Open Thread: October 24, 2020

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  1. Leigh Lowe

    Something done every year until the Uniparties banned it.

    If the socialists banned me from watching my son’s pass out parade at Kapooka, while they attended (which is what Sco Mo 

    There you go.
    “Uniparty”, closely followed by “Sco Mo”.
    Care to check whether it was state or federal authorities which put the Anzac Day ban on?
    #astroturf (delivered to your door in a bread van).

  2. OldOzzie

    NSW Banned in QLD, BUT

    Rescue flight cleared to land

    Sarah Elks Queensland Political Reporter – Jack McKay State political reporter

    The Queensland Labor government has given the greenlight for the arrival of a charter flight of Australians from Laos as Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said the border with NSW could still open on November 1 despite recent cases of community transmission.

    A government spokesman on Friday night disputed Scott Morrison’s comments earlier in the day that Queensland had refused to allow the flight — believed to be carrying 40 vulnerable Australians — to land in Cairns.

    The spokesman said the Palaszczuk government had not refused entry and that it would be allowed to arrive on October 28.

    “The Queensland government has agreed to take this flight into Queensland and is working with federal counterparts to finalise ­arrangements,’’ the spokesman said. “The flight will be accepted within existing quarantine ­arrangements in southeast Queensland where those returning Australians deemed vulnerable can be best accommodated.”

    While campaigning at a factory in the Brisbane suburb of Murarrie (Labor, Bulimba), Ms Palaszczuk said Queensland’s borders to NSW could open on November 1.

    Ms Palaszczuk — who had previously outlined a plan to reopen the border to NSW if there was no community transmissions for 28 days — said Chief Health Officer Jeannette Young had not yet delivered advice on the reopening.

    “As the Deputy Premier said this morning, those decisions will be made at the end of the month, and we are looking at the community transmission,” she said.

    “But they have been able to get on top of a lot of those issues, we’re looking forward to seeing that health advice.”

    Asked whether NSW had met the 28 days of no community transmission landmark, Ms Palaszczuk said Dr Young took “into consideration a whole range of ­issues”. “Including their sewage testing, their rate of testing, she’ll provide her advice to government about those very important matters,” she said.

    Ms Palaszczuk did little campaigning as she prepared for a ­national cabinet meeting.

    Meanwhile, Liberal National Party leader Deb Frecklington campaigned on the Gold Coast, announcing that an LNP government would invest $20m to deliver the marine maintenance facility.

    The new precinct would boost the capabilities of the existing shipyard with a 1200 tonne ­capacity lift to cater for vessels of up to 75m in length.

    The LNP’s pledge would be a co-investment along with the Gold Coast City Marina and Shipyard to build the $108m facility and create 1500 jobs.

    “This is a super day on the election campaign because the LNP are going to supercharge the super yacht industry in the Southern Hemisphere,” Ms Frecklington said. “It is very important that the maritime industry is looked after.”

    During a visit to Griffith University on the Gold Coast, Ms Frecklington confirmed that she supported the federal government’s 23 per cent renewable ­energy target by 2020.

    The Palaszczuk government’s target is 50 per cent by 2030 — something Ms Frecklington said was not set in legislation.

  3. Struth

    The sneerers like to frame people who defied the socialists who were telling them that while they could go to Bunnings and the supermarket, they could not gather to honour their war dead, as people who were walking around cenotaphs with signs saying “All dead diggers agree, scrap the GST”
    It’s dishonest and pathetic.
    It was a defiance, and no government has the right to stop us honouring those that sacrificed their lives for this nation.
    I personally think the way people cow towed to that was pathetic, and gave the socialists much more confidence in going harder.

  4. Rossini

    Shy Ted
    #3630676, posted on October 24, 2020 at 8:17 am
    Fuck me dead
    So you pay your cleaner $1,000+ an hour
    Idiot

  5. rickw

    Gunner, you realise that according to Dementia Joe you’re signing up to be a member of “The Poor Boys”!

  6. OldOzzie

    President Trump Make America Great Again Rally – Pensacola, Florida – 8:00pm EDT Livestream…

    Tonight President Trump moves from central Florida to the panhandle with a campaign rally at ST Aerospace in Pensacola. President Trump is driving up the margin of victory in Florida and every region plays a key and pivotal role in the strategy. The anticipated start time is 8:00pm EDT.

    Seems a pretty good crowd if that was a last minute Rally.

  7. rickw

    Fuck me dead
    So you pay your cleaner $1,000+ an hour
    Idiot

    I guess it might depend on what “cleaning” is done.

  8. Leigh Lowe

    I personally think the way people cow towed …

    It’s always “cows” with you, isn’t it?
    But I think the “cow-tow” is a cow of an entirely different colour.
    😀😀😀😀😀

  9. Steve trickler

    If you have a spare 30 minutes. Some digital escapism with this family. Good stuff.

    E14 | The Big Lap of WA – Kimberley Coastal Stations (Barn Hill, Port Smith & Pardoo)



  10. Struth

    Sco Mo is the man at the top, who has imprisoned 26 million Australians, ignored his obligations to the constitution and thereby allowing and also funding, the rabid left wing Labor premiers in all that they do.

    All decisions the likes of Palaschook and Jeanette Young, Dan and other Public servant commos have made have been enabled by Scott Morrison.
    Would you denounce this Liberal Government , Frank?

  11. Mother Lode

    Surely Dar’shun Kendrick is a parody account.

    The clue is that everything they post will be ridiculous, even if only a gentle exaggeration of talking point from either party.

    The name looks like a play on all those quasi-French affected names that seem ubiquitous in ghetto culture, combined with the severely whitebread ‘Kendrick’.

    Think Titania McGrath, but more obvious.

    (Godfrey Elfwick seems to have gone with two Saxon names.)

  12. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It usually starts with ‘All due respect Sir,

    You and I both know that any sentence that begins “With all due respect, Sir” goes on to contain no such quality.

  13. The plus side of being out here though is that we can drink beer and they have a big screen to watch on

    Unreal!!
    Lucky bastard!

  14. Gunner, you realise that according to Dementia Joe you’re signing up to be a member of “The Poor Boys”!

    Ahahaha, that was the best line of the Debate 🤣🤣

  15. dover_beach

    The real impetus for euthanasia at the level of public policy? Cost savings:

    At the same time, the report acknowledged the “disproportionately high” health care costs to care for people in their last year of life, especially in their last month. Such patients represent 1% of the population and 10% to 20% of total health care costs.

    Access to medically assisted suicide, the report said, reduces health care costs for Canada’s provincial governments, the primary health care providers. Since the legalization of assisted suicide in June 2016, the report estimated some $66 million in U.S. dollars have been saved because individuals are helped to die rather than receive health care or palliative care.

  16. OldOzzie

    Delphi Retirees Thank Trump for Action to Restore Their Pensions: ‘Best News Since Nightmare Began’ by Obama-Biden

    Former Delphi workers, who had their pensions slashed in the Obama-Biden administration’s auto bailout, are thanking President Trump for his order that seeks a solution in restoring the lost pensions.

    In 2009, as part of the Obama-Biden administration’s taxpayer-funded bailout of General Motors (GM), the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation (PBGC) terminated the pension plans of about 20,0000 non-unionized Delphi workers. In some cases, workers had their pensions gutted by as much as 75 percent.

    A federal report in 2013 detailed that the Delphi workers would likely have their pensions cut by an estimated $440 million. Meanwhile, GM topped off unionized Delphi workers’ pensions at a cost of about $1 billion.

    This week, Trump signed a memorandum that orders federal agencies to devise a plan on how to restore the Delphi workers’ slashed pensions over the next 90 days. Den Black with the Delphi Salaried Retirees Association (DSRA), which has been fighting for their pensions since the auto bailout, praised the decision.

    “This is the best news since this nightmare began 11 years ago,” Black wrote in a statement:

  17. So the borders will be open in December?
    I may be able to roadtrip it up to the Goldy and meet my boy for Christmas??

  18. Anthony

    Sullivan, the ‘judge’ in the crucifixion of General Flynn, seems to be loading the bases to throw out the case and blame the DOJ. That will work well, if, and only if, Trump is not re-elected. If Trump is re-elected we will see an immediate retirement by Sullivan as the academic legal eagles dump Sullivan in the rubbish bin of history – at the bottom of the bin.

  19. Mother Lode

    I personally think the way people cow towed …

    It’s always “cows” with you, isn’t it?

    Not being completely certain in matters of large mammalian quadruped limb morphology, I would say that is smaller than both moose-knuckle and camel-toe.

  20. Leigh Lowe

    Keen to hear what you are doing to unseat Palace-Chook, Struth.
    That is the first opportunity to send a message to all if them via the ballot box.
    But for (cough) “an intrepid soldier ‘o fortune” (😀😀😀) you seem remarkably quiet on that one.
    Perhaps quietly cheering on Palace-Chook channelling Jokey-Oakey Petersen in “keeping the Mexicans out”?

  21. Entropy

    I would not be surprised if the push fir the wallabies to take the knee originated from the geriatric pirate.
    That the players themselves were unanimously against the idea shows it wasn’t from one of them.

  22. Struth

    Would you denounce this Liberal government, Frank?

  23. woolfe

    “When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic.” ― Benjamin Franklin

  24. OldOzzie

    dover_beach
    #3630888, posted on October 24, 2020 at 10:54 am
    The real impetus for euthanasia at the level of public policy? Cost savings:

    dover_beach

    The headline says it all!

    In grim accounting, Canadian report says assisted suicide saves health care money

  25. mh

    Betting Cats, Expect a wet surface for tonight’s GF.

  26. OldOzzie

    Donald Trump Warns of ‘Female Socialist President’ Kamala Harris

    Trump spoke at a campaign rally at The Villages in Florida, again warning that Harris was the most liberal senator in the United States Senate.

    “Look, we’re not going to be a socialist nation,” he said. “We’re not going to have a socialist president, especially any female socialist president. We’re not going to have it. We’re not going to put up with it. It’s not going to happen.”

    Trump asked the journalists at the rally if they actually wanted to cover a Biden presidency.

    “Can you imagine if you had four years of covering Sleepy Joe?” Trump asked. “It wouldn’t be four years.”

  27. Ratepayers money in action. From the Hun:

    ‘Melbourne City Council has been mocked after it went in search of an Indian “cultural precinct” but couldn’t find one.
    The council did an “audit” of Indian related businesses in the inner city to see if there was a concentration of traders to justify a precinct.
    There wasn’t, according to the council’s latest annual report.
    The council was unable to say how much the fruitless search cost, but chief executive Justin Hanney said an officer had done “desktop research” as well as spoken to the Indian Consulate-General.’

    Next they will be looking for the next Khartoum on the Yarra. Almost time to crack a stubby to numb the stupidity smacking me in the face.

  28. Dot

    Shit

    Jimmy Dore basically starting a Hippie Lady Party.

    Awww shit.

    The Dems in their current form are probably finished.

  29. Tom

    You’re going to the rally aren’t you, Zat?

    Tailgunner, Pensacola is way out in the boonies near the Alabama border — hours from downtown Florida.

  30. woolfe

    would not be surprised if the push fir the wallabies to take the knee originated from the geriatric pirate.

    Apparently DHP was asked the question by ABC at a news conference, looks like he said we will think about it to move on, and unanimous decision was no.

    They are already wearing Indigenous design jersey, but over 50% of team are Islanders, Fijians etc.

  31. He’s there, Tom!
    We’ll get live updates from the lads out back drinking beers!
    😃😃

  32. Leigh Lowe

    Struth

    #3630895, posted on October 24, 2020 at 10:57 am

    Would you denounce this Liberal government, Frank?

    Right after you give a serve to the root cause of the problem in Queensssland … Palace-Chook.

  33. OldOzzie

    Black Ball
    #3630901, posted on October 24, 2020 at 11:01 am
    Ratepayers money in action. From the Hun:

    Yes I saw that – skimming through the Hun and the Daily Flounce in NSW, there is a paucity of news – not sure why one would subscribe.

    The Australian, I can see a case for Subs, as probably the only reasonably balanced newspaper in OZ

  34. I’m backing the PussyCats tonight in the GF.
    Danger to win B.O.G

  35. feelthebern

    Jimmy Dore’s goals are the same as TYT & Cenk Uygur his former employer.
    For the Dems to have a squad faction of 20-30.
    That’s some scary shit.

    Right now I like Jimmy’s content as it’s targeted at the establishment & the Washington War Machine.
    But that will all change when a DNC candidate he likes shows up & he’ll be worse than MSNBC & CNN.

  36. Jill Biden still hasn’t replied to my thoughtful Twitter reply I sent her earlier.
    Fire up, Jilly! My bank account/laundry is fully set up to help you guys out!

  37. feelthebern

    I’m backing the PussyCats tonight in the GF.
    Danger to win B.O.G

    Is he woke enough to win?
    Will it fit the narrative of the GAYFL?

  38. Mother Lode

    Nah, Mother – she’s a GA state representative!!
    Totally legit idiot.

    Haaahahahahahahaa
    *snort*
    Hahahahahahaahaaa!

  39. Struth

    Tits on a bull , Frank, Tits on a bull.

    I have stated that all Premiers and their CMO’s and the like are criminals and need to be charged.
    I can’t say it any plainer.
    I also acknowledge the overall role played by the Liberal party and Scott Morrison in this as the unconstitutionally enablers of these criminals, and are criminals themselves.
    I denounce the lot of them.

    Will you denounce the liberal party, Frank?

  40. OldOzzie

    Polls Show Arizona Sen. Martha McSally Taking Lead from Democrat Challenger Mark Kelly

    Two polls examining the Senate race in Arizona show Sen. Martha McSally (R-AZ) taking the lead from Democrat challenger Mark Kelly (D) — a significant shift, as Kelly has led the incumbent in a barrage of polls in recent months.

    A Susquehanna Polling and Research survey released Friday showed McSally overtaking Kelly in the Grand Canyon State, garnering 50 percent to Kelly’s 47 percent. That represents a six-point bounce for McSally, who trailed Kelly by four percent (44 percent to Kelly’s 48 percent) in a September 25 poll:

    Similarly, an Arizona for the American Action Forum/Basswood Research survey released Thursday showed McSally leading Kelly by two percentage points, or 49 percent to 47 percent. The survey, taken October 3-5 among 800 likely general election voters, has a margin of error of +/- 3.5 percent, indicating a statistical tie:

  41. Old School Conservative

    Leigh Lowe
    #3630722, posted on October 24, 2020 at 9:06 am
    Australia’s national rugby team will not take a knee in support of the Black Lives Matter movement after a unanimous vote by the players, insisting they were not interested in making political statements.
    Unanimous vote.
    So where did the original idea come from?

    Unsurprisingly, the idea came from the ABC.

    The Australian team was wedged on the BLM campaign when fullback Dane Haylett-Petty was repeatedly asked by an ABC journalist whether the Wallabies would take the knee during the anthem next Saturday for the third Test in the Bledisloe Cup series against the All Blacks at ANZ Stadium. In the end, he acknowledged the Wallabies should discuss the issue and gave a personal opinion that it might not be a bad idea. (The Australian)

    Shut. It. Down.

  42. Geriatric Mayfly

    I would not be surprised if the push fir the wallabies to take the knee originated from the geriatric pirate.

    Isn’t The Pirate on assignment? Tracking Geo. Pell to see if he has returned to that $30 million dollar luxury abode in Rome?

  43. Dot

    That Alma lady has an awful, horrible, unreadable and slow loading website that belongs on a GeoCities page.

  44. Leigh Lowe

    would not be surprised if the push fir the wallabies to take the knee originated from the geriatric pirate.

    I thought that too.
    People like Poocock and Pirate Pete trying to wedge them into doing it by announcing that it was “under consideration” when it wasn’t.
    The unanimous “no” vote kind of killed that.

  45. Dot

    I have stated that all Premiers and their CMO’s and the like are criminals and need to be charged.
    I can’t say it any plainer.

    Nope.

    I think those despicable *authorised officers* are worse.

    Just some political lackey exercising judicial authority.

    This isn’t East Germany, this is Australia…or is it?

  46. feelthebern

    Arizona is a concern.
    But not a DNC lock.
    Early on, Mark Kelly was wheeling out his missus at every chance.
    But because that’s viewed as anti 2A, she’s been shoved into a Joe Biden basement to hide.
    Kelly’s missus is Gabby Giffords who the DNC have wheeled out non-stop regarding gun control ever since she got shot.
    Steve Scalise was not asked for comment.
    No Giffords, no sympathy vote.
    No sympathy vote, Kelly will find it tough to win.

  47. OldOzzie

    Americans Tuned Into Fox News More Than Any Other Cable or Broadcast Network For Final Debate

    Fox News was Americans’ number one choice to watch the final presidential debate between President Donald Trump and Democratic nominee Joe Biden on Thursday.

    Fox News netted an average of 14.7 million total viewers, of which 4.16 million were in the critical 25-54 age demographic between 9:10 p.m. and 10:45 p.m., according to Nielsen Media Research.

    ABC News came in second place with 10.8 million total viewers, then NBC News with 10.2 million viewers, CNN came in fourth with 7.2 million viewers, MSNBC with 6.7 million viewers, and finally CBS News with 5.5. million viewers.

    When it came to all Fox News Digital properties, Facebook, and YouTube, the network had 6.3 million total video streams of the debate, according to Adobe Analytics.

    On social media, Fox News was also number one in total debate-related social engagement among the news competitive set on Facebook and Instagram and had 2.7 million total debate-related interactions, which comprised over half of all debate-related social engagement among the news competitive set, according to Socialbakers.

    The final debate was much more orderly than the first debate hosted by Fox News anchor Chris Wallace, as the debate commission had the ability to mute Trump’s and Biden’s microphones. The rules also changed to where each candidate had two-minute sessions that were agreed to not be interrupted.

  48. Leigh Lowe

    And, Struth, with a week to go to the state election, what sort of convoy are you running this week?

  49. dover_beach

    I love the media’s take collective take on yesterday’s debate

    Enemies of the people.

  50. Top Ender

    Australia Post needs reform from top to bottom:

    Australia Post corporate credit cards were routinely used to pay for the hair and make-up services of executives, company insiders claim.

    Christine Holgate, who has stood aside as chief executive pending an investigation into the use of corporate credit cards, also allegedly had a personal driver to take her to and from work and occasi­onally collect her from her holiday home, at the company’s expense.

    Other expenses charged to the corporate credit card included office­ flowers, luxury overseas hotels­, lavish dinners and drinking sessions, The Weekend Australian has learned.

    Australia Post disclosed on Friday that the four Cartier watches gifted to employees in 2018 to thank them for securing a lucrative contract did not cost $12,000 in total, as originally claimed, but $19,950.

    Oz

  51. Leigh Lowe

    I hereby denounce and renounce the Liberal Party and all who sail in her.
    I resign my office as a higher-up in the local branch and will no longer cow-tow to them again.
    There.
    I said it.

  52. Leigh Lowe

    Top Ender

    #3630930, posted on October 24, 2020 at 11:18 am

    Australia Post needs reform from top to bottom:

    Highest paid head-shed of any similar sized company in Australia.
    Not bad for a decrepit former monopoly.

  53. I resign my office as a higher-up in the local branch and will no longer cow-tow to them again.

    Moo…

  54. OldOzzie

    Chuck Schumer’s Last Stand: Forces Rare Closed-Door Session to Protest Barrett Nomination

    “Whoa…Schumer just forced the Senate into a rare closed door session. No cameras. No press. Doors being locked as I type,” Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) announced Friday morning, describing it as a “last ditch effort to convince Republicans to not send the Senate into this death spiral of power politics.”

    “Long shot to succeed, but why not? Stay tuned,” he added:

    According to reports, Schumer’s effort lasted roughly 15 minutes before lawmakers proceeded with an open session:

    In a 51-46 vote, lawmakers agreed to a motion to “proceed to Executive Session for the consideration of Executive Calendar #890 Amy Coney Barrett to be an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States.” Sens. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) and Susan Collins (R-ME) reportedly voted against moving into Executive Session.

    The full Senate is expected to confirm Judge Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court on Monday, October 26 — the same day as Hillary Clinton’s birthday.

    Mitch McConnell: Amy Coney Barrett Will Be Confirmed ‘No Later than Monday’

    McConnell’s remark came as Democrats protested Barrett’s imminent confirmation by forcing the Senate into rare closed session that lasted for roughly 15 minutes.

    With a 53-47 Republican majority, and just two GOP senators opposed, Trump’s nominee is on a glide path to confirmation that will seal a conservative hold on the court for years to come.

    McConnell said Monday that Barrett demonstrated over several days of public hearings the “sheer intellectual horsepower that the American people deserve to have on the Supreme Court.”

    Without the votes to stop Barrett’s ascent, Democrats have few options left. They are searching for two more GOP senators to break ranks and halt confirmation, but that seems unlikely. Never before as a court nominee been voted on so close to a presidential election.

  55. feelthebern

    Other expenses charged to the corporate credit card included office­ flowers, luxury overseas hotels­, lavish dinners and drinking sessions, The Weekend Australian has learned.

    I have no problem with government department paying for some work drinks.
    As long as they are in the office, no more than once a month.
    Domestic beer, not boutique beer.
    Australian only red & white costing no more than 10 bucks a cask (hehe).
    Social distancing maintained.
    Masks on between sips.
    Post an appropriate work place behaviour seminar.

  56. C.L.

    I’m a bit perplexed by News Corp and Bolt running dead on the latest in the Pell cash transfer affair (aka “Gategate”) – especially VicPol’s corrupt burial of the Austrac brief.

    The Australian has now become a columnist hobby farm. Page after page after page of opinion.

    I could recommend a few organisations and entities one of their reporters could ring and ask – point blank – if they saw any of that money. Shanahan has a piece in the latest number by it’s incurious, tentative and his commenters have to inform him of yesterday’s statement by VicPol. He ends by saying it could still turn out to be just innocent reno money for the nunciature.

    I mean, FMD. Is Headley Thomas still employed there or does he now do boutique murder mystery stuff for the bogan podcast market full time?

  57. Joe Biden was very disrespectful to President Obama at last night’s debate when he said that he, Joe, “was Vice President, not President,” when trying to make excuses for their failed immigration policies. I wonder what “O” was thinking when he heard that one?

    POTUS dropping an overt reference to Obama from the Hunter emails!
    Gitmo.
    It’s Happening!!

  58. OldOzzie

    Carney: Joe Biden’s Energy Plan Would Eviscerate Wisconsin Sand Miners

    Wisconsin does not produce a drop of oil or a puff of natural gas, but Joe Biden’s plan to move the U.S. off of fossil fuels would hit the state hard.

    The Badger State is the largest producer of industrial sand in the U.S. For decades, small scale sand mines provided sand to glassmakers, cranberry farmers, and chemical manufacturing. But demand for Wisconsin sand soared in recent years thanks to hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, which involves blasting water, sand, and chemicals into rock to extract oil and natural gas.

    Biden has repeatedly said he would not ban fracking but his climate change plan calls for the government to push out fossil fuel use and mining. And during Thursday night’s debate with President Donald Trump, Biden said he would close down the oil industry to “transition” toward fuels favored by environmentalists. That would accomplish the same end as a fracking ban—and choke off demand for Wisconsin high-quality sand resources.

    How important is fracking to sand mining in Wisconsin? Extremely.

    “Recent growth in the petroleum industry has created a high demand for sand that can be used for hydraulic fracturing, a technique used to extract natural gas and crude oil from rock formations in other states. Wisconsin has high-quality sand resources and, as a result, the DNR has seen a substantial rise in permit requests to the department to mine industrial sand. Industrial sand is sometimes called ‘frac’ sand or silica sand,” the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources explains.

    Sand mining has attracted billions of dollars of investment into western Wisconsin and created thousands of good-paying jobs. According to the Wall Street Journal, the frac sand jobs had “starting wages that were $5 to $8 an hour more than the typical jobs around that didn’t require a college degree. By 2012, there were about 60 frack-sand mines in Wisconsin and 20 more on the drawing board.”

    From the Wall Street Journal:

  59. Once ACB is confirmed Monday, will the crazy PA mail vote ruling be returned to SCOTUS?

  60. Leigh Lowe

    Struth

    #3630922, posted on October 24, 2020 at 11:15 am

    Tits on a bull.

    Bye.

    Is that the third farewell this morning, Nellie Melba?

  61. Leigh Lowe

    Tailgunner

    #3630949, posted on October 24, 2020 at 11:33 am

    Once ACB is confirmed Monday, will the crazy PA mail vote ruling be returned to SCOTUS?

    I thought that ruling came from a state supreme court?

  62. OldOzzie

    Mr. Biden Will ‘Transition’ You Now

    He won’t ban fracking. He’ll merely strangle it with regulation.

    By The WSJ Editorial Board

    Joe Biden committed the gaffe of telling the truth about his climate policies Thursday night when he said he wants to “transition” the U.S. from fossil fuels. The Democratic nominee is admitting that he plans to regulate the oil and gas business out of existence, and Americans soon to be “transitioned” may want to pay attention.

    “Would you close down the oil industry?” asked President Trump during the debate.

    Mr. Biden: “By the way, I would transition from the oil industry, yes.”

    Mr. Trump: “Oh, that’s a big statement.”

    Mr. Biden: “I will transition. It is a big statement. Because I would stop.”

    Moderator Kristen Welker: “Why would you do that?”

    Mr. Biden: “Because the oil industry pollutes, significantly.”

    The Biden campaign knew their man made a political mistake because after the debate he tried to backtrack by saying he had merely meant that he’d eliminate subsidies for oil and gas. He also insisted he won’t ban shale drilling, known as fracking, though in the primaries he had said he would.

    But Mr. Biden was telling the truth during the debate, and his policy proposals clearly show he plans to strangle oil and gas. Behold the transition strategy.

    The playbook is the one Barack Obama used to put coal on the road to ruin by relentlessly raising its cost. This included the Environmental Protection Agency’s mercury rule and Clean Power Plan, which the Supreme Court blocked in 2015 and 2016. But by then it was too late, as coal’s share of power generation fell by a third and 40% of mining jobs were lost between 2009 and 2016.

    Mr. Biden’s assault starts with a ban on drilling leases and development on federal land, which accounts for 22% of oil and 12% of gas production, mostly in Gulf Coast states. The American Petroleum Institute estimates this would cost 120,000 jobs in Texas, 62,000 in New Mexico and 21,000 in Alabama.

    He also backs “robust federal standards” on methane releases from pipelines as well as storage facilities, which the Trump Administration relaxed. Large producers support stricter methane regulations because they can absorb the cost. But this would squeeze smaller players out of business.

    Next he’d use the Endangered Species Act and National Monuments Act to limit lands open to development. The Obama Fish and Wildlife Service in 2015 walled off 10.7 million acres in the western U.S. for the sage grouse, but the Trump Administration pared those back.

    The transitioning won’t stop there. Mr. Biden wants all infrastructure projects that require federal approval or receive federal funds to undergo a “climate test.” Regulators under the National Environmental Policy Act already must analyze the direct environmental impact.

    But under Mr. Biden’s climate test, federal agencies would also have to project the costs from carbon emissions attributable to every new pipeline or liquefied natural gas terminal. Does it contribute to rising sea levels in Florida, say, or drought in sub-Saharan Africa? These potential costs are so elastically definable that they would let regulators ban almost any oil and gas project if they choose.

    The former Veep would also use regulation to choke demand—for instance, by requiring expensive carbon sequestration technologies on power plants. According to Energy Information Administration estimates, these technologies raise the “overnight capital costs” of new gas-fired plants two- to three-fold.

    Sweetened subsidies for wind and solar power would also make natural gas less competitive in wholesale markets. Prices for renewables sometimes already fall below zero in some markets. Americans would nonetheless pay more for power in Mr. Biden’s “transition” to a fossil-free grid as gas-fired plants are prematurely retired and replaced with expensive battery storage.

    The irony, as Mr. Trump said at the debate, is that fracking is the main reason U.S. energy-related carbon emissions have fallen 15% since 2007. Cheaper natural gas has replaced coal, with the gas share of electric generation nearly doubling since 2007.

    All of this will mean hundreds of thousands of lost jobs. Mr. Biden after the debate said he wouldn’t get “rid of fossil fuels for a long time,” perhaps not until 2050, and promised new jobs in green energy. Mr. Obama promised millions of new green jobs too, but the main jobs boom in his two terms was from the fracking revolution due to innovation and market demand.

    Will laid-off roustabouts in Ohio get relocation subsidies to install solar panels in California? How about workers in industries that support or depend on fracking, such as Wisconsin sand mines and Pennsylvania cracker plants? Even the United Auto Workers project that increasing electric car production over the next several years would cost 35,000 jobs.

    Mr. Biden’s energy transition has nothing to do with consumer choice or technological innovation, the way society moved from the horse-and-buggy to autos or from print newspapers to the internet. He’d use government coercion. The targets can at least take comfort that they won’t be banned. They’ll have the good fortune of being transitioned.

  63. feelthebern

    Once ACB is confirmed Monday, will the crazy PA mail vote ruling be returned to SCOTUS?

    Good point.

  64. Bruce of Newcastle

    Once ACB is confirmed Monday, will the crazy PA mail vote ruling be returned to SCOTUS?

    It was the PA Supreme Court, so I don’t think it’s been to SCOTUS yet. Could be lots of fun, since I think the states each regulate voting rules, but once voting takes place SCOTUS does seem to have the last word (remember hanging chads). It would be wonderfully lefty head exploding if SCOTUS overrules the PA election result. The screams would be heard on Alpha Centauri.

  65. Cassie of Sydney

    “Right now I like Jimmy’s content as it’s targeted at the establishment & the Washington War Machine.
    But that will all change when a DNC candidate he likes shows up & he’ll be worse than MSNBC & CNN.”

    Agree Bern…but I’ll say this about Jimmy, he understands why people voted and will vote for Trump (and he has said that he has family members who are Trump fans) and he doesn’t diss on them…unlike the MSM.

  66. No Bruce, it did go to SCOTUS – lower court ruling upheld 4-4 as John Roberts voted with the 3 leftist Justices.
    Hopefully it can be re-petitioned!?

  67. feelthebern

    I’m a bit perplexed by News Corp and Bolt running dead on the latest in the Pell cash transfer affair (aka “Gategate”) – especially VicPol’s corrupt burial of the Austrac brief.

    Agree.
    If the media class think they can run dead on this, they are wrong.
    Whether it’s via committee (the AFP, AUSTRAC, ATO all have to front up twice a year or more), or from a Vatican/Italian based news organisation, it’s going to come out.

  68. dover_beach

    Rasmussen:

    Morning Reader Data Points:

    National Daily Black Likely Voter Job Approval For @POTUS – October 19-23, 2020

    Mon 10/19 – 25%
    Tue 10/20 – 24%
    Wed 10/21 – 31%
    Thu 10/22 – 37%
    Fri 10/23 – 46%

    Very interesting.

    BTW, IT is right about early voting.

  69. Cassie of Sydney

    “I mean, FMD. Is Headley Thomas still employed there or does he now do boutique murder mystery stuff for the bogan podcast market full time?”

    He’s just doing the murder mystery stuff. Pity…coz he’s a good journo

  70. Barry

    C.L.
    #3630943, posted on October 24, 2020 at 11:26 am
    …. it’s incurious …..

    Clearly the evil bishop worked out that the best way to keep Pell away for longer was to support both sides. So 1/3 to Pell (even though Pell denies it) and the other 2/3 to VICPOL and Witnesses equally.
    Supporting only the accusative side risked a quicker resolution, perhaps in Pell’s favour. It’s just a risk management approach.

    So now no-one wants to talk.

  71. feelthebern

    If the ATO, AUSTRAC, AFP think Concetta Fierravanti-Wells isn’t going to grill them at a Senate Committee, they are kidding themselves.

  72. Gab

    Andrews wRNING US TO NOT GET OUR HOPES UP BECUASE OF 7 NEWS CASES TODAY, AHEAD OF HIS PROUNCEMENT TOMORROE.

    Andrews warning us not to get our hopes up for his pronouncements tomorrow because 7 new cases today.

  73. Gab

    LOL preview is my friend.

    Andrews warning us not to get our hopes up for his pronouncements tomorrow because 7 new cases today.

  74. notafan

    Zero evidence money went to Cardinal Pell.

  75. woolfe

    The playbook is the one Barack Obama used to put coal on the road to ruin by relentlessly raising its cost.

    Sounds familiar.

  76. C.L.

    Clearly the evil bishop worked out that the best way to keep Pell away for longer was to support both sides. So 1/3 to Pell (even though Pell denies it) and the other 2/3 to VICPOL and Witnesses equally.
    Supporting only the accusative side risked a quicker resolution, perhaps in Pell’s favour. It’s just a risk management approach.

    So now no-one wants to talk.

    Hi, Alan.

  77. Barry

    notafan
    #3630973, posted on October 24, 2020 at 11:51 am
    Zero evidence money went to Cardinal Pell.

    Incurious.

  78. Cassie of Sydney

    “So 1/3 to Pell (even though Pell denies it)”

    Hmm….I doubt it. Cardinal Pell has been left destitute. I suspect one of the reasons he was anxious to get back to Rome…..apart from the fact that he probably wanted to leave this godforsaken country…..was also to get back to work. Pell has said quite forcefully that the church contributed nothing to his legal ordeals. No doubt Pell probably received donations from decent people and some of those people are quite wealthy…people such as Carla Zampatti and Allan Myers and others And if he did receive “1/3″…then why the left’s desperate and nasty attempts to expose his legal fund and the donors. No…Cardinal Pell wasn’t the recipient of these funds.

  79. dover_beach

    If money went to Pell or supporters we would now. That’s a given.

  80. Boambee John

    I wonder does m0nty approve of the Pennsylvania court decision allowing counting of postal votes even if the signature clearly does not match that on the voter registration form?

    Silly question, of course he does, it will enable Demorat vote fraud, and therefore is entirely reasonable!

  81. notafan

    Wow numbers corrected a deliberate mistake.

    How embarrassment.

  82. Cassie of Sydney

    “Incurious.”

    There’s nothing “incurious”….George Pell wasn’t the recipient of these dodgy funds. Normal decent hardworking Australians donated to his defence….some wealthy, some not so wealthy.

  83. notafan

    Exactly Dover.

    Cardinal Pell would have told us.

  84. C.L.

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  85. Arky

    Cow tow.
    Everyone who has studied chinese knows the phrase comes from ke tou, “Ke” meaning a cow, and “tou” meaning to drive a ute.

  86. Cassie of Sydney

    “dover_beach
    #3630978, posted on October 24, 2020 at 11:55 am
    If money went to Pell or supporters we would now. That’s a given.”

    Yep…because the various scum…their ABC, Louise 7-0 Nilligan and so on would be broadcasting such a fact. This scum spend months trying to expose the Cardinal’s legal fund. Apparently Pell didn’t even deserve a defence.

  87. Makka

    Andrews warning us not to get our hopes up for his pronouncements tomorrow because 7 new cases today.

    All in a couple of moozlem families in Nth Melbourne. 5 million people locked in because some shitholers can’t exercise a modicum of common sense regarding their precious kids. I see ABC running interference; family is “mortified” of what has happened. Concerns sensible people will be blaming moozlems again for fking up their lives. Fmd, sicktoria.

  88. thefrollickingmole

    child sax abusers

  89. P

    Cassie,

    I thought you might enjoy this article. I did.

    A COURAGEOUS COLLEGE PRESIDENT
    by Gary Saul Morson
    10 . 23 . 20

  90. C.L.

    There is a very real possibility the money went to an advocacy group and from there, we don’t know.
    Who paid “J’s” astronomical legal bills? All pro bono, was it?

  91. Bruce of Newcastle

    No Bruce, it did go to SCOTUS

    Gunner – different case. That was about whether PA mail-in votes could be counted if they arrive after the election date. Roberts said yes to three days, which is pretty silly too. This one is about the validity of the votes.

  92. Makka

    If money went to Pell or supporters we would now. That’s a given.

    Pell never saw a cent. His nemesis was funding the Pell attack teams and now VikPol can’t see any reason to investigate. Will AFP also roll over?

    Vikpol can spend millions and devote tens of thousands of high $ manhours miserably failing to Get Pell but within a few days dismiss high level corruption and potential malfeasance that further proves VikPol are corrupted up to their necks. Anybody having a squintilla of sympathy for VikPol is a fkg idiot.

  93. dover_beach

    Has 7-Nilligan and her associates reported on these transfers since they’ve been confirmed by AUSTRAC and referrals have been made to AFP, VicPol, and ICAB? She and they no longer have an excuse, poor as it was, to ignore the reports any longer since they are now confirmed.

  94. woolfe

    Are you telling me that if the Vatican sent money to Pell it would not have been “leaked” and screamed out by every news site in the country?

  95. Arky

    In case you missed yesterday’s case for why Arky is wrong.
    Dr. BeauGan writes:
    ..
    https://wildspectre.home.blog/2020/10/23/beaugan-writes/

  96. egg_

    My friend’s goat curry is an absolute beauty.

    Never tried goat – had venison; tried the Oz Native Animals menu (including crock) in Adelaide (sans barrels).

  97. woolfe

    Will AFP also roll over

    Where did Cornholelius come from. You have your answer

  98. This one is about the validity of the votes.

    Damn, these PA Dems are crooked as hell!
    In that case, it’s game on for the signature issue to go straight before SCOTUS I’d say!
    Winning!

  99. Some History

    A few new films already in the works –

    The Hunchback vs the Virus

    The Hunchback’s Henchmen

  100. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.

    #3630942, posted on October 24, 2020 at 11:25 am

    I’m a bit perplexed by News Corp and Bolt running dead on the latest in the Pell cash transfer affair (aka “Gategate”) – especially VicPol’s corrupt burial of the Austrac brief.

    I wonder if they have been backgrounded to throw them off. Bolt loves to be the holder of “inside info” (all j’sms do when it comes down to it). Not an official gag order but the sort of thing governments and the MSM do “for the greater good”.
    Something along the lines of …

    “Yes, Vatican money was paid as an ex-gratia payment to various victims who had “fallen through the cracks”. These had no connection to the Pell conviction (may or may not be true) and are very fragile and vulnerable individuals. Any pursuit of these victims could have catastrophic results”.

    Who wants to have a suicide on their hands?

  101. thefrollickingmole

    Arky

    Your comments bit is coming up a little funky at the site.

    So heres some anecdotage..

    Some devout peoples ideas mean they struggle to trust non believers.
    I saw this in detention.
    Had an older chap, hed done a few stupid things and was on most officers shit list.
    I stayed professional and he had a very hard time understanding I was doing it because I saw it as the right thing to do, detached from a religious reason.
    He spent ages trying to “work out”why I was staying professional and not holding a grudge.
    Eventually I told him id gone to Sunday school as a kid (for about 4 weeks, wtf was that about mum & dad?), this was enough for the world to make sense to him again.
    I think he was really, really struggling with the idea that someone would act ‘good”without a religious reason to do so.

  102. Leigh Lowe

    Whether it’s via committee (the AFP, AUSTRAC, ATO all have to front up twice a year or more), or from a Vatican/Italian based news organisation, it’s going to come out.

    Exactlt ‘bern.
    If VikPol run dead, the Vatican can simply name the recipients.

  103. Some History

    Henchmen of the Hunchback

  104. Albatross

    I try not to follow, but I just noticed that Maximum Leader proposes to re-open “major” businesses and eateries. Absolutely disgraceful.

  105. Terry Pedersen

    …. it’s incurious …..

    It’s still unsubstantiated speculation.

  106. Boambee John

    “Yes, Vatican money was paid as an ex-gratia payment to various victims who had “fallen through the cracks”. These had no connection to the Pell conviction (may or may not be true) and are very fragile and vulnerable individuals. Any pursuit of these victims could have catastrophic results”.

    And yet, the Vatican seems to have no official knowledge of these ex gratia payments, and sacked the cardinal who made the supposedly fraudulent transfers.

    I have a bridge for sale …

  107. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Henchmen of the Hunchback

    The Hunchback of Spring Street.

  108. Arky

    Maximum Leader proposes to re-open “major” businesses and eateries.

    ..
    Big business, big government or big union.
    Pick which slimy shit heap you want to climb up.
    Because there ain’t gonna be anything else left after this.

  109. Boambee John

    Terry Pedersen
    #3631018, posted on October 24, 2020 at 12:24 pm
    …. it’s incurious …..

    It’s still unsubstantiated speculation.

    Like much of Seven Nilligan’s work?

  110. Rafe Champion

    Joinn FOGS Friends of Gas Stoves under the banner Save Our Stoves and make the next election a referendum on gas stoves. Could be a cartoonists delight.
    LEAN have been quiet since their call to abandon gas appliances got some airplay, expect them to re-emerge after the election in Queensland.

  111. Farmer Gez

    Scientists have done a comprehensive study of Chairman Dan’s crap and have failed to find a fragment medical fact.

    They concluded “It’s pure shit.”

  112. Some History

    Sounds like Credlin is asking a question of the Hunchback.

  113. Nick

    Regarding the Vatican cash, the narrative will be ‘ just compensation flowing on to victims of church based crime’.

  114. Roger

    Has 7-Nilligan and her associates reported on these transfers since they’ve been confirmed by AUSTRAC and referrals have been made to AFP, VicPol, and ICAB?

    She’s too busy playing “What would St Mary MacKillop say?” about various conservative figures.

  115. Albatross

    Rafe Champion
    #3631023, posted on October 24, 2020 at 12:28 pm

    LEAN should stick their head in an oven. That’s reason enough for us to have gas stoves.

  116. Some History

    The Hunchback simply deflects with “let’s wait for the Board’s findings”.

  117. Leigh Lowe

    dover_beach

    #3630996, posted on October 24, 2020 at 12:08 pm

    Has 7-Nilligan and her associates reported on these transfers since they’ve been confirmed by AUSTRAC and referrals have been made to AFP, VicPol, and ICAB? She and they no longer have an excuse, poor as it was, to ignore the reports any longer since they are now confirmed.

    Here’s the thing d_b.
    A truly disinterested journo would be rubbing their hands together over this.
    Another angle on a story you’ve been following for years, which is on life-support but is suddenly resurrected with the sacking of the 2-I-C at the Vatican, hints at Mafia links, a femme fatale with a handbag fetish, mysterious international money transfers and a prodigal son returning to the inner circle in Rome.
    A ripping yarn.
    Weeks of stories in that one, possibly another book.
    But 7-Nilligan shoulders arms and lets it go through to thekeeper.

  118. Ed Case

    ***Zero evidence money went to Cardinal Pell.***
    Okay.
    But wasn’t the Pell Prosecution supposed to be politically motivated?
    Paying 6 figure sums to a hopeless Heroin addict would seem to be counter productive if the goal was to make sure he lived long enough to give evidence.

  119. Cassie of Sydney

    “It’s still unsubstantiated speculation.”

    Ah Grigs writes something accurate for a change……the whole prosecution against George Pell was based on “unsubstantiated speculation”.

  120. Some History

    Hunchback [to Credlin]: “If you let me finish, I’ll finish”.

  121. Nick

    This is interesting that it’s now promoted as being a ‘smear’. My understanding is that no other allegations have been made other than to simply ask where the money went. It seems a tad defensive.

    Louise Milligan
    @Milliganreports
    I was contacted weeks ago by Italian journalist on this “story”. He said he admired my work & wanted to me to put him in touch with “fake victims”. I repeatedly asked for evidence a complainant received $. He had none. This “story” was an appalling smear. https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/oct/23/victoria-police-wont-investigate-claims-of-vatican-money-transfers-to-australia-linked-to-pell-case?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other&__twitter_impression=true

  122. Some History

    Even Sledgehammer Sutto is fending off questions with “we’ll wait for the Board’s findings”.

  123. Farmer Gez

    Credlin in action, asking The Dictator how Unified Security got the job.

    The Coate Inquiry once again used as a shield to cover the Dictator’s woeful lack of proper governance in contract procurement.

    “Uniquely placed to answer these questions.”

    Lying piece of shit.

  124. Leigh Lowe

    Terry Pedersen

    #3631018, posted on October 24, 2020 at 12:24 pm

    …. it’s incurious …..

    It’s still unsubstantiated speculation.

    That is what everyone is saying, you 40 watt dim bulb.
    The substantiation – one way or the other – should be done.
    The fact that two organisations which are obviously invested in one side of this case (VikPol and the Victorian ALP) do not wish to run an investigation is prima facie evidence that corruption has taken place.

  125. Steve trickler

    7 new cases he sprouts. Do they have the sniffles?

    I wonder where this prick will end up after this? He will have to flee Australia. So much damage has been done.



  126. Ed, can’t wait to see you in Sincs Special Election Prediction thread when he posts it up.

  127. Some History

    A question from Credlin to Sutto.

  128. Some History

    The Hunchback has left the building.

  129. Nick

    At least we know who matter most in Victoria

    Daniel Andrews has tempered the expectations of Victorians — namely hospitality and retail businesses — about the extent to which he will ease coronavirus restrictions this weekend, saying his highly-anticipated Sunday announcement would hinge on the management of new outbreaks.

    The Premier said the state government was closely monitoring a northern suburbs cluster, which grew by four cases on Saturday.

  130. Roger

    … his highly-anticipated Sunday announcement would hinge on the management of new outbreaks.

    I once joked to my SIL in Melbourne that she would be in lockdown until some time in 2021.

    It’s not funny anymore.

  131. Ed Case

    The Vatican is involved in Money Laundering in Australia, and Louise Milligan has all the answers?
    Not seeing the connection here.
    If it’s her background as a former Catholic Schoolgirl, why not ask former Catholic Schoolgirl Peta Credlin the answer?
    Or former Catholic Schoolgirls Annastacia Palaczszuk, Julie Bishop, Michaela Cash, Kelly O’Dwyer, Bridget McKenzie, Geraldine Doogue, Germaine Greer, or a few thousand others?

  132. Some History

    The Hunchback has left the building.

    … he had a bell to ring.

    Brrrrm BAM TISH! TISH!

  133. Cassie of Sydney

    “This “story” was an appalling smear.”

    Geez…7-Nilligan doesn’t have much self awareness…does she? Her book and her whole campaign was ALL “appalling smears”. She is a disgusting, immoral grub.

  134. C.L.

    Let’s not lose sight of something important: legislatively, Austrac only notifies police and investigative authorities if it finds evidence for one of three things: money laundering, terrorism or serious crime.

    It was latter – “serious crime” – that activated the referrals to IBAC, VicPol and the AFP. This was confirmed yesterday by Austrac which advised Senator Fierravanti-Wells their intell had been deemed officially “actionable.”

  135. Some History

    Hunchie’s Henchies.

  136. Cassie of Sydney

    “Not seeing the connection here.”

    Pretty sure you’re not capable of seeing any “connection”. By the way, Julie Bishop isn’t a Catholic and didn’t go to a Catholic school.

  137. dover_beach

    It’s still unsubstantiated speculation.

    What is unsubstantiated? Payments were made. AUSTRAC has confirmed that. They then referred these payments to the AFP and ICAB. The only thing that is unsubstantiated is what these payments were for; that is the only ‘speculation’ that is occuring. We’d also like to know, as a matter of public interest, to whom these payments were made.

  138. Leigh Lowe

    Ed Case
    #3631031, posted on October 24, 2020 at 12:33 pm
    ***Zero evidence money went to Cardinal Pell.***
    Okay.
    But wasn’t the Pell Prosecution supposed to be politically motivated?
    Paying 6 figure sums to a hopeless Heroin addict would seem to be counter productive if the goal was to make sure he lived long enough to give evidence.

    So, Dick-Ed, you are acknowledging that the single witness against Pell was “a hopeless heroin addict”?
    I think we can all relate stories of heroin addicts who stole $40 out of their Grandma’s purse to score leaving her short on the rent money so, yes, a piece of EUR 700k would provide sufficient incentive to lie his arse off.
    From what I can glean, the incentive related to a house, probably held in trust until the deed was done, so not a liquid asset which could be shot up his arm.
    I don’t know for sure, but I think there might have been some level of “treatment” going on around that time. Probably in a very secure location with access to a controlled amount of “mefadone” (or something else) to keep him under control but without the prospect of an OD outside.

  139. C.L.

    What is unsubstantiated?

    Dover, Milligan the lightweight is using the classic leftist straw man ruse:

    This claim – THAT MONEY WAS PAID DIRECTLY INTO THE ACCOUNT OF “J” AND THE OTHERS – is an appalling smear!!!!

    That’s not the claim, you lying dickhead.

  140. Farmer Gez

    That is what everyone is saying, you 40 watt dim bulb.
    The substantiation – one way or the other – should be done.
    The fact that two organisations which are obviously invested in one side of this case (VikPol and the Victorian ALP) do not wish to run an investigation is prima facie evidence that corruption has taken place.

    Shane Patton had the stench of the Pell witch-hunt all over him and won’t be looking for answers.
    Patton isn’t a great performer under any scrutiny.

    He attended a local meeting to try and push for a 80km speed limit for all secondary roads in our shire.
    He got zip.
    His team of experts were overconfident and couldn’t sustain a cogent argument to beat a bunch of bushies.

    They got pounded on inertia and mass in regard to accidents. Not all that bright.

  141. notafan

    Serious crime can be tax evasion or social security fraud.

  142. Leigh Lowe

    Ed Case
    #3631048, posted on October 24, 2020 at 12:50 pm
    The Vatican is involved in Money Laundering in Australia, and Louise Milligan has all the answers?

    Ah, well, Dick-Ed, it is 7-Nilligan herself who claims to have the answers.
    She claims to know it is “all a smear” and that the money did not go towards corrupting her project Court case.
    So, yes, why not ask her how she is so sure of this.
    What access does she have to the banking records of all police, witnesses and prosecutors that gives her that assurance?

  143. EvilElvis

    However, she also said the legal system worked on the presumption of “innocent before proven guilty” and that matters can be complicated.

    “It’s a matter of the weight of evidence, the nature of the charges, there’s a whole range of things to be taken into account, but I’m sure our Attorney-General and others will look at that very closely,” she said during an appearance on 6PR.

    Maybe in the first case, Michelle. Maybe.

  144. Mater

    I once joked to my SIL in Melbourne that she would be in lockdown until some time in 2021.

    Dan may ease some restrictions, and shuffle the deck chairs a little to appease (provide deniability).
    However, you can be sure that what ever he does, he will maintain enough control so as to eliminate the ability for mass protests to occur.
    Legal protests, in significant numbers, is when his house of cards would come crashing down.

    Watch this space. The one constant will be the ability to crush gatherings, socially spaced, or otherwise.

  145. C.L.

    Serious crime can be tax evasion or social security fraud.

    Neither of those are state matters.
    So it’s not tax evasion or social security fraud.

  146. notafan

    Who is ‘the Vatican’ in your comment BJ?

  147. Roger

    Geez…7-Nilligan doesn’t have much self awareness…does she? Her book and her whole campaign was ALL “appalling smears”. She is a disgusting, immoral grub.

    I don’t imagine someone who invokes a saint to authorise her political prejudices has much sense of self-awareness.

  148. Some History

    Anthem for the Hunchback

    Anita Ward – Ring My Bell

  149. Leigh Lowe

    This claim – THAT MONEY WAS PAID DIRECTLY INTO THE ACCOUNT OF “J” AND THE OTHERS – is an appalling smear!!!!

    That’s not the claim, you lying dickhead.

    Yes, note that she assiduously avoids making an assertion about benefits in kind for J and Co.
    Let’s say someone bought a property and then granted J a perpetual licence to occupy the property at a pepper-corn rental for life?
    No money has gone into his account.
    He doesn’t appear on the title if that is ever searched.
    Similarly, a church “higher up” in Canberra contracts with the local car dealer for a fleet of vehicles. One of them just happens to find it’s way to Melbourne and the keys are handed to a faithful servant of the cause.
    None of that involves money going into his account.

  150. notafan

    I guess my point is it’s not necessarily serious crime , all austrac see are funds transfers that might indicate crime, of some sort.

    They didn’t flag these transactions at the time they were made, only now when questions were raised in public.

  151. Roger

    Milligan’s new book is ‘Witness, an investigation into the brutal cost of seeking justice”.

    That’s actually a good topic, but somehow I don’t imagine Cardinal Pell’s road to freedom features in it.

  152. thefrollickingmole

    This is an amazing little article.

    Sums up parts of Austfailias Ponzi people importing economy as well.
    Really worth a RTWT.

    https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/10/city-killing-america-daniel-greenfield/#.X5CSmU-KpNo.twitter
    American cities aren’t hyperdense blocs because of industrial density. Even as the city went into a decline as an industrial center, municipal governments began building huge stacks of public housing meant to cram as many people as cheaply as possible into a single block.

    Why did so many people need to be housed in such a small space? It wasn’t because they had jobs, but because they didn’t. And yet cities needed to keep growing, not because they had too many jobs to fill, but because their political influence depended on human capital.

    The more people a city had, the more votes it commanded, and the more money it got. And the fewer jobs a city had, the more people it needed to boost its political capital and its cash flow.

    Even fifty years ago, cities had stopped making jobs and focused on making people.

    The cities are running out of money, but population growth made them political powerhouses. Even if that power is based on trapping the descendants of black factory workers in urban wastelands, attracting immigrants they can’t employ, and using raw numbers to seize power.

  153. Boambee John

    notafan

    See Leigh Lowe’s post at 1218, it was his try at the excuses that might be offered.

    But Becciu is the obvious name.

  154. jo

    woolfe
    #3631000, posted on October 24, 2020 at 12:14 pm

    Will AFP also roll over

    Where did Cornholelius come from. You have your answer

    Curious to know if Nixon was Cornelius in drag or Cornelius transitioned from Nixon.

  155. jo

    Roger
    #3631074, posted on October 24, 2020 at 1:06 pm

    Milligan’s new book is ‘Witness, an investigation into the brutal cost of seeking justice”.

    A more apt name ‘False Witness’ comes to mind.

  156. C.L.

    I guess my point is it’s not necessarily serious crime

    No.

    It is necessarily “serious crime.”

    Austrac only prepares notifications on:

    1. money laundering
    2. terrorism
    3. “serious financial crime”

    They confirmed yesterday the transfers activated No.3.

  157. Roger

    They didn’t flag these transactions at the time they were made, only now when questions were raised in public.

    The funds were reportedly sent to the account of the Apostolic Nuncio, which would be subject to diplomatic immunity. Presumably the Vaticn has since waived immunity in regard to the account, allowing AUSTRAC to conduct its investigation.

  158. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Offering bribes in kind to witnesses would surely be a criminal offence, as would taking them.

    If the identity of witness J becomes known then some dots may be joinable.

  159. Robber Baron

    Just returned from Northcote plaza, the refuge of sandal wearers and l was in for a bit of a shockvat just how many shops were permanently closed.

    It’s 1990/91 all over again folks!

  160. Leigh Lowe

    Offering bribes in kind to witnesses would surely be a criminal offence, as would taking them.

    Yes, legally there is no difference between cash or other incentives if used to corrupt the process. The point being made is that 7-Nilligan makes reference to “no money went into his account” which precludes payment in kind or in folding cash money.

    If the identity of witness J becomes known then some dots may be joinable.

    Why do you think they are so desperate to keep a lid on that, even after the case has been decided? They know that, as soon as his identity is widely known, all sorts of unsavoury stuff will start to surface about him.

  161. dover_beach

    A truly disinterested journo would be rubbing their hands together over this.

    As Gray, either journalism?

  162. dover_beach

    As Gray would say, wither journalism?

  163. dover_beach

    Dover, Milligan the lightweight is using the classic leftist straw man ruse:

    This claim – THAT MONEY WAS PAID DIRECTLY INTO THE ACCOUNT OF “J” AND THE OTHERS – is an appalling smear!!!!

    Mum: DB, where are the Teddy Bears?
    DB: I did not eat them, mum. How dare you!

    You betray yourself, Milligan.

  164. Leigh Lowe

    The Vatican could play this smart.
    Ask if the investigation is going to proceed and then offer up any recovered funds for victim’s support activities in Australia.
    Makes it a bit difficult for 7-Nilligan to then assert … “But, but, the victims already have the money.”
    Oops.

  165. OldOzzie

    Andrews defends response to new Melbourne cluster

    Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews has defended his government’s response to a new coronavirus outbreak in Melbourne’s northern suburbs, confirming he has met with community leaders and deployed hundreds of health workers to the area to doorknock and provide information and testing.

    Mr Andrews said six of the state’s seven new cases on Saturday were connected to known cases or clusters, including the East Preston [email protected] College outbreak, Croxton Special School, the Hoppers Crossing community outbreak and Estia aged care in Keilor.

    The Premier said he held a virtual meeting with community and faith leaders in Melbourne’s northern suburbs on Saturday morning to discuss the public health response.

    “I want to thank them for the very proactive and cooperative way — the partnership that we have with them,” Mr Andrews said during his daily coronavirus briefing.

    “They’re reaching out to literally hundreds and thousands of people in their own networks, whether they be faith-based or community-based networks, setting up telephone trees, calling upon people to come forward and get tested, making sure that they’re reminding people that, if you’ve been asked to stay in your home — either pending a test result or because you’re a positive or a close contact — that that’s critically important to do.”

    He said there was an adequate number of translators in the health response team and that everybody, regardless of their background, was “in this together”.

    “This virus does not, in any way, discriminate between different members of the Victorian community and neither does the government and its agencies when it comes to providing the most appropriate public health response,” Mr Andrews said.

    The seventh case reported on Saturday is under investigation, but is a person who has previously tested positive for the virus and may be shedding the virus rather than becoming newly infected, Mr Andrews said.

    “We believe it’s likely to be persistent shedding of the virus rather than a new infection but, as we’ve seen all week, from an abundance of caution, those cases are treated as if they were a positive and they’ll be reviewed by the relevant expert panel at the appropriate time,” Mr Andrews said.

    The case related to the Croxton special school is a student whose entire family of four has now tested positive for the virus.

    Victoria now has 98 active cases, just two of which are in regional Victoria and connected to the greater Shepparton cluster.

    “The last time we had less than 100 active cases was June 19,” Mr Andrews said.

    Eight Victorians are being treated in hospital but none of those patients are in intensive care.

  166. Nick

    The Premier said he held a virtual meeting with community and faith leaders

    That’s a bit unusual. He must mean Father Andreaccio in Fawkner perhaps?

  167. Mitch M.

    Religion, Violence, Tolerance & Progress: Nothing to do with Theology

    1) Religions create highly differentiated belief clusters and mentalities that have little to do with their theologies, 2) Heresies are separatist movements, often ethnic, and have little to do with religious doctrine.

    Nassim Nicholas Taleb

    I don’t know if others can access this. Taleb sees the causation in a way more consistent with concepts around group identity. We like to think there are lofty intellectual reasons for choosing our particular interpretation of our faith but the choice had been made before we even thought about theology.

  168. Leigh Lowe

    dover_beach
    #3631092, posted on October 24, 2020 at 1:24 pm
    As Gray would say, wither journalism?

    Is Gray a nun from the Little Sisters of the Poor?

  169. OldOzzie

    ‘Godfather-like’ Vatican cash trail is now a very real drama in the case of George Pell

    Dennis Shanahan

    There are now firmer grounds for an investigation into the mysterious transfers of more than $2m from the Vatican to Melbourne and allegations of attempts to adversely affect the trial of Cardinal George Pell for child sexual abuse. Federal and state authorities are now under more pressure to resolve the twin issues of the transfer of murky millions and allegations raised during Vatican investigations that Pell’s prosecution was perverted.

    Three weeks ago, Australia was suddenly pulled into investigations concerning international fraud involving Vatican funds when Italian newspapers reported that Vatican investigators had been told $1.1m had been secretly sent to Australia to adversely ­affect Pell’s trial.

    On Monday night these allegations spectacularly took solid shape when NSW Liberal Senator Concetta Fierravanti-Wells was told in the Senate that there were transfers, that they were being checked and that there were grounds for further investigations.

    There is still no official link being made between the transfers and the Pell trial, but what was a fluid conspiracy theory suddenly has more weight.

    No fewer than four investigating agencies — the international financial transfer watchdog Austrac, the Australian Federal Police, Victoria Police and Victoria’s Independent Broad-based Anti-­corruption Commission — are now involved in examining the money transfers to Australia.

    Meanwhile, Vatican investigators in Rome are looking at an international scandal ­involving millions of dollars in ­improper payments, opaque transfers, lavish spending and fraudulent activity surrounding a $363m property investment in London.

    As the scandal grows, there have been two arrests on charges of fraud, embezzlement and money laundering; five suspensions of senior Vatican officials; and the sacking of Cardinal Giovanni Angelo Becciu from his high-ranking position running the Congregation for the Causes of Saints.

    Cardinal Becciu, who has denied all wrongdoing, was the deputy secretary of state until 2018 and had a well-known rivalry with Cardinal Pell when the latter was appointed as the head of Vatican finances. Italian newspapers La Repubblica and Corriere della Sera have reported that Vatican investigators were told money was sent to Australia to help the case against Cardinal Pell, a claim yet to be substantiated.

    In a statement, Cardinal Becciu said: “I categorically deny interfering in any way in the trial of Cardinal Pell.”

    But the claims and the existence of transfers — which The Australian has revealed were more than $2m wired to Australia between February 2017 and June 2018 — gave Austrac something to look at. The four transfers connected to the Vatican secretariat covered the period from when Victorian police were preparing briefs for charges against the cardinal up to the committal hearing and two trials.

    After examining the transfers, Austrac deemed there was “actionable financial intelligence” in relation to serious crime. It sent ­secret details to the AFP and Victoria Police for investigation. So, Austrac has confirmed the existence of suspect money transfers from Italy and considered them serious enough to be investigated.

    The AFP and Victoria police now have the financial intelligence and can conduct investigations because Austrac has no investigatory powers. But the AFP not only looked at the Austrac intelligence itself but also passed the “actionable financial intelligence” directly to the Victorian Independent Broad-based Anti-corruption Commission.

    The significance of the passing of Austrac information from the AFP to IBAC is that the anti-corruption body’s charter is to “identify and prevent serious corrupt conduct across the whole (Victorian) public sector” which includes public servants, police, the judiciary and even members of parliament.

    There is no proof or official suggestion that anyone from the Vatican or Victoria has done anything at all wrong, let alone in regard to Cardinal Pell who was charged in June 2017 with a series of sexual assault offences. He was acquitted of the charges by the High Court in April this year.

    But what was unsubstantiated, Hollywood-style Godfather film talk three weeks ago is now deemed “actionable financial intelligence of serious crime” and is being looked at by four separate criminal and corruption bodies covering international financial crimes, money laundering and serious corruption of public officials.

    It may all come to nothing. There may be no link to Pell’s trial and the money may have been for renovating the Vatican embassy in Canberra. But now, at long last, various Australian authorities are investigating.

  170. egg_

    PREMIER DANIEL ANDREWS ADMITTED THIS WEEK THAT A CRIPPLING OVERNIGHT CURFEW WAS HIS DECISION, AND NOT A RECOMMENDATION OF EITHER HEALTH OR POLICE AUTHORITIES.

    Enabled by the Unions, the Unions effectively running the State – what could possibly go wrong, oh wait…

  171. Ed Case

    ***From what I can glean, the incentive related to a house, probably held in trust until the deed was done, so not a liquid asset which could be shot up his arm.
    I don’t know for sure, but I think there might have been some level of “treatment” going on around that time. Probably in a very secure location with access to a controlled amount of “mefadone” (or something else) to keep him under control but without the prospect of an OD outside.
    ***
    Pretty thin gruel, Leigh.

    Not sure that suborning witnesses falls under “Serious Crime” at Austrac, plus it’s a State Matter.
    Your Conspiracy Theory involves Senior Police, Crown Law, the ABC, Judges, Junkies, and the MSM all acting in concert over a period of years
    Doesn’t sound very plausible to me.

  172. Dave in Marybrook

    Milligan is an awful piece of work.
    So you were contacted by an arrogant Italian journalist, repeatedly? OK then , you’re safe from being fired or sued in the international piss-filled kiddie pool of Twitter, so name and shame him. Post the emails. You’re a journalist, you’ve got the docs.
    ie, pics or it didn’t happen.

  173. Terry Pedersen

    Has 7-Nilligan and her associates reported on these transfers since they’ve been confirmed by AUSTRAC

    AUSTRAC hasn’t confirmed any transfers. Its CEO has only confirmed that AUSTRAC has looked into the matter and provided advice to the AFP and VicPol.

  174. Makka

    I think the surging copper prices and USD index remaining weak (Risk On) are advertising that not only will there be a Trump victory but that a significant US construction boom is ahead. Yes supply is an issue, but then it always is when infrastructure build out ramps up.

  175. From Powerline article about Gene Simmons leaving California.

    Recently “The Rock” indicated his support for Biden. He is top earning actor and if he is CA resident I wonder if he has realised 62% of his income over $400,000 will be going in tax.

    CA is in massive decline and seems no hope to save it. Just have to hope those leaving don’t vote Democrat in their new States.

    “[Simmons] is now putting the property, which they later redeveloped into a sprawling European-style mansion, on the market for $22 million. The reason: They are moving to a 24-acre estate in Washington, near Mount Rainier, to escape the tax burden of living in California, Mr. Simmons said.

    “California and Beverly Hills have been treating folks that create jobs badly and the tax rates are unacceptable,” he said. “I work hard and pay my taxes and I don’t want to cry the Beverly Hills blues but enough is enough.”

  176. candy

    Someone or an entity received stolen monies, whether knowing it was stolen or not.

    It they received money not knowing it was stolen and used it for say, help to victims, you would think they would just pop their heads up and say so. Do they think that would cause some harm to them if they are in the habit of being philantropic?
    Why not set the record straight and avoid other people falling into the trap of accepting donations of stolen money from shonky cardinals at the Vatican.

  177. OldOzzie

    Trump Admin Leads 32 Nations in U.N. Rebuke: No International ‘Right’ to Abortion

    The Trump administration led a 32-nation signing ceremony of a declaration that affirms there is no international right to abortion.

    On Thursday, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Secretary of Health & Human Services Alex Azar co-hosted the virtual signing of the Geneva Consensus Declaration along with the governments of Brazil, Egypt, Hungary, Indonesia, and Uganda.

    The declaration serves as a rebuke to the pro-abortion rights U.N. and World Health Organization (W.H.O.).

    It states the nations join to promote women’s health as well as the “strength of the family and of a successful and flourishing society.” The governments also affirm “the essential priority of protecting the right to life.”

    The nations that signed onto the declaration, which represent 1.6 billion people, also “reaffirm ‘all are equal before the law,’” and that “human rights of women are an inalienable, integral, and indivisible part of all human rights and fundamental freedoms.”

    The governments declare “the inherent ‘dignity and worth of the human person,’ that ‘every human being has the inherent right to life,’ and the commitment ‘to enable women to go safely through pregnancy and childbirth and provide couples with the best chance of having a healthy infant.’”

    The declaration emphasizes that “in no case should abortion be promoted as a method of family planning,” and that “the family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.”

    The governments also assert that “women and girls must enjoy equal access to quality education, economic resources, and political participation,” as well as equal access to employment and decision-making.

    “This is the first time these nations have committed to working together – despite cultural and religious differences – to ensure that human rights are extended to every member of the human family,” Father Frank Pavone, national director of Priests for Life, observed in a statement.

    Susan B. Anthony List President Marjorie Dannenfelser praised the commitment of the Trump administration to the right to life:

    Abortion is not health care. Sovereign nations have the right to protect their most vulnerable citizens, including the unborn, and to be free from bullying and coercive efforts to expand abortion on demand. From day one, President Trump and his administration have worked to stop the exportation of abortion, making respect for life the official policy of the United States in our international relations. We join our friends around the world in celebrating this landmark declaration, which builds on the Trump administration’s commitment to promote authentic human rights and dignity at every turn.

    Additionally, seven member nations of the Organization of American States (OAS) signed a joint statement that affirms “every human being has the right to life, liberty and the security of his person,” and that it is the sovereign right of nations to make their own laws protecting life from the moment of conception.

    “President Trump is standing for the defense of life in the Americas like no other president in history,” Alfonso Aguilar, president of the Latino Partnership for Conservative Principles, said,

  178. Leigh Lowe

    Nick
    #3631100, posted on October 24, 2020 at 1:33 pm
    The Premier said he held a virtual meeting with community and faith leaders

    That’s a bit unusual. He must mean Father Andreaccio in Fawkner perhaps?

    I heard that.
    Fucking laughable.
    They went all out deploying the crack 101st Fat Lezzo Squadron to the streets of East St Kilda and Caulfield to make sure the Choos weren’t stepping out of line, whilst the Mueslis were cutting loose up North.

  179. rickw

    The Hunchback of Spring Street.

    I’ve read Gunners draft script, it needs work but it’s almost certainly destined for Broadway.

  180. Roger

    Nassim Nicholas Taleb:

    The (Protestant) Puritans who inhabited New England and the Salafis of Saudi Arabia and the Persian Gulf have nearly identical theologies, based on shared communitarianism (refusal of a centralized authority), iconoclasm (absence of representation, of saints, and of any elaborate aesthetics), absence of an organized “church”, and very stern practice of the religion. And never forget that it is the exact same God that they are worshiping.

    That’s lazy thinking worthy of an undergraduate.

    On his thesis, I can see some valid points in it in regard to the role of identity and religion but he’s painting with a very broad brush.

  181. rickw

    They went all out deploying the crack 101st Fat Lezzo Squadron to the streets of East St Kilda and Caulfield to make sure the Choos weren’t stepping out of line, whilst the Mueslis were cutting loose up North.

    The Northern Swarthies would have completely fucked up the 101st Fat Lezzo Division.

    You want to know how A2A would be effective?

    Look at the Northern Swarthies. Being able to get 50 military aged men to any “incident” within 10 minutes with their illegal firearms certainly seems to make Vikpol very considerate of their human rights.

    The humble and law abiding Cho’s, not so much.

  182. thefrollickingmole

    PREMIER DANIEL ANDREWS ADMITTED THIS WEEK THAT A CRIPPLING OVERNIGHT CURFEW WAS HIS DECISION, AND NOT A RECOMMENDATION OF EITHER HEALTH OR POLICE AUTHORITIES.

    Thats unlawful.
    There should be nothing more to be said till Slugs and grubs run the class action against Maximum dans estate.

  183. cohenite

    In a 51-46 vote, lawmakers agreed to a motion to “proceed to Executive Session for the consideration of Executive Calendar #890 Amy Coney Barrett to be an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States.” Sens. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) and Susan Collins (R-ME) reportedly voted against moving into Executive Session.

    Both these kunts need to undergo ordeal by water cucking.

  184. areff

    Just suppose someone recently landed a nice little job with the Victorian Public Service. Wouldn’t departmental ethics investigators be interested in a new hire living beyond his means?

    And the ATO might have its curiosity tickled as well.

  185. JC

    From Powerline article about Gene Simmons leaving California.

    I didn’t know Gene’s married to Shannon Tweed.

    In the 90s there would always be a soft-porn movie on Showtime every Friday night. She was doing like very third of fourth movie.

  186. Fat Tony

    dover_beach
    #3631090, posted on October 24, 2020 at 1:24 pm
    A truly disinterested journo would be rubbing their hands together over this.

    There’s the rub – we have truly uninterested journos.

  187. rickw

    There should be nothing more to be said till Slugs and grubs run the class action against Maximum dans estate.

    Could be quite lucrative if they manage to tap his Chicom pension fund!

  188. Tim Neilson

    The (Protestant) Puritans who inhabited New England and the Salafis of Saudi Arabia and the Persian Gulf have nearly identical theologies,

    Apart from that bit about Jesus Christ being God Himself in human form.
    Minor detail I know, but just for accuracy.
    Oh, wait, maybe there are a few other things, like not stoning people to death, not having a gold card to disobey earthly governments, not having the right to enslave or [email protected] non-believers …

  189. thefrollickingmole

    https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/publications/research-papers/download/36-research-papers/13962-emergency-powers-public-health-and-covid-19

    Public directions
    Sections 199 and 200 of the Act grant the Chief Health Officer expansive powers to issue directions and set requirements to eliminate or reduce risks to public health. These powers include:

    § detaining any person or group for as long as reasonably necessary to eliminate or reduce a serious risk to public health;

    § restricting the movement of any person within Victoria;

    § preventing any person or group from entering Victoria; and

    § giving any other direction reasonably necessary to protect public health.

    The Act stipulates responsibilities for Authorised Officers in detaining individuals, how an authorised detention is to be given, penalties for the failure to comply, and compensation available if the detained person ‘considers that there were insufficient grounds for the giving of that authorisation’.

  190. JC

    Forgive the Leb. Sometimes Taleb says some really stupid shit. That’s just him though.

  191. Knuckle Dragger

    Hmm. Chairman Struth, Gatekeeper of the One True Path at 9.44:

    ‘I said here straight out I won’t be doing anything, because I have done enough, and sneering low scum Australians deserve all they are going to get.’

    You’ll come back and read this Struth.

    Done enough, have you? Got a family to consider, have you? Because you said both those things.

    Lemme ask you this – why are you so different to the dozens of posters here who gone to protests, who have protested, who have done things and who also have families to consider?

    Writing a form letter full of SovCit terminology to Alan Jones is not protesting any more than anybody else. Changing a handful of words to a song and making a cover – yeah, not my personal thing but I can see that would appeal to some.

    I’ll say it again. You lost me completely when you cloaked whatever legitimacy you had in battledress and started running the Anzac line. You didn’t need it for legitimacy but because you trashed your brand by using it, you destroyed the lot.

    ‘sneering low scum Australians’ – this is you Struth. Sneering at people ACTUALLY losing livelihoods and life savings because they’re not reciting ‘Guterres UN agrarian ScoMo Credlin supply chain cenotaph Soros Long March’ in the accent you would prefer.

    Maybe you could write a poem and read it out in food courts. Oh, right.

  192. Leigh Lowe

    Your Conspiracy Theory involves Senior Police, Crown Law, the ABC, Judges, Junkies, and the MSM all acting in concert over a period of years
    Doesn’t sound very plausible to me.

    What?
    Listen up you fucking dullard.
    How does Becciu’s man in Canberra buying an apartment and granting J a lifetime licence to use it involve any more than Becciu, his man in Canberra, a solicitor and J himself?
    It doesn’t mean anyone else was in on the joke right from the start but, as CL says, some of them are being remarkably incurious about the possibility, albeit after the fact.

  193. JC

    Hahahahahahahahahaha

    Larry Schweikart
    @LarrySchweikart
    So, eleven days out, Demented Perv Biteme is campaigning in . . .

    Delaware?

    I’m still not predicting a Trump win until Barrie Cassidy announces his prediction for Biteme Hiden.
    That’s a more disciplined approach.

    We have two, Monster and Van Onelson, but we need the third to make it 100% Trump will win.

  194. miltonf

    ‘I said here straight out I won’t be doing anything, because I have done enough, and sneering low scum Australians deserve all they are going to get.’

    What a tool. Some some of messiah complex?

  195. JC

    All well a good, but we need Barrie. Where the fuck is Barrie?

    Aaron J. Carpenter
    Flag of United States
    @aaronjcarpenter
    ·

    Independents and undecideds are breaking for Trump, big-time, when he needs it the most.

    Just. Like. 2016.

    The media is going to be very upset on the evening of 11/3. I’m talking about tears on national television. Total shock. Total meltdown. Defeatist depression, live.

  196. Gab

    It was latter – “serious crime” – that activated the referrals to IBAC, VicPol and the AFP. This was confirmed yesterday by Austrac which advised Senator Fierravanti-Wells their intell had been deemed officially “actionable.”

    And yet VicPol and ”journalists” think is a nothingburger (h/t C.L.)

  197. OldOzzie

    coyotes

    Plural form of coyote, kī-ō′tē, kī′ōt″►

    1. A wolflike carnivorous mammal (Canis latrans) of North and Central America, having grayish-brown or yellowish fur, large erect ears, and a drooping bushy tail.
    2. A firefighter who is sent to battle remote, usually very severe forest fires, often for days at a time.
    3. A person who smuggles illegal immigrants into the United States, especially across the Mexican border.

  198. Ed Case

    Uh, Leigh-explain how the lifetime use of an apartment in Canberra would be of any value to a middle aged Melbourne Junkie?
    You’ve got proof of this remarkable scenario, or did you just pull it outta your ass?

  199. rickw

    We have two, Monster and Van Onelson, but we need the third to make it 100% Trump will win.

    What’s the hold up with testicle face?

  200. thefrollickingmole

    He still has some good hits, and that article isnt as bad as the quotes make out.


    Nassim Nicholas Taleb’s Wisdom
    @TalebWisdom
    “Those who have equal rights today are complaining much, much more than when they didn’t have them.” – Nassim Taleb #equality
    9:27 PM · Oct 17, 2020·TalebWisdom

  201. miltonf

    I’ve said before that Bidet has zero accomplishments but there is one- enriching himself and his family at the expense of the real US economy.

  202. OldOzzie

    North Carolina Poll: Thom Tillis, Cal Cunningham Tied

    Sen. Thom Tillis (R-NC) and North Carolina Senate Democrat candidate Cal Cunningham are tied, according to a poll released on Friday.

    A Rasmussen Reports survey found that Tillis and Cunningham are tied at 45 percent each, with four percent of likely voters preferring another candidate, and six percent remain undecided.

    Of the 47 percent of likely voters that said they have already voted, Cunningham has a 13-point advantage or 54 to 41 percent.

    Ninety-four percent of North Carolina voters said they would vote in the 2020 elections.

    Support for either Cunningham or Tillis depends on whether voters rank Trump’s performance as president or the economy as their most important issue. Cunningham wins 56 percent support among North Carolina voters that put Trump’s performance as the most pressing issue, whereas 63 percent of voters prefer Tillis when they rank the economy as the most important issue.

    Cunningham also leads among women and voters under 40-years-old, whereas Tillis leads among men and older voters.

    Eighty-two percent of Republicans back Tillis, but only 74 percent of Democrats back Cunningham.

    The poll arises as Cunningham has continued to dodge media interviews since the media started reporting on his multiple affair allegations.

  203. egg_

    I try not to follow, but I just noticed that Maximum Leader proposes to re-open “major” businesses and eateries. Absolutely disgraceful.

    Da Unions give da nod?

  204. JC

    What’s the hold up with testicle face?

    Dude, I think he could be hesitant after the huge 16 face plant when on the evening of the vote being counted the imbecile reckoned he saw absolutely no pathway for Trump to win the election. He’s a little sheepish after that.

    I’ve tweeted him to hurry on, but he’s not listening. I might try again.
    Damn, I’m really impatient.

  205. Bruce of Newcastle

    And never forget that it is the exact same God that they are worshiping.

    News to me.
    Methinks Mr Taleb needs to do some study on such things.

  206. Pedro the Loafer

    I wish someone would give me a lifetime rent free Canberra apartment.

    I would rent it out to Sudanese reffos.

    Then buy popcorn.

  207. notafan

    Okay serious crime that includes ‘data matching with the ATO to identify
    individuals who may not be declaring income or paying their tax and Department of Human Services to help combat benefit fraud …’

    It’s financial transactions intel that may point to serious crime or not. Whatever the intel the receiving agency has to do substantial legwork to verify the validity of the transactions. Austrac don’t see non cash domestic transfers, that would require entity level legal notices to individual banks.
    I dont know what info austrac gave vicpol or why vicpol have said nfa but a mere referral isn’t proof of serious crime.

  208. Leigh Lowe

    Ed Case
    #3631140, posted on October 24, 2020 at 2:14 pm
    Uh, Leigh-explain how the lifetime use of an apartment in Canberra would be of any value to a middle aged Melbourne Junkie?
    You’ve got proof of this remarkable scenario, or did you just pull it outta your ass?

    OK, dumb xunt.
    Read exactly what I wrote, and tell me where I said the apartment was in Canberra:-

    How does Becciu’s man in Canberra buying an apartment and granting J a lifetime licence to use it involve any more than Becciu, his man in Canberra, a solicitor and J himself?

    Oh, and for your info, the apartment is, in fact, in Hawthorn.

  209. egg_

    The 1957 film Gunfight at the O.K. Corral made the shootout famous and the public was incorrectly led to believe it was the actual location of the altercation. Despite the historical inaccuracy, the corral is marketed as the location of the shootout, and visitors can pay to see a reenactment of the gunfight. The corral is now part of the Tombstone Historic District.

    Wyatt is often erroneously regarded as the central figure in the shootout, although his brother Virgil was Tombstone town marshal and Deputy U.S. Marshal that day and had far more experience as a sheriff, constable, marshal, and soldier in combat.

  210. Struth

    I hereby denounce and renounce the Liberal Party and all who sail in her.
    I resign my office as a higher-up in the local branch and will no longer cow-tow to them again.
    There.
    I said it.

    #ALPastroturf

  211. OldOzzie

    WATCH: Donald Trump’s ‘YMCA’ Rally Dance Inspires TikTok Challenge

    Video of President Donald Trump dancing at one of his rallies on October 12 has gone viral and sparked a TikTok challenge in the process.

    The Daily Caller tweeted a video of the president grooving on the stage to the Village People’s “YMCA” after a rally in Florida on October 12:

    Trump pointed to the crowd, then pumped his fists back and forth as he stepped in time to the music.

    Clips of his moves at other rallies have gone viral, and TikTok users are now dancing alongside him in their own videos, according to CBS News.

    “Many TikTokers are pairing their videos with a particular mashup of two songs: Cold Play’s ‘Viva La Vida’ and Savage’s ‘Swing,’” the outlet said.

    TikTok user Julia Keith reportedly started the trend, and the video shows her copying President Trump’s moves in what appears to be her kitchen.

    Ivanka Trump shared the clip to her Twitter page Sunday evening, writing, “Love it!”:

    Tweet
    Ivanka Trump
    @IvankaTrump
    19 Oct
    Love it!

    Quote Tweet
    brad
    @brad89739161
    · 19 Oct
    Everyone is doing the Trump

  212. Dave in Marybrook

    Megyn Kelly- ie Bombshell– has pure and simply called the debate for Trump.
    She might have Humble Pie coming out of her… wherever… but it’s a good sign that she can see what a lot of the MSM won’t.

  213. dover_beach

    I don’t know if others can access this. Taleb sees the causation in a way more consistent with concepts around group identity. We like to think there are lofty intellectual reasons for choosing our particular interpretation of our faith but the choice had been made before we even thought about theology.

    Is he making a sociological claim? Sure, probably plays a significant role in the diffusion of such beliefs, but this would also be true for any system of thought, not merely, religion. My problem with this is that it is subject to the genetic fallacy if you move to the further claim that simply because of this X or Y is wrong. Even though people, for instance, believe the earth is round because the culture/ group they are a part of do so too doesn’t mean the earth is round is a n error nor that the intellectual justifications for such a belief are irrelevant. Most times, it is enough that the multitude simply know such justifications are available.

  214. Leigh Lowe

    miltonf
    #3631135, posted on October 24, 2020 at 2:12 pm
    ‘I said here straight out I won’t be doing anything, because I have done enough, and sneering low scum Australians deserve all they are going to get.’

    What a tool. Some some of messiah complex?

    Yes.
    As KD points out, when he does something, he is bravely standing firm against the ‘Guterres UN agrarian ScoMo Credlin supply chain cenotaph Soros Long March’.
    When others do exactly the same thing (eg writing to a politician) those actions are somehow “soft-cock, women-cow, futile exercises which are just playing into the Credlin-Liberal’s hands”.
    It seems that the only distinguishing feature as to whether a course of action is useful is whether or not it is sanctioned by The Ministry of Struth.

  215. C.L.

    Note that Shanahan (in the piece I referred to earlier and subsequently posted above in full by OldOzzie) is not aware VicPol has already dropped the Austrac brief.

    The article was filed late Friday night.

    Newspapers used to pride themselves on knowing shit and then dispatching a reporter to sniff around for answers. The Australian has become too much of a vanity newspaper for retirement age columnists who are just phoning it in.

    Murdoch should eviscerate The Australian and import some hard chargers.

  216. thefrollickingmole

    I think testie face has his say here, but i dont have the will to listen & confirm it.

    https://twitter.com/EmmaShortis/status/1319157817526218752

    “I can’t see how anyone could possibly argue that the re-election of Donald Trump would be good for Australia.”

    This week in Barely Gettin’ By,
    @DrChlod
    and I were very lucky to speak to
    @barriecassidy
    about the history of the United States in the world.

  217. Bruce of Newcastle

    Wyatt is often erroneously regarded as the central figure in the shootout

    Virgil Earp sounds like a disease. At least though he wasn’t called Sue.

  218. Shannon Tweed, that brings back some mammaries.

  219. thefrollickingmole

    Just in case theres any doubt Bawwie is a slug.

    Following the acquittal of Cardinal George Pell by the High Court of Australia in 2020, Cassidy tweeted “The High Court has found there was not enough evidence to convict. It did not find him innocent. You are then entitled to maintain your view and you are under no obligation to apologise for holding those views.

  220. Ed Case

    ***Okay serious crime that includes ‘data matching with the ATO to identify
    individuals who may not be declaring income or paying their tax and Department of Human Services to help combat benefit fraud …’
    ***
    Doesn’t sound too Serious to me.
    If it’s not Money Laundering or Terrorism, that doesn’t leave much.
    Murder, perhaps?

  221. Mark from Melbourne

    Arky,

    I’d love to comment on your site, but the email/name login box is entirely useless under both Firefox and Chrome.

  222. OldOzzie

    The Hunter Biden Corruption Scandal Is a Reckoning for the Legacy Media

    New revelations from Hunter Biden’s laptop and his former business partner, Tony Bobulinski, have implicated former Vice President Joe Biden in his son’s notorious business deals in Ukraine, China, and elsewhere. More evidence for the evolving story is emerging, day by day. Yet the very same media outlets that ran with the “salacious and unverified” Steele dossier recounting outlandish claims about President Donald Trump and Russia have refused to cover this very real scandal, despite its clear implications in the two weeks before the 2020 election.

    While the scandal is particularly damning for Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr., who has yet to give a detailed response to the allegations, it also stands as a particularly ugly indictment on the left-leaning legacy media outlets that have rushed to bury an evolving scandal in the critical days before a presidential election.

    – Why it matters
    – Big Tech sets the agenda
    – The legacy media blinds itself

  223. miltonf

    LL there seem to be a lot of nasty old codgers from north of the Tweed here.

  224. P

    Australian police not investigating Vatican money transfer

    “In the absence of any other evidence or intelligence, Victoria Police has noted the advice from AUSTRAC. We are not at this time conducting any further investigation,” a police statement said.

    But it does not rule out criminality or corruption in the money transfers.

    Australian Federal Police said Wednesday it was “undertaking a review of the relevant information” provided by AUSTRAC. A review of evidence is a preliminary step toward an official criminal investigation.

    Federal Police has also referred information to the Victorian Independent Broad-based Anti-corruption Commission, an anti-graft agency that investigates the state public sector, including police.

    The commission has declined comment “for legal and operational reasons.”

  225. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I won’t be doing anything, because I have done enough’

    Sounds like somebody’s mother playing for sympathy to a wayward child who wants a lift to the Year 12 formal.

  226. miltonf

    The Australian has become too much of a vanity newspaper for retirement age columnists who are just phoning it in.

    Murdoch should eviscerate The Australian and import some hard chargers.

    To some extent I think the Oz has always been a bit of a vanity rag- iirc it has never made a profit since Murdoch started in 1964. Newspapers are so 18th century anyway. Maybe an Australian Breitbart would be a goer- plenty of good writers here who could contribute.

  227. Ed Case

    Let’s assume Leigh Lowe’s assertion is factual.
    The question then becomes: What was Witness “J” paid for?
    Because his evidence was the basis for the Unanimous HC decision to order Acquittal of the Charges.
    So, what was he paid for, who paid him?
    Cui Bono?

  228. Zatara

    So, eleven days out, Demented Perv Biteme is campaigning in . . .

    Delaware?

    Biden served as a Senator from Delaware for 36 straight years leaving office only to run as Obama’s VP.
    Delaware wouldn’t know how to not vote for Biden to save their lives.
    He’d still be a Senator from Delaware if Obama didn’t need an ineffectual white boy on his ticket.
    Perhaps most importantly, Biden’s basement is in Delaware.
    It’s his comfort zone.

    Of course he could be making the ballsy move of gunning for Delaware’s 3 Electoral College votes. That’s right, 3. The only state in the nation with less is Maine. Wash DC has 3 Electoral College votes for crying out loud

    Nah, Delaware is his pacifier. Oh, and he’s an idiot.

    The only way this imbecile wins is massive voter fraud.

  229. dopey

    Glen Boss pretty keen on his mount Sir Dragonet in the Cox Plate. First-up at 2040 m. Unthinkable to an Aussie trainer.

  230. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Because his evidence was the basis for the Unanimous HC decision to order Acquittal of the Charges.’

    No It Wasn’t, And You Have Been Clearly Taking Legal Studies Lessons From Karate Poof.

    Go Away And Think About It, Without Becoming Distracted By Nazi Salutes In Queensland And Traffic Control Bats Or Random Capitalisation.

  231. Mother Lode

    If “J” ends up a shrunken, desiccated, grey corpse in a back ally with a syringe jutting from his arm the progressives will be able to moan that the ordeal that started it all years ago, and then the humiliation of being denied justice by the courts was just too much.

  232. OldOzzie

    The Inside Story of Formula 1’s Coronavirus Collapse

    How mighty F1 fell to the virus.

    I got this text on Tuesday, March 3rd:

    Can you go to Kannapolis, North Carolina, on Thursday and then Melbourne, Australia, the weekend of 3/15 to do a 3500-word feature on Haas F1’s do-or-die season?

    I’ve been a fan of Formula 1 for more than a decade. I’ve been a journalist—a career blend of sports and technology—for more than two decades. But I’d never been to a Formula 1 race. I’d never even seen a running F1 car.

    There was only one answer to that text: Hell, yes!

    The top of the hour came, and mechanics streamed through the gates. I watched them stride purposefully toward their garages: Williams, Haas, Alfa Romeo, Racing Point. McLaren’s mechanics obviously weren’t there. But neither were Mercedes’s. Or Ferrari’s. Renault’s crew was missing, as well. Four of the ten teams on the grid were absent.

    “Who’s in charge?” I asked one team principal.

    “Who the fuck knows?” he responded.

    Then, an official announcement: the race was canceled. It was 10:11 AM.

    “It is a pretty difficult situation to predict. Everybody uses the word ‘fluid’ and it is a fluid situation,” Carey said, having finally arrived. “The situation today is different than it was two days ago, and it was different than four days ago. Trying to look out and make those sorts of predictions, when it is changing this quick, it is challenging.”

    Once I was done, I decided to spend my last evening in Melbourne exploring the city.

    The streets in the central business district were thronged. I saw people in suits leaving their jobs, tourists like me gazing at their phones to find their way around, babies in strollers. I came across a large band of F1 fans—maybe some of the same ones who were stuck outside the gate with me earlier in the day. It appeared that they had spent the intervening time in a pub.

    I had come to Melbourne with a long list of bars and restaurants to try, recommendations from friends and colleagues, all carefully entered into Google Maps for easy access. I called up the map and found myself wandering back and forth through downtown Melbourne, seemingly unable to commit to a spot. A light rain started to fall.

    As for me, I spent 50 hours and 48 minutes traveling 21,896 miles to and from Australia. I spent 52 hours and 11 minutes on the ground in Melbourne.

    I’ve still never seen a running F1 car.

  233. Geriatric Mayfly

    Just returned from Northcote plaza, the refuge of sandal wearers

    Things have gone down hill since my day. Superior footwear was once the Northcote Stiletto ie. black moccasins.

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