Open Thread: October 24, 2020

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  1. woolfe

    Trump does not forget the people that voted for him. He is not a politician.

  2. jupes

    Must be incredible for someone like Crompvoets, to have her very much unproven theories about diversity/sexism etc, demonstrated to be so spectacularly correct when she gets to study a male only workplace that is predominantly white and Anglo, like the Special Forces.

    Not just study, but she gets to make recommendations about changing the culture.

    We live in very weird and dangerous times. The people in charge of defending the country are going out of their way to emasculate the ADF and thus destroy actual fighting capability. Meanwhile, the people in charge of the economy are going out of their way to blow up power stations and send manufacturing offshore.

    Whatever happened to patriotism and the national interest?

  3. Des Deskperson

    ‘Obviously not as you are calling for twenty year olds, male and female to be forced to ‘volunteer’ in remote communities. What work unskilled twenty years olds could do is too much detail for you.’

    About 400,000 Australians turn 20 every year.

    Whatever the benefits of some sort of ‘universal’ deployment of these people to remote communities, transporting them, feeding them, clothing them, accommodation them, supporting them in other ways and presumably remunerating them is some form or other is going to cost quite a packet, isn’t it?

  4. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Pennsylvania is still the swing state, but I see AZ, FL, NC, GA and IA are also leaning Biden. Even OH and TX are within reach!

    so are the next dozen doughnuts

  5. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Whatever happened to patriotism and the national interest?

    One world socialist government, must drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator in da name of da equalidy

  6. Tom

    Trump is ahead by 17 points in Nebraska.

    If he is campaigning in Nebraska: a) he is campaigning to help a local candidate: or b) he has internal polling that shows the MSM polling is wrong.

    If Biden does not win and win comfortably, the polling industry is finished.

    Correct.

  7. Oh come on

    By way of comparison, in 2016 the respective poll margins for Hillary were +4, +5 and +4 blah blah blah

    Your entire premise is based upon an assumption that the polling data you cite is worth a pinch of shit. It isn’t.

    Let’s look at Nate Silver, the great poll data aggregator. It’s hard to overstate how much influence he has within the polling community. He can make or break reputations of individuals and smaller polling outfits with a single tweet. He’s the Anna Wintour of polling, and he’s the one pushing the ‘insurmountable Biden poll lead’ numbers. Poll herding or mirroring – when polls fiddle their numbers to not be too far removed from other polls – is real and it’s happening. And Nate Silver is the one setting the benchmark numbers which others are mirroring, despite his pretense of being the arbiter of whether poll herding is happening and how much of a factor it is in determining the numbers (surprise, surprise – not much! According to Silver, anyway).

    Just take a look at Silver’s Twitter stream. Whenever some poll data is released that deviates too far from Silver’s numbers, he’s straight away discrediting the polling firm, suggesting it’s partisan and so on. He’s the ultimate partisan – never forget that what a leftist accuses you of doing or being is pretty much always what he is or is doing – and his numbers are deliberately skewing hard Biden to suppress Trump voter enthusiasm in swing states.

  8. Cassie of Sydney

    “woolfe
    #3635416, posted on October 28, 2020 at 10:37 am
    Trump does not forget the people that voted for him. He is not a politician.”

    Yep…and this is why the left loathe him and ordinary people love him.

  9. Bruce of Newcastle

    Alright geniuses, tell me why Trump is rallying in Nebraska today.

    M0nty – Here you go.

    Nebraska, Maine could play pivotal role in presidential race (23 Oct)

    OMAHA, Neb. (AP) — Nebraska will never be mistaken for a swing state given that it hasn’t supported a Democratic presidential candidate since 1964, but if the race is close this fall, the state could have a key role in choosing the next president.

    It’s all thanks to a law approved decades ago that was intended to attract presidential candidates to a state they usually ignore because it’s so reliably conservative. While the statewide vote will clearly go to President Donald Trump, former Vice President Joe Biden has a good chance of winning in the state’s 2nd Congressional District, meaning one of Nebraska’s five Electoral College votes could go to the Democrat.

    I’d add that he had three rallies in PA yesterday, and guess what he was saying about Joe and fossil fuels? And what is a huuuge industry in Nebraska? So I think he’s also going to be doing a little fracking lovin’ at his rally there on the back of the oops moment Joe did in the debate.

  10. Dot

    Nebraska is a yuuuge coal state too.

  11. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    About 400,000 Australians turn 20 every year.

    Could always make the selection based on the day they were born?

  12. John64

    ‘FREEDOM!’

    2 positive tests today.

    Time to lock the joint down again.

  13. mh

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3635425, posted on October 28, 2020 at 10:46 am
    Alright geniuses, tell me why Trump is rallying in Nebraska today.

    M0nty – Here you go.

    Nebraska, Maine could play pivotal role in presidential race (23 Oct)

    I’m sure Monty will thank Bruce for helping him out.

  14. Oh come on

    Alright geniuses, tell me why Trump is rallying in Nebraska today.

    When you do as many rallies as he does in a day, it doesn’t really mean that much. If you only do two or three a week like Biden (and Hillary), where you go is indicative of a lot.

  15. Mother Lode

    Facemasks are so last Season on Sydney’s Lower North Shore.

    You on the Lower North Shore, egg_?

  16. Cassie of Sydney

    UK polls last December 2019 predicted a comfortable Labour Corbyn win….the polls were wrong.

    Oz polls last April and May 2019 predicted a comfortable Shorten win…..gosh Billy and Chloe had even booked a removalist and packed some bags…the polls were wrong.

    US polls in October and November 2016 predicted a comfortable Crooked Hillary win…the polls were wrong.

    UK polls in June 2016 predicted a comfortable Remain win….the polls were wrong.

    All I know is that I no longer believe any poll…whether it be here in Oz, the UK or the USA. I think polls, like journalism, are now thoroughly discredited.

  17. Rex Mango

    Letting Crompvoets, who did a psych doctorate, loose on Special Forces is a war crime in itself. Like putting Numbers in charge of conscription.

  18. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘1992 – 1996: Based Mt Isa. Worked across the North West including along the Flinders, (Prairie, Hughenden, Richmond, Maxwelton, Julia Creek, Cloncurry), across to Camooweal, and along the developmental road through Urandangi, Dajarra, Boulia, Bedourie and Birdsville.
    2006 – 2017: Based Roma. Worked through Thargomindah, Eulo, Yowah, Cunnamulla, Wyandra, Charleville, Mitchell, Augathella and Tambo. Also across to St George, Thallon, Texas, Goondiwindi and Inglewood, and along the Warrego through Wallumbilla, Yuleba, Dulacca and Miles.’

    Hahahahaaa. Bahaaa.

    Driving through places. Just superb.

  19. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #3635398, posted on October 28, 2020 at 10:27 am
    Is everyone on the Cat except me high on drugs?

    Are donuts drugs? Might explain some of your comments.

  20. Dot

    Mum and Dad and Danny
    Came to watch the marching out parade
    at the Warrambungles
    It was a long March from UNE

    and tell me doctor why
    a flagon chills me to my feet
    The Walgett RSL haunts me in my sleep
    and what’s this I hear of indigenous agronomy

    God help me.
    I was only virtue signalling.

  21. Boambee John

    Des D

    and presumably remunerating them is some form or other is going to cost quite a packet, isn’t it?

    And then in 50 years time they will be moaning about the current value of the income they missed out on.

  22. M0nty – Stop believing your own propaganda.

    And then a link to Breitbart, LOL.

  23. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Trump is great in that Wisconsin rally – his second of the day. On message, calm but energetic, hitting high notes to loud waves of enthusiasm from the crowd.

    Covid must be good for you, the way Trump’s faring after his brush with it.

    Even if he should lose and fake news and fraud wins, he will be a voice still for those Biden will bring quickly down with failed economies.

  24. dover_beach

    PA, WI and MI are Biden +5, +6 and +9 right now.

    He never learns. Never.

  25. caveman

    Chairman Dam just said computer modelling no good cause the numbers are too low. Results will be all over the place. What a game , what a rort. Let them eat doughnuts.

  26. Herodotus

    Daytime Sky news were almost cheerful discussing Biden’s chances of winning!
    They accepted the pollsters saying they have got it right this time. Why are they not horrified or at least a bit uncomfortable at the prospect?
    A friend reckons these younger staffers have been extruded like clones from the formative institutions.
    The idea reminds me of the mass production cloning of alien squid things in the movie Monsters versus Aliens.

  27. his numbers are deliberately skewing hard Biden to suppress Trump voter enthusiasm in swing states

    Unskew those polls!

    An alternative theory: the pollsters have skewed too far the other way to pick up uneducated bums and are now overestimating Trump’s support.

    Another alternative theory: the demographics of the voting public are wildly different this cycle due to the rise in early voting and the likely problems with in-person voting on election day caused by the virus, so nobody really knows what will happen and we shall have to wait and see.

  28. Herodotus

    Even Cameron Stewart reads a bit more sensibly today than Sky.

  29. Old School Conservative

    The Australian is on fire today.
    1. Janet Albrechtsen roasts ScoMo for “supine” leadership and kneeling before Dan.
    2. Exposes Dee Madigan and the ABC as prime movers in the Qld Labor scare campaign (re sacking of public servants).
    3. Informs us that Foreign Minister Payne has still done nothing about the Qatar scandal.
    4. Editorialises in favour of Justice Barrett.
    5. Promotes maths and science.

    At least there is something to cheer about at The Oz, despite them giving Troy Bramston airtime.

  30. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Boston Herald just came out for Trump.

    It’s happening and Obama getting the thumbs down in a wild meeting via Tailgunner’s Twitter link.

  31. Bruce of Newcastle

    PA, WI and MI are Biden +5, +6 and +9 right now. Trump is desperate.

    I just came across this one, via Instapundit:

    Sam @SunshineSt8Sam
    BREAKING:
    THE POLLS ARE WRONG!
    Republicans now lead in Wisconsin in number of ballots returned!
    – Republican ballots: 42%
    – Democrat ballots: 36%
    6:05 AM · Oct 27, 2020

    I thought the whole idea was that early voting would favour the Democrats, because Trump voters were intending to turn up on the day so their votes couldn’t be discarded.

  32. woolfe

    You can feel the enthusiasm

  33. Rex Mango

    Wonder what Crompvoets would find if she studied another all male workplace, like say Catholic priesthood?

  34. Mother Lode

    If you only do two or three a week like Biden (and Hillary), where you go is indicative of a lot.

    I remember in the last election reading reports that there was a lot of theatre about Hillary’s cavalcade as it trekked about. Stories of how before her bus arrived her minions would race ahead and festoon towns she passed through with Hillary campaign material, then she would sail through and all the photographs would show vigorous support, and she she receded into the distance they would pull up all the campaign paraphernalia and race ahead to prepare the next stop.

    She was content with the polls. It did not seem to register that the country seemed at odds with polls, so the country was misrepresenting her chances.

    Seems to be happening again.

  35. dover_beach

    Wow!
    The People are awake.
    “Barack Obama” feeling the fury here!

    Where is that and what event? Incredible.

  36. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    In person voting may be a problem when there aren’t enough voting places, waits are too Covid spaced, and some later arrives will miss getting a vote in. Yet late mail votes are counted. Polling stations should stay open till midnight on Nov 4th. in State of location.

  37. Bruce of Newcastle

    M0nty – Breitbart is an excellent news source, since you can almost always verify the stories with actual data. Whereas it is trivial to show most stories in the lefty press are bullcrap, and not supported by real world data.

    So I suggest you start reading Breitbart if you want to better understand what the real world is doing.

    I am actually quite good at doing research, since it has been my career. You saw an example with NE just now.

  38. Shy Ted

    1735099 #3635341, posted on October 28, 2020 at 9:23 am
    Outback experience
    1992 – 1996: Based Mt Isa. Worked across the North West including along the Flinders, (Prairie, Hughenden, Richmond, Maxwelton, Julia Creek, Cloncurry), across to Camooweal, and along the developmental road through Urandangi, Dajarra, Boulia, Bedourie and Birdsville.
    2006 – 2017: Based Roma. Worked through Thargomindah, Eulo, Yowah, Cunnamulla, Wyandra, Charleville, Mitchell, Augathella and Tambo. Also across to St George, Thallon, Texas, Goondiwindi and Inglewood, and along the Warrego through Wallumbilla, Yuleba, Dulacca and Miles.

    He’s that good they wrote a song about him.

  39. Arky

    Where is that and what event? Incredible.

    ..
    Not sure that’s a 2020 Obama.
    Not enough grey in the hair.
    Also, dems aren’t holding events like that. They’re in their cars or socially distanced.

  40. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    We live in very weird and dangerous times. The people in charge of defending the country are going out of their way to emasculate the ADF and thus destroy actual fighting capability. Meanwhile, the people in charge of the economy are going out of their way to blow up power stations and send manufacturing offshore.
    Whatever happened to patriotism and the national interest?

    Four words: “Too stupid to survive.”

  41. Tom

    Crooked Hillary called them “deplorables”. Quid Pro Joe calls them “chumps”. On behalf of Australians voting in the US presidential election, Monty calls them “uneducated bums”.

    Hahaha. With that level of ruling class hubris, you should be working for Albo or the Filth, monty.

  42. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Anyone who thinks Geriatric Joe is any chance of winning the presidency of the US is insane, an imbecile, or both (i.e. they’re mUnty).

  43. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Also Dem authorities are said to be putting insufficient and not easily accessible polling stations in heavily Republical areas. Hope someone has their statistical and logistic eye on this

  44. Obama called me “bitter & clinging”
    Hillary called me “deplorable”
    Biden calls me “chump”
    Trump calls me “American”

    Bumper sticker & t-shirt.
    (Same one as last time – updated for Biden chumpery)

  45. Anyone who thinks Geriatric Joe is any chance of winning the presidency of the US is insane, an imbecile, or both (i.e. they’re mUnty).

    Has anyone had a talk to Spurgeon Monkfish on the topic of “vote fraud”?

  46. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    M0nts probably is working for Albo and the filth, Tom. Commitment such as his must reside somewhere, as it is unusual in a small (descriptor not relating to M0nt’s girth) businessman.

    He’ll be handing out for Labor in Vic in two years, stalwart of the local Party for sure. Even if Dan may not be quite The Man by then.

  47. Mother Lode

    It’s happening and Obama getting the thumbs down in a wild meeting via Tailgunner’s Twitter link.

    A few of the comments there suggest it is an old clip. Obama’s hair appears darker than it now is (could be video quality) and no one in the audience is wearing a mask. Even at Trump rallies you will find people wearing masks.

    I still think Obama’s charm has worn off though. In his day he was preparing people for bad times, promising that he would make the best of those straitened abysmal times. Trump came along and snapped people out of his spell. He gave them good times Obama said would never happen again.

    I think Americans pretty much realise Obama was the right President for bad time. They voted him in, and sure enough they had bad times.

  48. Boambee John

    m0nty at 1106

    A final alternative theory is that all of your comments are based on wishful thinking, unalloyed with even a modicum of knowledge.

  49. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    the topic of “vote fraud”

    The Dumbocrats can take a big democracy cakewalk through the smoking urban ruins of their choice and it won’t make a lick of difference.

    It’s over. Four more years.

  50. Infidel Tiger

    Tony Bobulinski is a very credible witness.

    The Bidens are crooks.

  51. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Spurgeon, consider yourself ‘talked to’. Lol.

    My hope is that Trump will win convincingly enough to wash away the fraud and other attempts to deny his voters their rights.

  52. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    puppet on a string

    Royals: Prince Harry learned about race bias by ‘walking in Meghan Markle’s shoes’

    there’s a good little commie

  53. Everyone, just take a moment and consider how manic this place will be exactly a week from now.
    It’s gonna be EPIC!
    Go Catallaxy!

  54. dover_beach

    Get ready for the MSM to smother Tucker’s interview with Bobulinksi. As the latter says, the facts are there, the claims can be corroborated.

  55. Bruce of Newcastle

    Tony Bobulinski is a very credible witness.

    This was fun:

    ‘You’ll Bury Everyone Involved’: Bobulinski Recorded Biden Operatives Begging Him To Stay Quiet, Set To Release Tues (27 Oct)

    Former Biden insider Tony Bobulinski allegedly has a recording of Biden family operatives begging him to stay quiet, or he will “bury” the reputations of everyone involved in Hunter’s overseas dealings.

    According to The Federalist’s Sean Davis, Bobulinski will play the tape on Fox News’ “Tucker Carlson Tonight” on Tuesday, when Carlson will devote his show ‘entirely’ to an interview with the Biden whistleblower.

    I do hope so, even though on the last four years’ evidence actually nailing a lefty crook is somewhat harder than walking on the Moon.

  56. Not sure that’s a 2020 Obama.
    Not enough grey in the hair.
    Also, dems aren’t holding events like that. They’re in their cars or socially distanced

    Fair point but I swear I hear people chanting “4 more years!”??

  57. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Rex Mango at 9:49 am:

    “Here is the ABC RN story about Samantha Crompvoets (who is a change management expert, whatever that means) report into war crimes:

    https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/australian-soldiers-accused-of/12820632

    Nah, not likely. I clicked your link and saw Chris Masters’ name and backed right out – he has made a career making up fables for the national sheltered workshop, bagging the efforts of people who achieve and contribute, destroying the lives of several. He is a low mongrel dog.

    Crumpets? I googled and saw a world class empathetic head tilt on some mediocre looking middle aged sheila with an arts degree. What fool in government has such a dimwit reporting on blokes doing men’s work? Answer: someone who is determined to bring men down. I have spent enough time on the ignorant slag simply typing this.

    I recognise and agree with Cassie of Sydney at 9:47 am with her opinion about the need to rebut the vermin however I much prefer the clarity and effectiveness of the walk-up-knock-you-down method of younger times – all very tsk! tsk! I know, but by cripes they deserve it, man and woman alike.

  58. EvilElvis

    Alpha rangas.

    Damn, Calli. You were my perfect woman, you had it all. I’m distraught, sucked in by the chalice of the devil’s spawn.

    And Notafan as well?!? What gateway to hell are you running here, Sinc??

    Oh, the humanity!

  59. EvilElvis

    Alpha rangas.

    KD! Get in here, I need a hug!

  60. dover_beach

    Heavens, those texts and emails are damning. Absolutely damning.

  61. Infidel Tiger

    Mad respect for Joe Rogan hosting Alex Jones.

    The Spotify wokenfuhrer are going to go insane.

  62. Errr, apparently that Obama clip is from 2011.
    #GunnersFakeNews

  63. Infidel Tiger

    Tucker the best interviewer in the game.

    Watch and learn interruption merchants.

  64. Will be checking that out after work Tiger.

  65. Arky

    The issue of race must be confronted head on by conservatives.
    Decades of being painted as “dog whistlers” “mean” “racist” by the real racists can only be dealt with directly and honestly.
    The Republicans must take it’s share of black, Hispanic and even m*slim voters.
    And it cannot do this with pandering and the exploitative crap the left uses.
    Here in Australia a true conservative party must also address race.
    Most of these non- Anglo groups are socially conservative.
    Therefore the wet, economically pro- corporation and socially liberal tory is dead. Dead. Dead. Dead.
    Conservatives will win with economically fair and socially conservative policies.
    Economically they must appeal to people who want to contribute in return for a fair go. Hence anti- globalist and anti corporatist and anti crony capitalist policies must lead on the economic front.
    Socially the must appeal to people who want to be free to worship and have families and traditions and a national identity to be proud of.
    Conservatives must reverse the huge economic disparities and stand up for traditions.
    Conservatives must jettison the globalist free trade rhetoric and take on the corporations.
    Conservatives have to get radical about taking on the crony capitalist system.
    Conservatives must be unapologetic and evangelical about espousing traditional values.

  66. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    2019 Thawley Essay prizewining essay in the Spectator is about how the Boomer gen were the last to receive any education in chronological history. Written by child of Boomers, decrying the loss of knowledge of and pride in the history of one’s own culture. Only a page and a bit long and makes a good point about the irresponsible move to ‘themes’ in history that are decontextualised and achronological.

    Sad. History as I studied it, as at 20 year old in the early 60’s, with little prior education, was a dramatic eye-opener to many things I had never comprehended before.

  67. stackja

    Watch Live: Donald Trump Hosts a Campaign Rally in West Salem, Wisconsin

  68. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Hey, well said, Arky.

    Now I have to get up from reclining on my chair.
    Pray for me. It will not be easy nor painless.

  69. dover_beach

    Tucker the best interviewer in the game.

    Watch and learn interruption merchants.

    Word.

  70. Mark A

    Studying history, in the end, has to be chronological.

    I can see examining one specific period in detail as being a valid method but not without the preceding time and events that caused the outcomes.

    Put it simply History is chronological by nature, denying it is distorting history.

  71. Dot

    If you want to end crony capitalism, bringing back protectionism is a bad idea.

    The size of government is our problem.

    $4 mn for a “change management” report?

    Good lord. Yet it is nothing because we waste so much.

  72. Rafe Champion

    Monty we will indeed have to wait and see about the result.

    But what do you think the Democrats have got, like policies, that will do any good for the country?

    Silly question, just asking for a friend.

  73. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Arky at 11:49 am:

    “The issue of race must be confronted head on by conservatives. …”

    … by instructing the whingers to look in the mirror, see what they see and be happy or get over it. If they want to go further with their self serving racist dogma they can fly into Saudi or Iran, head for the village square and shout “I’m black. Gimmee munneee!” and fight it out with the authorities in a state that does nothing for any of their own or for strangers – go on, make a difference where it matters.

    Otherwise just get out of the way.

  74. miltonf

    $4 mn for a “change management” report?

    By someone with a PhD in sociology from the ANU. Yuck.

  75. Infidel Tiger

    Hannity is a such a soft cock. He’s so jealous of Tucker.

  76. The Dumbocrats can take a big democracy cakewalk through the smoking urban ruins of their choice and it won’t make a lick of difference.

    Totally agree Spurgeon.
    I’m inclined to believe the email purportedly from a disheartened Biden staffer who says the size of the Trump vote will be so overwhelming that the vote fraud of the D’rats won’t have a hope of matching it.

    Favourite part of that email: The matter-of-fact way the Biden campaign staffer writes about “vote fraud” as if it is a longstanding & legitimate campaign technique.

  77. Dot

    Actually we need a much lower corporate tax rate to compete with the US.

    Why would any successful tech business stay here?

    Abolishing income tax; that’s a phrase that should be normalised.

    The Commission of Audit was a good start, but it went nowhere near enough.

    In 1963, government spending to GDP was around 22% and we had Commonwealth university scholarships and a form of social welfare.

    Anything more than 20% ought to be unjustifiable.

    Cutting budgets is a good way to end a lot of regulation and the leeway to dole out cash to favourites.

  78. miltonf

    I know the demonrats cheated to get JFK across the line in 1960.

    Texas and Illinois were won by cheating. How was this done? Ballot stuffing? Intimidation by the mob?

  79. BrettW

    Labor have got big ads up on Northside of Brisbane specifying 9834 jobs to go on Northside. No idea how can be based on fact. Meanwhile CM reporting Labor planning to cut 1 billion from Health.

    Labour also got big ads up about the 14,000 civil servants Newman cut over 6 years ago !

    “Exposes Dee Madigan and the ABC as prime movers in the Qld Labor scare campaign (re sacking of public servants).”

  80. dover_beach

    Gee, Bobulinski can’t go home and has a team of former SEALs guarding his family. I was indeed worrying about his and his family’s safety.

  81. Dr Faustus

    U.S. outlook dims; economists say Democratic sweep best for revival: Reuters poll

    “Opinion polls suggest a growing likelihood of a Democrat clean sweep, which could pave the way for a massive fiscal stimulus in early 2021, focusing on income support and front-loaded energy infrastructure investment projects,” said James Knightley, chief international economist at ING.

    So economists are calling for massive public expenditure on welfare and Nude Green Eel.
    A new era of Magical Thinking.

    Emperor Xi smiles to himself. His Golden Reign is assured.

  82. Roger

    2019 Thawley Essay prizewining essay in the Spectator is about how the Boomer gen were the last to receive any education in chronological history.

    In Modern History we covered the French Revolution and the Napoleonic Age in Year 10 and in the two senior years we started with the liberal revolutions of 1848 and went through to Apollo 13. That was a thorough grounding in the subject & I’m still studying and learning 40 years later!

    I pity the lacunae in the education of hte younger generations; they – and society – have been let down badly by the Marxists.

  83. dover_beach

    How can Biden survive this? The evidence is plain. The grift is real.

  84. Cassie of Sydney

    “Arky
    #3635505, posted on October 28, 2020 at 11:49 am”

    Agree with everything you wrote.

  85. stackja

    Biden: NAFTA video.
    China not bad video.

  86. Mother Lode

    “Opinion polls suggest a growing likelihood of a Democrat clean sweep, which could pave the way for a massive fiscal stimulus in early 2021, focusing on income support and front-loaded energy infrastructure investment projects,” said James Knightley, chief international economist at ING.

    If they are citing the polls I think we can safely dismiss their economic insights as well.

  87. Infidel Tiger

    How can Biden survive this? The evidence is plain. The grift is real.

    The Swamp protects their own.

    Nothing will happen.

  88. Arky

    bringing back protectionism

    ..
    Characterising it as protectionism is wrong.
    You have to tax.
    What do you tax?
    Tax wages, payrolls and internal transactions, while reducing tariffs to zero?
    However were conservative parties sold these ideas?
    Up until Reagan the Republicans were the party of tariffs on imports and low taxes.
    Tariffs paid for government until WW2.
    Such as it with the National party in NZ.
    So were the Liberals in Australia.

  89. Infidel Tiger

    Reagan was a cuck.

    He ruined America.

  90. Roger

    Labour also got big ads up about the 14,000 civil servants Newman cut over 6 years ago !

    Most of whom have been reemployed by Palaszczuk.

  91. stackja

    Biden oil and fracking, George!

  92. Arky

    There was virtually no income taxes in the USA until WW2.
    2% rate that only captured a tiny slice of the population.

  93. Infidel Tiger

    Reagan was a pro-abortion, open borders, anti gun nut who Outsourced the American dream to the third world.

    Awful man. Awful kids. Just like Biden.

  94. Rex Anger

    @ Roger-

    In 2003-5, HSC History in NSW focussed in specifc eras. My school had WW1, Nazi Germany and he Cold War.

    I loved all these subjects, because I red voraciously on it all in my spare time. Primarily weapons, battles and such.

    As a result, I knew far more than most of my teachers

    But even then, there ws propaganda. Such as the Soviets were scared of reinvasion, so wanted lots of buffer states to protect themselves. Hmmm…

  95. Arky

    Abolishing income tax; that’s a phrase that should be normalised.

    ..
    Can be done. For sure.
    Historically only a recent imposition.

  96. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Spurgeon Monkfish III at 11:32 am:

    ” the topic of “vote fraud”

    The Dumbocrats can take a big democracy cakewalk through the smoking urban ruins of their choice and it won’t make a lick of difference.

    It’s over. Four more years.

    I have believed that for a long time squire, based on apparent mood and on the occasional, rare objective review in one of their better, more honest journals.

    The only danger is the Venezuelan election methods the Democrats and the anarchists have lined up during months of careful and determined preparation. They have been laying mines just everywhere.

    In any event it is, as the excitable Tailgunner observes at 11:34am, going to be on for young and old next week and for a couple of months to follow. At that point the Trump supporters have no further need to hold back and I do hope they don’t.

  97. EvilElvis

    Agree with everything you wrote.

    Cassie, if you have ranga children, please, for the love of God, keep it to yourself. Just for today. Please…

  98. dover_beach

    Jack Posobiec
    @Jack Posobiec
    I’ve watched 3 years of investigations on Trump and never seen anything like what Bobulinski is talking about.

    This is direct eyewitness testimony and documents from a participant torching every single alibi from the Biden team.

    Boom. Will the MSM whistle on by?

  99. Bruce of Newcastle

    Checking the EPG during the 11:30 am newses. Came across this short doco: Fast Horse.
    It’s only 13 min, but superlative. Love to have this race at Randwick.

  100. Arky

    How much enthusiasm would a conservative party that went to the polls promising to abolish income taxes and the GST garner?
    Would anyone give a shit if tariffs were raised a bit to accomplish that?
    If millions of Labour voting public servants suddenly and involuntarily made available to the labour market was required to achieve it?
    Who here would vote for such a party?

  101. dover_beach

    Jack Posobiec
    @Jack Posobiec
    BREAKING: Pennsylvania Democrat Governor Wolf calls Philadelphia riots a ‘peaceful protest.’

    12 police officers were hospitalized including one run over in a truck attack.

    Let that soak in.

  102. Cassie of Sydney

    “Boom. Will the MSM whistle on by?”

    Of course it will.

  103. notafan

    Point Calli

    Mines probably what you might call an alpha ranga too.

    Two stem degrees, works in the gas industry.

    Tells everyone else what to do.

    Though that could be eldest child syndrome.

    Also girl.

  104. Rex Anger

    Abolishing income tax; that’s a phrase that should be normalised.

    ..
    Can be done. For sure.
    Historically only a recent imposition.

    Surely with the extra dosh in pocket that the average punter would have, the Government would be able to mostly fund itself off GST alone in this scenario?

    (I am, of course, assuming that most Federal and State bureaucracies not immediately critical to its running are cut away or streamlined to the point where 90% plus of their budgets are used solely for service delivery (i.e. Soldiers, coppers, firies, ambos, forestry rangers and engineers, medicos, etc.)…

  105. notafan

    Except baby boy who runs rings around.
    🤣🤣🤣

  106. Roger

    In 2003-5, HSC History in NSW focussed in specifc eras. My school had WW1, Nazi Germany and he Cold War.

    That’s not too bad, Rex – bite size chunks as opposed to our banquet, so to speak. Our curriculum was thematic and unashamedly liberal in the old sense of the word, highlighting the reasons why the West developed the way it did in a positive manner while not ignoring subjects such as the dark side of colonialism – but definitely not black arm band stuff. We didn’t spend much time on battles; that may have been a reaction against how the earlier generation was taught history. That’s one area I’ve filled in a bit since.

  107. Some History

    The artist formerly known as Prince and digging a deeper hole.

    LISTEN HEIR
    Meghan and Harry latest – Duke and Duchess paid $400 an hour to record podcast at beachside mansion rather than at home

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/13023779/meghan-markle-prince-harry-paid-400-an-hour-record-beachside-home/

  108. Roger

    Abolishing income tax; that’s a phrase that should be normalised.

    If done the massive welfare apparatus of government could be significantly dismantled.

  109. Roger

    Historically only a recent imposition.

    The WWII emergency led the Commonwealth to arrogate income tax powers to itself in 1942.

    The war ended, the powers were never handed back to the states and the Federal government set about growing into the Leviathan it is today, with absurdities such as an Education department that runs no schools and a Health department that runs no hospitals.

  110. Arnost

    The Swamp protects their own.

    Nothing will happen.

    Unfortunately … this I think is correct.

    The MSM has gone all in for Democrats
    The FBI has gone all in for the Democrats
    The Social Media Giants have gone all in for the Democrats
    The Pollsters have Biden as a massive favourite (How many people will lose money if Trump Wins!!!)
    Even the Generals are anti Trump!

    All of these will be smashed… if not by Trump directly then by “we the people” in the event of him winning. A Biden (or Harris) Govt can/will protect all the grift and hoovering of taxpayer moneys! And why everything is against Trump winning.

  111. Rex Anger

    We didn’t spend much time on battles; that may have been a reaction against how the earlier generation was taught history. That’s one area I’ve filled in a bit since.

    That wa smore my personal interest- But this the informed.my understanding of the widerpolitica events.

    There was a lot of.cultural marxism in there, but I was too busy revelling in my knowledge to notice it. This of course meant that while I knew a lot, I was not always to the syllabus points. And meeting syllabus points nets you maximum marks in HSC exams.

    So what? I got my name in the paper with a Band 6 (90% + mark) in Modern History, and went on to expand my knowledge (and actually operate Cold War-vintage weapons and equipment) as an Army Reservist. Life was and is pretty grand.

    And I still love expanding my knowledge now…

  112. Arnost

    Reagan was a cuck.

    He ruined America.

    But saved the world…! 🙂

  113. Bruce of Newcastle

    The MSM has gone all in for Democrats
    The FBI has gone all in for the Democrats
    The Social Media Giants have gone all in for the Democrats
    The Pollsters have Biden as a massive favourite (How many people will lose money if Trump Wins!!!)
    Even the Generals are anti Trump!

    Yep, the more I see this the more I think Azimov was on the money with the Hari Seldon psychohistory concept. The social inertia towards destruction is incredibly powerful.

  114. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Last clip I saw of Obama had him spruiking a microphone in a downtown somewhere to about three people who upped and left leaving him with no audience.

    Don’t tell me now it was fake for it is dear to my heart.

  115. woolfe

    The clip with the crowd chanting 4 more years at Obambi was fake Lizzie.

    I retweeted it but have deleted my retweet.

  116. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    In 2003-5, HSC History in NSW focussed in specifc eras. My school had WW1, Nazi Germany and he Cold War.

    My history teacher had been a rifleman in the United States Marine Corps in the Pacific, during World War Two. You did not ever, but ever, fvck about in History classes.

  117. Roger

    …and actually operate Cold War-vintage weapons and equipment

    Cold War vintage? I guess that means I’m vintage! 😉

    I’m only now finding that period interesting. I suppose when you lived through a distinct era you need a bit of chonological distance before it becomes of interest as a topic of study. Perhaps that’s why an earlier generation never talked about the Depression or WWII…to paraphrase James Joyce – it was the nightmare history they were trying to wake up from.

  118. Roger

    You did not ever, but ever, fvck about in History classes.

    Our Modern History teacher was also the rugby coach. Ditto.

  119. But even then, there ws propaganda. Such as the Soviets were scared of reinvasion, so wanted lots of buffer states to protect themselves. Hmmm…

    Them’s some mighty great big gigantaur bollocks right there. Who could utter that with a straight face?

  120. Rex Anger

    Cold War vintage? I guess that means I’m vintage! 😉

    Yep- MAG-58, M2HB .50cal (Actually QCB by 2006-7),M2 Charles Gustav 84mm and M72A6 66mm DFSWs, Browning L9A1 pistols (Hi-Powers- Still in use believe it or not), M113As1 APCs, AN/PRC-77 radios (12/16 HRL still had a few in their inventory when I completed Recruit Training in 06).

    Technically, the F88 Austeyr and F89 Minimi are also late Cold War vintage…

  121. Rex Anger

    But even then, there ws propaganda. Such as the Soviets were scared of reinvasion, so wanted lots of buffer states to protect themselves. Hmmm…

    Them’s some mighty great big gigantaur bollocks right there. Who could utter that with a straight face?

    History Teachers, and the Education Department bureaucrats and fellow travellers who set the curriculum and write the textbooks.

    I’d wager it’s even worse now…

  122. Cassie of Sydney

    “Even the Generals are anti Trump!”

    What “Generals” have come out against Trump?

  123. But what do you think the Democrats have got, like policies, that will do any good for the country?

    1. Doing a much better job on the virus than Trump. Not hard because Trump has openly given up.
    2. Rescuing the economy with countercyclical stimulus.
    3. Passing the John Lewis VRA so the shameful vote suppression tactics used in this election can never be repeated.

    I would also like to see the return of antitrust, but I am not sure he is going to be hot on that.

  124. Old School Conservative

    P
    #3635558, posted on October 28, 2020 at 12:23 pm
    The maleness of Jesus Christ
    By Philippa Martyr -October 28, 2020

    Great writing by Philippa.
    AND the leading picture of Jesus shows him as a ranga!!!

  125. dover_beach

    @therealDonaldTrump
    3 Points up in Michigan, 2 Points up in Wisconsin, 3 Points up in Pennsylvania. The Great Red Wave is forming, and getting ready to VOTE!

    It’s happening!

  126. Some History

    m0nty
    #3635584, posted on October 28, 2020 at 12:51 pm
    But what do you think the Democrats have got, like policies, that will do any good for the country?

    1. Doing a much better job on the virus than Trump. Not hard because Trump has openly given up.
    2. Rescuing the economy with countercyclical stimulus.
    3. Passing the John Lewis VRA so the shameful vote suppression tactics used in this election can never be repeated.

    Brrrrm Bam TISH! TISH!

  127. Herodotus

    “I want to return this item.”
    “Do you have the receipt?”
    “No, you, like most places, have been telling me for the past year or so that I didn’t need to have one.”

  128. Diogenes

    In 2003-5, HSC History in NSW focussed in specifc eras. My school had WW1, Nazi Germany and he Cold War.

    A year 9 history teacher uses my classroom 1 period a week, and as my office is next to the classroom, I often listen in.
    Last week they were ‘doing’ Gallipoli, this week the rise of totalitarianism in the 1930s and all she featured was Germany & Italy, and after about 20 minutes started on appeasement and quickly segued into the German invasion of Poland. I asked one of the students if they did the Great Depression, answer no,btw, which laid the conditions for the rise of totalitarianism.

    After class I asked her why when she was talking about totalitarianism why she didn’t at least mention the Depression, or even USSR, Japan, Hungary, Romania, Greece, and Spain as totalitarian regimes, or that the USSR invaded the eastern half of Poland 3 weeks after the Germans, or the von Ribbentrop/Molotov pact.

    My questions were greeted with the blank look you get when being presented with unfamiliar information that you are struggling to comprehend.

  129. Bruce of Newcastle

    Poor M0nty.
    Trump, a 74 year old, recovered from covid in two days. And was doing rallies on the third.
    Don’t believe your own propaganda son.

  130. Cassie of Sydney

    “Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #3635572, posted on October 28, 2020 at 12:40 pm
    Last clip I saw of Obama had him spruiking a microphone in a downtown somewhere to about three people who upped and left leaving him with no audience.”

    Obama…the worst president in American history. He was always a hollow man, a smooth talker who was skilled at sprouting bullshit and hiding his utter loathing of America. His election in 2008 was a reaction to Bush. Obama always struck me as like the wizard in the Wizard of Oz. It was all a fabrication…an illusion…there was nothing there.

  131. Herodotus

    Clint Eastwood had Obama tagged correctly – the empty chair.

  132. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    “I want to return this item.”
    “Do you have the receipt?”
    “No, you, like most places, have been telling me for the past year or so that I didn’t need to have one.”

    Hero – find and get a screenshot of the transaction line item in your bank account/credit card statement and they should accept that in lieu of a receipt. JB Hi-Fi accepted that a couple of years ago when I had a TV panel die on me within the warranty period.

  133. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #3635584, posted on October 28, 2020 at 12:51 pm
    But what do you think the Democrats have got, like policies, that will do any good for the country?

    1. Doing a much better job on the virus than Trump. Not hard because Trump has openly given up.
    2. Rescuing the economy with countercyclical stimulus.
    3. Passing the John Lewis VRA so the shameful vote suppression tactics used in this election can never be repeated.

    Point 1. Was it Trump of Demorat governors who ordered that elderly nursing home residents with Kung Flu should not be removed to hospital, causing thousands of deaths?

    Point 2 ROFLMAO.

    Point 3 What, and ruin the Demorat modus operandi?

  134. Arnost

    “Even the Generals are anti Trump!”

    What “Generals” have come out against Trump?

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/05/politics/military-leaders-trump-floyd-protests/index.html

  135. Boambee John

    or Demorat governors …

  136. Rex Anger

    1. Doing a much better job on the virus than Trump. Not hard because Trump has openly given up.
    Lolwut, mUnted? What much better job on the virus? Have you stopped to check the Blue States and cities’ caseloads and death ratios to the Red ones, mUnted? Or how they are doig economically? Here’s a hint, donut-muncher: The Blues ones are locked down, broke and dying. With even ardent lefties emigrating en masse. Check out your side’s beloved Kkkalifornia…

    2. Rescuing the economy with countercyclical stimulus.
    Lololwut, mUnted? Green Nude Eel spending? Moar porkbarrelling and cause-supporting disguised as a rescue package, then trying to block what the President, Congress and the Senate ARE willing to do to support their constituents? Is your name actually Nancy, and do you actually live in San Franshithole?

    3. Passing the John Lewis VRA so the shameful vote suppression tactics used in this election can never be repeated.
    Lolololwut, mUnted? Rampant and blatant voter fraud throughout the USA l, plus unelectable Dem politicians crying about mUh RaYciSsiSM and mUh SuPpReShUn as excuses for why voters turned up heir noses at their bullshit an refused to even commit to them? What planet are you on?!

    I would also like to see the return of antitrust, but I am not sure he is going to be hot on that.
    Lololololwut, mUntz? You do understand it is your own side who stands to lose every poltical advantage it now has from the Evilbad Orange Man going full Teddy Roosevelt and unleashing the dogs of antitrust on Silicon Valley and the MSM, right?

  137. Cassie of Sydney

    “https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/05/politics/military-leaders-trump-floyd-protests/index.html”

    Sometimes it is entirely appropriate to judge people by what they read and reference!

  138. Bruce of Newcastle

    I had a great history teacher in year 10. He told us day one we’d have to do a major project during the year. And he built up that idea in us all so we got enthusiastic.

    Later in the year he put out the topics for us to choose from, one student per topic, but we could choose. I angled ferociously and succeeded in getting WW2, since my mum had previously given me Liddell Hart’s History of WW2…

    I typed my project, forty pages with hand-drawn maps, on my dad’s ancient typewriter. And got A+++ for the report. On the shoulder of giants.

    Inspirational history teachers are worth their weight in iridium.

  139. Snoopy

    Monty is desperately attempting to walk back his heartfelt wrongology by presenting as a teaser troll.

    Fail.

  140. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Thanks Woolfe. I had caught up on Gunner’s clip being from 2011. Hope that anti-Obama hostility is still around and rubbing off on Joe. Given the recent revelations about Joe though it sounds as though he doesn’t need any more help to do badly.

  141. mh

    STUDENT IMPALED IN GROIN IN FREAK HIGH SCHOOL ACCIDENT
    A 12-year-old Gold Coast high school student has been impaled in the groin by a javelin in a horrific accident during a PE session.

  142. egg_

    Janet Albrechtsen roasts ScoMo for “supine” leadership and kneeling before Dan.

    Amen!

    “Took a knee” for Dan?

    Are they pubes on your lip, Scummo?

  143. Diogenes

    BoN we had the same , and I chose The Crusades as I had been given Runciman’s tome on the subject
    Topped the class

  144. Cassie of Sydney

    “Herodotus
    #3635594, posted on October 28, 2020 at 1:01 pm
    Clint Eastwood had Obama tagged correctly – the empty chair.”

    Yep…completely empty.

  145. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    My history teacher at Sydney tech was fantastic. Rigorous and methodical and called a spade a spade. When we did Nazi Germany she went through what they did and how they came to power: a pack of thugs, she called them. Then we discussed Hannah Arendt on the ‘banalty’ of evil and when good people do nothing.

    We were only supposed to do fifth year (the last year) history, but she said we needed to do the 4th year curriculum to make sense of what happened later. You need the French Revolution and Napoleon and Metternich and Imperial Russia or you won’t understand to what followed, also the unification of Germany and Italy and nationalism and Imperialism in Africa and Asia. And the Meiji in Japan and China. She raced us intensively through it all, plus how America got shot of kings and searched Rome for a Republic.

    We sat enthralled, and she answered questions well, giving some alternative viewpoints.

  146. Cassie of Sydney

    From the Oz…

    “Jacqueline Gleeson, Simon Steward Australia’s next High Court justices
    NICOLA BERKOVIC
    LEGAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT

    A tax expert from Melbourne with a love of antique furniture and the daughter of a former High Court chief justice will be the nation’s next two High Court judges.

    Federal Court judge Simon Steward, from Melbourne, and Federal Court judge Jackie Gleeson, from Sydney, were announced on Wednesday as the next High Court judges.

    They will replace Geoffrey Nettle, who retires on November 30, and Virginia Bell, who retires on 28 February.

    Attorney-General Christian Porter said both had been outstanding judges and barristers and would make worthy additions to the High Court. He said the two appointments had emerged from a lengthy six-month selection process, and both had “impeccable records and skills for the High Court”.

    Justice Gleeson is the eldest of former High Court Chief Justice Murray Gleeson’s four children.

    The Morrison government had been keen to find conservative or “black-letter” lawyers because of a belief the court had strayed into activism in February in a decision seen as creating a new category of Indigenous citizenship.

    The High Court ruled Aboriginal people, even those born overseas, could not be considered non-citizens under the Constitution. Government MPs were dismayed that all three of their most recent High Court picks had formed part of the majority.

    Justice Steward has been a Federal Court judge for less than three years. He was appointed a silk just 10 years after graduating from law school, Mr Porter said.

    He is a leading tax expert and his appointment was widely expected.

    Melbourne commercial barrister David Batt QC welcomed the appointment of Justice Steward.

    “It’s a magnificent appointment, he has in my view all the qualities that are expected of a great High Court judge,” he said.

    “He is deeply learned, highly intelligent, diligent, courteous – which I think is important – impeccably fair and efficient.

    “I think it’s a great thing for the court and the justice system.”

    Mr Porter said Justice Gleeson’s appointment was the first time the offspring of a judge of the top court of a commonwealth country had been appointed to follow in their parent’s footsteps.

    At Justice Gleeson’s swearing-in ceremony as a judge in 2014 she said that her wellbeing and development was her mother’s job and she could “justly take credit for any success of mine”.

    Her appointment to the Federal Court in 2014 was the Abbott government’s first judicial appointment.

    She was the dux of her high school at Monte Sant’ Angelo Mercy College in Sydney’s north in 1983 and was an avid debater.

    Institute of Public Affairs executive director John Roskam said they were good appointments who would “curb the High Court’s adventurism”.

    “After the radical Love and Thoms decision from the High Court, these appointments should redress the balance on the bench,” he said.

    “These appointments are only slightly less significant than Donald Trump’s appointments to the US Supreme Court. They will set the direction of the High Court for years to come.””

  147. Maj

    Institute of Public Affairs executive director John Roskam said they were good appointments who would “curb the High Court’s adventurism”.

    Hopefully they will be our ACB’s !!

  148. Maj

    What “Generals” have come out against Trump?

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/05/politics/military-leaders-trump-floyd-protests/index.html

    They are EX generals.

    The men in uniform love the President.

  149. rickw

    STUDENT IMPALED IN GROIN IN FREAK HIGH SCHOOL ACCIDENT
    A 12-year-old Gold Coast high school student has been impaled in the groin by a javelin in a horrific accident during a PE session.

    Nearly happened to me. A buddy and I were down range with the line marking machine doing legit work when one of the girl javelin throwers with incredibly poor eyesight turned up to practice….

  150. Tom

    Here’s hoping this fred doesn’t turn into a pumpkin (according to Cat software rules) at midnight tonight and leave me nowhere to post cartoons at 0400 tomorrow.

    Thanks in anticipation, your Doomlordship.

  151. Mater

    “Even the Generals are anti Trump!”

    It’s always interesting to look back.
    An extract from the Rolling Stones article that got General Stanley McCrystal fired by Obama. Biden features.

    Although McChrystal has been in charge of the war for only a year, in that short time he has managed to piss off almost everyone with a stake in the conflict. Last fall, during the question-and-answer session following a speech he gave in London, McChrystal dismissed the counterterrorism strategy being advocated by Vice President Joe Biden as “shortsighted,” saying it would lead to a state of “Chaos-istan.” The remarks earned him a smackdown from the president himself, who summoned the general to a terse private meeting aboard Air Force One. The message to McChrystal seemed clear: Shut the fuck up, and keep a lower profile.

    Now, flipping through printout cards of his speech in Paris, McChrystal wonders aloud what Biden question he might get today, and how he should respond. “I never know what’s going to pop out until I’m up there, that’s the problem,” he says. Then, unable to help themselves, he and his staff imagine the general dismissing the vice president with a good one-liner.
    “Are you asking about Vice President Biden?” McChrystal says with a laugh. “Who’s that?”
    “Biden?” suggests a top adviser. “Did you say: Bite Me?”


    Even though he had voted for Obama, McChrystal and his new commander in chief failed from the outset to connect. The general first encountered Obama a week after he took office, when the president met with a dozen senior military officials in a room at the Pentagon known as the Tank. According to sources familiar with the meeting, McChrystal thought Obama looked “uncomfortable and intimidated” by the roomful of military brass. Their first one-on-one meeting took place in the Oval Office four months later, after McChrystal got the Afghanistan job, and it didn’t go much better. “It was a 10-minute photo op,” says an adviser to McChrystal. “Obama clearly didn’t know anything about him, who he was. Here’s the guy who’s going to run his fucking war, but he didn’t seem very engaged. The Boss was pretty disappointed.”

  152. Bruce of Newcastle

    A 12-year-old Gold Coast high school student has been impaled in the groin by a javelin in a horrific accident during a PE session.

    A classmember in HS asked one of those questions that kids pose to themselves from time to time. “What if I were to throw a javelin over those electricity wires?” Blacked out the whole coast from Newcastle to Tweed Heads.

  153. Arnost

    The men in uniform love the President.

    Not disputing that.

    But the Generals have jobs lined up with the Military Contractors and Lobbyists. If the wars dry up [Trump has peace breaking out all over the world!] then they have no jobs and can’t grift/hoover up the usual cut from the $Billions of taxpayer military budget.

  154. Shy Ted

    “Is that a javelin in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?”

  155. Roger

    But the Generals have jobs lined up with the Military Contractors and Lobbyists. If the wars dry up [Trump has peace breaking out all over the world!] then they have no jobs and can’t grift/hoover up the usual cut from the $Billions of taxpayer military budget.

    Couldn’t they spend their retirements writing gripping memoirs about their combat experiences?

  156. Infidel Tiger King

    Mark McGowan has now cost WA an AFL Grand Final and any international cricket.

    But it’s okay, because we are at war.

  157. Maj

    The Kavanaugh Court

    If Justice Barrett votes as her mentor Justice Scalia did, she will be part of an ascendant conservative majority on the Supreme Court. What kinds of decisions can we expect from this majority? Short answer: Ask Brett Kavanaugh.

    Contrary to how journalists frame each seat change on the Court, comparing the new justice to the departed one is not the best way to assess the impact. Instead, we should determine who becomes the median (or swing) justice, meaning the justice who provides the crucial fifth vote when a case splits the Court ideologically. Two years ago, Kavanaugh’s appointment shifted the median from the retiring Justice Kennedy to Chief Justice Roberts. As I noted at the time, exactly where Kavanaugh fit in among his conservative peers didn’t matter much. As long as he stayed somewhere to the right of Roberts, then Roberts would dictate the outcomes.

    I also noted, however, that if Justice Ginsburg were to be replaced by a conservative — I called this mystery nominee “Amy B.” — then Kavanaugh’s exact ideological position would become very important. If he turned out to be a near-clone of Roberts, then the median would not change, and “Amy B.” would have surprisingly little impact on the Court’s decisions. By contrast, if Kavanaugh established himself as a solid conservative vote, then a Ginsburg exit could shift the Court’s median well to the right.

    During his two years on the bench, Kavanaugh has been a cautious conservative. He is sometimes unwilling to issue decisions that are as far-reaching as fellow conservatives Gorsuch, Alito, and Thomas would prefer. At the same time, Kavanaugh has separated himself from Roberts by sticking with conservatives on big cases in which the chief “defects” to the liberals. This subjective assessment finds quantitative support in Martin-Quinn scores. Based on those scores, the Court’s conservatives can be ordered from least conservative to most: Roberts, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, Alito, Thomas.

    Barrett’s appointment probably means that Kavanaugh is the new median justice. He will move the Court rightward, but how much so remains to be seen. I suspect Roberts will try to recruit him into an informal two-justice coalition — a double-median, so to speak. But if Kavanaugh resists his entreaties, Roberts may actually be pulled rightward in his desire to influence the text of majority opinions. Either way, the Kavanaugh–Roberts interplay will be fascinating to watch.

    Politically, several commentators have argued that Justice Barrett is here because Democrats went overboard during the Kavanaugh hearings. The story goes like this: The GOP added Senate seats in 2018 by defeating red-state Democrats whose constituents were upset with the mistreatment of Kavanaugh. Those extra seats were then crucial in securing support for replacing Ginsburg. If this story is true, then there is a second layer of irony. Because Barrett has probably turned Kavanaugh into the median justice, the personal destruction he suffered during his confirmation battle has ultimately imbued Brett Kavanaugh with far more power than he would have had. He is Obi-Wan to the Democrats’ Darth Vader.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-kavanaugh-court/

    Hope Kavanaugh doesn’t turn into a disappointment.

  158. Oh come on

    An alternative theory…Another alternative theory

    Absolutely, I’m certainly not denying there are alternative explanations. We won’t know who is correct until the votes are counted – until then we’re all spitballing.

  159. Shy Ted

    Roger #3635538, posted on October 28, 2020 at 12:10 pm
    Labour also got big ads up about the 14,000 civil servants Newman cut over 6 years ago !
    Most of whom have been reemployed by Palaszczuk.

    Sorry Roger, not true. The new ones are lazier with worse attitudes and feel more entitled.

  160. Top Ender

    PM MONSTERS A PATSY BUT INDULGES A VILLAIN

    JANET ALBRECHTSEN

    Morrison’s patience with Dan Andrews makes no sense

    When will the Liberal Party stop treating Victoria like a protected “progressive” species?

    As monstrous as the Victorian Premier’s leadership has been, that is no excuse to ignore the Prime Minister’s crass political games. Not against Daniel Andrews, sadly. But against the boss of Australia Post. On reflection, Scott Morrison’s race to front the barricades, expressing faux outrage over four Cartier watches, is not as politically cunning as he imagined. It provided an awkward contrast to his timid treatment of Andrews. And worse, the political attack on Christine Holgate is bad for the country.

    Last Thursday, within an hour of Senate estimates hearing that the Australia Post boss, on behalf of the board, handed out four watches to senior executives as rewards for a $66m deal with big banks over banking arrangements, Morrison bellowed in parliament that he was “shocked and appalled”. He demanded Holgate stand aside “and if she doesn’t wish to do that, she can go”.

    If the Prime Minister wants to discard Labor’s cartoon sketch of him as Scotty from Marketing, he might start by showing more consistency when he employs outrage for political effect. Victorians, and others, might wonder why he didn’t muster up the same killer political instinct towards the Victorian Premier, whose lockdown cost the country $100m a day in lost GDP, 1200 jobs lost every single day, and $200m a day in support from taxpayers across the country.

    Instead, for many weeks now, Josh Frydenberg and Greg Hunt have led a concerted pushback against Andrews. In Question Time yesterday, the Treasurer delivered the speech of his political life. He displayed passion, authenticity and truth when holding Andrews to account for his incompetence over hotel quarantine and for the tragic impact of a disproportionate and lengthy lockdown that has damaged Australians’ lives, disrupted education, inflicted loneliness, rising rates of mental anxiety, self-harm and depression.

    Contrast the PM’s mostly supine approach to Andrews over many months. To be sure, few expected Morrison would criticise hefty restrictions on fundamental human rights in Victoria. He has admitted publicly that these matters are of little interest to him. Still, it has been bewildering that Morrison has not been at the frontline to hold Andrews to account for incompetence that has killed more than 700 Australians and a lockdown that has caused so much further damage.

    Is Morrison afraid of Victoria’s Labor Premier, who has a reputation as a brute political animal? Perhaps the PM is wary of Victorians, worried that he may not get the kind of embrace down south that he gets on the hustings in Queensland, dressed in his “pov dog” hat, mingling with locals.

    If that’s the case, Morrison should get to know Victorians better. They need a federal leader who will hold Andrews to account for damage done. Indeed, it’s high time the Liberal Party, state and federal, stopped treating Victoria like a protected “progressive” species that leans naturally left, to be handled with kid gloves.

    What else explains Morrison’s weakness in the face a leadership failure in Victoria unparalleled in modern times? It cannot be about uniting the national cabinet anymore. The West Australian Premier has all but carved out his state from the rest of the country. And the Prime Minister has been publicly flaying Queensland Labor Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk.

    Rather than picking off lowhanging fruit in his daily political skirmishes, the Prime Minister needs to focus on consequential leadership.

    Australians might reasonably expect Morrison to test an issue of major national significance for its constitutional implications. Shutting state borders will become an unfortunate precedent for the future. And, as day follows night, the threshold for doing so again will get lower and lower. It won’t be a once-in-a-generation pandemic that leads to borders closing next time. In other words, a functioning federation is at stake.

    There is another unfortunate consequence of Morrison’s laboured indignation over Holgate. When the Prime Minister of the day confects crass anger for his own political purposes, soon enough clever, experienced people will stop considering a role like running Australia Post.

    Instead, these jobs will be filled by far less experienced people. It might become a new career path for former politicians who have never run a business in their lives.

    Either that, or more experienced candidates will in future demand the equivalent of a “sacrificial lamb” clause in their employment contracts so that final payouts reflect the fact that they can be effectively terminated at will by politicians playing political games over minor infractions.

    Sure, Holgate should not have handed out Cartier watches. But it was not even close to a hanging offence. If the Australia Post boss had paid cash bonuses to a handful of senior executives, few would have raised an eyebrow. Maybe she should have offered them season passes to Cronulla Sharks games.

    It’s bad enough that politics is filled with too many political hacks with little experience of the real world. That paucity of experience is on show in many government responses to COVID-19. Most sensible, smart people with better options steer clear of politics. Feral factional fights, kowtowing to lightweights and enduring endless calls from political opponents to resign over minor infractions is not enticing.

    A similar rot is spreading to the corporate world. Notice the pattern: the smallest of infractions is whipped into a media frenzy, leading smart people to pack their bags. Behind the scenes there is almost always a disgruntled leaker with an ulterior motive trying to edge out a competitor or sulking over their own lacklustre career. Inevitably, over time, corporate Australia will be run by less competent people.

    Morrison’s over-reaction last week has made sure this toxic witch-hunt for scalps will infect government bodies too.

    Cheap politics like this will dumb down the country’s biggest government organisations, because if you pay peanuts, and chase the good ones out for no good reason, we will be left with an even larger quotient of incompetents running important institutions.

    Liberal MP Andrew Laming says that the Australia Post boss should not be paid more than a High Court judge. It is dreadful logic. Judges enjoy privileges that the rest of us do not. Judges can’t be removed from office — except for serious misconduct. They get an incredible pension: after 10 years of service, they get 60 per cent of their judicial salary each and every year for life, guaranteed, and CPI-indexed. The chief justice earns $592,220, so that’s a very handsome and very safe pension. And when a judge dies, the pension passes to their partner.

    Consider the capital sum that an ordinary mortal would need to secure that level of annual pension. And unlike a judge’s pension, our superannuation is subject to the vagaries of the share market.

    So, bleating about Holgate being paid more than a judge is political nonsense from people who should know better. But that’s the problem. Most MPs don’t know better.

    The needless political lynching of Holgate last Thursday, without further evidence, came with a high price of excitably poor leadership from the Prime Minister. The next time Morrison wants to strengthen his common man credentials, perhaps go to the footy, and preferably in Victoria.

    Oz print edition

  161. Oh come on

    Even the Generals are anti Trump!

    Why would you expect them not to be? The generals are as likely to be swampy and deep-statey as any other senior bureaucrat. The colonels – now they’re an interesting bunch. Lots of crackpots, but also lots of very smart people, as well.

  162. Shame then, Jack Hunt, thatbthe (sic) only parties who have shown any interest in subjugsting (sic) us in recent times have been Communists.

    The only Communist to be elected into parliament in this country was Fred Paterson, when he won the State seat of Bowen in 1944. History does not show any efforts he made to “subjugate” anyone. He was in fact a very popular local member.
    He was brained from behind by a copper in Brisbane in 1948, when trying to help a demonstrator who was being assaulted by another copper. He was admitted to hospital unconscious, but in time recovered to be given a heroes welcome in Townsville when he returned to NQ. He remained in parliament until his electorate was redistributed out of existence.
    Please explain how democratically elected Fred was a threat to anyone at the time except for the political establishment.

  163. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Inevitably, over time, corporate Australia will be run by less competent people.

    How is that even possible?

  164. old bloke

    Mark McGowan has now cost WA an AFL Grand Final and any international cricket.

    But it’s okay, because we are at war.

    There was some talk about moving the English football competition to West Australia in the early days of Chinese Flu, McGowan knocked that on the head too.

  165. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    PM Monsters a Patsy

    Nice AbFab reference there, Janet, sweetie.

  166. dopey

    High Court appointments. Ferguson and Maxwell have missed out. “Eminent jurists” according to Milligan.

  167. Leigh Lowe

    Spurgeon Monkfish III

    #3635664, posted on October 28, 2020 at 2:06 pm

    Inevitably, over time, corporate Australia will be run by less competent people.

    How is that even possible?

    Not sure competence is the right word.
    I think they are more than competent at running companies for the benefit of various “stakeholders”, among which the humble shareholder doesn’t finish on the podium.
    Twenty years ago I was fond of reminding people that the sole aim of an employee of a large company was to maximise long term earnings for shareholders and protect their investment.
    I suspect if I said that now I would be off to re-education gulag tooty-sweet.

  168. Rex Anger

    The only Communist to be elected into parliament in this country was Fred Paterson, when he won the State seat of Bowen in 1944. History does not show any efforts he made to “subjugate” anyone. He was in fact a very popular local member.
    He was brained from behind by a copper in Brisbane in 1948, when trying to help a demonstrator who was being assaulted by another copper. He was admitted to hospital unconscious, but in time recovered to be given a heroes welcome in Townsville when he returned to NQ. He remained in parliament until his electorate was redistributed out of existence.
    Please explain how democratically elected Fred was a threat to anyone at the time except for the political establishment.

    A strawman and a distraction squirrel, Jack Hunt. You are having a good day.

    In return, how do you explain Eddie Ward, HV Evatt, Sharkey and the fools and fellow travellers who incited aided and abetted the Coal Miners’ Strikes in NSW in 1948, forcing Bem Chifley to send the Army in to keep NSW and the East Coast’s lights on?

    They were all Communists, Jacl Hunt. And they all had vested interests in provoking a Revolution.

    Explain how they weren’t a threat to everyone, incudng he political establishment…

    (See? I can play the game too, Jack Hunt. Only my examples are not straw men, and I am not a coward who uses them to try and win an argument I lost when I made my opening statement).

  169. Leigh Lowe

    dopey

    #3635669, posted on October 28, 2020 at 2:10 pm

    High Court appointments. Ferguson and Maxwell have missed out. “Eminent jurists” according to Milligan.

    I assume you jest.
    It would have been an epic trolling effort to plonk Weinberg onto the bench, though.

  170. Mark from Melbourne

    My history teacher was Rob De Castella’s running coach.

    Great bloke, but a lousy teacher and not very bright.

    On the upside, I got to set two of six questions on the Form Four history exam.

  171. Cassie of Sydney

    “High Court appointments. Ferguson and Maxwell have missed out. “Eminent jurists” according to Milligan.”

    Miss 7-0 Nilligan does like her hyperbole. Who can forget her “chocolate box eyes” description. I believe that there is more truth to be found in one of Barbara Cartland’s books than anything 7-0 Nilligan has ever written.

  172. Kev

    The only Communist to be elected into parliament in this country was Fred Paterson,
    Other than Jim Cairns amongst others.

  173. dover_beach

    NYC right now. Dems have unleashed chaos a week out from the election.

  174. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    In return, how do you explain Eddie Ward, HV Evatt, Sharkey and the fools and fellow travellers who incited aided and abetted the Coal Miners’ Strikes in NSW in 1948, forcing Bem Chifley to send the Army in to keep NSW and the East Coast’s lights on?

    Lance Sharkey, Secretary General of the Communist Party of Australia? That Sharkey?

  175. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Other than Jim Cairns amongst others.

    Artie Gietzelt.

  176. Mother Lode

    Scenes from Philly.

    The second reply reads ‘Under a Republican President.’

    Not sure if it is a joke.

  177. Dr Faustus

    Roger #3635538, posted on October 28, 2020 at 12:10 pm
    Labour also got big ads up about the 14,000 civil servants Newman cut over 6 years ago !

    Labor is currently driving billboards around the Brisbane CBD telling us that ‘The LNP Will Cut 30,000 Queensland Jobs’.

    Escalation to Cloive levels of truthfulness.

  178. Cassie of Sydney

    Fred Paterson might have been openly communist…but there have been others in the ALP who hid or lied about their membership of the CPA….­Arthur Gietzelt among them. Arthur was a Hawke government minister. Many on the NSW right, including Richo, Keating and Loosley knew Arthur was a paid up member of the CPA.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/arthur-gietzelt-a-communist-alp-man-stephen-loosley-claims/news-story/e67f36735d880de093d18cbf25502072

    As Loosley says…

    “Stephen Loosley — a former Labor senator, as well as former national president and NSW secretar­y of the party — has disclosed that Hawke government minister ­Arthur Gietzelt was a senior member of the Communist Party of Australia.

    Mr Loosley says there is “no doubt” about Gietzelt’s clandestine involvement with communists during the 1970s and 80s.

    He added that this widely held view about Gietzelt inside the party had been verified by ASIO. “Gietzelt was what was known as a double ticket holder,” Mr Loosley writes in a memoir published this month.

    “Put simply, he was a senior member of the Communist Party of Australia and also had a ticket in the ALP, all while occupying senior public office.

    “When you were admitted to the inner councils of the Labor machine, you were quietly advised of communist influence in the senior reaches of the Left (faction). There was no doubt about this. The Australian Security Intelligence Organisation guaranteed the accuracy of the assessment.

    “Beyond that, there were the views that Gietzelt had espoused, such as his urging in the 1970s of a coalition of Labor and the communists. This suggestion was based on the Soviet doctrine of Euro-communism.”

  179. Rex Anger

    Lance Sharkey, Secretary General of the Communist Party of Australia? That Sharkey?

    Why yes, that Sharkey.

    Whom I learned about, including his coalfields gambit and failure in a doc about Ben Chifley, made and aired by Their ALPBC,no less…

    Poor Jack Hunt. It must be hard, trying to match wits with people who know more (and more wilfully and deliberately obscured) history than you…

  180. Cassie of Sydney

    “Spurgeon Monkfish III
    #3635691, posted on October 28, 2020 at 2:45 pm
    Other than Jim Cairns amongst others.

    Artie Gietzelt.”

    Thanks Spurge…you beat me to it!

  181. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    ‘The LNP Will Cut 30,000 Queensland Jobs’

    Cue footage of angry Queensland soon to be ex-bureaucrats

  182. They were all Communists, Jacl Hunt. And they all had vested interests in provoking a Revolution.

    I doubt you would know what a “Communist” is. And how were they going to “provoke a revolution”?
    You’ve been reading too many Commando comics.

    It’s simply a triggering word – a label.

    (See? I can play the game too, Jack Hunt. Only my examples are not straw men, and I am not a coward who uses them to try and win an argument I lost when I made my opening statement).

    You should get a job in retail. You use more labels than Sainsbury’s.

  183. Dr Faustus

    There was some talk about moving the English football competition to West Australia in the early days of Chinese Flu, McGowan knocked that on the head too.

    Smart move.
    Even WA would struggle with the sudden arrival of 2,000 entitled, sub100-IQ millionaires – plus a screech of WAG’s – all expecting to live in Peppermint Grove.

  184. Cassie of Sydney

    “I doubt you would know what a “Communist” is. “

    Well racist…we know you know what a communist is. As you have proudly boasted here, your father-in-law was one and he remained one until the 1960’s….well after Khrushchev’s denunciations and well after news came out about the Holodomor and the gulags.

  185. Mother Lode

    Labor is currently driving billboards around the Brisbane CBD telling us that ‘The LNP Will Cut 30,000 Queensland Jobs’.

    The libs should drive around with signs saying “The LNP Will Cut 30,000 Public Service Jobs.”

    And under that “Estimated Savings to Queensland Taxpayers: $2.4 billion per year”

    (Assuming an average wage of $80k/yr)

  186. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    They were all Communists, Jacl Hunt. And they all had vested interests in provoking a Revolution.

    https://www.auscp.org.au/historical-members

  187. EvilElvis

    Inevitably, over time, corporate Australia will be run by less competent people.

    What do you mean ‘over time’? Is it not the case already?

  188. dover_beach

    Visegrad 24 Flag of Czech RepublicFlag of HungaryFlag of PolandFlag of Slovakia
    @visegrad24
    · 16h
    Catholic men chanting “Mary, You Are Our Queen”, a Marian hymn, in front of St Alexander’s Church in Warsaw.

    The Church has been surrounded by far left protesters for much of the evening.

    Wonderful.

  189. Dr Faustus

    The libs should drive around with signs saying “The LNP Will Cut 30,000 Public Service Jobs.”

    They should.
    But the LNP’s cunning plan is to not release details of it’s economic strategy – thus handing away free kicks, looking shifty – with zero benefits.

  190. zyconoclast

    Trump does not forget the people that voted for him. He is not a politician.

    Build that wall?
    Lock her up?
    Birth right citizenship?

  191. dover_beach

    Amazing how mad Polish liberals have become because the highest court there has given the murder of the child in utero with a possible congenital defect a hard pass. We see you, orcs.

  192. egg_

    You on the Lower North Shore

    Ja.
    Ditto OO & Stacks?

  193. zyconoclast

    ‘I did not want people to think I was racist’: Security guard aged EIGHTEEN and earning £4.24-an-hour did not confront Manchester Arena bomber for fear of being branded a racist before the terrorist killed 22

    Mr Lawler said he was stood 10 or 15ft away from Abedi, who had been reported to security by a member of the public who thought he looked ‘dodgy’.

    The Showsec security guard, aged 18 at the time of the terror attack, told police in a statement read to the inquiry sitting in Manchester: ‘I felt unsure about what to do.

    ‘It’s very difficult to define a terrorist. For all I knew he might well be an innocent Asian male.

    ‘I did not want people to think I am stereotyping him because of his race. I was scared of being wrong and being branded a racist if I got it wrong and would have got into trouble.

  194. Infidel Tiger King

    Inevitably, over time, corporate Australia will be run by less competent people.

    Australia hasn’t the dumbest and least competent corporate class on earth.

  195. Rex Anger

    I doubt you would know what a “Communist” is. And how were they going to “provoke a revolution”?

    Sorry baby, but you lose again. Just because I am young does not mean I am an uneducated fool.

    And the use of ‘Commando‘ comics as an insult? Pissweak. Commando will still be going strong as an institution, long after leftwits like you are long rendered back into carbon atoms.

    It’s simply a triggering word – a label.

    You should get a job in retail. You use more labels than Sainsbury’s.

    Congratulations Jack Hunt, you erudite and scholarly man, you. Resorting to “Yer Mum!” and equivalents is a sure-fire sign you have nothing.

    Cats, I declare this (and Jack Hunt’s subsequent Brave Sir Robin) to be a troll-flounce.

    That’s 4. One more for the Ace…

    (Such a shame Iampeter is long gone. I’d be going for the double, otherwise).

  196. dover_beach

    Mollie
    @MZHemingway
    1m
    An anti-Trump [Atantic story about suckers and osers] story based on anonymous sources that was refuted by many on-the-record eyewitnesses, government documents, and contemporaneous evidence was given wall to wall coverage. This, with a credible on-the-record source with reams of documentation and evidence? Opposite.

    No words.

  197. Mother Lode

    Ja.
    Ditto OO & Stacks?

    Ha!

    Mosman for me.

  198. Pedro the Loafer

    Numbers has been everywhere, man. (Apologies to Lucky Starr).

    I’ve Been Everywhere, Man.

  199. Colonel Crispin Berka

    The libs should drive around with signs saying “The LNP Will Cut 30,000 Public Service Jobs.”

    They should.
    But the LNP’s cunning plan is to not release details of it’s economic strategy – thus handing away free kicks, looking shifty – with zero benefits.

    If I were being a responsible Qld voter I would have taken more interest in what the parties are offering.
    Here is the summary so far.

    Labor: THE LNP CAN’T BE TRUSTED ON HEALLLLLLTH.
    LNP: Did.. we…say anything about health??
    Me: We don’t need health, we’ve got that already, we need recovery.

    Labor: We’ve got a Covid19 recovery plan in this brochure!
    Brochure: (Random minor street park and infrastructure tweaks which were probably approved 2 years ago and have nothing to do with covid19)
    Me: LOL so lame.

    LNP: It’s time to recover our economy with secure jobs.
    Labor: Yes… that’s our policy, and we’re already issuing grants and bidding for projects.
    Me: If there’s a plus to the LNP, and there should be, I’m just not seeing it.

    Palacechook: Vote for meeeeeee.
    FrecklyMcFreckleface: Vtfrmehhh.
    Me: I still think saying “Palacechook” is funny and I’m not ready for that to end.

  200. dover_beach

    Today in white progressive women. Shout out to their fathers, lift your effing game.

  201. egg_

    PM Monsters a Patsy

    Over a couple of two bob watches, whilst Hunchback p1sses $1Bil up the wall per day.

  202. Dude!
    Beers in the sun on Bridge Rd!
    Thanks Dan!

  203. Eyrie

    ‘The LNP Will Cut 30,000 Queensland Jobs’.

    One can only hope. Be still my wildly beating heart.

    More like 3.5 Billion with on costs, let alone removing the hit in terms of getting in anyone productive’s way.

  204. Arnost

    ACB is now on the court and with Thomas, Gorsuch, Alito and (possibly) Kavanaugh have a “constitutional” block on the SC. [Making Roberts irrelevant]

    Trump & Team MUST have known about the Laptop from Hell for possibly months. [It was on that Chinese channel in Sept!]. Why so late to get it out there? Well, maybe this was gamed out and here is how it fell out.

    There are expected 10’s of Millions of Mail in votes out there and chance and adverse effects of fraud in states where Trump won by 10’s of Thousands is VERY high. How to combat?

    I saw somewhere that a lot of states (not all) allow people to change their mail in vote by simply going into a voting centre, declaring they changed their mind and voting again.

    Strongly Trending (Google) since immediately after the second debate is CAN I CHANGE MY VOTE? This refers changing it to me. The answer in most states is YES. Go do it. Most important Election of your life!

    Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 27, 2020

    This sets up the potential that – as a consequence of the Laptop of Hell people will change their mind and avail themselves of that option.

    So we have a scenario where in person votes massively favour Republicans and the mail in votes favour Dems. And given there are now dozens and dozens of electoral fraud examples related to mail in votes … so it will be easier to knock out these out as fraudulent [and this is where the Supreme Court comes in].

    [4D chess where Dems wanted to confuse the election and they got had!]

  205. johanna

    Miss 7-0 Nilligan does like her hyperbole. Who can forget her “chocolate box eyes” description.

    Well, you, for one.

    What on earth do ‘chocolate box eyes’ look like?

    Chocolate drop eyes. Very easily forgotten, it seems.

    Accusing others of hyperbole should be done with caution by those prone to it themselves.

    Especially when it wasn’t hyperbole. Grammar fail as well. It was a rather nauseating metaphor or simile.

  206. Arnost

    Gunner … wouldn’t it be a hoot if Trump won NY by knocking out the mail in votes!

  207. Excellent post, Arnost.
    You’re spot on.
    4D chess indeed.
    Election chaos!
    SCOTUS set.
    Patriot assets on the move in all directions.
    This is the Storm.
    This is the power of MAGA we’re witnessing.

  208. egg_

    Inevitably, over time, corporate Australia will be run by less competent people.

    Oz Multinational H.O.s are full of narcissistic virtue signalling numpties; e.g. fly to a regional SEA conference to deliver a 10 min speech on da ‘vironment, as do a host of others; likely no one was listening to anyone – our guy was a stutterer in front of crowds but otherwise the office bully.

  209. jupes

    I saw somewhere that a lot of states (not all) allow people to change their mail in vote by simply going into a voting centre, declaring they changed their mind and voting again.

    Surely this can only work if the original vote hasn’t been opened and can be retrieved. Even then it is open to fraud if ID is not checked properly.

  210. Funnier if he takes CA because of their own NPVIC rules!
    🤣🤣🤣🤣

  211. Cassie of Sydney

    “Accusing others of hyperbole should be done with caution by those prone to it themselves.”

    LOL…clearly it’s time for her afternoon bottle.

  212. Speedbox

    Oh come on
    #3635423, posted on October 28, 2020 at 10:42 am

    Another aspect utilised by Nate Silver is the ‘demoralising influence’ factor. In other words, if the polls indicate that ‘your side’ is poised to loose, you may not lodge a vote because ‘it’s pointless’. This can be magnified when the weather is against you (rain, sleet, snow etc) and in particular, voting is not compulsory.

    So, not only are polls often unreliable and can be manipulated, they are also used as a means to actually influence an outcome.

  213. Changed votes, dumped ballots, missing ballots, spoiler ballots, ineligible ballots, harvesting,fraud, Chaos.
    “It’s a real mess!”
    H/t god Emperor
    SCOTUS will rule on it if the Steal gets them close.
    Haha, too easy bois

  214. C.L.

    It’s a competitive field nowadays but this may be the most loathsome, most amoral white left-wing female of 2020:

    https://twitter.com/Not_the_Bee/status/1320492406496759814

    Revolting bitch.

  215. Arnost

    if the polls indicate that ‘your side’ is poised to loose, you may not lodge a vote because ‘it’s pointless’.

    Works both ways … and this is where I fee Hillarity got done. All the Dems were convinced it was done and dusted and couldn’t be bothered to vote. [And why Trump & team work so hard get and keep the voting base energy up!]

  216. C.L.

    It’s a competitive field nowadays but this may be the most loathsome, most amoral white left-wing female of 2020:

    https://twitter.com/Not_the_Bee/status/1320492406496759814

    Revolting bitch.

  217. Arnost

    …loathsome, most amoral white left-wing female of 2020

    Total set up / acted. Psyops designed for direct marketing to certain demographics …

  218. C.L.

    Can we have a Nigella t-shirt reveal now, please Sinclair?

  219. C.L.

    Yeah, it’s possibe, Arnost.
    Very possible.

  220. Some idiot just rolled by, talking on the phone, got triggered by my MAGA hat so much…
    “Fuck Donald Trump!!”
    Really loud& aggressive like.
    He then had to explain why he lost it to the person on the line.
    🤣🤣😎😎

  221. bespoke

    Oh come on
    #3635659, posted on October 28, 2020 at 2:01 pm
    Even the Generals are anti Trump!

    Why would you expect them not to be? The generals are as likely to be swampy and deep-statey as any other senior bureaucrat. The colonels – now they’re an interesting bunch. Lots of crackpots, but also lots of very smart people, as well.

    Obama purged a lot of top brass early on in his admiration.

  222. calli

    These young ladies are very fragile. Not at all good in an emergency.

    I wonder if it’s years of hormonal manipulation from the contraceptive pill that’s making them so emotionally incompetent? Almost as if they have permanent PMT.

    I din’t think it’s their dads’ fault. Why would they listen to a stale, pale male? More likely mum’s. They definitely haven’t raised strong, capable women.

  223. Arnost

    Can we have a Nigella t-shirt reveal now, please Sinclair?

    On this day in 1886 the Statue of Liberty was dedicated. [Sorry CL but she is rather modest compared to Nigella]

    https://www.politico.com/story/2008/10/statue-of-liberty-dedicated-oct-28-1886-014989

  224. calli

    Trump-induced Tourette‘s.

  225. dover_beach

    Washington Examiner
    @dcexaminer
    · 30m
    Tucker Carlson Tonight had the highest ratings of any cable news show in history in the month of October.

    The program averaged 5,359,000 viewers nightly.

    Good luck keeping a lid on this, legacy media.

  226. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Some idiot just rolled by, talking on the phone, got triggered by my MAGA hat

    Probably crapping on about how wonderful Disasterstan Dan Xi-Man is, before experiencing a tourettes like anti Fatty Trump outburst.

  227. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Snap Calli.

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