Monday Forum: October 19, 2020

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  1. BrettW

    A good post from the Oz today.

    “I have just signed up for an Online diploma course in convenient memory loss. I cannot recall who told me about it or which University is offering the course, but it does guarantee employment in a senior government position in Victoria should I graduate”.

  2. Pew reckons the margin of error on the polls is about +-6%.

    In other words, they’re all trash.

  3. cohenite

    FMD, wray and the fbi had hunter’s laptop during Trump’s impeachment, which would have completely vindicated him.

  4. Cassie of Sydney

    “feelthebern
    #3626412, posted on October 20, 2020 at 9:06 pm
    Paul Murray has a heart breaking story on right now.”

    Am watching it too. As for Deb Freckleface…she’s a coward and a lightweight and doesn’t she deserve to win in two weeks. She won’t anyway.

  5. Boambee John

    Leigh Lowe
    #3626416, posted on October 20, 2020 at 9:08 pm
    feelthebern

    #3626414, posted on October 20, 2020 at 9:07 pm

    How come the new billion dollar plus hospital in Adelaide doesn’t have a cardiac unit for babies?

    But, but … it has world’s best carbon footprint and recycling practices.

    IIRC, it also had a major environmental issue soon after opening, Something about lead-acid batteries in the basement?

  6. Whether you look at nationwide polls or surveys of likely swing states, Joe Biden is comfortably ahead of Donald Trump.

    US polling guru Nate Silver’s FiveThirtyEight model currently gives Biden an 85% chance of winning.

    LOL

    No one really knows.

  7. notafan

    While enjoying chaos and misery.

    I hear you.

  8. Bruce of Newcastle

    If Biden does win, at least we had four years of Trump before the four horsemen

    Funny you say that Arky as I read this one today.

    How Close Is the U.S. to Civil War? A War Correspondent Is in Portland to Find Out (16 Oct)

    A native Floridian and former Green Beret, Yon has been to 75 countries around the world to document popular unrest and civil wars. He was embedded as a journalist in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and claims to have predicted the civil war in Iraq while most people called him crazy.

    In an interview with PJ Media, Yon says what he sees happening in America has him deeply troubled. He talked about the chances of all-out civil war, the Balkanization of the United States, and how difficult it will be to hold it all together as we approach the most tumultuous election in US history.

    In the interview, Yon noted that, in his experience, pandemic, war, and famine almost always appear together in one order or another. Drawing on his Green Beret training and his experience covering these kinds of uprisings, he says he thought early on that COVID-19 could be a catalyst for unrest. “Let me say where I come from on this since I study war so much,” Yon said. “If you have a big war, you’ll always have pandemic and famine. If you have a big famine, you’ll have pandemic. It’s like the Devil’s Triangle. If you get a big one, you’ll get the other two every time. So in ways that are unpredictable, it always happens. You roll the bowling ball, eventually it’s hitting something.”

    The guy has been traipsing around in the backlots of humanity a fair while. He seems to know all the horsepersons by sight.

  9. notafan

    We had Dan talking about deaths of people in their 90s as a tragedy.

    Four newborns?

    Crickets

  10. calli

    George Custer stole the table that the surrender had been signed on.

    True.

    I saw it at the Alamo. He damaged it, the bugger.

  11. stackja

    calli – US Grant kept at RE Lee. Sheridan cavalry raided Lee supply lines. And WT Sherman supported to the South. RE Lee was surrounded.

  12. Arky

    “If you have a big war, you’ll always have pandemic and famine. If you have a big famine, you’ll have pandemic. It’s like the Devil’s Triangle.

    ..
    Yep.
    I think we are well overdue too.

  13. Tel

    Why are we only hearing about this Adelaide back water hospital now?

    Third most expensive building in the world.

    When they finish paying off the mortgage on that lot … they will go and start hiring some doctors to go inside.

  14. Knuckle Dragger

    The Tiser:

    ‘Dr Svigos, an obstetrician and gynaecologist since 1970, has not worked at the WCH for two years but is convener of the WCH Alliance, formed after 215 WCH doctors signed a letter warning of the impact of lack of resources.

    ‘He also told the hearing of other concerns including:

    CHILDREN’S cancer services being “critically understaffed and under-resourced.
    THE need for $12.3m to replace outdated equipment but only $800,000 available a year for two years;
    THE Special Care Birthing Unit being empty since it opened on August 14 due to staffing issues although it starting accepting babies from Monday;
    PAYING consultants KPMG up to $3m to deal with a $8m budget overrun which is being done by reducing nurses’ hours which he described as “beyond comprehension”;
    LACK of consultation with clinicians on the new WCH despite assurances by the state government of such consultation.

    ‘He agreed with committee chairwoman Connie Bonaros that it appeared “the budget is being put ahead of children’s lives.”’

    Indefensible.

  15. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3626419, posted on October 20, 2020 at 9:10 pm

    The Hun:

    ‘The bosses of seven of Australia’s biggest employers are demanding Daniel Andrews let Victorians get back to work.

    ‘In an open letter, the leaders of Wesfarmers, Coca-Cola Amatil, BHP, the Commonwealth Bank, Orica, Newcrest Mining and Incitec Pivot …

    I reckon CSL is the canary in the coalmine in Melbourne.
    The Chairman and CEO have both had a crack at Dan Xi-Man.
    Now, I don’t think they are going to fold their tent and move out of Melbourne tomorrow, but they won’t be committing to an expansion here, and will probably look at a staged divestment out of Melbourne.
    Why the hell would you leave all your _eggs in that basket.

  16. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I saw it at the Alamo. He damaged it, the bugger.

    Seriously Calli – true story. Stole the table, and sent it home to his wife as a souvenir.

  17. feelthebern

    I get it the WCH is old & might not be up to scratch.
    But what the fuck is wrong with SA that they didn’t fill that gap when they built the gazillion new hospital.
    FMD.

  18. Someone’s optimistic:

    Jeff Kennett @jeff_kennett

    Get ready for change at the top!

    7:28 PM · Oct 19, 2020 from Melbourne, Victoria

  19. If Richmond win the flag, do you think Plod will dare confront them down Punt Road? Methinks not.

  20. dover_beach

    Reports are the early voting in Penn and Florida are looking good for Trump.

  21. Leigh Lowe

    IIRC, it also had a major environmental issue soon after opening, Something about lead-acid batteries in the basement?

    BJ, they also had a cock-up with the hot water.
    The “sustainable” boiler couldn’t deliver hot water to the far reaches of the hospital (probably because they used inrfective green pipe lagging as well I guess).
    The solution was to instal a bunch of in-line gas HWS boosters.
    But they went to great lengths to hide the “dirty fuel” hot water.
    Just one example of the myopic focus on anything but patients.

  22. Leigh Lowe

    calli

    #3626434, posted on October 20, 2020 at 9:19 pm

    George Custer stole the table that the surrender had been signed on.

    True.

    I saw it at the Alamo. He damaged it, the bugger

    Shortened the legs for a conversation pit coffee table?

  23. Infidel Tiger

    Reports are the early voting in Penn and Florida are looking good for Trump.

    I’m worried about the late voting now that Bush’s SCOTUS pick has signalled the election is able to be stolen.

  24. JC

    Dover

    Penn is a real serious problem after the case. They’ll stuff the ballots with what they need after the Election Day.

  25. Leigh Lowe

    PAYING consultants KPMG up to $3m to deal with a $8m budget overrun which is being done by reducing nurses’ hours which he described as “beyond comprehension”;

    So management can’t figure out that less nurses equals a budget saving without throwing $3 meg at KPMG?

  26. Old School Conservative

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3626420, posted on October 20, 2020 at 9:10 pm
    The defeated Confederate Army was allowed to give their parole and go home, any man who claimed ownership of a horse or mule was allowed to take the animal with him, to put in a crop, and Grant sent 25,000 rations into the Confederate lines

    Or as the great philosopher Johnny Horton sang,
    When Honest Abe heard the news about your fall
    The folks thought he’d call a great vict’ry ball
    But he asked the band to play the song Dixie
    For you, Johnny Reb, and all that you believe

    ‘Cause you fought all the way
    Johnny Reb, Johnny Reb
    Yeah, you fought all the way, Johnny Reb

  27. BrettW

    Will be the best resignation press conference ever. Friday evening before the Grand Final ? Completely out of Parliament ?

    “Someone’s optimistic:

    Jeff Kennett @jeff_kennett

    Get ready for change at the top!

    7:28 PM · Oct 19, 2020 from Melbourne, Victoria”

  28. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #3626443, posted on October 20, 2020 at 9:26 pm

    I get it the WCH is old & might not be up to scratch.
    But what the fuck is wrong with SA that they didn’t fill that gap when they built the gazillion new hospital.
    FMD.

    It was a political vanity project.

  29. BrettW

    Somebody earlier posted something from a US poll showing Biden winning. But the same poll showed Trump had 40% Black support. Traditionally it has been 10%.

    Sounds like a reliable poll. This is why any Black supporting Trump is attacked for being an Uncle Tom.

  30. Oh come on

    And yes, I think the Chinese are in the process of biting off far more than they can chew by setting themselves up as strategic rivals of countries such as the US, Japan and India – as well as all of the lower order Pacific powers such as Australia, South Korea and the non-shithole ASEAN countries, excepting perhaps Indonesia, . China’s sole natural ally is Pakistan, for what that’s worth (nothing). Russia stands to lose a great deal if China came to overwhelmingly dominate the region, but it would also like China to become powerful enough to displace the US and weaken its alliances with other Pacific powers. Over time, I think Russia would prove to be at best a fair weather friend of China, and it’s easy to envisage scenarios whereby China’s and Russia’s interests diverge wildly.

    It’s possible the Chinese state under Xi has simply made a colossal strategic miscalculation with regard to its foreign policy. There may also be internal factors that explain its actions, too. In any case, I can’t see how China outgrows and outguns all of the significant Indo-Pacific powers that are potential rivals and prevents them from entering into an Indo-Pacific version of NATO which aims to contain China. China vs that alliance can’t win.

  31. Top Ender

    The Frank Walker I knew was a first-class clown who wrote an appalling book (and a follow up) which misled a lot of people:

    https://books.google.com.au/books/about/HMAS_Armidale.html?id=MN18PQAACAAJ&redir_esc=y

  32. Boambee John

    Russia stands to lose a great deal if China came to overwhelmingly dominate the region,

    Siberia east of Lake Baikal? Vladivostok alone would mightily p1ss Putin off, let alone the rest.

  33. Zatara

    Reports are the early voting in Penn and Florida are looking good for Trump.

    Take those reports with a grain of salt. At this point they only indicate how many registered voters of whatever party voted, not who they voted for.

    I suspect there are going to be a few crossover voter surprises.

  34. stackja

    Both US Grant and WT Sherman were unhappy with the then Northern MSM.

  35. Oh come on

    Poor m0nty. He’s oscillating between giddy triumphalism:

    Whether you look at nationwide polls or surveys of likely swing states, Joe Biden is comfortably ahead of Donald Trump.

    US polling guru Nate Silver’s FiveThirtyEight model currently gives Biden an 85% chance of winning.

    …and dark, paranoid musings about fascist coups.

    The toll on his mental health must be appalling.

  36. min

    This may explain at it all. A fellow who claims he was at school with Dan said they used to lock him the toilet cubicle and throw cups of urine over him . Now we all are suffering his vengeance and hatred .

  37. Tel

    China’s sole natural ally is Pakistan, for what that’s worth (nothing).

    Possibly Mongolia … but they also would prefer a balance of power between China and Russia, instead of all China. Could be North Korea would stand beside China if push came to shove, but dunno if that’s a big deal. The South Koreans would probably ally with Japan. Iran might be pushed into supporting China, since there isn’t anywhere else they can go.

  38. Siltstone

    Adelaide hospital and other public spending sprees like tunnels, bridges and freeways is first and foremost about extravagant wages for union mates, public utility comes way down the list.

  39. dover_beach

    Take those reports with a grain of salt. At this point they only indicate how many registered voters of whatever party voted, not who they voted for.

    I suspect there are going to be a few crossover voter surprises.

    Sure, but the R is more solid than the D, I wager.

  40. Siltstone

    Tel, the Mongolians hate the Chinese guts.
    Mongolians stand up for themselves. Tough as nails!

  41. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Or as the great philosopher Johnny Horton sang,

    Thank you, O.S.C.

  42. Gab

    Andrews will be onto this like a fly on a dungheap.

    https://www.clearnewswire.com/466800.html

    Bill Gates and MIT unveil quantum dot technology to mark children’s skin so they can be scanned for vaccine compliance

  43. Perhaps Peta could smuggle a bottle of Mountain Dew and a disposable cup into the next press conference…

  44. Top Ender

    The version where Grant was drunk at Appomattox was much better.

    I will have a look for it.

    Changed the course of the American Civil War forever, you know. As General Lee found out.

  45. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Bill Gates and MIT unveil quantum dot technology to mark children’s skin so they can be scanned for vaccine compliance

    wtf?????

  46. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Mongolians stand up for themselves. Tough as nails!’

    My word they’re tough as nails. Like their beef.

    The Mongolians once said ‘Look, you weedy little bat chewing fruits, we like this beef so much we’re claiming it. It’s Mongolian beef now. We’ll let you serve it in the shitfights you call Chinese restaurants BUT you must call it Mongolian beef. Don’t make us come down there.’

    2.5 billion Chinese: ‘Okay’.

  47. Leigh Lowe

    So, Tel, China’s allies could boil down to the Pakis, the Mad Mullahs and the Norks?
    Hardly the A-Team.

  48. Top Ender

    If Grant had been drinking at Appomattox – James Thurber

    The morning of the ninth of April, 1865, dawned beautifully. General Meade was up with the first streaks of crimson in the sky. General Hooker and General Burnside were up and had breakfasted, by a quarter after eight. The day continued beautiful. It drew on toward eleven o’clock. General Ulysses S. Grant was still not up. He was asleep in his famous old navy hammock, swung high above the floor of his headquarters’ bedroom. Headquarters was distressingly disarranged: papers were strewn on the floor; confidential notes from spies scurried here and there in the breeze from an open window; the dregs of an overturned bottle of wine flowed pinkly across an important military map.

    Corporal Shultz, of the Sixty-fifth Ohio Volunteer Infantry, aide to General Grant, came into the outer room, looked around him, and sighed. He entered the bedroom and shook the General’s hammock roughly. General Ulysses S. Grant opened one eye.

    “Pardon, sir,” said Corporal Shultz, “but this is the day of surrender. You ought to be up, sir.”

    “Don’t swing me,” said Grant, sharply, for his aide was making the hammock sway gently. “I feel terrible,” he added, and he turned over and closed his eye again.

    “General Lee will be here any minute now,” said the Corporal firmly, swinging the hammock again.

    “Will you cut that out?” roared Grant. “D’ya want to make me sick, or what?” Shultz clicked his heels and saluted. “What’s he coming here for?” asked the General.

    “This is the day of surrender, sir,” said Shultz. Grant grunted bitterly.

    “Three hundred and fifty generals in the Northern armies,” said Grant, “and he has to come to me about this. What time is it?”

    “You’re the Commander-in-Chief, that’s why,” said Corporal Shultz. “It’s eleven twenty, sir.”

    “Don’t be crazy,” said Grant. “Lincoln is the Commander-in-Chief. Nobody in the history of the world ever surrendered before lunch. Doesn’t he know that an army surrenders on its stomach?” He pulled a blanket up over his head and settled himself again.

    “The generals of the Confederacy will be here any minute now,” said the Corporal. “You really ought to be up, sir.” Grant stretched his arms above his head and yawned. “All right, all right,” he said. He rose to a sitting position and stared about the room. “This place looks awful,” he growled.

    “You must have had quite a time of it last night, sir,” ventured Shultz. “Yeh,” said General Grant, looking around for his clothes. “I was wrassling some general. Some general with a beard.”

    Shultz helped the commander of the Northern armies in the field to find his clothes. “Where’s my other sock?” demanded Grant. Shultz began to look around for it. The General walked uncertainly to a table and poured a drink from a bottle. “I don’t think it wise to drink, sir,” said Shultz. Nev’ mind about me,” said Grant, helping himself to a second, “I can take it or let it alone. Didn’ ya ever hear the story about the fella went to Lincoln to complain about me drinking too much? ‘So-and-So says Grant drinks too much,’ this fella said. ‘So-and-So is a fool,’ said Lincoln. So this fella went to What’s-His-Name and told him what Lincoln said and he came roarin’ to Lincoln about it. ‘Did you tell So-and-So was a fool?’ he said. ‘No,’ said Lincoln, ‘I thought he knew it.'” The General smiled, reminiscently, and had another drink. “”That’s how I stand with Lincoln,” he said, proudly.

    The soft thudding sound of horses’ hooves came through the open window. Shultz hurriedly walked over and looked out. “Hoof steps,” said Grant, with a curious chortle. “It is General Lee and his staff,” said Shultz. “Show him in,” said the General, taking another drink. “And see what the boys in the back room will have.”

    Shultz walked smartly over to the door, opened it, saluted, and stood aside.

    General Lee, dignified against the blue of the April sky, magnificent in his dress uniform, stood for a moment framed in the doorway. He walked in, followed by his staff. They bowed, and stood silent. General Grant stared at them. He only had one boot on and his jacket was unbuttoned.

    “I know who you are,” said Grant.’You’re Robert Browning, the poet.” “This is General Robert E. Lee,” said one of his staff, coldly. “Oh,” said Grant. “I thought he was Robert Browning. He certainly looks like Robert Browning. There was a poet for you. Lee: Browning. Did ya ever read ‘How They Brought the Good News from Ghent to Aix’? ‘Up Derek, to saddle, up Derek, away; up Dunder, up Blitzen, up, Prancer, up Dancer, up Bouncer, up Vixen, up -‘”.

    “Shall we proceed at once to the matter in hand?” asked General Lee, his eyes disdainfully taking in the disordered room. “Some of the boys was wrassling here last night,” explained Grant. “I threw Sherman, or some general a whole lot like Sherman. It was pretty dark.”

    He handed a bottle of Scotch to the commanding officer of the Southern armies, who stood holding it, in amazement and discomfiture. “Get a glass, somebody,” said Grant, looking straight at General Longstreet. “Didn’t I meet you at Cold Harbor?” he asked. General Longstreet did not answer.

    “I should like to have this over with as soon as possible,” said Lee. Grant looked vaguely at Shultz, who walked up close to him, frowning.

    “The surrender, sir, the surrender,” said Corporal Shultz in a whisper.

    “Oh sure, sure,” said Grant. He took another drink. “All right,” he said. “Here we go.”

    Slowly, sadly, he unbuckled his sword. Then he handed it to the astonished Lee. “There you are. General,” said Grant. “We dam’ near licked you. If I’d been feeling better we would of licked you.”

  49. MatrixTransform

    Gonna miss Frank Walker.

    What?

    Walker has flounced?

  50. Not just kids either Gab.
    That’s all our futures.

  51. Fat Tony

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3626390, posted on October 20, 2020 at 8:52 pm
    In a word, yes.

    Yep, that’s the problem.
    Fake polls with Biden 10 pts ahead to match the 20 million fake postal ballots.
    If the Dems do this, and get caught, which must happen, we get a Ft Sumter event.
    The trouble is the Dems have to know that the Right is itching to bring out ordnance.
    So what is their secret strategy? I really don’t know.
    If they are banking on the military they are mistaken, the Obama brass would be fragged in an instant.

    Throw in a heap of civil strife in the USA – sponsored by Xi and Soros. Maybe some CCP military gear smuggled in.
    Then Xi making a move for Taiwan while this is going on. Also attacking the US Pacific Fleet.

    The result will be nothing good – but maybe it’s why the Dems aren’t too concerned about the election. They may be planning with Xi to overthrow/takeover the USA

  52. Leigh Lowe

    Siltstone

    #3626469, posted on October 20, 2020 at 9:54 pm

    Tel, the Mongolians hate the Chinese guts.

    Along with pretty much everyone who rubs borders with them and many beyond.
    It might come as a shock to Spud, but the glorious Commie victors of the V*****m war hate the Chunks with a passion.
    A friend working on contract over there says it is openly reported in all media that the Chunks started Kung Flu and, moreover, are deliberately spreading it.
    Forget whether that is fact or not.
    It is being openly reported and reflects an undercurrent of hatred and mistrust of Chunks.

  53. twostix

    I always wondered who the dumb everyman was that supported and backed the bolsheviks even after it was obvious what deranged lunatics they were.

    I mean who was he, really.

    M0nty is that man.

    See how he now sees everyone here as ‘fascists’, not off handedly and ironically, no he means it. And what does he want to do to fascists? He didn’t used to be like this. We’ve witnessed him become radicalised into dangerous extremism in real time over the last few years.

    No telling what he’ll do.

  54. duncanm

    So what’s in it for Coate and the legal eagles ?

  55. Infidel Tiger

    A UK father has been jailed after having sex with his family’s pet chickens while his wife filmed it.

    Rehan Baig, 37, was also sentenced for possessing images of child sex abuse.

    Police reportedly discovered and seized 49 images of children, with 11 in the most serious category.

    During sentencing, Judge Richard Mansell QC described the offending as “depraved, perverted and despicable”.

    He was placed on the sex offenders’ register and banned from keeping animals.

    The court was also told each of the chickens has been family pets and died during the abuse.

    His wife, Haleema Baig, was handed a six-month suspended sentence for her role.

    The court was told the mum-of-four filmed the offending on a mobile phone and Go-Pro so the couple could watch it back.

    She will be on the sex offenders’ register for seven years.

    Love is love.

  56. JC

    Stix

    Don’t over egg the omelette. Monster couldn’t hurt a guinea pig. The only time he could be dangerous is if you’re standing between him and a bundle of donuts. He’ll bowl you over in the rush.

  57. Zatara

    I suspect there are going to be a few crossover voter surprises.

    Sure, but the R is more solid than the D, I wager.

    Unquestionably. Better yet, the surveys of participants at the Trump rallies are showing heaps of Democrats and independents attending.

    President Trump’s Florida Rally: 16% of Attendees Were Democrats, 24% Didn’t Vote in 2016

    Surprise report: 20% of the audiences at Trump rallies are Democrats

    I don’t think they are there for the beer.

  58. rickw

    Mongolians stand up for themselves. Tough as nails!

    Had a Mongolian welder on one recent job, also qualified metalurgist. She was quite pretty to!

  59. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Slowly, sadly, he unbuckled his sword. Then he handed it to the astonished Lee. “There you are. General,” said Grant. “We dam’ near licked you. If I’d been feeling better we would of licked you.”

    Comedy classic, T.E!

  60. dover_beach

    Today in Liberalism:

    Conor Friedersdorf
    @conor64
    When Occam’s Razor suggests someone humiliated himself through a combo of technological error, pandemic circumstances, bad judgment, & bad luck, it seems like we should react w/ empathy, politeness, & forgiveness, as we would want to be treated, rather than punitive mockery

  61. feelthebern

    I’m still watching the 2016 coverage.
    All the networks dragged their feet calling states for Trump.
    Arizona should have been called hours earlier than it was.
    And they dragged out Pennsylvania for an hour longer than they should have too.
    The networks really are the worst.

  62. twostix

    Nah m0nty is all in JC.

    He’s been turning for a couple of years, getting deeper into that antifa stuff.

    He’s exactly the sort of low IQ antisocial dummy to get radicalised.

    You’ll hear about him in an ASIO setup and foiled plot to kidnap Scott Morrison in the future.

  63. rickw

    4 babies died.
    Adelaide doesn’t have cardiac unit for babies.
    They have to go to Melbourne.
    But they haven’t due to COVID.
    & 4 babies died.

    FMD, what’s wrong with these people?

  64. cohenite

    Wow, Kirstie Alley is a Trump supporter; and a surprisingly lucid one.

    I reckon biden has taken 4 days off before the third debate to re-oxygenate himself by a series of blood transfusions and also implants, both drug and transmitters. It is grotesque, which is why everyone should be aggressive to any idiot they come across who supports the senile old wreck.

  65. Oh come on

    Good lord Mongolia is arguably the most natural enemy of China! It is a minnow and only exists as an independent nation today because it became a de-facto part of the USSR in the early 20th century. Mongolia I think will have an important role – it will serve as a canary in the coalmine for China’s opponents. If China goes full fascist in that it starts gobbling up its neighbours, Mongolia will be first on the menu. China will be more than happy to possess its ample natural resources and China already unofficially regards Mongolia as a part of China (the Mongolians are extremely aware of this and also disagree, funnily enough).

    The WW2 parallels are a bit tedious but it’s hard to avoid them because they align quite well. Taking Mongolia would be the annexation of Czechoslovakia and it ought to be understood by all that the equivalent of Poland would be just around the corner, too. Get ready!

  66. Zatara

    This was a shocker, to me at least.

    Freshman Enrollment at US Universities is Down 16% This Fall

    Down 22.7% at Community Colleges.

    Sure, COVID has had an impact, but all of those schools have remote learning options now as well. So one has to wonder if they are finally waking up to the fact that they are paying for a political indoctrination vice an education.

  67. feelthebern

    Rickw, part one is they should have been let into Victoria.
    Part two, Adelaide should have the facilities needed at their brand spanking new hospital.

  68. vlad

    Occam’s Razor says that? Who knew!

  69. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #3626486, posted on October 20, 2020 at 10:15 pm

    A UK father has been jailed after having sex with his family’s pet chickens while his wife filmed it.

    Can’t wank during a Zoom meeting?
    Can’t root your own chickens?
    Honestly.
    What is the world coming to?

  70. Oh come on

    Don’t over egg the omelette. Monster couldn’t hurt a guinea pig

    Perhaps, but he does genuinely appear to be on the cusp of a mental breakdown. If Trump wins, I don’t think he’ll manage.

  71. feelthebern

    Can’t wank during a Zoom meeting?
    Can’t root your own chickens?
    Honestly.
    What is the world coming to?

    Fuck 2020.

  72. New Zealand: grow your own tobacco

    Australia: $105,000 fine or two years in the clink.

    Why do we tolerate such stupid and unnecessary tyranny?

  73. feelthebern

    Monster couldn’t hurt a guinea pig

    Unless it was covered in chocolate.

  74. vlad

    I’ve had to read that tweet about four times to make sense of it. And I see I failed last time. He’s saying Occam’s Razor suggests blah, blah, blah. It’s impossible to tell if he knows what Occam’s Razor is.

  75. Leigh Lowe

    Part two is far more critical ‘bern.
    With the exception of one in a million conditions where only one city may have specialists, the risks multiplies when you start freighting patients around.
    And we are talking heart problems as I understand which are not as rare in kids as some might think.
    A billion dollar hospital should be up for that.

  76. Oh come on

    I know the name, can’t place the guy or his significance.

  77. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    A UK father has been jailed after having sex with his family’s pet chickens while his wife filmed it.

    if only they could marry

  78. feelthebern

    Part two is far more critical ‘bern.

    100%.

  79. rickw

    Tinian and Saipan are in the Mariana island chain. They belonged to the Spanish and then the Germans before the Japanese got their hands on them in 1919 as part of the League of Nations South Seas Mandate.

    Apparently Saipan and Tinian were amongst the most dangerous deployments you could get in the Spanish Empire, one of the few places where native weapons were effective against the invaders, local skills with a sling.

    After 1919 the Japanese made substantial investments in Saipan for coffee and sugar cane production. Large Japanese population there at the start of WWII. Local guy I know there had just restarted coffee production there when most recent Typhoon KO’d the lot. Is big selling point was that the beans were from original plants and original variety. I brought some back and barista types I knew rated it, but then Typhoon hit.

  80. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #3626493, posted on October 20, 2020 at 10:24 pm

    I’m still watching the 2016 coverage.

    How?
    Areff was here a few weeks ago looking for a particular Killing Hillary compilation and we were assured that the YouTubes had taken them all down.

  81. Lazlo

    Quite so Z. Historically, GOP registered voters stick much more than Drats. So these early signs are encouraging.

  82. Dan’s “Daily Thought Bubble”

    H/T Chris Kenny.

  83. OldOzzie

    calli
    #3626296, posted on October 20, 2020 at 8:11 pm
    My daughter just installed a shedload of ModWood decking (money no object, though like me she likes value). It’s beautiful but very expensive. Had some salt stains from pot plants – scrubbed out with a brush.

    One downside – it heats up in the sun more than conventional wood. Wear thongs or you’ll get blisters.

    calli

    Son-in-Law installed a deck in their section at the back of our place – said we were quite happy to pay for Modwood, but they wanted to pay for it – Supposedly Hardwood – bluntly [email protected] – will need redoing soon, but will probably do a bit of extension rather than redo the deck.

    As I try to tell my Son-n-Law – always pay extra for quality and avoid Chinese Crap

  84. feelthebern

    I’m streaming it from Compound Media.
    But you can still view a shit load from youtube from the networks.

  85. Leigh Lowe

    A UK father has been jailed after having sex with his family’s pet chickens while his wife filmed it.

    How does it go?
    If you use the feathers it is kinky.
    If you use the whole chicken it is perverted.
    If the chicken is frozen, you are a real sicko.

  86. feelthebern

    If you want to see Karl Rove having no idea, here’s the fox coverage.

  87. Zyconoclast

    Why are we only hearing about this Adelaide back water hospital now?

    Third most expensive building in the world.

    When they finish paying off the mortgage on that lot … they will go and start hiring some doctors to go inside.

  88. feelthebern

    Karl Rove didn’t adapt when the social media platforms arrived.
    By the time 2016 rolled around, he was jurassic.

  89. Mark A

    Boambee John
    #3626428, posted on October 20, 2020 at 9:14 pm

    IIRC, it also had a major environmental issue soon after opening, Something about lead-acid batteries in the basement?

    Watersupply of all things, back to Roman times.

  90. rickw

    Here’s the coffee, believe it or not Chuck is Bob Denver’s nephew…. lives on a tropical island:

    https://www.marianascoffee.com/

  91. Davey Boy

    Someone earlier in the OT was asking about Tim Siuthpossumarse as they hadn’t heard from him for a while – here he is trying to compare/contrast Tony Abbott working as an advisor to the UK, with CCP sympathisers in Australia:

    As we know, certain senators have been content to question the national loyalty of Chinese-Australians, because of their Chinese background. So what do they have to say about Australians who actually work for a foreign power?

    Mr Tim sure is is one sour and confused member of the Abbott-hater club

  92. Leigh Lowe

    Only joking ‘bern.
    Areff was specifically looking for a compilation set to the “Hall of The Mountain King” music.
    We found about three which fitted that description alone, immediately after someone had assured us the Youtubes had censored all Killing Hillary vids.
    There are literally hundreds.

  93. vlad

    Well, I found out that Conor Friedersdorf is the sort of dumb person who thinks using the phrase “Occam’s Razor” in a tweet makes him sound more intelligent.

    And with that, good night!

  94. Steve trickler

    Credit to his voice at 60. I can’t remember the last time I have this heard song?

    [Scratching head]



  95. egg_

    HiLux 4×2 WorkMate

    c/- Toyota Australia

    Oh noes! MaRcUs AdOnIs

    Poor man’s Gargooglary.

  96. Oh come on

    If you have 30 minutes to kill, this is some really interesting and enlightening legal analysis of the legislation that protects big tech from defamation laws, the history of the relevant statute, why it was enacted, (the Wolf of Wall St dude played a big part!) and how it was repurposed to mean what it means today and what the significance is of Clarence Thomas’s recent non-binding ruling on it is.

    Oh, it also goes into how Libertarian Inc is owned by the Koch brothers and Silicone Valley.

  97. rickw

    One downside – it heats up in the sun more than conventional wood. Wear thongs or you’ll get blisters.

    Bundalong Tavern did their outdoor area with it, looks good, very clean, but really gets hot, likely walking across a skillet if it’s been a hot day.

  98. feelthebern

    Hillary didn’t even have the dignity to thank her supporters on the night.
    Zero class.

  99. Lazlo

    He was just trying to get his oats zippy.

  100. OldOzzie

    The Morning Briefing: Where Are All of These People We’re Told Are Voting for Creepy Joe Biden?

    In Search of the Invisible Biden Voter
    Happy Taco Tuesday, my Kruiser Morning Briefing friends. Let’s begin with some light stretching.

    We are two weeks away from what used to be called “Election Day.” Early voting and vote-by-mail have rendered the idea rather meaningless. In fact, this election may actually go no longer than the interminably long campaign did. We’re still calling it “Election Day” for now though. We can rename it after this one ends some time next January.

    I have been reassessing my thoughts and gut feelings about this election almost daily. Most of my friends and colleagues are very confident about Trump’s chances. I often leave conversations with them feeling buoyed for a short time, then quickly begin thinking that I would like some of whatever it is they’re smoking.

    s you are all no doubt aware by now, I tend to be dark so this Village Pessimist role comes naturally to me.

    HAVING WRITTEN ALL THAT…

    I am still trying to find any evidence that the stories being told by the polls are true. I see Trump drawing crowds again and being energized. He was here in Tucson yesterday and drew a great crowd at an annoying time of day and for just a quickie stop.

    Then I see Joe Biden…nowhere. Stacey wrote yesterday that Sleepy Joe is back in the basement until after the debate. We can’t really believe he’s doing prep all of that time. He knows he’s not going to be asked any difficult questions. He didn’t directly answer even one question in the first debate. No, he’s merely avoiding campaigning.

    When he does campaign, the throngs who are telling pollsters that they’re Team Gropes aren’t there. Our friends at the Babylon Bee perfectly lampooned this:

    The people I know who are voting for Trump are fond of saying that they would crawl over broken glass to do so.

    That to me is a perfect snapshot of why I might want to hold off on chugging Jameson and Tramadol for just a bit longer.

    I see Trump people in the streets. I don’t see Biden people. This may be inexact, but so is polling.

    I feel better already and I’m totally sober.

    Oh, I need to tell my friends to stop promising to crawl over broken glass to vote because the Democrats will totally try and make us do that going forward if they win.

  101. Helen

    Just like the twin died because chook wouldn’t let mum into Qld.

    They should be charged and tried with manslaughter.

    Thanks LL and callie, I will give it a miss. Hot enough with out super hot.

  102. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #3626532, posted on October 20, 2020 at 10:45 pm

    Hillary didn’t even have the dignity to thank her supporters on the night.
    Zero class.

    Reports are that they only thing holding her up at the end was the pile of Gin bottles stacked up around her.

  103. Throw in a heap of civil strife in the USA – sponsored by Xi and Soros. Maybe some CCP military gear smuggled in.
    Then Xi making a move for Taiwan while this is going on. Also attacking the US Pacific Fleet.

    The result will be nothing good – but maybe it’s why the Dems aren’t too concerned about the election. They may be planning with Xi to overthrow/takeover the USA

    This is what I am talking about. Whipping yourselves into hysterics over Jade Helm conspiracy theories to justify your later embrace of whatever cockamamie scheme Trump tries to steal the election. Fantasies about wingnut armed insurrection are just pathetic.

  104. thefrollickingmole

    I’m sure Monty can explain the magical process where personally voting in a verifiable manner would favour Trump. But somehow mail in crap would skew so much in favour of Slow Hand Joe as to reverse that.
    What could be the source of such magical alchemy??

  105. duncanm

    Covid 2020

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiBKEFgOUzs

    there’s many funny scenes in this movie (Korean horror/comedy, “The Host”). One fleeting snippit involves the main character in a mobile army hospital about to get some brain tissue samples removed (by force). by the government.

    All the doctors are standing around peering into the room gasbagging until they see the big-wigs coming, at which point they quickly turn on the x-ray illumination boards and other machines and look studiously busy. Reminds me of the Monty Python machines that go “ping”.

  106. Leigh Lowe

    rickw

    #3626487, posted on October 20, 2020 at 10:16 pm

    The first 20 seconds of that was Alan Jones at his best.
    I really insist that everyone here watch it.

  107. OldOzzie

    Trivia for the Night

    “one recipient of both the VC and the Iron Cross”

    Surgeon General William George Nicholas Manley, VC, CB (17 December 1831 – 16 November 1901) was a British Army officer, surgeon and a recipient of the Victoria Cross, the highest award for gallantry in the face of the enemy that can be awarded to British and Commonwealth forces. He received awards from several other countries, and is the only person to have been awarded both the VC and the Iron Cross.

  108. Zyconoclast

    A UK father has been jailed after having sex with his family’s pet chickens while his wife filmed it.

    From 1:40

  109. Arky

    It’s not a conspiracy theory you great big stupid arsehole. The CCP itself states it’s purpose is to take Taiwan.

  110. rickw

    So very far off the plantation:

  111. Leigh Lowe

    He received awards from several other countries, and is the only person to have been awarded both the VC and the Iron Cross.

    No biggy.
    Three blokes at our local RSL have the VC and Iron Cross.
    One local also has an Order of Lenin but he doesn’t darken the door of the RSL.

  112. OldOzzie

    Victorian Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton’s explosive email kept secret

    Ewin Hannan Workplace Editor – Remy Varga Reporter

    Victorian Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton instructed lawyers to withhold from the state’s hotel quarantine inquiry a critical email that appears to contradict his sworn evidence that he was not told about the use of private security guards until months after the scheme began.

    Professor Sutton’s bid to keep the email secret was revealed after the inquiry headed by former judge Jennifer Coate held a special hearing on Tuesday and released its correspondence with lawyers acting for the Department of Health and Human Services.

    The inquiry is considering who engaged private security guards for the hotel quarantine program in late March instead of using police and Australian Defence Force officers, a decision now seen as a catalyst for allowing the coronavirus to escape and spread across Melbourne.

    It has asked for Professor Sutton and other bureaucrats involved in the scheme to clarify their earlier evidence. The Herald Sun reported that Premier Daniel Andrews was among “certain parties” ordered by the inquiry to make another sworn statement.

    In a letter sent to the inquiry on Monday, DHHS lawyers said an employee raised concerns some relevant emails had not been given to the investigation on September 28. Those emails, sent on March 27, show Professor Sutton in an exchange with commonwealth officials during which the use of private security is discussed.

    Despite this, Professor Sutton told the lawyers he stood by his previous evidence that he was not aware of the use of private security until media reports in May. The department’s lawyers said Professor Sutton had instructed them that he did not need to clarify his evidence because he did not read the details of the emails and so they did not need to be provided.

    “Professor Sutton further instructed us that he did not consider he needed to clarify his evidence and therefore the email did not need to be provided to the Board for that reason,” the email from the DHHS to the inquiry said.

    The DHHS was still considering whether “anything further needed to be done” when the inquiry -requested those emails be produced last Thursday.

    The March 27 email chain now tabled to the inquiry shows a Department of Home Affairs official, Sandra Jeffery, asking Professor Sutton to provide details of quarantine arrangements in Victoria, including security arrangements.

    Professor Sutton asked DHHS deputy director strategy and policy, Braedan Hogan, to respond and copy him in. Mr Hogan told Ms Jeffery that “private security is being contracted to provide security at the hotels with escalation arrangements to (Victoria Police) as needed”.

    Professor Sutton acknowledged receipt of the email with the words: “thanks so much, Braedan”.

    He had previously given evidence to the inquiry that he was unaware of the use of private security at hotels until he saw media reports about the outbreak at the Rydges Hotel in May.

    The inquiry has heard that almost all of Victoria’s second COVID-19 wave could be linked to quarantined travellers at the Rydges and Stamford Plaza.

    Tony Neal QC, counsel assisting the inquiry, said Professor Sutton would be asked to provide an affidavit responding to questions about the emails.

    Answers would also be sought from Professor Sutton and DHHS secretary Kym Peake about a six-page email chain between DHHS officials, including an April 1 email by a senior bureaucrat headed: “Information — Chain of Command – people in detention”.

    Finn Romanes, the deputy public health commander in charge of planning at the time, wrote that “all policy and oversight of people in detention is being handled in a strict chain of command” headed by Professor Sutton. “It is important that all direction, policy, reporting and arrangements do not break this chain,” he wrote.

    On March 27, the Department of Jobs, Precincts and Regions was told it would be the lead ¬agency for the quarantine program. This led to a frantic night of work by departmental staff sourcing security and the signing of contracts with private security. As early as the next day, DHHS assumed the lead role, but Ms Peake subsequently maintained that the quarantine program was a joint operation with shared accountability between the two departments.

    Jobs Minister Martin Pakula insisted DHHS became the lead agency, and Mr Andrews said then health minister Jenny Mikakos was accountable for the program. She and Department of Premier and Cabinet secretary Chris Eccles have both resigned.

    Mr Neal said the email might add “some weight” to deliberations as to who was in charge of the scheme.

    Mr Eccles will be asked to provide a further affidavit to the inquiry after phone records showed he spoke to the then Victoria Police chief Graham Ashton for 135 seconds in a pivotal six-minute window during the planning of hotel quarantine. Mr Ashton will also be asked to answer new questions put by the inquiry.

    Ms Coate said that, “most unfortunately”, the new development might unsettle the due date for the inquiry’s report. However, she said she was unable to be clear about whether the timetable would change as she did not yet have the material.

    The inquiry could recall witnesses, although Mr Neal said it “must be emphasised that the relevant parties are being asked to address novel material not the subject of previous evidence”.

    “There is no basis for inferring or speculating that any view has yet been formed about the veracity or otherwise of evidence previously given by any parties on the topic of engagement of private security,” he said.

    Melbourne is poised to have public health restrictions wound back next week, allowing retail and hospitality venues to reopen and residents to welcome visitors to their homes for the first time in months, as coronavirus case numbers continue to fall.

    Mr Andrews said on Tuesday he hoped to be able to bring forward to Sunday plans for further easing of restrictions that had been slated to come into effect from November 2. However, there was no chance they would be lifted in time for this Saturday’s AFL grand final featuring two Victorian teams: Richmond and Geelong. The Premier warned that police would have a heightened presence to ¬ensure people weren’t gathering in breach of current restrictions. “We’ve been very clear that we want to look at numbers as they unfold this week,” Mr Andrews said.

    There was one new COVID-19 infection reported on Tuesday, with the possibility that the real figure was zero given the case was linked to a prior infection.

  113. Oh come on

    This is what I am talking about. Whipping yourselves into hysterics over Jade Helm conspiracy theories to justify your later embrace of whatever cockamamie scheme Trump tries to steal the election.

    Let’s get a hypothetical going and say you’re absolutely right about this, m0nty. The fact still remains that we’re a bunch of semi-strangers, mostly based in Australia, talking shit on a blog. Your heightened level of agitation suggests you don’t realise that we have virtually no impact on what happens in the US election, no matter how hysterical you think we’ve become.

    You seem to be losing touch with what is real and what isn’t, m0nty. Maybe time to phone a friend? I’m serious.

  114. OldOzzie

    Glenn Greenwald trashes media ‘cone of silence’ around Hunter Biden email scandal

    The Intercept founding editor claims journalists working with ‘FBI, CIA and the NSA … to manipulate the American people’

  115. egg_

    GoFundMe for MaRcUs AdOnIs?

  116. Steve trickler

    How would China land troops on Taiwan without being obliterated in transit?



  117. OldOzzie

    Sean Hannity: Biden ‘noticeably missing in action’ should ‘alarm every American’

    ‘This has never happened in the history of presidential politics,’ Fox News host says

  118. Fat Tony

    m0nty
    #3626538, posted on October 20, 2020 at 10:49 pm
    This is what I am talking about. Whipping yourselves into hysterics over Jade Helm conspiracy theories to justify your later embrace of whatever cockamamie scheme Trump tries to steal the election. Fantasies about wingnut armed insurrection are just pathetic.

    monty – if the Dems lose, do you think they will calmly accept the fact and go peacefully about their lives??
    Is not what Antifa is currently doing insurrection?
    Who the fuck is Jade Helm?
    One thing I am not is hysterical – old lesbians like you, yes.

    I’ve been reading your crap here for years – can you tell me please, are you mentally ill or just plain evil?
    You couldn’t want your kids to grow up in a leftist controlled world, could you??

  119. Leigh Lowe I just watched Paul Murray on those babies. I don’t think I can sleep tonight unless there are many drinks consumed. That fucking wild over this.

  120. OldOzzie

    If Joe Biden lies and the media ignore it, does he make a sound?

    PITTSBURGH — Shawn Steffee was at a political function in Indiana County, Pennsylvania, last Thursday evening when he started receiving an overwhelming number of calls and text messages. “My phone started going off like a slot machine. Initially, I had no idea what was going on,” he said from his home in Homer City.

    Steffee, a Boilermakers Local 154 business agent and executive board member, soon found the flood of texts and calls were because Joe Biden lied about Steffee and his union supporting him during the ABC News town hall event last week. Host George Stephanopoulos noted Steffee by name in a question about the sincerity of Biden’s support of fracking. Steffee had told the New York Times that Biden’s sudden vocal support of fracking is inconsistent with his goal of ending the use of fossil fuels, and Stephanopoulos pressed him on Steffee’s statement.

    “The boilermakers overwhelmingly endorse me, OK?” Biden snapped on Thursday, adding, “So, the Boilermakers Union has endorsed me because I sat down with them, went into great detail with leadership, exactly what I would do, No. 1.”

    Except they didn’t.

    In truth, the Local 154 endorsed President Trump in a September message from business leader John Hughes. They appeared with him onstage at a massive rally shortly after. “Biden flat-out lied. I’m only speaking for my local union, which is the largest boilermaker union in the country,” said Steffee.

  121. Tim Neilson

    Someone’s optimistic:

    Jeff Kennett @jeff_kennett

    Get ready for change at the top!

    7:28 PM · Oct 19, 2020 from Melbourne, Victoria

    Maybe he’s predicting that the Cats will beat the reigning premiers.

  122. Knuckle Dragger

    I forgot to mentioned I was at the gym tonight.

    All the chicks loved me.

  123. JC

    You seem to be losing touch with what is real and what isn’t, m0nty. Maybe time to phone a friend? I’m serious.

    Absolutely not! Monster is not allowed to see anyone while he’s in lockdown… in the basement.

  124. Knuckle Dragger

    Using my expertise as a military analyst, ex Navy, Moke-driving pig hunting Canberra dwelling expert who was the only person ever to be posted to Townsville, I can say with authority that the Hilux in _roomba’s clip is too small, too blue and too manual.

    It’s not an automatic truck chicks drive – sorry, steer – though, so there’s that.

  125. OldOzzie

    The hidden factors that could produce a surprise Trump victory

    “The instruments we have to gauge this race, the polling, our predictive models … are built around quote-unquote normal elections. And this is anything but a normal election,” said one Democratic operative.

    By almost every measure that political operatives, academics and handicappers use to forecast elections, the likely outcome is that Joe Biden will win the White House.

    Yet two weeks before Election Day, the unfolding reality of 2020 is that it’s harder than ever to be sure. And Democrats are scrambling to account for the hidden variables that could still sink their nominee — or what you might call the known unknowns.

    Republican registration has ticked up in key states at the same time Democratic field operations were in hibernation. Democratic turnout is surging in the early vote. But it’s unclear whether it will be enough to overcome an expected rush of ballots that Republicans, leerier of mail voting, will cast in person on Nov. 3.

    There is uncertainty about the accuracy of polling in certain swing states, the efficacy of GOP voter suppression efforts and even the number of mail-in ballots that for one reason or another will be disqualified.

    “There are more known unknowns than we’ve ever had at any point,” said Tom Bonier, CEO of the Democratic data firm TargetSmart. “The instruments we have to gauge this race, the polling, our predictive models … the problem is all those tools are built around quote-unquote normal elections. And this is anything but a normal election.”

    On a recent video call with Democratic Party state chairs, Bonier laid out an overwhelmingly positive electoral landscape for Biden. But he cautioned that even small variations in turnout projections could have a substantial effect on the outcome. For that reason, among others, Democrats are poring over early vote totals, circulating anxiety-ridden campaign memos and bracing for a long two weeks.

    “We don’t know what insanity Trump will hurl into the mix,” said Matt Bennett of the center-left group Third Way. “Every day is a week and every week is a month. It’s going to feel like a long time between now and November 3rd.”

  126. Oh come on

    He could call the Hotline, JC…or did you forget to switch on the answering machine again?

  127. dover_beach

    This is what I am talking about. Whipping yourselves into hysterics over Jade Helm conspiracy theories to justify your later embrace of whatever cockamamie scheme Trump tries to steal the election.

    Monty is projecting again.

  128. OldOzzie

    Give ’Em Hell, Donald

    He probably won’t admit it, and may not know it, but President Trump has ripped a page from the Harry Truman Playbook

    Like Truman, who trailed badly in the polls in 1948, Trump is out on the campaign trail nearly every day whistle-stopping at airports in battleground states and “Giving ’em hell” as he tries to defy the news media and the pundits by winning a second term.

    And as a sign of the times, Trump’s attacks on Democrat Joe Biden are more blistering than anything Truman hurled at heavily favored Republican Tom Dewey in his famous comeback victory 72 years ago.

    “Sleepy Joe Biden is the living embodiment of the corrupt political class that enriched itself while draining the economic life and soul of our country,” Trump told a cheering, sign-waving airport crowd Friday in Macon, Ga. Earlier in the day he spoke in Ocala, Fla. On Saturday, he held rallies in Muskegon, Mich., and Janesville, Wis. On Thursday he was in Greenville, N.C.

    “So, get your friends, get your family, get your neighbors, get out and vote,” Trump implored his North Carolina supporters. “The red wave is coming; the red wave is coming.”

    When the Wisconsin rally ended Saturday evening, Trump flew to Las Vegas where he attended church Sunday morning and held an evening rally in Carson City, Nev. In all those states he visited, Trump is either running even with Biden or behind. He won all but Nevada in 2016.

  129. egg_

    I despise vendettas.

    The “Kick a Vic” thin skins?

  130. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    One local also has an Order of Lenin but he doesn’t darken the door of the RSL.

    Le Duan and Le Duc Tho – their part in my victory.

  131. egg_

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3626564, posted on October 20, 2020 at 11:17 pm
    Knuckle Dragger
    #3626566, posted on October 20, 2020 at 11:21 pm

  132. Oh come on

    Remember all of the additional blue collar support a Biden candidacy would draw? The wukkahs love them some Biden. It must be true, everybody said so after South Carolina.

    Serious question. When was the Biden, Champion of Organised Labour myth created? When was it first claimed that Biden had some kind of special affinity with the working man? I doubt it was particularly long ago.

  133. Oh come on

    Wow. Drudge is seriously losing the plot. It’s not only m0nty who’s in the midst of a breakdown.

  134. Knuckle Dragger

    Farter time for all six of us.

    Combined weight of 91kg. Lean muscle, mind.

    The floor’s yours, insecure little tubby auto driver – sorry, steerer.

    G’night, Chompy.

  135. OldOzzie

    ANCAP gives Jeep Gladiator just three stars

    The Jeep Gladiator 4X4 ute range has been given a three-star safety rating by ANCAP following last year’s testing of the Jeep Wrangler on which its based.

    As the Gladiator shares the same core structure as the Wrangler, as well as the same engine and restraint package, ANCAP says it provides similar structural crash performance to the previously-tested Wrangler, which the testing body describes as “below that expected by consumers”.

    “The structural issues we saw with the originally-tested Wrangler also apply to the Gladiator including A-pillar and cross-facia beam failure, footwell intrusion, high seatbelt loads and excessive pedal movement. These remain an increased risk for occupants,” ANCAP Director – Communications & Advocacy, Rhianne Robson said.

    “Consumers have come to expect a high level of safety regardless of price-point and market segment.”

  136. BrettW

    From the Oz. Note on 27 March Jobs Dept in charge but on 1 APR somebody saying Sutton in charge. He gave evidence he was not involved. Either way it shows total chaos at the top. Wonder who tipped them off about the 27 March email train !

    Victorian Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton instructed lawyers to withhold from the state’s hotel quarantine inquiry a critical email that appears to contradict his sworn evidence that he was not told about the use of private security guards until months after the scheme began.

    Professor Sutton’s bid to keep the email secret was revealed after the inquiry headed by former judge Jennifer Coate held a special hearing on Tuesday and released its correspondence with lawyers acting for the Department of Health and Human Services.The inquiry is considering who engaged private security guards for the hotel quarantine program in late March instead of using police and Australian Defence Force officers, a decision now seen as a catalyst for allowing the coronavirus to escape and spread across Melbourne.

    It has asked for Professor Sutton and other bureaucrats involved in the scheme to clarify their earlier evidence. The Herald Sun reported that Premier Daniel Andrews was among “certain parties” ordered by the inquiry to make another sworn statement. In a letter sent to the inquiry on Monday, DHHS lawyers said an employee raised concerns some relevant emails had not been given to the investigation on September 28. Those emails, sent on March 27, show Professor Sutton in an exchange with commonwealth officials during which the use of private security is discussed.

    Despite this, Professor Sutton told the lawyers he stood by his previous evidence that he was not aware of the use of private security until media reports in May. The department’s lawyers said Professor Sutton had instructed them that he did not need to clarify his evidence because he did not read the details of the emails and so they did not need to be provided.
    “Professor Sutton further instructed us that he did not consider he needed to clarify his evidence and therefore the email did not need to be provided to the Board for that reason,” the email from the DHHS to the inquiry said.

    The DHHS was still considering whether “anything further needed to be done” when the inquiry requested those emails be produced last Thursday. The March 27 email chain now tabled to the inquiry shows a Department of Home Affairs official, Sandra Jeffery, asking Professor Sutton to provide details of quarantine arrangements in Victoria, including security arrangements.
    Professor Sutton asked DHHS deputy director strategy and policy, Braedan Hogan, to respond and copy him in. Mr Hogan told Ms Jeffery that “private security is being contracted to provide security at the hotels with escalation arrangements to (Victoria Police) as needed”.

    Professor Sutton acknowledged receipt of the email with the words: “thanks so much, Braedan”.

    He had previously given evidence to the inquiry that he was unaware of the use of private security at hotels until he saw media reports about the outbreak at the Rydges Hotel in May.

    The inquiry has heard that almost all of Victoria’s second COVID-19 wave could be linked to quarantined travellers at the Rydges and Stamford Plaza.

    Tony Neal QC, counsel assisting the inquiry, said Professor Sutton would be asked to provide an affidavit responding to questions about the emails.

    Answers would also be sought from Professor Sutton and DHHS secretary Kym Peake about a six-page email chain between DHHS officials, including an April 1 email by a senior bureaucrat headed: “Information — Chain of Command – people in detention”.

    Finn Romanes, the deputy public health commander in charge of planning at the time, wrote that “all policy and oversight of people in detention is being handled in a strict chain of command” headed by Professor Sutton. “It is important that all direction, policy, reporting and arrangements do not break this chain,” he wrote.

    On March 27, the Department of Jobs, Precincts and Regions was told it would be the lead ¬agency for the quarantine program. This led to a frantic night of work by departmental staff sourcing security and the signing of contracts with private security. As early as the next day, DHHS assumed the lead role, but Ms Peake subsequently maintained that the quarantine program was a joint operation with shared accountability between the two departments.

    Jobs Minister Martin Pakula insisted DHHS became the lead agency, and Mr Andrews said then health minister Jenny Mikakos was accountable for the program. She and Department of Premier and Cabinet secretary Chris Eccles have both resigned.

    Mr Neal said the email might add “some weight” to deliberations as to who was in charge of the scheme.

    Mr Eccles will be asked to provide a further affidavit to the inquiry after phone records showed he spoke to the then Victoria Police chief Graham Ashton for 135 seconds in a pivotal six-minute window during the planning of hotel quarantine. Mr Ashton will also be asked to answer new questions put by the inquiry.

    Ms Coate said that, “most unfortunately”, the new development might unsettle the due date for the inquiry’s report. However, she said she was unable to be clear about whether the timetable would change as she did not yet have the material.

    The inquiry could recall witnesses, although Mr Neal said it “must be emphasised that the relevant parties are being asked to address novel material not the subject of previous evidence”.

    “There is no basis for inferring or speculating that any view has yet been formed about the veracity or otherwise of evidence previously given by any parties on the topic of engagement of private security,” he said.

    Melbourne is poised to have public health restrictions wound back next week, allowing retail and hospitality venues to reopen and residents to welcome visitors to their homes for the first time in months, as coronavirus case numbers continue to fall.

    Mr Andrews said on Tuesday he hoped to be able to bring forward to Sunday plans for further easing of restrictions that had been slated to come into effect from November 2. However, there was no chance they would be lifted in time for this Saturday’s AFL grand final featuring two Victorian teams: Richmond and Geelong. The Premier warned that police would have a heightened presence to ¬ensure people weren’t gathering in breach of current restrictions. “We’ve been very clear that we want to look at numbers as they unfold this week,” Mr Andrews said.

    There was one new COVID-19 infection reported on Tuesday, with the possibility that the real figure was zero given the case was linked to a prior infection.

  137. OldOzzie

    For egg

    Toyota HiLux Mako released in NZ

    Toyota New Zealand has just choppered in (via a military Black Hawk helicopter, no less) its answer to the Ford Ranger Raptor, called the HiLux Mako!
    Surfacing on Toyota New Zealand’s social media (via its Facebook Story) this afternoon, is the brand’s newest model, the HiLux Mako. The new high-end HiLux, so far as we can see, includes upgraded bespoke leather-trimmed sports seats, Mako branded side steps (possibly rock sliders) and an ARB OME suspension kit with internal bypass BP-51 dampers.

    In addition, the Mako gets an upgraded front bar, all-terrain tyres and trick-looking black alloy wheels. The steel front bar appears to have built-in fog lights and an LED light bar as well. There also appears to be rated recovery points and decent underbody protection plates. Worth noting is that Toyota New Zealand has introduced the new model as the ‘Ultimate HiLux’.

    The OME suspension kit appears to include at least a two-inch lift, along with the BP-51 shocks. Details beyond what we can see in the photos are very light, however, we have reached out to Toyota Australia in the hope of a confirmation that this halo model that would sit above both the HiLux Rogue and HiLux Rugged X models will be coming to Australia.

  138. BrettW

    PS Surely Sutton must now resign.

    The total chaos shows a complete lack of direction at the top and this must be down to Andrews as there were multiple Depts / Heads with nobody sure who was in charge.

    It keeps getting worse and must be more to come.

  139. egg_

    Farter time

    Our prayers are with you for a good “start” in the morning, MaNuEl UtE!

  140. Dot

    Now even egg_ is on my Manuel Utz meme.

  141. egg_

    OldOzzie
    #3626580, posted on October 20, 2020 at 11:39 pm
    For egg

    Was recalling today “Toyota manual diesel” experience:

    3 x Landcruisers
    1 x Pissy HiLux

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz……………

  142. Lazlo

    Stop calling him Professor Sutton. He is an Adjunct – an honorary grace-and-favour title. He has never earned the right to be called Professor.

    (Disgruntled ex Real Professor)

  143. egg_

    Gallows boner material for Lowe Browe

  144. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Lame pics.

    Bloke who worked for me, back in the day, impregnated both his wife and girlfriend – almost simultaneously…

  145. BrettW

    From The Herald Sun. Note inquiry only learnt about the missing email chain due to the media !. The QC assisting becoming a bit of a joke. Unless of course you take the view he was not wanting to look to closely into things. Like you know who has been doing.

    “Premier Daniel Andrews has been ordered to make another sworn statement to the hotel quarantine inquiry after investigators gained access to his phone records.

    The Herald Sun understands Mr Andrews is among the “certain parties” who a special hearing was told had been asked to provide affidavits answering further questions and handing over documents.

    Former Health Minister Jenny Mikakos has previously warned the inquiry to treat “with caution” Mr Andrews’ evidence that he did not know who decided to use private security.It is understood Mr Andrews has been asked questions in response to evidence given by former chief bureaucrat, Chris Eccles.

    There will be no correction to Mr Andrews’ evidence.

    The request comes after inquiry lawyers were given copies of phone records of Mr Andrews, his private staff, former Department of Premier and Cabinet secretary Mr Eccles and complete records from former police chief Graham Ashton.

    The records have already cost Mr Eccles his job, after he gave evidence he didn’t speak to Mr Aston during a crucial six-minute period on March 27. He resigned nine days ago after the records showed he had in fact called Mr Ashton, although he denied discussing private security.

    Mr Andrews on Tuesday would only say “there may have been a letter,” from the inquiry. “I’ve got no knowledge of what they are doing today, they are an independent board and they’ll do whatever they think is appropriate,’’ he said.He resisted commenting on whether he would support a royal commission if it was recommended in the findings.

    Along with Mr Andrews, the inquiry has also demanded sworn statements from Victoria’s Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton, and Department of Health and Human Services secretary Kym Peake.

    The health pair are in the sights of the inquiry after the DHHS admitted it did not hand over emails, including one which shows Prof Sutton at the top of a “chain of command’’ for people in hotel detention.

    The inquiry is revisiting Prof Sutton’s earlier evidence where he said: “I was not directly involved in the operational planning, approving or running of the Victorian hotel quarantine program.”

    In a further development, it also emerged a DHHS employee, who had given evidence to the inquiry, raised concerns about several missing emails as early as September 28 – but the first the inquiry knew about it was when it emerged in the media a week ago.

    The inquiry wrote to the DHHS lawyers Minters demanding answers on why six email chains which appeared to be relevant to their inquiries were not produced.

  146. egg_

    Disgruntled ex Real Professor

    Whose @rse was flown around in a plane by AI?

  147. Lazlo

    I have no idea what you are talking about egg_

  148. JC

    BrettW
    #3626581, posted on October 20, 2020 at 11:39 pm

    PS Surely Sutton must now resign.

    The total chaos shows a complete lack of direction at the top and this must be down to Andrews as there were multiple Depts / Heads with nobody sure who was in charge.

    It keeps getting worse and must be more to come.

    Brett, I think they look like a disorganized rabble but mostly they appear that way because they’re all lying. It’s obvious the private security was given the job because it was a firm was owned by a minority or hired lots of them. In their wokeness these imbeciles were actually virtue signaling about their hiring. I recall they publicly explained the hiring as a form of affirmative action.

    What I’m getting at is that Hunchback doesn’t appear to be disorganized and therefore knew the exact layout. He set the objectives but those below him were incompetent. Now , they’re all lying to cover their tracks.

  149. BrettW

    Game over Andrews ? As per my previous post Thursday resignation (ie becuase Friday a holiday in VIC for the game they are not holding).

    Why bother waiting for the inquiry conclusion ?

  150. gafa

    Blog time check… 00:00… mark

  151. egg_

    Got pulled over in the bush for driving a (manuel!!!) Mitsubishi Fuso 3.5 tonner, but they merely gave me a caution.

  152. Terry Pedersen

    Just like the twin died because chook wouldn’t let mum into Qld.

    The death of the Ballina twin had nothing to do with the border issue. As I said at the time the outcome for that twin was inevitable.

  153. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Cops eye George Pell case cash transfer from the Vatican

    Dennis Shanahan
    Political editor
    16 minutes ago October 20, 2020

    The Australian Federal Police is examining evidence of money transfers from the Vatican to Australia allegedly linked to ­attempts to adversely influence the trial of Cardinal George Pell.

    The investigation was launched after the AFP and Victoria Police were passed information by Australia’s financial crimes watchdog.

    Austrac has confirmed it ­investigated reports that more than $1m had been transferred “allegedly from Vatican funds to person or persons in Australia” and that it “provided information” to the AFP. NSW Liberal senator Concetta Fierravanti-Wills used a Senate committee hearing on Tuesday to ask the chief executive of Austrac, Nicole Rose, about “the alleged transfer of €700,000 ($1.1m) of Vatican funds to person or persons in Australia”.

    Ms Rose told the Senate estimates hearings that she could “confirm Austrac has looked into the matter and we’ve provided ­information to the AFP and to Victoria Police”.

    She said they were the only agencies Austrac had supplied the information to.

    Senator Fierravanti-Wells also asked the secretary of the Department of Home Affairs, Mike Pezzullo, whether his staff had been asked for the matter to be investigated.

    “I’m not aware of anything having been received by my department,” he said.

    Breaking, from the Oz.

  154. Be real sad if Dan has to go just before All-Hail-The-Glorious-Leader day.

    Hope Peta turns up again. 🙂

  155. JC

    Game over Andrews ?

    Maybe I’m wrong, but I cannot ever recall a Liars Party leader resigning out of their own volition because things finally caught up with them. After an election, sure, but that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m pretty sure there’s never been an Liars leader who resigned on their own instead of being pushed.

    The idea that Hunchback would leave of his own accord.. that’s just not happening as it’s not in their DNA.

  156. egg_

    Surely Sutton must now resign.

    You’d think he’d be the weakest link, but they’re obvious;y covering his @rse over the hotel Quarantine fiasco.

  157. Got pulled over in the bush for driving a (manuel!!!)…

    Que?

  158. If that’s the case, JC, (and I cannot recall an instance, either), then it’s up to the factions or the federals. Wonder how dire their internal polling is?

    I had a polling call the other evening. I just hung up. Perhaps I should have played the game, but I wasn’t in the mood to do so. Not keen on encouraging the bastards.

  159. Got pulled over in the bush for driving a (manuel!

    Oh dear lord.

    Phrasing.

  160. BrettW

    JC,
    It is always the cover up that gets you. In this situation too many involved and too many phone calls, texts and emails. The cover up seems aimed to protect Andrews which is why we initially had “the creeping assumption” BS theory from the so called inquiry.

    On the first day based on what was happening it is clear Jobs Dept doing the main running. However even one of their own guys warned against using Unified. I noted one article (I think by Credlin) which indicated the other two companies said they could not get going that quickly. Somehow Unified magically came up with the staff and PPE (remember at that time it was hard to find) needed within 24 hours. It looks like Unified was saying yes to everything to get the job but were far from ready and Jobs Dept did not really care.

    I would bet big money on a sudden increase in Union membership also being a positive side benefit for somebody in Jobs Dept and Trades Hall
    .
    Hopefully just a matter of time before Andrews falls on his sword or his own party tells him to go.

  161. egg_

    Professor Sutton asked DHHS deputy director strategy and policy, Braedan Hogan, to respond and copy him in. Mr Hogan told Ms Jeffery that “private security is being contracted to provide security at the hotels with escalation arrangements to (Victoria Police) as needed”.

    Blind Freddy knew that.

  162. egg_

    Oh dear lord.

    Not “pulled off” – premature exclamation.

  163. Leigh Lowe

    Lazlo

    #3626592, posted on October 20, 2020 at 11:57 pm

    I have no idea what you are talking about egg_

    Take a number, Lazlo.
    You are not alone, Prof.

  164. egg_

    Leigh Lowe
    #3626610, posted on October 21, 2020 at 12:11 am

    Scroll – tard.

  165. egg_

    Que?

    C Class weight limit NSW.

  166. Fat Tony

    JC
    #3626602, posted on October 21, 2020 at 12:04 am
    Maybe I’m wrong, but I cannot ever recall a Liars Party leader resigning out of their own volition because things finally caught up with them. After an election, sure, but that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m pretty sure there’s never been an Liars leader who resigned on their own instead of being pushed.

    Didn’t Peter Beattie resign rather unexpectedly from his position as Premier of Queensland?
    A few rumours floated around at the time as to why.

  167. Leigh Lowe

    egg_

    #3626612, posted on October 21, 2020 at 12:15 am

    Que?

    C Class weight limit NSW.

    Really?
    Tell us more.
    Sounds absolutely fabbo!

  168. Steve trickler

    Try again. Weird shit going on.



  169. egg_

    Tell us more.
    Sounds absolutely fabbo!

    Not as entertaining as a Chopper interview video, surely?

    Got the Kleenex handy?

  170. Leigh Lowe

    Which Copper interview?

  171. egg_

    Disgruntled ex Real Professor

    Whose @rse was flown around in a plane by AI?

    “Greeted at the plane door by Avionics” not ring a bell, Prof?

  172. Leigh Lowe

    Anything you’d like to re-post from April, roomba?
    😀😀😀😀😀

  173. gafa

    Leigh’s just hanging around cause he wants to be top of the next page…counting, counting.

  174. egg_

    Leigh Lowe
    #3626620, posted on October 21, 2020 at 12:26 am

    Where have you been whilst we’ve all been busy “Kicking a Vic” for weeks?

  175. Bar Beach Swimmer

    JC,
    Neville Wran did & so did Bob Carr.

  176. egg_

    I’ll wager old Lowe Browe is posting from his deathbed.

  177. Lazlo

    No bells at all egg_ Avionics (what/whoever that is) is not my thing at all. You might be confusing me with someone else. Or perhaps you are just all over the place. Just guessing..

  178. egg_

    Or perhaps you are just all over the place. Just guessing..

    And if you’re wrong?

  179. Lazlo

    Yes, Neville Wran at the NSW State Labor Conference, 1986, after lunch. We were having lunch with Rodney Cavalier somewhere in Sussex Street and did not get back in time for his announcement. Then followed the famous knee-capping of Laurie Brereton under the stage at Sydney Town Hall (Richo was right in it) and the subsequent ascension of the Killer in a Cardigan.

  180. BrettW

    Just watched this Credlin clip on Youtube where she covers Senate questions, by Sarah Henderson VIC Senator, in Senate today. Seems the Inquiry never asked Federal Govt for any info regarding VIC actions over quarantine. Seems AFP boss expressed surprise as a Police Commissioners forum (date unknown but implication is before VIC made decision) agreed that State police supported by ADF would do hotel quarantine.

    Yet Ashton in his texts on 27 March seemed to think AFP would do it. It all goes back to Ashton not wanting VICPOL involved.

    Hotel Quarantine Inquiry is ‘not serious’ about finding out what happened
    4,025 views•Oct 20, 2020

  181. JC

    I think they both retired, no?

  182. Steve trickler

    It’s funny how Goolag have already suggested I have watched this clip, I have not…. learning their tricks.

    Weird shit is going on.



  183. gafa

    As a young fella I was pulled over by the cops in WA. I’d been told that if you get out of the car and stand upright speaking to the cops eyeball to eyeball they might back down a bit and show some leniency…
    bastards nearly shot me!

  184. egg_

    Hotel Quarantine Inquiry is ‘not serious’ about finding out what happened

    Sutton’s got a week to cobble together a bullsh1t story?

  185. gafa

    It’s against the rules to wear “Free Melbourne” t-shirts, allegedly. The cops could rip Credlin’s t-shirt off her there and then, on the spot, allegedly.
    I just don’t care.

  186. egg_

    Lazlo
    #3589956, posted on September 19, 2020 at 12:03 am
    When you last got on a plane egg (when was that? we all groan) were you greeted by a reassuring auto-pilot?

    The Cat’s becoming a Dementia Ward.

  187. gafa

    The new Melbournian Anthem. gosh, go-o-o-o-llee, it’s a good song…shazam!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHrqrlZYsDA

  188. Oh come on

    Stevie T, something’s not right with the Jordan Peterson/Peterson family story. They seem to be incredibly, extraordinarily unlucky and also lucky by equal measure. Peterson himself is very prone to depression, he has ongoing auto-immune issues of varying intensity, and of course the massive benzo-related melt-down. All of these things are regulated or ultimately overcome via some unusual or unconventional remedy which becomes an important part of the narrative.

    His wife was diagnosed with some kind of rare and deadly cancer. The prognosis was extremely grim. She pulled through despite very low odds.

    His daughter also has ongoing auto-immune issues that have been very extreme and crippling. These are managed and addressed via unusual or unconventional remedies that are an important part of the narrative.

    I’m just putting this out there – how much of this is genuinely happening? Peterson loves grand narratives, after all…

  189. I must have missed something as have no idea what this means.

    “It’s against the rules to wear “Free Melbourne” t-shirts, allegedly. The cops could rip Credlin’s t-shirt off her there and then, on the spot, allegedly”

  190. gafa

    I must have missed something as have no idea what this means.

    https://youtu.be/54cuJdMDi8E

  191. gafa

    I must have missed something as have no idea what this means.

    Example no 2

  192. gafa

    knock knock, pffftt, whatever, I just don’t care.

  193. C.L.

    Wo.
    Rudy Giuliani says more information about the Bidens is imminent – including “eye-popping” financial crimes and also “personal conduct” that sounds somewhat disturbing:

    There will be more financial criminal activity, more proof on the subjects we already have and even bigger deals that are eye-popping. And some personal conduct that has to be brought to the attention of the public to make sure people are safe. And that has to be handled appropriately before it can be discussed.

  194. notafan

    Martin Paluka has reversed owners at the Cox plate decision after getting ratioed.

    Oops.

  195. egg_

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison has declared Australia must now work to flatten the curve of rising unemployment, pushing the need for workplaces and the broader economy to become “COVID-safe” so they can re-open.

    Key points:
    National Cabinet has agreed to a set of COVID-19 work safety principles
    Mr Morrison says each week of restrictions is costing the economy $4 billion
    Safe Work Australia’s website has been overhauled with information about COVID-19 safety
    Putting the Government’s focus on the millions of workers affected by the pandemic, including up to 1 million that have lost their jobs entirely, Mr Morrison said the need to get people back into work was weighing on National Cabinet as it met on Tuesday.

    Mr Morrison said more than 5 million Australians were on the JobKeeper payment, with a further 1 million out of work and on the JobSeeker payment.

    More than 1 million people in financial need had also raided their retirement savings early, Mr Morrison said.

    Who pushed the big PANIC button, Scummo?

  196. Top Ender

    A very long podcast with an American radio show on the new book Atomic Salvation. Click on the green arrow:

    https://nodicenoglory.com/2020/10/20/no-dice-no-glory-episode-71-atomic-salvation-with-tom-lewis/

  197. Top Ender

    Just 6% of Leeds residents want statues of historical figures in their city to be removed, following a ‘cancel culture’ review by the city’s Labour-run council.

    Leeds City Council failed to find a single statue or monument with direct links to the slave trade, according to an inquiry into whether they were deemed offensive in light of Black Lives Matter protests.

    The review, chaired by Alison Lowe – Leeds’ first black female city councillor – looked into statues and monuments, including Queen Victoria, Robert Peel, Edward the Black Prince and Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington.

    Daily Mail

  198. 2dogs

    an inquiry into whether they were deemed offensive in light of Black Lives Matter protests.

    The review, chaired by Alison Lowe – Leeds’ first black female city councillor – looked into statues and monuments, including … Robert Peel …

    That must have been an interesting discussion.

  199. feelthebern

    Sutton instructing lawyers to not provide emails to an enquiry is a fantastic precedent.
    I look forward to Richard Pusey using this as part of his strategy.

  200. feelthebern

    Breaking news, Hermann Goering instructs his lawyers to not provide the prosecutors in Nuremberg with certain records as they were not relevant to the case.

  201. Herodotus

    Labor premier who resigned during his term?
    Steve Bracks, 2007.

  202. Herodotus

    And Boob Carr, 2005.

  203. caveman

    Victorians going bonkers over the Cox Plate , what’s the difference they have given the AFL a free pass. I’m sure the lockdan has created a bunch of crazy in the coconut people.

  204. Herodotus

    Biden has lost Piers Morgan!
    Trouble at MSM Mill.

  205. rickw

    Look at the Vikpol Nazi fuckers go:

  206. Dot

    Why is this even an article at all?

    It is hate speech.

    SBS News: Meet the Americans who could be about to make Congress less ‘stale, pale and male’.

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/meet-the-americans-who-could-be-about-to-make-congress-less-stale-pale-and-male

  207. calli

    Retired early with a good book – we were all starting to sound like Shelby Foote last night.

    Dunno what Ramirez is in about. Perhaps he thinks locking up millions in their homes or forcing them to wear filthy masks is a-okay.

    Thanks for the AussieMan/Uncle Roger video Steve. Masters of cultural deadpan. “That’s the type of chair you have when your wife has taken all the rest.” 😀

  208. areff

    Just got a publicity blurb from the National Museum spruiking the latest advance in Australian education. They’ve assembled a slather of old news clips and documentary footage for teachers to celebrate the “significant defining moments” (why not celebrate tautology too?) in Australia’s history. Here they are:

    65,000+ years ago: Evidence of first peoples
    1788: Arrival of the First Fleet
    1792: Pemulwuy resists the colonists
    1851: Gold rushes in New South Wales and Victoria begin
    1872: Free, compulsory and secular education
    1880: Ned Kelly’s last stand
    1901: Federation of the Australian colonies
    1902: Women granted the vote in federal elections
    1915: Australian troops land at Gallipoli
    1919: Influenza pandemic reaches Australia
    1928: Bradman’s first century
    1967: Indigenous referendum
    1976: First arrival of Vietnamese refugees by boat
    1978: First gay Mardi Gras
    2000: Cathy Freeman lights the Sydney Olympic flame and wins the 400m
    2009: Black Saturday bushfires
    2010: First female prime minister and governor-general

    Might be a bit of an agenda at work at the Australia Museum. Good to see nothing ‘significant’ happened between Bradman’s first century and the 1967 referendum. The Great Depression, WWII, post-war w ogs … can’t hold a candle to the first gay mardi gras.

  209. Ed Case

    Forgan Smith retired in 1942, 2 months after he was secretly appointed [by himself] to an higher paid job in the Qld Public Service.
    They don’t make Labor leaders like that anymore.
    John Cain [jr] also retired suddenly mid Term.
    As a matter of fact, nearly every Labor Premier not voted out “retired unexpectedly”.

  210. calli

    Lol areff.

    If the Mardi Gras route was north to south rather than Oxford St, they might have included that significant piece of world class architecture too.

    But…sequins!

  211. It might come as a shock to Spud, but the glorious Commie victors of the V*****m war hate the Chunks with a passion.

    You haven’t been paying attention.
    Ask Mater to find all my comments (and there are plenty) about the loathing the Vietnamese have for the Chinese.
    Ho Chi Minh had his say in 1946 –

    You fools! Don’t you realize what it means if the Chinese remain? Don’t you remember your history? The last time the Chinese came, they stayed a thousand years. The French are foreigners. They are weak. Colonialism is dying. The white man is finished in Asia. But if the Chinese stay now, they will never go. As for me, I prefer to sniff French shit for five years than to eat Chinese shit for the rest of my life.

    They fought a war against them in 1979.
    The Vietnamese have always put nationalism above politics and that was what the war was about.
    They put the Chinese, the Japanese, the French, and the Americans in the same basket.

  212. rickw

    Dan’s decimation of Victoria:

  213. areff

    Ah, Calli, while we sat about and tut-tutted by the fire, scoffing in our comfy club chairs at the woke-ists and having a good laugh at their antics, they not only won, they set out to make a public spectacle of the defeated by rubbing noses in the filth with which they’ve encrusted every public institution.

    Relocating to Rome looks better by the day.

  214. rickw

    Salty Cracker, 7:30, Biden and Blacks:

  215. rickw

    Salty Cracker, 6:34, CNN Zoom problems:

  216. Mater

    Terry Pedersen
    #3626599, posted on October 21, 2020 at 12:03 am

    Just like the twin died because chook wouldn’t let mum into Qld.

    The death of the Ballina twin had nothing to do with the border issue. As I said at the time the outcome for that twin was inevitable.

    Oh no you don’t, my slimy little friend.

    Terry Pedersen
    #3566696, posted on August 31, 2020 at 5:03 pm

    trying to get her (and the twins) to appropriate treatment in a timely manner BEFORE the baby was dead?
    It can’t be said whether the baby could have been saved

    Not definitively, without seeing case notes. But, on the face of it the decision to seek intervention was made very late. Quite likely too late to stop what was always going to happen.

  217. calli

    Just listening to commentators on Seven Sunrise discussing the government response to Covid – both politicians and bureaucrats. The focus was on Sutton and his arrogance in ignoring crucial details in emails and then lying about it to the commission.

    This piece of tripe came up – “they’re under a tremendous amount of stress to make the right decisions.“

    Seriously?

    People who run their own businesses are under that type of pressure every single day. Every detail has to be examined and decisions made, sometimes on the run, otherwise that business goes under. It can all happen very quickly. Long hours, endless mulling over strategies, finance, problems…the list goes on.

    These guys have one job and many, many minions to assist them. And they still can’t do it.

  218. Cassie of Sydney

    Good morning……racist!

  219. Mater

    Ask Mater to find all my comments (and there are plenty) about the loathing the Vietnamese have for the Chinese.

    Couldn’t find any, Bob, but I’ll admit to not be overly diligent.
    I did, however, find these classics.

    1735099
    #3129202, posted on August 12, 2019 at 9:55 am

    I have never darkened the door of an RSL since 1971…
    …They are a thoroughly corrupt organisation slowly being dragged into the 21st century by people like James Brown
    .

    1735099
    #2991554, posted on April 18, 2019 at 8:08 pm

    After I returned from Vietnam, it was fifteen years before I marched on ANZAC Day. The first time was in 1985 only because I felt I owed a gesture of respect and thanks to the local RSL, who had donated $500 to my school. I was the principal of a Special School at the time.

    1735099
    #3114648, posted on July 24, 2019 at 2:29 pm

    My old rifle platoon commander was very helpful in checking the manuscript of my book and I was just getting to know him all over again between 2008 and 2009. He’d drive from Nerang, and I’d come down from Toowoomba. We’d meet at the Beaudesert RSL and talk over the manuscript over a beer and lunch.

    One day you’ll take my advice and not drag me into your bullshit.

  220. Cassie of Sydney

    “”Mater
    #3626697, posted on October 21, 2020 at 7:00 am””

    Kol hakavod Mater.

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