Neo-Socialism

This is from the brilliant Ayan Hirsi Ali.  It’s not long.  Please read if you have the time:

The False Appeal of Socialism.

Here are 2 nuggets:

Under a system of crony capitalism, businesses may rely on improper political connections to create cumbersome regulations that block competition. However, in a country with a functioning rule of law, a free press, and an informed public, and where corrupt officials are prosecuted, intense scrutiny of such practices can mitigate this systemic risk.

and

The neosocialism of 2020 has shifted gears from the more economically focused socialism of the twentieth century. Now it is enmeshed with the ideas of postmodernism and identity politics. This type of socialism rejects capitalism as immoral, along with notions of national borders and national sovereignty. It condemns American history, emphasizing only the darkest pages of the US experience, not the ideals to which the founding fathers aspired or which drew so many immigrants of all backgrounds over the years. “Woke” socialism is thus distinct from the socialism of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, which was heavily focused on economics and the workers’ struggle. Neosocialism carries an ostensible moral appeal for young people who may know little about history or the nature of socialism, or who are disenchanted with the current state of the world.

Sadly, this sounds all too familiar.

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16 Responses to Neo-Socialism

  1. Bruce of Newcastle

    Sadly, this sounds all too familiar.

    Yep. Fascism.

    A version of totalitarian socialism where magnate corporations are co-opted into the service of government. In Nazi Germany that included many companies like Messerschmitt and Bayer. Same in Mussolini’s Italy.

    Today the magnate corporations are Twitter, Facebook and Google, the Brownshirts are Antifa, and the Party is the Democrats.

  2. Struth

    Exactly.
    It ain’t rocket science.

  3. Rex Anger

    Socialism- More mutative than the Common Cold, and orders of magnitude more lethal…

  4. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Righto, new conspiracy theory, stat!

    Give me control of a nation’s Twitter stream and I care not who prints its money. – Faux de Tweetschild.

  5. duncanm

    Neosocialism carries an ostensible moral appeal for young people who may know little about history or the nature of socialism, or who are disenchanted with the current state of the world.

    that’s really the nub of the problem. Anyone who supports socialism, of the old or new flavour, is either ahistoric or just ignorant.

  6. Tom

    It ain’t rocket science.

    Struth, it IS rocket science to people who lead normal lives and aren’t really interested in politics — 80% of the population.

    They aren’t political junkies like us and don’t take an interest in politics until it starts to affect them personally (i.e., lockdowns). That is our challenge: to explain politics to people without scaring them off. That way they’ll continue their interest in politics long after we are rid of fascist totalitarians like Daniel Andrews.

  7. Ozman

    To quote Ayan Hirsi Ali

    Therefore, as Roger Scruton reminds us, the work of socialists is more frequently distinguished by its critique of capitalism than by its detailed description of what socialism should look like and how it should work.

    Socialists appear to have no idea of what socialism should look like, because those who oppose meritorious reward, only see themselves having slaves. To describe what they really intend to do, would be the end of their game.

    Jeremy Corsi explains why he believes Trump is beating the socialists by revealing their real agenda.

  8. Eddystone

    To describe what they really intend to do, would be the end of their game.

    “They Say Scandinavia But They Mean Venezuela” a 5 minute Prager U video.

  9. Tel

    Now it is enmeshed with the ideas of postmodernism and identity politics. This type of socialism rejects capitalism as immoral, along with notions of national borders and national sovereignty.

    I disagree … these people are perfectly happy to accept notions of “sovereignty” when it comes to EU regulations being imposed. The very first thing the CHAZ / CHOP / Whatever group in Seatle did was setup barricades and impose a border around their specially claimed territory.

    There’s no fundamental principle at work with these people, merely a collection of ad-hoc tools which might involve picking up principles of convenience and then tossing them aside some other time. If you point out the hypocrisy that becomes “whataboutism” whatever that is supposed to mean. Here’s the short list which covers most of what they do:
    * Always seek power over others.
    * Look for ways to either co-opt or undermine established authority and institutions, by any means.
    * Tell lies if that helps, and forget about it afterwards in the hope everyone else will forget.
    * Where you can’t get away with outright lies, go for twisted and distorted half-truth.
    * Prioritize short term tactics over long term strategy.
    * Use mobs and bullying, typically by recruiting otherwise useless people and turning them into mindless drones — those who are not too bright, or with emotional difficulties, or lonely people seeking companionship, or people with substance abuse problems.
    * Use simple slogans and emotional hooks: especially envy, fear, oversimplification, intimidation, quasi-religious notions of judgement day and impending doom.

  10. Tel

    A version of totalitarian socialism where magnate corporations are co-opted into the service of government. In Nazi Germany that included many companies like Messerschmitt and Bayer. Same in Mussolini’s Italy.

    Half right … actually they co-opted all institutions, including trade unions, courts and legal institutions, and to some extent even religion where they could get away with it. Lots of the Nazi symbolism was borrowed from earlier Pagan religions and a bit of it was from Christianity as well.

    The important thing was no independent institution of any size, neither corporation, nor government branch, nor any other private group.

  11. Chris M

    Under a system of crony capitalism, businesses may rely on improper political connections to create cumbersome regulations that block competition. However, in a country with a functioning rule of law, a free press, and an informed public…

    So how does this work where the press could be free but instead opt to be the crony capitalists with improper political connections in order to keep the public misinformed? Pretty slick to pull this off in an era where mass communication is so broad BTW. Must pay well for them.

  12. billie

    she has always had a clear view of reality, in my humble opinion

    this is Gold AHA

    those who favor equality of outcomes rather than equality of
    opportunity, are likely to condemn capitalism, without
    providing much clarity about what would replace it

    it’s always easier to criticise someone else’s work or system, with no skill or talent to do any more than that

    a great read, thanks

  13. one old bruce

    ‘This type of socialism rejects capitalism as immoral’

    Classical materialist socialism has no concept of morality, especially ‘bourgeois’ morality. All notions of guilt were rejected by materialist theorists. The focus was dogmatically on collective human good, defined as material progress.

    So if it didn’t come from classical leftism, what is the basis of all this present moralising? Hmmmmm?

    Well, as it happens, there is a much older socialist lineage predating the 19th Century materialists. Using language like ‘Satanic mills’ – Would any materialist be moved by a reference to Satan? Who would then? ‘Neo’ socialism turns out to have very old roots, which happen to be deeply embedded in western culture which is therefore a fertile ground for shaming and guilt rhetoric (try it on non-westerners and see).

    And roping in ‘postmodernism’ is just hand-waving, an all-purpose term for things you can’t explain.

  14. max

    Gary North
    Economic Fascism

    In 1791, the United States government created the Bank of the United States. It was a privately owned central bank. It was a monopoly. It bought government bonds with counterfeit but legal money. It earned money on the interest payments.

    In 1816, a second Bank of the United States was created. It was the same scam: counterfeit money to buy government bonds and anything else it wanted to buy. It earned money on the interest.

    Marx wrote that whenever capitalists accept the right of propertyless men to vote, private property is in theory abolished.

    “Is not private property abolished in idea if the non-property owner has become legislator for the property owner? The property qualification for the suffrage is the last political form of giving recognition to private property.”

  15. max

    Schumpeter was startlingly wrong. Economic growth has not declined. Economic growth was about to enjoy an extraordinary increase. What happened in Japan, Hong Kong, and South Korea after 1950, and in China after 1979, has completely and utterly refuted Schumpeter.

    Socialism as an ideology is finished today. There is almost nobody who calls himself a socialist, although Bernie Sanders is one.

    Marxism is finished. Outside of North Korea, nobody calls himself a Marxist, except for the political elite in Communist China. But the economy over which they reign is not Communist, but basically Keynesian.

    Majority people today are Statist

    “Education in this era, is a messianic and utopian movement” for which the state had “become the saving institution” and the schools proclaimers of “a new gospel of salvation.”

  16. Louis Litt

    Thank God for you people – thank you for your erudite thoughts. One thing – comment re facicsts- these modern day communists loathe their country, look/dress like a badly roll your own cigarette, Tel comment that they are people with emotional problems who group together with a union of hatred to me is a spot on description.

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