Open Forum: September 26, 2020

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  1. Arky

    rickw
    #3601025, posted on September 29, 2020 at 1:18 pm
    What a shithole:

    ..
    Hang on Rick. I thought it was only Victoria that was a a totalitarian shithole getting everything it voted for and therefore deserved?

  2. twostix

    Then, we would be out of lockdowns and back to normal, managing any virus spotfires that arise. You’d even be able to drive your “employee” to and from Trentham without chancing a police road block.

    Everyone in Australia is doing that except the one retard state that went into maoist level “lockdown”.

  3. Roger

    Tulsi promoting the Project Veritas work.
    I told you she was a good egg.

    Trump should bring her into his new cabinet.

  4. old bloke

    And Mrs Markle can be King.
    Harold will be her eunuch.

    Harry already is a eunuch, poor bugger had to sell his shotguns.

    I can’t see any benefits from CANZUK, how would it work? Canada exports it wheat to Australia, and we export our wheat to Canada? We survive by exporting stuff to China, and they survive by exporting their manufactured stuff back to us.

    We will never be a manufacturing nation when our labour and energy costs are too high, and there’s nothing in CANZUK which will address that issue.

  5. twostix

    Why the hell would Australia do anything with Canada? It’s worse that California and Victoria combined!

  6. rickw

    Why the hell would Australia do anything with Canada? It’s worse that California and Victoria combined!

    CAN still has the option of shooting their way out, for the moment.

  7. Arky

    We survive by exporting stuff to China

    ..
    So we’re going to stay dependent on a communist totalitarian power that has every intension of being the only superpower and has no qualms about interferring in elections, corrupting officials and censoring citizens.
    Well.
    You better start learning mandarin then.

  8. Arky

    Remove China’s influence and money, and you might be surprised at the cultural changes within Western countries.
    Do nothing, or bleat that it’s all too hard, and by now you should understand where it’s heading.
    2020 should have learned you that, at least.

  9. rickw:
    WS

    There’s a movement to demand an Australian 2nd Amendment …
    …it’s only rickw and me at the moment, and a couple of others

    WtC

    Lol. (sotto voce: boom, bang, pop, fizzzz)

    rw

    Way more than that. Strategy and Tool kit being finalised.

    WS I was hoping to get a rise out of digits, but its boyfriend showed up instead.

  10. Mitch M.

    Arky
    #3601053, posted on September 29, 2020 at 1:52 pm
    Remove China’s influence and money, and you might be surprised at the cultural changes within Western countries.
    Do nothing, or bleat that it’s all too hard, and by now you should understand where it’s heading.
    2020 should have learned you that, at least.

    We bite the bullet now and disentangle from China or later we get, literally, the bullet from them.

  11. Arky

    The Anglophone countries MUST form tighter economic ties and form a common strategy to counter china.
    Or they will get picked off separately.

  12. woolfe

    My comment in the Paywallian which no doubt will be censored by the 12 year old moderators.

    Hey Scott I don’t want to go to NZ, I want to go to visit my daughter who is a nurse in Sydney and then return to WA without being imprisoned for 14 days by orders of my state premier.

  13. notafan

    Spanish flu was not a government failure.

    Dan wins, hands down.

  14. Mitch M.

    Arky
    #3601059, posted on September 29, 2020 at 1:58 pm
    The Anglophone countries MUST form tighter economic ties and form a common strategy to counter china.
    Or they will get picked off separately.

    Arky it is more than that. A few days ago I watched a Caspian Report. China is having border arguments with most of its neighbours.

  15. notafan

    Black Ball, from where are ships going to Melbourne? Saw a couple waiting to get a berth yesterday but that happens all the time.

  16. Arky

    If we cannot have low cost manufacturing within our countries, then either we have to accept more expensive consumer goods and higher rates of saving (not the end of the world) or carve out special economic regions, or ally with a trustworthy rising economy, perhaps India.
    Those are the three feasible solutions I can see.

  17. Arky

    Yes Mitch, China is making it’s move and the mask is off.

  18. Zatara

    Tulsi promoting the Project Veritas work.
    I told you she was a good egg.

    Trump should bring her into his new cabinet.

    Look beyond the pretty face and her occasionally bucking the Dem party.

    According to her own plank she’s:
    Anti 2nd amendment
    Pro abortion
    Pro illegal immigration, in fact she blames it on the evil international actions of the US.
    Pro citizenship for DACA
    Pro 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave paid for by the govt
    Pro ‘slavery reparations’
    Pro free university
    Pro writing off of student debts
    Pro Medicare for all
    Pro slashing defense budget
    Anti mandatory minimum sentences
    Anti cash bail
    Anti nuclear power
    Etc.

    So, no. She doesn’t belong in a Trump cabinet.

  19. cohenite

    Zatara
    #3601068, posted on September 29, 2020 at 2:08 pm
    Tulsi promoting the Project Veritas work.
    I told you she was a good egg.

    Trump should bring her into his new cabinet.

    Look beyond the pretty face and her occasionally bucking the Dem party.

    Yep, she is the moderate wing of the demorats which means she would probably be in the hunchback’s cabinet. Nice tits though and a lovely smile.

  20. Struth

    This is what is obvious and provable.

    The numbers of deaths from Covid depends on the left wing arseholes reclassifying them.
    More are reclassified as covid in left wing states/countries.
    Across the world.
    There’s no more deaths than usual, they just reclassify them.
    Easily done and done for very good reasons according to the left.
    And there are a number of main reasons, , one being the west must be brought under strict control because of the Global warming it’s rampant capitalism caused.
    This covid is just the ticket, and is a blessing in disguise. Especially with Trump on the rise.

    Normal deaths are reclassified more in Victoria than NSW, for example.

    No one has died of it, it has never been proven.
    There’s just no proof.
    Cases are irrelevant and show clearly, the guilt of the government in constantly referencing them to enable this socialist coup d’etat.

    So here’s the theatre.
    The libs want to get Dan out so claim his incompetency killed 700 or so.
    Dan knew no one was dying with this disease and so he doled out the money to all the left wing orgs he could, like indigenous security. Everyone of his political mates, having a feast at the trough.
    Mates corruptly benefiting from socialism…..who’d a thunk it?
    Now he can’t let the cat out of the bag and say the deaths are all reclassified ordinary everyday nursing home deaths, so he’s got to wear this game.
    In the long run it doesn’t matter because the Libs have played party politics while actually causing more panic about a non deadly cold virus.
    Credlin and the like putting their party politics before their nation.
    In going down this path, they all get to call for lock downs here there and everywhere, and still keep alive this fraud and criminal hostage taking of millions, as is their want.
    By going for Dan in this fashion, they are denying the reality of the situation for party political ends.
    The truth is Dan’s mob killed no one that wouldn’t have died from catching any cold , and were on their last legs anyway.
    Both Labor, the Libs and the entire political class won’t entertain that truth for a second.

  21. twostix

    CAN still has the option of shooting their way out, for the moment.

    Not a chance. Dead canuck walking:

    Between 2011 and 2016, the majority of the approximately 1.2 million new immigrants who arrived in Canada, totalling 61.8 per cent, were born in Asia,

    Seven of the top 10 countries of birth for Canadian newcomers in 2016 are in Asia: the Philippines, India, China, Iran, Pakistan, Syria and South Korea.

    Immigrant children (those who were born outside Canada or have at least one foreign-born parent) are expected to make up 47.2 per cent of the population of residents under 15 by 2036

    In 50 years Canada today will be multiple countries.

  22. Gab, can you ask the Doomlord for a new open thread? This one gets the Cinderella treatment at midnight.

  23. My requests tend to fall on deaf ears. Perhaps my feet are objectionable in glass slippers.

  24. Makka

    But why would we not be able to have low-cost manufacturing in Australia?

    4 things;

    1) Ridiculously high energy costs
    2) Horrendous taxes
    3) Unions.
    4) Green and Red tape regulatory hellscape.

  25. jo

    notafan
    #3601061, posted on September 29, 2020 at 1:59 pm

    Spanish flu was not a government failure.

    Dan wins, hands down.

    Nota, it was in NZ when the returning pollies from signing the WWI armistice wouldn’t quarantine cause too important.

  26. notafan

    According to the conversation the precise source of the first infection in Melbourne, January 1919, was never discovered, most likely returning soldiers.

  27. notafan

    Looks like birdie is back.

  28. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Immigrant children (those who were born outside Canada or have at least one foreign-born parent) are expected to make up 47.2 per cent of the population of residents under 15 by 2036

    the death knell for western civilisation became irreversible in the 70s with the uni-party driving gender equality into the mainstream.

  29. rickw

    1) Ridiculously high energy costs
    2) Horrendous taxes
    3) Unions.
    4) Green and Red tape regulatory hellscape.

    That just about nails it. But I would also add Sovereign Risk to the equation now.

    The cost of labour is a small part of the total cost of a product. Manufacturers can absorb high labour costs if you get what you pay for. Eg. The wages of Korean ship builders are high, but in return you get a reliable, dedicated and skilled workforce.

  30. Top Ender

    What if Biden should snuff it while in office?

    …if, God forbid, he succumbs to the ravages of advancing mortality, it’ll be “Weekend at Bernie’s” at the White House, the crazed kids all running around getting their nefarious business done while Joe, rictus grin and Ray-Bans to the fore, is propped up behind the Resolute desk, a waxy symbol of implausible continuity. Given his near invisibility on the campaign trail these past few months, will anyone know the difference?

    AFR article. If anyone wants I can copy and paste the whole thing.

  31. cohenite

    A good career choice for a sheila with big thighs; imagine her hogtying and carting off the hunchback:

    BIG FEMALE BOUNTY HUNTER vs SMALL FEMALE FUGITIVE | Patty Mayo Kia:

    https://www.facebook.com/PattyMayo55/videos/2318317471746134

  32. rickw #3601025, posted on September 29, 2020 at 1:18 pm
    What a shithole:

    Just watched the whole video, twice.
    Was trying to find where Avi is over-egging the pudding, or where the bloke who got arrested – twice – was leaving out some key fact about the lead-up to his arrest.

    Can’t see where the lad went wrong.
    He wasn’t even pushing his luck by doing something provocative.

    NSWPlod were deliberate smart-arses with him. (Just like speed cops used to be – before bodycams & recording devices came out)
    There’s a fair chance the Plod didn’t realise he was wearing a clandestine bodycam.
    The female copper was waaaay over the top with the aggression & provocative language.

    Crikey, he’s a harmless lad who wouldn’t put a foot wrong, who’d never come to police attention.
    He’s a nice chap into the bargain & about as civil & accommodating as you could ever want.

    So the cops treat him like dirt & arrest him.
    That they later de-arrested him is prolly due to the Constable on the spot cooling down & realising what he’s done, or a Sergeant with some common sense & a brain intervening.

    This is the same force that the night after the Cronulla riots stood & watched while half of Lakemba Glocked-up in the park & then went marauding unhindered by police in Maroubra.

    The same force that stood & watched while a group of twenty-something aged waitresses were taken hostage by an ISIS operative, & kept watching as the girls rescued themselves.

    Only when the girls had run out of ways to keep rescuing themselves did NSWPlod go in & shoot every person remaining at the hostage scene.

    But nice lad exercising with three friends in public, in accordance with the law?
    Lots of smart-arse language, aggression, culminating with handcuffs behind the back & arrest.

    They at least had the self-awareness to drop blue-ribbon day this year.
    Shame, coz it would have brought some really good videos of housewives telling them where to stick the blue ribbon.

  33. vlad

    A2A = Australian Second Amendment.

  34. incoherent rambler

    China is having border arguments with most of its neighbours.

    They would be silly to upset Vladimir.

  35. calli

    Yep, she is the moderate wing of the demorats which means she would probably be in the hunchback’s cabinet. Nice tits though and a lovely smile.

    Blinded by the boobs.

    Will you guys ever learn?

    I bet you’d give her a pass to vote too.

  36. Mitch M.

    incoherent rambler
    #3601101, posted on September 29, 2020 at 3:03 pm
    China is having border arguments with most of its neighbours.

    They would be silly to upset Vladimir.

    They already have.

    Russia stopped shipment of the S400 air defense units. Very good surface to air missiles. That might be payback for the Chinese reverse engineering the SU-27s Russia sold to it. Now this …

    The latest expansion claims are targetted at the Russian city of Vladivostok. Chinese diplomats, journalists and nationalists took to the internet to assert claims over the Russia city of Vladivostok formerly part of the Qing dynasty, a news extensively covered by Indian media outlets.

    The backlash started after the Russian embassy took to Weibo to celebrate the 160th anniversary of the founding of the city, whose name means “ruler of the east” in Russian.

  37. twostix

    Asia (including the Middle East) remained by far Ontario’s largest source of immigrants between 2011 and 2016, with 68.8% of newcomers arriving from the region, up from 63.1% during the 2006-2011 period.
    Newcomers born in Europe made up the second largest group at 9.6% of recent immigrants.

    Less than 10% of immigrants arriving to live in Ontario are European, and it has been this way for the last decade.

  38. William the Conjuror

    Why the hell would Australia do anything with Canada?

    The Korean War. Canadians invariably speak well of the Australians they served with there, and vice versa.

    If you are out of your depth with that, then there are many Australians who work in Canada and are made very welcome there.

  39. The Korean War. Canadians invariably speak well of the Australians they served with there, and vice versa.

    Canada may have changed somewhat during the almost 70 years since then.

  40. old bloke

    The Anglophone countries MUST form tighter economic ties and form a common strategy to counter china.
    Or they will get picked off separately.

    I don’t disagree with that, but how do we disengage? We can’t start sending stuff to Canada instead of China when Canada already has enough of the stuff we have on offer. How would we benefit from CANZUK?

  41. Makka

    Canada may have changed somewhat during the almost 70 years since then.

    Not really. I was there for a couple weeks in Feb and I found it a very friendly place . Heaps of Aussies in the ski fields.

  42. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Breaking, from the Oz. Cardinal George Pell has flown out to the Vatican.

  43. miltonf

    Toronto’s never really grabbed me. I like BC-Alberta-Saskatchewan (what a great name)-Manitoba. Even western Ontario.

  44. twostix

    Why the hell would Australia do anything with Canada?

    The Korean War

    lol what the fuck grigs, I know you’re old and batty but this is…wtf hahaha.

  45. cohenite

    Blinded by the boobs.

    Will you guys ever learn?

    I go to my fate willingly.

  46. Speedbox

    incoherent rambler
    #3601101, posted on September 29, 2020 at 3:03 pm

    They would be silly to upset Vladimir.

    They won’t. Too many vested interests between them and although I suspect that the Russians don’t actually like the Chinese all that much (and the Chinese don’t 100% trust the Russians), it is politically expedient for both sides to cozy up to each other into the foreseeable future.

    Separately, Russia is walking a tight-rope over the Nagorno-Karabakh dispute between Azerbaijan and Armenia. Russia has officially adopted a position of neutrality although it would normally back Armenia whilst Turkey in backing Azerbaijan.

    Azerbaijan got their backside kicked by Armenia back in 1990 but since then, Azerbaijan has grown much stronger and has turned the military tables.

    Turkey’s involvement is interesting because they are less than popular with their NATO colleagues and Russia sees this as an opportunity for exploitation. Turkey’s decision to purchase Russian-made S-400 air-defense missiles being evidence. Beyond that, a warm Russian/Turkey relationship has other potential benefits for Russia, and Turkey uses it as a taunt/bargaining chip against NATO and the EU more generally.

    So, on the one hand, Russia needs to stand by its Armenian ally. On the other, it wants to avoid an escalation which would bring it into conflict with Turkey.

    The Nagorno-Karabakhan dispute is one of those that bubbles along under the surface. Pass the popcorn.

  47. twostix

    CANZUK

    CANZCUK?

    🤣

    A unified league of cucked nations dedicated importing 90% of alien people from all over the globe to replace them this century.

  48. twostix

    Toronto has no dominant culture or nationality, which also makes it one of the world’s most diverse cities. 49% of the city’s population belong to a visible minority group (compared to 14% in 1981), and visible minorities are expected to hit a majority of 63% of the Toronto CMA population by 2017.

    Canada’s exactly like it was in the 1950’s!

  49. Mitch M.

    Too many vested interests between them and although I suspect that the Russians don’t actually like the Chinese all that much (and the Chinese don’t 100% trust the Russians), it is politically expedient for both sides to cozy up to each other into the foreseeable future.

    Good point. It is an uneasy arrangement but both have much to gain from being on the same side. Russia probably resents the arrangement but has no choice. For China it is purely pragmatic. That’s a problem for the whole world because China only has loyalty to itself and if it sees an opportunity to expand it will.

  50. Speedbox

    Mitch M.
    #3601109, posted on September 29, 2020 at 3:23 pm

    They already have. The latest expansion claims are targeted at the Russian city of Vladivostok….

    Yeah, that was good for a laugh during these COVID times. One hundred and sixty years ago it was ceded by China to Russia as a result of the Treaty of Aigun of 1858 and the Treaty of Peking of 1860. Good luck getting it back now.

    China have plenty of other issues to navigate (steal, lie, bully).

  51. Speedbox

    That’s a problem for the whole world because China only has loyalty to itself and if it sees an opportunity to expand it will.

    Damn straight.

  52. Bruce of Newcastle

    Toronto has no dominant culture or nationality

    Wrong. Toronto has the dominant culture known as “bogan”.
    Oh you mean the other Toronto.
    Sorry. As you were.

  53. Bruce of Newcastle

    I was in Coles at Toronto this morning. Didn’t even have to spend 14 days in quarantine afterwards.

  54. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    Mick Gold Coast QLD at 8:45 am wonders:

    “A2A”?

    A complete garbled unnecessary mystery. Even Urban Dictionary is no help.

    A man needs to cart round an an interpreter to negotiate his way through the day.

    calli at 8:52 am kindly offers:

    “Mick, I may be wrong, but I took it as “Australian Second Amendment”, ie. the right to possess and bear arms.”

    Oh dear. I can see it coming then – the brave militia forming up under the BLF blue flag in Lawler Place, Ararat, raising its missing left arm in defiance for We The People, and marching on the founding fathers in the US Embassy in Washington. That’ll put things right alright.

  55. Makka

    Eccles is a clueless tax eater, but Crisp is the legislated responsible person for managing the crisis response. If this is accurate he is being given a pass. Why?

    How Dan Andrews’ right-hand man is set to take the fall for Victoria’s hotel quarantine disaster instead of his boss – as farcical inquiry hears NO-ONE made deadly decision to hire private security guards

    Uncertainty hangs over secretary Chris Eccles after hotel quarantine outbreak
    Among three departmental secretaries criticised in detailed legal submissions
    Lawyers for inquiry said he should have told premier about federal ADF offer
    Counsel said though decision to use private security not made by one person
    Instead, advice said move was a ‘creeping assumption that became a reality’

  56. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Zulu Kilo Two Alpha at 3:40 pm:

    “Breaking, from the Oz. Cardinal George Pell has flown out to the Vatican.”

    Not yet – Channel 7 late afternoon News just had its reporter report from the airport (somewhere) where he lays in wait to ambush His Eminence as he skulks secretly out of the country.

  57. rickw

    A2A = Australian Second Amendment.

    I have entered this into Urban Dictionary, it will come up for confirmation / approval, if others know how to work the thing, knock yourselves out!

  58. Makka:

    4 things;

    1) Ridiculously high energy costs
    2) Horrendous taxes
    3) Unions.
    4) Green and Red tape regulatory hellscape.

    And we have done all this to ourselves which is why I repeat ad nauseum that the entire thing has to be torn down and remade, with a new Constitution and the firepower in citizens hands to enforce it.
    Tinkering around the edges has just allowed special interests to continue demanding more and more – and they have the legal and financial power to enforce their demands.

  59. Pro slashing defense budget
    Anti mandatory minimum sentences
    Anti cash bail

    These are all good things.

    Tulsi would be to the right of the LNP.

    She’s an “extreme right winger”, of course.

  60. Someone mentioned Toronto.

    “What’s your name?”

  61. Roger

    Yep, she [Tulsi] is the moderate wing of the demorats which means she would probably be in the hunchback’s cabinet.

    She wouldn’t have a bar of that.

    She’d make a very good VA secretary, with little room for extra curricula shenanigans.

  62. Blinded by the boobs.

    Will you guys ever learn?

    I bet you’d give her a pass to vote too

    Dick-based policy. I’d root her, but be fucked if I’d vote for her.

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