Scientists condemn lockdowns as pointless and homicidal

The science is settled: lockdown supporters are self-interested lunatics and anti-science denialists.

The World Health Organization’s special envoy on COVID-19 urged world leaders this week to stop “using lockdowns as your primary control method.”

“We in the World Health Organization do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus,” Dr. David Nabarro said to The Spectator’s Andrew Neil. “The only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to reorganize, regroup, rebalance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted, but by and large, we’d rather not do it.”

Nabarro went on to point out several of the negative consequences lockdowns have caused across the world, including devastating tourism industries and increased hunger and poverty.

“Just look at what’s happened to the tourism industry in the Caribbean, for example, or in the Pacific because people aren’t taking their holidays,” he said. “Look what’s happened to smallholder farmers all over the world. … Look what’s happening to poverty levels. It seems that we may well have a doubling of world poverty by next year. We may well have at least a doubling of child malnutrition.”

Earlier this week, thousands of medical health experts signed their names to a petition calling for the end of coronavirus lockdowns, citing the “irreparable damage” they’ve caused.

“As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists, we have grave concerns about the damaging physical and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies, and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection,” read the petition, known as the Great Barrington Declaration. “Current lockdown policies are producing devastating effects on short and long-term public health.”

 
Focused Protection has been the most commonly advocated policy here at Catallaxy for several months. Those of us who insisted it was the best and only way forward were right. “Health officials” – depicted as disinterested overseers when they’ve really been acting as lickspittles for governments – were wrong. This is no longer up for debate. Lockdowns constitute state terrorism whose only purpose is to maintain the illusion that the citizenry is to blame for spikes and fictional “waves” in (overwhelmingly harmless) new “cases.”

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42 Responses to Scientists condemn lockdowns as pointless and homicidal

  1. publius

    alas the lockdowns haven’t been about public health… otherwise this warming wouldn’t be needed. the evidence and facts would have already made this clear.

  2. Tintarella di Luna

    State sanctioned terrorism against the people Victoria, Sutton is as responsible as the jug-eared imbecile and the governor of Victoria who has allowed this travesty to continue.

  3. 2dogs

    My hope is that there will be a reckoning after the pandemic ends.

    But, given the state of today’s media, I know that hope is likely in vain.

  4. Nob

    The situation now is that anything that casts doubt on the wisdom of lockdown is immediately linked with every bogeyman the left can think of.

    The left don’t have the numbers but they have the institutions.

  5. egg_

    State sanctioned terrorism against the people Victoria, Sutton is as responsible as the jug-eared imbecile and the governor of Victoria who has allowed this travesty to continue.

    And ScoMoron looks like the Hunchback’s National Cabinet b1tch.

  6. egg_

    Lockdowns constitute state terrorism whose only purpose is to maintain the illusion that the citizenry is to blame for spikes and fictional “waves” in (overwhelmingly harmless) new “cases.”

    If it’s indeed a psychopath in charge – shifting the blame from his bungled Quarantine to the citizenry.

  7. So will the government listen to the ‘experts’ in this case? Or are Australian experts more expert than overseas experts?

  8. Googoomuck

    If Dictator Dan had any sense, he’d seize upon this to climb out of the pit he has dug for himself. Political concerns would be rapidly overtaking public health issues for him at this point. He has been vague enough to give himself the option to pivot, Nureyev-like, to a removal of restrictions because “the science says so” and save his political skin. His calculations at the moment would be whether he would gain votes overall despite antagonizing the lockdown lovers.

  9. nb

    WHO officials finally say something sensible but no-one is listening any more.
    aka:
    Suddenly China decides it has damaged Trump enough. Provides reason for opening economies if Biden wins. In meantime CCP seriously hurting and not so keen on the pain.

  10. Megan

    If Dictator Dan had any sense, he’d seize upon this to climb out of the pit he has dug for himself

    Big if.

  11. yarpos

    Numbers is strangely absent. I thought it would be here telling us what common sense the lockdown is.

    I wonder if even one journo will bother to ask Dan why he is acting against WHO advice.

  12. Rebel with cause

    No one is responsive for the lockdowns, they were just a set of “creeping assumptions”.

  13. Mother Lode

    I keep getting, unsolicited, these links to a website which carries interesting stories.

    This one, Europe Versus U.S. on Coronavirus, which arrived this morning seems apposite.

  14. Herodotus

    Victorian voters need to do a focussed takedown – should have done it last time, so no sympathy.

  15. Dinky

    I’ve never been convinced that Andrews has been on a power trip. He’s a political animal & he’d know there’s no political upside to what he’s doing. No, my view is that he screwed up terribly & became a national embarrassment (mind you I thought he was an embarrassment before COVID) . This would have bruised his oversized ego & he’s been obsessed with setting it right ever since.

    He’s Captain Ahab & COVID is his Moby Dick and like Ahab he’s prepared to destroy Victoria in order to kill that f#cking whale.

  16. duncanm

    MACK
    #3615136, posted on October 12, 2020 at 7:42 am
    Time for this Factcheck to be re-done, Sinclair.

    The ABC. Focusing on the important issues. That’s what $1B gets you.

  17. Maman

    GooGooMuck

    “He has been vague enough to give himself the option to pivot, Nureyev-like, to a removal of restrictions because “the science says so” and save his political skin.”

    Yep, sure he can do “The Pivot”, and remove some of the draconian restrictions. But the State of Emergency and the State of Disaster are still in place, Victoria remains a POLICE STATE. All those ‘restrictions’ can be reintroduced at the stroke of a pen without Parliamentary oversight. Tomorrow the Victorian Parliament will be asked to vote to extend, for another six months, the notorious Omnibus Bill.

    Which is weird because every single day, at his Press Conference, Andrews restates, over and over again, that “The vast, vast majority of Victorians are doing the right thing”, that he’s “So proud of Victorians” BUT it seems we cannot be TRUSTED to “do the right thing” unless the Police control the state????

  18. notafan

    #IStandWithDanAndrews mob.

    Oooh you’re getting information from the spectator.

    Germs, germs everywhere.

    It’s irrelevant that the interviewee is Dr David Nabarro who is WHO special envoy for covid19 who had published separately on subject.

  19. Robbo

    Maybe someone from the WHO can get in touch with Daniel Andrews and let him know that lockdowns don’t work and should not be used. Right at the moment it might be difficult to contact our dear leader what with him hard at work deleting all those incriminating details from the call log on his phone but they should keep on trying.

  20. exsteelworker

    Whats happening in Victoriastan is criminal. Chairman Dan must be charged with work place manslaughter charges, oh i forgot. Politicians can kill 1000s their a hero, private sector CEO kills ONE they are a murderer.

  21. exsteelworker

    This new advice from the WHO is an order from their overlord Xi Jinping. “Open up , we’re starving”. The whole world has turned inwards, food stocks are staying at home. Can’t eat ironore, coal. The citizens of the CCP are starving.

  22. Gerry

    “Look what’s happening to poverty levels. It seems that we may well have a doubling of world poverty by next year… ” Proof positive for DHDan that his socialism tactics are effective. The ‘new poor’ is always a socialist objective.

  23. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    So why has that grotesque deformed jug eared imbecile extended the lockdowns? What possible excuse is there?

  24. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    must.crush.small.business.capitalist.swine

  25. Aynsley Kellow

    It’s serious! Biden just criticised Trump because he said when 100,000 people a day were dying[sic] ‘it is what it is’. Nobody seems to have noticed this latest addition to 200 million dead from Covid and 150m from gun violence.

  26. Roger

    Will any journalist put this to Sutton or Dangerous Dan at today’s press conference?

    Other than Peta Credlin, if she’s allowed in.

  27. Up The Workers!

    W.H.O.

    The “Wuhan Health Organisation”?

    Are these really the best people for Deadly Dan and his Cabinet of fork-tongued Dementia sufferers and finger-pointers to be getting all their health information from?

    Isn’t this how we got into this mess in the first instance with Deadly Dan’s Wuhan “Bat Soup and Toad Initiative”?

  28. dover_beach

    Clown scientist on 3AW contradicting WHO scientist. Saying that lockdown relevant in certain circumstances.

  29. Dinky

    Politicians can kill 1000s their a hero, private sector CEO kills ONE they are a murderer.

    Yes, it reminds me of the recent resignations of two Rio Tinto executives after “sacred” caves were destroyed in mining operation in WA and nobody died.

  30. Victorian voters need to do a focussed takedown – should have done it last time, so no sympathy.

    This is somewhat akin to saying Victorian voters keep voting the same and hoping for a different outcome. Not so, those imbeciles that vote Labor do so deliberately so that things do stay the same.

    Those who are fed up with this and many other things in Victoria never vote Labor.

  31. Speedbox

    Focused Protection has been the most commonly advocated policy here at Catallaxy for several months. Those of us who insisted it was the best and only way forward were right.

    Yep. Months ago.

    And just a few days ago I posted the following on another thread:

    This topic has been discussed extensively on the Cat and many will remember the early days when we talked about the options available. Targeted specific lockdowns to protect the elderly/infirm, control (as much as possible) the virus leaching into the broader community to promote herd immunity, keeping schools open, business to operate on reduced capacity with rotation of staff……there were many good ideas but not one (that I recall) suggested a full-on Stalinist lockdown. And this was from the participants of a relatively obscure blog. Jeezus, if we can come up with a range of good ideas, what the hell is wrong with the highly paid Government advisers? The so-called experts.

    But, our leaders were caught up in a stupidity vortex and as that vortex begins to run out of force in the face of overwhelming evidence that the official response was poorly considered, planned and executed, the narrative will shift. Commentary by our leaders, reinforced by the equally culpable MSM, will be that we must adjust to a new covid-normal way of life. That is, we must learn to live with this silent enemy and that a vaccine, although a worthy ideal, is still far into the future. Movement restrictions will be watered down, but a covid-safe ‘passport’ will become the norm, especially if you want to travel. Capacity restrictions of shops, clubs/pubs will be become permanently constrained by the 1 person/2sqM rule. It will be a condition of entry at large venues, such as football stadiums, that face masks be worn whether you like it or not.

    Although masks may be mandatory in large venues, they will become a common feature in the community which will lead to another change. Self evidently, masks severely limit facial recognition technology and as a consequence, various State laws will be amended to allow the Police to demand your name/address for any reason whatsoever. Failure to comply will be a criminal offence. Outside your home, your movements will be traceable as you ‘register’ when you eat at a local restaurant, get a haircut, enter a shopping centre etc.

    Under the guise of protecting us from the invisible virus, a far more insidious element will eat away at our few remaining freedoms. I think we all knew that control of the coronavirus and the economic cost was never going to be cheap, but many (outside the Cat) have not yet realised how ‘expensive’ that cost will actually be.

  32. Bad Samaritan

    Bemused. Nah. The average Victorian is none-too-bright. Only expanation for this mad love-affair the great majority has with fascism.

    Before the fake pandemic i often travelled throughout Victoria by car, meeting hundreds at random. I also had thousands of them using my tourism day and multi-day trips in Qld. I also had loads of them staying in my accommodation joints. These were not mostly leftists who hang out at Dangerous Ideas festivals but generally average Victorians.

    Dan is the love of most of their lives. The Vics I do know who regard him as cretin left Victoria yonks ago: some just over the border into NSW, or else came up here. escape when you next get a chance.

    BTW: If you want you can let me know when you plan to cross and I’ll get a mate living near Albury to meet you at the Murray with a little boat. Good luck!

  33. BTW: If you want you can let me know when you plan to cross and I’ll get a mate living near Albury to meet you at the Murray with a little boat. Good luck!

    With dickwads like you living across the border, I prefer to stay in country Victoria any day. Next time you have a flood, fire or drought, remember to thank the Victorians that provide you with support. If they knew that the people they were helping had views like your own, they might still help you out.

  34. Lee

    Which is weird because every single day, at his Press Conference, Andrews restates, over and over again, that “The vast, vast majority of Victorians are doing the right thing” …

    I have noticed for years that Dictator Dan talks about “doing the right thing.”
    Except in Andrews-speak it is code for “do what I say.”

  35. HT

    Australian governments of all stripes are too invested in lockdowns and closures to retreat to common sense now. They need a circuit breaker, a vaccine, even a placebo, would work. Anything where they don’t have to admit they grossly, catastrophically, over-reacted.

  36. HT

    dover_beach
    #3615248, posted on October 12, 2020 at 10:03 am
    Clown scientist on 3AW contradicting WHO scientist. Saying that lockdown relevant in certain circumstances.

    Unless your getting your fill of Orwell’s “Two minute hate”, do yourself a favour and don’t tune-in to 3AW. Especially Mitchell, what a tosser.

  37. Damon

    “not one (that I recall) suggested a full-on Stalinist lockdown”
    JoNova was insistent that a hard lockdown was the only solution.

  38. John A

    Maman #3615150, posted on October 12, 2020, at 7:58 am

    GooGooMuck

    “He has been vague enough to give himself the option to pivot, Nureyev-like, to a removal of restrictions because “the science says so” and save his political skin.”

    Nope – he’s past the point of no return, and well past his Use By Date.

    I no longer want him to save his political skin. Adapting the words of Cromwell (quoted on the Cat a number of times, now):

    In the name of God, GO!

    I want his Party to do the Pivot, and to conduct a swift execution based on the “new science from W.H.O.”

  39. Will any journalist put this to Sutton or Dangerous Dan at today’s press conference?

    After months of watching the daily Dan love-in, dont get your hopes up!

  40. Ozman

    Mother Lode
    #3615135, posted on October 12, 2020 at 7:40 am

    This one, Europe Versus U.S. on Coronavirus, which arrived this morning seems apposite.

    Checked your link and noted;

    .

    Spain and France are both doing worse than the U.S. in observed case fatality ratio, and Spain is also doing worse in deaths per 100,000 population, though even these statistics are tricky because coronavirus deaths may be overcounted in some places and undercounted in others

    Two issues with such statements as the above:
    One:
    WHO says lockdowns are creating poverty and causing more harm than necessary, without mentioning the number of deaths occurring from Covid-19.
    Two:
    The CDC (USA) has published a document “for emergency use only” and For “In-vitro Diagnostic (IVD) Use Rx Only “.

    In other words, if you stumble upon the page, do not look here, this information is not for you to see. https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download

    Jon Rappoport explains what is hidden in the document:
    There is no virus!

    https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/10/08/the-smoking-gun-where-is-the-coronavirus-the-cdc-says-it-isnt-available/

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