Remember Rudi Giuliani is a grub

This news is breaking in the US:

Rudy Giuliani announced Wednesday that he turned the hard drive reportedly left abandoned by Hunter Biden, son of Democrat presidential candidate Joe Biden, at a Delaware repair shop over to State Police due to contents which he says include inappropriate text messages and pictures of underage girls.

Now it is true that many people consider Giuliani to be some sort sort of war hero because he was Mayor of New York during the 9-11 terrorist attacks.

But the man is a grub.

The story of his grubbiness is set out in Daniel Fischel‘s Payback: The Conspiracy to Destroy Michael Milken and his Financial Revolution.

Let’s not forget that Donald Trump pardoned Milken:

President Trump issued several controversial pardons and grants of clemency on Tuesday, but the most welcome was the pardon to legendary financier Michael Milken. The presidential action recognizes that the Milken prosecution of the late 1980s-early 1990s was an example of prosecutorial excess in an era like our own when political gales were raging about “the greed decade.”

Prosecutorial excess? The prosecutor was Trump’s mate Rudi Giuliani.

Now maybe Hunter Biden is as guilty as sin of this latest allegations. But if Rudi Giuliani is his main – or only – accuser, then he probably isn’t.  If fact, we had been assured that the FBI had been in possession of this hard drive for some time, yet had done nothing.

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127 Responses to Remember Rudi Giuliani is a grub

  1. Infidel Tiger King

    Glenn Greenwald
    @ggreenwald
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    14h
    The most active agents of disinformation and propaganda in US politics are current and former members of the intel community.

    They were trained to lie and deceive but were supposed to direct it at foreign populations. Their main target is now domestic, & key ally the US media.

    The FBI is a fallen institution.

  2. stackja

    FBI had been in possession of this hard drive for some time, yet had done nothing.

    “Comey” FBI not interested.

  3. stackja

    former business associate

  4. Andore Jr.

    Sounds like Kamala “If Donald Trump wants me to take the vaccine, I won’t take it” Harris.

  5. stackja

    Rest of story about “former business associate” upsets Akismet

  6. DeanG

    The laptop is Hunter’s. Nobody is denying that. It proves deep corruption and now much, much worse. All of this has been well known for a long time, but covered up by corrupt media and big tech.

    So Rudy uses the laptop as a weapon. Good for him. Sometimes you need the nuclear option to break through the gatekeepers. The only thing that matters is the truth gets out to the sheeple prior to the election.

  7. jupes

    If fact, we had been assured that the FBI had been in possession of this hard drive for some time, yet had done nothing.

    This surprises you?

    Comey may be gone but the deep state is deep.

  8. wal1957

    I don’t think many people have a lot of faith in either the FBI at the moment.
    Who to believe?
    At last report intelligence officials have said that the emails appear authentic. I have not seen anything reported re pornography just insinuations that there is much worse to come.
    We’ll have to wait and see just how damning they are.
    Too late for this election unfortunately.
    If the FBI has been in possession of the hard drive for ‘some time’ you have to wonder whether they were ever going to investigate. Is the fix in…again???

  9. Cynic of A.

    Sinc:
    But if Rudi Giuliani is his main – or only – accuser, then he probably isn’t. If fact, we had been assured that the FBI had been in possession of this hard drive for some time, yet had done nothing.
    Don’t be silly. The only reason the FBI has done nothing is because they’re protecting the Bidens. It’s nothing to do with Giuliani. Even you should be aware of that.

  10. Infidel Tiger King

    Libertarianism 2020: Enthral to Big Tech and the State.

    Exactly as predicted.

  11. Tel

    I seem to remember that Rudi Giuliani was the guy who sent the “Second Responders” into a pile of asbestos dust without any equipment, so they all started dropping dead 15 years later.

    Does anyone else remember that incident?

  12. Peter Smith

    I don’t know Rudi Giuliani, so can’t judge his character – and wouldn’t anyway (look at the plank in your own eye, etc). But I hear he did a good job of reducing crime when Mayor of NY. His reputation was not simply built on his response to 9/11. But his character, good or bad, has nothing to do with material on Hunter Biden’s laptap, which can be verifed. I agree that if the material were on the laptop as claimed by Giulani that you would have expected the FBI to take action. However, unfortunately, the FBI does seem to be the independent and objective body we thought it was. We’ll need to see what the Delaware State Police make of it.

  13. Howard Hill

    Even crooks will turn in other crooks. There is no honor among crooks.

  14. Infidel Tiger King

    Jesse Kelly
    @JesseKellyDC
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    4h
    I had hopes this Hunter Biden laptop story would go somewhere until I found out the FBI had it.

  15. covid ate my homework

    I seem to remember that Rudi Giuliani was the guy who sent the “Second Responders” into a pile of asbestos dust without any equipment, so they all started dropping dead 15 years later.

    Does anyone else remember that incident?

    Yeah, I remember that, I also remember the “Terror, terror, terror” rants. Bush insider suckhole. Rudi needs to spend a few weeks in a damp basement, he’ll have plenty to tell about both sides.

  16. Epicurious

    “If fact, we had been assured that the FBI had been in possession of this hard drive for some time, yet had done nothing.”

    Now there is the real story. As reported, Biden junior’s own lawyers called the computer shop requesting the return of his property thereby proving the link. Reported elsewhere, the FBI may be holding on to the disc until Biden wins (a long shot) to use against him. I can only begin to wonder what they have on Harris.

    All in all western democracy is stuffed. Look to what happened with the fall of the Roman Empire to see where we go tomorrow. Oligarchies is one strong tip….. hm let me see Mr Hitler in the form of Schwab, Gates and his trust me, total immunity from prosecution for him vaccines, and many of the motley billionaire club, etc.

  17. Bear Necessities

    Whether Hunter or Joe get prosecuted for any of the activities detailed from the information on the laptop is unknown at this stage. What it does show is how politicians get rich from activities aside from the salary they take from being a congressman, Senator, President/Vice-President.

    Joe is unfortunate that his son has given his game away by being sloppy with his laptop. Also he was sloppy in openly taking his son on official visits and being a loudmouth regarding sacking of the prosecutor in Ukraine. It corroborates with the events described on the laptop.

    Sure Guiliani has some unadmirable traits but the information/evidence from the laptop has been out about a week now and no major holes in it have been found in it.

  18. Scott Osmond

    Considering that the FBI have withheld information in the past, refused to hand over documents to the DOJ, deleted and reset mobile phones so investigators were blocked and participated in lying to the courts so they could illegally spy on a candidate for office nothing they would do surprises me. Withholding a laptop with imcriminating evidence on a dem candidate and his family? Just another day ending in y at the FBI.

  19. bruce

    Odd that Sinclair is writing about a book written 25 years ago. One would think that a “grub” who is close to Trump would have attracted a lot of attention from the special counsel. Not so.
    Don’t let bias cloud your judgement.
    Who demonised Abbott and praise Turnbull?

  20. pbw

    Tel,

    I doubt that the second responders could have been held back.

  21. pbw

    Sinc,
    Giuliani won’t be prosecuting.

  22. The Sheriff

    Why is Sinc now peddling a DNC smear to cover up Biden corruption?

  23. Scott Osmond

    Because many but not all libertarians are only a coming out party away from full blown leftism. I’ve seen it happen to many times not to be surprised when it happens. Many of them loves them some big government but not when it effects them or their interests.

  24. FelixKruell

    Peter:

    But his character, good or bad, has nothing to do with material on Hunter Biden’s laptap, which can be verifed.

    Which it hasn’t been (yet). Which goes back to Sinc’s point.

  25. thefrollickingmole

    Hes a turd.
    But I cannot spare him, he fights…

  26. FelixKruell

    But if Rudi Giuliani is his main – or only – accuser, then he probably isn’t. If fact, we had been assured that the FBI had been in possession of this hard drive for some time, yet had done nothing.

    Let’s not forget Giuliani’s form when it comes to the Ukraine. You don’t have to go back 25 years to figure out he’s dodgy.

    So we have a laptop, that nobody has verified belongs to the Bidens, making its convenient way to Guliani, showing information that’s again unverified, about access to Biden being shopped around by his son. Something which Trump himself has openly done throughout his presidency. Yaaaawn.

  27. stackja

    “former business associate” federal agents moved him from his cell to protect him.

  28. thefrollickingmole

    So we have a laptop, that nobody has verified belongs to the Bidens

    Except for the Bidens lawyers asking for it back…

    Like to try getting past the first line with your “its nothing says increasingly nervous man for the 10th time” spiel?

  29. Sinclair Davidson

    People – I have loathed Giuliani for over 30 years. When Trump was still a Democrat.

  30. Professor Fred Lenin

    Who is the last person you would trust to be involved in a scheme to get secret bribes for yourself and your family ? A confirmed drug addict ? Shows you how stupid Paedo Joe is ,there are many many criminals in the Democrims who would do it for sharde of the bribes ,and they would be removed from connection to own family . The Paedo alegations are a police matter ,but the bribery is internationally serious . You cannot have a President who is so obviously corrupt . An kinquirey of judges shoukd be set up and Biden ssuspended from political life untill it is resolved one way or the other .
    The Democrims acan put that half Indian white woman who pretends to be clored with Fauxcahontas as running mate two frauds on the same ticket ,the Fraudsters Party .

  31. Bruce of Newcastle

    Always ignore the messenger and look at the data.
    Then analyse, crosscheck and verify the data.
    Shooting the messenger is the oldest excuse in the book.
    Much used by lefties, especially on this blog Numbers and m0nty.

  32. harrys on the boat

    People – I have loathed Giuliani for over 30 years. When Trump was still a Democrat.

    Your judgement means fuck all after you ligged for Turnbull.

  33. Clam Chowdah

    Guiliani may well be a grub. Irrelevant if the accusations are true.

    Also, it isn’t a stretch of the imagination to believe the FBI might not act on material damaging to aN important and exposed Democrat figure if you believe they acted on information they knew to be false in order to bring down a Republican. Two sides of the same coin.

  34. JC

    Look, Rudi did some terrible stuff and Mike M did not deserve to go to jail. That’s true.

    Rudi was also a better mayor than any of the other imbecile leftwing candidates that the Demons came up with. Politics is a relative game.
    Rudi’s predecessor was Dinkins who was a disaster. There were the beginnings of race riots because of that leftist creep and crime was sky high.

  35. RobK

    People – I have loathed Giuliani for over 30 years.
    He’s a lawyer, it comes with the territory.

  36. FelixKruell

    Frolicking:

    Except for the Bidens lawyers asking for it back…

    And your evidence for this is…

  37. JC

    And your evidence for this is…

    Are the claims lies, Dickhead?
    Giuliani and the store owner have evidence of a phone call and email to support this.

    Recall, in the Pell case you described how unverified claims can be evidence. So SFTU with the evidence.

  38. Infidel Tiger King

    People – I have loathed Giuliani for over 30 years.

    Removing the prostitutes and drug dealers from Times Square has always upset the libs.

  39. Proof Sinclair can be very wrong. The FBI have had the same info for 9months so Rudi can’t manufacture evidence but we do know the FBI have colluded with Democrats since at least 2016. They were going to bury this to or use it to get their way. The Bidens, like the Clintons are a crime family and guilty of treason

  40. JC

    Let’s not forget Giuliani’s form when it comes to the Ukraine. You don’t have to go back 25 years to figure out he’s dodgy.

    So we have a laptop, that nobody has verified belongs to the Bidens, making its convenient way to Guliani, showing information that’s again unverified, about access to Biden being shopped around by his son. Something which Trump himself has openly done throughout his presidency. Yaaaawn.

    This spastic dickhead is suggesting that it’s a yawn where there is evidence of a hard drive containing emails strongly implying the demonrat contender for the presidency is on the take from foreign governments.

    At this stage, the former owner of the hard drive nor his father have said what is contained is fake.

  41. Gyro Cadiz

    Data is data. Whether the man revealing the data is a sinner or a saint does not matter.

    Data has its own integrity.

    All that matters is this question:

    IS THE DATA VALID?

    Our current analysis is that the integrity of the data currently released in in excess of 90%. More is awaited.

  42. Mc

    It is a shame that they are pushing the seedier allegations. If the evidence of Biden enriching himself is valid then that should be enough. I suspect the seedy allegations are being put out to try and get people’s attention. No one ever went broke underestimating people.

  43. NuThink

    Remember J Edgar Hoover of the FBI. IIRC it has been reported that he used to sit on info for a long time about persons in power to use it as a threat or coercion, or am I wrong. I lost faith in the FBI many many moons ago.

  44. JC

    It’s true that the crimes of the son don’t directly accrue to the father. In this case though, the alleged crimes do have something to do with Hiden himself because the grubby son was trafficking in the father’s name. Did the father know about this? There are strong suggestions he did. But even if the claims cant be proven, the potential national security risk is absolutely enormous.

    Hidens need to come out and tell the punters if the email cache is real or they’re fakes. People need to know in order to help them determine whom they vote for. Dementia can’t keep hiden behind a mask anymore.

  45. C.L.

    It is a shame that they are pushing the seedier allegations. If the evidence of Biden enriching himself is valid then that should be enough. I suspect the seedy allegations are being put out to try and get people’s attention. No one ever went broke underestimating people.

    This.

  46. Jannie

    Joe Biden is a grub by association and its working out for Kamala.

  47. Dot

    I think C.L. is correct.

    The public don’t want corruption, but they also don’t like child abuse.

    But, they can vote against a guy who is corrupt, but they might want to give someone accused of a crime and not running for office, a fair trial.

    They’re not on target anymore, despite how brutal the point scoring by Trump may be.

  48. David Brewer

    Sinc is usually onto something.

    Rudy is giving his side of the story on his daily radio show, Chat with the Mayor, here.

    Yesterday’s show is about this again. In substance:

    I (Rudy) am stunned by the level of cover-up of this story by the American media. I’ve have been telling you for months that Joe Biden has been taking bribes for 30 years. That’s exactly the same amount of time Hunter says it’s been going on in his e-mail to his daughter.

    Hunter was a bagman – the person who takes the money and goes to prison if caught. If Joe Biden is such a good guy, why would he put his son in this position; especially a son that has an addition? Couldn’t Joe have found someone else, and kept it out of the family? There are plenty of people who would have done it for him.

    The word in Ukraine is that Zlochevsky is very pleased with the deals he made. He put out a couple of hundred million dollars in bribes, not just to Joe, but Joe got the prosecutor who was after him sacked, and in the end he, Zlochevsky, has kept $5 billion.

    Maybe our prosecutors should make a deal with Hunter to get to Joe. Maybe, if Joe is a good father, he should take the rap for Hunter.

    Another example of bribery: just 2 or 3 years ago Joe was cut in on a deal by Hunter with a Chinese company in which Joe received 10% of the equity in a $10 million deal, and was going to have an office in the premises. Third example: Joe’s brother Jim got a third of a $1.5 billion housing contract in Iran Obama asked Joe to be “point man” on that country.

    Listening I get the feeling that Rudy loves himself and is having a whale of a time going back to his roots as a ruthless prosecutor. But that doesn’t mean that Joe isn’t as corrupt as hell – in fact, I think he is.

    Is Rudy a Grub for now dobbing in Hunter re interactions with underage girls etc.? Well, yes, and the evidence would hardly be enough to convict – what Hunter said his wife said to her therapist, but then denied saying to the therapist. But remember this is an e-mail to his father who is running for President. It raises questions on a number of levels – Biden’s character, his performance as a father and his treatment of his son, his attitude to evidence of exploitation of very young teenagers by men in their 40s etc. etc.

    It’s all very sleazy and in some ways we would rather not look, but at the same time it’s horrifying that the press and social media can and have shut down all discussion of it for purely partisan motives.

  49. Lee

    Frolicking:

    Except for the Bidens lawyers asking for it back…

    And your evidence for this is…</em>

    Haven’t being paying attention, have you, Felix?

  50. Ed Case

    The FBI has never been any good.
    It’s forerunner was founded by one of the Bonapartes in 1908, Hooverm was just a Blackmailer [and a Mason].
    Evidence given to the 1975 Church Commission was that he was murdered.
    The sex stuff in Hunter sounds legit, but it doesn’t matter. Worst case, he’ll have to register as a Sex Offender.

  51. JC

    I don’t this though. Hiden is almost 78 years old and mentally failing by the day. Undoubtedly, they keep him going with drugs. Why the fuck, at his age and in obvious mental decline, whose possibly been corrupt all his political life… why would he run for prez with the risk of all this getting out and ruining him?

  52. I don’t like Rudi Guiliani so Hunter Biden must be innocent. Oh, and the FBI are good guys and have no political agenda at all.

    Sounds legit.

  53. Sinclair Davidson

    I don’t like Rudi Guiliani so Hunter Biden must be innocent.

    I think I’m being verballed here.

    Guiliani has a track record of railroading people.

  54. Kneel

    “…the FBI had been in possession of this hard drive for some time, yet had done nothing.”

    The same FBI that was given a warning from the CIA that the Steele dossier was paid for by HRC, involved getting information from Russians, Russian Intelligence knew that, FBI spoke to the guy that actually provided the information who said it was either fake or “just bar talk”, yet didn’t investigate HRC and instead used that very same information to spy on Trump and lied about it’s validity to the FISA court. That’s the FBI you trust Sinc? You sure you think they’re trustworthy?

    “If the evidence of Biden enriching himself is valid then that should be enough.”

    Even ignoring the malfeasance of accepting a bribe, it is considerably more important that in all likelyhood, Chinese and Russian nationals – if not their Govs – have all the emails as well.

    That’s why this must be addressed and exposed – regardless of whether or not anything can be proven, keeping it under the carpet leaves Biden open to blackmail from two nuclear-armed states that are “enemies” of the US. The US simply cannot have a President exposed in such a way. What if Biden is elected and China starts to become belligerent in the South China Sea again, then tell Biden “We have dirt on you and Hunter you don’t want to come out – look the other way and shut up, or else”? What if he does, then China wants to invade Australia? That’s a major national security risk for the USA, NATO and Australia – the whole freaking world!

    This MUST be investigated and the results made public, regardless of before or after the election and regardless of whether it’s true or not.

  55. JC

    Guiliani has a track record of railroading people.

    When he was prosecutor, sure.

  56. JC

    Sinclair.

    I think we’re losing sight of the big kahuna here. Are those emails fake or real? The grubby prosecutor story isn’t really relevant.

  57. Leon L

    The DNI John Radcliffe says the laptop is not Russian disinformation.
    https://nypost.com/2020/10/19/john-ratcliffe-info-on-hunter-biden-laptop-not-russian-disinformation/

    Given what is in the public arena right now, whether Giuliani is a grub is not the right question.
    The FBI has been sitting on this since December last year and through “impeachment”.
    Biden and his campaign have gone to ground for 4 days.
    No questions permitted by the MSM.
    No denials have been I ssued.
    Imagine this was Trump and not Biden.
    An arrest would have been made by now.

  58. Leigh Lowe

    If fact, we had been assured that the FBI had been in possession of this hard drive for some time, yet had done nothing.

    Are you presenting this as a pro or a con, Sinc?

  59. Mak Siccar

    JC
    #3627594, posted on October 21, 2020 at 7:01 pm
    Sinclair.

    I think we’re losing sight of the big kahuna here. Are those emails fake or real? The grubby prosecutor story isn’t really relevant.

    +100

  60. FelixKruell

    JC:

    Are the claims lies, Dickhead?
    Giuliani and the store owner have evidence of a phone call and email to support this.

    If they’re coming from Giuliani, they probably are lies, yes.

  61. Boxcar

    In the tinfoil hat world, Biden is the perfect candidate.
    If he loses, other potentials are saved for future battles.
    If he wins, he will have to step down for any number of reasons.
    This looks like a reason.

  62. FelixKruell

    Lee:

    It was a simple question…don’t you have the answer?

  63. JC

    If they’re coming from Giuliani, they probably are lies, yes.

    Like you said, Pell was lying and the High Court didn’t say he was innocent, no?

    Jeez, you’re a grub.

  64. Sinclair Davidson

    Are those emails fake or real?

    I have no idea.

    I think we’re losing sight of the big kahuna here.

    Indeed. Joe is the target here, not Hunter. Naughty pictures on Hunter’s computer – even if they are real – is a distraction.

  65. Joanna Smythe

    Couldn’t care less if Rudi is a grub. If what he is doing helps get PDT over the line and keeps Biden and the Socialists out of the White House, so be it.

  66. JC

    Indeed. Joe is the target here, not Hunter. Naughty pictures on Hunter’s computer – even if they are real – is a distraction.

    True, but this is 2020 and since 2016, the demonrats have eliminated all rules, so you play by their rules. Everything is now on the table.

  67. Leo G

    The presidential action recognizes that the Milken prosecution of the late 1980s-early 1990s was an example of prosecutorial excess in an era like our own when political gales were raging about “the greed decade.”

    Milken conceded that he was guilty but at sentencing argued that the vast majority of his business was honest.
    Judge Kimba Wood demurred.
    “You were willing to commit only crimes that were unlikely to be detected.”
    The presidential action is less likely to have been prompted by the lack of the usual lethargy by prosecutors but more likely by Milken’s subsequent philanthropy.

  68. Considering…
    * The FBI’s behaviour that we are aware of over the last 4 years at least (see Flynn saga and Mueller probe)
    * The Biden camp went into a week long hiding as soon as the story came out
    * The media immediately raising Russia Russia Russia as the excuse for the laptop
    * Giuliani saying more will be revealed tomorrow (that’s wednesday US time) and much more by 10 days from the election

    It doesn’t make sense to me that Sinc would post this opinion at this time.
    Why not just wait 24 hours Perfesser?
    Unless…. Sinc has not been paying attention to the finer details of this story.

    Which is fine. But if crap is revealed, Sinc ends up with egg on face.
    So it just doesn’t make sense to me. Why now Sinc? Didn’t you know more was to be released tomorrow?

    p.s. Is anybody else aware that a retired police chief has said he has seen the contents of the laptop HD and it is full of federal crimes.
    Reporters have also seen the HD contents have stated “sexual obsession with minors”

  69. Roger

    Whether he’s a grub or not has no relation to the veracity of the allegations against Hunter Biden based on what is on the laptop.

  70. Oh come on

    Who gives a shit whether he’s a grub or not? Has he got the good oil here – that’s the only question from a political perspective (and a moral perspective, come to think of it).

    Also, this is a bit of a Dog Bites Man revelation – Giuliani is now a very senior political operative working a massive presidential campaign. Of course he’s a grub! His job is to dig up dirt, fling it at the opposition and dirty himself in the process so his boss stays clean. He also needs to be an expert at shoehorning inconveniently shaped facts into a coherent narrative (ie. he needs to be totally fine with lying and cheating whilst getting away with it).

    DC is crawling with people like this, and for every one there are 50 more who would be willing to do whatever it takes – literally anything – but they aren’t up to the job in other respects.

    I’m yet to be convinced that Giuliani is a particularly capable operator, either. He doesn’t seem to be playing in anywhere near the same league as Karl Rove or David Axelrod. Trump’s record of picking competent bag men is not strong (see Michael Cohen).

  71. Clam Chowdah

    Is Rudy a Grub for now dobbing in Hunter re interactions with underage girls etc.? Well, yes,

    Uh… no. That would be a crime. One of the worst. Giuliani may be a grub but that is not the reason. What’s in your damn mind?

  72. Those who are claiming the actions of Hunter the son are irrelevant are forgetting that as a presidential candidate, any potential for blackmail disqualifies Joe for the job. The FBI wouldn’t clear you for most top level federal jobs let alone president if you are a potential blackmail target.

    It’s all fun and games speculating, so lets wait and see. It’s only a few more days. All will be revealed or fizzle out.

  73. Entropy

    Mc
    #3627501, posted on October 21, 2020 at 5:55 pm
    It is a shame that they are pushing the seedier allegations. If the evidence of Biden enriching himself is valid then that should be enough. I suspect the seedy allegations are being put out to try and get people’s attention. No one ever went broke underestimating people

    I agree on two levels: this behaviour is separate from the Bidens using their position in the swamp to enrich themselves; and this aspect of the hard drive evidence might be directing the investigation into this area and a different part of the FBI altogether. And could explain the delay in prosecutions without the need for conspiracy accusations.

  74. RobK

    Lawyers and politicians use the term “muddy the water”.
    These guys are the experts.

  75. Ed Case

    *** And could explain the delay in prosecutions without the need for conspiracy accusations.***
    How?
    The Sex Crime angle is prima facie, isn’t it?
    Why the delay, unless it’s politically motivated?

  76. Oh come on

    Giuliani was a very good mayor. I don’t buy in the slightest that he’s an exemplar of any particular note beyond the abilities required to be a very good mayor of a city like NY. The whole America’s Mayor thing after 9/11 – that mantle would have been thrust upon any leader willing to turn up at smoking ruins and not be autistic (De Blasio would have totally blown it). I remember in one of the 2008 GOP primary debates – McCain kept calling Giuliani his hero. Was so weird.

  77. JC

    Sinclair really doesn’t like Giuliani and has said over the years. Thinks he’s a fascist goon

  78. Bruce of Newcastle

    Why the delay, unless it’s politically motivated?

    No delay, or not much, as I laid out on the OT.

    Giuliani was only approached in late August, and received the hard drive about 1 Sept give or take. The sucker has something like 40,000 emails and who knows what other files on it. A sea of shit to wade through.

  79. Infidel Tiger King

    Thinks he’s a fascist goon

    Libertarians support De Blasio.

    They love degeneracy, garbage, filth and crime.

  80. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oh, sorry Ed. I see you’re talking about the delay re the FBI sitting on the laptop, not Giuliani reporting the nasty stuff to the police. I think the FBI delay is entirely self explanatory in light of what we know.

  81. Herodotus

    He’s a fascist goon?
    But all those running dogs of the Dems, those ones in the streets looting and destroying, all those DAs indicting people for political reasons, all those Dem governors who are using lockdowns to try to damage Trump.
    They’re not fascist goons?
    I think we’re into the realms of fantasy and topsy-turvy land with this post.

  82. Ed Case

    Yeah, but the FBI has taken zero action, that’s why the Post got the story.
    The evidence is Prima Facie, Hunter makes admissions, so if the FBI didn’t action it in 2 months, they were never going to action it.

  83. stackja

    Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn.

    You know, Rudy Giuliani is effectively a Russian asset at this point.

    Murphy is telling us the former mayor of New York City is a Russian asset. Keep in mind, for 50 years, Rudy Giuliani has worked for the American government at all levels, from local to federal. But now a sitting senator tells us that Giuliani is a traitor, a treasonous Russian spy. It’s too bad you can’t sue sitting senators for libel. Chris Murphy certainly deserves that, at minimum. So does John Brennan, the former CIA director. So does the former director of national intelligence, James Clapper. Clapper is a man who lied under oath to Congress on camera, but was never prosecuted for it because he’s not Roger Stone. Both Brennan and Clapper signed the letter claiming the Russians are behind Hunter Biden’s emails.

  84. Cynic of A

    Jeez, Sinc, you run a great blog here, and often come up with some good stuff.
    But… there are times when you sound exactly like some rabid lefty from “The View” or Biden on a good bullshitting day.

  85. Bruce of Newcastle

    At this rate half the American population are obvious Russian assets.
    I wonder what the pay rate is? Can I sign up?

  86. Nanuestalker

    Strange post,… pointlessly making a point Sinc?. We get it, you wouldn’t have a couple over the wood with Giuliani.

  87. JC

    Herod

    Sinclair has never forgiven Rudi, for how he treated Mike Milken. He has a real point there. He was a prick how he did that. Also, Rudi developed the drama queen perp walk by having people at a trading desk or office, handcuffed and marched out to jail the while having television cameras on location to film the event. Most of these people were found to be innocent.

    He was a reasonable mayor though, I think as I lived through the entirety of his time in office and witnessed the city changing for the good.

    My argument is, Rudi is a prick but even so the emails are very likely to be legit.

  88. Sinclair Davidson

    Sinclair has never forgiven Rudi, for how he treated Mike Milken.

    Yes – and as you say those disgusting perp walk shows he used to put on. Destroyed people’s lives. Everyone who didn’t get intimidated into pleading guilty was eventually found not-guilty.

  89. stemple

    “Sexual obsession with minors” like father like son, corrupt to the core and the hordes all applaud and follow like sheep.

  90. Dot

    Everyone who didn’t get intimidated into pleading guilty was eventually found not-guilty.

    Disgusting.

  91. FelixKruell

    JC:

    Like you said, Pell was lying and the High Court didn’t say he was innocent, no?

    I never said Pell was lying. Not the brightest deity, are you?

  92. Shy Ted

    He’s a lawyer. They get paid by the paying side. You’l be thinking they have morals and scruples next.

  93. mh

    Breitbart headline

    Joe Biden Claims ‘No Basis’ for Hunter Biden Accusations; Cites Romney, Clapper, Brennan

    😆

  94. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Fascinating thread. Forgive my ignorance but what sort of server was Hunter using that stored those emails?

  95. Sinclair Davidson

    He left a computer with all that information at a repair shop.

  96. Scott Osmond

    Which isn’t very bright. But he is or was a crackhead so logical thought may not have been invited to the decision making process.

  97. John Brumbel

    Sinc. If he did leave the computer at the repair shop, he could well have been completely unaware that the computer contained such information. Most services are now cloud-based. If the information was sync’d locally (common) then it’s not a ridiculous notion that someone of Hunter’s age didn’t realise it- thought it was stored on secure systems and he needed to log in to get to it.

  98. vlad

    He left a computer with all that information at a repair shop.

    Any male who uses Apple computers isn’t especially tech savvy.

  99. hzhousewife

    He left a computer with all that information at a repair shop.

    He left a total of three laptops, all water damaged, at the repair shop in Delaware. It was a week or so after a damaging tropical storm (not quite a hurricane). I wonder where Hunter was living at the time – in Daddy’s basement, or nearby perhaps. I gather one of his best buddies is already in jail, and another about to be sentenced – where is Hunter at the moment? Not that I care much, but I’ll probably watch the doco or movie in about 5 years time.

  100. vlad

    Which isn’t very bright. But he is or was a crackhead so logical thought may not have been invited to the decision making process.

    And he’s a Biden, remember. He’s stupid to start with.

  101. Scott Osmond

    Vlad, the Bidens have been protected so long that they probably thought they were untouchable. The left’s culture of impunity on full display.

  102. vlad

    Vlad, the Bidens have been protected so long that they probably thought they were untouchable. The left’s culture of impunity on full display.

    You won’t get any argument from me on that. It’s Sinc who raised leaving the computers for repair as a reason to be sceptical of the story. To me it sounds exactly like something that half-witted screw-ups like the Biden family would do.

  103. gavin

    i thought it was obvious that trump and his re-election is paramount – for the whole world
    btw biden is running for pres so he can’t be prosecuted, and in doing so protects all the other dems and republicans who have profited from his dodgy and treasonous dealings

  104. dover_beach

    He also left his crack pipe and driver’s license in a rent-a-car.

  105. Entropy

    You can just imagine the scenario:
    Laptops got water damaged
    Took them into the shop to get repaired
    Went to the nearest Apple store and got new ones because money is nothing and hey, busy
    Updated all settings on new MacBooks from iCloud backups with a click of a button.
    Forgot about old machines, which figured were stuffed anyway.

    In regard to the FBI, while given recent history delay is plausible, the fact that it appears there was child p34n on there would suggest they would proceed very carefully to make sure they get the bastard. Having recently been involved in a number of fraud cases (as complainant thank you very much) I am amazed how long it takes police to get around to laying charges on cases I thought were straightforward, and how long it gets to be considered by the courts after multiple fronting and then postponements. Judges don’t seem to like to have their nap time interfered with.

  106. Perfidious Albino

    Given the stakes, I think we can look past the character of the messenger. So Rudi is a hardarse who historically hasn’t been afraid to break a few eggs to make a ‘greater good’ omelette, I can live with that in the current circumstances. New Yorkers were happy enough on balance to elect him Mayor, notwithstanding anything else. Agree with Mole, we can’t spare Rudi, he fights – and this is the fight of our lives.

  107. Rabbi Putin

    If the US is like Australia you could be criminally liable if you don’t alert authorities to the presence of such material on a laptop if you were aware of it. Sounds like Giuliani did the right thing, and in any event, this is basically a cold civil war at this point and I’m glad the grub is on our side. This isn’t Care-Bears.

  108. pbw

    Also, the Biden campaign has not denied that the laptop belongs to Hunter Biden. A minor point. As we know, those Russians are great at faking photos.

  109. C.L.

    Via Tim Blair:

    GOP senate candidate confirms Delaware police have found child pRon on the laptop:

    https://twitter.com/LaurenWitzkeDE/status/1318735174851563520

  110. Albatross

    Am I missing the connection here? Assuming Giuliani a cad and a bounder. What does this have to do with Biden corruption?

  111. Mitch M.

    In the beginning there was Birther Gate.
    Then was was Pizza Gate,
    Russia Gate
    Gates Gate: Bill Gates evil plan to control the world through his nefarious charities. You real evil things like vaccinating a whole nation.
    Covid Gate: the pandemic is an evil means the Left is using to take control of the p0pulace.
    HCG Gate: so many people here proclaiming that the medical profession was in a vast conspiracy to prevent the use of HCQ.
    Now there is Biden Gate which I read 1 hour ago someone claiming 25,000 pictures of child sexual abuse and torture.
    Now there is Bin Laden Gate with Trump arguing he was never killed.

  112. Mitch M.

    And now we have Giuliani Gate!

    Rudy Giuliani faces questions after compromising scene in new Borat film

    After she removes his microphone, Giuliani, 76, can be seen lying back on the bed, fiddling with his untucked shirt and reaching into his trousers. They are then interrupted by Borat who runs in and says: “She’s 15. She’s too old for you.”

  113. Terry

    @Mitch
    Yep. The Democrat-Media-Industrial-Complex (“Deep State”) is full of swell, fine, upstanding citizens (totally not traitorous swamp-filth); any effort to highlight the evidence suggesting otherwise is “Conspiracy Theory” because: reasons.

    Trump Derangement Syndrome eats the Prefrontal Cortex first, on the way to indoctrinating you as a mindless, full-card-carrying member of the horde.

    #welcometothezombieapocalypse

  114. Ed Case

    The Guiliani story is disturbing, he didn’t catch on that he was being set up by Cohen, which may suggest that this type of scenario wasn’t exactly out of the ordinary [for Rudy].
    Pat Buchanan was another SBC victim who didn’t jerry, perhaps these Con Inc. types aren’t too bright?

  115. A Lurker

    GOP senate candidate confirms Delaware police have found child pRon on the laptop:

    He’s a Democrat, which is why I am not surprised by this revelation. After all, his daddy is big time into fondling, and smelling children’s hair.

  116. Seza

    So the left-wing media will protect the drug-addled, corrupt son of their candidate, but will go after the adopted children of a possible appointment that they don’t like?
    I am incandescent with rage at this.

  117. Allan Charles

    Milken was found guilty. Trump pardoned him. His conviction was not overturned. A conviction is based on evidence. Why are you not criticizing the judge for the conviction?

  118. Jock

    Rudy may be a grub. But biden is pond scum. Nay. Lower than pond scum. What sort of father uses his drug addled idiot son to tout for cash from China and other despotic regimes? But the Joe is like a hound dog. Not smart but he can smell cash a kilometre away. A tougher that the democrats can be proud of.

  119. Sinclair Davidson

    Milken was found guilty.

    Milken was NOT found guilty – he pleaded guilty.

    Always a mistake to plead guilty.

  120. DD

    The assumption underlying all this discussion is that the laptop photos are all of Hunter. Why should we think this way?

  121. Sinclair Davidson

    What does this have to do with Biden corruption?

    Its a hook. So I can criticise Guiliani again.

  122. Lee

    Lee:

    It was a simple question…don’t you have the answer?

    Felix, I can’t help it if you have missed all the reports about Hunter Biden asking for/demanding his computer hard drive back.

  123. Clam Chowdah

    Well THAT’S embarrassing. Still irrelevant if the hard drive revelations are validated.

  124. Zatara

    He also left his crack pipe and driver’s license in a rent-a-car.

    That’s not all he left.

    Instead of returning the car keys to the drop box where after-hours returns are supposed to go, the car was returned—according to the police report—with the keys left in the gas tank compartment of the vehicle. Also found inside the vehicle, per the police report, were two drivers’ licenses both bearing Hunter Biden’s legal name Robert Biden, as well as “some credit cards with the same name,” “a secret service business card,” and an “Attorney General’s badge” all contained inside a wallet that Hertz rental employees discovered—along with a pipe that Hertz employees thought and police later confirmed was used to smoke illicit drugs, as well as “a white powdery substance in the arm rest of the vehicle.”

    Despite the overwhelming evidence after an investigation which included two Prescott Police Department officers and a detective, local authorities in both the city and county attorney’s offices declined to prosecute the case.

    Forget the drugs for a moment, nobody has ever explained what he was doing in possession of that badge.

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