Political depravity

Along with the amazement at every other facet of the Covid story, the future will think the ban on HCQ as perhaps the most inexplicable.

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49 Responses to Political depravity

  1. stackja

    MSM hate Donald Trump.
    Explains it all.

  2. They’re going to need a huge new gaol in Victoria to lock up all the industrial manslaughter convictions just from the public service and legislative assembly.

  3. Tim Neilson

    MSM hate Donald Trump.
    Explains it all.

    I think there’s another factor. Pharmaceutical companies can’t make much money from an out of patent drug, but they could make squillions from a new (and compulsory) vaccine.

  4. Penny

    I don’t know how theses politicians and so called medical advisers can live with themselves, the only politician that speaks out in favour of HCQ regime is Craig Kelly
    It’s incomprehensible how this so called liberal government still relies on the fraudulent studies published By the Lancet and now removed. It’s nothing short of criminal, their day of reckoning can’t come soon enough, I have nothing but contempt for the lot of them

  5. pat

    the plan was to have media headlines/stories, almost daily, in the run-up to the election, such as this popular one:

    27 Jul: ABC: Coronavirus update: US, Brazil and India lead world tally of 16 million COVID-19 cases
    More than 16 million cases of coronavirus have been recorded across the world, with the US leading the death and infection tallies.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-27/coronavirus-update-world-total-cases-hurricane-hanna-hong-kong/12493662

    ABC have been singling out US, Brazil & India for months (3 Govts with nationalist agendas who they loathe):

    25 Sept: news.com.au: China comes out of COVID-19 ‘absolutely laughing’
    An Aussie journalist who fled China says the difference between what you hear about COVID-19 there compared to elsewhere is unfathomable.
    by Angie Raphael
    Bill Birtles, who was the ABC’s China correspondent in Beijing from 2015 until a few weeks ago, said it was a “parallel world” between what was being heard about COVID-19 there compared to elsewhere.
    “It is almost unfathomably different,” he told a Lowy Institute webinar discussion about Australia’s fractured ties with China…
    “On the ground, China has absolutely smashed COVID.”…

    Mr Birtles said the government had almost eliminated domestic transmission among a population of 1.4 billion people, compared to countries like India, the US and Brazil, which was an “extraordinary achievement”…

    He said the US also gave China a “gift” with its terrible handling of the virus, which had been “absolutely exploited for all political gain domestically” in China through the state media…
    https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/china-comes-out-of-covid19-absolutely-laughing/news-story/e290b19533817fd277a16f8ad9be12fb

    Statista: Covid deaths per million
    #1 Peru 966.79
    #2 Belgium (home of EU) 869.37
    Bolivia, Chile, Spain, Ecuador
    #7 Brazil
    #9 USA 597.07
    #61 India 60.67 (therapeutics included HCQ+ and homeopathy)
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

  6. Bruce

    Given that HCQ (Essentially synthetic Quinnine),has been used GLOBALLY against Malaria for at least thirty years, one might expect that it should have had come “cred”.

    But, it is Viktoriastan, so …….

  7. Bela Bartok

    But Trump likes it, ipso facto it must be opposed.

  8. Howard Hill

    Seems to me they’re already guilty of crimes against humanity.
    These evil bastards knew exactly what they were/are still doing.
    Time to string them all up for what they’ve done to this country and the rest of the world. Public execution is the only remedy which will dissuade anyone from ever doing it again.

  9. incoherent rambler

    Does the ban constitute “industrial manslaughter” in Siktoristan?

  10. But, it is Viktoriastan, so …….

    In case you haven’t noticed, it was banned the world just about over the moment Trump said it was good.

  11. pat

    post this but don’t think it went through.

    an added note to my comment re Statista covid deaths per million –

    US might have made #8 for a week or two at one point a few months ago, but then returned to #9 where it has been throughout the “pandemic”.

  12. Colonel Bunty Golightly

    What Penny said.

  13. Leo G

    I think there’s another factor. Pharmaceutical companies can’t make much money from an out of patent drug, but they could make squillions from a new (and compulsory) vaccine.

    This reminds me of actions by pharmaceutical companies several decades ago when patents expired for the NSAI drug nimesulide.
    The drug was low cost (production cost lower than aspirin) and was considered a very safe general purpose anti-inflammatory. It was also considered as a possible treatment for people with a genetic deficiency of an alpha1- globulin component to prevent the associated onset of emphysema and liver disease.
    However, medical companies were seeking to get approval for high-cost lung reduction therapy for patients with emphysema and the availability of a low cost, more effective preventative drug treatment was an impediment to the approval process.
    A rigorous campaign was mounted to ban the use of the drug in humans- based on now-discredited studies that found high risk of liver damage in pediatric use.
    I recently noticed that nimesulide is now high on the list for trialling as a treatment of ARDS arising from COVID or influenza.

  14. pat

    just about to read this one. don’t know if it’s been posted before:

    22 Sept: Journal of Pharmaceutical Research International: Therapeutic Management of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19): A Systematic Review and Treatment Algorithm; Among all treatment modalities, antimalarial Hydroxychloroquine ranked the highest cure rate
    Authors: Zreiq, R., Haouas, N., Khemakhem, A. M., Obeidat, R. M., Ali, R. M., Shammary, A. A. A.-, Alsaif, B.
    https://journaljpri.com/index.php/JPRI/article/view/30780

  15. Speedbox

    Tim Neilson
    #3600166, posted on September 28, 2020 at 2:30 pm

    The three companies leading the race for a vaccine are Pfizer, AstraZeneca, and Moderna. (I have excluded Russia’s Sputnik V ‘cos wussia, wussia, wussia).

    Anyway, it is anticipated that a minimum of three billion people would require vaccination and that most vaccination schemes involve two doses per person. Moderna has provisionally indicated that each dose will cost $US12-16 per dose. I’ll let you do the maths. 🙂

    To be fair, some countries will get the vaccine for free or at heavily discounted prices, but the value of sales will be exceptional – similarly the 2021 Christmas bonuses for executives.

  16. Steve

    The weforum.org web site appears to basically be the literal “to do” list of the globalists.

    What is pushed heavily is – vaccines, vaccines, vaccines. No drugs.

    So its clear the use of vaccines as a global control grid is decreed, which is why HCQ is being trashed.

    Victoriastan had several shots placed across the bow with its appalling Stalinist school of public relations and the threat of the CDC report showing 94% of people dont die from covid itself. It knows its only a matter of time before public order starts to fully break down. The globalists cant affored things to fall apart now, lest thier trained monkey be dragged out into the street and brualized, which appears may have been close, so better to beat a retreat with thier indefinate detention laws in place to inflict what appears to be systemic PTSD level trauma, while patting everyone on the head , giving them an elephant stamp and telloing them what good children they have been…..

    This isnt over, its just a tactic retreat and re-group wiating for the next push.

    The other prize was leaving in place permenant leash of “covid restrictions” which is a leash that provieds an ability to tighten a net of “restrictions” / noose around the collective necks of victorians at any moment.

    And at any moment the covid “air raid sirens” will sound, and obedient Victoristanis will bolt obediently for thier kennels. Again, while the “dog catcher” police are out with nets, waiting to haul off any naughty puppies to the pound, or maybe just pound them in place…..

  17. the sting

    So if you happened to be unfortunate enough to be diagnosed with malaria in Victoria , you could not be prescribed the normal treatment because of the ban on HCQ .

  18. Orange Man very bad ….. Orange Man like HSQ …. HSQ very very bad !

  19. DaveR

    I think there’s another factor. Pharmaceutical companies can’t make much money from an out of patent drug, but they could make squillions from a new (and compulsory) vaccine.

    Federal Coalition in the pocket of Big Pharma? Or does the Federal Coalition need to curry favour with Big Pharma? Oh wait…. AstraZenica….

  20. Dave of Reedy Creek, Qld

    Very strange about our now infamous banned drug when it is not only a very important malarial treatment but also and extremely important Lupus treatment. I will never understand the cold hearted and calculated way Hydroxychloroquine was banned and I am sure a number of people could have been saved with it. I think leftist politicians in particular have no conscience and no empathy whatsoever.

  21. I wonder what sort of mind altering effects these vaccines will really produce? A Leftist’s wet dream? The schools are already well on the way with mind altering, it just needs a kick to get the rest of the population in line.

    Nah! That’s pure fantasy.

  22. Chris M

    They’re going to need a huge new gaol in Victoria to lock up all the industrial manslaughter convictions just from the public service and legislative assembly.

    Meh, your just fussy about drug names. LockDan might have banned things like HCQ and vaping but it’s all for the good of Viktorians so just use some other Dan approved street drug like meth, dope, heroin and chop chop.

  23. rickw

    Not inexplicable.

    There’s no pandemic if a $5 treatment with a known drug is a cure for most.

  24. Anonandon

    Dan’s recent edict about what constitutes a proper mask is straight out of socialism 1.01 where arbitrary and non-sensical rules are imposed to demoralise and confuse the population.

    “The other masks were fine when we had 700 plus cases. Now that we have 5 we have to tighten the rules again. So best behave and fuck you fellow Victorians. Oh, we are all in this together something, something, something. Fuck you. See you tomorrow.”

  25. cuckoo

    SBS reported the heartwarmingly large anti-lockdown protest in London – bad protest. Then they went straight onto a ‘good’ protest – Israelis against Netanyahu. The latter protest was equally in breach of current Israeli regulations, but the voice over declared that this protest was ‘socially distanced’, even as their own vision showed this was clearly not the case.

  26. rickw

    FYI

    If you want hydroxychloroqine, innovivepharma DELIVER!

    I ordered Chloroquine tablets from them in late 2019 and Hydroxychloroqine from them in early 2020. All arrived. The generic name for Hydroxychloroqine is Plaquenil.

    https://innovivepharma.com/

  27. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    There seems to be a strong case that HCL (an antiparasitic) with Azithromycin (a well tested antibiotic) and supplementary Zinc can be a very helpful treatment for Covid19 in the early stages of infection. There is also a valid biological pathway to explain why it works in the human body. It is so well tested it is unlikely to do harm in short-term dosages. Why doctors are not allowed to use this trio for a basically preventative and early treatment purpose is beyond any reason.

    Ivermectin (another common antiparasitic) with Doxycycline (a tetracycline antibiotic) and supplementary Zinc seems to also work at this stage but is less tested (GP’s may still be able to prescribe this trio if they chase up how).

    Big Pharma, Big Vax, and Big Stupidity seem to be at work in denying the use of these two treatments.

  28. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The generic name for Hydroxychloroqine is Plaquenil.

    It’s the other way round, Rick. Plaquenil is a well known brand name for Hydrocychloroquine, which is the chemical being branded. Other brands (generally termed generics, meaning they have the same chemical but not under the initial branded name) are usually available for most popular drugs. That’s what the pharmacist means when he asks do you want X (the major brand) or a generic (a knock-off brand now its out of patent)?

  29. pbw

    Paul has it covered.

    Orange Man very bad ….. Orange Man like HSQ …. HSQ very very bad !

    That’s it. Sure the pharma companies would love to flog off expensive drugs, but they are going to be in clover for years from the vaccines. But the interest of pharma does not go any way towards explaining the bans. those bans are just out-and-out criminal, and the only conceivable motivation is the visceral hatred of Trump.

    The whole Western left establishment has been sucked into the Trump vortex. There is no reason, no sense of civic, political or personal responsibility – just a blinding hatred which has swallowed up all illusions we may have harboured that live in a somewhat orderly and just society.

  30. MACK

    “The hypothesis that the 4-aminoquinolines chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine may be beneficial in the treatment of COVID-19 is a weak one, based on poor mechanistic reasoning and inconsistent results of studies in vitro, in laboratory animals, and in humans.

    It is likely that even if chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are effective in COVID-19, the beneficial effects will be small.”
    https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/chloroquine-and-hydroxychloroquine/

  31. Terry Andrews

    History will be written so no-one will know

  32. Tom

    Trump Derangement kills — especially in the hands of incompetent public servants, even those with medical qualifications. I dearly hope some of this Australian Deep State pondscum is personally sued and backrupted — especially that clown Paul Kelly, the acting federal chief medical officer, who has the blood of innocents on his hands.

  33. Another Ian

    Dan’s mates get a mention

    ” Good sign we’re onto something: the Chinese research database revoked access from whoever found the Chinese-language 2013 MSc and 2016 PhD theses confirming that in 2012 these was a SARS-like pneumonia outbreak in a mine from which WIV got RaTG13/4991 — closest SARS2 relative. https://t.co/JLV6nhtpex

    — Yuri Deigin (@ydeigin) September 27, 2020 ”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2020/09/28/one-flu-out-of-the-wuhan-nest-17/

  34. Boxcar

    HCQ was restricted by the FDA in USA on 22nd March. TGA followed suit on 24th March.
    Apparently many countries routinely follow FDA.
    This pre-dated Orange Man Bad by two months, but makes a more than interesting add on to a Pharma conspiracy,. Why not nobble the horse at the starting gate.

    Now, to turn your minds to industrial manslaughter, is there a case from failing to dose every Nursing home patient with HCQ during a State of disaster?
    The government granted itself extreme, perhaps even unlimited, power, and, I would claim, obligation, to initiate every possible measure to save lives, and should have taken every possible step to understand and adopt those measures.
    I wrote to my local member at the start of August about HCQ as a preventative for use in Nursing homes, with no acknowledgement .
    If the government had discounted one possibility,are they accountable?

  35. Tim Neilson

    MACK
    #3600341, posted on September 28, 2020 at 6:46 pm

    Yet another paper that hyperventilates against the use of HCQ without zinc, instead of addressing the use of HCQ with zinc.

  36. Fat Tony

    Howard Hill
    #3600185, posted on September 28, 2020 at 2:57 pm
    Seems to me they’re already guilty of crimes against humanity.
    These evil bastards knew exactly what they were/are still doing.
    Time to string them all up for what they’ve done to this country and the rest of the world. Public execution is the only remedy which will dissuade anyone from ever doing it again.

    Problem is that these same people control the police, army, courts and legislation.
    Nuremberg only happened cos it was the losers in the dock.

  37. Crossie

    Hardly inexplicable when half the world’s population could see the motive perfectly clearly. The only people who find it inexplicable are the dumb media neophytes.

  38. nb

    See a plethora of hydroxychloroquine studies at:
    https://c19study.com/
    Ukraine had its famine.
    CCP China gave the world the coronavirus. Many Western governments actively prevented their populations from reaching for a known prophylactic and cure.
    Victoria ALP around the top of the list for actively killing its population.
    China ALP.

  39. Crossie

    Penny
    #3600171, posted on September 28, 2020 at 2:38 pm
    I don’t know how theses politicians and so called medical advisers can live with themselves, the only politician that speaks out in favour of HCQ regime is Craig Kelly

    Craig Kelly is still in Coventry having been sent there by his parliamentary colleagues. I find it hard to tell the difference between ScoMo’s mob and Malcolm’s.

  40. Crossie

    Problem is that these same people control the police, army, courts and legislation.
    Nuremberg only happened cos it was the losers in the dock.

    True and that is also why the Victorian inquiry is worthless beyond words.

  41. Rob MW

    Political depravity

    Absolutely. HCQ + Zinc + Antibiotic (or Steroid) administered early once infected without a shadow of doubt would have saved many of the most at risk.

    F****** criminals.

    Why did Boris order big amounts of HCQ after being released from hospital ? Hmm….. did they treat him with HQC ? But in the end politics took over I guess.

  42. Hay Stockard

    I take a homeopathic to the virus. I smoke and treat my throat with alcohol several times a day. Not for everyone I suppose as the regime is rigorous but it works for me. That and my tiger stone. No Victorian cure around here.

  43. Bruce

    Don’t forget the Zinc!

    Quick “pop-science” link:

    https://www.womenshealth.com.au/zinc-deficiency-signs-symptoms

    Most Australian soils are quite Zinc deficient. LOTS of Zinc ore in several mining operations, but that is another story.

    Zinc deficiencty shows up quite clearly in leafy vegetables; odd leaf-yellowing and so on. The experienced home and commercial vegetable gardeners around here will have more detail.

    If human dietary zinc comes primarily from leafy vegetables, what is the likely outcome of low-zinc in said vegetables?

  44. Leo G

    MACK posted on September 28, 2020 at 6:46 pm

    “The hypothesis that the 4-aminoquinolines chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine may be beneficial in the treatment of COVID-19 is a weak one, based on poor mechanistic reasoning and inconsistent results of studies …”

    Quoting the small, competent, but necessarily biased Oxford CEBM team who have also raised somilar doubts about the effectiveness of social distancing and masks, but no concern that political meddling could see their Oxford colleagues’ COVID vaccine approved for emergency use without sufficient evidence that it works.

  45. old bloke

    “Political Depravity” is the appropriate heading Steve, the Government’s inaction resulting in needless deaths of 100’s of Australians cannot be described any other way.

    Craig Kelly comes across as good value for a politician, I’d vote for him if I lived in his electorate, but I think he’s wrong to lay the blame on the TGA. The TGA, like the rest of the bureaucracy, exists to advise the Government, the Government is ultimately responsible for any actions or inactions which they choose to make, the buck stops with Morrison.

  46. Bruce

    As for the “Zinc” co-dosing, this would seem to be VERY important here in Oz.

    Australian soils are relatively “Zinc poor”. Yes, LOTS of zinc in a number of serious mining operations, but astute gardeners and vege growers will be aware of the “symptoms” of low zinc levels in their soil and thus their produce.

    It’s worth reading about the important role Zinc plays in several major bodily systems / functions.

  47. DD

    Early on I saw a video dealing with the mechanism. It seemed to be well known, after all Fauci’s mob published it back in 2005?

    Zinc will kill the virus (normal immunity) but cannot break through the virus defences.
    HCQ attacks and tears down the virus defence.
    Zinc gets in and does the deed.
    The antibiotic takes care of any secondary infection.

    Normal blood chemistry analysis includes zinc levels, it is an important trace element for humans and plants. Could be a reason dogs regularly eat grass.

    I have memory that I found this via jonova but have looked again without success.

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