Tuesday Forum: September 29, 2020

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  1. Leigh Lowe

    Louise seems bitter.
    Here, have a chocolate drop eye.

  2. Frank

    contracts for diversity and unconscious bias training

    And there it is, how much are these charlatans making off with for running seminars on tendentious shit they cobbled together from Google. Liberally sprinkled with phrases like “there is some good evidence to suggest” and “the science” and all the rest. In the army FFS, how does that ever happen.

  3. vlad

    Tinta, I prefer to say nothing as going to Confession (aka reconciliation for those new age catholics) these days can earn you a fine from VicPol.

    The practice of the Catholic religion in Victoria has been suspended by law until further notice. That has to be a breach of any number of covenants and international agreements that the left is always – or was always, once – signing us up to.

  4. miltonf

    Yes LL- the spite is palpable

  5. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘he was just a muso back in the day.’

    Never copped a sling from his will. Must have been terrible for his management when he….. overdosed.

    Yes. Overdosed.

  6. vlad

    Louise seems bitter.
    Here, have a chocolate drop eye.

    She’s an embittered sore loser.

  7. vlad

    I think it would be legal for a priest to come to your house to hear your confession.

  8. Leigh Lowe

    miltonf

    #3601510, posted on September 29, 2020 at 8:49 pm

    Yes LL- the spite is palpable

    Is it just possible that such a person might glean useful tid-bits of “evidence” from VikPol and seed it with other “witnesses”, thus creating independent collaborative witnesses?

  9. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘She’s an embittered sore loser.’

    Sporting the beginnings of world class bingo wings, and approximately six months of rating above a solid 5 before the decline can’t be hidden.

  10. Leigh Lowe

    What is “confession”?

  11. vlad

    he was just a muso back in the day

    Prince was not just a muso.

    He was the muso.

  12. vlad

    What is “confession”?

    Turn it up, LL. You’ll be asking “What’s ammo?” next.

  13. notafan

    Yes, only outdoor weddings and church services of five knowing full well not acceptable options for Catholics.

    We would like to see a baby baptised. Far too big now to wear a great great grandmother’s christening robe.

    I’ve been to mass in person only four times since March and only once on a Sunday, and that was in Qld.

  14. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Prince was not just a muso.
    He was the muso.’

    George Thorogood would smash Prince in a punch on.

  15. rickw

    Lol, check out these two antifa shitbirds!
    ProudBoyos be trembling!

    Someone stole Grandpa’s rusty old WWII 1911…

  16. Zyconoclast

    How a Pledge to Dismantle the Minneapolis Police Collapsed

    Now some council members would like a do-over.

    Councilor Andrew Johnson, one of the nine members who supported the pledge in June, said in an interview that he meant the words “in spirit,” not by the letter. Another councilor, Phillipe Cunningham, said that the language in the pledge was “up for interpretation” and that even among council members soon after the promise was made, “it was very clear that most of us had interpreted that language differently.”

  17. vlad

    George Thorogood is a pretty good one-hit wonder.

  18. Gab

    I think it would be legal for a priest to come to your house to hear your confession.

    You would think wrong then.

    A priest can come to your home only if you are in need of the Last Rites – and that’s only been ”legal” for 2 weeks.

  19. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘George Thorogood is a pretty good one-hit wonder.’

    Pshaw. Folderol and poppycock.

    Centuries from now they will still talk in hushed tones of George Thorogood and The Destroyers. Prince will be in the bargain bin on the space station in the same company as Flock of Seagulls and Right Said Fred.

  20. vlad

    You would think wrong then.

    A priest can come to your home only if you are in need of the Last Rites – and that’s only been ”legal” for 2 weeks.

    I may well be wrong in that opinion but it would take a court to decide it.

    I would argue the priest can visit for the purpose of caregiving under the legislation, which I would further argue includes spiritual caregiving as an adjunct to mental health.

  21. miltonf

    Speaking of dirty old stinks…he’s baaaaack (again)..

    Veteran reporter Carl Bernstein called on Congress to investigate President Donald Trump in light of a New York Times story on Trump’s tax returns during Monday’s broadcast of “CNN Newsroom.”

  22. vlad

    Centuries from now they will still talk in hushed tones of George Thorogood and The Destroyers. Prince will be in the bargain bin on the space station in the same company as Flock of Seagulls and Right Said Fred.

    In music no one ever really dies.

  23. Gab

    Argue all you like, Vladomir, but Dan’s rules say otherwise.

  24. Knuckle Dragger

    Elvis Presley died, and not before time.

    Most overrated specimen of the decade. The same award in the band category goes to The Beatles.

  25. Gab

    KD, don’t be cruel to a heart that’s true.

  26. vlad

    And someone made a joke about about Prince’s will.

    Like Jimi Hendrix, he died intestate.

  27. Steve trickler

    Ozzy in cracking form.



  28. vlad

    Argue all you like, Vladomir, but Dan’s rules say otherwise.

    Gab, Dan’s rules only say what a court says they say. Until then, it’s all opinion and argument.

  29. notafan

    Vlad reading the initial response by Archbishop Comensoli it appears confession as well as private prayer in church was intended to remain available, though the government rules have changed. .

    I think you are correct regarding care giving. There is no legal requirement* to provide documentation for caregiving, though I have it JIC I meet a bully. And there is zero definition of what ‘mental health ‘ is.

    *I have contacted DHHS on this issue.

  30. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Zyconoclast at 9:00 pm:

    “How a Pledge to Dismantle the Minneapolis Police Collapsed

    Now some council members would like a do-over.

    …”

    If you are interested in the story don’t get too excited.

    This is one of those links to a site which will have you sign up before you can read any part of their exciting report, supposedly for free. That means you will get emails and pop ups and all that other intrusive internet stuff appearing at all times, interrupting when you are attempting to use your computer for work or for things other than a cursory look at the news.

    Forget it, don’t bother.

  31. Stimpson J. Cat

    Hypothetically,
    if say one, or many corrupt Cardinals with access to literally hundreds and hundreds of millions of Euros in Vatican funds, some of it money donated by the faithful of course,
    decided to halt an investigation into the locations and spending and laundering of such funds,
    how much do you think it would cost in Australian dollars to organise a Police investigation and dirtfile into the person charged with leading the audit?

    And didn’t the Pope himself stop the audit?

    Really makes you think.

    Purely hypothetically of course.

  32. Albatross

    I’m back and see I missed a smiting. Was it “Da Joos” who done did an international banking conspiracy? Did we ever get some answers on JC’s millions and his ties to Murray Rothbard?

  33. Gab

    What are the ‘care or compassionate reasons’ for being able to leave my home?
    You may leave your home for any of the following personal reasons:

    to visit a doctor or other health professional or care service, or to obtain medical supplies
    to donate blood
    if you have shared parenting obligations and need to transport children between homes, under an informal or court-ordered arrangement
    to provide child-minding services at someone’s home
    if you are the parent or guardian of a child and you wish to visit the child because they are in the care of another person or organisation, or you have obligations in relation to the care and support of the child
    to provide childcare, early childhood education or schooling to a child
    if you have carer responsibilities, for example, picking up or dropping off children in a foster care or respite care arrangement
    to drop off or pick up a child at personal or private childcare, early childhood education facility or school
    to provide care and support to a relative or other person – such as shopping, cooking or house-cleaning – because of their old age, infirmity, disability, sickness or chronic health condition, they are pregnant or have health or mental health concerns
    to visit someone in an aged care facility, disability accommodation or other residential care facility, provided you comply with the Care facilities direction
    to visit someone in hospital, provided that visit conforms to the Hospital visitor direction
    if there is family violence, or violence by another person in the home, and you are at risk. If you are stopped by police, tell them you are feeling unsafe at home and they will help you. Safe accommodation and support for family violence is available. Call safe steps on 1800 015 188 or email [email protected] help 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

    https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/second-step-restrictions-summary-metropolitan-melbourne-covid-19#what-are-the-care-or-compassionate-reasonsnbspfor-being-able-to-leave-my-home

  34. Nick

    Has Louise Seven-Nilligan weighed in on the Pell trip to Rome yet?

    No doubt working on tweet dynamite such as:

    I hope he’s flying economy
    Scandal! He checked in over the bag weight limit and wasn’t penalised
    I heard he had a second drink with dinner on the plane
    People saw him asleep. How can that man sleep ?

  35. Gab

    And didn’t the Pope himself stop the audit?

    What we are told is that the-now-fired-and-no-longer-a-cardinal-but-still-gets-to-wear-cardinal’s-garb Beccui was the one who stopped the audit.

    But that’s only what we’re told.

  36. vlad

    to provide care and support to a relative or other person – such as shopping, cooking or house-cleaning – because of their old age, infirmity, disability, sickness or chronic health condition, they are pregnant or have health or mental health concerns

  37. Crossie

    I finally realised who Dan Andrews reminds me of, Richard III. Hope he meets the same fate as the hunchback king, metaphorically speaking.

  38. notafan

    Nick

    Even better.

    He was wearing gardening clothes.

  39. Albatross

    support for family violence is available

    This hardly seems like the kind of thing we should be supporting.

  40. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘He was wearing gardening clothes.’

    And a Groucho Marx gets up of fake glasses, pink nose and false mo.

  41. Crossie

    And didn’t the Pope himself stop the audit?

    It’s hard to tell what this pope is aware of and what decisions he is making. Every time he opens his mouth others must pipe up and explain what he really meant. This is not recent, this has been happening right from the start so I can’t even snark that he has developed the Biden disease. I can’t see how the Church gained by retiring Benedict in his favour.

  42. mh

    Elvis Presley died, and not before time.

    This is a hate site.

  43. Jo

    Cohenite, just as well smellavision never took off. Old Lefty, Louise Seven-Nilligen, clever.

  44. Leigh Lowe

    Elvis Presley is dead?
    Way to break it to me …

  45. Beccui was the one who stopped the audit.

    Plausible deniability for Christ’s Rep on Earth.

  46. notafan

    Who sacked* Beccui?

    That would be Pope Francis, I guess.

    *Formally resigned not revealed he was told to do do by Pope Francis.

  47. K2

    Hunting Aotearoa bro is visiting the infantry range.

  48. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘This is a hate site.’

    No way. But:

    The Fatback band released The Bus Stop (Are You Ready?) in 1975.

    That single contributed more to music as an art form globally than all Presley’s works combined.

  49. Perfidious Albino

    My understanding is that Beccui stopped the audit and unilaterally announced such even though he arguably didn’t have the authority, Pope Fonzi retrospectively acquiesced.

  50. Gab

    Formally resigned not revealed he was told to do do by Pope Francis.

    LOL. You don’t read much.

  51. Albatross

    I like “Act Like You Know” better KD.

  52. Nick

    From the Guardian no less

    Cardinal George Pell did not need to apply for a travel exemption to leave Australia because he is travelling to Rome for official Vatican government business.

  53. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I finally realised who Dan Andrews reminds me of, Richard III. Hope he meets the same fate as the hunchback king, metaphorically speaking.

    Richard III died fighting, deserted by his allies, and surrounded by his foes. I would see Dan Andrews scuttling to the rear “Put up the best fight you can, you fellas! I’m far to important to risk my life!”

  54. Knuckle Dragger

    The extra spin on the third leg of The Bus Stop.

    A proven winner with the ladeeees. If done properly, mind.

  55. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3601529, posted on September 29, 2020 at 9:05 pm

    👍

  56. Zyconoclast

    If you are interested in the story don’t get too excited.

    This is one of those links to a site which will have you sign up before you can read any part of their exciting report, supposedly for free. That means you will get emails and pop ups and all that other intrusive internet stuff appearing at all times, interrupting when you are attempting to use your computer for work or for things other than a cursory look at the news.

    Forget it, don’t bother.

    Here is the story link.
    You can read the entire article, no email, no pop ups

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/26/us/politics/minneapolis-defund-police.html

  57. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Richard III died fighting, deserted by his allies, and surrounded by his foes

    Zulu, I think I’ve posted this before but there’s a great book: Daughter of Time by Josephine Tey that, despite its novel form, explores the true story of Richard and how he was not the murderer of the Princes in the Tower.

  58. Zyconoclast

    Hungarian police say they have discovered at least 16 tunnels used by people traffickers to smuggle migrants across the border from neighbouring Serbia.

    The small tunnels, which are around a hundred feet long, are located near the village of Csikeria and the town of Morahalom. The discovery of the tunnels is said to have occurred after police managed to capture 26 illegal migrants from Afghanistan and Syria near the border.

  59. Zyconoclast

    America could have been $16 trillion richer if not for inequities in education, housing, wages and business investment between Black and White Americans over the past 20 years, new research concludes.

    The study, released this week by Citigroup, is the latest in a body of research that attempts to quantify the economic impact of systemic racism. Citigroup arrived at its $16 trillion figure after estimating that:

    Black workers have lost $113 billion in potential wages over the past two decades because they couldn’t get a college degree.
    The housing market lost $218 billion in sales because Black applicants couldn’t get home loans.
    About $13 trillion in business revenue never flowed into the economy because Black entrepreneurs couldn’t access bank loans.
    What’s more, the U.S. could have $5 trillion in gross domestic product over the next five years if those gaps and others were closed today, the study indicated.

  60. Cassie of Sydney

    Daniel Andrews is much more like King Joffrey Barathean than King Richard III.

  61. Knuckle Dragger

    Daniel Andrews. Not Richard III, but Macbeth.

  62. Top Ender

    I finally realised who Dan Andrews reminds me of, Richard III. Hope he meets the same fate as the hunchback king, metaphorically speaking.

    Richard III died heroically in battle, betrayed by some supporters, fighting for England against the invader Henry Tudor and his foreign mercenaries.

    And he had only minor scoliosis.

    Then again Andrews does look like an evil masked hunchback.

  63. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Zulu, I think I’ve posted this before but there’s a great book: Daughter of Time by Josephine Tey that, despite its novel form, explores the true story of Richard and how he was not the murderer of the Princes in the Tower.

    Sounds interesting – there were others who would have benefited from the murders of the “Princes in the Tower” including Henry Tudor – his claim to the throne was the most tenuous of all, but all other contenders were in exile, or dead.

  64. Cassie of Sydney
    #3601583, posted on September 29, 2020 at 10:08 pm

    Daniel Andrews is much more like King Joffrey Barathean than King Richard III.

    YOU ARE TALKING TO A KING!

    The King is tired, see him to his bedchamber.

  65. mh

    Paywallian

    LETTER TO PREMIER

    Despairing doctor’s plea to Premier on lockdown
    A doctor who warned Daniel Andrews that Melbourne’s lockdown was causing mental ‘anguish, despair and suicidal’ thoughts among children says he is not easing restrictions fast enough.
    10 MINUTES AGO By DAMON JOHNSTON, VICTORIAN EDITOR

  66. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Rope jury ‘can’t hear of false sex assault history’

    Nicola Berkovic
    LEGAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT
    @NicBerko
    7:08PM September 29, 2020

    The NSW government is facing fresh calls to amend a law criticised by successive judges as unfair after the High Court ruled a man accused of rope would have to face trial without being allowed to tell the jury of the complainant’s history of false sexual assault complaints.

    The provision, section 293 of the Criminal Procedure Act, is aimed at protecting rope victims from being cross-examined on their sexual history. However, it has been interpreted by the NSW courts as also preventing any evidence of prior false sexual-assault complaints by victims.

    In this case, a man known as Jackmain has been prevented from introducing evidence at his trial of 12 incidents in which the complainant allegedly made false sexual assault claims — a situation the trial judge labelled an “affront to justice”.

    The High Court last week rejected Jackmain’s application for special leave to appeal against a NSW Court of Appeal decision to exclude the evidence and continue his trial.

    A panel of three High Court judges was assembled, rather than the usual two, to hear Jackmain’s special leave application — but judges Geoffrey Nettle, Michelle Gordon and James Edelman ruled that Jackmain did not have “sufficient prospects” of successfully convincing the court the section was invalid, or that his prosecution should be permanently stayed. On the question of whether the law had been wrongly interpreted for almost 30 years, the High Court said, essentially, that Jackmain could come back after he was convicted

  67. Top Ender

    A top investment strategist who advises the Future Fund has likened the response to COVID-19 to the Salem witch trials, warning that governments will cause a depression if they continually “lock down” communities to stamp out the coronavirus.

    Marko Papic, chief strategist at California-based Clocktower Group, has claimed in a new book, Geopolitical Alpha, that the response to COVID-19 “would be studied by academics for centuries as an example of ‘mass hysteria’ on an order of magnitude similar to the one that culminated in the Salem witch trials”.

    “If G20 economies embrace indiscriminate flatten-the-curve policies, particularly if they do so indefinitely, they will cause a ­depression — not a 2008-style Great Recession, but a 1930s-style Great Depression,” he writes in his book published in the US this month.

    Mr Papic says the public has “lost its mind” over the “octogenarian-targeting COVID-19” in a similar way as when “confronted by the rampaging, decapitating Islamic State”.

    According to the Future Fund website, Clocktower is an asset management partner.

    Separately, in a presentation being given on Wednesday to the Portfolio Construction Forum Strategies Conference in Sydney, Mr Papic will say the pandemic would accelerate a shift away from free-markets, free trade, independent central banks and deregulation to a new “Buenos Aries Consensus” of left-wing populism underpinned by “generational conflict”.

    In the US, the under-35s had only about 7 per cent of the net wealth of the 65-74 age group in 2016, compared to more than 15 per cent in 1989 and 25 per cent in 1962, he notes.

    “Investors should stop poring over Federal Reserve minutes as if they were Holy Scripture,” he says, suggesting that the Trump administration is leading the change with massive fiscal stimulus.

    Oz

  68. Top Ender

    A top investment strategist who advises the Future Fund has likened the response to COVID-19 to the Salem witch trials, warning that governments will cause a depression if they continually “lock down” communities to stamp out the coronavirus.

    Marko Papic, chief strategist at California-based Clocktower Group, has claimed in a new book, Geopolitical Alpha, that the response to COVID-19 “would be studied by academics for centuries as an example of ‘mass hysteria’ on an order of magnitude similar to the one that culminated in the Salem witch trials”.

    “If G20 economies embrace indiscriminate flatten-the-curve policies, particularly if they do so indefinitely, they will cause a ­depression — not a 2008-style Great Recession, but a 1930s-style Great Depression,” he writes in his book published in the US this month.

    Mr Papic says the public has “lost its mind” over the “octogenarian-targeting COVID-19” in a similar way as when “confronted by the rampaging, decapitating I slamic State”.

    According to the Future Fund website, Clocktower is an asset management partner.

    Separately, in a presentation being given on Wednesday to the Portfolio Construction Forum Strategies Conference in Sydney, Mr Papic will say the pandemic would accelerate a shift away from free-markets, free trade, independent central banks and deregulation to a new “Buenos Aries Consensus” of left-wing populism underpinned by “generational conflict”.

    In the US, the under-35s had only about 7 per cent of the net wealth of the 65-74 age group in 2016, compared to more than 15 per cent in 1989 and 25 per cent in 1962, he notes.

    “Investors should stop poring over Federal Reserve minutes as if they were Holy Scripture,” he says, suggesting that the Trump administration is leading the change with massive fiscal stimulus.

    Link

  69. JC

    There’s a skirmish going on between Azerbaijan and Armenia. Does anyone know whose side Russia is on?

  70. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Wikipedia:
    The Daughter of Time is a 1951 detective novel by Josephine Tey, concerning a modern police officer’s investigation into the alleged crimes of King Richard III of England. It was the last book Tey published in her lifetime, shortly before her death. In 1990 it was voted number one in The Top 100 Crime Novels of All Time list compiled by the British Crime Writers’ Association.[1] In 1995 it was voted number four in The Top 100 Mystery Novels of All Time list compiled by the Mystery Writers of America

  71. Top Ender

    Linked to up above….here with more detail:

    Claims man running program for troubled kids in remote NT fabricated Aboriginal origin story

    By Annah Fromberg

    He claims he was abandoned on a riverbank as a baby by his biological mother and adopted by an Indigenous family which named him Brahminy — meaning wild and free.

    It’s the story Allan Brahminy’s program for troubled kids was based around, and for more than a decade he has been looking after children — many of whom are Indigenous — receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars from state governments.

    But Mr Brahminy’s biological family, former military colleagues, ex-wife and former partner claim he is not who he says he is.

    His program, which provides therapeutic care to at-risk children, is based on a remote property just outside Batchelor in the Northern Territory, about 122 kilometres from Darwin.

    The ABC understands the only children currently at the site are from Tasmania.

    Their families and the Tasmanian Aboriginal community have for years been raising concerns about the program.

    But it has the complete backing of the Tasmanian Government.

    Key points:
    – Troubled Tasmanian youth are spending long periods in a controversial program in the remote Northern Territory, which costs about $5,000 per week per child
    – The NT Government no longer uses the program, Tasmania is the only state still funding it
    – The man behind the program is facing accusations he has changed his name and fabricated stories about his past

    For some reason ABC going nuts on it – pages and pages of info

  72. K2

    Armenia has closer ties to Moscow (member of military and economic blocs). Azerbaijan is close to Turkey. They are Turkic.

  73. JC

    Okay. What’s Russia up to in this?

  74. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    – The man behind the program is facing accusations he has changed his name and fabricated stories about his past

    Sound like anyone else we know?

  75. rickw

    Scumbag slowly being cornered:

  76. rickw

    Cardinal George Pell did not need to apply for a travel exemption to leave Australia because he is travelling to Rome for official Vatican government business.

    No one should need a permit to leave this shithole.

  77. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    King Arthur fought a giant on Mont St Michael, so it has always been a sacred site for the old Germano-Gallic religion as well as the newer one. A similar island with a similar monumental architecture and also called St Michael’s Mount is found as a parallel island to Normandy’s on the Cornish coast. Causewayed islands are known as historic sacred sites dating back to the Neolithic. Lindisfarne is another of them. Something spiritually umbiliacal in the sandy neck of tidal terrain attaching the island to the coast. Liminal places.

  78. nb

    The China Dan plan:
    Eradication #1: ‘Going for utopia, whatever the cost.’
    Eradication #2: ‘No virus, no people.’

  79. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    King Arthur fought a giant on Mont St Michael

    LizzieB, with time on my hands in retirement, I’m going to re – read Bernard Cornwell’s trilogy.

  80. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Big TV date at 11am tomorrow. A visual demonstration of the short-term marvels capable of being wrought by the contemporary American pharmacopia on the disintegrating faculties of an elderly man barely recognizable when unmasked. President Trump will also be present but will not be taking any medication other than hydroxychloroquine in a preventative dose.

    Some unkind people are saying that Newly Jumpy Joe will have an earphone to improve his hearing .. and his answers.

    Time to head bedwards for me.

  81. Rex Mango

    The Great Man on 2020 election. Best bit is first few minutes:

  82. Rex Mango

    Ok, am only 12min in to to this vid, but this Bob bloke was great (not sure I will get through entire thing). Talk about a weapon of war. His casual racism etc is really bad, but yeah I want him on my side in any conflict (in, or out of uniform):

  83. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare #3601627, posted on September 29, 2020 at 11:19 pm
    Big TV date at 11am tomorrow.

    If we get stood up I won’t be entirely surprised.

  84. vlad #3601503, posted on September 29, 2020 at 8:44 pm

    Louise Seven-Nilligan

    🙂

  85. dover_beach

    Large Turnout At Memorial For Hans Gruber Who Was Thrown From A Building By A Police Officer:

    Gruber was part of a mainly peaceful protest against the Nakatomi Corporation, which was goaded into violence by the actions of McClane. Ultimately, McClane threw Gruber from the 30th floor, even though Gruber was completely unarmed (or at least he was when he hit the ground). Even LAPD Deputy Chief Dwayne T. Robinson denounced the actions, calling McClane a “nutcase” who should have “just stayed put.”

    No justice, no peace.

  86. Mitch M.

    There is no doubt biden is on cholinesterase inhibitors.

    It’s a good idea because the peripheral anion site of ACHe is a known driver of amyloidosis.

  87. Seriously, how messed up is this. Believe the woman no matter how many false allegations she has made before ! How come the police / DPP are trying to go ahead with the case. Don’t know the details of the case but wonder if there is any evidence against him apart from hers.

    “In this case, a man known as Jackmain has been prevented from introducing evidence at his trial of 12 incidents in which the complainant allegedly made false sexual assault claims — a situation the trial judge labelled an “affront to justice”.

    Plus $5,000 per week for care of a TAS kid !

  88. Doomlord:
    You really need to start thinking of a restraining order for Graeme.
    He seems determined to do you harm – at least to your reputation.

  89. Stimpson J. Cat

    It’s hard to tell what this pope is aware of and what decisions he is making.

    The Pope is not an oracle;
    he is infallible in very rare situations,
    as we know.

  90. JC

    Betty, take your meds. Trust me, you sound stupider and weirder when you’re off them , you turtlehead.

  91. We should just be grateful Gruber was white because if he had been black there would be riots instead of just a memorial.

    “Gruber was part of a mainly peaceful protest against the Nakatomi Corporation, which was goaded into violence by the actions of McClane.”.

  92. Doomlord:
    You really need to start thinking of a restraining order for Graeme.
    He seems determined to do you harm – at least to your reputation.

    +1

  93. JC

    Stoush troll alert.

    See sinc , getting rid of this redneck loser would save you lots of pixels and the place would have a higher IQ.
    But you know this.

  94. JC

    Driller

    You’ve placed the site in more legal jeopardy than others – including Bird.
    You’ve made numerous slanderous accusations against others of a sexual nature along with blue-collar racist comments that have been removed from the site buy the blog owner. Just recently, you were warned about your putrid behaviour. Do I need to post the link?  I wouldn’t be casting stones at “bird’s” if I were you, you plussing, hypocritical slob.

  95. Stimpson J. Cat

    at least to your reputation.

    Look,
    I really don’t know if Economists actually have reputations to lose, do they?
    I mean if you are consistently wrong then your reputation is for being consistently wrong,
    and you have literally nothing to lose.

    And let’s be honest,
    losing reputation is nowhere near as traumatic as losing your hair.
    Everyone knows this.

  96. JC

    I mean if you are consistently wrong then your reputation is for being consistently wrong,
    and you have literally nothing to lose.

    Stimson, if someone is consistently wrong, it’s almost as good as being right. Recall what that great man, Geroge Costanza once said about this. It goes something like this..

    I think about what I want to do and then do the opposite.

  97. JC

    Interesting piece in the NYTimes no less highlighting a hidden Trump voter and worrying about how many are there.

    Meet a Secret Trump Voter

    ‘Being a lesbian who’s voting for Trump is like coming out of the closet again.’

    Chris is a registered Democrat in her 50s who lives in Manhattan. She’s well-educated, well-traveled and well-informed. She has voted for candidates of both parties over the years and was enthusiastic for Bernie Sanders in 2016.

    She’s asked me not to publish her last name. It would not go down well for her at the store where she works as a manager if her colleagues knew that she plans to vote for Donald Trump.

    Chris is also gay. “Being a lesbian who’s voting for Trump is like coming out of the closet again,” she tells me.

    Readers of this newspaper who conjure an image of a Trump voter probably think of people like Mark and Patricia McCloskey, the couple who pointed guns at protesters outside their St. Louis home in late June. But if Trump defies current polling and wins again, it’ll be thanks to a discreet base of support from voters like Chris, who fit into none of the cultural or demographic stereotypes of the Trump base.

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    It’s worth understanding where she’s coming from.

    Start with the economy. “I haven’t seen double digit [gains] in my 401(k) since the internet boom of the late ’90s,” she says. “It went up 19.6 percent” in the year before the pandemic. “Look at the stock market,” she says. (Up about 35 percent from four years ago.) “Look at gas prices.” (About the same as what they were when Trump took office, but well below the $3.31 per gallon at the midpoint of the Obama administration.)

    “This is everyday stuff that affects me,” she says. “I don’t care about Afghanistan and the Middle East. I care about having a job. I care about having health care through my company. I was out of a job a few years ago. Obamacare priced me out [of private insurance]. It was like, $560 a month. Then Obama’s website blew up. He can’t get the website right?”

    Then there’s the pandemic. “Is Trump trying to play it down?” she asks. “Yeah. But when this first started, the news media was saying that millions of people were going to die. And look at it: 200,000, compared to the population.”

    What worries her more are the effects of the response to the pandemic in a liberal city like New York. “Crime is in my neighborhood now. There’s a homeless encampment near me that’s growing and growing. They have a living room and a shower curtain and that’s where they go to the bathroom. I have a guy who walks in front of the store every day. In a diaper! And there’s lawlessness coming into the store every day, with an attitude of ‘Who’s gonna stop me?’” Regarding Mayor Bill de Blasio of New York, she adds, “I can’t put into words how inept this guy is.”

    I ask Chris whether Trump’s behavior has ever come close to being a deal breaker for her. She asks me to name some of the lowlights.

    “Grab ’em by the. …”: “Didn’t bother me at all. For every cad out there, there’s equally a gold digger who will let you do it.”

    The media as the enemy of the American people: “These days, yeah. Whenever I read a front-page story and I get to a disparaging adjective, I stop reading.”

    The Brett Kavanaugh nomination: “I didn’t believe Christine Blasey Ford for one second. Her lack of recollection; the fact that nobody could [contemporaneously] corroborate her account.”

    Trump-Russia: “The Clintons’ fingerprints are all over this. I’m really glad we have Bill Barr as A.G. to look into it.”

    Trump’s truculence on the world stage: “Everyone kowtows to Iran because they’re crazy. Now we have our own bit of crazy.”

    “Very fine people on both sides”: This one stops her. “That was really bad. He didn’t think it through but I think he believes himself.”

    So how does Chris feel about the Biden-Harris ticket? “Fifteen years ago, maybe I would have voted for Joe Biden. But he’s weak. And what did he do with his 40-odd years in Washington?” As for Kamala Harris, Chris dismisses her outright. “She doesn’t know what she believes. She won’t be the adult in the room.”

    You don’t have to agree with Chris on any of these points. You can note some of the inconsistencies in her views, most of all between her support for Sanders, who as president would have waged war on Wall Street, and her support for Trump, whose pro-Wall Street policies are a big reason that she supports him. And you can easily dismiss Chris as an outlier, an anecdote, a red voter in a blue state.

    That would be a mistake. If good political analysis were merely a matter of looking at big data, Hillary Clinton would be president today. Analysis also requires us to listen attentively to individual voters. If the Democratic Party and its allies can’t hold on to a voter like Chris, who else might they be losing?

  98. Zatara

    At the last moment Biden’s campaign demands 2 breaks during tonight’s 90 minute debate.

    In other words they want to limit his total exposure to 70 minutes with two major opportunities to retreat to his corner when being pummeled to get a little coaching up. At this point Trump has not agreed to that.

    Speaking of coaching, Biden has also now backed out of the agreement to have an inspection to make sure neither candidate has an earpiece.

    Weak as

  99. Zatara

    Tulsi Gabbard Raises the Alarm: ‘Ballot Harvesting Has Allowed for Fraud and Abuse’

    While Gabbard’s world view is about 80% left-wing, she has flashes of integrity and common sense which make her wholly unsuited to membership in the current Democrat party.

  100. Entropy

    Richard III died heroically in battle, betrayed by some supporters, fighting for England against the invader Henry Tudor and his foreign mercenaries.

    I thought he had his head cut off accidentally by his nephew Prince Edmund (who styled himself in black, including stylish point shoes) while the king was getting himself a horse?

  101. notafan

    ‘You don’t read much’

    I read enough, and I consider myself to have some discernment while a) be a little bit charitable and b) not believing every kooky conspiracy theory that fits in with that uncharitable world view.

  102. Knuckle Dragger

    Further from Top Ender’s link last night:

    Allan Brahminy/Stauffer’s show, nestled away in the Litchfield National Park was quite the junket for a while. It got shit tins of NT cash around 2016 or so, then it slowly drifted off their platform of people and things to shovel money at – potentially because Brahminy himself finally came under scrutiny for his Aboriginalness, or lack thereof.

    The only really confusing thing is how long it took for the NT gummint to shake him off the tit. Generally, and because there are so many competing indig organisations/people punching on over funding they’re usually straight out of the blocks checking people’s ‘status’.

    Brahminy/Stauffer describes himself as a ‘principal indigenous practitioner’. I don’t think anyone knows what that means.

  103. Knuckle Dragger

    Oh yeah.

    Someone yesterday morning mentioned something about ‘girly men’ in the NT.

    If I ever find out who that was, I’m going to give him or her such a pinch.

  104. notafan

    Thanks for nyt article JC.

    It’s fantastic to see someone left leaning actually look at the facts and letting those inform her views rather than blindly following the leader.

  105. she has flashes of integrity and common sense

    Haha, JC, get in here!

  106. Knuckle Dragger

    Jaysus. These people have not learned, and will not learn. The Hun:

    ‘Tensions are rising over the race to replace Jenny Mikakos in parliament, with Victorian Labor’s writing to the party’s national executive reminding them about rules for equal female representation at coming elections.’

    The phrases ‘well-meaning’ and ‘inclusive’ are clearly not ringing bells.

    ‘The decision over who will take Ms Mikakos’ spot in the Legislative Council will be discussed by the national executive on Thursday, with the party’s Victorian wing still being audited over allegations of branch stacking.

    ‘But Victorian Labor, writing on behalf of its administrators [by which they mean someone in Albanese’s office], has also written to the body advising them of the risk of breaching their affirmative action rules if a man is appointed to the job.

    ‘Senior figures within the party have argued this week that five of Labor’s female upper house MPs are sitting in seats considered marginal, creating the potential for a drop to 25 per cent representation at the next election.

    ‘Emily’s List, a group within Labor supporting the careers of female politicians, has also called for the position to be filled by a woman.

    ‘AFL executive Sheena Watt and staffer Prue Stewart are among those believed to be in contention amid a push within the party to appoint an Indigenous woman to the parliament.’

    Unbelievable. Who’s in charge of Unified Security now? Give whoever it is the Health portfolio. They might as well.

  107. calli

    For readers of Richard III novels, try The Sunne in Splendour by Sharon Penman. Covers the reigns of Edward IV and Richard III and does it well.

    Five paws 🐾 🐾🐾🐾🐾

  108. notafan

    KD that fellow seems to have been smart enough not to have claimed a aboriginal blood but merely aboriginality via a a different path.

    It’s funny how ABC run interference for Pascoe but have this guy in their sights.

    Also very weird that only Tasmania uses services. Perhaps Tasmanian bureaucrats like travelling to NT for meetings.

  109. notafan

    But Twitter assures me Victoria is all in for Danlabor so how can they be predicting a massive loss of female held seats?

  110. Knuckle Dragger

    Attenborough’s made another mistake here. Pissing off the Maltesers without good reason never ends well.

    ‘Malta is demanding the return of a 23 million year old fossilised giant shark tooth that was gifted to Prince George by environmentalist Sir David Attenborough.

    ‘Sir Attenborough gave the ancient specimen — believed to be from the prehistoric animal Carcharocles megalodon up to almost three times the length of a great white shark — to the young future king during a visit to Kensington Palace last week.

    ‘He originally found during a holiday in Malta in the late 1960s.’

    Sir David Seal-Killer would have been better off giving the young Prince a reminder of Aunty Meghan. A prehistoric breast implant or something.

  111. notafan

    I’m reading a Whimsey atm Murder Must Advertise .

    I’d forgotten how nicely Dorothy L writes. I suspect the British are still as class conscious now as they were then though.
    I’ve picked up and put down a dozen books these last few weeks, covid oppression and not feeling tolerant of modern mores as presented in most modern fiction.

    Miss Sayers now a breath of fresh air.

  112. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘aboriginality via a a different path’

    Like Crocodile Dundee, yes. Unfortunately for Stauffer and his NT funding stream the actual indig recognised that they don’t name random people after arbitrary concepts like wildness and freedom, but use skin names instead. He’d be more traditionally believable if he’d come up with a skin name not from saltwater country, like Jabanardi, Jambajimba, or Nungala for the ladeees.

    Brahminy’s traditional meaning is ‘a breed of cattle, of which each animal is the size of a jacked-up Prado.’

  113. calli

    Not sure what Broelman’s on about. I thought Trump was an American. And the blinkers still on Rowe.

    Nothing of interest in Australia? Nothing at all?

    We see you. We hear you. And we know who owns you.

  114. notafan

    Attenborough must have a nice collection of casually acquired antiquities.

    Reminds me of those Brits* who casually hacked of the heads off statues/tombs they fancied and popped them in rucksack to take home.

    *Not the only ones to do it for sure, something I saw in the British museum one time.

  115. calli

    Naturally, I reminisced last night about Mont St Michel in France, not St Michael’s mount rising from the mythical “Summer Country” near Glastonbury.

    Never been there, but would love to see it, along with the ruined abbey. Closest I came to it was Stonehenge. And that was an eye-opener too.

  116. Herodotus

    It’s reported in The Australian that the ANZ is giving the cold shoulder to any company involved in fossil fuels.
    That’s not their job, and will not impress most shareholders.

  117. Herodotus

    Excellent work by Leak again, thanks Tom.
    Biden’s refusal to undergo earpiece checkup would be an admission of guilt.
    The two breaks requested are likewise an admission that something is up.

  118. Natural Instinct

    OMG
    Just heard on ABC radio.

    1. An app that links people to a mobile phone to a location – is just what we have been looking for
    2. I think that things will continue forever like masks in public places and social distancing rules will apply

    Who will put these public Health Nazis back under the totalitarian rocks they came from?
    As summer comes and the virus dies away these pundits must beld to account and publically shunned. ( i do like the idea of 2 minutes of hate)
    But i seriously doubt if any pollie will stand up.

  119. notafan

    The best things about Mount St Michel is that it once more houses a religious congregation and that I was able to fulfill one of my mother’s girlhood dreams and take her there.
    The other was to be like Katy in what Katy did and visit Lake Como, also ticked off her list.

    With bonus visit to Fatima which she never thought she would see. I didn’t even tell her we were going to Lisbon, come on Mum, we have a train to catch.

    On one of those several Being Dragged Around Europe tours.

    I have a stash of Euros, a brand new suitcase, a sister with good news but a few more months of treatment just to be sure and we’ll be off as soon as Scomo and the rest of the ‘National Cabinet ‘ grow a brain.

    Just one between them will be fine.

  120. johanna

    notafan
    #3601690, posted on September 30, 2020 at 6:14 am

    I’m reading a Whimsey atm Murder Must Advertise .

    I’d forgotten how nicely Dorothy L writes. I suspect the British are still as class conscious now as they were then though.

    There are also several very good dramatisations of the Lord Peter Wimsey novels on Youtube – just type his name into the search bar. They are stylish adaptations of a stylish writer’s work.

  121. Perfidious Albino

    KD – interesting AFL link in that ALP piece – no surprise, but still.

  122. notafan

    Tis funny that the WHO only recommend fabric masks in situations where social distancing of more than a metre is not possible ie public transport.

    Seems to be zero science supporting mask wearing in the great outdoors.

    I’m seeing more and more token mask wearing where there are only a few people about.

  123. Knuckle Dragger

    The journos’ union and Melbourne dance teachers. Working in partnership to scuttle the chances of Queensland kids getting a run on the Gabba on Grand Final day:

    ‘The AFL has been forced into more damage control in Queensland after the arts community reacted angrily to a call out for volunteer dancers to perform at the Gabba grand final. A request was sent to dance schools asking for “strong performers” over the age of 15 to take part in a “once in a lifetime opportunity” at the “largest mass scale televised event of the year”.’

    Not good enough. The union, heroically standing up against children being given lifelong memories:

    ‘“We’ve had such a hard year,” the Media Entertainment and Arts Alliance’s Sam Gaskin told The Project.

    “The AFL Grand Final is known as a big gig for many professional dancers. I feel like it’s a real representation of what we do and don’t value in this country.”

    ‘The AFL, and the executive producers planning the entertainment, responded by clarifying there would be paid professionals used and the casting call was for amateurs and an attempt to engage the local Brisbane community in the day.

    ‘But Melbourne dance teacher Erin Kennedy wasn’t buying the explanation.’

    Of course not. Clever, povo-stricken Melbun hipstress dance teachers are all over the non-volunteer-paying bastards.

    ‘“Even if this was purely sent to dance schools, now more than ever — in a time when the arts are really struggling to survive — the dance schools need recognition these skills these young performers are investing in don’t happen in a void,” she told The Project.

    “If they wanted people to volunteer they would have put out a public advertisement and invited every man and their dog to take part,” Melbourne dancer Elijah Ziegeler added, in an interview with Nine newspapers.

    ‘The AFL said it regularly sourced volunteer performers for its events.’

    Fuck off dance wankers. If you’re 15 or over and any good you’d be in the Olympics, like your retarded entitled teachers. But you’re not, so you’re screeching not about an opportunity denied you, but the pay packets you would have got for ‘coaching and consulting’ fees.

    I’m with Gil on this one. Make the half-time entertainment a sheepdog trial or show highlights on a big screen instead, pausing only to put up messages on it that say ‘Your Kids. Denied An Opportunity To Be On The Ground Right Now Because Of Greedy Irrelevant Arts Fuckwits.’

  124. Natural Instinct

    More radio

    De Blasio says some New Yorkers in certain zipcodes (i wonder what that code mans?) are refusing to wear masks and are congregating. He promises ro the down with a firm hand

    Are we so shell shocked that we don’t hear the words these clowns are saying anymore?

  125. Entropy

    Now I can’t get the Blackadder theme out of my head.

  126. Entropy

    Most girls over 15 that still go to dance schools are so good they shit all over paid dancers. Fact.

  127. Knuckle Dragger

    Instinct:

    ‘certain zipcodes’

    Zipcodes are hiding-in-plain-sight numeric codes, that when run against the cipher in the REAL White House tell you where the tunnel entrances are and the ratio of children to overseers in each.

    @TheStorm

  128. Knuckle Dragger

    Ted,

    #6. Will be used today.

  129. Twostix

    Caboolture childcare centre allegedly left child [toddler] in bus for 1.5 hours

    We’ll have to go back to the late 18th century to find a generation of parents who were as callous and indifferent to their babes – dumping them onto low cost baby farms, as this one.

  130. 2dogs

    This mob is trumpeting themselves as a left wing PragerU.

    This is not a good start:

  131. Natural Instinct

    Knuckles
    Stop having fruit loops for breakfast – far too much sugar for you

  132. notafan

    KD

    Confusing message from dance school lady, I guess she’s asking for a free plug.

    Interestingly after Fiona Patten’s bubble triumph in which she sold Victoria down the state of emergency river for the ludicrous bubble rule, she’s now actively chasing the reopening of dance schools in regional Victoria.

    I was tempted to ask what she was doing for Victorian Christians who are still limited to 10 at services but didn’t bother. Christians aren’t part of the Reason Party constituency.

  133. notafan

    Thanks Jo. Not watching TV atm. Toolonginlockdownitis

  134. notafan

    I had a quick look at Seven-Nilligan’s Twitter comments on the Roman Holiday. Out of their clutches. Praise God.

  135. Twostix

    The ugly little truth of daycare is that abuse and neglect are rampant and in their heart of hearts everyone knows it.

    $25 an hour outer suburb prole woman eventually resents you and 20 others dumping your screaming half sick antibiotic laced babies on her and her coworkers while you swan off to your quiet $50 hour “job” in the city.

    If you don’t care about them, why would she?

  136. Leigh Lowe

    I have a stash of Euros, a brand new suitcase, a sister with good news but a few more months of treatment just to be sure and we’ll be off as soon as Scomo and the rest of the ‘National Cabinet ‘ grow a brain.

    Going to Lake Scomo?

  137. Farmer Gez

    Scoop from the ABC.

    Biden a clear winner in the first debate.

  138. Leigh Lowe

    “The AFL Grand Final is known as a big gig for many professional dancers. I feel like it’s a real representation of what we do and don’t value in this country.”

    Yep.
    Let’s fly a bunch uncoordinated arm wavers to Brissy for a solid earn, so they can do five minutes of uncoordinated arm waving, and piss everbody off by unfurling a Black Rights or #IstandwiffDan banner at the end.
    No-one gives a shit.

  139. Shy Ted

    I have to apologise and admit I have a copy of the Courier Mail from a week or 2 ago, free with groceries I think. Been using it as kitchen paper and there’s an article about child sox off enders which I took no notice of. “3000 monsters prowl our suburbs?” is the first line and 20 pics with blurry faces and black bands over the eyes to de-identify. All the states and territories. Was waiting for the jug to boil so took a closer look, all white. Only 3 have been jailed. Half trying to access or convey child porn. Most of the others have overseas travel restrictions. None with convictions for actual soxual contact with a child.
    Yep, the face of evil in Australia is white men doing things at the milder end of the spectrum.

  140. calli

    Product Review on my brand new, Westinghouse ceramic cooktop – replacement for the SOTA euro induction top that cooked itself and required the GDP of a small African country to repair.

    Goes like the clappers and, apart from some residual heat on the glass, is basically no different in performance to the induction. Also means I can use non magnetic cookware like a tagine if I so desire.

    Induction. Do Not Buy. You have been warned.

  141. calli

    Oh, and the repair man carries replacement elements in his van as stock. No need to wait on containers held up by millionaire Sydney wharfies.

  142. Mater

    Breaking news from Victoria:

    Residents living in Melbourne’s Cardinia Shire have launched a petition to be reclassified as regional Victoria, with zero active cases in the region.
    More than 2500 community members have signed the petition, calling for the state government to rezone Cardinia Shire as regional.

    A comment from the story on FB:

    “Literally 99% of Victorians want their suburb or town reclassified as New South Wales.”

    Fact check: True

  143. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3601721, posted on September 30, 2020 at 7:03 am

    Ted,

    #6. Will be used today.

    The Lowe household. Mrs L wants jar opened.
    Scenario 1 : I twist the lid off effortlessly. Adopt a couple of iron-man comp poses, declare myself to be Leigh ‘The Rock’ Lowe and strut back to the couch.
    Scenario 2 : Lid will not budge. Three minutes of hot water and tapping until it comes loose. Flounce off whingeing about “shoddy Chinese made containers”.

  144. calli

    In other news, NSW has recorded zero Covid infections for the fourth consecutive day.

    But “officials” are vewy, vewy worried about the low testing turnout.

    Oh my aching sides. Seems the proles are a lot more intelligent than the government thinks they are. I wonder what inducements will be offered for punters to roll up for probing?

  145. Leigh Lowe

    Induction. Do Not Buy. You have been warned.

    Yikes.
    Just did.

  146. Mater

    declare myself to be Leigh ‘The Rock’ Lowe and strut back to the couch.

    So you actively endorse the Biden-Harris ticket?
    I’m disappointed. Back to the knitting for you.

  147. Mater

    Induction. Do Not Buy. You have been warned.

    Been going strong for 10 years. Very convenient.
    I think the brand is more important than the actual technology.

  148. Leigh Lowe

    So you actively endorse the Biden-Harris ticket?
    I’m disappointed. Back to the knitting for you.

    Mmmyes.
    Maybe I need to drop The Rock from my jar twisting act.

  149. Farmer Gez

    Olive jars have a vacuum seal from hell. I can strip the thread off a bolt but these bastards are hard work.
    It’s probably the oil making a perfect airtight lock. You can’t beat physics.

  150. calli

    LL, you might be lucky. It’s like the Little Girl with the Curl – when it’s bad, it’s horrid.

    When the repairman turned the beast over and exposed the gizmos, it was an electronic maze. The space shuttle had fewer circuits. Replacement part – eye wateringly expensive. His comment – everything is becoming ludicrously complex when all it needs to do is something incredibly simple – heat up.

    And this in an age when virtually no one cooks from scratch anyway.

  151. Leigh Lowe

    Calli, we have only had ours a couple of months bit so far, so good.
    As Mater says, I think the technology is all the same but manufacturing standards might vary.
    How long before yours went on the blink?

  152. calli

    Mater, all the replacement parts are manufactured in the same factories. This thing was Italian made in Italy (no doubt by Chinese Covid imports). I have just been unlucky with electronic gear.

    I blame the Tomago smelter for spikes! Curse you Big Aluminium!😡

  153. Bruce of Newcastle

    Soap is racist.

    NPR features author who claims hygiene is a social construct – has not showered in 5 years (28 Sep, via BCF)

    When NPR asks him “How did your identity as a cisgendered white male influence your reporting on this subject?”, he replies with the following.

    “Probably one of the main reasons I’ve been able to go so long without using [shampoo and deodorant] is because of the privilege of my position in American society.

    Fortunately he works for a radio station, so we don’t have to see him or smell him.

  154. Hmmmmm…..
    Bill Gates and Fauci were roomies in college.
    Soros funded their Vax company.

  155. Farmer Gez

    My pet hate on SKY is Michael Ware.

    He uses the “bush” accent as cover for hard left political agendas.

    Michael Ware is a native of Brisbane (Queensland), Australia. He is a graduate of Brisbane Grammar School, and he earned a Bachelor of Laws and a degree in Political Science from the University of Queensland.

    I rest my case.

  156. Checking Lolita Express flight logs for “L.L” as we speak..

  157. Leigh Lowe

    But “officials” are vewy, vewy worried about the low testing turnout.

    OK.
    Victorianistan.
    1. If we lock you up, infections will reduce.
    2. So they lock us up.
    3. Testing reduces, presumably because of lower infections.
    4. They then worry about lower testing rates.
    FMD.
    Hot Button Sutton was all over it before he got stood on the naughty step for not standing wiff Dan.
    “There are more people out there with these symptoms.”
    Based on what?
    “I just know there are.”
    After he introduces the biggest disruption to the transmission of any bug ever (so has no historical comparative baseline) but “just knows”.

  158. Mater

    Mater, all the replacement parts are manufactured in the same factories. This thing was Italian made in Italy (no doubt by Chinese Covid imports). I have just been unlucky with electronic gear.

    There’s your mistake.
    Mine is German.
    Germans manufacturers have a longer history of… [poor taste – Sinc]

  159. notafan

    Calli I need new oven. Probably getting a Smeg duel fuel. Though I hate cleaning the gas top I don’t like induction. They are everywhere in Europe. I found most of the time the turning on and off very irritating. Super sensitive buttons that required special wrist action.

  160. Leigh Lowe

    calli

    #3601761, posted on September 30, 2020 at 7:59 am

    Mater, all the replacement parts are manufactured in the same factories. This thing was Italian made in Italy (no doubt by Chinese Covid imports). I have just been unlucky with electronic gear.

    I blame the Tomago smelter for spikes! Curse you Big Aluminium!

    Our stuff is Kraut.
    But yes, we had a brown-out a couple of weeks ago and the ovens started looking like a disco with lights flickering.
    Hit the isolator switches straight away.

  161. Boambee John

    Calli

    Never been there, but would love to see it, along with the ruined abbey. Closest I came to it was Stonehenge. And that was an eye-opener too.

    Stonehenge looks huge in most photos, but is quite small close up.

    Still very impressive, however.

  162. Mater

    But yes, we had a brown-out a couple of weeks ago and the ovens started looking like a disco with lights flickering.

    In Vic and SA, that just indicates a change of wind speed.

  163. Mother Lode

    He claims he was abandoned on a riverbank as a baby by his biological mother and adopted by an Indigenous family which named him Brahminy — meaning wild and free.

    Seems a weird name for Indigines to give a kid.

    I make no claim to knowing how Aboriginal names are given but the actual choice of words themselves seem to be deliberately chosen to make an impression on people of Western culture.

    Wild and Free have connotations in English. For traditional Aborigines ‘Free’ would mean not detained (by police, other tribes). And Wild? Everything was wild. They did not keep animals.

    In the Western tradition ‘free’ carries the sense of freedom from oppression, from arbitrary use of force, safety while exercising intellectual and spiritual action and discourse. Wild as a good thing probably comes from the Romantics when it meant unsullied by civilisation but in tune with nature. Prior to that ‘wild’ things were unruly, unpredictable, savage, and outsider.

    If ‘free’ just means ‘not in the clink’, and if wild just means ‘like everything’ which is more or less meaningless since it does not impart a distinctive particular idea, then it not particularly inspiring.

    It would seem an obvious fabrication. Something for a novel, perhaps, where the author is trying to evoke certain thoughts without having to spell them out explicitly.

    Why do people with their hands on the purse strings have to fall for this nonsense so easily?

    So they get the virtuous feeling without any cost to themselves – thanks to OPM.

  164. mh

    Nyunggai Warren Mundine AO
    @nyunggai
    ·
    5h
    Why am I not surprised. The man has become a crazied authoritarian. #SackDan

    https://twitter.com/nyunggai/status/1310993417267286016?s=20

  165. Farmer Gez

    The Netherlands had peak infection rates of around 1,000 per day in the April Covid event and deaths of about 150.

    The second wave is peaking at 3,000 positives and yet deaths are about 15.

    Three times the rate for one tenth the deaths. Other countries show the same trend.
    Chairman Dan’s evil virus is curiously flexible, unlike the man himself.

  166. mh

    A couple of headlines at the paywalled Courier Mail

    LUXURY BRISBANE DAY SPA TO CLOSE WITHIN WEEKS
    The founders of one of Brisbane’s most successful and luxurious day spas have announced “with sadness” that it will take no further bookings as it now plans to close within weeks.

    And

    POPULAR COAST CAFE CLOSES: ‘WE LOST THE FIGHT WITH COVID’
    A popular beachside cafe is set to close after “ridiculous” COVID-19 restrictions killed soaring patronage, with the owners revealing what they’ve had to do to make ends meet.

  167. Top Ender

    Entropy:

    …at 5:20 am: Richard III died heroically in battle…

    I thought he had his head cut off accidentally by his nephew Prince Edmund (who styled himself in black, including stylish point shoes) while the king was getting himself a horse?

    You seem confused. Let me help you:

    My Kingdom for a Horse is a 120 seat licensed cafe with on site coffee roastery in the heart of the City of Adelaide. The cafe offers a seasonal, all-day a la carte menu using the very best, locally sourced and ethically produced ingredients.

    There you go.

  168. feelthebern

    Richard III wasn’t a patch on Rambo III.

  169. sfw

    The only way to cook inside the home is GAS, electrical cooking should be avoided and only used if gas can’t be got.

  170. hzhousewife

    Farmer Gez, brand new vacuum sealed jars are easy to open. Use a solid kitchen knife to break the seal by pushing it up under the lid and twisting. Makes a very satisfying thump noise as the air rushes in.

  171. Top Ender

    notafan…at 6:05 am…Perhaps Tasmanian bureaucrats like travelling to NT for meetings.

    Bet you all the meetings take place from May to October.

    Tasmania goes to crap in those months.

    The NT has its Dry season, with some great weather: hot days and cool nights.

  172. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The story of the pool at Port Keats…

    Cite you the outback community in South Australia, where a missing Land cruiser turned up – in the brand new swimming pool!

  173. Mother Lode

    It’s reported in The Australian that the ANZ is giving the cold shoulder to any company involved in fossil fuels.
    That’s not their job, and will not impress most shareholders.

    I would guess that most of ANZ’s shareholders are other large businesses, Superfunds etc. that are onboard with the same nonsense. They may feel that they can afford to have ANZ (et al) carry on with this nonsense, especially because they run their own businesses with the same obsequiousness to social fads.

    Things would have to get bad for them to be counting their pennies enough to demand the stock be made as valuable as possible.

    I would guess, anyway.

  174. From Daily Mail.

    Two Melburnians went for a walk in their local park following all lockdown rules
    Decided to scribble a ‘free Melbourne’ sign and carry it, but cops stopped them
    Police said carrying the sign was a sign of protest, and protesting was banned

  175. Mother Lode

    We’ll have to go back to the late 18th century to find a generation of parents who were as callous and indifferent to their babes – dumping them onto low cost baby farms, as this one.

    Instead of Gin Lane we now have Muh Career Boulevarde.

  176. Top Ender

    WHY HOLD ONLY BUSINESS TO DEADLY DOUBLE STANDARD?
    JANET ALBRECHTSEN

    What the Victorian government has done cannot be dismissed as ‘just politics’

    There is a simple way to understand the deadly double standards that apply to public servants and politicians, on the one hand, and directors and corporate executives, on the other.

    Ask what would happen if 768 Australians died due to the actions of a mine owner, or a bus company, or amusement park. If a chorus line of executives fronted an inquiry saying “it wasn’t me” or “I don’t know anything”, how would we respond? If the CEO claimed no knowledge, couldn’t pinpoint who did what, and put it down to a “creeping assumption”, there would be hell to pay. And then some.

    Slide down the scale. Just recently, Rio Tinto chief executive Jean-Sebastien Jacques signalled his resignation after the destruction of an Aboriginal heritage site. David Murray resigned as AMP chairman after the board promoted an employee who, several years earlier, was guilty of “relatively modest” breaches of AMP’s code of conduct.

    But when Victorian politicians and public servants masterminded a hotel quarantine system using untrained private security guards that, not surprisingly, led to 768 deaths, to say nothing of other damage done, many people simply shrug their shoulders and say, it’s terrible — then wave it away as politics.

    Outgoing health minister Jenny Mikakos is a lousy example of ministerial responsibility. She denied she was responsible, blamed her department for not sharing information, and resigned because she said she could not remain in cabinet following the Premier’s testimony on Friday.

    Nor has the Premier taken genuine responsibility. He’s still there. Deflecting in front of the Coate inquiry, Daniel Andrews couldn’t say who was responsible for the private security guards. The Premier also dumped on his own chief public servant, Chris Eccles, for not telling him the commonwealth had offered troops to assist with the hotel quarantine program in April.

    Though some Labor MPs are privately complaining that Andrews threw Mikakos under the bus, their radio silence aids and abets his Houdini-like escape from accountability.

    If we, the people, keep shrugging our shoulders at this as just politics, we accept not just incompetent politicians and their dissembling behaviour, but a dangerous double standard that applies in Australia today. We are allowing politicians to run a protection racket, exempting themselves from basic accountability standards they routinely impose on people who run a business.

    Yes, Andrews could get the boot at the ballot box. But that can happen if a leader introduces an unpopular new tax policy. Unless there are more serious consequences, this hotel quarantine disaster will, by our tacit approval, set a new low bar for standards we accept from politicians. And that won’t end well for us.

    Politicians and public servants should not have a higher level of accountability than corporate executives. But today the balance is dangerously out of whack.

    At civil law, public servants can be liable for acts of misfeasance in public office. But making that case is hard: it requires a high level of knowledge or proof that they didn’t care about the consequences of their actions. Take the live export ban imposed by Labor minister Joe Ludwig in June 2011. The minister was found guilty of committing misfeasance in public office. The judge found he was “recklessly indifferent” to the consequences of the live export ban. But when the crown pays for the damages, where is the accountability?

    By contrast, politicians, and the public servants advising them, are never short of suggestions to hold directors and corporate executives to account for their behaviour, imposing very severe penalties.

    There are 723 sections in the Corporations Law that prescribe criminal penalties for directors, 367 of them carry a term of imprisonment, and 29 sections carry a maximum term of 15 years.

    There are also strict liability offences in the Corporations Law where directors must prove their innocence, in addition to 160 other strict liability offences in other commonwealth laws. Directors are also subject to “absolute liability” offences where they cannot rely on an honest and reasonable, but mistaken belief. Liability is also imposed in a raft of “positional” or “managerial” offences where a director is criminally liable for actions committed by a company even if a director was not personally involved in, and did not know of, the act.

    The Turnbull government introduced the federal Bank Executive Accountability Regime where bureaucrats can disqualify senior banking executives for breaches of the accountability provisions. Last year, the Morrison government extended this, renaming it the Financial Accountability Regime, to cover insurance and superannuation firms too.

    As Robert Gottliebsen reported in this newspaper on Monday, Victoria’s industrial manslaughter laws are among the toughest in the Western world with the aim to jail company directors for deaths in the workplace irrespective of their responsibility or control. And now we know why ministers and heads of departments fronting the Coate Inquiry into Hotel Quarantine couldn’t recall who was responsible for the decision to use untrained private security guards. As Victoria’s Minister for Training and Skills, Gayle Tierney, said in the Legislative Council last November, “the Premier, ministers and departmental secretaries are covered by this new offence”.

    But did the Andrews government seriously think that it would be prosecuted? The state’s regulator, WorkSafe Victoria, faces a big credibility test.

    As Gottliebsen also reported, the McGowan government in Western Australia is not making the same mistake: it is changing its proposed new industrial manslaughter laws to make sure politicians are not caught.

    It is an admission that the proposed laws are so unfair that they must not apply to politicians. Here is the double standard that underpins the protection racket: the McGowan government is saying that a death in the workplace is terrible, unless it involves a politician.

    To encourage more sensible policy, the starting point ought to be that politicians do not impose laws with criminal sanctions that they wouldn’t dream of applying to themselves. If laws are based on sound policy, they ought to apply equally to people responsible for workplaces whether they are in the private or public sector.

    Our regulatory system is killing our prospects of a fast economic revival. It is so out of kilter that it makes far more sense for someone to join the public service than to take risks by running a company.

    As one of the few politicians who straddled business and politics, Malcolm Turnbull understood only too well how politicians escape accountability. Writing in his autobiography, Turnbull asked: “What have I learned? … A company director who misleads his shareholders could end up in jail or ruined by litigation. Politicians routinely dissemble, the press gallery seldom calls them out, often connives in the deceit and, when they get away with it, praises them for their political skills.”

    While Turnbull said a lot of contestable things, this observation is spot-on. And after the biggest public policy failure in Australia in 50 years, it is high time that we demand a fairer reckoning of responsibility and liability when it comes to public servants and politicians. If we don’t, we should prepare for more, not fewer, deadly policy failures.

    Complete article from Oz print edition

  177. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    The only way to cook inside the home is GAS, electrical cooking should be avoided and only used if gas can’t be got.

    Exactly. So typically, evil narcissistic animist collectivist imbeciles like that vile american slag KKK have started screeching about the need to deny the little people this option, ’cause gerbil worming.

    It’s just about HOP Time for these totalitarian fuckwits.

  178. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Stonehenge looks huge in most photos, but is quite small close up

    It’s even smaller on stage.

  179. Farmer Gez

    hzhousewife
    #3601797, posted on September 30, 2020 at 8:44 am
    Farmer Gez, brand new vacuum sealed jars are easy to open. Use a solid kitchen knife to break the seal by pushing it up under the lid and twisting. Makes a very satisfying thump noise as the air rushes in.

    Don’t start using your common sense on me!
    Brute force must be tried first.

  180. Top Ender

    Someone having a slap at Susan Ryan on Facebook:

    John Bell
    tSp2ton3hlstoredd ·

    Not everything the late Senator Susan Ryan did was good & she also did a lot of harm ! She caused appalling heath for Indigenous people at the East Kimberley’s Kalumburu mission.

    Indigenous women grew 50 different fruits and veggies and the men managed thousands of cattle & goats. Everyone had to work for three hours a day and got home grown meat, fruit and veggies every day.

    Susan Ryan insisted that instead, they get the dole. So planes flew in grog & one of the best Australian health records became the worst and plastic bags litter the settlement for miles.

    Worse, when Father Serephin Sands repeatedly refused Senator Ryan’s request, what did she do ? Well the Bishop of Broome suddenly sacked Father Sands who was running Australia’s most successful Indigenous settlement. To satisfy her Canberra based intellectual purity, yet Kalumburu set an enviable successful Australian standard and unlike now, everyone went to school ! Thanks for nothing Senator Ryan !

  181. Cat Poll
    Who do we want to see at 11am –
    Presidential Trump?
    Or
    Savage Trump?
    Only one vote per player, thanks!

  182. Leigh Lowe

    He claims he was abandoned on a riverbank as a baby by his biological mother and adopted by an Indigenous family which named him …

    … Moses?

  183. Top Ender

    It’s all happening in the NT! / aka greedy southern law company finds gold strike

    Compo claim seeks millions

    JASON WALLS – NT News

    MEMBERS of the Stolen Generations in the NT could be in line for millions of dollars in compensation as part of a class-action lawsuit for being torn from their families by the Australian government.

    The legal action is being spearheaded by Shine lawyers, who will hold an information session on Wednesday for Territorians taken from their homes as part of the commonwealth government program between 1911 and the 1970s and their descendants.

    The lawyer handling the class action, Tristan Gaven, said up to 5000 people could be eligible for more than $100,000 each in compensation.

    “The census data said there was about 1800 surviving members of the (NT) Stolen Generations in 2016, so all told we don’t actually know exactly how many people were removed over that period but it would be in the thousands,” he said.

    Mr Gaven said while running a parallel suit aimed at recouping wages stolen from Aboriginal workers, lawyers were shocked to learn Stolen Generations families in the NT were yet to receive any compensation.

    “We were really surprised to realise that no compensation had been paid to any members of the Stolen Generations, particularly in circumstances where nearly every other state in the country has paid compensation,” he said.

    Stolen Generations Aboriginal Corporation chairwoman Eileen Cummings said the lawsuit was welcome, but she was “not holding my breath”.

    “We’re burying somebody every week because we’re all pretty old now, we’re in our 70s, 80s and 90s and we’re the original kids that were taken away,” she said.

    “We don’t want to build up their hopes and then have them all come crashing down again.”

    But Ms Cummings said it was time the federal government put its money where its mouth was following then prime minister Kevin Rudd’s historic apology in 2008.

    “All the other states have had some sort of compensation or reparations from the state governments, but because we’ve always been under the commonwealth we’ve never been able to get very far with them,” she said.

    The information session runs between 4pm and 6pm at the Tracy Village Sports Club.

  184. Good morning all.
    Terry McCrann in today’s Hun congratulating the Premier:

    ‘Congratulations Chairman Dan, you’ve done it – you’ve finally taken Victoria above the all important 90 percent compulsory acquisition mark.
    Under the ‘COVID Code rules’ – apparently agreed to match the Takeovers Code, any state that passes the 90 percent mark of all virus deaths for Australia, becomes entitled and arguably should be obliged to compulsorily ‘acquire’ those outstanding deaths in the other states.
    Heck, if the government a premier leads is so, so devastatingly and catastrophically incompetent as to rack up more than 90 percent of the nation’s virus deaths, surely it should ‘own’ them all, all 100 percent of them?
    After yesterday’s grim toll, Victoria which has just 26 percent of the nation’s population, now has 90.02 percent of all the recorded Australian COVID-19 virus deaths.
    This is the first time it’s breached the 90 percent mark. Both the actual number of deaths and the percentage will continue to track their grim climbs higher: hopefully, only slowly and – especially, the actual number of deaths – only slightly higher.
    Under the Takeovers Code, compulsory acquisition to claim the 100 percent ownership is done through what’s called a “Scheme Of Arrangement”.
    With Chairman Dan and the ‘covid code (of shame)’ it would be something similar – via perhaps a ‘Scheme of (utter) mal-arrangement’; otherwise known more generally and more accurately as ‘Dan’s Arrangement’.

    Quite enjoy reading McCrann when he gets all shitty and annoyed.

  185. calli

    There’s your mistake.
    Mine is German.
    Germans manufacturers have a longer history of… [poor taste – Sinc]

    Chuckle.

    Eytie for cooking, Cherman for the dishwashing and clothes and drying.

    You could say I chose the Italians for hotness and the Germans for the cleanup.

    Italy…you let me down!

  186. Roger

    My Kingdom for a Horse is a 120 seat licensed cafe with on site coffee roastery in the heart of the City of Adelaide. The cafe offers a seasonal, all-day a la carte menu using the very best, locally sourced and ethically produced ingredients.

    Can I order via Uber Eats on my smartphone powered by cobalt mined by children in the Congo?

  187. Farmer Gez

    Cat debate Poll.

    I’d like to see a savage Trump asking Biden to name his own family.

  188. Tom

    Who do we want to see at 11am –
    Presidential Trump?
    Or
    Savage Trump?

    Lampooning Trump, having fun mocking Sleepy Joe’s inability to even think straight. It’ll be a hard room, full of humourless Democrats, but it will be fun for Trump trying to make them laugh.

  189. Leigh Lowe

    In Vic and SA, that just indicates a change of wind speed.

    Yeah, I did wonder that.
    Some lights on, some off, flickering up and down.

  190. calli

    The only way to cook inside the home is GAS, electrical cooking should be avoided and only used if gas can’t be got.

    Agreed. Not to be had here, I’m afraid. Now on the outside of a perfectly boiled egg, the next test will be an omelette. Had to remember the slow to boil timing from my last ceramic – must be burned into the synapses.

    I want Very…Very Savage Trump. No quarter given to that foul fraud husk of a human. Make him have to reboot every ten seconds.

    And maybe try to show his hairy legs in an effort to appease the Orange Machine.

  191. Farmer Gez:

    Olive jars have a vacuum seal from hell. I can strip the thread off a bolt but these bastards are hard work.
    It’s probably the oil making a perfect airtight lock. You can’t beat physics.

    Did a fracture through the distal epiphyseal (wrist) bone after getting cranky with a recalcitrant lid.
    Went and bought an oil filter removal thingy – no probs.

  192. Leigh Lowe

    Farmer Gez

    #3601839, posted on September 30, 2020 at 9:22 am

    Cat debate Poll.

    I’d like to see a savage Trump asking Biden to name his own family.

    It will be a set piece.
    If Biden is on the left of stage, they will put his prompting ear-piece in his left ear, so he can turn towards Trump and hide it.
    Trump should walk to the far left of the stage and address Hiden, forcing him to turn and show the earpiece (or continue to look at a blank space on the other side).

  193. calli

    You guys struggling with lids need a jar key. Works like a charm.

  194. sfw

    Calli, is that soft boiled egg? Water boils at the same temp (depending on altitude) so it wouldn’t make a difference what form of energy was used to heat the water would it> Omelettes different matter altogether, difficult on electric cooking.

  195. Leigh Lowe

    The only way to cook inside the home is GAS, electrical cooking should be avoided and only used if gas can’t be got.

    No longer true.
    Induction heat control is so fine you can melt chocolate without a double boiler.

  196. sfw

    LL that’s why all professional chefs use induction, every restaurant has it, don’t they?

  197. Roger

    “We’re burying somebody every week because we’re all pretty old now, we’re in our 70s, 80s and 90s and we’re the original kids that were taken away,” she said.

    OK…I’ll bite:

    What would the live expectancy of these folks have been if they weren’t “taken away”?

    That was the point, was it not?

  198. calli

    True, sfw. The egg goes into the cold water and then it heats up. My old and now deceased induction had a function called “P” otherwise known here as Ludicrous Speed. It would bring the water to the boil in a flash.

    My new ceramic only goes to 9, so it’s a function of the heat transmitted (either by pulse or element) to the base of the pan to bring it to the boil. It’s also a function of the size of the pan (and egg size) too, but I always use the same one for eggs, so that’s moot.

    But that doesn’t stop the albumen in the egg starting to cook at low temp (think coddled). So once it gets to a rolling boil, the actual cook time for a jumbo egg is a lot shorter.

  199. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Was there not a poster here who recently noted that their fancy induction cooking system died and would have cost a gargantuan amount to replace?

    I’m perfectly happy with gas. Inexpensive, reliable and allows greater control over what you’re cooking. Electric cooktops are a clunky pain in the yartz.

  200. mh

    Paywalled at Courier

    WHY MINISTER MUST RESIGN OVER SPORTS GRANTS SCANDAL
    On the eve of what will be a hard-fought election for Labor, State Sports Minister Mick de Brenni must go over the latest sports ‘rorts’ scandal, writes the Editor. Here’s why his actions don’t add up.

  201. Old School Conservative

    Induction cooking – is that for first timers only?

  202. Arky

    I’m perfectly happy with gas.

    ..
    Anyone who doesn’t appreciate the power and versertility of gas has never been at my place after curry night.

  203. Nick

    I like the P function on induction.

  204. calli

    ‘Twas I, Spurgeon.

    Chocolate – place in zip bag, then into warm water bath. Wait. Cut corner of bag. Instant cheffie decorations without risk of seizure.

  205. lotocoti

    dumping your screaming half sick antibiotic laced babies on her and her coworkers while you swan off to your quiet $50 hour “job” in the city.

    It’s not just babes.
    A Sis handles attendance at some bucolic high school which has several trendy tree change townships within its catchment.
    You have to collect Lorelei/Atticus/Kourtney. S/H/It is sick as.
    But I work from home and can’t concentrate with …
    Collect S/H/It or child services will.

  206. Leigh Lowe

    Nick

    #3601861, posted on September 30, 2020 at 9:48 am

    I like the P function on induction.

    Is that Ultra-Zap?
    I love that.
    Press it and run out the front to watch the meter spin.

  207. Roger

    On the eve of what will be a hard-fought election for Labor, State Sports Minister Mick de Brenni must go over the latest sports ‘rorts’ scandal, writes the Editor.

    Anna’s prayers tonight:

    “Please God, can we have a covid outbreak?

    It would be very helpful. Ta.”

  208. notafan

    Someone on Twitter said LNP were doing sports rorts and labor never did that kind of thing.
    I’m confused.

  209. William the Conjuror

    Naturally, I reminisced last night about Mont St Michel in France, not St Michael’s mount rising from the mythical “Summer Country” near Glastonbury.

    Ah, memories. Alas, St Michael’s Tower near Glastonbury is not St Michael’s Mount.

  210. Leigh Lowe

    sfw

    #3601851, posted on September 30, 2020 at 9:36 am

    LL that’s why all professional chefs use induction, every restaurant has it, don’t they?

    Mmmyes.
    I know two chefs with the Saturn V burners at work.
    Both have induction at home.

  211. calli

    I’m sure I’ll find it eventually. 🤣

  212. Tom

    Fox’s Democrat talking head Juan Williams reminds me of that slippery black spic on the Menu Log ad. If he approached you in the street, you’d go for your gun.

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