Proving by the absence of a contrary argument why Donald Trump should be re-elected

These independent columnists at The Oz are for the most part a pretty shallow lot when it comes to discussing American politics. There are not one but two anti-Trump articles today. I read all such articles religiously wherever they show up, since I am in an ongoing pursuit of the contra case which has been utterly invisible up until now. There is, of course, no case for Biden, But after four years of his presidency, there must be an anti-Trump case somewhere. But if there is, you won’t find it in The Australian.

This is Peter Van Onselen’s take, who, he writes, “seriously toyed with renouncing his [American] citizenship four years ago when Trump won”. I’ll bet. Just like all the folks who threatened to move to Canada. From what he has written today, he is obviously unable to have learned anything since 2016. Here’s what he has to say four years later: US election 2020: For decency’s sake, Trump must not be returned. Why then is that?

“The damage four more years of Trump would do to American society, its standing in the world, the Republican Party and conservatism as an ideology isn’t worth thinking about…. His mocking of people’s looks, gender, sexual orientation and those with a disability makes him unfit to run a corner shop much less a country…. The cause of conservatives will continue to drift further from what conservatism is supposed to represent: a defence of institutions and respect for process and good governance.

“[There is] his ongoing (near endless) personal abuse of anyone who challenges him. His profound mishandling of the COVID crisis. Despite the way Trump threatens to tear down institutions and denigrate the fourth estate at every opportunity. All the while bringing American democracy into disrepute….

“[There is also] Trump’s flippant attitude towards the dangers COVID-19….

“Trump has never been about anything other than his own aggrandisement. But the way so-called conservative commenta­tors and politicians have abided Trump, even spruiked for him, is much harder to forgive. Doing so exposed how shallow their collective beliefs and ideological understanding really is.

There it is. That’s the case. If anyone can find anything else, they are welcome to add it in. Especially absurd is his telling conservatives what to believe as if he has even an inkling of a notion what conservatism is. How do people like that get paid real money to write such trash?

There is then the equally dense Troy Bramston in his US election 2020: Voters are tired of Trump’s catastrophic presidency. Same challenge, to find anything of substance from one end of the column to the other. Not that there is much effort made to make such a case. The entire article is about polling and how Trump is almost certain to lose which he may well do, in large part because of the full court press all across the media. These are, in full, his reasons why he ought to lose.

Trump has been a catastrophic president….

The most important election issue is COVID-19. Trump’s handling of the pandemic has been disastrous.

Both are an embarrassment to The Australian and to journalism. The Murdoch Press is gung ho in opposing Trump’s re-election. Their columnists have apparently followed the boss’s orders in trying to make the invisible case for voting for Joe Biden instead. What their writings show beyond anything else is that no such case exists because if it did, someone would be able to make it.

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83 Responses to Proving by the absence of a contrary argument why Donald Trump should be re-elected

  1. stackja

    Murdoch famously supported Jimmy Carter. At the time, as I remember, Murdoch was buying something in the USA that needed government approval. Murdoch got what he wanted. Later Murdoch changed his support to Reagan. Why? Why now support for Biden? Many questions.

  2. Ian of Brisbane

    Joe is an honest politician, one you buy him you own him.

  3. H B Bear

    A veritable feast of wrongology from Prof van Wrongselen.

    Just like every weekend. At least Bob Ellis had an excuse. 9 times out of 10 he was pissed.

  4. H B Bear

    Rupe just sniffing the wind, as usual.

  5. Mak Siccar

    You’re a brave man for reading those articles Steve. I saw those pathetic headlines and skipped them. With the Oz subscription now increased to $40 per month, I am now reviewing its worth.

  6. win

    We seem to have forgotten that it was Rupert Murdoch when he owned Hamilton Island who with Keating and an assortment of Labor operatives entertained Tony Blair before he became Prime Minister. Having first cleaned out the resort of paying guests and then installing strict security .No one was allowed on or off the island for 7 days if I remember correctly. Why the secrecy? Blairs gaoling of people like Jeffery Archer reminded me of the FitGerald enquiry where LNPs went to gaol but enough blood was shed when it turned to guilty Labor. Murdoch has never been conservative and neither has the Australian. One Bolt does not a conservative media make.

  7. With the Oz subscription now increased to $40 per month, I am now reviewing its worth.

    The F*ck? $40/month for that sort of crap? That’s worse than the welfare payments everyone has to make to prop up Their ABC.

  8. Bruce of Newcastle

    It’s obvious from what he wrote that PvO only watches and reads the leftwing propaganda press and media. Most of what he wrote is wrong. If he got out of his walled intellectual community and actually looked at the truth of what Trump says and does he would be quite surprised I think. Republican voters approve of what he is doing with an approval rate of about 95%.

    As for tearing down the 4th estate, well son you’ve just proved why that should be done.

    We won’t fire Trump. He fights. If sending him a barrel of whisky would make him fight harder I would do that.

  9. Herodotus

    PVO and Cam Stewart should be too embarrassing for The Oz to trot out so often when they know their subscribers in the main hate them and the support claque is predominantly a bunch of trolls likely paid for by GetUp.

  10. duncanm

    Orange man bad.

    That’s all they’ve got.

  11. Mark M

    Perhaps Kevni Rudd is a fan of good journalism …

    Oct 9, 2020: Petition Launch: #MurdochRoyalCommission
    Australians have watched with growing anger at what the Murdoch media monopoly is doing to our country. A cancer on democracy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BPLBIgKjN8

    … or perhaps this UN sock puppet just kicked an own goal.

  12. miltonf

    Solution is simple- stop giving the legacy media money.

  13. Terry

    Me thinks Perfesser Wrong believes there is much that ‘isn’t worth thinking about’, clearly.

    The ‘fourth estate’ metastasised into a fifth column sometime ago. Progressivism has reached stage IV (it seems to attack the brain first).

    The Chemo needed to treat it might not be pleasant, and you would never give it to a healthy society, but it is absolutely necessary for the times.

    You can blame Chemo all you like, but that isn’t what made you sick. You would be far better off trying to get your hands on some radiation, or some surgery, or getting to work on some other therapeutics to help combat the critical disease (Trump needs allies and support).

    Moreover, giving up the harmful and self-destructive behaviour that initiated the disease in the first place might also be a good idea.

    Unless, of course, your goal is for the patient to die, in which case loudly advocating for the cessation of all effective treatment is exactly what you would expect to hear.

  14. Biota

    The headlines on both columns tell the story without having to read any more. Leftists cannot look past the superficial. They don’t like Trump’s manner so that is that. They would rather a senile, corrupt ‘gentleman’ who will obviously make everything ‘nice’ again, just like the Sun God did. We are in for things going from bad to worse.Here’s hoping there again is a silent majority to get Trump over the line.

    I suspect that will be the case or else why would Barr/Durham not bring their investigations to an early decisive legal conclusion knowing that a Democrat win would be the end of it all. They must be confident that they will be able to continue with it all after the election.

  15. LBLoveday

    I no longer read any of PVO’s work, leaving that drudgery to others, but I look through the comments to confirm that he continues to not be worth reading. I liked this comment, which sums up the effect PVO’s raving will have:

    I am convinced. How about all the Australian voters not vote for him Peter?

  16. Tel

    His mocking of people’s looks, gender, sexual orientation and those with a disability makes him unfit to run a corner shop much less a country….

    If they need to use dishonesty to make an argument, then they don’t have an argument.

    Trump has mocked a lot of people, like “Crooked Hillary” and “Low Energy Jeb” but it had nothing to do with any of the leftist anti-discrimination talking points.

  17. Exit Stage Right

    Steve, I would be extremely worried if van Insolent was cheering on Trump. He has been wrong about everything he has predicted for as long as I can recall. He has put his renowned kiss of death on Biden and the Democrats.
    As for Troy Bramston, what can you expect from a Labor shill?

  18. Delta

    And American Thinker has an excellent summary of Biden the man.

    Can the Democrats Sell their Worst Candidate ever?

  19. Jock

    But but but. Troy loves Joe! Truly. Even though nasty lLevin described Joe as a “NASTY HUMAN BEING WHO LIED HIS WAY INTO POWER”. I think I prefer Levin’s take to Troy’s.

  20. OldOzzie

    Delta
    #3621308, posted on October 17, 2020 at 7:44 am
    And American Thinker has an excellent summary of Biden the man.

    Can the Democrats Sell their Worst Candidate ever?

    Delta,

    thanks a good read that American Thinker Article – after reading today’s

    Joe Biden’s Boosters Wrote His Prodigal Son’s Entire Resume

    By Paul Sperry, RealClearInvestigations
    October 16, 2020

    the above was summed up by

    An Incredible Read – to Quote 1 comment

    If 1/10th of this is true, Joe Biden should step down as the Presidential candidate IMHO.

  21. Terry

    ‘If 1/10th of this is true, Joe Biden should step down as the Presidential candidate’
    If 1/10th of those that intended to vote for him agree, then Joe won’t get a choice in the matter.

  22. Crossie

    “[There is] his ongoing (near endless) personal abuse of anyone who challenges him.

    That would be Biden. Lying dog-faced pony soldier, anyone?

  23. OldOzzie

    Yet again the bleeding obvious question?

    The Computer Service Guy who received the purported Hunter Biden MacBook Pro PC’s for repair should have a record of the Serial Numbers, as should the FBI who now have the PC, and those Serial numbers should show the where purchased, and if the Owners took AppleCare who the Owner is.

  24. Crossie

    The most important election issue is COVID-19. Trump’s handling of the pandemic has been disastrous.

    I think Troy is confusing him with Lockdown Dan.

  25. Crossie

    I think Troy is confusing him with Lockdown Dan.

    Then of course there are Cuomo, Di Blasio, Whitmer and Newsom who are still bedevilling their residents.

  26. H B Bear

    The political coverage in Teh Paywallian – US, Australian, British, Europe is uniformly woeful. Kelly, Shanahan, the Zoe equivalent Cameron Stewart, none of them are worth reading – let alone the Prof and Mavis.

  27. Damon

    Trump handled the corona crisis as well as any other world leader, given they were assured by all the ‘medical experts’ (contrary to evidence and buttressed by the sensationalist media) that we were all gonna die.

  28. Sean

    Biden does the easy things well, which Trump doesn’t
    -speaks in a respectful and politician style
    -shows empathy where it sounds good but doesn’t make much difference.

    Trump does the hard things well, which politicians like Biden don’t:
    -Trade deals
    -drain the swamp
    -take on the corrupt institutions in the USA
    -take on corrupt global institutions
    -say things your not meant to say but everyone is thinking

  29. Bob

    You are 100% correct, they are an embarrassment to journalism (if such a thing is now possible).
    In both cases their arguments boil down to “I don’t like him”, which is childish.
    Blaming Trump for COVID outcomes is as stupid as blaming ScoMo for Victoria’s fiasco.
    The reality is these “journalists” only seek to ingratiate themselves with their own elitist caste, whose groupthink precludes any independent analysis. Their greatest fear is having to sit in the workplace cafeteria ostracised, with their only friend being the last pineapple donut.

  30. cuckoo

    Trump has never been about anything other than his own aggrandisement.

    The african-americans who enjoyed lowest ever levels of unemployment thanks to T’s policies were obviously unavailable for comment.

  31. min

    Reading the article re Biden’s history in politics apart from the plagiarising it seems he is like Two Way Albo plus a terrible memory that is even more in decline.

  32. OldOzzie

    At least one The Australian Article was positive for President TRump

    US election 2020: Why Christians will vote for Donald Trump

    Greg Sheridan

    “They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them, or anti-­immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment, as a way to explain their frustrations.” — then senator ­Barack Obama in 2008

    “If you’re asking whether I take my faith seriously and I’m a faithful Catholic, I am, although I would stress that my personal church ­affiliation or my religious belief would not bear on the discharge of my duties as a judge.” — Amy Coney Barrett in her Senate confirmation hearings to become an appeals judge in 2017

    The vast majority of churchgoing Christians, Protestant and Catholic, and the overwhelming ­majority of Orthodox Jews, will vote for Donald Trump on ­November 3, just as they did four years ago.

    This is surely a paradox. Trump is thrice married and was a self-proclaimed libertine in the past. He sometimes tells lies and is frequently boorish in his personal behaviour, mocking and insulting opponents. And he praises some dictators.

    He has been shabby about keeping his presidency and the ­financial interests of his business empire separate, as well as keeping presidential diplomacy and his domestic political interests separate.

    The ethical case against Trump is substantial, yet the most religiously conscientious and morally scrupulous people will vote for him overwhelmingly.

    Most surveys suggest Trump will win the votes of nearly 90 per cent of Orthodox Jews, though he will lose among Jews overall.

    However, Trump will win the majority of churchgoing Catholics. Among Christians who attend church weekly, Trump will win 60 per cent or more.

    That is a striking figure.

    It suggests an underlying collision of philosophies, of civic and life philosophies, which is tearing America apart.

    The qualified support for Trump by Christians is not irr­ational, illogical or unjustified.

    Part of what voting Christians hope to get from Trump is on display in the Senate confirmation hearings for Barrett’s nomination to the Supreme Court. Barrett is surely admirable. She is a conservative Catholic and has been a longtime member of a charismatic Catholic group.

    Some American Christians do indeed enjoy Trump’s crudity and combativeness and seeing voting for him as a gesture of cultural defiance against the dominant left-liberal ideology. But from reading bits and pieces of many American Christian journals, I think tens of millions of Christians vote for Trump despite his bad character, not remotely because of it.

    The choice in an election is ­binary. Hillary Clinton was herself guilty of misconduct in office, and she and her husband grew personally very rich off the back of notionally philanthropic activities. The same is true of Joe Biden and his family.

    Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, made huge money in Ukraine and China in large part because his dad was vice-president.

    That is not a joyful reflection, but it diminishes the moral choice between Trump and Biden. More important, there is not a single contentious issue on which Biden sticks with the teachings of his own Catholic Church against the dominant zeitgeist.

    But when you examine the ­issues that motivate American Christians, it is not irrational that so many vote Trump. A paradox, yes. A contradiction, no.

  33. Sean

    The african-americans who enjoyed lowest ever levels of unemployment thanks to T’s policies were obviously unavailable for comment

    Saying it’s all about Trump is the clearest sign a journalist has no idea nor ever watched a few of Trumps rallies.

  34. OldOzzie

    At least one The Australian Article was positive for President TRump

    US election 2020: Why Christians will vote for Donald Trump

    Greg Sheridan

    “They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them, or anti-­immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment, as a way to explain their frustrations.” — then senator ­Barack Obama in 2008

    “If you’re asking whether I take my faith seriously and I’m a faithful Catholic, I am, although I would stress that my personal church ­affiliation or my religious belief would not bear on the discharge of my duties as a judge.” — Amy Coney Barrett in her Senate confirmation hearings to become an appeals judge in 2017

    The vast majority of churchgoing Christians, Protestant and Catholic, and the overwhelming ­majority of Orthodox [email protected], will vote for Donald Trump on ­November 3, just as they did four years ago.

    This is surely a paradox. Trump is thrice married and was a self-proclaimed libertine in the past. He sometimes tells lies and is frequently boorish in his personal behaviour, mocking and insulting opponents. And he praises some dictators.

    He has been shabby about keeping his presidency and the ­financial interests of his business empire separate, as well as keeping presidential diplomacy and his domestic political interests separate.

    The ethical case against Trump is substantial, yet the most religiously conscientious and morally scrupulous people will vote for him overwhelmingly.

    Most surveys suggest Trump will win the votes of nearly 90 per cent of Orthodox [email protected], though he will lose among [email protected] overall.

    However, Trump will win the majority of churchgoing Catholics. Among Christians who attend church weekly, Trump will win 60 per cent or more.

    That is a striking figure.

    It suggests an underlying collision of philosophies, of civic and life philosophies, which is tearing America apart.

    The qualified support for Trump by Christians is not irr­ational, illogical or unjustified.

    Part of what voting Christians hope to get from Trump is on display in the Senate confirmation hearings for Barrett’s nomination to the Supreme Court. Barrett is surely admirable. She is a conservative Catholic and has been a longtime member of a charismatic Catholic group.

    Some American Christians do indeed enjoy Trump’s crudity and combativeness and seeing voting for him as a gesture of cultural defiance against the dominant left-liberal ideology. But from reading bits and pieces of many American Christian journals, I think tens of millions of Christians vote for Trump despite his bad character, not remotely because of it.

    The choice in an election is ­binary. Hillary Clinton was herself guilty of misconduct in office, and she and her husband grew personally very rich off the back of notionally philanthropic activities. The same is true of Joe Biden and his family.

    Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, made huge money in Ukraine and China in large part because his dad was vice-president.

    That is not a joyful reflection, but it diminishes the moral choice between Trump and Biden. More important, there is not a single contentious issue on which Biden sticks with the teachings of his own Catholic Church against the dominant zeitgeist.

    But when you examine the ­issues that motivate American Christians, it is not irrational that so many vote Trump. A paradox, yes. A contradiction, no.

  35. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Trump has made some substantial achievements during his Presidency and the US has been thriving in terms of jobs and trade. Trump’s so-called ‘lies’ are often jokes taken out of context or pure media inventions as fake news. The mass media hatred and abuse has been extraordinary, total war on Trump, over the past 4 years, as has been the Democrat refusal to accept his legitimate electoral win. Democrats have hounded him with every false legal case they could invent, all proven now to be nonsense. Now the ‘Trump equals bad’ mantra is all they have got, because they certainly don’t have a decent candidate and policies worthy of a free and entrepreneurial America. On Covid, Trump did all that Fauci required of him and more, producing ventilators, PEP and even a hospital ship in double quick time. Stuff-ups by Democrat Governors were the problem with Covid in the US. What Trump did was lead re this virus. He encouraged Americans to lockdown at first but to look forward to lowering the curve and then slowly re-opening to keep the economy going wherever possible in terms of reduced transmission. He stopped entry of Chinese from Wuhan very early in the pandemic, and got called racist by Biden for doing so. The State Governors politicised this, as Democrats have always done in an attempt to destroy Trump’s policies and actions. See the issues surrounding immigration as a good example of this.

    To understand America you have to see and feel their deep-seated patriotism. I hope Trump wins, even though all institutional cards are stacked against him. America will decline if he loses, nothing is surer than that.

  36. Old School Conservative

    Another of PvO’s reasons for hating President Trump is because that “honourable man” McCain opposed Trump.
    There’s a glaring weakness in PvO’s argument right there.

  37. Mother Lode

    “The damage four more years of Trump would do to American society, its standing in the world, the Republican Party and conservatism as an ideology isn’t worth thinking about…. His mocking of people’s looks, gender, sexual orientation and those with a disability makes him unfit to run a corner shop much less a country…. The cause of conservatives will continue to drift further from what conservatism is supposed to represent: a defence of institutions and respect for process and good governance.

    Another progressive who is telling conservatives what they are supposed to be thinking, that they have a prescriptive doctrine like the left. And am I being unfair there? No, because the left always talk about theirs. And they do it. How would they know what conservatives think? They don’t listen to them, and do everything they can to silence them. Conservatives rebel against unjust institutions, you fathead. America arose from a rebellion against injustice in British rule. The GOP arose to root out the unjust institution of slavery. PvO seems to think conservatives have an unwavering obligation to the status quo, even if they despise it.

    And Trump makes fun of people’s looks? And the progressives don’t mock his. And denigrate his character, heal insults upon his family – even Barron when he were but a nipper a few years ago. And they conspired to not only turf him out of office that he rightfully won to replace him with someone who didn’t. They even hoped to have him put in jail on fabricated evidence.

    But Trump made fun of someone’s looks.

    Perhaps the biggest give away showing what a lightweight PvO is can be seen from ‘disrespecting QWERTY people’. This new fad that has only arisen in the last couple of decades, if that. Yet we are now meant to treat it as if it has been an historical issue, always simmering below the surface. Gay and Lesbian rights go back as far as the 70’s granted. But not demanding quotas, not demanding extra privileges, and far from demanding marriage used to mock it. Trannies, people who identify as cucumbers or are power point curious – this is new. To phrase it perhaps awkwardly, the granularity of those events are comparable to the duration of Presidential terms. It served Obama’s agenda in his war against middle America, and as a manufactured cause for which to abuse Trump. Try to find tranny rights in progressive grievance literature back in the 60’s or 70’s.

    But PvO is too stupid to see this.

  38. OldOzzie

    EXCLUSIVE: 1-On-1 With Rudy Giuliani — What Haven’t We Seen From The Hunter Biden Hard Drive, And Why Won’t He Release It In Full?

    “We can deal with the process all you want, but nobody dealt with the process when they stole Donald Trump’s tax returns and published it without verifying anything, and they don’t even have an unnamed source for it,” he continued. “What’s the difference between that and this? This has three people on the record, now four. It’s a hard drive and text messages. If you read them, it’s almost impossible it’s not Hunter Biden’s.”

    Here are more highlights:

    Though he claimed the information he said he will release in the coming weeks will effectively end Biden’s election chances within 10 days of election day, he would not commit to ever releasing the hard drive in its entirety to be inspected by the media.

    Giuliani says the hard drive originally came into his possession after the Mac Shop owner created four copies to distribute to his friends because he feared for his life. He passed along the original, physical hard drive to the FBI, and finally handed over the copy in Giuliani’s possession to Robert Costello, Giuliani’s attorney, months later. He claims the shop owner attempted to give it to other Republican operatives but no one would take it.

    Giuliani claims the hard drive corroborates a tip he received from a confidential informant about a secret meeting between Hunter Biden and former Deputy Secretary of State Tony Blinken at the State Department that violates the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA). In total, he claims the hard drive includes “six or seven” FARA violations.

    Giuliani claimed that text messages sent by Hunter Biden indicate a “kickback” program where he sent “half of his salary” back to Joe Biden, “which is a Chinese method of corruption.”

  39. John

    Getting a feel for both sides of the story, I think Americans don’t care for logic any more and have made up their minds to vote for Biden, no matter what.

  40. Steve

    Project Veritas does it again….

    Video on the site to watch. This is a “storm warning”…

    Now imagine a group of these already organized, well trained & armed Leftists like this guy, off the leash if Trump wins….

    In the video in the article, it appears to indicate that part of the approach appears to be killing people randomly in the street to create fear….

    https://www.projectveritas.com/news/colorado-dem-operative-kris-jacks-2020-is-a-political-revolution-want-to/

    “Colorado Dem Operative Kris Jacks:

    ‘2020 is a Political Revolution’ … ‘Want To Change This Country With Violence’ … ‘There’s Only One Way To Do It’ … ‘Guillotines, Mother f**ker’ … ‘Killing Random Nazis In The Street’

    “O’Keefe said Project Veritas journalists recorded Jacks with hidden cameras to capture the true nature of his violent political agenda.

    “”Jacks represents the radical wing of the Democratic Party in Colorado–he is someone most Americans should be afraid of,” O’Keefe said.

    “O’Keefe said Project Veritas cameras recorded Jacks talking about justified violence to gain complete political control.

    “Kristopher Jacks:
    “I think the right wing has a monopoly right now on strong, violent rhetoric, and I think they underestimate how many people on the left are organized, trained, armed, and ready to go should they decide to do their sh*t. And I think all it will take is our numbers and a reminder that yeah, there’s a reason you guys feared the Communists more than you feared the Nazis.”

  41. cohenite

    They say this election is a referendum on Trump since the demorats literally have no candidate, joe being terminally senile.

    I think it is more then that: it is a referendum on whether the electorate is stupid and willing to do something at the behest of the msm catastrophically inimical to their best interests. This vote is a test on whether people are sheeple.

  42. duncanm

    OldOzzie
    #3621353, posted on October 17, 2020 at 8:31 am

    Yet again the bleeding obvious question?

    The Computer Service Guy who received the purported Hunter Biden MacBook Pro PC’s for repair should have a record of the Serial Number

    the serial number is on the federal subpoena, readily available.

    eg: here
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/10/14/joe-biden-lied-emails-show-hunter-biden-and-joe-biden-met-together-with-ukraine-energy-executives/comment-page-1/

  43. Rossini

    Bob
    #3621400, posted on October 17, 2020 at 8:58 am
    Blaming Trump for COVID outcomes is as stupid as blaming ScoMo for Victoria’s fiasco.
    Is this why no one in govt wants to accept responsibility

  44. OldOzzie

    duncanm
    #3621469, posted on October 17, 2020 at 9:49 am

    the serial number is on the federal subpoena, readily available.

    eg: here
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/10/14/joe-biden-lied-emails-show-hunter-biden-and-joe-biden-met-together-with-ukraine-energy-executives/comment-page-1/

    duncanm

    Thanks for that – Boy you have good eyes – I have to Zoom in to be able to read – with right eye Ocular Op waiting for 5 months, have gone with Cataract Surgery for deteriorating left eye early November.

    the serial number is on the federal subpoena – had to blow it up to get it, so thanks.

    Why have the authorites and MSM not chased up this Serial Number and the Western Digital Hard Drive Serial Number?

  45. Major Elvis Newton

    Mavis Brampton shredded his credibility with this:

    The bottom line is that Biden passes the character test; bottom line is that Biden passes the character test;

    Delusional deadsh1t.

  46. duncanm

    OldOzzie – look at the image.

    I very much doubt they haven’t been chased up by the FBI and others.. disclosure of what they found, on the other hand.

  47. duncanm

    I can tell you it is a:

    1. MacBook Pro | Core i5 2.3 GHz | 13 Inch | Mid 2017
    Order A1708 (EMC 3164) Year 2017
    Model MPXQ2LL/A Part Mid
    Series MacBook Pro Processor Model Core i5
    Inch 13.3 CPU Frequency 2.3 GHz

  48. OldOzzie

    duncanm
    #3621530, posted on October 17, 2020 at 10:22 am

    OldOzzie – look at the image.

    I very much doubt they haven’t been chased up by the FBI and others.. disclosure of what they found, on the other hand.

    Thanks duncann, I did and have passed onto Journalist Friend

  49. OldOzzie

    duncanm
    #3621533, posted on October 17, 2020 at 10:23 am

    I can tell you it is a:

    1. MacBook Pro | Core i5 2.3 GHz | 13 Inch | Mid 2017
    Order A1708 (EMC 3164) Year 2017
    Model MPXQ2LL/A Part Mid
    Series MacBook Pro Processor Model Core i5
    Inch 13.3 CPU Frequency 2.3 GHz

    Thanks again – also sent to Journalist Friend with Screen Shot of the Find My Mac Page as well

  50. candy

    PvO probably hates Trump’s hairstyle (as those with TDS do), and yet supports Biden who fondles young girls and sniffs their hair.

  51. Major Elvis Newton

    From Troy:

    Biden is an experienced, safe, mainstream candidate for president… He is experienced, having served as vice-president and senator, and is a moderate on policy.

    At last night’s town hall, in responding to a question from the wife of a Democrat politician, Joe Biden told the nation that he thinks 8 year olds should be able to be trans:

    The idea that an 8-year-old child or a 10-year-old child decides, you know decided, I want to be transgender…. I promise you there is no reason to suggest that there should be any right denied your daughter….None, zero.

    That’s not even in the same universe as “moderate” and “mainstream”.

  52. Shane

    No one seems to have picked up on PVO assertion that he has a US citizenship to renounce in the first place.
    Is this some sort of combination of COVID19 mixed with more than a pinch of TDS or is he actually a US citizen. Or maybe one of his accounts was hacked.
    I have always assumed up to now anyway, that POV was a millionaire simply by inheritance, that & his academic background have served to keep him insulated from the harsh real-world lessons that most of us here have waded through to end up here on this page.
    There is no need to comment on the comment on Mavis Brampton’s offspring’s writing.

  53. Nob

    Mother Lode

    How would they know what conservatives think? They don’t listen to them, and do everything they can to silence them

    Good point.

  54. Bones

    The Australian backed Kevin Rudd for PM.

    What could go wrong?

  55. Simon Morgan

    a defence of institutions and respect for process and good governance.

    -Full marks to that moron PVO for at least grasping what conservatism is all about – he might even one day recognize that the description he gives is of a tried and tested system that works.

    Someone should let ScoMo have this description of conservatism – he hasn’t got the faintest idea what it’s about.

  56. Bones

    I would hate to see Greg Sheridan’s critique of his best friend………..10 great points and strengths but

    1. parts his hair on the wrong side.
    2. wears black socks with casual clothes.
    3. wear blue socks with a suit.
    4. doesn’t mow his nature strip.
    5 throught to 8, REPEAT

  57. Cynic of A

    In the entire clip that SK put in from Peter Van Onselen’s diatribe against Trump, there is not one fact!
    There are several imagined facts, and several debunked facts, and several lies of Peter Van Onselen’s, but not one solid piece of evidence that Trump is unfit.
    It’s amazing that these people can write this stuff with absolutely no self awareness of their own stupidity.

  58. Visiting American

    It’s really not hard to make the case against Trump. He’s betrayed the military, abused virtually every standard of behaviour as President, lost US leadership in most important issues including pandemic management and is plainly a fake and a liar. I expect that voters would elect a lamp post in preference to this man.

  59. candy

    I expect that voters would elect a lamp post in preference to this man.

    I would be surprised if they voted the elderly Biden who fondles young girls, but it does indeed look that way, or so the polls indicate.
    Trouble is no, there’s no truth in polling anywhere much. People know who they will vote for, but will not say. Until the actual election day, it’s a mystery.

  60. Kneel

    ” They must be confident that they will be able to continue with it all after the election.”

    Their problem is political – since the AG and other senior DoJ officials are political appointments, bringing out indictments now would be hammered as party political. Just look at the crap about the SCOTUS appointment going on right now!

    So, better to wait until after the election – they still have until Jan. 20th regardless of who wins to indict Biden. While it’s true that Biden would likely be inaugurated prior to any trial starting, it would be even more of a political issue if a Biden DoJ dropped the case, so leaving it is a bit of a poison pill or easter egg for any Biden administration.

    Of course, the Dems may not care anyway, as they always wanted Camel-Ah – they just realise that there’s no way they could sell that far left a position and hope to win, so put up Sleepy Joe on the agreement he will have to “step down” within 12 months or so. Would be amusing to watch what might happen if Biden won, then was so confused that he refused to step down as agreed. Not nice, but amusing to watch from afar.

    Personally, I would not be surprised to see Trump get pretty much everything bar the left coast, NY and DC. If that turns out to be true, the question becomes: will the Dems throw the far left under the bus and become more centre-left in order to win in 2024? That worked well for Hawke/Keating here…

  61. OldOzzie

    Candy

    Joe Biden’s teleprompter in action. He literally cannot speak coherently without it

    https://twitter.com/jacobkschneider/status/1317239122688274433

    vs

    Cool!
    What POTUS sees from AF1 as he arrives to speak to the deplorables.
    That’s High Energy.

    https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1317210354146004995?s=09

  62. Leo G

    It’s really not hard to make the case against Trump. He’s betrayed … abused virtually every standard, … lost US leadership … a fake and a liar. … voters would elect a lamp post in preference.

    The not-hard case looks like nothing but ad hom.

  63. candy

    Joe Biden’s teleprompter in action. He literally cannot speak coherently without it

    OldOzzie, that’s the thing. If he did win, he cannot even speak properly to communicate anything or formulate policies. How many weeks could that last?

  64. OldOzzie

    Candy,

    Pelosi would shaft Hiden Biden ASAP and put Camel Harris in quicksmart

    Pelosi announces bill on 25th Amendment after questioning Trump’s health

    “This is not about President Trump,” Pelosi maintained Friday. “He will face the judgment of the voters. But he shows the need for us to create a process for future presidents.”

    Pelosi denied that the timing of the legislation had anything to do with the election and argued that setting up a commission on presidential capacity is needed to “give some comfort to people” on the stability of the government.

    Trump immediately shot back and said Pelosi’s effort is really to remove a future President Joe Biden.

    “Crazy Nancy Pelosi is looking at the 25th Amendment in order to replace Joe Biden with Kamala Harris,” Trump tweeted. “The Dems want that to happen fast because Sleepy Joe is out of it!!!

  65. Luzu

    I have absolutely no idea but can a teleprompter be hacked? Because that would be one of the funniest things ever. Biden reading out a recipe, dad jokes or receipts from a restaurant meal and being totally unaware of what he is doing. Not that that is much different from what he is doing now or anything…

  66. OldOzzie

    Source on alleged Hunter Biden email chain verifies message about Chinese investment firm

    Sources have told Fox News that ‘the big guy’ is a reference to the former vice president.

  67. Exit Stage Right

    Visiting American @11.32am.
    Hope you don’t intend to stay long. You’ll get torn to shreds on this blog.
    I do agree that a lamp post would be a preferable POTUS to Dodgy Joe.

  68. Silver Sunday

    The shallow words from the “oz” is basically a copy/paste version of “the case against Trump” which appears everywhere words are published. They are also the same exact words a 28 year old, for example, adult child will state at a Family dinner except for the Conservative ideology part. That may be too deep as Mother Lode Mentioned, they haven’t a clue what conservatism even is. They don’t read anything that explains it. And conservatism is not an ideology. It is a philosophy grounded in fundamental universal truths regarding Human Nature.
    I sent a Thomas Sowell book to my grown child 2 years ago called “Discrimination & Disparities“ – which would have come in handy as a source of reality in this insurgency – I had asked her if she read it, and she said no, that she and he were not on the same page. Really? I sent her a single page I typed with his biography. I knew then, much to my despair, there was no way she would read “Liberty or Tyranny“ by Mark Levin.
    And now, with the virus fascism, the mask tyranny, and the fear porn, I have to let it go and pray she will come around at some point in her life. Clearly my input is not wanted, and I have to let it go.

    An example of TDS was on full display last night during The Trump Townhall on mainstream Channel NBC. Savannah Guthrie who dressed in hot pink from head to toe that clashed with the red white and blue set, was completely unhinged, repeating lies that have been proven to be lies, asking The President to denounce white Supremacy and arguing with him as if she was his 15 year old daughter. Why so angry and hostile?
    Because “they” got NOTHING! Nothing but their anger and their own superficial understanding of how the world really works.

    Great Website BTW.
    Thanks from
    Roswell GA USA

  69. Dave of Reedy Creek, Qld

    Scanned the Oz headlines this morning, saw the two anti Trump headlines and didn’t even bother to read one article. leftist junk passed off as journalism. I think the staff must moonlight at their AlpBC!

  70. Faye

    Wrote two comments today in The Australian. The first one repeated below was on Troy Brampston story – Voters sick of this catastrophic presidency.

    We must expect these printed hysterical words now that the U.S. election is only sixteen days away.

    “Catastrophic” President. You bet! The powers that be have coasted along getting their pieces of silver without any interruption whatsoever. Along comes President Trump and blows up their nice littler earners.

    President Trump puts the people of America before anything else and so you see, with the rising of Middle America, the desperate dirty tricks to stop him. The swamp is starting to boil.

    The Australian REJECTED the above.

    The second one was on Greg Sheridan’s, November miracle: Why Christians still back Trump

    Latest news from America. The “boorish” President Trump has performed a “miracle”, a miracle that Christians (and all Americans) are excited about after the awful coronavirus attack from China.

    President Trump has delivered a Super-V recovery, tripling (at 1.9%), the forecasters’ and economists’ guess (0.7&) September retail sales figures.

    To compare, in September 2020 (after COVID-19) consumer spending is 5.4% higher than September 2019 (before COVID-19).

    Naturally, the Democrats and their mates are disappointed. All over the country, heavy vehicles are transporting equipment and goods. The underlying economic activity is explosive.

    Greg, this is President Trump’s tireless work showing results. Your descriptions of the two men are wantonly soft on Biden and unfairly hard on President Trump.

    The Australian has had the above PENDING for over 3 hours now.

  71. Trump betrayed the US military.

    Absolute horsehit.

    They love that fat orange oaf.

  72. The Sheriff

    I heard that van Wrongselen only started writing columns and pretending to be a professor was because his wife was sick of his lazy ass sitting at home all day spending the inheritance.

  73. Mark M

    Et tu, Tom?

    Over at smh Tom Switzer catches something worse than covid -1984 … TDS, and predicts PDT to lose.

    So much winning, not sick of it yet.

  74. EllenG

    Legalise Sedition: no they don’t. You could try searching on military backing Biden. Or you could simply note that trump has closed the military news media ahead of the election. Trump is on the nose. For very many reasons, not least his disdain for serving military who have been injured or killed.
    Trump is not a presidents bum crack.

  75. Kneel

    “…not least his disdain for serving military who have been injured or killed.”

    Really?
    Here is an interview with Ronny Jackson, who for 12 years was a Whitehouse doctor – runs about 50 mins all up.
    His tenure as WH doc covered the Bush 2, Obama, and Trump presidencies.
    He starts with how he got the job (at about 4 min), and then says that Trump asked him to run the Dept. VA (at about 17 mins).
    He says he asked Trump “Why me?” and that Trumps reply was “Because you’d put the veterans needs first”.
    Judge for yourself if you feel he is being straight forward or dissembling – seems straight forward to me. And i would suggest that the fact he withdrew because he felt the veterans were being politicised due to his proposed appointment says to me that Trump was a very good judge of that mans character.

    https://youtu.be/_jj-GAPtXS4

  76. Rob

    That the left both fear and hate Trump is a really good reason to vote for him.

  77. Fang

    Just to have in the either! (Been saying and posting on SM since April 2020!)

    Trump 2020 by 100 million+ votes
    The Western World requires this to happen!

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