Open Thread: October 24, 2020

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  1. Lysander

    Someone yesterday posted a comment about a docco they watched on President and all of the crap they’ve tried to stir up against Trump… anyone got a link? Need to find it!!!

  2. The @Betfair app is having issues.
    Won’t load right, I can’t deposit on it.
    No issues using their website though.
    Weird.

  3. mh

    Thanks.

    Speaking of betting, the LNP are $3.50.
    I’m not seeing it that way.

  4. cohenite

    That ruling, made by AAT Deputy President Jan Redfern and AAT part-time member Alison Murphy, set aside the ministerial deportation decision and substituted it with a decision not to cancel the Apex gang member’s visa.

    Naturally no consequences accrue to these 2 kunts. Amazing really; the left are only virtuous as long as they don’t endure any personal blowback from their virtue and other people bear the cost of that virtue.

  5. jupes

    A dangerous Apex gang member saved from deportation by the Administrative Appeals Tribunal has gone on to commit more crimes of violence.

    Australia would be a much better place without the AAT.

    Get rid of the oxygen thieves.

  6. mh

    In a series of appearances on breakfast television shows, he doubled down on comments made to News Corp that border closures on a state-by-state basis were “killing jobs” and the economy.

    Mr Beattie said he was “not being critical of what’s happened in the past, but we’re now at a junction where we’ve got to be Australians”.

    “Frankly, if we don’t open up, then Australia is going to go broke. It’s a fact. It’s not a political comment,” Mr Beattie told ABC’s News Breakfast.

    Asked whether a former Labor leader telling a current one to follow the lead of a NSW Liberal government could ever not be political, Mr Beattie said “whoever wins the Queensland election” would be “faced with an economic tsunami”.

    “The reality is that the method adopted by the NSW government, and I couldn’t care about the political persuasion, [shows] that contact tracing works,” he said.

  7. twostix

    Kids school attempted to put the children in “lockdown” today because it was raining. A new milestone for escalating “lockdown” lunacy running rampant.

    The sent out an SMS to parents attempting to tell us we wouldn’t be allowed to pick our kids up after school until they released them from “lockdown”.

    My kids were home at 2:25. Last we heard the “lockdown” lasted 40 minutes after school finished. Pity the pathetic creatures who obediently allow the school to literally hold their children prisoner from them. This level of obedience is normal now though.

    This lockdown stuff runs so much deeper than is being imagined. If you want to understand Daniel Andrews “lockdown”, you’re going to have to start ten years ago when thousands of schools across the nation started staging “lockdown” drills, forcing kindergarten babes into darkened locked rooms and telling them to be quiet because they’re in danger, on a regular basis.

  8. Kids school attempted to put the children in “lockdown” today because it was raining. A new milestone for escalating “lockdown” lunacy running rampant.

    What the heck was the rationale for the ‘lockdown’?

    (I’m looking for some logic, no matter how twisted)

  9. Infidel Tiger

    7 days to save the world.

  10. twostix

    “Lockdowns” are orgasmic pleasure for sadomasochistic bugmen administrators. They use their control of the system to cruely terrorise the people – even five year olds, trapped within the system, and explain that they must do it to them, no matter what.

  11. Lysander

    Found it on Amazon Prime:

    The Plot Against the President.

    Over and out.

  12. dover_beach

    [Trump] Played this video at today’s rally in Allentown, Pennsylvania—a must watch!

    Brilliant ad. The emails also make Biden’s sychophancy towards China intelligible.

  13. Steve trickler

    Buried in the goolag algo basement.



  14. twostix

    What the heck was the rationale for the ‘lockdown’?

    The rationale was rain and storms.

    The school today decided that it is superior to parents, I.e it declared you wouldn’t be allowed to pick your kids up because there was maybe a rain storm coming, so all children would be on “lockdown” inside until the school said it was safe and then you would then be allowed to pick them up.

    The mrs was down there yanking our kids out of class within five minutes of getting the message – the secret power of stay at home mums.

    Incidentally the storm never was, it just poured with rain as per November usual and the daughter attended ballet and the boys went to the shops while their classmates sat locked in their classroom “locked down” while their parents waited in the cars or buses outside parked in the pouring rain outside the school – waiting for their children to be released from rain “lockdown”.

    Fucking weird man. I mean, we haven’t explored the depths of whatever is going on in our society yet but we’re starting to see.

  15. dover_beach

    Indeed, OCO. He fell for Peegate. LOL.

  16. cohenite

    Steve trickler
    #3635107, posted on October 27, 2020 at 10:42 pm
    Classic.

    Just think Australian pollies banned this guy.

  17. twostix

    In a series of appearances on breakfast television shows, he doubled down on comments made to News Corp that border closures on a state-by-state basis were “killing jobs” and the economy.

    Boooring.

    Jobs, “economy”, very 2010.

    When I read stuff like this all I can think is, so if it didn’t bother the “economy”, this would all be totally ok?

    No. It’s not ok, none of it is acceptable.

    Retarded state Premiers do not have the power to imprison entire populations in their houses or force them into muzzles or put up mini borders.

    That’s enough to start and finish this with. The problem is the establishment has made talk of freedoms so gauche, so, ugh American, that it literally can’t even broach the subject.

    So all we hear about is “the economy”, and the everyman watches as the government produces a trillion dollars and…nothing bad happens and he shrugs and goes back to playing PS5.

  18. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Naturally no consequences accrue to these 2 kunts.

    They’ll live in the leafy green suburbs, with private security on call…

  19. Dot

    Rain continuing in NSW tomorrow.

    Lock it down, champs.

    The science is settled!

  20. Geriatric Mayfly

    Helen. Your record as a bird rescue service made for fascinating reading. Had to look up the RR Kingfisher.
    Betimes, when I am out fishing, Hopkins comes to mind:’ As kingfishers catch fire, dragon flies draw flame.’

  21. Dot

    Of course civil rights and prosperity are linked.

    Look at Victoria vs Texas!

  22. twostix

    Both sides of party politics are terrified of igniting the “debate” about our ancient freedoms (now completely abolished), which in Australia means talking about where they came from (the mother country) and the limits on government power and why they were put there.

    That’s why the stick strictly to “the economy”, all of those points, and conversations lead directly back to where we were mentally 50 years ago.

    Instead everything is ok as long as there’s “jobs” (Soviet Russia had “jobs” too)

  23. thefrollickingmole

    Unfortunately found out Mum and her hubby are in the “sneakers keeps us safe” camp again after my last deprogramming effort.
    Relentless 24/7 propaganda will do that.

  24. jupes

    The school today decided that it is superior to parents, I.e it declared you wouldn’t be allowed to pick your kids up because there was maybe a rain storm coming, so all children would be on “lockdown” inside until the school said it was safe and then you would then be allowed to pick them up.

    Just fucking wow.

    Where do they get the authority to do that? When did they repeal the law against kidnap / deprivation of liberty?

  25. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Lame pics.

    Hey, listen, if that kid who can shear 105 sheep at 13, if he’s ever looking for a job…Nine bucks a head is the going rate…

  26. Knuckle Dragger

    Goddamn plovers are nesting again.

    Winged one on the 15th fairway with a 7 iron. All it did was circle back to its nest on a slightly furrier patch of grass than the rest and bitch at me.

  27. twostix

    Of course civil rights and prosperity are linked.

    ?

    Freedom tends to create prosperity, it isn’t caused by it.

    Unearned material wealth destroys freedom. Australia is drowning in hoardes of middleclass bugmen wallowing around in the proceeds of wealth sloshing around in the country that they did little to earn or create.

    It drives them mad and they vote green.

  28. Mark A

    A bit macabre.

    A man who just died is delivered to a local mortuary wearing an expensive, expertly tailored black suit.

    The mortician asks the deceased’s wife how she would like the body dressed.
    She points out that the man does look good in the black suit he is already wearing.

    The widow, however, says that she always thought her husband looked his best in blue and that she wants him in a blue suit.
    She gives the mortician a blank check and says, “I don’t care what it costs, but please have my husband in a blue suit for the viewing.”

    The woman returns the next day for the wake. To her delight, she finds her husband dressed in a gorgeous blue suit with a subtle chalk stripe; the suit fits him perfectly.

    She says to the mortician, “Whatever this cost, I’m very satisfied. You did an excellent job and I’m very grateful. How much did you spend?” To her astonishment, the mortician presents her with the blank check. “There’s no charge,” she says. ”
    No, really, I must compensate you for the cost of that exquisite blue suit!” she says.

    “Honestly, ma’am,” the mortician says, “it cost nothing. You see, a deceased gentleman of about your husband’s size was brought in shortly after you left yesterday, and he was wearing an attractive blue suit.

    I asked his wife if she minded him going to his grave wearing a black suit instead, and she said it made no difference as long as he looked nice.”
    “So I just switched the heads.”

  29. mh

    Aspiring rapper dead

    The body of an aspiring rapper who went missing earlier this month was found in the trunk of his friend’s car after it crashed on a Florida expressway, authorities said Monday.

    State Highway Patrol troopers discovered 25-year-old Brian Trotter’s remains after smelling a “foul odor” and spotting flies buzzing around inside an Acura that got into an accident in suburban Miami on Sunday afternoon, the Miami Herald reported.

    The driver, Robert Avery Coltrain — a longtime friend of the young musician — was charged with second-degree murder and illegal transport of human remains.

    Trotter, who went by the hip-hop name Kent Won’t Stop, disappeared from Triangle, Virginia, on Oct. 17 after being picked up by Coltrain from his home, where he lived with his father…

    https://nypost.com/2020/10/26/body-of-missing-rapper-found-in-truck-of-friends-car-following-crash/

    Dear rapper stories mean any Rick Ross video can be posted

  30. Dot

    Freedom tends to create prosperity, it isn’t caused by it.

    You’re right.

    Unearned material wealth destroys freedom.

    BUT generally, someone’s not free if that’s happening, particularly systematically or on a large scale.

    Paying more than 50% of your income in tax: Hodge Twins called it modern day slavery, today.

    There’s a limit to make work jobs and graft if taxes, public spending and public debt are at sensible (low) levels.

  31. twostix

    Where do they get the authority to do that? When did they repeal the law against kidnap / deprivation of liberty?

    It was an obvious power grab, a leveling up of the schools ‘lockdown’ powers (i don’t doubt many schools tried it on today).

    If you made a scene and demanded your kids they wouldn’t physically stop you, this time, maybe?, I’m not actually sure at this point.

    Mums obediently sat in their cars or waited to be told they were allowed to come down.

    But most mums sat at work and looked at the SMS and couldn’t do jack shit anyway because they’re 45 minutes away, and besides, the kid is only going to afterschool care so what’s it matter where they sit?

    This is how things are on the ground.

  32. Oh come on

    You still believe the Steele dossier is legit, right, m0nts?

  33. dover_beach

    Economics uber alles was a miserable failure as a political strategy for the right.

  34. jupes

    It was an obvious power grab, a leveling up of the schools ‘lockdown’ powers (i don’t doubt many schools tried it on today).

    Yes but an illegal power grab. I’d report them to the police as well as the local state and federal members and demand answers.

    Just amazing how quick everyone accepts authority.

  35. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘FREEDOM!’

    He said, from the basement.

  36. twostix

    You turned into a real creep over the last five years m0nty.

    Sad life arc.

  37. Infidel Tiger

    FREEDOM!

    Buying a new couch for the basement?

  38. twostix

    Who can forget that back in February at the start of the troubles, he told us that his wife nervously asked him to go and get an actual job…and he refused!

  39. MatrixTransform

    FREEDOM!

    within a 25 km radius, you cvnt

  40. twostix

    Imagine how that conversation went: “No woman, as a feminist ally I believe in your empowered state to go out into Herr Andrews apocalyptic police state wasteland while I, a mere white man, sit in the spare bedroom and pretend to work while reading about Drumph 23 hours a day”

  41. Infidel Tiger

    Who can forget that back in February at the start of the troubles, he told us that his wife nervously asked him to go and get an actual job…and he refused!

    Covid was a tough time for the fattogram business.

  42. MatrixTransform

    you cvnt

    sorry mUnty, not you personally

    …just people like you

  43. feelthebern

    On the website I am limited to seeing 10 pending bets.

    How many bets do you have on mh?

  44. feelthebern

    snoopy, I didn’t pick up your comment on Pennsylvania was a joke.
    Long day.

  45. feelthebern

    I fell asleep on the couch watching Archer.
    Now its 2am & I’m awake.
    What a disaster.

  46. mh

    Hi Bern, about 13 bets pending. Most of them Trump.

  47. Tom

    Johannes Leak nails the Spring Street sociopath.

  48. Tom

    Haha. David Rowe celebrates ACB’s elevation.

  49. Zyconoclast

    A dangerous Apex gang member saved from deportation by the Administrative Appeals Tribunal has gone on to commit more crimes of violence.

    Australia would be a much better place without the AAT.

    Get rid of the oxygen thieves.

    John Howard 2004-07 could have gutted the entire refugee system.

  50. Ed Case

    $3.50 on the LNP is rubbish.
    Peter Beattie’s late intervention in the campaign tells me Labor is panicking.
    Have a think about it.
    Labor doesn’t hold a Federal Seat north of the Pine River and their Senate Primary vote is 21%. Out of their 51 MPs, 45 could get work in a Freak Show.
    How does that translate into victory Saturday night?

  51. NoFixedAddress

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3635140, posted on October 28, 2020 at 12:11 am

    the slathering at the mouth “thing’ that throws police down stairs, bashes them behind lockers, pretends to say… aahhh no.. i would never du dat

    kriminal kops

  52. Mater

    m0nty
    #3635139, posted on October 28, 2020 at 12:09 am
    FREEDOM!

    Ahhh, Monty. Ever the sarcastic clown.
    Let’s have a look at some history, shall we?

    Lalor’s Speech

    On November 30th 1854, the miners gathered again and in the absence of the leader of the Ballarat Reform League, Irish born Peter Lalor stepped in and delivered his speech calling to workers to stand up for their rights and liberties. This speech was known as the Bakery Hill speech and Lalor was designated Commander in Chief after it.

    Lalor mounted the stump and proclaimed:

    “Liberty!”

  53. egg_

    SBS Foreign News channels:

    Deutsche Welle: COVID-1984 disinformation from Trump

    France 24: Early voting, with Obambi promoting it.

    Part of the swamp

  54. egg_

    The Toyota Hilux (Japanese: トヨタ・ハイラックス, Toyota Hairakkusu) (stylized as HiLux and historically as Hi-Lux)

    Just like LiteAce, TownAce, etc.
    /MaNuEl Ute

    Geez, the 5th Generation lasted 9 years – it was already old by 1994.

    It was during this generation that Toyota discontinued the Hilux in the United States, replacing it with the new Tacoma for the 1995 model year.

    The Yanks p1ssed off the weedy little HiLux in that Generation?

    Engines
    1989–1997: 2.4 L (2,446 cc) 2L-II diesel I4, 66 kW (90 PS; 89 hp) at 4,200 rpm and 167 N⋅m (123 lb⋅ft) at 2,400 rpm[22]
    2.8 L (2,779 cc) 3L diesel I4, 67 kW (91 PS; 90 hp) at 4,000 rpm and 188 N⋅m (139 lb⋅ft) at 2,400 rpm

    Now wonder, with such awesome power underfoot.

  55. egg_

    Labor doesn’t hold a Federal Seat north of the Pine River* and their Senate Primary vote is 21%.

    *KRudd’s “banjo” territory?
    Figures.

  56. 67kw??
    Sheeeit homie, im rolling 355 at the wheels!

  57. rickw

    Where do they get the authority to do that? When did they repeal the law against kidnap / deprivation of liberty?

    Inside every teacher there is a gulag guard waiting to get out.

  58. Win

    Peter Beattie seems desperate to get his nose in the trough once more. He is like a snake shedding its skin every election is a new manifestation of the same old viper.

  59. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Twitter Inc. Chief Executive Officer Jack Dorsey and Facebook Inc. CEO Mark Zuckerberg will defend legal protections granted to technology companies on Wednesday when they testify before a congressional committee about social media’s role in moderating speech online.

    Dorsey, who will appear before the Senate Commerce Committee virtually, will call Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act “the internet’s most important law for free speech and safety,” and argue that repealing the law will lead to more policing of content, not less.

    “We should also be mindful that undermining Section 230 will result in far more removal of online speech and impose severe limitations on our collective ability to address harmful content and protect people online,” Dorsey plans to say, according to his prepared remarks.

    Zuckerberg will make a similar argument. “Platforms would likely censor more content to avoid legal risk and would be less likely to invest in technologies that enable people to express themselves in new ways,” a copy of his testimony reads.

  60. Dot

    You think this COVID/ lockdown BS is bad, wait until strict and absolute liability is thrown in – and then long custodial sentences or massive fines are dealt out as non-indictable offences.

    Kak in die Velt en betaal as our Yarpie chaps would say.

    Strict and absolute liability ought to be illegal – that is they should be unconstitutional.

    In NSW there has been a push recently to move indictable offences down to local courts – that is to say, treat as summary offences with no jury. Only appeals to the district court then CCA could help you.

    No one seems to give a shit.

    We should go the whole hog and make indictments subject to a grand jury. Don’t the authoritarian mainstream left and right live participatory democracy and community standards?

  61. Bruce of Newcastle

    One for Numbers.

    CDC Reveals Hospitals Counted Heart Attacks As COVID-19 Deaths (27 Oct)

    One America’s Pearson Sharp has more, as the CDC counts over 51-thousand patients who actually died from heart attacks, as opposed to the coronavirus.

    As I said before, the incentive of $13,000 or more to report someone as a Covid death would’ve been irresistible.

  62. Mater

    Inside every teacher there is a gulag guard waiting to get out.

    And if conservatives don’t start to overcome their natural placidity and decorousness, and start punching back twice as hard, they’ll find themselves digging the equivalent of the White Sea Canal, from Darwin to Adelaide, and living on gruel.

  63. Dot

    If the Boston Globe endorsed Trump as well, close the lights Joe.

    We won’t let you go any deeper with the boxes of Ziti.

  64. Does anyone know that Nancy Pelosi owns a place called Goat Hill Pizza?
    Hiding in plain sight?

  65. rickw

    Salty Cracker, 8:22, Cardi B terrified from see Trump Supporters peacefully gathering.

  66. Knuckle Dragger

    Normally, I think Goodwyn’s a bit beige in comparison to the Stiglichs, Ramirez (sometimes) and pesecially Lesters that Tom features.

    But not today. Goodwyn today is brilliant.

    And Leak’s piece should be enlarged, laminated and hung underneath every pub/TAB TV screen in Victoria.

  67. Knuckle Dragger

    twostix, overnight and apropos of mUnter:

    ‘Who can forget that back in February at the start of the troubles, he told us that his wife nervously asked him to go and get an actual job…and he refused!’

    That was a belter. Monty’s the Liability Bob of Victoria, only braver.

  68. Mater

    Monty’s the Liability Bob of Victoria, only braver.

    Perhaps, but only slightly.
    Let’s compare:

    Bob:

    I had made some great mates in B Company, and felt some guilt at moving into the relative safety of Admin Company, but in the end was relieved at the less dangerous posting. It sat well with my major goal of getting home in one piece.

    And Monty:

    m0nty
    #3409146, posted on April 13, 2020 at 1:22 pm

    I’m quite capable of facing reality, Monty. Perhaps you should try it. It’s a grown-up thing.

    You may be ready to die Mater, but I have things to live for, like my kids.

  69. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘This speech was known as the Bakery Hill speech and Lalor was designated Commander in Chief after it.’

    Factoid: The Bakery Hill speech only lasted for 90 seconds because it was just too fucking cold in Ballarat to be outside or above ground.

    Bastard place.

  70. egg_

    India and the US have signed a military agreement on sharing sensitive satellite data amid Delhi’s tense border standoff with Beijing.

    Access to such data is considered vital for hitting missiles, drones and other targets with precision.

  71. Mater

    Oh, and JC’s contribution is worth a Mention in Dispatches:

    JC
    #3409181, posted on April 13, 2020 at 1:46 pm

    You may be ready to die Mater, but I have things to live for, like my kids.

    The kids will be fine, Monst. Stop worrying about them. Also a few insensitives would argue, the little ones could be better off in the end.

  72. calli

    As I mentioned yesterday, they’re never going to let this go, it’s too much of a winner. From ABC:

    NSW Health is renewing calls for residents in south-western Sydney to come forward and get tested for coronavirus.

    Fragments of the COVID-19 virus have been found during the state’s sewage surveillance program.

    It could mean there are yet-undetected active cases within communities serviced by the treatment plant

    Doesn’t matter that the area serviced is vast, that the presence of virus is minute or could be the result of shedding or even a false positive. People from these areas can be punished readily by being labelled a “hotspot”, schools and businesses closed, activities curtailed until the required number of individuals front up for “testing”.

    We have all the ingredients for long term tyranny right here. And they don’t even need a police force.

  73. stackja

    Watch Live: Donald Trump Hosts Campaign Rally in Lansing, Michigan

  74. calli

    The fear of “drowning in our bodily juices” has pretty much worn off, apart from some highly localised cellar dwellers.

    Up here the at risk grannies are out and about doing their thing. Some are muzzled, but most walk free. We’ve just had half the state lob in for school holidays and no “cases”.

    It’s over.

  75. rickw

    Tables and Chairs on the footpath in Dickhead Dan’s Prison State!

    (For those businesses that survived Dickhead Dan’s lockdown.)

  76. Inside every teacher there is a gulag guard waiting to get out.

    Which makes about as much sense as –
    “Inside every soldier there is a psychopath waiting to get out”.
    Catallaxy – stereotyping central.

  77. egg_

    Jobs, “economy”, very 2010.

    When I read stuff like this all I can think is, so if it didn’t bother the “economy”, this would all be totally ok?

    Pommie pumpkin pickers not turning up – Romanians, instead.

    Farmers threatening to grow “mechanised” wheat and grains instead.

    /Auto vs MaNuEl

  78. Arky

    And if conservatives don’t start to overcome their natural placidity and decorousness, and start punching back twice as hard,

    ..
    If conservatives don’t start explaining their positions and building new platforms, content and institutions and doing the hard, mundane and long term work of defending basic principles and values, then it doesn’t matter if they win this year.

  79. stackja

    Crowd cheers Trump ACB

  80. Arky

    We need a thousand Andrew Breitbarts, and millions of ordinary people employed by them.
    We need companies and institutions that do good things that are explicitly conservative.

  81. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Catallaxy – stereotyping central.’

    Wasn’t it you that said all US Marines were dumb as dogshit?

  82. Mater

    Inside every teacher there is a gulag guard waiting to get out.

    Which makes about as much sense as –
    “Inside every soldier there is a psychopath waiting to get out”.
    Catallaxy – stereotyping central.

    What do you expect? You are one of the few examples we have here, upon which to base our judgement.

    From a sample of one (that’s you!), the contention seems to hold true.

  83. Knuckle Dragger

    Reminder – Ed, on 24 October at 8.39;

    ‘Trump won’t win 50 electoral college votes’

  84. Mater

    Wasn’t it you that said all US Marines were dumb as dogshit?

    In a few extra words, yes.

    1735099
    #622079, posted on October 31, 2012 at 7:51 am

    Jealous of the marines? You’ve got to be kidding. That’s where the jailbirds and dropouts finish up – most over rated mob in history. One digger is worth ten marines, and the cognitive capacity of the Marines I encountered rivalled many year three classes of my experience. Recall the phrase “Tell it to the Marines?”
    That has its origin in Australian experience during WW2. You could tell them anything – sell them anything.
    They probably stayed on post in Arlington because they needed someone to tell them it was raining…..

  85. Cassie of Sydney

    “And if conservatives don’t start to overcome their natural placidity and decorousness, and start punching back twice as hard, they’ll find themselves digging the equivalent of the White Sea Canal, from Darwin to Adelaide, and living on gruel.”

    Agree…..and the racist from Toowoomba will be drawing up lists…..I’m sure he’s already started

  86. Some History

    Johannes Leak nails the Spring Street sociopath.

    +100

  87. Snoopy

    ‘Catallaxy – stereotyping central.’

    Wasn’t it you that said all US Marines were dumb as dogshit?

    In Bob’s defence, he did post that on Catallaxy.

  88. Struth

    I love the way the media think freedom is being able to book to eat somewhere within 25 k’s. …in a covid safe distanced measure.
    Brilliant.

  89. Mater

    Inside every teacher there is a gulag guard waiting to get out.

    Which makes about as much sense as –
    “Inside every soldier there is a psychopath waiting to get out”.
    Catallaxy – stereotyping central.

    Gulags in the outback anyone?

    From Bob’s blog:

    I worked in communities like Aurukun for a while in the nineties, and have a basic understanding of the conditions these kids are growing up in. The situation is completely disgraceful, but not as disgraceful as the behaviour of the majority of Australians who couldn’t give a proverbial.

    What’s to be done? How about a form of compulsory service for all twenty year olds – men and women – to be spent on designated communities enhancing the quality of life of the residents? It was OK thirty-five years ago to keep an obscure Asian nation free of the grasp of Communism. What’s wrong with dealing with a tragedy on our own soil that is happening now, rather than trying to prevent something that might occur in the future?

  90. The Hunter Biden October Surprise was officially a fizzer.

    It’s as if Biden is president already, the news is boring.

  91. feelthebern

    Alex Jones on Joe Rogan.

  92. notafan

    Conscripted volunteering.

    Laughable.
    The truth is many wide eyed young people go work in outback communities, if they last two three years it’s a lifetime. Nothing beats adults taking personal responsibility for their own behaviour.

  93. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Recall the phrase “Tell it to the Marines?” That has its origin in Australian experience during WW2’

    Ah yes. I’d overlooked that little gem/lie/I write for an audience pearler. Ten seconds of interwebby (yes, Wiki, but it’s in keeping with the old coward’s research skills) reveals:

    ‘”Tell it to the Marines” is an English-language idiom, originally with reference to Britain’s Royal Marines, connoting that the person addressed is not to be believed. The full phrase is “tell it to the marines because the sailors won’t believe you”, but only the first clause is usually given, standing for the whole.

    ‘The earliest published use of the phrase is in 1804 in John Davis’s novel The Post Captain; or, the Wooden Walls Well Manned; Comprehending a View of Naval Society and Manners: “You may tell that to the marines … may I be d—-d if the sailors will believe it”,[2] and several similar shorter phrases in speeches by characters.’

    But sure. The Australian experience with the USMC 140 years later. Let’s run with your version, right Old Yeller?

  94. egg_

    I love the way the media think freedom is being able to book to eat somewhere within 25 k’s. …in a covid safe distanced measure.

    This Nanny State curtailment of liberties goes back to at least the 90s when ‘Ozone Man’ Al Gore stopped you regassing your own car aircon ’cause da ‘vironment!

    Ironically, one of the best available approved refrigerants is CO2.

  95. min

    Loved Leak just wish he had added the donuts in the box along with the whisky .

  96. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I have never told a lie on this blog.’

    In blog management’s own words, Liability Bob – suck it up.

  97. Shy Ted

    A bit marginal but did you know Married With Children was written as a likely short-lived budget comedy pilot encompassing all the stereotypes which eventually ran for 259 episodes (substantially all the same) and 11 seasons. “Al Bundy” wanted the original child actors replaced because of “lack of chemistry”, got his way and the best comedy of all time was born. POTUS45 really needs to have it as his theme tune and as the intro to all ABC programs.

  98. feelthebern

    This will get 30mill total views pre election.

  99. dover_beach

    BREAKING: New audio of Hunter Biden talking about his partner “the f**king spy chief of China”

    “I’m receiving calls from SDNY” @TheNatPulse

    The grift is real.

  100. Rex Mango

    Just listening to ABC RN Breakfast with Frank Elly interviewing Chris Masters about the Crompveots Report into war crimes in Afghan. It seems Samantha Crompvoets has now produced a report. Why wouldn’t she? Dr Crompveots is a psych with an agenda who was called in to do a report on ‘cultural change’ (ie find a way to get girls in) into special forces back in 2016. Talk about putting a viper to your chest. Think Angus Campbell was the idiot who organised this lunacy. Four years later she is doing a report about war crimes based on second hand stories. Pretty sure she has not put a foot into Afghan. This complete madness. Of course Crompvoets will find this stuff out, as she needs to keep herself employed. Here is her CV. The bit where it says, war crimes investigator/police/lawyer is missing:

    https://www.rapidcontext.com.au/samantha-crompvoets

    https://www.rapidcontext.com.au/samantha-crompvoets

  101. notafan

    Yes KD
    Mentioned other day phrase was used in prewar Dorothy K Sayers novel I just finished.

    Am currently reason Master and Commander and have read quite a few other books in the genre.

    Sailors and marines served on the same tiny ships in the British Navy.

  102. Eyrie

    Shy Ted, what’s that thing called? A Mass Spewometer?

  103. Bruce of Newcastle

    Toy Story is racist.

    ‘Toy of Genocide:’ Disney Under Pressure to Remove Woody from Toy Story for Crimes Against Native Americans (26 Oct)

    Disney is under pressure to remove Woody from Toy Story for what people call “crimes against Native Americans.”

    Woody is the beloved toy cowboy character voiced by Tom Hanks in the Toy Story movies.

    The controversy began after Disney added warnings of racism last week to the beginnings of classic films on Disney+. The movies included Dumbo, Peter Pan, Swiss Family Robinson, and The Aristocats.

    See if you can work out what word I left out of the headline…

  104. Oh come on

    Some genuine, quality, crowd-funded polling data from a non-fraud – the People’s Pundit. Tipsters here would do well to follow. Really granular stuff, county by county. Good critiques of pollsters, good explanations of why the 10+ point Biden leads are being posted by public pollsters. Gives a very interesting insight into the peer group pressure being felt by pollsters coming from super-influencers like Nate Silver. There is a great deal of bullying, threatening and smearing going on to pressure individual pollsters to “mirror” the polls showing a huge Biden lead. If you’re wondering how these Biden leads could exist across the polling spectrum despite all of the evidence to the contrary, watch this.

    He also makes an interesting point about Trump’s black support. In past elections, blacks have flirted with voting for Republican candidates and so polls have shown a surge in black support for that candidate, however this support disappears in the polling close to the election like now, and the black support reverts back to the mean for a GOP candidate, ie 10-15%, which goes on to be the result at the ballot box. This guy is saying that his polling older blacks (65+) are currently polling the standard 10-15% for Trump, and their high turnout makes up for their smaller numbers. HOWEVER, the surge in support for Trump amongst younger blacks (18-29 and 30-64) – particularly amongst younger black men – HASN’T dropped off at this late stage, which he says never happens. He’s calling it a realignment election.

  105. stackja

    Trump crowd chant USA!

  106. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘The movies included Dumbo, Peter Pan, Swiss Family Robinson, and The Aristocats.’

    What? The Swiss Family Robinson? Racist cats? FMD.

    There are no ranga penguins in Happy Feet. To the barricades!

  107. calli

    See if you can work out what word I left out of the headline…

    😀

    Woody will never go – Tom Hanks.

    Now Buzz, on the other hand is Tim Allen. “Crimes against Aliens” has a nice “let them stay” ring to it.

    Shame Bo Peep wasn’t voiced by Alley. The vegans could cancel her without a qualm.

  108. Oh come on

    I didn’t know this happened – yesterday, Trump held THREE rallies in Pennsylvania. Biden felt it was necessary to ‘take the lid off’ his campaign and hold an event in Pennsylvania, too. It was a train wreck. Here are some lowlights. Lots of horns. Really awkward.

  109. stackja

    John E James for USA Senate.

  110. Oh come on

    Trump has driven Biden out of his basement and forced his campaign to get him back on the trail to go and hold a rally in Pennsylvania! But no, that isn’t an indication of concern or alarm from the Biden camp, no sir, not at all.

  111. notafan

    You have a bit of a thing about rangas KD and you admit to shaving your bonce.

    Something you’re not telling us?

  112. 1735099

    Gulags in the outback

    One of my better ideas.
    It always makes more sense to harness youthful energy and enthusiasm to sort problems in your own backyard than to send them overseas to fail to sort out somebody else’s issues.
    It probably wouldn’t have cost two hundred lives.
    Charity begins at home.

  113. dianeh

    Sorry publishing fail on the link above. But it still works.

  114. Knuckle Dragger

    *gasps*

    Well nota, and this is timely:

    If and when I decide to sports a superbly handsome yet well-manicured totally non-hipster beard (about once every five years until the novelty wears off), in its splendour there are three or four rogue ranga hairs in there.

    It’s a great leveller. Humanity is frail.

  115. stackja

    Trump needed to identify to vote.

  116. Dot

    Ted

    That is news you can use.

    Al Bundy.

    The hero we didn’t ask for, but we needed.

    Thanks.

  117. Dr Faustus

    Peter Beattie’s late intervention in the campaign tells me Labor is panicking.

    Tells me it was carefully staged to offset the Victorian ALP Rona shit show and make Palacechook’s Nov1 border reopening look like deft economic management rather than cynical, larf-in-your-face politics. Beattie does his usual hokey impression of an honest, plain-speaking servant of the public interest.

    Gels too neatly with Labor’s late campaign TV ads showing Frecklington ‘opening the border’ in July and Palacechook ‘prepared to loose the election to keep Queenslanders safe’.

  118. Oh come on

    Meanwhile, back in Australia, the Sydney Morning Herald reports:

    Watch the US Senate: why Trump could lose both houses

    I have a feeling that reality is going to mug an awful lot of people soon.

  119. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘makes more sense to harness youthful energy and enthusiasm’

    Thus excluding himself. Again.

    Tell it to the Marines, you weak little person.

  120. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #3635264, posted on October 28, 2020 at 8:14 am
    The Hunter Biden October Surprise was officially a fizzer.

    It’s as if Biden is president already, the news is boring.

    So how much have you bet on Biden? You have to recoup the $50,000 that you claim the Kung Flu has cost you this year somehow, how much easier than a sure bet? Perhaps Armadillo can help you?

  121. feelthebern

    Alex Jones making spotify heads explode.

  122. Knuckle Dragger

    Liability Bob’s Outback Experience:

    Drove through CQ coal towns once. Used that insight to opine that Bob Brown’s diesel-powered renewables convoy was a top idea.

  123. calli

    I’m the proud mother of rangas. Alpha rangas. Your worst nightmare. World domination is their ambition, but their blonde sibling just might get there first.

    On mumbling Joe. What’s going on there? Listing to old tapes, he’s always been a word slurrer as if his mouth can’t keep up with his brain. Now it’s the opposite, he looks lost.

    The problem for Trump’s campaign is that people all remember the “sick Hillary” stuff, yet here she is, still witchy-poohing strongly. It’s hard to reprise all that, even for a genuinely incapacitated rival.

  124. egg_

    So much for local Agriculture.

    Australia imports the majority of its cut flowers, many from Kenya, Colombia and Ecuador. Some in the cut flower industry fear imported blooms could lead to a biosecurity breach. The Federal Department of Agriculture says no pests from imported flowers have got past inspections at the border.

  125. Oh come on

    Biden’s off to Georgia to hold a rally there today. Wow. He’s out campaigning again. Why would he do that, given all of the mainstream public polls give him a 10+ point lead over Trump? It’s as though his campaign people know something that the pollsters aren’t telling us.

  126. Mother Lode

    Mater
    #3635190, posted on October 28, 2020 at 6:10 am

    Ahhh, Monty. Ever the sarcastic clown.
    Let’s have a look at some history, shall we?

    Lalor’s Speech

    On November 30th 1854, the miners gathered again and in the absence of the leader of the Ballarat Reform League, Irish born Peter Lalor stepped in and delivered his speech calling to workers to stand up for their rights and liberties. This speech was known as the Bakery Hill speech and Lalor was designated Commander in Chief after it.

    Link to Mater’s comment here.

    You can see how ingrained the representation of Eureka as a part of wukkaz (and hence unions and Labor) lore has become. Complete bollocks, of course.

    Lalor called upon his fellow diggers.

    They weren’t wukkaz being oppressed by a savage and cruel employer. They were small businessmen, sole operators risking their own capital in search of their own reward, being persecuted by grasping and malign government.

    And as soon as they could, what did the unions do? Formed a political party and become part of government. And what has Labor and the unions done ever since? Persecuted private business to attain increased control over every aspect and to buy members’ support with unending pay claims to bleed businesses white and leave them gasping.

    Labor and the unions are not heirs to the Stockade’s legacy. They would be at home on the other side.

  127. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Knuckle Dragger on October 27 at 8:41 am :

    “Steve Smith. Prolific batsman.

    Also a shit bloke, a wearer of hair product, a gullible dollar-chasing fuckwit, a Chai-nerr shill and a cheat.

    ‘High-profile stars including Australian cricketer Steve Smith, former AFLW star Moana Hope and comedian Gen Fricker are backing the controversial marketing push.

    Fuck off. Just fuck off, Smith. Cheating the Australian public, yet again.”

    Hear, hear.

    His agent continues the campaign to re-instal Smith as fabulous, using persuasive arguments such as how much money he has made (from Mickey Mouse tattooed boofhead bash “cricket”, from his real estate mansions, from his lovely family photos in Wymminses Weeply, from whatever this bedding scam is about – money is applause in his world) yet the man-boy is without honour and will forever remain that, a deceitful, dishonest, untrustworthy, weak sobbing cheat.

    I must add – why would anyone consider using AWFUL “star” Moaner no Hoper to flog anything? She’s a snarling whinger who played a dozen games of hit miss and giggle in a local park at Box Hill wearing an AFL men’s jersey and likely won a wymminses Brownlow Medal fashioned from Alfoil, for kicking a ball a full 10 metres, once. The nobody is a “star” only for walking out on Mick Malthouse, AFL icon, in a sports show because he knew nothing about AFL. 😁

    She’s a freak show member too, pretending she’s stuck her non existent penis in some sheila to produce a brat.

  128. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Samantha Crompvoets has now produced a report. Why wouldn’t she? Dr Crompveots is a psych with an agenda who was called in to do a report on ‘cultural change’ (ie find a way to get girls in) into special forces back in 2016.

    Riccardo Bosi assesses the expertise of Perfesser Crumpet.

  129. calli

    Listing= listening

    Egad! It’s catching!

  130. egg_

    Rooting his workmate’s Missus (amongst others) for ten years.

    “A police officer who strangled his long-term lover after she exposed their affair to his wife has been cleared of murder. Timothy Brehmer, a constable with Dorset Police, killed nurse Claire Parry, 41, in a pub car park on 9 May.”

  131. Oh come on

    It’s as if Biden is president already, the news is boring.

    Damn. m0nty, why do you do this to yourself? I’m not saying Trump will win. He does have a good shot, though. You aren’t at all prepared tor this eventuality, are you?

  132. Shy Ted

    If I’m on the jury I will find you not guilty. Quid pro quo.

  133. mh

    Dr Faustus
    #3635296, posted on October 28, 2020 at 8:40 am

    I don’t see it that way.
    Beattie as part of his argument heaped praise on the NSW contract tracing program.
    That is one in the eye for Pony Girl who is in a bitch fight with Gladys.

  134. notafan

    I have a gorgeous ranga child too Calli.
    Others blonde and brunette, none had hair like their mother.

    KD is a gingerbeard.

  135. Rex Anger

    I remember some snippets and leters from Army News about the time Crompvoets’ report Fighting With Words was released.

    It was something of a shock to the Brass at Russell Offices that triumphantly telling the fighting troops they were too white, too male and too violent to truly ‘represent’ modern Australia (as was their mythology) was not popular.

    A young Sapper was given a whole column in the Letters section for his reply, and it was withering. Crompvoets was gien an opportunity to reply, in which she weaselled and tried to dissemble her way out of trouble whe still blaming the nasty white fighting mans. This poured fuel on the fire, and all further mention of genderisation and SJW Convergence bullshit was quietly dropped.

    The Brass learned it was just better to impose measures without fanfare, and just publicly wonder why retention had suddenly collapsed…

    I see with this latest ‘report,’ that the abusive nothingburger that is this Army’s justification for screwing up SOCOMD for more Administrative Officer positions and SJW brownie points has gained an extra shit patty.

  136. Dot

    Iuventus stultorum magister.

    Oh I know BuzzFeed is literal cancer, please forgive me.

    I am trying not to laugh. Nursing pays well here and in the US.

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/otilliasteadman/pandemic-nurses-onlyfans-sex-work

    “We’re In Hard Times Right Now.” Meet The Nursing Students Turning To OnlyFans To Get By.
    “At the end of the day, nobody is paying my rent for me, nobody’s gonna pay my car insurance, my phone bill, my cat food. Nothing.”

    Otillia Steadman
    Otillia Steadman
    BuzzFeed News Reporter
    Posted on October 26, 2020, at 5:53 p.m. ET

    You know what will feel harder?

    🧐😑🙃🤭☺️🤪😅🤯😂🤣😎😘😉😏🍒🦴🌊🌋

  137. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Now here I am lying in bed with a twisted back muscle, hot water bottle offering comfort and Hairy doing sterling nursemaid duties as yesterday I could hardly walk and Hairy bundles me to Dr O’Oirish. Never had any such problem before in my life, so maybe ’twill improve when I get back on estrogen, we t’ink. Maybe overdid that dance class too so remember one is not thirty any more. Meantime, bed rest, panadeine and half a Valium to keep things quiet.

    Thus I am reading the current Spectator cover to cover, a rare luxury compared to my usual dip in and out mode. Thought I should draw attention to an article mentioning mass anti-Covid vaccinations said to be happening in reports from Shanghai. Page 8, article by Oxford Prof Rana Mitter on xi and Covid in China.

  138. Dot

    When Clara thinks about balancing her business as a sex worker and her life as a nursing student, she tries to channel the Disney character Hannah Montana.

    WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK, MATE!?

  139. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Listening to old tapes, he’s always been a word slurrer as if his mouth can’t keep up with his brain

    Geriatric joe has always been an incoherent imbecile – and an utterly vile and staggeringly corrupt one at that.

    These videos are amusing, although given the pathetic ol’ dunderhead’s advanced senility they’re pretty much redundant.

  140. mh

    Biden’s off to Georgia to hold a rally there today.

    Aircraft hangar?

  141. Old Lefty

    Is Judd, who supports this legislation, trying to cover her tracks over the deceased choirboy who said he was never molested?

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-28/victoria-law-change-opposed-by-rape-murder-victim-families/12819732

  142. jupes

    Think Angus Campbell was the idiot who organised this lunacy. Four years later she is doing a report about war crimes based on second hand stories.

    The Special Operations Commander at the time (Sengelman) hired the stupid bint to conduct a review of SF culture in 2016. Campbell may have hired her for some other useless study into the army or ADF, I’m not sure. IIRC she has been paid at least $4mil from the ADF. Dunno who hired her, or what she was paid, to conduct this latest study. Seems utterly ridiculous, considering Brereton is looking into the same thing.

    Just another monumental waste of taxpayer’s money that will achieve nothing, other than to destroy the ADF as an effective fighting force.

  143. Dot

    IIRC she has been paid at least $4mil from the ADF.

    This is mind blowing.

    Pure graft by the insiders.

  144. Rex Anger

    @ Spurgeon Monkfish-

    If ever a government needs to appoint a proper Inspector General of the ADF to unfuck it Ricardo Bosi is the man for the job.

    I would have been very proud to serve under him.

    He nailed the entire matter. What a shame so few are listening…

  145. mh

    Trump’s second rally of the day.
    Speaking now

  146. miltonf

    IIRC she has been paid at least $4mil from the ADF.

    This is mind blowing.

    Pure graft by the insiders.

    Canbra is an abomination. Some here like to slag off about Melbourne but so many of the social problems here including the murder of citizens in the CBD are a direct result of the actions of Canbra. The parasite robber state on the fake lake.

  147. Diogenes

    I have a gorgeous ranga child too Calli.
    Others blonde and brunette, none had hair like their mother.

    Favourite #1 & favourite #2 grandsons are rangas – (picture Dr Smith – Lost in Space) “Oh the shame oh the agony.”

    But on a brighter note, as of this morning favourite No 3 grandchild is now “facebook” official, being at 12 weeks gestation & everything normal having been tested for both the condition its mother has (negative) and what its late uncle had (also negative).

  148. Mater

    One of my better ideas.
    It always makes more sense to harness youthful energy and enthusiasm to sort problems in your own backyard than to send them overseas to fail to sort out somebody else’s issues.

    Like digging a sea canal from Darwin to Adelaide? That’s our backyard, no?

    It probably wouldn’t have cost two hundred lives.

    Questionable, depending on the next ‘project’.

    Charity begins at home.

    Slavery begins at home, is more apt. If you have to force someone to do it, it’s not charity.

    I think we can all agree that this particular suggestion about compulsory service of 20 year olds puts to rest the idea that you are against conscription. You are/were only against using them to fight communism. I wonder why?

    Let’s review your stance again, just so it’s not missed:

    What’s to be done? How about a form of compulsory service for all twenty year olds – men and women – to be spent on designated communities enhancing the quality of life of the residents? It was OK thirty-five years ago to keep an obscure Asian nation free of the grasp of Communism. What’s wrong with dealing with a tragedy on our own soil that is happening now, rather than trying to prevent something that might occur in the future?

  149. notafan

    Wang is all for conscription.

    Just not him, personally.

  150. 1735099

    Outback experience

    1992 – 1996: Based Mt Isa. Worked across the North West including along the Flinders, (Prairie, Hughenden, Richmond, Maxwelton, Julia Creek, Cloncurry), across to Camooweal, and along the developmental road through Urandangi, Dajarra, Boulia, Bedourie and Birdsville.
    2006 – 2017: Based Roma. Worked through Thargomindah, Eulo, Yowah, Cunnamulla, Wyandra, Charleville, Mitchell, Augathella and Tambo. Also across to St George, Thallon, Texas, Goondiwindi and Inglewood, and along the Warrego through Wallumbilla, Yuleba, Dulacca and Miles.

  151. Oh come on

    How does m0nty explain the Biden camp’s reversing of his ‘campaign lid’ that would have seen the end of in-person campaigning by Biden? The very least one could say of this flip-flop is that it isn’t indicative of a campaign confident in their candidate’s impending victory. A more realistic interpretation is that it’s a sign of panic. What say you, m0nty?

  152. 1735099

    Conscription is sometimes a necessary evil.
    It should at least, be universal, and when used by the military, employed to defend the country against invasion.
    Back in 1965 – 1972 it was not universal, and introduced for political, not strategic reasons.

  153. The lid was fake news, OCO.

    How do you explain Trump pulling advertising in Florida to focus on northern states? Low energy, low cash reserves!

  154. Diogenes

    Like digging a sea canal from Darwin to Adelaide? That’s our backyard, no?

    I seem to remember a serious proposal to build an artificial hill 200ft (yds?) high down the middle of Australia late 60s or 70s ?

    IIRC the idea was to cause clouds to form and dump rain on the western side

  155. Oh come on

    Why do some of you people keep engaging Numpty in discussion? It’s not only that he could bore for Australia; it’s also just the same conversations and arguments over and over – and over – again. I see what he gets out of this but what do you get out of this? Really odd.

  156. Mother Lode

    Biden’s off to Georgia to hold a rally there today. Wow. He’s out campaigning again.

    Expect him to launch a tirade against Geor…Geor…uh…uh…Georgia Bush.

  157. Rex Anger

    Conscription is sometimes a necessary evil.
    It should at least, be universal, and when used by the military, employed to defend the country against invasion.

    Shame then, Jack Hunt, thatbthe only parties who have shown any interest in subjugsting us in recent times have been Communists.

    So you’d still oppose it anyway.

    Your Grey Literature thesis is beckoning, Jack Hunt. Time to go defame Bob Menzies and thebAustralian Ay some more, and leave us scrofulous blog dwellers in peace…

  158. Oh come on

    Oh right, that was fake news. Whatever you say, m0nty 🤣

    How do you explain Trump pulling advertising in Florida to focus on northern states?

    Um…let’s see now. Maybe he feels he’s got Florida in the bag and is redirecting the money to shore up support in blue wall states? Also, you do realise how ad buys work, right, m0nts?

  159. President Donald Trump’s campaign has slashed its advertising budget in Florida, relying on the Republican National Committee to carry the message there as it moves resources to the industrial northern states that carried him to victory in 2016.

    Since Labor Day, Trump has cut $24 million from his national ad budget, while former Vice President Joe Biden has added $197 million. Biden has outspent Trump three-to-one over that time nationally.

    The president’s campaign still has $350,275 budgeted to spend on ads in Florida through Election Day, but has canceled $5.5 million in the final two weeks of the campaign, according to data compiled from ad-tracking firm Advertising Analytics.

    I guess Trump’s visits to The Village didn’t go so well.

  160. Why don’t we have a comprehensive overview of the benefits or otherwise of masks? Alan Jones went some way to rectify this las night.

    This type of message would be front and centre if the medical argument held sway over the political argument.

  161. Mater

    Conscription is sometimes a necessary evil.

    Committed to memory.

    It should at least, be universal, and when used by the military, employed to defend the country against invasion.

    Only on our shores, or protect the populace by doing it further North?

    Back in 1965 – 1972 it was not universal, and introduced for political, not strategic reasons.

    So you support compulsory national service?
    Yes, it was for political reasons. That is; so our political system didn’t become communist.

  162. Rex Anger

    Why do some of you people keep engaging Numpty in discussion? It’s not only that he could bore for Australia; it’s also just the same conversations and arguments over and over – and over – again. I see what he gets out of this but what do you get out of this? Really odd.

    If Jack Hunt is wasting his time on us, he is not rying to do somethig stupid amdoutrageous to cost us Catallaxy.

    It is also an ongoing effort to prove that whatever retainer Sinc isnalleged to be paying this fool, he is not good value for money…

  163. Mater

    Why do some of you people keep engaging Numpty in discussion?

    We are getting places, OCO.
    He has just admitted that he is not against conscription, just against what they were used for in his time. This milestone has been a decade in the making.

  164. Pennsylvania is still the swing state, but I see AZ, FL, NC, GA and IA are also leaning Biden. Even OH and TX are within reach! Given that the next closest Democratic state has a margin of seven points, Trump is going to need to run the table on all of those aforementioned states apart from OH.

  165. Infidel Tiger

    How do you explain Trump pulling advertising in Florida to focus on northern states? Low energy, low cash reserves!

    A lie by Bloomberg.

    No ads are being pulled.

    Trump is comfortably winning Florida.

  166. notafan

    Really numbers you are boasting about flitting around the outback no doubt getting lots of lovely travel allowance.

    Did you make one iota of difference?

    Obviously not as you are calling for twenty year olds, male and female to be forced to ‘volunteer’ in remote communities. What work unskilled twenty years olds could do is too much detail for you.

  167. Cassie of Sydney

    “Why do some of you people keep engaging Numpty in discussion? It’s not only that he could bore for Australia; it’s also just the same conversations and arguments over and over – and over – again. I see what he gets out of this but what do you get out of this? Really odd.”

    He needs to be rebutted…the problem across the west is that far too many on the right have refused to combat the lies of the progressive left and instead meekly acquiesced or waved the white flag. The other day he was posting lies about the state of Israel…those lies need to be refuted.

    If you don’t like the rebuttals…fine…every computer has a scroll button.

  168. PA, WI and MI are Biden +5, +6 and +9 right now. Trump is desperate.

  169. Cassie of Sydney

    “Trump is comfortably winning Florida.”

    Yep.

  170. Rex Mango

    Here is the ABC RN story about Samantha Crompvoets (who is a change management expert, whatever that means) report into war crimes:

    https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/australian-soldiers-accused-of/12820632

  171. Arky

    He needs to be rebutted

    ..
    Sorry, going a bit deaf.
    Did you say rebutted or headbutted?

  172. Tintarella di Luna

    Why don’t we have a comprehensive overview of the benefits or otherwise of masks? Alan Jones went some way to rectify this las night.

    Indeed, very interesting, I wonder if there are people who have suffered infections because of their use/re-use/re-re-use of masks? that would be even more interesting

  173. Oh come on

    Since Labor Day, Trump has cut $24 million from his national ad budget, while former Vice President Joe Biden has added $197 million. Biden has outspent Trump three-to-one over that time nationally.

    Only a real dummy would this as a sign of strength from the bigger spender rather than weakness (or desperation).

    At the very least it indicates poor planning from the Biden campaign. Booking ads now is extremely costly relative to what bookings cost if made long in advance. September is also a very expensive time to buy. Pulling ads from one market and redirecting them to another only indicates that the campaign places a higher priority on the other market.

    If one campaign is spending up big on ads everywhere at this late stage while the other is narrowing its focus, well…I’ll just let every draw their own conclusions about what that means.

  174. Oh come on

    everyone, not every

  175. jupes

    PA, WI and MI are Biden +5, +6 and +9 right now. Trump is desperate.

    LOL

    Another week of this rubbish from M0nty,the gullible prick, then it’s back to the basement for a few months.

  176. Tintarella di Luna

    Here is the ABC RN story about Samantha Crompvoets (who is a change management expert, whatever that means) report into war crimes:

    Sir Peter Cosgrove has just written a book about the ramifications of multiple deployments to dangerous places such as Afghanistan where there is an unconventional enemy. This is what the Bargearsed Brigadiers have been doing – applying the microscope using the prism of conventional warfare and crawling up the internals of soldiers sent into the very situation Sir Peter Cosgrove talks about, multiple times aided and abetted by the treacherous ABC, the enemy of the people and its fellow travellers in the mainstream media.

  177. P

    Why don’t we have a comprehensive overview of the benefits or otherwise of masks? Alan Jones went some way to rectify this las night.

    Pity about the twice mentioned ‘naval passages’. It should have been nasal.

  178. PA, WI and MI are Biden +5, +6 and +9 right now.

    By way of comparison, in 2016 the respective poll margins for Hillary were +4, +5 and +4.

    The difference is that in 2016 the media were all in on the EMAILZ!!/[email protected]#(%!!! rubbish whereas they haven’t touched the Hunter stuff with a 40-foot barge pole. Where is the late Trump surge coming from?

  179. Mother Lode

    It is hilarious.

    Trump is attracting massive crowds everywhere he goes. Even where he doesn’t go, his supporters organise their flotillas and convoys. Meanwhile Biden rarely emerges into sunlight, bumbles out some bizarre gibberish when he does, in front of groups of about ten – two if you exclude the press.

    Trump supporters are energetic, festive, optimistic and ubiquitous. Biden supporters are…well, no one knows.

    Trump has been able to reduce his advertising presence. Joe has upped his. Another change in Joe’s strategy is that he is modifying his schedule to add new engagements – apparently the old strategy was not working, otherwise why change?

    And yet the best the MSM and trolls can come up with is to direct us to the polls which fared so badly last time.

    Laughable.

  180. Oh come on

    You have to feel a bit sorry for m0nts. He isn’t capable of learning. He’s going to follow Nate Silver right over the cliff, just like he did in 2016, Thelma and Louise style.

    I wonder if m0nty’s Thelma or Louise? Hmm. Louise, definitely. Louise was the dopey one in the passenger seat.

  181. Boambee John

    jupes

    Just another monumental waste of taxpayer’s money that will achieve nothing, other than to destroy the ADF as an effective fighting force

    Usually, when it is a choice between bureaucratic incompetence and a conspiracy, I would go for the former. On this occasion, however, it is hard to see even bureaucratic incompetence stretching for so long under so many different supervisors.

  182. H B Bear

    ALPBC news reporting latest BS poll from m The Ponds Institute on climate change launched by NSW Lieboral minister.

  183. calli

    Trump is attracting massive crowds everywhere he goes. Even where he doesn’t go, his supporters organise their flotillas and convoys. Meanwhile Biden rarely emerges into sunlight, bumbles out some bizarre gibberish when he does, in front of groups of about ten – two if you exclude the press.

    C’mon man!

    Biden supporters organise riots and burnings and lootings and beatings and a couple of murders.

    High energy!

  184. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    He needs to be rebutted…the problem across the west is that far too many on the right have refused to combat the lies of the progressive left and instead meekly acquiesced or waved the white flag. The other day he was posting lies about the state of Israel…those lies need to be refuted.

    Well said, Cassie.

  185. Boambee John

    Mater

    Only on our shores, or protect the populace by doing it further North?

    The Labor (without u) government of Saint John Curtin did extend the area of service as far north as the Equator, and Australian conscripts served in both Dutch New Guinea and the British Solomon Islands, so it seems that that is acceptable.

  186. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Why don’t we have a comprehensive overview of the benefits or otherwise of face nappies? Alan Jones went some way to rectify this las night.

    There are no benefits whatsoever, apart from allowing me to easily identify if someone is an hysterical gullible imbecile.

    Face nappie mandates are solely about humiliation. If people haven’t realised this by now, then they deserve to keep being forced to wear them.

  187. egg_

    Dangerous Dan the Highwayman is costing us at least $300Mil per day?
    How’s it feel to be buttfvcked, Scummo?

  188. Even OH and TX are within reach!

    It’s Happening!!!

  189. Mater

    The Labor (without u) government of Saint John Curtin did extend the area of service as far north as the Equator, and Australian conscripts served in both Dutch New Guinea and the British Solomon Islands, so it seems that that is acceptable.

    It only a little further to Vietnam. 🇻🇳
    Not too much to ask, to secure our freedoms (at least until Mar 2020), one would think.

  190. Boambee John

    introduced for political, not strategic reasons.

    The bin chicken is not familiar with Clausewitz, “War is the continuation of politics by other means”.

  191. Dot

    1 BTC at 19730 AUD, even after the recent AUD appreciation.

    Sitting at 13780 USD.

  192. egg_

    Facemasks are so last Season on Sydney’s Lower North Shore.

  193. Alright geniuses, tell me why Trump is rallying in Nebraska today.

  194. Dot

    Young Jamie, back in the fuckin’ saddle.

    THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST ANTICIPATED THING I’VE EVER DONE.

    Welcome, Alex Jones.

  195. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The Labor (without u) government of Saint John Curtin

    The same Saint John Curtin who claimed that the war was about the freedom of the working man to organize himself?

  196. Dot

    HER FATHER WAS A FAMOUS MI6 SCIENTIST WHO USED SEX MAGICK TO BLACKMAIL PEOPLE, HER DAD WAS DROWNED IN THE ATLANTIC OCEAN

    SASHA BARON COHEN SEXUALLY ASSAULTED RON PAUL

  197. Boambee John

    Dot

    Whom are you talking about?

  198. Is everyone on the Cat except me high on drugs?

  199. Tom

    Alright geniuses, tell me why Trump is rallying in Nebraska today.

    Um, to win over people who may not have decided to vote for him. It’s called campaigning, Monty — which your establishment candidate’s handlers have belatedly to decided to engage in because they can’t trust the MSM’s fake polls.

    Joe Biden is Crooked Hillary with a dick. Only more corrupt.

  200. Rex Mango

    Must be incredible for someone like Crompvoets, to have her very much unproven theories about diversity/sexism etc, demonstrated to be so spectacularly correct when she gets to study a male only workplace that is predominantly white and Anglo, like the Special Forces.

  201. Trump is ahead by 17 points in Nebraska.

  202. Rex Mango

    Turns out a male only mainly white workplace is not only bad, but it produces war criminals. Of course that makes so much sense to Crompvoets.

  203. Dot

    Monty

    I’m not high, but reading your comments, I may as well be.

  204. harrys on the boat

    Um, to win over people who may not have decided to vote for him. It’s called campaigning, Monty —

    It really is pitiful that this needs to be spoon fed to the sack of useless shit.

  205. cohenite

    The 2 trolls out and about; no point distinguishing between the bastards as they both represent the left and it’s malign influence. Also no point going to any trouble in rebutting what they vomit up; the best response is to just hope for their speedy demise.

  206. If Biden does not win and win comfortably, the polling industry is finished.

  207. Dot

    Imagine Biden winning Nebraska 52 – 39.

    Utterly incredulous.

  208. Dot

    Even 6+-% means almost nothing, Pew Research reckons that is the real MOE, not +-3%.

  209. Bruce of Newcastle

    M0nty – Stop believing your own propaganda.

    Trafalgar currently has Trump up by just under a point in Pennsylvania, up by three in North Carolina, up two in Michigan, down by only a point in Wisconsin, up two in Florida, and up four in Arizona.

    Nolte: USC Poll Counts Shy Voters and Donald Trump Wins (27 Oct)

    The Atlas Project is fooling the people who should know better.

  210. mh

    Courier Paywall

    MILLIONS OWED: QLD’S BIGGEST CONSTRUCTION COMPANY COLLAPSES
    Queensland’s construction industry has been battered in 2020 by COVID and widespread uncertainty, and now some of the biggest company liquidations can be exposed, as subcontractors are left short-changed by millions of dollars. SEE THE LIST

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