Monday Forum: October 19, 2020

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  1. P

    A dog had his chain reduced
    one link at a time,
    every few days,
    until his chain was so short
    he could barely move.
    He never resisted
    because he was conditioned
    to the loss of his freedom
    slowly, over time.
    It’s happening to
    Aussies.

  2. incoherent rambler

    As police helicopters and drones prepare for lift-off over Melbourne …

    I’m doing my part.

    I have 20 blowup dolls on deck chairs in the backyard.
    Will I get a visit from vikplod?

  3. dover_beach

    The next two weeks are going to be terrible for monty. Just terrible.

  4. thefrollickingmole

    obviously planted Russian propaganda about a global rock spider cabal

    Wussia, one day you will catch that wascally wabbit, the main Russian connection so far has been the ex-Russian agent used as a source by the firm ‘Illary paid to rustle up the smear file on trump.

    Epstein, you may want to peruse some of the publicly available flight manifests, the ones that mention Bill Clinton among others who flew to loli island.

    Sad.
    Desperate.
    Crispy Kreme energy

  5. Geriatric Mayfly

    Someone noted that the ABC’s Ferguson womyn (aka Mrs Jones) has hightailed it to the US. In the pipepline then, another 6 part exposé of Russian skullduggery in US elections and the slander of a good man. As if her Impeachment fiasco wasn’t a sufficient disgrace to have her mothballed.

  6. cohenite

    There’s no sign that Pence is keeping Don’s off script rants in check. That’s a real shame as Trump’s instincts in areas of negotiation and economic stimulus are good but he kills the shy voter with bombast.

    The left do and say what they want; and along comes Trump who instead of wilting like previous conservatives and pretending there is a set of rules and a gentleman’s framework calls out the left for what they are; and still we get this bullshit that Trump must be fucking temperate. I’ll tell you what I want during this final debate: Trump to go over and smash joe in the gob and then go down and get the mute button held by the skank moderator and crush it under his foot. I’ve wanted a conservative to do that ever since Abbott squibbed smashing that prick mark riley.

  7. LOL, M0nty. Yep the Wussians wrote 40,000 fake emails which just happened to’ve been confirmed as legit by two of Hunter’s colleagues/staff. Then they faked all the photos and videos.

    No, what they do is they hack someone’s stuff and then plant fakes in amongst the real material. It’s particularly hard to tell given all we have to go on are screenshots – that precludes any investigation into the source material. Basically you can’t believe anything released by Giuliani or Bannon.

  8. thefrollickingmole

    2020, is there no end to the destruction and perversion it will bring?

    Alcohol-free Guinness set to hit shelves in Britain and Ireland

  9. stackja

    dover_beach
    #3629468, posted on October 23, 2020 at 10:30 am

    23 October 1956 Students in Budapest, Hungary, begin a protest march that ends up as a revolution.

    Joe Biden? At school?

  10. Mater

    I’m wondering in what scenario you think Trump yelling about obviously planted Russian propaganda about a global rock spider cabal will convince anyone other than Q freaks.

    Just a reminder, Monty:

    https://catallaxyfiles.com/2019/08/21/pell-discussion-forum-august-21-2019/comment-page-1/#comment-3136959

  11. Arky

    Fauci isn’t non political but attacking him

    ..
    You’re just accepting the narrative that he “attacked” Fauci.
    He didn’t “attack” him.
    He pointed out that the advice given had changed.
    It did.
    And in what way does praising Fauci as a good man and pointing out the advice had changed constitute a character flaw?
    Honesty is a character flaw?
    Keeping a bloke who you have disagreement with in his position so you can hear advice contrary to your own instincts is a character flaw?

  12. OldOzzie

    Ad – “Weekend at the Bidens” – 1 Min 8 Secs – sums it up perfectly

    Liam Donovan
    @LPDonovan
    In a cycle that has been pretty bleak for creative, this
    @NoToJoePAC
    spot is a clever way to get at Biden’s biggest weakness. Tricky hit to pull off, but the playful tone takes off the edge.

  13. thefrollickingmole

    OldOzzie

    I like the hair sniff slumping, a nice touch

  14. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Pence was 1st class, 60 minutes is archaic & fake news

  15. Arky

    Pence was 1st class,

    ..
    Pence is a snooze fest.

  16. Infidel Tiger

    Conversation

    B. Scott
    @lovebscott
    ·
    6h
    Waka Flocka Flame Thinks Trump Is Better President Than Obama [Photos + Video]

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ATMBigDawgEv/status/1319338556301676544

    It’s happening.

  17. Roger

    Someone noted that the ABC’s Ferguson womyn (aka Mrs Jones) has hightailed it to the US.

    So has Michael Rowland.

    And that’s in addition to the correspondents already there.

    And theyll all be singing from the same hymn sheet.

    In light of theri cries of “budget cuts”, how is this justified?

    And how is it going down among the serfs at the ABC?

    We know that not all are equal in the collective.

  18. cohenite

    Monty taking copious amounts of piss: the russians did plastic surgery to create a hunter lookalike and then inserted fake pedo photos on hunter’s laptop and fake emails confirmed by other plastic surgery fake business partners of hunter. Why aren’t the russkies ruling the world, they’re fucking amazing!

  19. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    monty put your money where your mouth is, I have $10k on Trump, put $10k on biden or stfu

  20. OldOzzie

    I’M WITH HER

    Washington Examiner reporter Susan Ferrechio had a throwdown with CNN’s Brian Stelter over the authenticity of Hunter Biden’s emails. The throwdown occurred on this episode of BBC’s Media Show. Ferrechio contrasted the media’s avoidance of the saga of Hunter Biden with its hot embrace of the Russia hoax foisted on the Trump campaign and presidency. It’s not possible to do justice to the disgrace of CNN, but the audio clip is gratifying. ( 1 Min 4 Secs) Stelter is stultifying.

    I’m with her.

  21. Roger

    Pence was 1st class,

    ..
    Pence is a snooze fest.

    His calm demeanour makes him the perfect foil for Trump.

  22. dover_beach

    Smug:

    Bobulinski nuked Joe Biden from orbit.

    I wonder if the ABC will report this.

  23. OldOzzie

    thefrollickingmole
    #3629490, posted on October 23, 2020 at 10:44 am
    OldOzzie

    I like the hair sniff slumping, a nice touch

    Heh – Both in the Limo and the Reception

  24. dover_beach

    ABC fact check:
    As far as we can tell, Biden has not been ‘nuked’ from orbit.

  25. Farmer Gez

    Sounds alright Cohenite and I’d agree but that’s the testosterone speaking. Over half the electorate are women and while they play dirty, they don’t generally like to see it in a leader.

    It’s hard for me to think a wonderful woman like Amy Coney Barrett marks down a vote for Trump with anything near enthusiasm she’d have for Pence.

  26. I watched the Bobulinski presser, where’s the beef? No crime alleged. Low energy, sad!

    If Trump thinks that nailing Biden on nepotism and corporate governance is a vote winner in the wake of Trump U and the Trump Foundation both being entirely fraudulent, plus Ivanka making a killing in Chinese trademarks and Jared getting bailed out for hundreds of millions by Qatari banks, he’s going to have a bad time.

  27. OldOzzie

    MY NEW HERO: KEMI BADENOCH</strong>

    I did not know that the UK government has an official “Equalities Minister,” and that name sounds perfectly sinister and Orwellian. Regardless of whether such a ministry is a good idea, right now the Equalities Minister in Boris Johnson’s government is Kemi Badenoch, and this attack on “critical race theory” is so good that I want to amend the Constitution so she can come to the United States and run for President. Move over Candace Owens! Take in these two minutes of sound thinking

  28. Oh come on

    Macquarie Bank has released a strategy note overnight predicting a Democrat clean sweep.
    Very silly.

    Not if they’re privately short on Biden

  29. Oh come on

    m0nty, serious question: are you mentally prepared for the possibility that Trump may win again?

  30. areff

    I wonder if the ABC will report this

    No, they’ll craft more symphonies of omission like this, just posted:

    Joe Biden and Hunter Biden have been accused of corruption, but there’s good reason to be sceptical

    A travesty even by the ABC’s non-existent standards.

  31. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    arky, hows the achilles tendon?

  32. Infidel Tiger

    Fox having that old fraud Karl Rove on is pathetic.

  33. m0nty, serious question: are you mentally prepared for the possibility that Trump may win again?

    Sure. It happened once, it could happen again.

    Are you ready for the end of the Trump era, OCO? All your dreams dashed in a massive electoral beatdown? That’s far more likely.

  34. Arky

    arky, hows the achilles tendon?

    ..
    Dunno.
    Haven’t done any running since October 2019.
    I went from running approximately 15 Km a day to not being able to walk slowly to the end of the block without being seriously out of breath.
    If it wasn’t Covid it was something else unleashed from China.
    I am slowly building back up by walking.
    Currently at 6 Km a day walking and adding 1 km to the daily target every week.
    Once I get under 95 Kg I’ll start running again and the tendons will get tested.

  35. dover_beach

    areff, I posted that above.

  36. Arnost

    This is why pre-election voting must be made illegal.

    With ID.

  37. dover_beach

    monty is telling us Biden lying about his pay for influence as VP is no biggie. Five Pinocchios.

  38. miltonf

    Sounds alright Cohenite and I’d agree but that’s the testosterone speaking. Over half the electorate are women and while they play dirty, they don’t generally like to see it in a leader.

    We need a fighter. Some women actually like masculine men.

  39. Umm, the Australian Army brought the Carl Gustav – the Swedes refused to supply ammunition because they would have been used in the “Fun Factory.”

    And Army Aviation bought the Pilatus Porter.
    The Swiss were never comfortable with its use in Vietnam. When imported, they all arrived in Swiss markings so as to avoid undue attention on the way. The Swiss Government put an embargo on the last Porter ordered when they became aware of how they were being used.
    I can remember them flying in circles, just out of small arms range, broadcasting surrender messages to the VC over a ghostly music background. We began to suspect that God was female and spoke Vietnamese.
    One was shot down on 3rd December 1969, not far from the end of Luscombe strip, killing Barry Donald and Alan Jellie.

  40. FMD. From the Hun, Dan Tehan is a flog.

    ‘The latest round of almost $12m worth of taxpayer grants to academics has come under fire for promoting an unpatriotic, “distorted” view of our history and culture.
    Announcing the Australian Research Council’s list of projects federal education minister Dan Tehan promised the money would “enhance” our historical understanding of Australia.
    But free market think tank the Institute of Public affairs said many of the projects were not in the national interest and pushed a narrative that the institutions and values of western civilisation had been “responsible for all the evils past present and future”.
    “If you were to use these projects to paint a picture of Australian society, culture and history, the image that emerges is extremely grim,” IPA foundations of western civilisation program director Bella d’Abrera said.
    “The focus on Australia’s history is that the modern state of Australia was brought in into existence by violence, dispossession and colonial oppression, while modern society and culture is characterised by social inequality, crisis and conflict.
    The grants include Griffith University being given $299,108 “to explore the role living heritage sites play in resisting or reinforcing cultural injustices faced by colonial subjects.” Ms d’Abrera said the academics were responsible for shaping the national narrative.’

  41. miltonf

    Let’s see who hates Trump- big business, big media, Chilla, the EU. Means he must be good.

  42. Tom

    I watched the Bobulinski presser, where’s the beef? No crime alleged. Low energy, sad!

    Monty, are you working for Putin? Who’s paying you to run interference for the corrupt American ruling class in Australia?

    Have you voted yet?

  43. Arnost

    Monty, are you working for Putin?

    Nah … Xi Jinping more like it.

  44. miltonf

    BB Tehan is just another ‘scion’ of a political dynasty. I thought Australia wasn’t meant to have a bunyip aristocracy. Consider also Hunt, Downer.

  45. Oh come on

    Opinion polling carried out over the last decade – maybe longer – has consistently shown that, out of all of the institutions in Australia, the UK and the US, the public trusts the media the least. Journalists are held in lower regard than politicians. That being said, I think the majority of people tend to regard journos as biased and out of touch.

    However, there was always going to be a newsworthy item that made a critical mass of the population realise that the distorted news coverage we see today is more than a case of pinko journos letting their ideology get in the way of their objectivity – it’s far more malevolent than that. A story will come along demonstrating to a critical mass of the population that the corporate media has an agenda that has nothing to do with serving the public interest and that its core function now is to further its agenda by promulgating lies and deceit dressed up as The News.

    I think the Hunter Biden laptop story may be that story; that tipping point.

  46. areff

    Always last with the latest, Dover. It’s quite the piece of work, eh.

  47. Oh come on

    Are you ready for the end of the Trump era, OCO? All your dreams dashed in a massive electoral beatdown? That’s far more likely.

    If Trump loses fair and square, I’ll say see ya next time. As you should have done in 2016.

  48. rickw

    Over at the terminal grabbing a coffee. The little men of the AFP are now patrolling the terminal with M4’s in single point harnesses with hand on the grip.

    Fucking totalitarian wankers. Start firing an M4 in an airport terminal building, how many bystanders are you going to kill you fucking idiots?

  49. Natural Instinct

    Thank our gracious leaders for small mercies….
    .

    REMEMBRANCE DAY SERVICES
    .
    Groups of up to 100 people will be able to gather for Remembrance Day services in the South Coast electorate after the approval of a one-off exemption from COVID-19 restrictions.
    .
    Day is a major event for both veterans and the broader community to pay their respects to those who made the ultimate sacrifice for our country
    .
    The easing of restrictions to public gatherings for Remembrance Day means wreath laying ceremonies and other memorial services can take place with up to 100 people present, to pay their respects to those who made the ultimate sacrifice.
    .
    The one-off exemption to the Public Health Order increases the current restrictions from 20 people to 100 people, to gather at community war memorials, provided they adhere to social distancing measures and have a COVID-19 Safety Plan in place.
    .
    Acting Minister for Veterans Geoff Lee said while some of our larger commemorations won’t look the same as in past years, this exemption means smaller services can be held in all local communities across NSW.
    .
    “Australians have paused to reflect and pay tribute on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month since 1918, so this is welcome news for our veteran community,” said Mr Lee.
    .
    The exemption is in place for Remembrance Day Services held before 12 November.
    .
    RSL NSW Acting President Ray James OAM thanked the NSW Government for lifting the restrictions to ensure services could go ahead safely.
    .
    “With this year’s Anzac Day commemorations cancelled due to the pandemic, it is particularly meaningful for the veteran community to see Remembrance Day gatherings taking place,” Mr James said.
    .
    “Local Remembrance Day services have a significant role in regional and rural communities where the incidence of COVID-19 has been low in recent months.”

  50. Oh come on

    Heh. Poor old Drudge is coping about as well as m0nty is at the moment.

  51. Oh come on

    m0nty, you sure aren’t behaving like someone confident of victory. You seem crazed, terrified, ranty.

  52. woolfe

    Black Ball,
    And all that money won’t stop one Annaliesse. Poor poor child.

  53. dover_beach

    Always last with the latest, Dover. It’s quite the piece of work, eh.

    Last with the latest means you’re the most up-to-date! It’s a travesty. No mention of China and ‘the big man’. No mention of the subpoena issued yesterday for the laptop/ hard drive. No mention of Bobilinski’s corroboration of the emails.

  54. Dr Faustus

    Over at the terminal grabbing a coffee. The little men of the AFP are now patrolling the terminal with M4’s in single point harnesses with hand on the grip.

    Concerned about the airport security contractors going off-reservation?

  55. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    NSW Premier’s secret boyfriend Daryl Maguire ‘had key to her home’, Parliament hears

    for goodness sakes! what next? spent condoms presented as evidence?

  56. Snoopy

    Someone noted that the ABC’s Ferguson womyn (aka Mrs Jones) has hightailed it to the US.

    So has Michael Rowland.

    No travel to the US for the plebs who pony up for their dross.

    But we’ll get to see Michael Rowland’s mascara running so that will be some compensation.

  57. Roger

    Dan Tehan is a flog.

    Behold, a minister completely at rest in the hands of his departmental minders.

    Too lazy to do the hard work himself and develop his own opinion based on sound principles, even if he were capable of it.

  58. gafa

    ‘Raelene Castle returns permanently to NZ’

    Well past the time the unchecked one way flow of goblins from New Zealand were prevented from escaping across the pond willy-nilly to sponge off Oz, just cause they’ve screwed up their own habitat only to then mess up ours.
    Maybe then they might take their elections a bit more seriously, like Queensland does.

  59. thefrollickingmole

    tick tock…. Monty..

    This one Id be maintaining some skepticism over though, the bloke could easily be a grifter.

    EXCLUSIVE: A list of “key domestic contacts” for a joint venture involving Jim and Hunter Biden and now-bankrupt CEFC China Energy Co. included former Vice President Joe Biden’s current running mate Sen. Kamala Harris, among other prominent Democrats, Fox News has learned.

    An email exclusively obtained by Fox News, with the subject line “Phase one domestic contacts/ projects” and dated May 15, 2017, Biden’s brother, Jim Biden, shared a list of “key domestic contacts for phase one target projects.”

    The email is unrelated to the laptop or hard drive purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden, the former vice president’s son.

    The list, included Harris, D-Calif.; Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.; Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn.; Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y.; New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo; New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio; former Virginia Gov. Terry McCauliffe, among others.

    It is unclear if any of the Democrats were ever contacted about the “target projects.”

    The email was sent from Jim to Hunter Biden, Tony Bobulinski, Rob Walker and James Gilliar.

    Bobulinksi was an institutional investor who was recruited by the Biden family to run their joint-venture with now-bankrupt CEFC China Energy Co.

    https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/10/2017-05-15-12.56-Phase-one-domestic-contacts_projects-Memo-re-key-phase-one-domestic-contacts.pdf

  60. miltonf

    Dan Tehan is a flog.

    Behold, a minister completely at rest in the hands of his departmental minders.

    Too lazy to do the hard work himself and develop his own opinion based on sound principles, even if he were capable of it.

    A perfect illustration of a very common problem. I can never forget his condescension when he was going to make uni courses cheaper so the unemployed would waste their enforced idleness watching netflix.

  61. min

    If Daryl had a key how come that no one knew anything for years . Very hard for someone in the limelight to not be seen , crept in when the neighbours were not looking. Defies logic.

  62. Geriatric Mayfly

    No travel to the US for the plebs who pony up for their dross.

    Under the impression that seating is highly restricted, and to posit bum thereon requires significant outlay.
    Cab charge to the ABC.

  63. Infidel Tiger

    Kyle Smith
    @rkylesmith
    ·
    21m
    It’ll be funny when all the questions tonight are about climate change and white supremacy again because you gotta play the oldies

    This debate is going to be a shitshow of Dems running defence for a nasty old crook.

  64. Rex Anger

    Are you ready for the end of the Trump era, OCO? All your dreams dashed in a massive electoral beatdown? That’s far more likely.

    Only more likely post-2032, when the Biden campaign is ready to win, Mike Pence/Trump Jr/Dan Crenshaw are up for their second term, Tulsi has swapped parties or become VP to bipartisan acclaim, and the US of A is finally tired of all that winning.

    Or, as an even more likely thing, you choose to make a radica life transformation such that you make the cover of Men’s Fitness with the tagline If Even I Can, Why Can’t You?

  65. Delta A

    A story will come along demonstrating to a critical mass of the population that the corporate media has an agenda that has nothing to do with serving the public interest and that its core function now is to further its agenda by promulgating lies and deceit dressed up as The News.

    OCO is correct.

    I saw this first hand when my rabidly-left son (44 yo) realized that the media had suppressed reports of the 1916 new year assaults on women by RoP men in Cologne. Having prided himself on his political smarts and general savviness, he saw that censorship as betrayal of left ideology.

    He is now proud to be a curmudgeonly old conservative.

    Let’s hope this story facilitates similar epiphanies.

  66. Arky

    Trump is going to push the corrupt Biden family issue and isn’t in the mood to accept the media’s premises.
    There is no indication that the media understands how badly their open barracking for one side drives people the other way.
    They aren’t that smart.
    Trump has now honed his responses to the covid gotchas.

  67. Arnost

    Kim Dotcom poked the Twitter critter up the jacksie. It looks like he is silenced.

    https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1319390781023473664?s=20

  68. Eyrie

    Buying Eurotrash is never a good idea. We have 15 EC-135 helos as trainers and a bunch of Pilatus PC-21 trainers for the RAAF.
    Both would be useful in certain situations if painted green and armed but the contract prohibits that.

  69. Eyrie

    I’ve always had the impression Matthias was sent here to be an EU agent of influence. He’s now going home to retire into a sinecure.

  70. Oh come on

    OCO is correct.

    Naturally 😜

  71. Rex Anger

    Over at the terminal grabbing a coffee. The little men of the AFP are now patrolling the terminal with M4’s in single point harnesses with hand on the grip.

    Slung? And with only one hand? Unprofessional!

    I used to get ripped for not having both hands on my weapon (or having it slung) at all times unless I was carrying something.

    A baseline and unblinged M4 or AR-15 equivalent is less han 4kg. Even when loaded. A Steyr topped out around 5.

    Even wymminses troopies could carry a Steyr comfortably in both hands out field. Wth an addtional 5-10kg of loadbearing kit. And 20kg of body armor.

    I tell you, standards are slipping. And I thought the Fedpol were the more professional police in this country…

  72. Arky

    I used to get ripped for not having both hands on my weapon

    ..
    Different branch of government.
    Pretty sure you need to have it slung while eating donuts and scratching your arse.

  73. Bruce of Newcastle

    I have 20 blowup dolls on deck chairs in the backyard.

    Are they Democrats?

    ‘Pathetic’ cardboard cutout stunt by Senate Dems fails to stop Amy Coney Barrett nomination from moving forward (22 Oct)

    Rather than show up and do their jobs, Senate Dems on the Judiciary Committee boycotted today’s vote on Amy Coney Barrett and instead placed cardboard cutouts of people “benefitting from the Affordable Care Act” instead

    Most people might suggest replacing Dem representatives in Congress with cardboard cutouts would be an improvement.

    (And apology to Cardi, his ones are excellent since no one can be in four places at once. 😀 )

  74. mh

    Cormann is an economic girly man.

  75. Dr Faustus

    The Left in agonies to point out there’s ‘nothing new’ in the laptop revelations – and anyway, it’s a beltway issue that nobody will be interested in, or smart enough to follow.

    So far that’s certainly truish.

    – H Biden confirmed as a degenerate bagman;
    – J Biden further implicated as either recipient of corrupt gain, or so pitifully out of touch with what was going on around him that he shouldn’t be allowed out alone.

    But none of the detail matters much. The narrative is set for reluctant GOP’ers and undecideds:

    Biden = compromised;
    FBI and the Deep State = doesn’t disagree;
    Big Media = in the tank;
    Flippers coming thick and fast.

    That’s all; no need for nuance.

  76. Rex Anger

    @ Eyrie-

    Fairly sure the EC135s haven’t a violent bone in their DNA. Just a civvy utility bird painted black with roundels.

    The PC-21 does have a light attack capability, and even the PC-9 was used as a JTAC/FAC bird by 4 SQN.

    I agree that the EMBRAER Super Tucano might have been the better choice (being both trainer and muscular warbird in its own right), but the ADF is somewhat ‘brand conscious’ in its choice of equipment. The PC-9s did OK for 30+ years, so why not stick with it and get the new model?

    Worst comes to worst, we buy a licence, build them here and load them up with gun pods, rocket pods and smoke bomb dispensers for when SHTF and the F35s cannot hang about long enough to chase the squirters…

  77. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘ever since Abbott squibbed smashing that prick mark riley.’

    One of this country’s darkest days.

  78. Eyrie

    Just read the Cormann story. Obviously he’ll say anything to get ahead.

  79. Knuckle Dragger

    From the ‘Women in the ADF’ portal on their recruitment site:

    ‘People who join the full-time Navy, Army or Air Force are commonly expected to work on a full-time basis. However the ADF has flexible work arrangements available such as the ability to work from home, work from another location or work outside your normal core hours.’

    This could, on an aspirational basis, be shortened to:

    ‘People who join the full-time Navy, Army or Air Force are commonly expected to work’

  80. Eyrie

    Fairly sure the EC135s haven’t a violent bone in their DNA. Just a civvy utility bird painted black with roundels.

    Rex, nothing to stop it being used for FAC/ light attack. Couple of gun/rocket pods, door gunner etc.

  81. Bruce of Newcastle

    Maybe the RAAF should go back to using Cessnas.

  82. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops, I hope I haven’t triggered Numbers.
    Being shot at by a Cessna would be embarrassing.

  83. gafa

    what about superiors ?
    “Sir” and “Ma’am” obviously won’t cut it now.

    Soon there will be no superiors, can’t have any passive aggressive signs of privilege and dominance anymore especially from heaven forbid, whispers, white superiors …can a foxhole be classified as a safe-space!

  84. Dot

    Anyone not comfortable with killing the enemy should leave the ADF immediately.

  85. rickw

    Where Rick Tulla? FMD

    Yeah, Tulla, FMD indeed.

    They visited site and told me they were taking a more visible and aggressive stance. As it was “on the job” l didn’t ask WTF for. (These are the same cockheads who let go an actual mentally unhinged intruder go because he managed to BS them.)

    They turned up the other day when I wasn’t about, the front desk lady almost had a heart attack. What sort of guns were they carrying? “No idea I was to scared to break eye contact, all I know is that they were big and black and they kept one hand on the grip!”

  86. Rex Anger

    Different branch of government.
    Pretty sure you need to have it slung while eating donuts and scratching your arse.

    I suppose then we should be grateful that this Anger is not wearing Fedpol pips…

    Aside from the fact that gun theatre is useless in an oversecured environment like the terminal of an airport, most bad guys will not be packing body armour and loaded for an extended gunfight. Tgis is an outgrowing of military CQB, based on military experience against well-organised and equipped i surgents with body armor hopped up on methaphetamine, etc.

    5.56mm had better terminal effects on these people than pistol-caliber submachime guns. So TAG and the State police units have started carrying them as a matter of course. Not that it helped in the Lindt Café siege.

    The pattern of ‘terror’ attacks in this country are:

    1) Leave a bomb

    2) Ranting lunatic with an illegally-obtained sidearm, shotty or longarm

    3) As above but with a big knife

    4) As above but with a car. Sometimes cross-pollinates with Option 1) as the ACL in Canberra will attest.

    In all of these cases, a 5.56mm weapon is too much or far too little gun for the job (7.62mm is needed to crack an engine block to stop a car. Spraying at a windscreen is too risky, Nd effective ranve is too short if that car is intended to go BOOM!).

    Having said that, there is a tool for every job. So, this Anger would be mandating only 1x 5.56mm weaoon in every 4-5 patrolling members. The rest stay in the ready rack (in acorculating 4wd OR the AFP office) for that one horrific exception-to-the-rule event.

    Everyone else would be carrying short-barrel (22-24″) pump or semi-auto shotguns. 12 gauge or .410 is kinda moot for this argent. If the Jacks jack up about the recoil of 12ga., issue 410s. They may not carry as much payload per shell, but you do get more shells per unit of mass. The weapons are lighter, more versatile for the likely range of bad guys. Buckshot as standard, with slugs for the recalcitrant or better-protected perps. Rock salt and beanbags/batons for crowd control.

    Shotties stay slung over the shoulder, but always ready for crash-deployment.

    Sole concession to tacticool is red dot sights for speedy acquisition.

    That way the plebs get their gun theatre, but without the attendant risks of high velocity rounds (over-penetration, poor/flubbed marksmanship under stress) and less howling from the usual suspects about muh militarised pol-eez!

  87. rickw

    Slung? And with only one hand? Unprofessional!

    I used to get ripped for not having both hands on my weapon (or having it slung) at all times unless I was carrying something.

    Yep, and the “operator” was 5’ nothing and 65kg dripping wet. Basically one uppercut from a swarthy and it would be lights out => swarthy gains M4 and Glock.

  88. Boambee John

    I’m wondering in what scenario you think Trump yelling about obviously planted Russian propaganda about a global rock spider cabal will convince anyone other than Q freaks.

    Poor m0nty, Trump has completely destroyed him.

    PS, do you still believe in PeeGate?

  89. MatrixTransform

    one link at a time

    similar to the description I gave the missus yesterday.
    Some snake suffocate by constriction.
    every time you breath out, the snake tightens just a bit more

  90. Boambee John

    One of the groups to commit political suicide as a result of Kung Flu is the Sybil Rites nomenklatura.

    They have not said a word about restrictions on civil liberties that would have had them screeching from the rooftops in previous years.

  91. gafa

    Heavens, look at what 215 consecutive days at sea does to a ship.

    Never buy a second hand car that’s lived in proximity of the sea.

    Avoidance distance depends on effective penetration of the sea breeze and airborne salt particle concentration measured in cms cubed, eg the Dead Sea would be a bad influence.

  92. Eyrie

    Avoidance distance depends on effective penetration of the sea breeze and airborne salt particle concentration measured in cms cubed, eg the Dead Sea would be a bad influence.

    If you ridge soar the Waimai ranges on NZ north island in a good westerly the gliders have been known to pick up a good layer of salt on the leading edges. Also seen pressure probes severely corroded in SE Qld from salt in the air. There’s a reason compressors in PT6 turbines get washed frequently.

  93. Rex Anger

    @ RickW-

    I used to get ripped for not having both hands on my weapon (or having it slung) at all times unless I was carrying something.

    Yep, and the “operator” was 5’ nothing and 65kg dripping wet. Basically one uppercut from a swarthy and it would be lights out => swarthy gains M4 and Glock.

    Yuk x1000

    And many more after that.

    Gun theatre…

  94. Knuckle Dragger

    Rex, just now:

    ‘If the Jacks jack up about the recoil of 12ga’

    Any Jack that jacks up about the recoil of a 12ga pumpy should be made to test its recoil on said jack’s nutsack. I said nutsack, Jack!

    Jesus Christ. The Remo 870’s called the ‘crowd pleaser’ for a reason.

  95. Eyrie

    While she had some difficulty with the mass of the weapon itself, the 5 foot 1/2 inch, 48 Kg Mrs Eyrie didn’t have too much trouble with the recoil of a 12 gauge.

  96. Diogenes

    “Sir” and “Ma’am” obviously won’t cut it now.

    I believe you are now addressed by your rank as a result of a crossdresser arcing up.

  97. gafa

    Someone noted that the ABC’s Ferguson womyn (aka Mrs Jones) has hightailed it to the US.
    So has Michael Rowland.

    Oh to be so special and privileged as to be allowed to travel overseas…as if there will no other reporting available from the US…essential travel, just essential.

  98. miltonf

    Exactly gafa the ABC is a bloated, expensive, useless hangover from the pre internet era.

  99. Rex Anger

    @ KD-

    Any Jack that jacks up about the recoil of a 12ga pumpy should be made to test its recoil on said jack’s nutsack. I said nutsack, Jack!

    Jesus Christ. The Remo 870’s called the ‘crowd pleaser’ for a reason.

    I do confess to not having any real shotgun experience. At least, not yet.

    But I do understand them and their capabilities and their usage enough to know that they are somewhat underemployed…

  100. Infidel Tiger

    Moderator has actually been pretty darn good.

    I withdraw my previous slur.

  101. Any word on the protest in Melbourne? Was that today or tomorrow?

  102. thefrollickingmole

    Scott Adams
    @ScottAdamsSays
    By now, Hunter Biden is more nervous than a Jeffrey Toobin Zoom caller.

  103. rickw

    I do confess to not having any real shotgun experience. At least, not yet.

    But I do understand them and their capabilities and their usage enough to know that they are somewhat underemployed…

    Ex cop I knew reckoned he never saw anyone wanting to have a crack if they had someone armed with a shotgun. I guess even the maddest and baddest figured that a saucer size hole in their body was not readily survivable!

  104. thefrollickingmole

    Revealed, the real reason wang loves the ‘Rona

    https://dilbert.com/strip/2020-10-04

  105. rickw

    Any word on the protest in Melbourne? Was that today or tomorrow?

    2:30 today I think?

    Vikpol transitioning lesbian said protest was ok!

  106. Michael Ramirez references a Divinyl’s track. Didn’t expect that.

    Thanks again for the toons, Tom.

  107. Nelson_Kidd-Players

    Five and a half hours and it’s pumpkins for this thread.

    Even if Halloween is still to come.

  108. gafa

    If you ridge soar

    NZ gliding, beautiful, very cool.

  109. Tom

    Five and a half hours and it’s pumpkins for this thread.

    Correct.

    I’m sure Doomlord knows he has to post a mini-open fred at 6pm to bridge us through to the new open fred at midnight — or otherwise leave us open-fredless for six hours.

  110. Zatara

    Ex cop I knew reckoned he never saw anyone wanting to have a crack if they had someone armed with a shotgun. I guess even the maddest and baddest figured that a saucer size hole in their body was not readily survivable!

    Dodging a bullet is one thing, trying to dodge 20 pellets from a #4 buckshot round is a bit more sporty.

  111. Eyrie

    gafa., I’ve met most of those guys. They are a lot braver in a sailplane than I have ever been.
    At least there is a beach there to land on. They also soar the west coast of the Coromandel and there is no beach.

  112. mh

    Avi Yemini 🇦🇺🇮🇱
    @OzraeliAvi
    ·
    21h
    #BREAKING: Victoria Police announce a sudden change in stance regarding LAWFUL protest ahead of our constitutional Supreme Court challenge.

    They now recognise tomorrows protest as a “human right”.

    http://SaveVictoria.com.au is already winning!

    SPREAD. THE. WORD.

    https://twitter.com/OzraeliAvi/status/1319158399506919426?s=20

  113. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Alleged child ropist charged with abusing girl, 11, who was so terrified when he was let out on bail she took her own life is REARRESTED over the suspected rope of a girl, 5

    Peter Fredrick Humes, 67, has been charged with [email protected] abusing a second girl
    Humes had already been charged with roping Indigenous girl Annaliesse Ugle, 11
    On Friday morning he was rearrested and hit with 17 more charges by WA Police

    Daily Mail.

  114. OldOzzie

    Breitbart Voting Debate

    Thank you for voting!
    Donald Trump 96.96%

    Joe Biden 3.04%

    Meanwhile

    Weekend at Biden’s

  115. JC

    Ozzie, that is the funniest vid I’ve seen in a while. stitches.

  116. min

    Cunning Biden’s semantics “ I did not take any money from foreign countries “ No Joe you got it from your son.

  117. gafa

    I’ve met most of those guys. They are a lot braver in a sailplane than I have ever been.

    Good to hear Eyrie, nice circles you move in 👍.

    When it comes to bravery what did Dirty Harry say, something about “a pilot’s got to know his limitations” 🙂, anyway I have detected a modicum of modesty in you, I’m sure you do all your own stunts.

    I guess the more you fly without an engine the less you miss it and the more “extreme” the boundaries, and the fun, become.

  118. Oh come on

    The ABC news app’s headline of the debate is

    Leaving interruptions behind, Trump leans into attacks while Biden digs into policy

    LOL well that’s a take! Again with the ABC trying to cast Biden as some great policy wonk. Really bizarre.

  119. It is a touch too convenient, and wrong, to blame Howard for the ARH debacle.
    The agressive anti-US sentiment in the Defence procurement bureaucracy (both uniformed and civilian, with passed over uniformed kucks probably the worst) was extraordinary. Everybody was lining-up to rip the APACHE, urged on by RAAF and some arms corps, and especially Army Office bureaucrats looking to limit the expansion of Army Aviation.
    For those suggesting that a sejour in France was more attractive to the bureaucrats and procurement creeps than was Seattle, you are correct. It wasn ‘t just disgusting Ministers who snuffled at the Tour d’Argent or the Negresco. The whole thing was sickening.

  120. OldOzzie

    Donald Trump Owned the Debate Stage — and Joe Biden Along With it — in the Third Presidential Debate

    I’ll get into the substance of some of the exchanges in articles later tonight and tomorrow after I have a chance to read the transcript.

    But in terms of style points and tactics, Donald Trump laid waste to Joe Biden — and the Presidential Commission on Debates — in the Third Presidential Debate.

    I’ve been a federal court trial lawyer for 30 years with a pretty good record of success. I’m not a “plodder” in the courtroom — for me the well of the courtroom is a stage and if you want to win you have to own it.

    President Trump owned it tonight. He “bossed” the debate.

    Donald Trump learned from his mistakes in the first debate. He took on the rules changes imposed by the Presidential Commission and said “Fine, let’s do this.”

    I listened to the first 45 minutes while driving, and that gave me only their words to gauge — whether they answered questions, whether the evaded questions, whether their answers were substantive or fluff.

    I llstened for whether they responded to each other, and when an exchange ended, who got the better of the finish — who made their point and who had to give ground?

    This one wasn’t even close.

    If there had been a referee, this as a TKO in the 3rd round.

    From the very start — WITHOUT BEING RUDE — Trump demanded that the exchanges end on his terms. Over and over he demanded — politely — that Kristen Welker allow him to respond. Sometimes 30 seconds, sometimes 10 seconds. Some of his responses were better than others — some were exceptional. And I can’t think of a SINGLE instance where Biden demanded the opportunity to come back in himself with something else to say.

    By force of personality Trump demanded the final word time after time, Welker was forced to give it to him lest it looks like the debate was about her rather than about voters being able to hear from the candidates.

    Some of Pres. Trump’s lines are “stock” and worn, but he has a veteran debater’s ability to turn a phrase spontaneously that captures the moment.

    I saw the last 30 minutes on television and two stood out — my reaction each time was “Nice — the thought and the verbalization”.

    Paraphrasing: “I ran because of you Joe. You and Barack did such a horrible job I had to run. I could have stayed in private life, I had a great life. But you’re the reason I ran. You to were so terrible, you’re the reason I ran”.

    The second instance was in the discussion about Pres. Trump having accomplished criminal justice reform, and Joe Biden talking about his plan to go further with comprehensive drug treatment.

    Pres. Trump asked the question — which he asked effectively in a few contexts throughout the debate — “You had eight years Joe. If you wanted to do it, if you could have done it, you had eight years and you didn’t get it done.”

    Lamely — and without seeing how it was going to be turned around as a bullet right in his forehead — Biden said “We had to deal with a Republican Congress.”

    In one of the best moments of the night Pres. Trump slipped the knife right between the ribs. Paraphrasing again — “You have to convince them, Joe. That’s what you have to do. You have to talk them into it. That’s how things get done.”

    In both instances, Joe Biden just pulled the blanket over his head and wondered when it was going to end.

    All night long it was the same way. Pres. Trump was “Alpha” without going manic as he did in the first debate. He verbally “stalked” Biden across the stage. Biden looked like he wanted to be anywhere but where he was.

    When Joe Biden gets nervous his gaze becomes fixed. For long periods of time he stared directly into the camera. When he does that the features of his face narrow. You have to move your head around and shift your focus to avoid taking on the look of having a “beady little stare.” BIden had that look nearly the entire 30 minutes that I was able to watch on television.

    In tactical terms familiar to MMA fans, Pres. Trump put together an impressive “ground and pound” effort. He took Biden down, kept him down, and pounded him consistently over 90 minutes.

    From an election standpoint, the timing was perfect. He’s rebounded in the polls in the past few days — not that they are any more accurate now than they were before. But the contest tonight showed that one of the participants is capable of being President, and the other is not.

  121. Rex Anger

    The agressive anti-US sentiment in the Defence procurement bureaucracy (both uniformed and civilian, with passed over uniformed kucks probably the worst) was extraordinary. Everybody was lining-up to rip the APACHE, urged on by RAAF and some arms corps, and especially Army Office bureaucrats looking to limit the expansion of Army Aviation.

    Funny, that.

    Most of us fools on the sharp end would have preferred American kit because we knew it worked.

    Unless the design was too specialised and not quite up to snuff (Bradley). Or we had our own that outayed theirs (Bushmaster and Hawkei).

    I know of many mamy Leopard 2 fanbois out there. Some who even prefer Challenger 2. I think Merkava IVs would be superb, but the Israelis will never export them.

    As far as I know, Leo 2 has not been proven in a tank-on-tank fight. Nor done the hard yards in as hostile a COIN environment as the M1A1 and A2. Yes, they have been used in Afghanistan and quite effectively, too. But would they have worked as well under Fallujah, or Mosul-like conditions?

    Add in the stability of the spares, logistical support and size of the US fleet, andM1 win hands down. Euro Leo 2 fleets are in a constant state of flux, and if ze Chermans sneeze funny, Krauss Maffei-Wegman have pulled their contract and your tank fleet is toast.

    There are never enough end-users in the procurement chain…

  122. egg_

    “Blue singlet offroaders”

  123. Knuckle Dragger

    rickw:

    ‘Ex cop I knew reckoned he never saw anyone wanting to have a crack if they had someone armed with a shotgun.’

    With the provisos that a) they are seen by the punters to be proficient with it, and b) the acoustics are such that the rack/rack are clearly heard by all concerned, yes.

    It has a marvellous ability to sort out who really wants to be troublesome and who doesn’t.

    Apparently.

  124. egg_

    Someone noted that the ABC’s Ferguson womyn (aka Mrs Jones) has hightailed it to the US.
    So has Michael Rowland.

    Let’s hope for TDS head explosions Mk.II.

  125. Arnost

    I never said I opposed fracking… I didn’t, show the tape!

    Well – as per your request Joe:

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1319491234042269696?s=20

    LOL!

  126. Oh come on

    There was one moment when Trump demonstrated he was in a completely different league to Biden – it was when Biden was lamely making excuses about why he didn’t get anything done while VP, Republican congress wah wah wah (I think it was a big mistake to allow the question to be framed in that way – although possibly not a mistake in that it was hard to avoid).

    Now, Trump could have said – and I would have said – ‘but you had a Dem congress in your first two years blah blah blah’ and gone into the reeds trying to draw equivalences and whatnot, but Trump went with ‘you gotta talk to them, Joe, bring them along!’ in almost a kindly way – the way a mentor would to an impetuous rookie.

    It’s such an obviously true statement on every level; of course it’s the way the system is designed to work but it’s also a truth that applies in so much of human interaction. There is an instant recognition of those times when you need to keep someone sweet and it can be tough; those situations where you have to talk someone resistant around to your way of thinking, those encounters with people who blame others when they missed an opportunity. People get this at a fundamental level because they see it in their lives all the time, at work and at home. Hell, a parent probably knows it best of all as they help their children to gradually come to the realisation that the world doesn’t revolve around them and their needs.

    It was at that moment when the gulf between the two men’s characters was at its widest. It showed a career politician being mentored by a New York property developer on what should be the politician’s bread and butter. It could have been a parent gently reasoning with a miffed child. It was an extraordinary moment – I’m sure I haven’t seen anything like it in the theatre of political debate and I never would have expected to.

  127. hzhousewife

    but Trump went with ‘you gotta talk to them, Joe, bring them along!

    Yes, I noticed that too. Trump has worked with people in business his whole life, I think it shows here.

  128. OldOzzie

    Biden shocks debate viewers with bizarre Hitler reference

    Democratic nominee evoked Nazi leader to make a point about North Korea

  129. The video of Giuliani with the Borat crew is even more damning than the still. Rudy, you big dumb galoot.

  130. egg_

    Joe getting his next talking points on his apple watch:

    Abbott666 did same – it wasn’t da misogyny!!?

  131. Oh come on

    Trump has worked with people in business his whole life, I think it shows here.

    Yes. If you wanted to capture the essence of being a successful democratically elected political representative in three words, ‘bring people along’ would be very good choices. Hell, that’s precisely how elections are won; the purpose of entering into such a debate is to bring people along. For Biden to put himself in a position where he was able to be (justifiably) advised by his opponent that he needed to bring people along – extraordinary.

    It also demonstrates how hollow Biden’s hackneyed claims of being capable of representing all Americans were. By his own admission, he spent eight years utterly failing to do this when he last held executive authority.

  132. Infidel Tiger King

    The video of Giuliani with the Borat crew is even more damning than the still. Rudy, you big dumb galoot.

    And completely exonerates him.

  133. Now, Trump could have said – and I would have said – ‘but you had a Dem congress in your first two years blah blah blah’ and gone into the reeds trying to draw equivalences and whatnot, but Trump went with ‘you gotta talk to them, Joe, bring them along!’ in almost a kindly way – the way a mentor would to an impetuous rookie.

    LOL. Name me a thing Trump accomplished in Congress by bringing the opposition along.

  134. cohenite

    Gab
    #3630068, posted on October 23, 2020 at 3:29 pm
    Sack Dan – massive turnout

    https://twitter.com/Trumpsta17/status/1319478501381001216

    Wow.

    In other news piss-take monty measures stuff (h/t shy ted)

  135. wivenhoe

    And completely exonerates him.

    In most peoples minds, but unfortunatley, Monty is most people, so you are only dragging yourself down to his level of stupidity, if you go there, he will beat you.

  136. Oh come on

    m0nty, you dummy. The debate’s over. Biden could have said that, I guess, but he didn’t. And Trump wasn’t the one whining about how it wasn’t his fault, a hostile congress spoiled all his plans etc etc. Biden has to own that and also eat the obvious, beautifully simple response he got.

  137. Rex Anger

    LOL. Name me a thing Trump accomplished in Congress by bringing the opposition along.

    His agenda.

    Remember the 2 shutdowns, mUnted?

    Who backed down, mUnted?

    Pretty sure it was neither the President nor the Republicans. Nor the Senate…

    You Stupid Boy…

  138. wivenhoe

    oops, should be not most people.

  139. Oh come on

    Goodness me, no one will vote for Giuliani now! What an idiot! What a scandal! His wife is going to be so angry!

  140. Oh come on

    Australia has literally run out of luck? What happened to the strategic luck reserves that were put aside?

  141. Des Deskperson

    Flags – Australian , Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islands – were at half mast today at our local ACT public school – Chapman Primary.

    I could think of no idea why, but I eventually found out that today’s the State funeral for the Late Senator Susan Ryan, so all flags on public buildings in the ACT and NSW were required to be flown at half mast as a ‘mark of respect’.

    It seems weeks ago since she died.

    I wonder if Richard Butler attended.

  142. OldOzzie

    Barack Obama: How the mighty are fallen

    Once upon a time, Barack Obama had the world at his feet. Tens of thousands of adoring people would come to see him, and often women would react to him as teens once reacted to Frank Sinatra, by fainting away in his presence. Now, though, not so much. Obama is stumping for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, and the magic is gone. Nowadays, Obama is drawing crowds that number in only the tens and maybe the hundreds.

    But back to Obama. The following are videos showing his campaign stop in Philadelphia. Don’t you love his little bullhorn as he “sneaks up” on these fifteen or so people?

    Obama then spoke at a car rally, which seems to have all the thrill of a drive-in movie on a Wednesday night. Allegedly, there were “hundreds” of cars honking for this (ahem) magic moment:

    Meanwhile, here’s footage from Donald Trump’s rally, not in Philadelphia, but in Erie, Pennsylvania, population 95,508:

    It’s true that Obama draws bigger crowds than Biden. But that’s not saying much when you consider that just 12 years ago, Obama was a political god. If I were a betting woman, I would bet that Obama’s efforts on Biden’s behalf will not change the outcome of the upcoming election.

  143. Tim Neilson

    People get this at a fundamental level because they see it in their lives all the time, at work and at home. Hell, a parent probably knows it best of all as they help their children to gradually come to the realisation that the world doesn’t revolve around them and their needs.

    True, but remember it was Trump talking to Joe, father of Hunter.

  144. Oh come on

    Hunter clearly needed a dad like Trump who would have leaned over and calmly but resolutely said “you need to stop smoking crack, son” – and Hunter would have!

  145. Some History

    From today’s tongue lashing presser

    Hunchback: If you want to abuse that we’re allowing you to gather for, say, a picnic and turn it into a [protest] stunt at the Shrine is not on.

  146. thefrollickingmole

    Dear Dan.

    You are boss of me.
    Fuck along now you homophradite slut.

  147. thefrollickingmole

    The missing question mark to the 2dn line is here..

    ?

  148. JC

    m0nty
    #3630097, posted on October 23, 2020 at 4:17 pm

    Now, Trump could have said – and I would have said – ‘but you had a Dem congress in your first two years blah blah blah’ and gone into the reeds trying to draw equivalences and whatnot, but Trump went with ‘you gotta talk to them, Joe, bring them along!’ in almost a kindly way – the way a mentor would to an impetuous rookie.

    LOL. Name me a thing Trump accomplished in Congress by bringing the opposition along.

    Prison reform for one thing, you imbecile and you need to get back in the basement. It’s time.

  149. OldOzzie

    Secret Men’s Business – Fish Filleting

    FISH FILLETING 101

    Learn to slice and dice your catch like a pro!

    There’s more than one way to skin a flathead, and the same goes for just about any table fish you’re likely to encounter in Australian waters.

    Professional fishermen and fish market workers who are preparing dozens of fish per hour have some fairly hard and fast guidelines as to the best ways to liberate slabs of flesh from skeletons, but for us amateurs, the only rule is to do whatever works best.

    If you prefer to start cutting from the tail and work your way up to the head, go for it. If you reckon you’ll get a better result doing the reverse, give it a try.

    One thing that’s for sure is there’s nothing worse than making a mess of an otherwise great fish with a dodgy filleting job. It’s always worth taking the extra few seconds to ensure you do the best job you can, there’s nothing to be gained by rushing.

    Most of us don’t get the chance to fish nearly as often as we’d like to, so it’s doubly important to make the most of a great catch when opportunity strikes.

    Here are a few brainwaves that’ve hit in 20 years of filleting fish and allowed me to minimise mishaps and put together some tasty seafood meals at home and on the road.

    – USE THE RIGHT TOOLS
    – PREPARE YOUR CATCH
    – TAILOR YOUR APPROACH

  150. Old School Conservative

    OldOzzie
    #3630129, posted on October 23, 2020 at 4:49 pm
    Secret Men’s Business – Fish Filleting

    TAILOR YOUR APPROACH

    Love your work OldOzzie.
    Keep ’em coming.

  151. calli

    Secret Men’s business? LOL!

    The Beloved gets sea sick. Even on a still lake. That doesn’t stop him going out fishing when opportunity knocks.

    My “reward”? An esky of uncleaned fish handed to me on return by a green-gilled fisherman. Yay! 😑

  152. Remember the 2 shutdowns, mUnted?

    Who backed down, mUnted?

    Pretty sure it was neither the President nor the Republicans. Nor the Senate…

    DACA is still going and the wall didn’t get built, so the Democrats clearly won on both occasions.

  153. OldOzzie

    calli
    #3630135, posted on October 23, 2020 at 4:54 pm
    Secret Men’s business? LOL!

    The Beloved gets sea sick. Even on a still lake. That doesn’t stop him going out fishing when opportunity knocks.

    My “reward”? An esky of uncleaned fish handed to me on return by a green-gilled fisherman. Yay! 😑

    calli

    An excellent Article for your to print and give to Beloved and say “Learn!”

  154. Shy Ted

    Have I got this right? Michael Rowland, Sarah Henderson & Matthias Corrmann can eff off overseas just like that but we can’t?

  155. Prison reform for one thing

    He had to be dragged kicking and screaming into that one, and he only relented when Kim Kardashian sat on his lap (figuratively). Bipartisan coalitions in both house and senate predated his support. He didn’t bring them along, they brought him along.

    Try again!

  156. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Oh come on
    #3630075, posted on October 23, 2020 at 3:50 pm

    OCO, spot on.

  157. OldOzzie

    Biden Says ‘My Son Has Not Made Money in… China.’ PANTS ON FIRE

    During the final presidential debate on Thursday, President Donald Trump pressed Democratic nominee Joe Biden on the evolving scandal about his family trading on his name in international business deals, particularly Biden’s son Hunter. During an intense exchange, Biden insisted that Hunter Biden did not make any money in China.

    “My son has not made money in terms of this thing you’re talking about, China,” Biden insisted. He claimed that “the guy who got in trouble in Ukraine” was President Trump, whom Biden accused of “trying to bribe” the Ukrainian government to dig up dirt on Biden.

    Biden’s claim that his son has not made money in China is utterly, disgustingly false. In fact, there’s an entire movie about it!

    The new documentary RIDING THE DRAGON: The Bidens’ Chinese Secrets exposes Hunter Biden’s nefarious deals with the Chinese Communist Party government and with state-run companies with ties to the communist party. In 2013 alone, China finalized a $1 billion business deal with Hunter Biden’s new company, Bohai Harvest.

    In fact, the deals Hunter Biden made in China strengthened China at America’s expense.

    The movie exposes how Hunter Biden’s Bohai Harvest joined forces with the Chinese military contractor AVIC to buy American parts manufacturer Henniges, a dual-use technology company that produces technology that can be used for commercial and military purposes. Bohai Harvest also invested in a military surveillance company that the Chinese Communist Party later used in the detention of over one million Uyghur [email protected] in Xinjiang.

    Bohai Harvest also helped China in its competition with the U.S. over rare earth minerals, teaming up with China Molybdenum to acquire more than half of Congo’s Tenke copper mine, one of the largest copper mines in the world. Hunter Biden’s company also became an anchor investor in China General Nuclear, a company mostly owned by the Chinese government. At the time, CGN was under FBI investigation for stealing U.S. nuclear secrets.

    Hunter Biden did not just make money with Bohai Harvest, however. Biden’s son’s real estate firm, Rosemont Realty, got lucrative commercial real estate deals in China, even though Hunter had no background in commercial real estate. Gemini, a company with close ties to the Chinese military, bought a 75 percent stake in Rosemont Realty, paying $3 billion.

    Does Joe Biden seriously maintain that Hunter Biden did not make a single penny out of all these deals? That his son sold out America’s interests for China again and again, and has nothing to show for it?

    That’s even more absurd than blaming Trump for every single coronavirus death.

  158. Delta A

    Oh come on
    #3630075, posted on October 23, 2020 at 3:50 pm

    OCO, spot on.

    Naturally. 🙂

  159. Frank

    Someone noted that the ABC’s Ferguson womyn (aka Mrs Jones) has hightailed it to the US.
    So has Michael Rowland.

    Waleed is too nervous to risk it for a second time after only just getting out under cover of darkness last time.

  160. Bruce of Newcastle

    DACA is still going and the wall didn’t get built, so the Democrats clearly won on both occasions.

    The Wall is looking good. You can see from the map that most of the construction is on the less secured bits in Arizona, New Mexico and southern California.

    https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/along-us-borders/border-wall-system

    Appears that a lot of the major smuggling routes have been covered already.

  161. thefrollickingmole

    Bipartisan coalitions in both house and senate predated his support.

    A golly gosh never mind that malarkey, come on man, Obama and Biden just couldnt diddy doodley manage it.

  162. Top Ender

    Tensions have boiled over at an anti-lockdown protest in Melbourne, just days before COVID-19 restrictions are set to be eased.

    A scuffle broke out between the front line of the protest group and police as the groups came head to head.

    Punches were thrown and plastic bottles were hurled at police.

    Protesters have antagonised officers, yelling and swearing at them.

    Multiple flares have been let off while the crowd marched down Park St toward Kings Way.

    A lone police van was stomped on and kicked by angry protesters. The side mirror of the vehicle was also damaged.

    Flags being waved include the Australian flag, the Australian Red Ensign flag, the Eureka flag, the American flag and the British flag.

    Hundreds of anti-lockdown protesters gathered at the Shrine about 2pm, but the protest attempted to move to Parliament House.

    They were stopped on Princes Bridge and then relocated to the Stapley Pavillion in the Botanical Gardens after being outsmarted by police tactics.

    One man carries a sign: “I should be at a barbecue”.

    Others are wearing “Make America Great Again” caps.

    The group sung Advance Australia Fair before police arrived, prompting them to march away.

    Ugly scuffles broke out between the police mounted brigade and the protesers on Princes Bridge.

    One man struck a police horse with a wooden flag pole.

    At least two men had been arrested by police after ignoring directions to move on.

    There was no social distancing among the protest crowd.

    Many were not wearing masks.

    Signs carried by protesters included one that read “media is the real virus”, another “free Vic” and a third “Corona hoax 1984”.

    The lively crowd was heard chanting: “Sack Daniel Andrews” and “Freedom, Freedom”.

    At one point a ring of police officers had encircled a group of protesters.

    They were however powerless to make mass arrests due to the sheer number of those gathered.

    “Daniel Andrews is unworthy to lead our state,” a man on a microphone told the crowd.

    The group has been energised by recent easing of restrictions, meaning protesting is no longer illegal in Victoria.

    Under the current health guidelines, protesting is not unlawful, but gathering in groups of more than 10 is.

    The offence attracts a $4952 fine.

    A heavy police presence was assembled at the Shrine of Remembrance and outside Parliament House.

    Police including the mounted brigade, public order response team and the air wing are monitoring the protest, which started at 2pm.

    Signs hanging off freeway bridges and billboards advertised the protest across Melbourne in recent days.

    Victoria Police warned they would hold people to account and enforce COVID-19 restrictions.

    “You must comply with the CHO guidelines,” Assistant Commissioner Luke Cornelius said on Thursday.

    “Anyone who turns up at the Shrine can expect to find police asking them, ‘who are you, where do you live’.”

    When asked about if police would use discretion he said: “Police always have discretion but here is the thing, if we cut people slack, we have to take action in the name of the vast majority of Victorians who are doing the right thing.

    “We owe it to the people who are doing the right thing.”

    Daniel Andrews called on people to abandon the protest.

    He said this was not the time to gather in groups with placards and that it was “very different” to people having picnics in groups of up to 10 from a maximum of two households.

    Herald-Sun

  163. Frank

    Hard to imagine what is left that could be added to this one, an Antifa tranny in a burka raging against the man. Phwoar! A career as a frontline ISIS comfort woman might be appropriate.

  164. Ellen of Tasmania

    One man struck a police horse with a wooden flag pole.

    Shame on him.

  165. Nick

    I did like a Biden whining about ‘wear a mask’ when asked as to what he would do.
    Biden appeared whiny and weak. Trump at least advocated getting on with things

  166. Delta A

    One man struck a police horse with a wooden flag pole.

    Shame on him.

    Yes. No-one is going to sympathise with a protester – or their cause – when he/she harms an innocent animal.

  167. Dot

    m0nty
    #3630143, posted on October 23, 2020 at 5:01 pm

    Prison reform for one thing

    He had to be dragged kicking and screaming into that one, and he only relented when Kim Kardashian sat on his lap (figuratively). Bipartisan coalitions in both house and senate predated his support. He didn’t bring them along, they brought him along.

    Try again!

    No, you “try again”.

    Obama did stuff all in this regard.

  168. Boambee John

    Obama did stuff all in this regard.

    Dot

    Please stop exaggerating the Obama/Biden record.

    They did not reach the elevated heights of “stuff all”.

  169. twostix

    m0nty whistling past the graveyard I see.

  170. thefrollickingmole

    In shocking news..

    Please be sitting down with smelling salts ready…

    Swooning couch at the ready

    Victoria police won’t investigate claims of Vatican money transfers to Australia linked to Pell case

    So let that sink in for a moment.
    A massive case of perversion of justice which resulted in the imprisonment of an innocent chap (7-0 be upon him) and they are uninterested in doing much about it.

    Victoria police has confirmed being made aware of payments from the Vatican to Australia, but says that without evidence of “suspicious activity” it is not investigating them.

    On Tuesday, Australia’s financial crimes watchdog, Austrac, revealed it had provided information to the federal and Victorian police after it was asked to examine allegations that €700,000 (A$1.1m) had been paid from Vatican funds, allegedly in connection with George Pell’s court matters.

    On Friday, a Victoria police spokeswoman told Guardian Australia: “Austrac has made Victoria police aware of transfer of monies from the Vatican over a period of time to Australia.

    “They have not advised Victoria police of any suspicious activity related to these transactions.

    “In the absence of any other evidence or intelligence, Victoria police has noted the advice from Austrac. We are not at this time conducting any further investigation.”

    I think its time to defund the Victorian police.

  171. Anthony

    Cameron Stewart thinks that the Hunter Biden criminality is ‘far too vague’.
    FMD x 1000. I buy the Australian only on weekends. CORRECTION – I never ever ever buy the Australian.

  172. Bruce of Newcastle

    Victoria police won’t investigate claims of Vatican money transfers to Australia linked to Pell case

    Too busy monstering pregnant women on park benches.

  173. gafa

    One man struck a police horse with a wooden flag pole.
    Shame on him.
    Yes. No-one is going to sympathise with a protester – or their cause – when he/she harms an innocent animal.

    No-one wants to see innocent animals harmed but this is maybe a slightly naive and emotional comment lacking in proof, context or even degree. Police horses have no place in close proximity to people in public protests, which are after all a human right.
    Blame the police for using horses for attack, intimidation and control, they are trained to crush and trample people to death.
    Even trained horses can be flighty and fickle and do a lot of damage very quickly, their use by the police in such settings should be banned and left to Moomba parades only.

    By the way any suggestions for a good movie to watch tonight? Not sure I really want to watch Borat’s latest offering but may have to just for educational purposes.

  174. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    They certainly don’t like it up ’em, as old Jonesy was want to intone. Here is my objection to being denied a voice in the Australian on today’s debate, and the dreadful awful hurtful comment I made about them. lol

    This comment of mine below has been rejected.
    I would like to know why.
    Do you not like my first two sentences concerning your reporting?
    If so, let me know, and at least I will know that we pay a subscription to a newspaper that dislikes critique.
    If your objection is to anything more substantive, please let me know also, and I will debate this topic in another of your fora.
    Sincerely, Elizabeth Beare.
    Elizabeth, Michael’s wife

    The Australian has not been even-handed in its commentary here. It is very anti-Trump in essence. Yet Trump has done amazing things for America and I hope he will continue to do them. I simply cannot understand the response of people who think that Biden made an winning bid in this debate for the American Presidency. He managed to struggle through a lacklustre performance and appeared tired and phony, especially with the endless c’mons. He’s up to his neck in dubious financial dealing too, which the mass media has ignored, as Trump managed to point out.

    More to the point, Biden and his handlers are selling a complete dud on the economy, entailing a green craziness that will sink it. A vote for Biden is a vote away from all that America has stood for in the past and as Trump said, I hope voters in Pennsylvania, Texas, Oklahoma and Louisiana are listening to the coming crushing of their livelihoods for a climatic chimera. Look too at what is happening in Victoria here to see the future if Trump does not win and introduce some sense concerning Covid lockdowns or in Australia’s manufacturing sector if the LNP don’t find some pushback against the anti-coal lobbies. So many commentators in the media have drunk their own Trump derangement Kool-Aid. So foolish.

    Story: Experts’ verdicts: Who won the debate?

  175. Tim Neilson

    Cameron Stewart thinks that the Hunter Biden criminality is ‘far too vague’.

    “Far too vague” for what? I suppose it’s possible that on a very strict application of the “beyond reasonable doubt” test there’d be a chance that the evidence already gathered wouldn’t be certain to get Hunter or Joe behind bars.
    But it’s plenty precise enough to:
    (a) require any diligent law enforcement agency to start a thorough investigation; and
    (b) compel any competent honest voter to refuse to vote for Joe unless there’s an extremely convincing and well authenticated explanation.

  176. calli

    They have not advised Victoria police of any suspicious activity related to these transactions.

    I thought AUSTRAC’s job was notification, not investigation. What exactly entails “suspicious activity”? Amounts paid under the notification amount would go undetected.

    Please correct me if I’m wrong.

  177. OldOzzie

    Blockbuster Report Reveals How Biden Family Was Compromised By China

    In a day when half the US population remained transfixed by the ongoing revelations about the contents of Hunter Biden’s “laptop from hell” and the other half was doing everything in its power to ignore the news which the socials have conveniently been desperate to censor, a far less noticed but perhaps just as important investigative report authored by the unknown Typhoon Investigations, was released by Christopher Balding, Associate Professor at Peking University HSBC School of Business Shenzhen, China and also Bloomberg contributor (which is odd considering the clear anti-Trump bias of the Bloomberg media empire) exposing Biden activities in China which “the press has simply refused to cover”, and which reveals “how Biden was compromised by the Communist Party of China.”

    In a series of tweets around noon on Thursday, Balding said that he had really “not wanted to do this but roughly 2 months ago I was handed a report about Biden activities in China the press has simply refused to cover. I want to strongly emphasize I did not write the report but I know who did.”

    Some more background on the origins of the report from Balding’s website:

    For two months I have worked on behalf of my colleague to ensure that this report helped others report on the documented evidence of Biden activities with regards to China. I want to emphasize a couple of things about my own involvement.

    First, I did not write the report and I am not responsible for the report. I have gone over the report with a fine tooth comb and can find nothing factually wrong with the report. Everything is cited and documented. Arguably the only weakness is that we do not have internal emails between Chinese players or the Chinese and Bidens that would make explicit what the links clearly imply.

    Second, I will not be disclosing the individual who did write this report. They have very valid reasons to fear for both their personal safety and professional risks. Throughout the years that I have known this individual we never discussed politics. I have never heard them criticize any political party other than the CCP. They are not a Republican.

    Third, it was my very real wish that the press would have reported on the documented evidence in this report and left me and the author entirely out of this situation. I did not vote for Trump in 2016 and will not vote for him in 2020. This information however is entirely valid public interest information that the press has simply refused to cover due to their own partisan wishes. I have serious policy differences with President Trump. I am pro-immigration. I would like to see more free trade efforts to shift trade away from China and into partner countries from Mexico to Vietnam and India. I believe that institution building in Asia is vital and America needs to take that lead. However, I cannot in good conscience allow documented evidence of the variety presented here go unreported by partisans who are simply choosing to hide information.

    Finally, I will not be answering any questions about the report. I had no wish to be involved in Presidential politics. I do not want to be on the news. I will not be answer any questions about who wrote the report. We need to return the focus to the known documented facts.
    Upon review, this is how Balding summarized the report’s contents in his series of tweets:

    Hunter Biden is partnered with the Chinese state. Entire investment partnership is Chinese state money from social security fund to China Development Bank. It is actually a subsidiary of the Bank of China. This is not remotely anything less than a Chinese state funded play.

    Though the entire size of the fund cannot be reconstructed, the Taiwanese cofounder who is now detained in China, reports it to be NOT $1-1.5 billion but $6.5 billion. This would make Hunters stake worth at a minimum at least $50 million if he was to sell it.

    Disturbingly, everyone on the Chinese side are clearly linked with influence and intelligence organizations. China uses very innocuous sounding organization names to hide PLA, United Front, or Ministry of Foreign Affairs influence/intelligence operations. This report cannot say Hunter was the target of such an operation or that China even targeted him. However, based upon the clear pattern of individuals and organizations surrounding him it is an entirely reasonable conclusion.

    Finally, the believed Godfather in arranging everything is a gentleman named Yang Jiechi. He is currently the CCP Director of Foreign Affairs leading strategist for America, Politburo member one of the most powerful men in China, and Xi confidant. Why does this matter?

    He met regularly with Joe Biden during his stint as Chinese ambassador the US when Biden chaired the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Later he was Minister of Foreign Affairs when the investment partnership was made official in 2013. Importantly, the Taiwanese national listed MOFA institutions as the key clients in helping to arrange everything. Yang would clearly have known the importance of Hunter Biden and undoubtedly would have been informed of any dealings. Given that he is now the point person in China for dealing with the US this raises major concerns about a Biden administration dealing impartially with an individual in this capacity. These are documented facts from Chinese corporate records like IPO prospectuses and media. They raise very valid concerns about Biden linkages to China.

    Turning to the report itself, here is the 10-point summary of its findings:

  178. Since it’s pumpkins for this thread right now, I guess the Trump v Biden Debate Open Thread is the surrogate until midnight.

    Anyway let’s all run over there: singing:

  179. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I think its time to defund the Victorian police.

    I think it’s time to disband Victorian Police, and hand the job over to civilian contractors.

  180. calli

    On the police use of horses.

    Did the police honestly expect the demo today to be violent? A riot? Surely they would have a fair idea of the type of people involved in wanting to have the economy opened up again.

    The horses were deployed to intimidate. No other reason.

  181. Tim Neilson

    No-one wants to see innocent animals harmed but this is maybe a slightly naive and emotional comment lacking in proof, context or even degree. Police horses have no place in close proximity to people in public protests, which are after all a human right.

    A peaceful protest yes, as this one seems to have been. But I’ve got no problem with mounted police being used where a so-called “protest” is a violent riot, and any rioter who harms a police horse in those circumstances ought to be tied to a grating and flogged to within an inch of their life.

  182. No, not ended. Superpowers must be in play.

  183. calli

    Do I get the last word?

    Here it is…

    Freedom! 😁

  184. thefrollickingmole

    Calli breaks the code.

    They have not advised Victoria police of any suspicious activity related to these transactions.

    I thought AUSTRAC’s job was notification, not investigation. What exactly entails “suspicious activity”? Amounts paid under the notification amount would go undetected.

    https://www.austrac.gov.au/about-us/austrac-overview

  185. m0nty whistling past the graveyard I see.

    Bit harsh, but a fair assessment of the Trump campaign.

  186. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    ‘Raelene “the Goth” Castle returns permanently to NZ’

    covfefe

  187. gafa

    But I’ve got no problem with mounted police being used where a so-called “protest” is a violent riot

    Sorry but no, that’s why you have riot police and water cannons. Don’t submit innocent animals who have no say in the matter to potential harm.

  188. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The comments in the Oz are 99.5% against the Oz’s ‘expert’ commentators, btw, running into the hundreds now, and I did get two other comments up, so you win some etc.

    However, these journalists are following the meme they have created and are saying only what many Australians, who get their news only from the MSM, would expect them to say against the ogre Trump.

    Reap as ye shall sow. More and more informed and sensible people, readers of the Australian and who also read elsewhere, are getting fed up with them though.

  189. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    monster are you going to put your money where your mouth is, or just gasbag?

  190. rickw

    I think its time to defund the Victorian police.

    I think it’s time to disband Victorian Police, and hand the job over to civilian contractors.

    Yep: A2A => CCW will get it done!

    “We don’t have any need for investigations because in the commission of a crime, they are either apprehended or dead!”

  191. OldOzzie

    gafa
    #3630188, posted on October 23, 2020 at 5:57 pm

    By the way any suggestions for a good movie to watch tonight? Not sure I really want to watch Borat’s latest offering but may have to just for educational purposes.

    Lost in Austen – 4 episodes

    or

    if you have BBC catch up Belgravia – 6 episodes

  192. Tim Neilson

    Sorry but no, that’s why you have riot police and water cannons. Don’t submit innocent animals who have no say in the matter to potential harm.

    OK, yes, fair comment.
    (As long as there are batons, tear gas and rubber bullets as well.)

  193. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Oh dear, I am fergettin me olde English – ‘as Jonesy was wont to intone’ not ‘want’.

    Shouldn’t read back or you find your own mistakes. 😀

  194. rickw

    The horses were deployed to intimidate. No other reason.

    I think we need mounted protests!

  195. Rex Mango

    File under ABC Beyond Parody

    Just listened to ABC RN Download this Show & if you click on link below, from 12:47 min mark the three ‘experts’ (including a Newscorp journo) discuss Twitter/Facebook censoring the NY Post Hunter Biden laptop story. First they are very careful to couch the story as unproven allegations, then they all conclude the non-coverage was merely the result of Twitter/Facebook’s new policy to not post material that has been hacked, so they were doing the right thing & nothing to do with politics:

    https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/downloadthisshow/is-apple-quietly-killing-your-phone/12799096

  196. calli

    I think we need mounted protests!

    Bring back the joust!

  197. Bruce of Newcastle

    m0nty whistling past the graveyard I see

    Collecting mail-in votes for the Democrats?

  198. rickw

    Ugly scuffles broke out between the police mounted brigade and the protesers on Princes Bridge.

    Should have had a BLM front end to confuse the fuck out of the Vikpol cretins.

  199. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    BBC catch up Belgravia – 6 episodes

    Yes, it was quite good when it comes down to it. We are watching it through for the second time (we often do that with faves) and you see more of the detail and the skill of the telling by then, when you have the storylne down pat already. It’s about the rise of the new property bourgeoisie in the early Victorian period and mingling with the old aristos, melding their bloodlines even although frowned upon, natch. Anyone who read my Quadrant review of ‘The Husband Hunters’ would be aware of how by the late C19th this had turned into the American sale of brides to Britain in the ‘Cash for Coronets’ period 1885 to circa 1906 during the great days of the American super-wealthy, transatlantic travel and aristos broke by a downturn in the rural economy on which they relied for cash.

  200. rickw

    I think we need mounted protests!

    Bring back the joust!

    That would be a lot of fun with Vikpol! Another angry lesbian that can’t ride on their arse!

  201. Arnost

    So let that sink in for a moment.
    A massive case of perversion of justice which resulted in the imprisonment of an innocent chap (7-0 be upon him) and they are uninterested in doing much about it.

    This is disgusting. Obviously WAY to dangerous to look into it as all of a sudden it becomes FOI accessible (or as a last resort accessible to Parliament)

  202. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I suppose it’s already been noted here, but to reiterate, Biden claimed he has ‘never received money from foreign interests’. Not saying anything about receiving money from family and familial interests though.

    Choice of words. Always important legally.
    Ask Bill Clinton. 🙂

  203. rickw

    Old Ozzie,

    Distinct lack of blacksmithing in the advert, what’s going on?!

  204. notafan

    Calli all amounts over 1 cent transferred internationally are reported.

    Suspicious transactions are reported by banks etc to Australia then passed on to various agencies
    I don’t know how much data analysis austrac do but other agencies can access austrac data and do their own analysis.

  205. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    And in other news, Hairy and I are very pleased to announce the birth of a second grandson today in Queensland. I sent some flowers, and of course got completely sucked in by the online system – took a top boxed presentation, then popped a Teddy Bear into the mix, and a nice card, and a next day delivery, and there you go, around two hundred bucks pops up on the screen.

    Cheap at the price, says Hairy, who does not have my parsimonious approach to life’s funds.
    Nothing too good for a grandson, of course. Especially as we can’t even get to see him yet in Qld.
    Including his step-grandson, the 17 year old from my first marriage, who needed clobber for his formal.

  206. Rex Anger

    If horsemen are going to be used to quell riotousness, then they go with sabres drawn.

    At the time of the surrender of Damascus on 1 October 1918, the 10th Australian Light Horse (WA) had taken the city. In the name of poliics, T.E.Lawrence (of Arabia) and his Arab column were to be gifted the ‘honour’ of occupying the city first.

    10ALH were ordered out to contimue their pursiot of the Ottoman Army, and Lawrence and Prince Faisal’s troops came in. The Arabs caused such pandemonium in the streets, that on October 2nd, General Harry Chauvel of the Australian Mounted Division felt a need to march his entire command through the city in order to calm everything down.

    The Light Horsemen, Indian and French Cavalry, British Yeomanry and Horse Artillery.all moved through the city at a slow walk, with sabres drawn.

    The bullshit and unrest stopped right there and then.

  207. calli

    I cannae help meself.

    His broad clear brow in sunlight glow’d;
    On burnish’d hooves his war-horse trode;
    From underneath his helmet flow’d
    His coal-black curls as on he rode,
    As he rode down from Camelot.
    From the bank and from the river
    He flash’d into the crystal mirror,
    ‘Tirra lirra, tirra lirra:’
    Sang Sir Lancelot.

    “Tirra lirra” by the Yarra, sang Sir Lancelot.

  208. Herodotus

    Thanks Calli, as always.
    I’m getting very sick of Jack Thompson murdering a stanza of Dorothea’s lovely poem in a woolworths advert.

  209. calli

    I was thinking of monies disbursed within Australia, nota.

    Unless things have changed it was >$10k.

  210. rickw

    So if we’re allowed protest, what exactly is the line of Vikpol cockheads doing?

  211. OldOzzie

    rickw
    #3630243, posted on October 23, 2020 at 6:32 pm
    Old Ozzie,

    Distinct lack of blacksmithing in the advert, what’s going on?!

    From memory there is a blacksmith demonstrating at the St Ives Faire

  212. Herodotus

    File under ABC Beyond Parody
    Yes, as usual, “nothing to see here”.

  213. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    At the time of the surrender of Damascus on 1 October 1918, the 10th Australian Light Horse (WA) had taken the city.

    10th Light Horse – still an active unit today – known to the irreverent as “Tin Ponies.”

  214. Fat Tony

    rickw
    #3630223, posted on October 23, 2020 at 6:16 pm
    The horses were deployed to intimidate. No other reason.
    I think we need mounted protests!

    Surely you joust!!

  215. Rex Anger

    10th Light Horse – still an active unit today – known to the irreverent as “Tin Ponies.”

    Damn right!

    And recently returned to full Regimental status, as far as I am aware.

    Good lads. The lot of them.

  216. Delta A

    And in other news, Hairy and I are very pleased to announce the birth of a second grandson

    Congratulations.

    Hope you manage to see the new one soon.

  217. rickw

    This has got the striking police horse incident in them. If they wanted to do something they should have ran on mass toward the horses making lots of noise and whirling their jackets. Vikpol arseholes on their arses on the bridge.

  218. gafa

    OldOzzie
    #3630219, posted on October 23, 2020 at 6:13 pm

    Thanks a lot, that’s the entertainment sorted tonight and wife approves 👍. Apricot chicken, special mixed vegie cream oven bake, fresh scones to come, hey, anytime is good for oven fresh scones jam and whipped cream.

    Tim Neilson
    #3630220, posted on October 23, 2020 at 6:14 pm
    (As long as there are batons, tear gas and rubber bullets as well.)

    Hehe, fair comment, almost goes without saying in certain such cases 🙂

  219. OldOzzie

    Congrats Lizzie and Hairy on new GrandSon

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