ever happen.
    Uncle Warren, Bill Gates, Clinton Crime Cartel will never allow it to happen.

  95. Old School Conservative

    A proliferation of sharpened stakes and pyres are anticipated in the coming weeks.

    Funny and true.
    The constant barrage from politicians and “health” officers about case numbers, death numbers, product scarcity, non-touching rules, isolation requirements, and large gathering restrictions have led to a major shift in our society.
    Selfishness, suspicion, and aggression are now the norm.
    How that is overturned is anybody’s guess.

  96. Mother Lode

    Lest we forget

    But…but…isn’t this just the state protecting Australians from their fellow citizens, whom they have been encouraged to view with suspicion and as a threat?

  97. notafan

    Osc I don’t know

    I think it’s the usual suspects with another bow in their all about me quivers.

    They complained about damn foreigners last year too, just different reasons.

  98. notafan

    Gregory leave out the non existent bits and you make a lot of sense.

    Are all virii non existent, or is it just this one?

    What is you view on say influenza, bubonic plague or smallpox?

  99. Roger

    They complained about damn foreigners last year too, just different reasons.

    How many are originally from Sydney?

  100. (not from this virus because it doesn’t exist but they still die anyway)

    The virus that doesn’t exist..

    This virus?
    Or
    This virus?
    Or
    This virus?
    Are you sure you exist – or are you, like the (apparently) non-existent virus, a figment of the imagination?

  101. Rex Anger

    Are you sure you exist – or are you, like the (apparently) non-existent virus, a figment of the imagination?

    W esure know that you aren’t, Jack Hunt. And it is a grievous puece of knowledge.

    An individual as obnoxious, moronic and utterly impervious to reality as you could not be imagined by even the most evil of literary genii.

    Much like so many of the tyrannical policies foisted upon innocent Australians by accountability-shy bugmen, ideological fanatics, Fellow Travellers and LockDrones, apparebtly you just are.

  102. calli

    OSC, further to your comment, Rafe has put up a post – The New Religion of Fear.

    That’s what it is, disciples, dogma, penalties for unbelief, hatred of the “other”.

    There is something that drives out fear, but it takes a seismic shift of the soul.

  103. cohenite

    Victoria and Israel have had very similar experiences.

    The anti-semitic troll lying again.

  104. Oh come on

    Now we have Trump’s tax returns, we will find irrefutable evidence that he has been quid pro quo-ing favours for roubles, right?

  105. Mater

    1735099
    #3600798, posted on September 29, 2020 at 8:55 am

    using best possible means

    The NAZIs were also very efficient.

    Let us review the entire sentence before Bob did the leftie thing.

    Mater
    #3380938, posted on March 28, 2020 at 3:09 pm
    Ok. So Bob thought my ‘Key Point Defence’ option this morning (06:40) was insane.
    Let me explain it in a little more detail

    Action:

    Protect all vulnerable individuals from exposure using best possible means…

    You’re a fucking lowlife, Bob. A complete disgrace.

  106. Bruce of Newcastle:

    So as soon as the lockdown is eased the Chinese bat crud will be back in like Flynn, even when the vaccines are rolled out.
    So what’re the pollies going to do when the inevitable happens?

    Same as before, Bruce. They will sit on their arses, make placating noises, and just hope it doesn’t get out of control.
    Remember that this is precisely what the majority of Catallaxians predicted 9 months ago if the government went for an eradication goal.

  107. Oh come on

    We will surely find Saddam’s WMDs in Trump’s tax returns, too.

  108. notafan

    Roger

    The ABC actually ran an article about a Melbourne based somebody (obviously a friend of the ABC) holed up with his partner on his Mansfield hobby farm complaining about other Melbournians coming up to Mansfield to do ‘property maintenance’ on their properties.

  109. Oh come on

    I wonder what else will be found in the Trump tax returns. Harold Holt, alive and well? The wreckage of MH370? Maybe even Joe Biden wandering around, talking to pot plants? Got away from his carers again.

  110. lotocoti

    Now we have Trump’s tax returns, we will find irrefutable evidence that he has been quid pro quo-ing favours for roubles, right?

    No such luck, I’m afraid.
    Such is his criminal cunning, that he’s funnelled all that Moscow money through a whole host of stolen identities associated with prominent democrat families.

  111. thefrollickingmole

    Wang goes in the middle of nowhere.
    Camps in a spastic position.
    Shooters come shooting
    Wang makes itself known.
    Shooters stop shooting.

    I have a similar story of a contractor who fucked up and started shooting holes in the shearing quarters when he went out in the scrub to sight in his new rifle.
    But I tell it as a funny anecdote rather than an existential whine.

  112. notafan

    All disease is imaginary.
    Are you a devotee of Mary Baker Eddy?

  113. Oh come on

    The Nazis were efficient. You are efficient. Therefore, you are a Nazi.

    Numpty clearly didn’t read that copy of Logical Fallacies for Dummies he was sent.

  114. Roger

    Nota,

    Localism is found everywhere, particularly in reginal and rural Australia, but the militancy of setting up roadblocks suggests a different mindset in operation here.

  115. JC

    Mollie: New York Times’ Trump Tax Return ‘Bombshell’ Is A Joke

    It’s not a joke, it’s a poisonous attempt to make something out of nothing. To even compare an average tax return to a billionaire’s with many business ventures is just evil intentioned because it’s lying and distorting.

    The problem is that 80% of the population has no idea what profit compared to cash flow means. They think it would mean the same thing. It may impact the election, but don’t know. Rassie is already suggesting it’s hit Trump’s polling.

    Just fucking evil. The US should split.

    I bet this came out from the Southern District of NY DA’s office. It’s a very serious crime.

  116. Frank

    Mother Lode
    #3600809, posted on September 29, 2020 at 9:06 am

    Thanks for that image. No really, thanks so much.

  117. JC

    The Southern District is a RICO operation and should be treated that way.

    Here’s the issue. If Trump’s returns were leaked from that office as I’m 100% sure it was. That’s not even speculation it a certainty as night follows day.. at the very least those in charge of that office should be immediately fired. If they didn’t leak their subordinates did making them responsible.

  118. JC

    And just at the exact time, the leak was published by the NYTimes the Hiden campaign comes out with bumper stickers highlighting Trump’s tax returns. Just fucking evil.

  119. johanna

    calli
    #3600691, posted on September 29, 2020 at 6:31 am

    For the curious, the illustrated synopsis of the Book of Job that Rickw posted last night is well worth a look.

    In Pre-Cambrian times, it was listed for study in 1st Year Literature at uni. Imagine doing that now. The point of the study wasn’t really about content, just structure of literature from antiquity through to the present day. At the other end of the time-line was Woolfe’s Mrs Dalloway. Somewhere in the middle we waded through Paradise Lost.

    Dreadful Patriarchal, White Supremacist stuff.

    Tell me about it.

    At the ANU in 1972, I was introduced to Gerald Manley Hopkins who was (OMG) a Catholic priest.

    Also in the stratosphere of great poets writing in English.

    Glory be to God for dappled things …

  120. thefrollickingmole

    In “no shit Sherlock” news…

    Australian ministers increasingly bypassing parliament to create laws, study finds
    Delegated legislation has doubled in 30 years, with ministers now deciding ‘who is eligible for jobkeeper or what a $40bn fund is spent on’

    ..
    Australian ministers are increasingly bypassing parliament to create laws, new research shows, prompting warnings of a “dramatic” concentration of power in the hands of the executive.

    Analysis from the Centre for Public Integrity suggests the use of delegated legislation – the passing of laws by ministers or other office-holders, rather than through parliament – has doubled in the past 30 years.

    Delegated legislation was passed 872 times each year on average between 1983 and 1988.

    That number rose to 1,738 on average each year between 2013 and 2018.

    Delegated legislation is often necessary. It has enormous value in reducing delays when adjusting small administrative details and creating flexibility in areas of law that are likely to be subject to frequent change.

    No its not, its anathema to liberty.

    Delegated legislation is able to be scrutinised through bodies such as the Senate Standing Committee for the Scrutiny of Delegated Legislation and can, in most cases, be overturned by parliament using an effective veto power.

    Parliament can nullify delegated legislation by using its powers of disallowance or by passing primary legislation.

    But in some cases such disallowance is not possible, including for powers related to the current Covid-19 health emergency.

    Relatively recent changes to the Biosecurity Act gave the health minister sweeping new coercive powers when a human biosecurity emergency has been declared.

    Such powers include restricting movements, closing businesses and evacuating certain locations.

    Those powers are not disallowable, despite the huge impact they can have on Australians’ lives.

    “In practice, the health minister or delegated officials could require the closure of premises such as shopping centres or sporting facilities,” University of Newcastle legal and human rights experts Amy Maguire and Bin Li wrote in March. “The potential restrictions could have a far-reaching impact on people’s daily lives.”

  121. Makka

    the NYTimes the Hiden campaign comes out with bumper stickers highlighting Trump’s tax returns.

    IR are all over Trump. He has been audited up the kazoo for years. So anyone can assume that whatever his return is, it’s legit.

    This is a big mistake from Biden I reckon. Now, his son’s very dodgy dealings with China are fair game. Let’s see how Trump hits back. Like so many things the Dems do, this is another own goal.

  122. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Four Victorian ministers, 16 public servants may face prosecution over alleged OHS law breachesRobert GottliebsenFollow @BGottliebsen

    2 hours ago September 29, 2020

    Acting in the national interest, a group of Australia’s top occupational health and safety lawyers has painstakingly trawled through the transcripts of the Jennifer Coate inquiry to discover which ministers and public servants may have breached Victorian Occupational Health and Safety (OHS) law.

    They have concluded that four ministers, 16 public servants, the state of Victoria, four departments and the Trades Hall Council should be prosecuted.

    It is a stunning conclusion from the Coate inquiry evidence. If the prosecutions are launched it would drastically change the government structure of Victoria.

    Under Victorian law, as set out by the 2004 Steve Bracks OHS act, citizens can request WorkSafe to prosecute individuals.

    An inquiry into Victoria’s quarantine program has singled out three top bureaucrats over major communication failures, labelling the failed scheme a “seeding ground”…

    Accordingly, acting on the advice of the lawyers, the executive director of Self-Employed Australia, Ken Phillips, has written to WorkSafe requesting the prosecutions.

    Never before in the nation’s history has such a detailed and comprehensive set of prosecution requests ever been made.

    But we are dealing with the worst industrial workplace accident in the nation’s history. More than 700 people have died, large numbers have been infected by the coronavirus as a result of governmental errors and bungles, and untold damage inflicted on the Victorian — and Australian — economies.

    Accordingly, it does require actions that were never, ever contemplated by those who framed OHS laws.

    WorkSafe chief Colin Radford must reply to the Phillips letter either stating that he will lodge prosecutions or, if not, Radford must state the reasons why he is not proceeding.

    Radford does not have an easy task because he is a former press secretary to premiers Steve Bracks and John Brumby, and he knows well and is friends with many of those he is being asked to prosecute.

    There is no reason why Radford can’t undertake the task because it will be the courts — not Radford — that must decide guilt or innocence. But if Radford feels he is too conflicted, then he should stand down.

    Under the act, if WorkSafe will not prosecute, then Phillips can then put the same request to the Director of Public Prosecutions Kerri Judd QC, who also must either prosecute or set out her reasons. The reasons will need to be very good given the magnitude of the disaster. Radford is launching his own inquiry and he has much greater power than Coate and may discover much more evidence, which could result in further prosecutions.

    Bring it on!

  123. Mark A

    Some incomprehensible stuff here on the blog this morning.😒

  124. JC

    Makka

    We’re almost 4 years into Trump’s term. There’s been one single indictment over the wussies hoax.

    Look, if Ted Bundy was a senior Demon he wouldn’t be indicted. Laws don’t apply to demons even with a GOP president.

  125. JC

    Also applies is Oz too. If a business killed 800 people the board, CEO and senior operational execs would be facing life sentences. Hunchback gets a pass. The taxeaters get passes.

  126. thefrollickingmole

    Welfare will make us all rich!!!

    Top economists say boosting social housing and jobseeker key to Australia’s prosperity

    These people have been severely educated.
    Beyond all repair.

    “Why not building a massive dam in Australia? Why not building a new Sydney Symphony Orchestra building like the Berlin Philharmonie? Why not expand the national parks? Why not building green libraries all over Australia?” asked Sydney University’s Stefanie Schurer.
    ..

    They have all the submissions by the “top men” at the bottom as well as the names.

    No Doomykins…

  127. Roger

    Acting in the national interest, a group of Australia’s top occupational health and safety lawyers has painstakingly trawled through the transcripts of the Jennifer Coate inquiry to discover which ministers and public servants may have breached Victorian Occupational Health and Safety (OHS) law.

    You see, lawyers can serve the public good occasionally.

    Pass the popcorn, will you?

  128. notafan

    Roger exactly what I overheard in country supermarket. Same people more ammunition.

    And the country cafe with a sign threatening to shoot Melbournians will never have it’s doors darkened by my family again, city or country.

  129. thefrollickingmole

    Thats scribbler who won the Archibald must be an amazing tallent.

    Hes won $100,000 previously.

    Close Contact (2018)
    Close Contact was the winner of the Ramsay art prize in 2019, a $100,000 prize awarded to an artist under 40
    https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2020/sep/28/vincent-namatjiras-cheeky-revenge-the-archibald-prize-winners-past-work-in-pictures

    If you were in any doubt about the depth and stunning artistic ability of this chap… these pics will reassure you your first impressions were correct.

  130. Makka

    Laws don’t apply to demons even with a GOP president.

    Yes agree, but in terms of the election I doubt the tax angle with Trump has legs with anyone outside the Demrat bubble. Who loves Internal revenue anyway?

    However, Hunter Biden’s activities in China are very dirty. Trump will find a way to join Hunter, China and the virus. Now, that would have real legs with indies and swingers. That’s why I say it’s another own goal to the Dems. They are better at that than the IRA.

  131. Makka

    Radford is launching his own inquiry and he has much greater power than Coate and may discover much more evidence, which could result in further prosecutions.

    That’s news.

    They have concluded that four ministers, 16 public servants, the state of Victoria, four departments and the Trades Hall Council should be prosecuted.

    Until we see the charge sheet, this is just wishful thinking for now. But very good progress.

  132. Some History

    If you were in any doubt about the depth and stunning artistic ability of this chap… these pics will reassure you your first impressions were correct.

    His work follows this unmistakable style:

    https://imgur.com/8uJigJn

  133. Tom

    Plovers are the ugliest creatures God ever put breath into. I have a couple of them raising their (admittedly cute) spring chicks at my place. Mum and dad are behaving like a couple of SJW untouchables, squawking incessantly, staring accusingly at the humans and stalking us.

    My hatred of plovers is a lifelong thing. The little pricks used to love dive-bombing us as kids. They’re lucky they’re as inedible as they are ugly – unlike quail, who are not only delicious, but as quiet as mice, except for the whirring of their wings on takeoff.

  134. Arky

    Woken up at the ungodly hour of 9:30 this morning by the dog barking at some bastard knocking at the door.
    “Oh no, I’ve inadvertently incited someone online and it’s detectives at my door”? Nope.
    Young bloke from down the road has clipped me car mirror.
    Driving his flatbed with a load of old fencing hanging out the left side.
    Poor sod.
    My neighbour, a retired insurance assessor, who gives me unasked for long lectures on insurance, has been at him in overdrive, explaining that he can’t drive the truck loaded like that and all the insurance related calamities that will befall him if he does.
    Young dude is, by the time I get pants on and down to the road, pretty agitated.
    We decide he should borrow my circular saw and an extension lead and cut the excess fencing off to restore legality.
    I get the saw and lead. Then I realise he wants to do the sawing outside my place and plug in here, despite the fact that his place is only 50 metres down the road, but there are roadworks in between blocking the road, then tells me he’s never used a circular saw before.
    With visions of the saw kicking back and taking his arm off, I tell him to unload the truck and reload the load properly instead of sawing the excess off.
    He asks if he can unload it on my nature strip. Uh, Ok. And leave it there until tomorrow. Wait. What? No!
    You know, if it wasn’t for all the restriction bullshit I would just have done it myself.
    Get this: The nuggety roadworker holding the “Stop” sign between our places is taking photos of the whole proceedings and carrying on like a big girly Karen.

  135. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Until we see the charge sheet, this is just wishful thinking for now. But very good progress.

    The latest is that “Public service chiefs failed to keep their Ministers informed…” You thought “Yes Minister” was fiction…

  136. Barry

    I expect that there will be a massive about face on the death toll.

    All 800 will be found to have died from their pre-existing conditions.

    The massive deception around the real scale of COVID deaths (i.e. very few) will be revealed, but only because the Ministers and hangers-on are threatened

  137. thefrollickingmole

    Some History

    If only shed entered that into the Archibalds.

  138. Bruce of Newcastle

    Now we have Trump’s tax returns, we will find irrefutable evidence that he has been quid pro quo-ing favours for roubles, right?

    Surely they will find the $3.5 million that was transferred from the wife of the ex Mayor of Moscow just before Russia took over Crimea.

    Oh wait, that wasn’t Trump.

    Hunter Biden received $3.5M wire transfer from Russian billionaire: Senate report (23 Sep)

    Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the richest woman in Russia and the widow of Yury Luzhkov, the former mayor of Moscow, Senate Republicans revealed in their report on the younger Biden’s work in Ukraine.

    Baturina is referenced in the 87-page report, which was released Wednesday, addressing her payment to Biden’s investment firm in early 2014.

    The transfer was made on 14 Feb (see p 69 of the Senate report). The Russians took Crimea on 27 Feb.

    Weird how the NYT seems to’ve completely forgotten to mention any of this.

  139. incoherent rambler

    Miss Communication.

    Nope. It was the simple one.

    Miss Appropriation.

  140. Mother Lode

    IR are all over Trump. He has been audited up the kazoo for years. So anyone can assume that whatever his return is, it’s legit.

    That was how I took it when they tried the ‘taxes’ thing last time. If the swamp had been able to find anything they would have used the information already.

    What they are counting on is people not being familiar with the principles involved in taxation at the level that Trump’s dealings encounter it. Most people have their own straightforward returns with simple deductions. The intention is to dampen his supporters enthusiasm by making him look shifty.

    Trump just needs to find a simple way to explain it – show the absurdity of not having deductions.

    Look at Australia where people moan about the diesel rebate as ‘subsidising fossil fuels’, or the ‘rip off’ that is negative gearing. And more than a few still believe in the Emma Alberici school of taxation theory.

  141. Dr Faustus

    They have concluded that four ministers, 16 public servants, the state of Victoria, four departments and the Trades Hall Council should be prosecuted.

    Surprising that the CEO and Board of Unified Security aren’t on the list too.
    In the normal course of a Worksafe issue, that would be the starting point – you don’t get to slip the hook by being a contractor.

    Must be a reason.

  142. incoherent rambler

    All 800 will be found to have died from their pre-existing conditions.

    That is worth a bet.
    What odds are on offer?

  143. Makka

    And this;

    Victoria’s bungled hotel quarantine scheme may be unlawful

    The detention of thousands of Australians in Melbourne’s COVID-19 hotel scheme may have been unlawful and a hybrid scheme that allows more travellers to quarantine at home should be considered an inquiry has heard.

    In closing submissions to the inquiry, counsel assisting Ben Ihle has made the shock claim that the failure to test the detainees for the virus and provide for their mental health needs raises serious questions over whether the detention was lawful.

    Mr Ihle also hinted at the possibility that the Victorian Government could face lawsuits from detainees who were locked up on the grounds that there may have been breaches of the state’s human rights laws.

  144. Oh come on

    The Southern District is a RICO operation and should be treated that way.

    Yes. It is almost unbelievable when you take a look at the people and organisations that they have gone after, and those that they haven’t.

    Steve Bannon’s charges are a classic example. You might think that since the alleged offences are said to have taken place entirely outside of Southern District’s geographical jurisdiction, they wouldn’t be investigating this. But no! They say that some people residing within their area donated to We Build The Wall, so they need to be on the case. Trouble is that, in their indictment, they don’t produce a single ‘victim’ claiming to have been swindled. SDNY just wanted to nail Bannon and the wall guy, and that’s what they set out to do. It was a fishing expedition.

    Imagine all of the federal financial crimes that take place in Manhattan alone. SDNY DAs don’t bother with these so much. But Martha Stewart – man, better check her out and find something to pin on her.

  145. Tom
    #3600901, posted on September 29, 2020 at 10:38 am
    Plovers…

    We had a pair that nested right in the middle of our log yard every year. The loader drivers would put a circle of star poles with netting around to keep them safe while they unloaded and loaded log trucks.

    They used to swoop the blokes measuring the sample loads.

  146. calli

    The plovers are nesting here, too. They swoop me as I walk along, thinking they can frighten me off. I eyeball them as they come in for the kill, and they pull up fast with a squawk. The other morning one was going about its usual antics and was swooped in its turn by one of my “northern” magpies.

    I have an ally, but only because of delicious mince. Never swoop the hand that feeds you.

  147. rickw

    Four Victorian ministers, 16 public servants may face prosecution over alleged OHS law breaches

    Ha ha!!! Lock them up please!!!

  148. William the Conjuror

    There’s a movement to demand an Australian 2nd Amendment …
    …it’s only rickw and me at the moment, and a couple of others

    Lol. (sotto voce: boom, bang, pop, fizzzz)

  149. Bruce of Newcastle

    Never managed to get a plover to be friendly.
    I suppose that says something.
    The kids are nice though.

  150. Makka

    They have concluded that four ministers, 16 public servants, the state of Victoria, four departments and the Trades Hall Council should be prosecuted.

    The LNP should (if they have any stones) come out immediately and state that any changes to the Act from it’s present form that protect the culprits will be repealed if they get Govt. Otherwise, they too are complicit with Labor escaping retribution for this debacle.

  151. mh

    Woman plows car into Trump supporters; NY Times omits key detail

    NPR managed to figure out that the victims were Trump supporters, while the Times did not

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/car-trump-supporters-ny-times

  152. Geriatric Mayfly

    At the ANU in 1972, I was introduced to Gerald Manley Hopkins who was (OMG) a Catholic priest.Also in the stratosphere of great poets writing in English.

    Just another raptor. Should be said aloud and obey the commas and stops.

    I caught this morning morning’s minion, king-
    dom of daylight’s dauphin, dapple-dawn-drawn Falcon, in his riding
    Of the rolling level underneath him steady air, and striding
    High there, how he rung upon the rein of a wimpling wing
    In his ecstasy! then off, off forth on swing,
    As a skate’s heel sweeps smooth on a bow-bend: the hurl and gliding
    Rebuffed the big wind. My heart in hiding
    Stirred for a bird, – the achieve of, the mastery of the thing!

  153. rickw

    There’s a movement to demand an Australian 2nd Amendment …
    …it’s only rickw and me at the moment, and a couple of others

    Way more than that. Strategy and Tool kit being finalised.

  154. incoherent rambler

    They have concluded that four ministers, 16 public servants, the state of Victoria, four departments and the Trades Hall Council should be prosecuted.

    I’ll check. I might need another tumbril.

  155. dover_beach

    Today in Liberalism: Dad welcomes baby girl with daughter’s ex-boyfriend:

    A man who made headlines two decades ago as one of Britain’s first gay dads has welcomed a baby girl with his fiance – who used to date his now-grown daughter.

    Barrie Drewitt-Barlow, 50, got engaged to daughter Saffron’s ex-boyfriend Scott Hutchinson while on a family holiday in Croatia last month

    Saffron, who has a twin brother named Aspen, previously dated bisexual Scott before he fell for her dad.

    Now the pair have welcomed their first child together via surrogate, Valentina Willow Drewitt-Barlow.

  156. rickw

    Today in Liberalism:

    I need a diagram to understand that freaking mess. Poor kid.

  157. Slim Cognito

    Today in Liberalism: Dad welcomes baby girl with daughter’s ex-boyfriend:

    That is fecked up on so many levels. This is what happens when society removes all barriers of morality.

  158. feelthebern

    Patrick Mahomes is simply amazing.
    The stats he’s put up in the first half of this game are mind blowing.
    Ravens were about 1.50-1.60 to win.
    Chiefs blowing them off the park.

  159. feelthebern

    Lamar Jackson seems to have a problem delivering in big games.

  160. Patrick Mahomes is not of this earth bern.

  161. old bloke

    CANZUK

    What an awful acronym, I’d prefer CANZUKUS.

    It has some good points with regards to trade and travel, but I do have some reservations.

  162. zyconoclast

    dover_beach
    #3600932, posted on September 29, 2020 at 11:32 am
    Today in Liberalism: Dad welcomes baby girl with daughter’s ex-boyfriend:

    The great recruitment continues apace.

  163. rickw

    What an awful acronym, I’d prefer CANZUKUS.

    What about: CUKANZ?

    Does what it says on the box!

  164. zyconoclast

    CANZUK

    What an awful acronym, I’d prefer CANZUKUS.

    It has some good points with regards to trade and travel, but I do have some reservations.

    And Mrs Markle can be King.
    Harold will be her eunuch.

  165. feelthebern

    Chiefs $4.75 to win Superbowl.
    Ravens $7.50.
    Everyone else over $10.
    Based on this, the Chiefs will be shortest priced super bowel favourites after week 3 since the Patriots in 2007.

  166. Bruce of Newcastle

    Damning!! Said Seven of Trump’s tax returns. DAMNING!!!! Said Nein of Trump’s tax returns.
    Which is odd giving everything I’ve read so far suggests they are the exact opposite of “damning”.

  167. From the Hun:

    ‘A drug outreach worker at Melbourne’s first safe injecting site who was trafficking heroin outside the facility has immediately appealed his jail term.
    Matthew Honey was sentenced in Melbourne Magistrates Court on Monday to 12 months behind bars for trafficking heroin between September 5 and October 25 2019.
    The 50 year old pleaded guilty to trafficking heroin to people he knew around the Melbourne Safe Injecting Room Centre, his home and even outside a school in the area, the court was told.
    The drug trafficker immediately appealed the sentence and was granted bail.
    The Richmond man will face court next month.’

  168. thefrollickingmole

    The 50 year old pleaded guilty to trafficking heroin to people he knew around the Melbourne Safe Injecting Room Centre, his home and even outside a school in the area, the court was told.

    Apart from the undercover cops he didnt know and sold drugs to at the injecting rooms.
    Only time he ever did that for people who werent friends.
    With a small markup, almost cost price…

  169. William the Conjuror

    The Victoria hotel quarantine inquiry. Looking for scapegoats, same as the Ruby Princess Mass Release to Sydney and Beyond inquiry. Failing to do so. Glossed over, lessons learnt, a slap on the wrist or two. Both wastes of money and effort, even though the NSW “Special” Investigator did glare and say harsh words to potential scapegoats. Victoria should have gone for a full lockdown and virus elimination strategy right from the start. So should the rest of Australia.

  170. Bruce of Newcastle

    Dad welcomes baby girl with daughter’s ex-boyfriend

    Gay men can produce eggs now?
    News to me.
    Ain’t science grand or something.

  171. dopey

    I look up plover and find it’s a lapwing.

  172. Arky

    Only time he ever did that for people who werent friends.
    With a small markup, almost cost price…

    ..
    Let him sell drugs outside your front door, then get back to me after you’ve had the upteenth dead junkie removed from your front yard.
    I aren’t against drugs because I care about it’s health effects on the idiots using it, I care about it because I don’t like having the dirty fuckers cluttering up the streets.
    Death penalty for drug offences please. If you don’t like reality here fuck off somewhere else.

  173. rickw

    Victoria should have gone for a full lockdown and virus elimination strategy right from the start. So should the rest of Australia.

    Then what?

    Dumb as monkey shit.

  174. Arky

    If you don’t like reality here fuck off somewhere else.

    ..
    Or to the next one. Maybe the next existence will be kinder to losers.

  175. Today’s National Police Remembrance Day march in Brisbane was cancelled due to Coronavirus. not wanting to be pelted with rotten tomatoes.

    FIFY

  176. stackja

    TRUMP CONFESSES TO THE NY TIMES TAX STORY
    Have you heard—Donald Trump admits that he takes advantage of the tax code to minimize his taxes! And he’s even admitted it to the New York Times! Here’s the scoop:

    POSTED ON SEPTEMBER 28, 2020 BY STEVEN HAYWARD IN 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, DONALD TRUMP, TAXES

    The date of this scoop: October 10, 2016.

    I expect this issue may come up in the debate tomorrow night, and I hope that Trump will challenge Biden to give an answer as to why Biden apparently made no effort to reform the tax code during his 35 years in the Senate, and why the Obama-Biden administration did nothing about it when they had supermajorities in Congress 10 years ago.

    Funny the Times runs this story just now, isn’t it?

  177. Leigh Lowe

    Has George Pell “fled his accusers” yet?

  178. Leigh Lowe

    Jeez!!
    I just read that Jerry “Incontinence” Nadler had stomach reduction surgery earlier this year.
    Before surgery he weighed 338 pounds.
    That is around 150 Kgs.
    Jerry is 5 foot 4 inches tall.
    FMD.
    Even a very solidly built 5’4″ bloke shouldn’t weigh more than 80 Kgs, tops.

  179. dover_beach

    Chucky Schumer:

    Justice Ginsberg must be turning over in her grave up in Heaven.

    ROFL.

  180. feelthebern

    I won’t be happy until the ABC reports on Pell like this.

  181. mh

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #3600965, posted on September 29, 2020 at 12:17 pm
    Witness the incredible power of Denim Shorts.
    R U OK Police?

    Full disturbing video

  182. William the Conjuror

    Victoria should have gone for a full lockdown and virus elimination strategy right from the start. So should the rest of Australia.

    Then what?

    Then, we would be out of lockdowns and back to normal, managing any virus spotfires that arise. You’d even be able to drive your “employee” to and from Trentham without chancing a police road block.

    Dumb as monkey shit.

    I thought you were, letting “Matthew” video both sides of your drivers licence as you showed it to the friendly Stasi and your masked and bespectacled mug in close-up as you reached for the gear lever, and post it on Youtube.

  183. feelthebern

    Saying the 53 deaths in NSW is the same as the 794 deaths in Victoria is quite retarded.

  184. Now we have Trump’s tax returns, we will find irrefutable evidence that he has been quid pro quo-ing favours for roubles, right?

    I kid you not, Geraldine Doogue brought this up on ABC’s The Drum last night (she was the in-studio guest panellist)

    When the topic turned to Trumpy’s tax returns, Geraldine – with lots & lots of gesticulation and all sorts of gestures and facial expressions (seriously) marvelled at how there was no mention of payments from Russia, which “proved” Trump was in really really deep with Russia coz there was no trace whatsoever of payments, proving how deep the connection between Trump & Russia really is, that the payments are so well hidden.

    Seriously.

  185. calli

    I’ll check. I might need another tumbril.

    Got a tumbril and dog.

    All I need is a team of lusty, well-oiled Conservative yoof to pull it. Any available in Vicco?

  186. feelthebern

    The Chiefs have fallen asleep.
    The first 3 quarters were a master class on both sides of the ball.

  187. Leigh Lowe

    Sinclair Davidson
    #3600973, posted on September 29, 2020 at 12:28 pm
    Smite.

    T-t-t-test ??

  188. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    All I need is a team of lusty, well-oiled Conservative yoof to pull it. Any available in Vicco?

    I’m the holder of a Cert IV in use of the guillotine, and could pay my own fare from Western Australia?

  189. Rex Anger

    What’s a tumbril do?

    Is that like when you roll yourself off the top of a gently sloping hill? And you then take at leadt 20 minutes for your internal gyros to finish toppling?

    Sounds like fun!

  190. feelthebern

    The balls have not been smoten.

  191. Top Ender

    I note Trump DIDN’T fly in B-29 bombers in WWII.

    This therefore is proof he wimped out.

  192. Leigh Lowe

    dover_beach
    #3600932, posted on September 29, 2020 at 11:32 am
    Today in Liberalism: Dad welcomes baby girl with daughter’s ex-boyfriend:

    dover, it isn’t just the total weirdness of the spaghetti bowl relationships.
    It is the abject hypocrisy of these people who quack on about the inviolate sanctity of a woman’s right to control her reproductive processes, but in the same breath treat poor women (and surrogates are almost invariably disadvantaged women) as breeding sows for their vanity project “offspring”.

  193. Leigh Lowe

    All I need is a team of lusty, well-oiled Conservative yoof to pull it.

    Phrasing.

  194. feelthebern

    Tulsi promoting the Project Veritas work.
    I told you she was a good egg.

  195. calli

    Looks like he’s been “disappeared”, Nelson.

  196. Top Ender

    The Herald-Sun is running a headline: Hotel program the “worst failure’ in Victorian history.

    What other disasters have there been in Victoria?

    Going from memory, the 1919 Spanish Flu killed about 12,000 Aussies, and a big amount of them would have been in Victoria, given the population densities of the time.

  197. Oi! What’s happened to https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog?

    He went a bit off-the-rails last night, posted something that if you really analysed it to bits may have been less than 100% complimentary of a Democrat governor somewhere. Took some work to find it in amongst the car photos that dominate.

    I’ll speculate that when interrogated by twitter’s 22yo graduate moderator about his attitude, the response given may not have been one of shame, prostration before Twitter’s Gods, & promises to abolish wrongthink & to strive to do better.

    The election is getting close.

  198. incoherent rambler

    I’m the holder of a Cert IV in use of the guillotine,

    Pfft. I’m a fully qualified Headsman (1st class).

  199. Tim Neilson

    What other disasters have there been in Victoria?

    There may have been bigger disasters, but I’d pretty much agree that the hotel quarantine (or, rather, the whole COVID response) has been the biggest “failure”.

    Except for Meatloaf’s performance at the 2011 Grand Final.

  200. rickw

    Then, we would be out of lockdowns and back to normal, managing any virus spotfires that arise. You’d even be able to drive your “employee” to and from Trentham without chancing a police road block.

    International commerce and trade and travel?

    Oh, back into full lockdown, again and again and again…..

  201. William the Conjuror

    The Herald-Sun is running a headline: Hotel program the “worst failure’ in Victorian history.

    The Hun. Lol. The Vicco Inquiry is the same as the NSW Inquiry was. A strategy to temporarily deflect questions.

  202. rickw

    I thought you were, letting “Matthew” video both sides of your drivers licence as you showed it to the friendly Stasi and your masked and bespectacled mug in close-up as you reached for the gear lever, and post it on Youtube.

    Hilarious! You think that was a real license?! I live in the north, our swarthy new imports can get you any bit of plastic you need! You think I need to wear glasses?! Definitely some weirdo points for having this at hand….

  203. incoherent rambler

    Michael’s email address:

    Michael O’Brien MP – Leader of the Victorian Opposition <[email protected]>

    Clearly the position is temporary.

  204. jo

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3600983, posted on September 29, 2020 at 12:35 pm

    All I need is a team of lusty, well-oiled Conservative yoof to pull it. Any available in Vicco?

    I’m the holder of a Cert IV in use of the guillotine, and could pay my own fare from Western Australia?

    A while back when we were divvying up the Cat Government I bagsed the Lord High Executioners job. I seem to remember that I went one better than Trump and do the job for nothing, just the sheer joy of doing it. On my team nobody needs a Cert anything. The messier the better. Cats are allowed 10 free executions. Any improvisations will be met by prompt clap (golf style) from the gallery and the fore-mentioned attempt does not come off your free turn count. Others pay on a sliding scale of how pissed off the soon to be headless made me feel at the time. Each night the money goes on the bar of a salubrious establishment.

  205. To err is human. To really foul thing up, one needs a Victorian premier with a supercomputer.

  206. incoherent rambler

    improvisations will be met by prompt clap (golf style)

    At golf, do you have a slice?

  207. MUA up to shenanigans again I see. Ships being told to head to Melbourne to dock, apparently 20k of containers in backlog. Among those items is medicine.

  208. Miltonf

    Keeping up the tradition BB

  209. Thanks, SatP.

    NK-P, if I’d known he would disappear within 12 hrs I’d have screenshot it, though it wasn’t much & was quite funny, being done in his usual quirky comedic but realistic style.
    It was definitely out of the usual for him – to me anyway. It was nothing obtrusive or over the top, I didn’t give it another thought, beyond “that’s a little more political than usual from him”

    I’ll speculate: His acc0unt was under continuous close observation, sleeping giants style, for the slightest thing that could be reported to Twitter-police, so some acidic SJW moderator could zap him for “hate-speech”

    They’ll be getting desperate to close down any wrongthinkers who have a following, the election is only 5 weeks away.

  210. Mother Lode

    I expect this issue may come up in the debate tomorrow night, and I hope that Trump will challenge Biden to give an answer as to why Biden apparently made no effort to reform the tax code during his 35 years in the Senate, and why the Obama-Biden administration did nothing about it when they had supermajorities in Congress 10 years ago.

    He might also ask Biden how Heels-Up and himself were able to produce their new badges and decals so quickly when the story only appeared a day before – even if they knew there was a tax story coming how did they know what the story was going to be, and more to the point what the lie in the story was going to be: That Trump ‘supposedly’ only paid $1,500 over two years (Hence the buttons “I paid more tax than Trump) rather than claims of offshore accounts, remissions from dubious entities, or outright lies.

  211. Boambee John

    On another thread, m0nty is waxing eloquent about “competent leftist leadership”.

    Obviously doesn’t know the definition of gross incompetence.

    144 leftists!

  212. Mother Lode

    Has George Pell “fled his accusers” yet?

    Might be waiting to hear from the Bureau of Meteorology so he can leave Australia ‘under a cloud’.

  213. rickw

    Talking to Vikpol about William Wall:

  214. Mitch M.

    Here’s What Happens To Your Brain When You Quit Alcohol

    If you like the turps make sure you have adequate intake of Vit B1, thiamine, because alcohol strips it from the blood and an alcohol related dementia is about reduced B1+alcohol. It is worth thinking about taking a break from drinking. I know someone who doesn’t drink in February(because it is the shortest month) and he once told me he felt the difference at the end of the month.

  215. Cassie of Sydney

    “feelthebern
    #3600995, posted on September 29, 2020 at 12:44 pm
    Tulsi promoting the Project Veritas work.
    I told you she was a good egg.”

    I have always liked Tulsi.

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