There has never been a government with such a high approval-to-incompetence ratio

Guess who that is? And guess what it’s about. The first two minutes should make you sick. Do not watch too much more since it will be bad for your health. Much more dangerous than CV-1984.

So this is where we are with Mr Stupid: Andrews threatens border closures over Kiwi arrivals. There has never been a government with such a high approval-to-incompetence ratio. Bumbling fools comes nowhere near covering it. Twenty-one years of almost continuous Labor Party management have brought community expectations for their governments to the lowest level in history. Did he take even the slightest responsibility? What a question!

Mr Andrews said he had previously told the federal government Victoria was not part of the travel bubble and blamed federal authorities for the arrivals, saying he did not know they were coming and they should have been stopped before they boarded flights to Melbourne.

NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian made it clear her government would not prevent passengers travelling to Victoria, with a spokeswoman saying the issue was a matter for the southern state. Victoria’s borders are not closed to NSW….

Victorian authorities spent much of yesterday trying to track down the travellers, with Mr Andrews conceding the state’s health department had no power to stop passengers, detain them or force them into quarantine if they had arrived from interstate, rather than overseas.

They arrive from places where there are no cases of the Corona Virus, so what’s the problem? And if you want more evidence just how incompetent these people are, try this although there is much much more:

A spokeswoman for the federal Department of Health confirmed Victoria’s chief health officer Brett Sutton was present at a meeting on October 12 when the matter of onwards travel of New Zealanders from Sydney to Melbourne was discussed. Mr Tudge also tweeted that Professor Sutton “did not raise any concerns” in the discussions.

It also emerged Mr Andrews’ own department had given one of the arrivals from NZ the green light two weeks ago to travel onward to Victoria although the advice, from the Department of Premier and Cabinet, was issued before Mr Andrews had officially declared his state was not joining the travel bubble.

The Age has also seen an email from the Premier’s Department, sent on October 12 in response to a query about travel from NZ via Sydney, that clearly advised that Victoria’s borders were open and that the traveller was free to arrive in the southern state.

I can only think Dan is still there because the rest of his cabinet has joined Michael O’Brien (the unknown leader of the Liberal Party) in not wanting to become Premier until the present Victorian mess is limited to the level of “Ongoing Catastrophe” from its present level of “Major Calamity”.

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56 Responses to There has never been a government with such a high approval-to-incompetence ratio

  1. nb

    Odd. The left appears to have embraced incompetence, violence, corruption, authoritarianism, censorship, brazen propaganda, all as badges of honour. The public are yet to catch up. ‘That nice Mr Andrews. The charming smile of Mr Biden and his loverly son. Those courageous pioneers, Mrs Clinton and Mr Obama.’ Hell is other people on the left.

  2. min

    Interesting to note that Sutton has come up with the same excuse Dan used when quizzed in the early days re the use of security guards . I wasn ‘t at the meeting when that was discussed .

  3. duncanm

    Alan Tudge had it right:

    The fact that people cannot recall being in meetings, people cannot recall emails being sent, people cannot recall making decisions, it is just deja vu in relation to the Victorian government. That just seems to be a pattern now of not being able to recall what is going on, not being able to recall being at meetings, not being able to recall sending emails to authorise such activities

  4. Rob

    This is the future – politicians so fearful of losing their privileged positions they’ll do whatever it takes to keep them. It’s easier to be an invisible Opposition Leader or one of those sitting behind him than to pretend you want the truly impossible job of cleaning up the horrible mess that Labor has made of our corroding state of Victoria.

  5. H B Bear

    This is funnier than most ALPBC sitcoms.

  6. John A

    Those courageous pioneers, Mrs Clinton and Mr Obama.

    I read that too quickly as Those contagious pioneers, Mrs Clinton and Mr Obama.

    Then I re-read it.

    But I think I prefer my version better.

  7. Damon

    Sutton’s ‘Professorship’ should be an embarrassment to Monash.

  8. I would love to see from where/who these surveys showing undying love for Chairman Dan are coming. It smells like that of his doppelganger Kim in that other hermit state where it’s decreed that fearless leader has the undying love of his people.

  9. Entropy

    Why are you surprised Bemused?
    In a crisis, government incumbency = high visibility, opposition crowded out to invisibility. It didn’t matter the flavour of government. Watch pony girl get re elected in Qld despite nothing Memorable. For a four year fixed term.

    And then there is JobKeeper which has masked the impact of the lockdown. Some people even like it a lot. They get paid not to work.

    Also Melbourne Syndrome.

  10. Why are you surprised Bemused?

    Because people seem to accept this ‘popularity’ as a fact. Where do these figures come from? The media. Who does the media support? Chairman Dan. One minute people are bagging the media for their false reporting of just about everything, the next they accept as fact something that smells very dubious.

    Consider the protests that have occurred, the arrests of people for simply supporting a protest, businesses opening and owners being arrested, Chairman Dan’s office being graffitied and so on. All of these indicate that people don’t support Chairman Dan and this is just a minority example, what of the silent majority?

  11. Entropy

    There are plenty of fearful people who just want to be kept safe. There is a smallness to them that is quite pitiful.

  12. Peem Birrell

    Really? What about Nicola Sturgeon’s rabble in Scotland?

  13. There are plenty of fearful people who just want to be kept safe. There is a smallness to them that is quite pitiful.

    You really think that way of people? Just consider what happens when some conservative group, or even an individual, protests. The police come out in force with batons and tear gas, and absolute force. When a Leftist group, like BLM, gathers for a protest, the police just stand around and do nothing.

    It’s the conservatives who risk their jobs and more if they go out and protest, the Left generally have nothing to lose, and why would thousands of state and Federal public servants go out and protest? It’s clear that you don’t live here and have therefore no idea what people face.

    That you call them small and pitiful is a sad indictment on anyone that looks upon them in that way.

  14. Boambee John

    Damon
    #3624038, posted on October 19, 2020 at 6:01 am
    Sutton’s ‘Professorship’ should be an embarrassment to Monash.

    Not likely, it is Monash after all!

  15. Spider

    Entropy

    There are plenty of fearful people who just want to be kept safe. There is a smallness to them that is quite pitiful.

    +100

    And that in a nutshell is what happens in societies that are consumed by not just being “safe” but seemingly living without any risk whatsoever. Witness the parent pickup situation outside any major school as an example. It is nuts!!!

    When confronted with relentless news coverage focusing on the minutiae of every possible Covid case on the news each evening along with a solemn roll call of every possible death. It’s seriously taking on the air of a Monty Python sketch “Premier convenes crisis meeting concerned about man coughing in Carlton”.

    As I’ve said previously if every night on the news the prime minister, premiers and state health officers personally opined the loss of the 3000 or so who die from falls each year you’d probably retire to bed and never get up. You’d end up with Gerald 68 of Bondi sadly passed away after he tripped over the cat; Bill 84 of Collingwood fell off a ladder while washing his solar panels or Mary 92 fell over in the shower after dropping the soap.

    Ban the use of ladders for all men over 60 I say.

  16. Googoomuck

    “Entropy #3624063, posted on October 19, 2020 at 7:05 am

    There are plenty of fearful people who just want to be kept safe. There is a smallness to them that is quite pitiful”

    The Melbourne Syndrome is real. We have a friend with some health issues that probably raise her risk, although not to a high degree. She is maintaining the 5km travel bubble despite it being officially lifted. She will not travel the extra 800m or so to visit us because it broke the rules. Yes, she is employed by the government.

    Andrews and Sutton are really pushing how contagious is the virus. They consistently push the message that this virus is unusually deadly. If you can stand to watch Andrews’ press conference, then play Bullshit Bingo. “Safe” and “measured” will be uttered numerous times, as will the phrase “I don’t enjoy this anymore than you do”. The repetition is almost hypnotic. On a side note, I’m glad to be cared for by a State medical officer who appears to know more about dealing with the virus than all the other world experts /sarc.

  17. Mother Lode

    This would be the perfect time to become leader – all the hard work of devising effective policy has already been done everywhere else but the new leader who implements them will seem a saviour and a revolutionary.

    Labor could make the most of it too – putting all the blame on Dan. After a brief period of out of the public eye they will be able to allow him to discreetly take his place on any number of quangos and committees.

    Later when the Libs mention the debacle in Parliament Labor will be able to start remembering the whole affair differently – that the escalation of case numbers was caused by the Liberal govt in Canberra, and Dan did a flawless job but, just when the end was in sight, pressure of the job and endless harping by the Vic Libs and Sky News took their toll.

    The MSM will suddenly remember it that way too.

    And Dan, the man who set up the circumstances for an explosion in cases, handing out contracts to mates, put the state under house arrest, looked on with indifference as pregnant women were arrested for Facebook posts of stopping in a park to catch their breath, and roaming the street in packs descending in numbers on solitary citizens on the wrong side of no statute, let businesses wither and die and their workforces thrown onto welfare, and all of this without any recollection of who made the decisions or when – yes, this Dan will take his place as a luminary in the Labor firmament.

  18. Are my posts are now being blocked?

  19. yarpos

    Dan is a legend

    His people are at meetings where onward flights are discussed
    They do nothing to prepare
    Dan thinks discussing it isnt enough. Why have meetings then?
    Border Force do their job at vet people at the Australian border
    Get criticised by Dan because he thinks they should do something else, that he hasnt previously requested
    Dan sooks because he doesnt get instant gratification for an info request , even though he didnt prepare
    Dan now does what he should have done in the first place and vets domestic arrivals
    Dan points the finger (as always) at everyone else

    Dan is a legend

  20. Bruce

    Political Stockholm Syndrome.

    Coupled with a level of LSM malfeasance on an unprecedented scale.

    And, “Victoria”.

    That about cover it.

  21. Yep, comment being blocked for whatever reason. Perhaps too close to the truth.

  22. min

    How many pressers has Dan done now ? The script remains the same just the numbers altered and no meaningful numbers such as the deaths percentage wise that Cats know as being a more accurate measure of the problem rather than large scary numbers . When analysed what Dan puts out daily is propaganda to make people fearful and cast him as their saviour and it’s always the same. , the next wave will overwhelm us so stay inside , no seeing friends or family , and everyone will be safe .
    Now here is a joke, all comers to my place of residence must have their temperature taken and it is just amazing how many register between 34.1 and 34.4 that I have noticed whilst waiting . I wonder what it means then if someone registered 37

  23. HT

    Spider
    #3624095, posted on October 19, 2020 at 7:34 am
    Entropy

    There are plenty of fearful people who just want to be kept safe. There is a smallness to them that is quite pitiful.

    +100

    Ban the use of ladders for all men over 60 I say.

    There have already been calls to restrict the sale of “long” ladders to “qualified trades”, or to have attended a Cert IV(?) ladder safety course. Long was, I believe, defined as pretty much any extension ladder.

  24. Up The Workers!

    Creepy old Senile Joe Biden from the notorious Biden Crime Family and Deadly Dan the Chi-Com Man (now with 817 notches on his incompetence-gun) evidently get all their polling done by the same crowd of lying incompetents and egregious gillarders.

    If nothing else, Dan’s daily deceit-conferences and awesome incompetence should provide the A.L.P. (Active Leprosy Purveyors) with nearly 1,000 extra votes at the next State election.

    Dan has got his Party nearly 1,000 extra dead-person’s votes – and they have always been the A.L.P.’s most devoted and prolific voters – even if they never once voted Labor(sic) when they were still vertical and breathing.

    Deadly Dan – always “finkin” of the Party!

  25. Mr Tudge also tweeted that Professor Sutton “did not raise any concerns” in the discussions.

    I loathe this grinning buffoon almost as much as Andrews.

  26. NuThink

    min
    #3624156, posted on October 19, 2020 at 8:40 am

    Now here is a joke, all comers to my place of residence must have their temperature taken and it is just amazing how many register between 34.1 and 34.4 that I have noticed whilst waiting . I wonder what it means then if someone registered 37

    min – it surprises me that temperature taken by infra red is the be all and end all – (I am open to correction here) the temperature measuring device has to be compensated for emissivity which will vary depending upon many factors, hence the normal medical ones are used inside the ear where temperature would be more stable and representative of the actual body temperature. I read that the emissivity is set to 95% for the forehead testing cheapies on the web. If you come in out of the cold the forehead will also very cold, so how does sweat and skin tone and makeup affect the temperature reading.
    https://www.fluke.com/en-au/learn/blog/temperature/how-to-get-great-results-with-an-infrared-thermometer

  27. the sting

    Andrews , at his daily death conference , where he claims he wants accuracy from ” journalists” , uses accuracy to deflect the truth .

  28. NuThink

    Powertarians do not like to be deprived of their daily 15 minutes of power.

  29. Anne

    It’s testament to what fluoride in the water and television programming can do.

    https://twitter.com/8_27j/status/1317090200208670720?s=21

  30. Robbo

    Victoria is being ruined by an incompetent, devious liar and his stupidity seemingly has no end. If Voters in Victoria have any kind of memory they will decimate the Labor Party at the next State election.

  31. Given that it’s nearly two hours since my post was blocked, containing nothing offensive but pointing out the bleeding obvious, is Catallaxy now following the Marxist philosophy of approved think only?

  32. H B Bear

    More tin foil for bemused please Snic.

  33. More tin foil for bemused please Snic.

    Then why is a specific post, even when modified, not permitted to get through? Who or what is preventing me from making a reasonable post?

  34. min

    NuThink yes that is all plus name etc recorded . Doctor son , when he was allowed in, remarked that he must be a zombie with such a low temp. We are on the safe side of Melbourne and given the 5 kg limit that has probably protected us however observing mask use in the area I would not think these help .For those not from Melbourne or do not read the cluster info it appears that majority of cases and deaths have occurred in certain areas that would have a lot in common with the area where numbers have increased lately .

  35. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Victorian authorities spent much of yesterday trying to track down the travellers, with Mr Andrews conceding the state’s health department had no power to stop passengers, detain them or force them into quarantine if they had arrived from interstate, rather than overseas

    So we’ve all be operating under a misapprehension here? No state government has the power to make a resident from another state, upon arrival, enter quarantine, or presumably self-isolate etc?

  36. Anne

    Interesting side-bar:

    The geographical location of Victoria is Lord Howe Island.

  37. Roger

    So we’ve all be operating under a misapprehension here? No state government has the power to make a resident from another state, upon arrival, enter quarantine, or presumably self-isolate etc?

    Qld’s Public Health Act grants extaordinary powers to the CHO during a health emergency, including the power to order general quarantine measures for people entering the state and to order the detention of particular individuals. Penalties of up to six months imprisonment apply to recalcitrants.

  38. cuckoo

    Witness the parent pickup situation outside any major school as an example. It is nuts!!!

    Absolutely. I was once looking at a set of photos of 1960s Melbourne suburban high school buildings and what hit me were the seemingly endless bike racks. For all the kids who rode their bikes to school.

  39. cuckoo

    If you can stand to watch Andrews’ press conference, then play Bullshit Bingo.

    And score 10 points every time he says indignantly that he hasn’t seen his mother since Christmas. (lucky woman.)

  40. stackja

    cuckoo – I believe too dangerous for bicycles on the roads now. And too many strange people left to roam the streets.

  41. cuckoo

    Finally the lion roars. Melbourne Archbishop Peter Comensoli tweets:

    Deeply shocked at the disparity imposed on VIC’s faith communities today. Public Health stubbornly silent on reason why. Rest of OZ is doing it right. Why not us? Life, family & faith matter.

    THAT oughta make ‘devout Catholic’ Daniel Andrews sit up and take notice. (/sarc)

  42. Roger

    Life, family & faith matter.

    Not to Communists.

    Time for some civil disobedience, Your Grace.

  43. Fair Shake

    Information to Press Conference Ratio <0.0001 to 1
    Memory recall to Accountability Ratio <0.0001 to 1
    Lecturing to Press Conference Ratio 100 to 1
    Narcissism to Premier Ratio 1.1 to 1

  44. John A

    Anne #3624234, posted on October 19, 2020, at 9:34 am

    It’s testament to what fluoride in the water and television programming can do.

    https://twitter.com/8_27j/status/1317090200208670720?s=21

    Very clear.

    Now I know why I don’t watch TV – fluoride has hardened the programming, right?

  45. min

    Government website fully supported travellers from NZ as shown on Michael Smith News So what is Dan going on about?

  46. Patty Duke

    Government website fully supported travellers from NZ as shown on Michael Smith News So what is Dan going on about?

    Poor old Danny boy thought he had something on the Feds and starting blasting off at the at the presser yesterday until a journalist pointed out that the new Zealanders had entered both the country and Vic legally.
    His blustering was a delight to see. Now more evidence comes out that Sutton said it was ok for them to come and there was actually a meeting where it was discussed. It also states it on the DHHS website.

    Honestly, you couldn’t make this stuff up. Their incompetence is beyond belief.

  47. Professor Fred Lenin

    Get that jacket off Andrews they are for workers not wankers , people who work outdoors .

  48. Greg J

    As a very long suffering conservative Victorian voter, I do not know what to say about the Andrews’ government. It is a disgraceful conglomerate of the Useless and Stupid Beauracratic Class, but what can be said about it? The Victorian electorate voted it in at the last election.

    It probably wouldn’t be so bad if we actually had a proper Opposition, but they have been absolutely useless during this very bad time, and as for O’Brien, he is beyond pathetic. He is so grotesquelly pathetic that I cannot stomach to even see the pathetic wet lettuce on any television channel. He – and his Liberal predecessors – are the very reason we now have an incompetent fool like Andrews as the Premier.

  49. The Sheriff

    cuckoo
    #3624346, posted on October 19, 2020 at 11:06 am
    Finally the lion roars. Melbourne Archbishop Peter Comensoli tweets:

    Deeply shocked at the disparity imposed on VIC’s faith communities today. Public Health stubbornly silent on reason why. Rest of OZ is doing it right. Why not us? Life, family & faith matter.

    THAT oughta make ‘devout Catholic’ Daniel Andrews sit up and take notice. (/sarc)

    it’s hard to feel sympathy when Archbishop Comensoli is so cuck that he won’t even refuse communion to Dictator Dan, being the Minister responsible for the world’s worst abortion free-for-all, euthanasia, prohibiting public prayer, and treating abortion abbatoirs as sacred whilst letting vandals destroy churches.

  50. Squirrel

    “There has never been a government with such a high approval-to-incompetence ratio”

    Yes, although there is pretty hot competition for that title – incompetent NT government re-elected a few weeks ago, incompetent ACT government re-elected on the weekend, incompetent Qld government likely to be re-elected shortly (and let’s not forget what happened in NZ).

  51. Romano DelBeato

    Er, should that be “such a high approval to competence ratio”? Approval is high but competence is low, so their ratio is large. The ratio “approval to incompetence” would be close to one/parity. OK I’m nit-picking, but I’m a maths nut.

  52. Megan

    Witness the parent pickup situation outside any major school as an example. It is nuts!!!

    Absolutely. I was once looking at a set of photos of 1960s Melbourne suburban high school buildings and what hit me were the seemingly endless bike racks. For all the kids who rode their bikes to school.

    And the vast sea of uniformed students heading home on foot or by public transport. Not a parent to be seen. How the hell did we get here?

  53. yarpos

    Too true Megan , there was no expectation that anyone got us home but us.

    My commute was bus, train and walk or in good weather cycle across umpteen suburbs

    Then later in life we became school chauffeurs

  54. Drew

    The Liberal Party in Victoria needs to think of how they can attarct more members and voters…..

    Fact is that apart from the Kennett blip, Victoria is looking long term Labor for 40 years….

    Why? Many Liberal members (those who have not been squeezed out by god botherers and/or oldies and/or young fogeys) and voters, still approve of Kennett, but not the direction of the national LNP since Howard i.e. seemingly more atune to happenings in the US GOP and the UK Tories whom are outliers.

    Claiming libertarian values on economics but pure conservative Christianity for social issues is a pathway to eternal electoral losses, even with most media supporting the LNP, but the demographic base of the above median age vote will no doubt start tracking the more diverse below median age vote…… back to the centre and away from the divisive US political culture.

    Solution of many, short of voting Labor in Vic, is starting a rival party of the centre.

  55. a reader

    Anne is certainly a unique individual…

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