Open Forum: October 17, 2020

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  1. areff

    RockDoc: I believe that Solomon Islands panzer was the Mark II version of a rugged fighting unit pioneered by the Kiwis some years earlier:

  2. MatrixTransform

    html fail.
    3/10

  3. Leigh Lowe

    EvilElvis

    #3622702, posted on October 18, 2020 at 8:54 am

    ‘learnings’

    We’ll circle back on that, KD.

    And give it some more robust analysis.

    Robust analysis?
    This means we are going to drill down to get a level of granularity, right?

  4. Eyrie

    The bottom line is that Jo Nova was totally wrong. Absolute junk science.
    She’s been Karening her way through the whole Covid thing.
    I’m afraid she’s turned out to be a complete fruit loop.
    Immense damage to her whole climate change thing to the point I think she should shut down her website and disappear so people forget. A complete lunatic which shows how some people can fool you for quite a while.

  5. MatrixTransform

    A kak of Karens

  6. Leigh Lowe

    The latest management speak is “stood up”.
    As in, “We managed to get hotel quarantine ‘stood up’ in 48 hours.”
    I can only assume it means ‘totally screwed’ in that context.

  7. Mater

    Oh by the way, has anyone seen a post where the Toowoomba racist has condemned the atrocity in France…just imagine the screeds he’d have written if the perpetrator was a white Christian or Joooowish male.

    Give him time, Cassie. He’s made the connection between violence and the forced intermingling of “different groupings”.

    1735099
    #3610791, posted on October 8, 2020 at 6:08 am

    This post about Lockhart reminds me that I was offered a job there in 1982…
    I remember a beautiful place where violence simmered just below the surface mainly because of the history – a whole bunch of different groupings lumped together doesn’t always work.

    Group think, parochialism, and a general lack of intelligence, prevents him from taking the next logical step and recognising that it also applies to “multicultural” societies.

  8. Cassie of Sydney

    “a Week long online campaign this article gives the perpetrator’s full name”

    Remember the screaming, screeching and howling after Christchurch about social media? Remember the sanctimony about how social media must do more to combat “hate”….we even had a PM who joined in the sanctimonious screeching.

    Except, of course, some hate is permissible.

  9. Mexican pork schnitzel.

    Okay you are a kayfabe character like Andy Kaufman or Mike Tyson.

  10. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘We’ll circle back on that, KD.’

    Killing me over here.

  11. feelthebern

    New pub grub delicacy.
    Chicken Hawaiian-giana.
    Yep, you know what’s on it.

  12. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Okay you are a kayfabe character like Andy Kaufman or Mike Tyson.’

    Thank you.

  13. MatrixTransform

    Victorians are to be granted, by decree, a less onerous abuse of their human rights

    personally, I’m hoping for extra porridge

  14. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #3622722, posted on October 18, 2020 at 9:06 am

    New pub grub delicacy.
    Chicken Hawaiian-giana.
    Yep, you know what’s on it.

    Hibiscus flowers?

  15. 1735099

    The Toowoomba racist…

    Here’s a small Sunday exercise for you.
    Find one comment I’ve made on this blog that is racist.
    Ask Mater to help you.
    You make such a lovely pair.

  16. herodotus

    Folks, this one’s for Gladys:

  17. OldOzzie

    Exclusive: Larry C. Johnson Interviews John Paul Mac Isaac — The American Patriot Who Was Hired to Fix Hunter Biden’s Computers and the Rest Is History

    This is the story of an American patriot, an honorable man, John Paul Mac Isaac, who tried to do the right thing and is now being unfairly and maliciously slandered as an agent of foreign intelligence, specifically Russia.

    John Paul Mac Isaac is not an agent or spy for anyone. He is his own man. How do I know? I have known his dad for more than 20 years. I’ve known John Paul’s dad as Mac. Mac is a decorated Vietnam Veteran, who flew gunships in Vietnam. And he continued his military service with an impeccable record until he retired as an Air Force Colonel. The crews of those gunships have an annual reunion and Mac usually takes John Paul along, who volunteers his computer and video skills to record and compile the stories of those brave men who served their country in a difficult war.

    This story is very simple–Hunter Biden dropped off three computers with liquid damage at a repair shop in Wilmington, Delaware on April 12, 2019. The owner, John Paul Mac Isaac, examined the three and determined that one was beyond recovery, one was okay and the data on the hard drive of the third could be recovered. Hunter signed the service ticket and John Paul Mac Isaac repaired the hard drive and downloaded the data. During this process he saw some disturbing images and a number of emails that concerned Ukraine, Burisma, China and other issues. With the work completed, Mr. Mac Isaac prepared an invoice, sent it to Hunter Biden and notified him that the computer was ready to be retrieved. Hunter did not respond. In the ensuing four months (May, June, July and August), Mr. Mac Isaac made repeated efforts to contact Hunter Biden. Biden never answered and never responded. More importantly, Biden stiffed John Paul Mac Isaac–i.e., he did not pay the bill.

    When the manufactured Ukraine crisis surfaced in August 2019, John Paul realized he was sitting on radioactive material that might be relevant to the investigation. After conferring with his father, Mac and John Paul decided that Mac would take the information to the FBI office in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Mac walked into the Albuquerque FBI office and spoke with an agent who refused to give his name. Mac explained the material he had, but was rebuffed by the FBI. He was told basically, get lost. This was mid-September 2019.

    Two months passed and then, out of the blue, the FBI contacted John Paul Mac Isaac. Two FBI agents from the Wilmington FBI office–Joshua Williams and Mike Dzielak–came to John Paul’s business. He offered immediately to give them the hard drive, no strings attached. Agents Williams and Dzielak declined to take the device.

    Two weeks later, the intrepid agents called and asked to come and image the hard drive. John Paul agreed but, instead of taking the hard drive or imaging the drive, they gave him a subpoena. It was part of a grand jury proceeding but neither agent said anything about the purpose of the grand jury. John Paul complied with the subpoena and turned over the hard drive and the computer.

    Read the Rest

  18. That’s Joe Biden. Sleepy Joe. A donkey disguised as Phar Lap.
    Armadillo
    #3622596, posted on October 18, 2020 at 2:50 am

    Fine Cotton described as Phar Lap would be more apt.

    More stuff coming out from the US.

    He’s shot.

    I’d say he’s a Jack Russell at a Mexican dogfight.

    On that note.

    LOL LOL

    “Jack Russell racing at its finest!”

    If the dogs are as good commentators as they are runners, the young, quite useless and probably stoned MC might be out of a job.

    “The day before Cinquo de Mayo”

    Go back to Tijuana mate. This is about dog racing, not cavvie racing.

  19. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3622723, posted on October 18, 2020 at 9:06 am

    ‘Okay you are a kayfabe character like Andy Kaufman or Mike Tyson.’

    Thank you.

    But you are not Andy or Mike.
    What’s your real name?
    We need to know.
    😀😀😀😀

  20. OldOzzie

    John Paul Mac Isaac is not responsible for the emails, images and videos recovered from Hunter Biden’s computer. He was hired to do a job, he did the job and submitted an invoice for the work. Hunter Biden, for some unexplained reason, never responded and never asked for the computer. But that changed last Tuesday, October 13, 2020. A person claiming to be Hunter Biden’s lawyer called John Paul Mac Isaac and asked for the computer to be returned. Too late. That horse had left the barn and was with the FBI.

  21. Leigh Lowe

    If only Bunter Hiden had been to the Hillary Clinton school of data management.

  22. Farmer Gez

    1735099
    #3622727, posted on October 18, 2020 at 9:07 am
    The Toowoomba racist…

    Here’s a small Sunday exercise for you.
    Find one comment I’ve made on this blog that is racist.
    Ask Mater to help you.
    You make such a lovely pair.

    Finding a comment where you condemn China’s actions against Australia would be quicker.
    Zip….done.

  23. Shy Ted

    Update on the “organic” bubbles from last evening – $10 down from $15 from Dr Murphy’ – “Born Wild” from SA. I like my bubbles freezing so give it a bit of freezer treatment. It seemed to freeze sooner than non-organic and evil bubbles. Decent little drop, def worth more than $10. Checked the detail this morning, 11%, contains sulphites. Aah… No hangover but that’s why I celebrate with bubbles cos no matter how much I have, I never do. More research needed.

  24. OldOzzie

    notafan
    #3622739, posted on October 18, 2020 at 9:14 am
    Paywalled age article on Victoria testing failure in May

    notafan why is it paywalled?
    – who would pay for it?

    Had no troubles reading – Thanks GitHub – (Well, really don’t want to read Pravada on the Yarra)

  25. feelthebern

    Silence is Violence.

  26. Mater

    Bob,
    Are you still praying for my salvation?
    I sense your heart is not really in it. Can you put some more effort into it, please. I can feel my soul slipping into eternal damnation.

    P.S. I’ve told you before that it rarely works out well for you when you get me to find particular posts. I’m just looking out for your well being! You can thank me later.

  27. Farmer Gez

    Wrongselen on Insiders has a black painted nail on his wedding ring finger.

    What the hell is that all about?

  28. Canberrans

    Is the Belco party a front for…anything?

    Should a ‘tronto party in the central coast electorates!

  29. duncanm

    Alls not doom and gloom in Unzud.

    The libertarians (ACT) went from 0.5 to 8%, and outpolled the greens. 9 seats in parliament

  30. Gilas

    Legalise Sedition
    #3622541, posted on October 17, 2020 at 11:48 pm

    Far out!
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30453-7/fulltext
    The Lancet
    Respiratory Medicine
    False-positive COVID-19 results: hidden problems and costs

    False-positives are a function of the non-specific nature of the RT-PCR virion sequences being tested.
    Dopey-Danny-With-Shit-For-Brains could have predicted that risk (overestimating positive cases).

    It helped to spread the panic, giving it a veneer of “da science”, which an assorted caravan of deceitful politicians and dead-shit-stupid doctors would use to justify the fascist responses seen.

    A recent YT clip reported published RT-PCR false-positive rates of 0.2 – 3.3% (couldn’t find link today).

    Multiply these numbers by the total numbers tested (123,830,950 to 17-10-2020)…
    subtract the negative PCR test results (107,401,741 to 17-10-2020)…
    and multiply by the above percentage false-positives…

    And one gets a range of approx. 32,800 – 542,160 false-positive COVID cases,

    out of a total of 211,014 (confirmed and probable) COVID deaths in the US.

    Think about that!

  31. Leigh Lowe

    Is the Belco party a front for…anything?

    Yes.
    The CIA and MI5.
    It’s all in the video.

  32. Farmer Gez
    #3622746, posted on October 18, 2020 at 9:22 am

    Wrongselen on Insiders has a black painted nail on his wedding ring finger.

    What the hell is that all about?

    I raged about this nonsense weeks ago. I guess I can’t live without ragahol.

    Apparently it means you don’t like children and women being sexually abused.

    Because you must emasculate yourself to do so; moreover, men are never sexually abused.

    The crusading twats behind this call it the polished man bullshit or something else.

    So when it eventually is no longer du jour, does it mean van Ocelet tacitly approves of sex abuse?

    van Ocelet is just the kind of low IQ privileged twit to engage in this silliness.

    Parents.

    It’s never too late to slap your kids in the face.

    Even feckless adult children.

    I await slapping my own future kids around when they are in their 20s, the miscreants they will be.

    [NO! MUM! STOP!]

  33. Nick

    I’m trying to work out who I want to lose the most in the AFL GF. I think Dangerfield and Hawkins are swinging me away from Richmond.

  34. And one gets a range of approx. 32,800 – 542,160 false-positive COVID cases,

    out of a total of 211,014 (confirmed and probable) COVID deaths in the US.

    Think about that!

    So basically that’s an RSD (% figure of standard deviations) over 100%.

    It’s all bullcrap.

    Complete bullcrap!

  35. Leigh Lowe

    Nick

    #3622754, posted on October 18, 2020 at 9:28 am

    I’m trying to work out who I want to lose the most in the AFL GF

    The upside is we will be spared the sight of Palace-Chook im a Lions jumper, reminiscing about club greats like Kelvin Murray and Barry Quinlan.

  36. For those bewildered by fat headed idiot van Onselen wearing nail polish like an edgy high school twit.

    I’ve found another slab of ragahol.

    I understand the point of the campaign. It is the typical self-indulgent, viral hashtag activism that is so popular these days. It is not that the celebrity men do not care about preventing child rape. It is that very little will actually come of it beyond pandering to people’s need to seen in a certain light.

    Yet what makes the campaign so troubling is that it misrepresents the problem by explicitly blaming men for sexual violence, effectively erasing female perpetrators. It also uses a clear gendered element to campaign, implying boys are not victims of sexual violence. The campaign is little more than virtue signalling.

    https://toysoldier.wordpress.com/2016/10/20/let-us-talk-about-the-polished-man-campaign/

  37. Leigh Lowe

    It’s never too late to slap your kids in the face.

    Speaking of which, the house-boy has apologised.

  38. Farmer Gez

    I raged about this nonsense weeks ago. I guess I can’t live without ragahol.

    Apparently it means you don’t like children and women being sexually abused.

    Aha!

    Virtue signalling.
    I had my nails painted years ago when my two little girls decided dad was in need of a beauty treatment. That’s the only excuse for a bloke to go glam.

  39. OldOzzie

    BREAKING: Email Sent to Computer Shop Owner John Paul Mac Isaac from Hunter Biden’s Attorney Is Released!

    Adam [email protected]

    Early Saturday morning Adam Housley released the email from Hunter Biden’s attorney to John Paul Mac Isaac from last week!

    Here ya go….this is the email sent to John Paul by Hunter Biden’s lawyer. It is in reference to returning the laptops. Also…the attorney said Hunter dropped em off in 2017. Nope..try April 2019. He didn’t even know when he left em there. Redactions on this document are mine

    Here is the letter from Hunter Biden’s attorney George Mesires.

    Hunter Biden’s attorney called John Paul’s shop a few days ago and asked for Hunter’s computers back. The letter was sent after the call. This confirms that the computers held by John Paul Mac Isaac were indeed from Hunter Biden.

  40. The libertarians (ACT) went from 0.5 to 8%, and outpolled the greens. 9 seats in parliament

    Great news! Just the best, believe me.

    Crusher was a CINO anyway. Winston Peters was detained by a full length mirror as well.

  41. feelthebern

    Key paragraph.

    To recap: an oligarch whose company’s wealth was tied to embezzlement and graft was booted from power via revolution in February, 2014, causing his company’s assets to come under fire, both in Ukraine and abroad. With Zlochevsky’s former protector Viktor Yanukovich having fled Ukraine back to Russia, Burisma scrambled to shore up a new power base. Within six weeks of the revolution, the firm brought big names onto its board, including former Polish President Alexander Kwasniewski, Biden, and Devon Archer, pal to Hunter and the college roommate of Christopher Heinz, stepson to John Kerry. They would later add former CIA counter-terrorism chief Cofer Black.

  42. From Daily Mail. No surprise at all. Recruiting must be fun and I suspect the quality of recruits must be worse than normal.

    Exodus of NYPD cops continues with patrol chief’s sudden retirement as the department admits departures have increased 87 percent on last year
    Retirements from the NYPD have increased 87 per cent year-on-year
    Resignations are also up compared to data from 2019
    The New York Police Department said it was ‘a troubling trend’
    On Tuesday Fausto Pichardo, chief of patrol, became the latest to retire, aged 41

  43. Bruce of Newcastle

    Alls not doom and gloom in Unzud.
    The libertarians (ACT) went from 0.5 to 8%, and outpolled the greens. 9 seats in parliament

    Winston Peters lost nearly two thirds of his vote (7.2% down to 2.7%). I think that means his base were unhappy with him doing a Tony Windsor.

  44. Nick

    The upside is we will be spared the sight of Palace-Chook im a Lions jumper, reminiscing about club greats like Kelvin Murray and Barry Quinlan.

    Fair point. Yes, about Bernie Roo’s famous header to win the 1970 GF

  45. MatrixTransform

    The missus reported feeling wiped out yesterday.
    Sneezed herself off the couch last night at 3/4 time (Geelong looking strong)
    Got up thismo and she’s all throaty and still a bit sneezy.

    prolly need to get a test today.
    me too I suppose.

    If she got it, then it probs came from me.
    been to all the best Melb hotspots last week.

    watch this space

  46. Old School Conservative

    Thanks Tom.
    Enjoyed them all today.

  47. MatrixTransform

    If I croak, Arky can have my power tools

  48. OldOzzie

    Joe Biden-Linked Firm Made Major Investments in Chinese Corporations

    Democrat presidential candidate Joe Biden’s son-in-law’s investment firm has made investments in Chinese corporations over the last few years.

    Biden’s daughter, Ashley, married Philadelphia head and neck doctor Howard Krein in 2012. Krein, who is currently advising Biden for his campaign, remains chief medical officer at the firm StartUp Health, which has tied itself in partnerships with Chinese corporations through the years.

    StartUp Health boosted two major China-based corporations in 2018 and most recently praised China’s response to the Chinese coronavirus crisis.

    “China’s systematic and urgent response to contain COVID-19 has become a kind of playbook for other countries working to ramp up similar impromptu yet systemized efforts to stay the spread of this novel infectious disease,” a StartUp Health post in March states.

    The China-based Medebound corporation, which connects Chinese patients with American doctors, has gotten help from StartUp Health in their initiatives venturing into the U.S. market.

    Likewise, StartUp Health considers China-based Ping An, one of China’s largest insurance corporations, a “StartUp Health Investor and partner.”

  49. Just subscribed to Veritas and Cryin’ Glenn!

    The problem is, there is so much mind blowing stuff I can’t keep up.

  50. notafan

    Apparently libertarians did well in NZ

    Up from .03 to 8 percent

  51. Diogenes

    Hunter Biden’s attorney called John Paul’s shop a few days ago and asked for Hunter’s computers back. The letter was sent after the call. This confirms that the computers held by John Paul Mac Isaac were indeed from Hunter Biden.

    Spectacular own goal!

  52. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Christopher Heinz, stepson to John Kerry

    Giuliani mentions there are more crime families in Washington…

  53. Cassie of Sydney

    “Winston Peters lost nearly two thirds of his vote (7.2% down to 2.7%). I think that means his base were unhappy with him doing a Tony Windsor.”

    Yep…..also ACT in NZ has now won 10 seats.

  54. Good lord that punchline….Trump you pulled me right in with that.

    😂😊😀😁😎

  55. notafan

    Why get tested MT?

    Just stay home and get better unless symptoms persist then see your doctor?

  56. Bruce of Newcastle

    Retirements from the NYPD have increased 87 per cent year-on-year
    Resignations are also up compared to data from 2019

    Shootings are up significantly, roughly double last year.

    The Geek in Pictures | Power Line (Steven Hayward, 16 Oct)

    I’ve got a large backlog of interesting charts, graphs, and tables that I haven’t had a chance to offer up with analysis or commentary, so today I’m going to do a Friday Afternoon Chart Dump just for everyone’s edification.

    Lots of interesting stats geek fun. The NYC shootings graph is this one.

  57. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    [NO! MUM! STOP!]

    what the? has dot transitioned???

  58. Leigh Lowe

    Winston Peters was detained by a full length mirror as well.

    That was a bit rich.
    David Lange accusing another of inflated ego.
    Of course, the obvious comeback from Peters would be …

    “Better a full length mirror than a full width mirror, David.”

  59. Boambee John

    Here’s a small Sunday exercise for you.
    Find one comment I’ve made on this blog that is racist.

    This stands alongside “I have never told a lie on this blog” and “I couldn’t care less what happens in the land of the shooting spree” for fatuousness.

  60. MatrixTransform

    Why get tested MT?

    because she will
    and because she won’t shut up unless I do

    …and I am supposed to work tomorrow with other people

    err on the side of caution I suppose

  61. Farmer Gez

    I woke up this morning feeling more than a bit off.
    I vaguely remember a friend’s birthday party at the pub and an open bar tab.

    Damn you Covid!

  62. Steve trickler

    For lurking journos of the MSM type.



  63. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The Toowoomba racist…

    A coward goes to vietnam

  64. Um. Mixed feelings about this one.

    “It is outrageous that a school resource officer would feel that it is appropriate to handcuff, pin down, taunt and threaten a seven-year-old child, much less one with known autism, for nearly 40 minutes,” said Alex Heroy, an attorney representing the boy’s mother. “The officer removed the child from the hands of behavioral health teachers, who then stood by and did nothing as immense harm was inflicted by the officer. This is another tragic example of not just the desperate need for police reform, but also growth in the behavioral health field.”

    Actually, the kid just needs his father to give him a good smack.

  65. MatrixTransform

    I vaguely remember a …

    Covid brain fog?

  66. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Why get tested MT?

    Exactly, the stasi will visit you regularly to ensure you haven’t done something criminal like poked your head out the window or mention liberty, freedom or unalienable rights on social media

  67. Leigh Lowe

    We need to be allowed to travel overseas.
    It is sooo tiresome being surrounded by people who drink instant coffee and can’t pronounce “dauphinoise” or “tempranillo” or “paella” properly.

  68. Farmer Gez

    MatrixTransform
    #3622794, posted on October 18, 2020 at 9:57 am
    I vaguely remember a …

    Covid brain fog?

    I’ve got the cure.
    Two Panadol, two cups of coffee and two scrambled eggs.

  69. H B Bear

    Basil is the new Lord Mayor. I guess I better go pack the car.

  70. Gilas

    calli
    #3622603, posted on October 18, 2020 at 6:16 am
    Huckleberry Chunkwot was has old posting name. Been here on and off as long as I have. Train driver but now a desk jockey.
    Memorable posts? Just this year and on the effects of Covid lockdowns on mental health – a few observations of incidents and stats re suicide by VicRail.
    No broad, sweeping, dazzling generalisations that may or may not be true. Just man on the ground stuff.

    I am SERIOUSLY F….g impressed!

    Calli, honest question(s):

    How do you know so much?
    Do you dredge through every OT post?

    Respect!

  71. H B Bear

    It is sooo tiresome being surrounded by people who drink instant coffee and can’t pronounce “dauphinoise” or “tempranillo” or “paella” properly.

    I take it you don’t travel to the UK. Instant coffee is a welcome relief in London.

  72. French, Spanish and Italian are the same language, right?

  73. Nob

    Notafan – paywall only comes after 5 free articles or whatever.

    Anyway, here’s a similar article:
    Victoria failed to test enough when second wave seeded: testing chief

    October 17, 2020 — 11.30pm
    Victoria’s health authorities were not running enough tests in May, letting a small and known outbreak turn into a second wave that forced the state back into lockdown, the new head of the state’s testing strategy has admitted.

    Health authorities were alerted to a staff member at a quarantine hotel falling sick on May 26. Yet over the next seven days, the state’s daily testing average actually declined, official figures show – falling from 8047 on the 26th to just 6295 on June 2.

    By way of comparison, in the first two weeks of October the state was doing about 12,800 tests a day, despite case numbers in single digits. In mid-July about 27,000 tests were being done daily.

    Jeroen Weimar, Daniel Andrews’ former transport boss, has been parachuted in to run Victoria’s revamped contact tracing.

    While much of the blame for Victoria’s second wave has been slated to the hotel quarantine scandal, the state also was not testing enough to contain the virus, said Victoria’s new testing commander Jeroen Weimar.

    “Our level of testing at the time of seeding was far, far lower. That’s one of the lessons we have had to learn,” he told The Sunday Age.

    Two security guards fell sick in NSW’s hotel quarantine in August, but did not trigger a second wave. The state averaged 22,882 tests a day in that month, several times the amount Victoria was doing when its second wave was seeded.

    Professor Catherine Bennett, chair of epidemiology at Deakin University, said testing was foundational for controlling the virus.

    “Testing is our eyes. We didn’t see the extent of spread till it was too late. So we were flying blind,” she said.

    Mr Weimar is aiming to do between 15,000 and 20,000 tests every day, all turned around within 24 hours, even when the state reopens.

    In addition to symptomatic testing, sentinel testing sites will be set up at high-risk workplaces including aged care and meatworks, with every worker tested.

    The expectation is, if the virus is circulating in the community, it will likely show up at these high-risk locations.

    Major investments in testing labs will allow up to 35,000 tests to be turned around every day by early next year.

    Millions more is being spent on an evaluation of rapid point-of-care antigen tests, which are cheap and claim to be able to provide results within 15 minutes. It remains unclear if they are accurate enough to be useful.

    The investment was already paying dividends, Mr Weimar said. After an outbreak emerged in Casey in September, “we just flooded the place [with testing]”.

    Almost 15,000 tests were done in Dandenong and Casey over two weeks, a 50 per cent increase.

    People faced long waits at COVID-19 testing sites in Shepparton on Wednesday. NINE NEWS

    “That outbreak has really stabilised. You had 44 cases, if that breaks into the broader community that’s potentially a huge outbreak,” Mr Weimar said.

    But reports from Shepparton of overwhelmed testing clinics, with some people turned away, suggest the state is not out of the woods yet.

    Epidemiologist Mary-Louise McLaws, a UNSW professor and World Health Organisation advisor, said Victoria should consider deploying mass testing for those without symptoms or who aren’t close contacts of a positive case.

    This would help track down asymptomatic cases which may inadvertently be spreading the virus in the community, she said.

    “I would be opening up a test clinic in [hotspot] areas in the shopping malls and ask everyone to get tested, even without symptoms,” she said.

    What future can Melbourne expect after COVID?

    Currently, people who get tested must self-isolate until they get their result. However Professor McLaws said this requirement could be relaxed for people who don’t have symptoms as a way of encouraging participation.

    “You may as well say everyone without symptoms get tested but continue to wear masks and go to work,” she said.

    “They won’t turn up if you say ‘by the way you have to stay home for a couple of days to get your test result’.”

    Earlier this week, Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton downplayed the need to expand testing to asymptomatic people in response to outbreaks in places like the Chadstone shopping centre.

    “An approach of testing every single asymptomatic person in a particular setting, when there are tens of thousands coming on a daily basis, is not value for money and is not necessarily a proportionate approach,” he said.

  74. Here’s a small Sunday exercise for you.

    Yeah, shut up about the Vietnam War until the first Sunday after New Year’s Day 2021.

    That’s 3rd January 2021.

  75. Leigh Lowe

    French, Spanish and Italian are the same language, right?

    Nein.
    .
    Lowe Italian is English with extra added-a-vowels between-a the words. And louder. With arm waving.
    Lowe Spanish is English with gutteral throat sounds where the l’s used to be and lisping the “s” sounds.
    Lowe French is English with soothing humming sounds inserted.

  76. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I have been hesitant to bet on the election as I expect wide scale fraud from the left and still do.

    However I placed a bet at $2.5 and got a $250 bonus at ladbrokes.

  77. mh

    Sportsbet ran an ad last night after the footy promoting betting on the US election.

    It had ‘Trump’ doing the ad, and it was kind of funny.

  78. Nick

    We need to be allowed to travel overseas.
    It is sooo tiresome being surrounded by people who drink instant coffee and can’t pronounce “dauphinoise” or “tempranillo” or “paella” properly.

    Don’t get me started on “bruschetta”

  79. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    A black painted fingernail looks like a hammer-blow a week ago is working its way out. Unpleasant.

    ———————-

    Hate to break it to you, stix, but if you are more than eight-ten years out of a decent Uni with a Commerce degree and you are only pulling $115k, you are probably fetching coffees and dry-cleaning for the big boys.

    Or the big girls.

    Our daughter is fifteen years out of a top Commerce/Law double degree, and has picked up an added CA and Masters in Tax on the way up. Heading for a big corporate Partnership, three children (third on the way as I speak), happily married to a similar high flyer, big house and pool in a top suburb, living the dream. Definitely an Amy, and with similar classic good looks and calm demeanor. Hairy jokes she’ll soon be approaching his earning level. She wouldn’t tell us how much. A lot more than $110K though, perhaps triple that. Then Covid struck profits, and we shall see what happens now.

    Some might say it’s all due to the top private girls’ school, stellar background there, lots of friendships in a useful network, and that is all true. But like the young man in the Seven Up series, born with the silver spoon and on his way at seven to Charterhouse, she would put you in your place about that. She has worked very hard, very hard indeed, to achieve all that she has done. It’s easy to say that it all just falls into some people’s laps, but that is only a part of the story. She still had to make her own way and many fall by the wayside trying to do so.

    Just as I made my own way, in another time and place, but in a manner that I did not want my daughter to have to experience. She went to a public primary school, in an Opportunity Class from year 5, and has maintained friendship from those times too. Hairy was adamant about the best private schooling. His elite schooling Britain had set him on the road to belief in himself that he wanted his daughter to also have about herself. I knew and accepted this as the way of the world. I also see no reason why the public sector should not produce the same ethos; it once did this. In my youth, top public schools were aligned to the private sector in sports and vied for academic successes. Even my old high school made a great effort for us kids in the A stream, drumming in Latin, French, Maths 1, Maths 11, Science, English and History. Shame I left it at fourteen. On my urging, Hairy and I visited the selective high school to which our daughter had easily gained entry; we thought the ethos of the school was deficient and far too lax and undemanding, woke before woke became a thing and the girls were suffering – shrieking, lacking discipline, incomplete uniforms, and allowed by some daggy-looking staff to run an assembly that was a shambles. She’s not going there, said Hairy, looking grim.

    That school, by the way, changed headmistresses soon after, and is now exemplary. Albeit still woke, something which has now infected the private sector too.

  80. dover_beach

    David French on the Hunter Biden emails:

    There is a dramatic difference between

    1) verifying, then reporting;

    2) dumping, then demanding others disprove

    The first practice is journalism. The second practice is partisanship — or perhaps profiteering.

    Conservatism Inc is cancer.

  81. mh

    Farmer Gez
    #3622746, posted on October 18, 2020 at 9:22 am
    Wrongselen on Insiders has a black painted nail on his wedding ring finger.

    What the hell is that all about?

    I suspect it’s that ‘polished man’ campaign. No idea the goals other than making money for someone.

  82. stackja

    NYC needs to holler for USA Marshal.

  83. Some History

    Colonel Hunchback Messup will be gracing the inmates with his presence at 11:00 (if he feels like it)

  84. EvilElvis

    This means we are going to drill down to get a level of granularity, right?

    Of course! Once we’ve drilled down enough we can vigorously review progress for clarification.

  85. MatrixTransform

    A black painted fingernail looks like a hammer-blow a week ago is working its way out

    if ever you have done that badly and it is so sore from throbbing … do not go to the Doc.
    They will heat up a paper clip and burn through the nail to relive the pressure.

    I recommend a brand new 1/8 two-point drill be utilized to gently excavate your own pressure relief hole.

  86. Leigh Lowe

    Of course! Once we’ve drilled down enough we can vigorously review progress for clarification.

    Whooaaa!
    Hold your horses.
    There can be no “vigorous review” until we develop a robust policy framework, vision and mission statements and a inclusive implementation plan.

  87. MatrixTransform

    good news.
    The Rationalisation Hamster in her heat has stopped the wheel.

    mild symptoms more like hayfever
    decided to sit on it for now

  88. Nick

    Pirate Pete is going after Gladys. It would be interesting to see what he said about Gillard at the time.

  89. rickw

    National Guard Kickass! Vic Emergency Services management would have spilled their donuts and coffee and had them fired.

  90. Siltstone

    Farmer Gez
    #3622746, posted on October 18, 2020 at 9:22 am
    Wrongselen on Insiders has a black painted nail on his wedding ring finger.
    What the hell is that all about?

    Its his ring finger alright, he sticks it up his black-hole-of-Calcutta arse.

  91. OldOzzie

    Ronna McDaniel
    @GOPChairwoman

    Nearly 4 years since he took office, and @realDonaldTrump is still drawing new voters.

    From tonight’s Muskegon rally:

    ✅ 11,842 voters matched

    ✅ Only 48.3% Republican

    ✅ 36% who did not vote in 2016

    Thank you, Michigan!!

  92. rickw

    The hospitality lead Revolution!

  93. mh

    Detectives’ Endowment Association
    @NYCPDDEA
    Former VP Joe Biden’s suggestion that cops should “shoot someone in the leg” if they’re coming at them is insulting and demonstrates his incompetence & inability to understand the grave dangers cops face as they protect the public and themselves from violent, heartless criminals.

    https://twitter.com/NYCPDDEA/status/1317093015127838720?s=20

  94. Gilas

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3622654, posted on October 18, 2020 at 8:06 am

    Managementese phrases and things I have banned being said or done, or especially written anywhere near me:
    + learnings”

    A good start, but there’s more.. much more:

    keen for…
    identified need
    highlighted through
    finding opportunities
    very keen to…
    agreement on a way forward
    complexity of factors
    reflective
    continuous improvement
    way forward
    appreciate
    no doubt difficult…
    opportunity for networking
    embarked on a journey
    maximize the value of…
    seek your involvement
    expectation remains uniform
    further drive..
    fully acknowledge your..

    etc..
    etc..

    Gets tedious after a while..
    On the other hand, now I can see one of these f.ckers coming a mile off.

  95. stackja

    mh – Dirty Harry hit them higher. To good effect. NYPD in 1950s probably did also.

  96. Roger

    Wrongselen on Insiders has a black painted nail on his wedding ring finger.

    What the hell is that all about?

    If I hadn’t been informed here that it was adolescent virtue signalling I would have assumed he was a sexual deviant of some sort.

  97. rickw

    Speaking of black painted fingernails:

  98. EvilElvis

    Whooaaa!
    Hold your horses.
    There can be no “vigorous review” until we develop a robust policy framework, vision and mission statements and a inclusive implementation plan.

    Sorry. I get excited being integral to such transformative, diverse, innovational work. Let’s get our people to talk, yet never mention ‘outcomes’.

  99. Des Deskperson

    ‘Is the Belco party a front for…anything?’

    Belconnen is a large, flat area in the outer north west of Canberra. It is not in any way distinguished by its scenery, its architecture, its culture or the people who live there.

    Even by outer Canberra standards, residents have a chip on their shoulders, there is always talk of ‘Belco Pride’. I Suspect that this is what the Belco party hoped to tap into.

    Its leader is one Bill Stefaniak, ex Liberal MLA and former Minister in the Carnell and Smyth administrations. He seem to be a decent bloke but he has had a rough time recently.

    His party went nowhere yesterday .

  100. mh

    US POLITICS

    Trump fights to the finish
    As the US election campaign hurtles to the finish, Donald Trump’s travel schedule speaks volumes about his grim predicament.
    By CAMERON STEWART

    It’s exactly what he did in 2016 you total fvcking moron.

  101. Roger

    Belconnen…is not in any way distinguished by its scenery, its architecture, its culture or the people who live there.

    Canberra in a nutshell.

  102. stackja

    Wasn’t Belco a RAN establishment?

  103. Boambee John

    Detectives’ Endowment Association
    @NYCPDDEA
    Former VP Joe Biden’s suggestion that cops should “shoot someone in the leg”

    Perhaps “between their legs”?

  104. herodotus

    Belconnen was the site of the main fleet broadcast station.

  105. mh

    Hunter should be shot between the legs.

  106. Steve trickler

    Watching people purchase the “Newspaper” at me local Deli is not comforting.

  107. Boambee John

    stackja
    #3622843, posted on October 18, 2020 at 10:40 am
    Wasn’t Belco a RAN establishment?

    Former naval communications station (aerial farm). Now housing and open space (the latter possibly polluted with PCBs).

  108. K2

    TAB update.

    Trump has firmed in another half point since yesterday. Now $2.20 (Baffling!); and for Ed Case,
    Freckleton has drifted a further point. Now $2.90.

  109. stackja

    herodotus
    #3622849, posted on October 18, 2020 at 10:47 am
    Belconnen was the site of the main fleet broadcast station.

    Thank you.

  110. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From feelthebern at 9:34 am:

    “A glorious read from Matt Taibbi.

    https://taibbi.substack.com/p/facebook-and-twitters-intervention?token=eon and on and on with the unnecessary metre long internet link

    Oh goodie, just what I was waiting for. Another anonymous, unknown site which would have me subscribe to it so that I can read something truly spiffing written by Our Matt – never heard of him – about … about … it’s a secret evidently.

    For offering my naive trust I risk being deluged with advertisements ranging from nubile wenches in the Urals seeking love, to some urger in Nairobi flogging crushing machines in good working order for use in baby oil production.

    Nah, not a sound referral.

  111. thefrollickingmole

    MatrixTransform
    #3622822, posted on October 18, 2020 at 10:22 am
    A black painted fingernail looks like a hammer-blow a week ago is working its way out

    if ever you have done that badly and it is so sore from throbbing … do not go to the Doc.
    They will heat up a paper clip and burn through the nail to relive the pressure.

    One of my first patients ever and that exact technique used.
    The pressure under the nail actually shot a stream of blood almost across the room. Instant relief for the patient though.

  112. woolfe

    When I was with Rio we used to play buzz word bingo at meetings like ave a conversation, reach out and deep dive

    Extra points for silo and place mat.

  113. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    It is sooo tiresome being surrounded by people who drink instant coffee and can’t pronounce “dauphinoise” or “tempranillo” or “paella” properly.

    Let’s have a go.

    Dop-hin-oyes, Tem-prer-nile-lo, Pie-la.

    How’s that? All with an Aussie accent too. Now open those effing skies.
    We’re off to Europe.
    Soon as I finish my Nescafe. 🙂

  114. woolfe

    Flat white up to $5.00 in most Perth joints.

  115. MatrixTransform

    Instant relief for the patient though.

    hurts like a broken bone.
    Couldn’t sleep

    first time was my little finger and a car door.
    subsequent times involved combinations or plugging chisels, mas hammers and hang overs

    a nice sharp 1/8 is good size for the job.

    somebody should tell the Docs

  116. sfw

    Professional ‘managers’ and uni graduates began taking senior positions in the MFB at a relatively early age. As well as issuing memos and SOP’s in managerial speak they would meet with Senior FF’s and Station Officers to explain why things had to change and that they knew better. Every now and then there would be pushback along the lines of “I’ve been in the job for 25 years”. The new inexperienced but all knowing managers would retort “You don’t have 25 years experience, you have one years experience 25 times”. An utterly stupid thing to say and believe but it would leave the older wiser heads a little lost and unable to defend the charge. Since then the entire job of firefighting in Australia has devolved into a highly paid, underworked sinecure, sought after by the lazy and the ambitious but there’s no room for the average, courageous, hard working white male anymore. The goal is diversity and safety everything else is secondary.

  117. Leigh Lowe

    Woolfe.
    I pride myself on my knowledge buzzword bingo … but “placemat”?
    You got me on that one.

  118. Rex Anger

    , to some urger in Nairobi flogging crushing machines in good working order for use in baby oil production.

    But, but, I dun’ flogged nuffin on this blog!

    It’s not a fun life being a Baby Oil salesman. 😭😭😭

    I wanna go be a gentleman grazier. Be a respeckable fellow about the town.

    Leigh Lowe, please to be a decent, only somewhat caddish fellow and hook a bounder up, would you? 🙁

  119. shatterzzz

    Yeah, shut up about the Vietnam War until the first Sunday after New Year’s Day 2021.
    That’s 3rd January 2021.

    Totally unimpressed .. Jan 3 is my burfday .. hell of a present ……..!

  120. Des Deskperson

    ‘Wasn’t Belco a RAN establishment?’

    The Belconnen Naval Transmitting Station, 1939 – 2005. It used to be quite a large facility, sitting on a hill in the middle of the burbs, a permanent establishment with a mess, beautifully tended grounds, 26 Canberra late Federation style residences and at least three large aerials.

    I can remember driving past on a Saturday mining in the eighties and seeing naval cadets being drilled there.

    All pulled down now, except, I believe, for the heritage-listed transmitter hall.

  121. Tel

    A black painted fingernail looks like a hammer-blow a week ago is working its way out. Unpleasant.

    Does anyone think that dopey guy could puzzle out how to use a hammer?

  122. Some History

    Yesterday – 18,546 tests, 2 positives

  123. Roger

    Nineteen pilot whales dead in Coromandel stranding

    You can never find a marine biologist when you need one.

  124. stackja

    Des Deskperson
    #3622871, posted on October 18, 2020 at 11:04 am

    Thank you.

  125. Steve trickler

    Leigh Lowe
    #3622868, posted on October 18, 2020 at 11:02 am
    Woolfe.
    I pride myself on my knowledge buzzword bingo … but “placemat”?
    You got me on that one.

    My Grandma from Holland says hello. Big smile from above the clouds.

    “placemat”

    Well done, Woolfe. I am four years of age and getting served up dinner.

  126. Arky

    Alls not doom and gloom in Unzud.

    The libertarians (ACT) went from 0.5 to 8%,

    ..
    Oh God.
    New Zealand libertarians.
    Knowing how weird the Australian ones are, can you imagine the NZ ones?
    It’s going to take all the danger, dirtiness and romance out of rooting a sheep when they legalise marrying ’em.

  127. Nob

    woolfe
    #3622864, posted on October 18, 2020 at 10:58 am
    Flat white up to $5.00 in most Perth joints.

    Well it was already $4.50 for years.

  128. OldOzzie

    Budapest Blasts Biden on ‘Son’s Ukrainian Energy Deals’ After Attack on Hungary and Poland

    Joe Biden has triggered a huge diplomatic row with NATO members Hungary and Poland after appearing to lump them in with Belarus as “totalitarian regimes”, with the Hungarian government demanding answers on his family’s alleged corruption in Ukraine.

    “You see what’s happening in everything from Belarus to Poland to Hungary and the rise of totalitarian regimes in the world, and, as well as, this President embraces all the thugs of the world,” said the 77-year-old presidential hopeful at a recent town hall event.

    Biden’s seeming comparison of Poland and Hungary, both European Union democracies and parties to the NATO defence alliance in good standing, with Belaurs and other “totalitarian regimes” sparked outrage in both countries, with the Hungarian government of Trump ally Viktor Orbán launching an all-out counter-attack on the Democrats and Biden personally.

    “We may still remember the kind of Central European policy the Democrats pursued for eight years; we may still recall the continuous lecturing, accusations and attacks,” railed the country’s foreign minister, Péter Szijjártó, in a video message uploaded to Facebook, denouncing Biden’s comments as having “nothing to do with reality”.

    Szijjártó further recalled how, under Obama and Biden, “members of the U.S. diplomatic corps in Budapest openly took part in opposition protests and published ‘extraordinarily biased’ statements with the aim of supporting left-liberal parties and attacking the Hungarian government,” according to the official About Hungary website.

    The foreign minister went on the note that Biden seemed “particularly busy” when it came to foreign policy under the Obama administration, suggesting that for a time, “and I exaggerate a bit, Biden spent more of his time outside D.C. in Ukraine than in rural America.”

    Zoltan [email protected]
    16 Oct
    Hungary under the Orbán Government has been one of the US’s staunchest allies in NATO. So, this is what we can expect from the Democrats if they win the election? More condescension and lecturing?

  129. OldOzzie

    Arky
    #3622883, posted on October 18, 2020 at 11:14 am
    Alls not doom and gloom in Unzud.

    The libertarians (ACT) went from 0.5 to 8%,

    Oh God.
    New Zealand libertarians.
    Knowing how weird the Australian ones are, can you imagine the NZ ones?

    It’s going to take all the danger, dirtiness and romance out of rooting a sheep when they legalise marrying ’em.

    Bur will they put away their GumBoots or will they wear White GumBoots ?

  130. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    As the US election campaign hurtles to the finish, Donald Trump’s travel schedule speaks volumes about his grim predicament.

    Grim indeed, another 4 years of cleaning shit out of a corrupt and lawless system

  131. woolfe

    LL,
    When you have an idea to say, reduce productivity you put it out there as a place mat to hold down the idea and build on it.

    We used to put the odd out of context word in to see the expressions on the head office types turn briefly from puzzlement to little nods of agreement when they realise they may not be fully up to buzzwords. Much tapping of Ipads.

  132. Rex Anger

    On the subject of buzzwords, I once deliberately used ‘programmatic specifictity’ in a sentence (and actually gotmit to make sense. Another Kevvy Rudd failure!) in an Expression of Interest I had to write in order to act as a Senior Sleep Scientist for 3 weeks. The lady in charge of the lab insisted on lots of buzzwords, so I did. I also did a lot of pandering to her insecurities (every Scientist under her ran rings round her in both knowledge and skills). I got the temporary job…

  133. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    obama is in it up to his eyeballs

  134. Anthony

    Why is this FI boring Victorians shitless every day?

  135. rickw

    Australia keeps sucking hard!

  136. Arky

    Listening to Dan.
    Good news.
    Dogs are now permitted to sniff two other dog’s butts during the permitted exercise time, and you are allowed to go outside once an hour for two minutes in order to pass wind IF you have at least one adult female in the household.

  137. Tel

    Since then the entire job of firefighting in Australia has devolved into a highly paid, underworked sinecure, sought after by the lazy and the ambitious but there’s no room for the average, courageous, hard working white male anymore. The goal is diversity and safety everything else is secondary.

    The goal is power. If you can use political means to get someone into a good paying job, and that person had no hope of getting there by their own merits, then you have a reliable and loyal supporter for your political cause.

    All those other buzzwords, “diversity” or “safety” etc. mean nothing, they are window dressing and excuses and cover for the main plan which is placement of political operatives. We know this because of the harsh treatment dealt out to any of these “diversity” groups should they decide to get interested in conservative politics (e.g. Milo Yiannopoulos, Candice Owens, Andy Ngo, George Zimmerman).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who,_whom%3F

    That’s the entire socialist mindset … everything zero sum … by any means necessary.

  138. Some History

    Hunchback: Yes, we have stayed apart, but we have stuck together.

    Brrrrm TISH!

  139. Dianeh

    Dan can’t just open up regional Victoria where it is completely safe, he has to keep making up stupid rules.

    And the rules for metro, further bureaucratic rubbish. What is the possible health benefit of being limited to 25km radius from home?

    Does it make them feel smarter making up these rubbish rules and conditions?

    Does Dan think that this makes him look competent and that he ‘saving’ everyone.

    Just open up Victoria for fuck sake.

  140. Some History

    Hunchback: Yes, we have stayed apart, but we have stuck together.

    His slogans and delivery could be straight out of Get Smart.

  141. thefrollickingmole

    a nice sharp 1/8 is good size for the job.

    They do make nail drills.
    But it can be hard to convince someone of “let me hold this vibrating thing against the most painful thing you have ever experienced so far in your life for a few seconds’…

    Up there with “let me push against that painful thing with a red hot paperclip to burn a hole in it”..

    Says a lot for the pain that pretty well everyone says yes to either in the end.

  142. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hunchback: Yes, we have stayed apart, but we have stuck together.

    Someone should ask him about smooching and nookie.

    Covid Police: Couple Fined Hundreds for Kissing Outside (17 Oct)

    The incident took place on October 9th when the couple, a 40-year-old Italian man and a Polish woman, had left their house to go out to a local restaurant. While walking hand in hand, the couple kissed each other and were almost immediately surrounded by police.

    Sex Between Non-Cohabiting Couples Banned Again in Virus Hotspots (17 Oct)

    Couples living apart in Tiers 2 and 3 of Boris Johnson’s lockdown zones are no longer allowed to have sex in each other’s homes unless they are part of a “support bubble”.

    Maybe Dan could designate official support bubbles all over Victoria.

  143. Old School Conservative

    Since then the entire job of firefighting in Australia has devolved into a highly paid, underworked sinecure, sought after by the lazy and the ambitious but there’s no room for the average, courageous, hard working white male anymore. The goal is diversity and safety everything else is secondary.

    A family experience supports that opinion.
    Spot on.

  144. Some History

    – No time limit for outdoor exercising /socializing

    – The outdoor leash has been extended from 5km to 25km

    – Hairdressers open

    – Outdoor gatherings – 10 people from 2 households

    Oh, thank you, thank you for your graciousness, your Hunchback supremeness.

  145. thefrollickingmole

    This is a nice good news story.

    Also nice that the family supports the clemency.

    Murderer who tackled London Bridge attacker with narwhal tusk pardoned
    Steven Gallant has sentence reduced as a result of ‘exceptionally brave actions’

    The Queen has granted a pardon to the murderer who helped disrupt the London Bridge terror attack by confronting Usman Khan with a narwhal tusk while on day release.

    Steven Gallant, who was praised for risking his life to stop the attack, has been granted the royal prerogative of mercy, an extremely rare case of absolution for a convicted murderer.

    Gallant, 42, will see the 17-year sentence he received in 2005 reduced by 10 months, and could apply for parole next June, the Daily Mirror reported.

    The Ministry of Justice said the Queen was advised to grant this pardon as a result of Gallant’s “exceptionally brave actions […] which helped save people’s lives despite the tremendous risk to his own”.

    In an extraordinary turn of events, the family of firefighter Barrie Jackson, whom Gallant killed outside a pub in Hull, backed the decision to free the murderer early.

    Jackson’s student son Jack, 21, said: “I have mixed emotions – but what happened at London Bridge goes to show the reality that people can change,” adding that he would not rule out meeting his father’s killer one day.

    Gallant was on his first day release at a Learning Together conference set up to help rehabilitate prisoners when the attack took place in the Fishmongers’ Hall next to London Bridge last November.

    The convicted terrorist Khan, 28, had also been invited to the event as a rehabilitating offender out on licence, despite being jailed in 2012 for planning to bomb the London Stock Exchange.
    After Khan produced two knives and attacked conference co-ordinators Jack Merritt, 25, and Saskia Jones, 23, Gallant was handed an ornamental 5ft narwhal tusk from a wall to use as a weapon and chased the terrorist on to the bridge, where Khan was shot dead by police.

    Afterwards, Gallant said he “didn’t hesitate” to confront Khan. In a statement he said: “I could tell something was wrong and had to help. I saw injured people. Khan was stood in the foyer with two large knives in his hands. He was a clear danger to all.”

    Merritt’s father David, 55, of Cottenham in Cambridgeshire, said: “Steve fully deserves this pardon, or reduction in sentence. It is fantastic. He was very close to Jack and he turned his life around and reformed. I am really pleased for him.”

    Gallant and Merritt had met previously through Jack’s role at rehabilitation service Learning Together in 2016. Merritt had mentored Gallant behind bars, and Gallant has described him as a “role model and friend”.

    Referring to his conviction for murder, Gallant said: “It is right I was handed a severe penalty for my actions. Once I’d accepted my punishment, I decided to seek help. When you go to prison, you lose control of your life. Bettering yourself becomes one of the few things you can do while reducing the existing burden on society.”

    Neil Hudgell, Gallant’s solicitor, said: “Steve feels a debt of gratitude to all those who helped him to achieve a royal prerogative of mercy. He is passionate about using his knowledge and experiences to help others steer away from crime.”

    The last murderer to be given a royal pardon was former IRA leader and police informer Sean O’Callaghan, who was freed nearly 25 years ago.

  146. Some History

    The Hunchback reiterates (for the 1,894,395th time) that rules are important, now even more important. People must follow the RULES.

  147. thefrollickingmole

    And now to return to your regular broadcast of “My fucking money pays for this shit”

    Casey Jenkins v Australia Council: when controversial art loses funding, what does it mean for culture?
    The artist intended to self-inseminate over a live stream, in a work that could demystify queer parenthood. But after news got out, the grant was revoked.

    n 1 May 2020 the Australian performance artist Casey Jenkins received a $25,000 grant from the Australia Council to present a work, titled Procreate, at festivals in the UK and Chile.

    But as the pandemic spread, international borders closed, and Jenkins – who uses they/them pronouns – sought a variation to the funding, proposing a new Covid-safe project instead: Immaculate. The work would feature a live stream of Jenkins – who hopes to fall pregnant – self-inseminating with donated sperm, while discussing their past experiences with conception.

    Jenkins is known for work that explores bodies, biology and social expectations, which has been exhibited in Venice, London and Berlin. A 2013 performance, Casting Off My Womb, featured an extended exercise in knitting yarn that had been inserted into their vagina. In the case of Immaculate, the performance – which had the donor’s consent – would take place once a month for four months, or until conception; the aim was to confront stigmas against queer pregnancy and parenting in the art world, while documenting what Jenkins calls “the simple, common and loving ways that we live our lives and create and nurture our families”.


    On 21 September, after negative articles about Australia Council’s politicised grant allocations had appeared in the Daily Telegraph and the Daily Mail, which both led with Jenkins’ work, Jenkins received a letter from the Australia Council CEO, Adrian Collette, officially rescinding the grant.

    “We cannot be party to any act that could result in bringing a new life into the world,” Collette wrote, explaining that the project “exposes the Australia Council to unacceptable, potentially long-term and incalculable risk.

    “The possible current and longer-term consequences for the child, the child’s parent and the child’s donor are inappropriate for a corporate government entity to accept.”

    In a public statement, the Australia Council denied that government intervention or negative media coverage were factors in the decision. “Legal advice identified the possibility that a legal claim could be brought in the future, and the Council determined this was not an acceptable risk for a corporate Commonwealth entity,” it said. Explaining the backflip, the statement said that the influx of variation requests in the wake of the pandemic led to Immaculate being “approved before being sufficiently reviewed”.

    But the decision to kill the contract raises worrying questions about the potential government overreach and the possibility of censorship in Australian cultural policy at a time when the financial crisis in the sector is already threatening to shut out marginalised voices for good.

  148. Ed Case

    From what i’ve heard, the old time fireman was a lazy alco who could pass the physical and run into a burning building.
    The issue with meeting diversity quotas is that women can’t pass the physical, aren’t stupid enough to run into burning buildings, and aren’t interested in the job anyway.
    So, the number of firemen isn’t going down, the number of support staff is going up.
    Plus a lot of rooting.
    All in all, not a bad thing.

  149. OldOzzie

    Hunter Biden also had business dealings in Kazakhstan: report

    Hunter Biden is facing fresh questions over business dealing in yet another nation — Kazakhstan.

    Between 2012 and 2014 — when his father Joe Biden served as Vice President — Hunter Biden worked as a go-between to Kenes Rakishev, a Kazakh oligarch with close ties to the country’s longtime kleptocratic leader Nursultan Nazarbayev, The Daily Mail reported.

    The British tabloid said they obtained emails from “anti-corruption campaigners” in Kazakhstan showing Hunter making contact with Rakishev and attempting to facilitate investment for his cash in New York, Washington DC and a Nevada mining company.

    Through his connections, emails show Hunter Biden successfully engineered a $1 million investment from Rakishev to filmmaker Alexandra Forbes Kerry — the daughter of ex-Sen. and former Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry, the report said.

    Hunter Biden also traveled to the country’s capital of Astana for business talks.

  150. thefrollickingmole

    Sinc please ban Steve trickler for posting multiple Simpering Undead “musical” whining noises.
    ta.

  151. Some History

    Hunchback: We’re listening to the experts; we’re following the science.

    Ta Ta TISH!
    Brrrrm TISH! TISH!

  152. areff

    List of latest rules The Putz has plucked from Sutton’s arse:

    https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-10/201018%20-%20Metro%20Melb%20-%20Easing%20of%20restrictions%20.pdf

    Notice, retail stays shut but for some very minor changes.

  153. Some History

    The Hunchback is speaking very quickly; he’s hyped, some might even say, crazed.
    Is he on something?

  154. Some History

    The Hunchback wants to pounce on the virus.

  155. OldOzzie

    Denver news station hired FOUR other unlicensed security guards in addition to far-left gunman who killed Trump supporter

    A bizarre investigative piece published by 9NEWS, the NBC affiliate that reportedly hired the unlicensed security guard who fatally shot a Trump supporter during a Denver “Patriot Rally,” exposes the news station for contracting multiple unlicensed security guards.

    An investigation self-run by the publication found that 30-year-old Matthew Dolloff—who is facing second-degree murder charges for the alleged killing of a conservative demonstrator during dueling Denver rallies on Saturday—is not the only non-credentialed security guard to accompany 9NEWS crews at riots during the past five months. In fact, Dolloff is one of five unlicensed security agents.

    Under a taunting “Training Matters” heading, 9NEWS admitted that “those guards were not required to go through the extensive training Denver mandates all private security guards receive.”

  156. Some History

    Hunchback: No-one has a more complete picture of the virus than me and my team.

    Brrrrm TISH!

    TISH! TISH!

  157. JC

    Had a chat with a US trader. He reckons the very big rise in alt-energy and solar stocks is predicting a Hiden win.

    So there. 🙂 That’s an alternate view.

  158. Arky

    And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

    3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

    4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

    5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

    6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

    7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

    8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

  159. Some History

    The crazed Hunchback is loving the power trip.

  160. areff

    “Trust me,” says the lying Putz

  161. Mark A

    ” big house and pool in a top suburb, living the dream. “

    Yes but is there room for a pony?

    (only joking 😍❤😊)

  162. Farmer Gez

    Some History
    #3622927, posted on October 18, 2020 at 11:54 am
    Hunchback: No-one has a more complete picture of the virus than me and my team.

    Fig Jam.

  163. OldOzzie

    The significance of Macron’s war on [email protected]= Spectator UK

    In foreign policy, he could tackle the ideological extremism that is disseminated by the governments of Qatar and Turkey

    Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Emmanuel Macron recently announced that he wanted to end ‘[email protected] separatism’ in France. A minority of the country’s estimated six million M%slims risk forming a ‘counter-society’, he said. It is tough talk from the President, but Macron is keen to position himself as the defender of French values, and he has form: when statues were being pulled down across the western world, Macron proclaimed that ‘the Republic won’t erase any name from its history. It will forget none of its artworks. It won’t take down statues.’

    That Macron even gave an [email protected] speech was itself a sign of how fast the debate is moving in France. Five years ago, when Fox News referred to ‘no-go zones’ in Paris, the city’s mayor threatened to sue. Now we have an avowed centrist like Macron warning that the ‘final goal’ of the ‘ideology’ of [email protected] is to ‘take complete control’ of society. Anyone making such arguments just a few years ago would have been condemned by the left as an extremist. Macron is promising a law on ‘[email protected] separatism’, restricting home-schooling of M%slims and demanding that [email protected] groups in receipt of French state funding will have to sign a ‘secular charter’.

    But if he’s serious, why stop there?

  164. OldOzzie

    The significance of Macron’s war on [email protected]= Spectator UK

    In foreign policy, he could tackle the ideological extremism that is disseminated by the governments of Qatar and Turkey

    Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Emmanuel Macron recently announced that he wanted to end ‘[email protected] separatism’ in France. A minority of the country’s estimated six million M%slims risk forming a ‘counter-society’, he said. It is tough talk from the President, but Macron is keen to position himself as the defender of French values, and he has form: when statues were being pulled down across the western world, Macron proclaimed that ‘the Republic won’t erase any name from its history. It will forget none of its artworks. It won’t take down statues.’

    That Macron even gave an [email protected] speech was itself a sign of how fast the debate is moving in France. Five years ago, when Fox News referred to ‘no-go zones’ in Paris, the city’s mayor threatened to sue. Now we have an avowed centrist like Macron warning that the ‘final goal’ of the ‘ideology’ of [email protected] is to ‘take complete control’ of society. Anyone making such arguments just a few years ago would have been condemned by the left as an extremist. Macron is promising a law on ‘[email protected] separatism’, restricting home-schooling of M%slims and demanding that [email protected] groups in receipt of French state funding will have to sign a ‘secular charter’.

    But if he’s serious, why stop there?

  165. stackja

    Money people like green policies?
    Ordinary people will pay the bills.

  166. woolfe

    Jack Malloch. Military Alt Cats will like this.

    Running Guns into Yemen in 1963.

  167. Leigh Lowe

    areff

    #3622931, posted on October 18, 2020 at 11:58 am

    “Trust me,” says the lying Putz

    The cheques in the mail?
    Don’t worry, it’s just a normal cold sore?
    Of course I’ll pull out in time?

  168. JC

    Money people like green policies?
    Ordinary people will pay the bills.

    That’s a very, very stupid counter view.

  169. woolfe

    Hey religious Cats, whats the chance of our maker being the bearded vengeful, shouty, strike ye down Old Testament type God? Be so cool, be like the Colosseum when lefties arrive!

  170. thefrollickingmole

    JC
    #3622941, posted on October 18, 2020 at 12:02 pm
    Money people like green policies?
    Ordinary people will pay the bills.

    That’s a very, very stupid counter view.

    I dont think so.
    Green shit is a seemingly endless spigot of government money for the green boondoggles.
    In addition to that its actively punishing the productive parts of the economy to secure those funds (again, largely due to government direction).
    We are at the stage where people mindlessly accept “renew-balls is cheaper” without the fact that its the carbon charges levied on conventional power driving them to the wall.

    Why wouldnt money men pile into such a guaranteed income spinner?

  171. notafan

    Still have to wait til November for 2 visitors at home.

    Stuff that.

  172. notafan

    And no holy mass even in November.

  173. OldOzzie

    Biden: [email protected] Will Serve ‘At Every Level’ of His Administration

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/robert-spencer/2020/10/17/[email protected]066190

    The sparse attendance and conspicuous lack of enthusiasm at Joe Biden’s rallies seems to have led old Joe’s handlers, despite his 10,000-point lead in the polls, to decide that another round of Isl%mopandering might be just the shot in the arm their campaign needs. After all, hard-Leftists such as Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib and Linda Sarsour are all [email protected], and all were firmly in the Bernie Sanders camp before the Democratic National Committee shivved their man yet again. Their support for Biden has been decidedly tepid. And so it was time to send them some love.

    On Wednesday, Biden released a video message to [email protected] Advocates, the association of [email protected] lawyers that bears the primary responsibility for demanding, back in 2010, that the Obama administration remove all mention of Isl%m and j*had from counterterror training. Obama, of course, immediately complied, despite the fact that this would hamstring the ability of law enforcement and intelligence agencies to understand, and defeat, j*hadists. And now Joe is working hard to show them that he will be just as solicitous.

    “Today,” Biden declared, “trust is ebbing; hope seems elusive. Instead of healing, we’re being ripped apart.” That’s actually true, Joe, but whose fault is it, really? Biden continued: “And I refuse to let that happen. We have too bright a future to leave it shipwrecked on the shoals of anger and division.” After that poetic flight, Biden got to the point: “As president, I’ll work with you to rip the poison of hate from our society, honour your contributions and seek your ideas. My administration will look like America, [email protected] Americans serving at every level.”

    Let’s see. [email protected] make up around one percent of America’s population. So if the administration of President Biden (or President Harris, or President Pelosi) is actually going to “look like America,” it will feature one [email protected] appointee for every ninety-nine [email protected] appointees.

  174. Some History

    Hunchback: To not follow the Public Health advice is irresponsible.

    Ta Ta TISH! T-T-TISH!

  175. rickw

    Hunchback: No-one has a more complete picture of the virus than me and my team.

    Half your team can’t read emails you fuck head.

  176. JC

    Mole.

    Green energy is not a Trump administration priority to say the least.
    The S&P is up 42% since the March lows.
    Over the same time QCLN, an alternative energy ETF is up 185%.

    I’m not sure I agree with the trader’s views as I think the rest of the market would be dropping because of the Hiden possibility. However, to argue a rise like that, not just this stock, but across the sector is because silly rich people have an affinity to alt- energy doesn’t explain the move. Rich people may like alt, but they aren’t stupid. 🙂

    Also, I’m not sure what the big deal is because of course there are people who think the corrupt little prick is going to win.

  177. Struth

    Good moaning to all you incredibly educated elites out there, and the other dribblers of 24/7 shit.

    Hey Nota, even the Outsiders are telling you that it’s a globalist coup d’etat.
    Rowan Dean specifically pointed to the screen and said, “I’m not telling you that, they are telling you that” referring to Guterres and the usual subjects, and proceeded to show film of them doing precisely that.
    Throughout this whole thing, you have been 100 % wrong, you have been hysterical and supporting of totalitarianism, although it must be pointed out, only until stage two, (FMD) and calling all those that researched things, conspiracy theorists.
    Yet you still have the front to show up here and continue on dribbling shit , with zero smartz, often just mouthing the words your boyfriend Frank uses, like some bubble gum chewing widgie standing behind her bodgie boy friend pulling faces.

    KD shows us potential, he has the right idea a lot of the time, in his heart, but shows us that Victorian parochialism and love of football that takes up his time , could be better spent with his nose in a history book. Like most Victorians, who know much more about footy, the players, the footy gossip, and have a passion toward it, second to none, would find , if the same was directed toward politics, they’d not only be free right now, they’d be a super power.
    Much of Australia is the same and people here know it, but hate people like me for bringing it up.
    Bloody Australian men will virtually shirt front each other regarding team sports and associated tribalism, but won’t bring up politics……they fear opening their gobs, something I found fascinating over the years.
    Such gusto with sport, yet politics sees them mumble something about “they’re all the bloody same” and slink off. (cats here excepted of course)
    Of course this was going to happen.

    In the worst lock down in the world, Victorians, when questioned about actions or otherwise, immediately become defensive and parochial, pointing back at people in relative freedom in comparison and scream…….whaddabout yous! It’s very tribal, very Geelong – Collingwood.
    In this gob smacking emergency, they still go on about football, watch it, and comment on it, which the government makes sure it provides, even in lock down, as well they know it is the opium for the masses.
    It’s why Bathurst will still run.
    And yet, apparently, I’m the boof headed bogan according to Huck Fed.

    Anyone who is honest about this will tell you that the worst indignity suffered by Victorians as they would see it, is not the complete loss of freedom and Liberty, but the grand final being played in QLD.
    Apparently a patch of grass from the MCG will be placed on the field at the GABBA, which will be stacked to the hilt with spectators, because Covid only attacks the people the government declares it will attack.
    It has nasty symptoms of feeling 100% well, so it’s a sneaky bugger.
    And I have always been of the opinion we are all Australians but Victorians are Victorians first and Australians second and have seen it that way for some time.
    A lot of the blow back I get here is from locked down Victorians going quite insane who don’t see criticism of what is going on down there as criticism from one Australian to other Australians, but as Victorians see it, criticism of Victorians by a Queenslander…..totally unacceptable.

    Even if I have lived and worked in all states spending most of my life based out of the NT and WA, and even lived for a bit in good old Moonie Ponds, down near Brighton, and used to promote the place with great enthusiasm.
    I used to do my turn on the double decker hop on hop off tour around central Melbourne, take people to Ballarat and the Penguins, the twelve apostles, etc, in between my around Australia tours that departed from Melbourne in those days.
    You know, the bogan work that teaches you nothing about your country and it’s history.
    I used to love Melbourne.

    Australians as a whole, do not deserve freedom or democracy, and I am not singling out Victorians, they are singling themselves out.
    This pathetic nation is no different to NZ.
    There’s might be Rugby, Victoria may be the AFL, but there is no difference.
    The election in NZ proves people are voting for tyranny.
    London is going back into lock down as the global socialists there fuck with people’s minds with lying propaganda and fear mongering, and flex their muscle, and the people are weak, dumbed down, and through multicultural policies and cultural marxism, unchristian in thought.
    No different to here, and Victoria is, not by it’s own fault, but the fault of the Federal Liberal party, the worst affected.
    After NZ election, I’m not holding out much hope due to fuckhead Queenslanders either.
    If they too vote for tyranny, we’re done.
    And it Trump wins there will be a civil war, you can just about bet on it.
    If not, they get another four more years and will China and the Globalists let it slide and give up after this?

    I could go on, but that should be enough to upset those that don’t know how to scroll.

  178. chrisl #3622275, posted on October 17, 2020 at 8:01 pm

    So there is a “ring of steel” around Melbourne. I was in a BT50 which isn’t a car so I took the right lane. Police lights flashed, so I pulled over. Any reason you are the truck lane?
    Because I am a truck .Oh so you have a truck license do you? Well you don’t need a truck license up to 4 tonne I said. No you are a car said the copper .

    Can you use that to renegotiate your CityLink toll schedule, Chris? 🙂

  179. P

    Cardinal Pell celebrates first public Mass since returning to Rome

    Cardinal Pell celebrated the Mass on the 10th anniversary of the canonization of Mother Mary MacKillop,

    The congregation of some 45 persons, in attendance by invitation only from the Australian Embassy, included the former Australian prime minister, Tony Abbott, a friend and strong defender of the cardinal who happened to be in town on other business,

    A prayer was said during Mass for the late Australian ambassador to the Holy See, Tim Fischer, a close friend of the cardinal who headed the country’s diplomatic mission at the time of the canonization of Mother Mary MacKillop.

    He is expected to stay in Rome at least until his 80th birthday on June 8, 2021, and possibly much longer.

  180. cohenite

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3622694, posted on October 18, 2020 at 8:45 am
    From The Oz….

    “Nine arrested over teacher’s ‘terrorist’ beheading in France

    Teacher ‘assassinated’ for discussing images of Mo* in Paris

    RoP never sleeps or is bothered by the chunk virus. The real problem however are racists and traitors like the troll who apologise continually for the RoP. RoP is incompatible with Western values. And all RoP members are the same. Clive Kessler, the emeritus professor of sociology and anthropology at UNSW. explains why:

    Among RoP worldwide today, about 10 to 15 per cent, it may be suggested, are modernist, reform-minded and democratic; perhaps another 10 to 15 per cent are militant, radical, extreme and potentially active in violent forms.

    Between these two clusters, the 70 per cent in the middle represent what may be called conventional or quasi-traditional RoP.

    The question is: what is the relation of the views of the radical extreme to those of the centrist mainstream? Are they opposed, a deviationist breakaway, or are they basically identical, or at least complementary?

    It would be reassuring if things were otherwise, but the basic facts are clear. Like the radical fringe or fundamentalist extreme, the RoP mainstream adheres to, through explicit affirmation or by unreflecting habitual assent, the same underlying propositions that constitute the radical and militant world view. Like that of the militants, their RoP, or view of it, is basically supersessionist.

    The 10-15% of RoP who adhere to Western values are NOT RoP, it’s that simple. So that leaves essentially ALL the RoP to be either active terrorists or supporting that terrorism; they are literally the enemy within. But like I say without traitors like the troll supporting them under the banner of wascism the RoP could be quickly dealt with, by banning and preventing the bastards from coming.

  181. rickw

    Hey religious Cats, whats the chance of our maker being the bearded vengeful, shouty, strike ye down Old Testament type God? Be so cool, be like the Colosseum when lefties arrive!

    He is consistent from Old to New. Just that the world interprets it in a particular way. Jesus Christ talked more about Hell than any other topic.

    I wouldn’t be messing with Him.

  182. thefrollickingmole

    JC

    Was thinking a little more of Austfailia.

    But dont state governments over there have the ability to run their own “green nude eels” anyway?

  183. JC

    He is expected to stay in Rome at least until his 80th birthday on June 8, 2021, and possibly much longer.

    He’s never coming back.

  184. notafan

    Hey struth I don’t read your daily drivel

    Yes I saw I got a mention. That far no further.

  185. Ryan

    What is with this ‘outdoor religious gathering’ he keeps going on about? While restaurants and bars will be able to have 20 people inside in November we still cannot have anyone inside for a mass.

    Let us go to church you cockhead.

  186. calli

    Calli, honest question(s):

    How do you know so much?
    Do you dredge through every OT post?

    No Gilas, though I do a speed read to get the gist and often click on the Youtubes of alternative news commentators. And, of course, the Progress of Jezebel (aka The A).

    I knew huck was training as a driver years ago. I was the one who asked him about VicRail and suicide. I always remember when people are kind enough to give me an answer. Simple as that.

  187. JC

    mole

    Fair enough.

    Sure, the state governments there have a lot more power to influence policy. However the big gorilla in all this the Federal government.

  188. notafan

    Christians can’t be trusted.

    Dan hates Victorians.

  189. incoherent rambler

    Dogs are now permitted to sniff two other dog’s butts during the permitted exercise time, and you are allowed to go outside once an hour for two minutes in order to pass wind IF you have at least one adult female in the household.

    Arky!

  190. Infidel Tiger

    BBC News (World)
    @BBCWorld
    Dutch government approves plans to allow euthanasia for terminally ill children aged between one and 12

    Liberalism is cancer.

  191. rickw

    He’s never coming back.

    Same with a lot of people if they can manage to get out of this shithole.

  192. Some History

    Summary:

    The Hunchback is becoming more (if that’s possible) arrogant, condescending, snide, and obnoxious.

  193. Rex Anger

    Dogs are now permitted to sniff two other dog’s butts during the permitted exercise time, and you are allowed to go outside once an hour for two minutes in order to pass wind IF you have at least one adult female in the household.

    Arky!

    Get away from that parson[imonious] Struth before he shits on you!

  194. EvilElvis

    Ta Ta TISH!
    Brrrrm TISH! TISH!

    Loving your current body of work, SH.

  195. JC

    I think Bannon was a nightmare in the White House, but he’s really good outside and very intelligent and perceptive.

    What is the most incriminating thing on the hard drive? Rudy has suggested illegal things, and as Revolver reported the FBI person tasked with the hard drive is associated with the child pornography division. Could you give more insight into how bad it is we’re talking about?

    Mr. Bannon: Joe Biden is a liar, a fraud, and compromised by Chinese cash. In short, he is a national security crisis. The hard drive combines emails and text messages that show a massive involvement with companies controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. Also, there are 25,000 images that show a drug-addled, depraved lifestyle — one that decent hardworking Americans will not want near the White House.

    Revolver: The FBI has been holding onto the hard drive for almost a year? Any sense of why? Was there any indication that they were seriously interested in criminal case, assuming that there is, in fact, illegal material on there? If not, why would the FBI simply hold onto information like that?

    Mr. Bannon: The President must confront the director of the FBI on why the information housed on this hard drive was not moved on immediately. If the content of the hard drive had been released when received in November 2019, there would have been no impeachment of Trump, and Bernie Sanders would be the Democratic Party nominee. This confrontation should take place this weekend in the Oval Office. If Wray doesn’t have a bulletproof reason he should be fired in the room.

    Revolver: What are your best estimates on how many foreign entities may have obtained possession of the hard drive? Chinese intel?

    Mr. Bannon: It’s the actions represented on the hard drive that the American people must understand our enemies know about. The cash and equity given for access to Biden, the favors done for that cash, the drugs, the depravity. The CCP, Russian Intel, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Intel Services — they know the Bidens are for sale.

    Revolver: Is there any reason to expect that the contents of the hard drive will be revealed before the election? If yes, will people actually care enough for it to substantially effect the outcome?

    Mr. Bannon: The Bidens are about to be hit with multiple stories from multiple media sources based off evidence beyond the hard drive. Fox and Peter Schweitzer have already started but bigger more mainstream companies are going to weigh in. We already have set in motion the various apparatuses that will release everything.

    Revolver: What are your thoughts on the efforts to discredit the hard drive as “Russian disinformation?” Is there any evidence this is Russian disinformation at all? At any rate, what matters is not whether Biden-supporting media calls it “disinformation” — what matters is whether it’s true. Has the Biden camp explicitly denied the factual accusations pertaining to the hard drives?

    Mr. Bannon: Rupert Murdoch’s team at the NY Post is as sophisticated and tough as there is in all media. They had the metadata and they signed off to go forward. The Russia excuse — and it is an excuse — collapsed when Fox verified the information with someone on the email chain. The Biden campaign has yet to say these emails or photos are not real. The reason? Hunter’s lawyer sent emails trying to recover the hard drive. These are real — the Bidens know they are real — and they are going to have to deal with that reality

  196. Cassie of Sydney

    JC
    #3622966, posted on October 18, 2020 at 12:18 pm
    He is expected to stay in Rome at least until his 80th birthday on June 8, 2021, and possibly much longer.

    He’s never coming back.”

    He should never have come back in 2017. Pell maintains much dignity considering what he has endured.

  197. Ed Case

    ***Had a chat with a US trader. He reckons the very big rise in alt-energy and solar stocks is predicting a Hiden win.***
    That’s it!
    America is out of the Paris Climate Agreement on Inauguration Day if Trump is Reelected and staying in if he isn’t, so the way to bet is Trump won’t be reelected.

  198. MatrixTransform

    List of latest rules

    yes and VikPol still on alert for naughty rule breakers

    everybody still needs to carry ‘papers’ to avoid arrest

    health checks interrogations are us

  199. if ever you have done that badly and it is so sore from throbbing … do not go to the Doc.
    They will heat up a paper clip and burn through the nail to relive the pressure.

    Huh? What damned fool went to the doc?
    Just had that here with a toenail, the staff in question (female natch) had never before banged or lifted a toenail & refused all advice – went to the doc.

    Advice from the blokes at work was: “use the smallest drill bit we’ve got, & drill a hole yerself”
    A week later & still hobbling, she’s beginning to wonder if the blokes at work weren’t correct.

  200. Some History

    The Hunchback is not happy with the immigration Feds regarding the missing kiwis.

  201. JC

    Case.

    The US is NOT part of the Paris accord and hasn’t been since the first year of Trump’s presidency.

  202. Makka

    Does Dan think that this makes him look competent and that he ‘saving’ everyone.

    Saving? Dan created the total clusterfk he is now saving us from. Besides, Dan can never ever again even appear competent. Not after the lies and deception he has revealed over the last several months as he crushed the life out of Victoria.

  203. cohenite

    There it is. I don’t know how Trump does it, with arseholes like Wray still running around:

    Revolver: The FBI has been holding onto the hard drive for almost a year? Any sense of why? Was there any indication that they were seriously interested in criminal case, assuming that there is, in fact, illegal material on there? If not, why would the FBI simply hold onto information like that?

    Mr. Bannon: The President must confront the director of the FBI on why the information housed on this hard drive was not moved on immediately. If the content of the hard drive had been released when received in November 2019, there would have been no impeachment of Trump, and Bernie Sanders would be the Democratic Party nominee. This confrontation should take place this weekend in the Oval Office. If Wray doesn’t have a bulletproof reason he should be fired in the room.

  204. Makka

    If Wray doesn’t have a bulletproof reason he should be fired in the room.

    Absolutely. He is a cardboard cut out. Hopeless. And while at it , fire the D-CIA who is an obstructive swamp creature.

    Mr. Bannon: The Bidens are about to be hit with multiple stories from multiple media sources based off evidence beyond the hard drive. Fox and Peter Schweitzer have already started but bigger more mainstream companies are going to weigh in. We already have set in motion the various apparatuses that will release everything.

    Do it Bannon. Blow that fetid bucket or turds sky high.

  205. Tom

    Mr. Bannon: The Bidens are about to be hit with multiple stories from multiple media sources based off evidence beyond the hard drive. Fox and Peter Schweitzer have already started but bigger more mainstream companies are going to weigh in. We already have set in motion the various apparatuses that will release everything.

    Wow. Just wow.

    This is the biggest story in US politics since Watergate, but 90%+ of journalists, who are supposed to be the public’s eyes and ears, aren’t interested because of the mad anti-democratic tribal ideology they follow.

  206. Struth

    Look at NZ.
    Victorians will vote Dan in again with a 90% majority going on what we have seen so far.

  207. Ed Case

    JC
    There’s a 4 year lag time between giving Notice of Leaving The Paris Agreement, and actually being out.
    That 4 years Notice expires Inauguration Day 2021.
    That’s the reason Trump won’t win and was never going to win in 2020.
    There’s just too much money riding on the World’s Largest Economy remaining in Paris.

  208. Do it Bannon. Blow that fetid bucket or turds sky high.

    They’d better get cracking, this thing is time critical.

  209. Albatross

    Ed Case
    #3622999, posted on October 18, 2020 at 12:39 pm
    […]
    That’s the reason Trump won’t win and was never going to win in 2020.

    If he wins do you promise to stop posting here you schizoid?

  210. OldOzzie

    Further to

    JC
    #3622981, posted on October 18, 2020 at 12:26 pm
    I think Bannon was a nightmare in the White House, but he’s really good outside and very intelligent and perceptive.

    Giuliani: Here’s How I Verified the Data From Hunter’s Hard Drive

    “The way I came to have this was my lawyer was contacted by this gentleman who owns this store that fixes hard drives. Hunter Biden had come into the store probably a year ago, turned over three devices. The guy couldn’t fix one, fixed the other immediately and had to keep the hard drive,” Giuliani explained. “Hunter Biden came back in two days and brought him some kind of keyboard that would help and within a fairly short period of time he had it fixed. He started calling Biden to pick it up. Couldn’t get any answer, any response, didn’t get paid.”

    “For some reason Hunter Biden never showed up. One of the reasons may be, the gentleman says, Hunter Biden was so drunk that he had a little trouble even getting his name out. And since I’ve now looked at the hard drive I find that to be very credible because – and this may be an exaggeration – but he looks like he’s high on crack every other day for the last five or six years.”

    The left has taken issue with the timeline of this surfaced hard drive because it was dropped off a year ago. According to Giuliani, the computer store owner made four copies of the hard drive but turned the original over to the FBI. He gave two copies to his friends in case he was killed. He waited four or five months before he sent letters to various Republicans asking if they would be interested in the data.

    “We were the first to respond, or the only ones to respond,” the president’s personal attorney explained.

    Giuliani’s attorney, Bob Costello, met up with the store owner and spent about a week reviewing the information it contained to make sure it was legal to release. The contract Hunter Biden signed said that if the computer wasn’t picked up in 90 days it would be considered abandoned and the owner would obtain possession.

    Based on what’s known, Giuliani stated Hunter Biden should be in prison for failing to register as a foreign agent, which is what Paul Manafort went to jail for.

    Which also ties in with

    BREAKING: Email Sent to Computer Shop Owner John Paul Mac Isaac from Hunter Biden’s Attorney Is Released!

  211. Some History

    The Hunchback trying some stand-up comedy – unsuccessfully.

  212. Some History

    Sledgehammer Sutto reasonably getting a grilling (does anyone know the name of the woman journalist doing the grilling?).

  213. Makka

    Imagine how pissed off the loyal and committed Bernie Bros must be, having agreed to sign up for this corrupt clown show “The Bidens”. Their Dear Leader’s nomination was sacrificed for the greater good only to now see all the putrid corrupt mess warehoused inside the Biden basement now being publicly exposed.

    I wonder how many will give the election a miss?

  214. Leigh Lowe

    Some History

    #3623012, posted on October 18, 2020 at 12:49 pm

    Sledgehammer Sutto reasonably getting a grilling (does anyone know the name of the woman journalist doing the grilling?).

    If it’s not Peta Credlin it will probably be Rachel Baxendale of the Oz.
    No-one else bothers.

  215. JC

    I thought so. Adam Schiff says.

    Adam Schiff claims Hunter Biden email stories come ‘from the Kremlin’
    ‘We know that this whole smear on Joe Biden comes from the Kremlin.’

    This bug-eyed lunatic is a single act show.

  216. JC

    🙂

    The Hunter Biden emails were fabricated by the same Russian operative who beat up Jussie Smollett, wrote homophobic slurs on Joy Reid’s blog, and hacked Steve Scully.

  217. Leigh Lowe

    Eyrie

    #3622712, posted on October 18, 2020 at 8:59 am

    The bottom line is that Jo Nova was totally wrong. Absolute junk science.
    She’s been Karening her way through the whole Covid thing.
    I’m afraid she’s turned out to be a complete fruit loop.

    What is really weird is that she has spent years pointing out the unreliability of predictive climate models.
    Along comes a predictive pandemic model and she is totally on-board … scepticism about modelling gone.

  218. notafan

    That’s be two years after the Palacechook landslide.

  219. Ed Case

    Jo Nova led everyone up the garden path for ten years arguing about 1 Degree of Warming in the Ocean or some such rubbish, while State and Federal Climate Laws were enacted without opposition.
    No surprise really, she is funded by the Koch Brothers’ [huge investors in Renewables] Heartland Institute.

  220. Sledgehammer Sutto reasonably getting a grilling (does anyone know the name of the woman journalist doing the grilling?).

    Suicide Sutton didn’t much enjoy of having to deal with unapproved questions.
    Neither did LockDan, who if he hadn’t been riding high on a dose of Figjam & the endorphin rush of dispensing favours (ye may travel 15 miles from home, but only with good reason) would likely have lost his cool.

  221. Mark A

    Did You Know?

    The DeLorean DMC-12, the car best known as the time machine in the Back to the Future movie franchise, was the only model ever produced by its manufacturer, the DeLorean Motor Company.

  222. Cassie of Sydney

    Brendan O’Neill’s tweet that I posted a link to earlier has been deleted……funny that. Here is his piece on the atrocity in France just uploaded onto Spiked.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/10/17/je-suis-samuel/

    Worth reading.

  223. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Does anyone think that dopey guy could puzzle out how to use a hammer?

    Nope. Which is perzactly why he has a black blood nail. He missed. 😀

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