US 2020 Election Post-Mortem Thread II

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  1. kaysee

    Great people
    Great patriots
    Great Americans

    These are Americans who know what has really happened (despite the fake media), and they are prepared to support Trump to get the legal election results.

  2. Zatara

    Nope, they confirmed they followed it.

    No, they didn’t.

  3. miltonf

    One thing we know for sure after the last three weeks- the legacy media is beyond reform. Calling them venal is an understatement.

  4. FelixKruell

    Cohenite:

    The courts addressed that – no evidence of scrutineers being absent from the count.

    You’re a fucking liar. FOAD.

    Even Trumps legal team ended up admitting it.

    But, under questioning by U.S. District Judge Paul S. Diamond, Trump campaign lawyer Jerome Marcus admitted that there were Republican observers present — rather famously saying there were “a nonzero number of people in the room.”

    And then this:

    The Trump campaign filed suit in federal court on Nov. 9 seeking to prevent Pennsylvania from certifying its election results. As an alternative, the campaign sought to certify the state’s results without including 682,479 mail-in ballots from the heavily-Democratic counties of Philadelphia and Allegheny, claiming those ballots were processed “without review by the political parties.” But that request to exclude the ballots in those two counties was later withdrawn in an amended complaint. (In a separate case, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled that Philadelphia gave both parties adequate access to review the ballot counting.)

    And similar cases in other close states were either dismissed, or withdrawn by Trump.

  5. FelixKruell

    Zatara:

    What Pennsylvania told the court:

    Pursuant to unambiguous guidance issued more than a week ago—and reiterated in additional guidance and official correspondence—the Secretary of the Commonwealth has already instructed—and this Court has now ordered—each of Pennsylvania’s 67 county boards of elections to segregate mail-in and absentee ballots that arrived after 8:00 p.m. on November 3 and until 5:00 p.m. last evening, November 6. Having already been denied a stay and then denied expedited consideration of its petition for a writ of certiorari, the Republican Party now returns to ask this Court to issue an injunction ordering Pennsylvania’s counties to do that which the Commonwealth has already directed counties to do and which the counties are already doing.
    There is no evidence that any county is disobeying that clear guidance to segregate these votes, and the Republican Party offers only speculation that certain unidentified counties may ignore that repeated guidance or that the Secretary will inconsistently change course.

    And 2 weeks later, no action by Trumps team to suggest the order was not followed. Doesn’t that tell you something?

    And besides:

    Since the ballots had already been segregated, they were not included in the state’s vote count and thus not counting them will not affect Biden’s win in Pennsylvania.

  6. Armadillo

    I’m home. Has mOntster apologised yet?

    Everyone needs to remember that he came on here pretending his “Dearly Beloved Dog” had passed away. Got alot of sympathy. Turns out that he was on Twitter telling his mates he let the poor bastard out of the car in the middle of Melbourne without a leash. It had no chance. Squish.

    mOntifa isn’t a reliable source.

  7. egg_

    Numbers, Mont and Felix. The three on duty hosemen of the bonfire of the Dem Apocalypse.

    Like the brave hosemen on board USS Forrestal – with live ammo on the burning deck!

  8. Armadillo

    He also screwed over JC for some weird bet for a meal, and made JC crash his car.

    Not to be trusted.

  9. It’s fun to replay each and every loss that you lot and the Trump campaign have shared together. Trump is even paying millions of dollars just so he can lose again on recount! At some point it just gets sad, though.

  10. Armadillo

    mOnts needs to apologise.

  11. Some History

    Patience, Montifa. All will be revealed soon. Just a few more sleeps. Not as many sleeps as Christmas. Now see if you can contain your histrionics in the interim.

  12. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Everyone needs to remember that he came on here pretending his “Dearly Beloved Dog” had passed away. Got alot of sympathy. Turns out that he was on Twitter telling his mates he let the poor bastard out of the car in the middle of Melbourne without a leash. It had no chance. Squish.

    What a moron, but we knew that.

  13. cohenite

    Even Trumps legal team ended up admitting it.

    I think fucking felix is the most insidious of the trolls; he lies like the rest of them but he pads out his lies. This is the last time I’ll address his lies, in future I’ll just insult.

    The inability of the GoP scrutineers to observe in PA is a constitutional defect claim brought under the equal protection principle. Brann dismissed this claim because he asserted Trump did not prove that the demorat scrutineers were also prevented from observing. Bratt did not dispute the GoP were prevented from observing but since he concluded there was no evidence presented that the demorats were also not prevented from observing no conclusion about a violation of the equal protection principle could be made.

    That is classic judicial sophistry, bullshit of the highest order. Bratt is saying, sure you suffered a violation but you can’t claim prejudice because you didn’t prove the other bastards were also not similarly penalised.

    SCOTUS will sort this out quick smart and those 680000 votes joe got will disappear.

    Now, just to repeat fucking felix: you’re a nasty troll fit only for insulting.

  14. Armadillo

    At some point it just gets sad, though.

    Durham.

  15. Armadillo

    SCOTUS will sort this out quick smart and those 680000 votes joe got will disappear.

    Exactly. It’s over for them.

    There are a lot of terrified leftards at the moment. Dickheads drawn further into the trap.

  16. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Now, just to repeat fucking felix: you’re a nasty troll fit only for insulting.

    The gruel eater sounds like that bend over boyfriend that was smote

  17. Helen

    cohers, you dont have to stoop to this

    I think fucking felix

  18. kaysee

    I came across this story while checking through WIP.
    This was reported in August, this year.

    Jennifer Hudson Sings at DNC, But Trump Took in Her Family Following Mother and Brother’s 2008 Murder

    According to E! Online, Hudson had checked into the Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago the day her mother Darnell Donerson, and brother Jason Hudson were fatally shot in Donerson’s home. The singer’s nephew Julian King was also reported missing.

    Trump had reacted to the tragic news of Hudson’s family by offering up a hotel suite for Hudson and her family to stay in free while they mourned. “Hudson and some of her family members have been staying at the Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago, and Trump has been picking up the tab,” reported Today in 2008.

    “She’s a great girl, and we’re protecting them well,” Trump told People. “They are very safe.”

    Jennifer Hudson reportedly “rarely left” the hotel. “She is still in shock,” a source told E! “She hasn’t gone out much at all and has a lot of security around her.”

    No good deed, however, appears to go unpunished. On Wednesday night, Hudson closed out the third day of the DNC by singing her own rendition of Sam Cooke’s 1964 single “A Change Is Gonna Come” at the Chicago Cultural Central.

  19. Armadillo

    Bluster and bullshit in politics is “par for the course”. But it only gets you so far.

    What matters is facts. Financial facts. Follow the money.

  20. Armadillo

    They have been attacking Trump for years over his “finances”. They found zip (otherwise you would have heard about it).

    The boot is now on the other foot. The pieces of the puzzle are about to come together.

    Follow the money.

  21. Armadillo

    Unexplained wealth. Watch that space.

  22. cohenite

    cohers, you dont have to stoop to this

    I think fucking felix

    I owe it to him Helen.

  23. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    good to see OAN is actually doing, you know, journalism. As apposed to propaganda of CNN, ABC, NSBC, twitter, facebook et al.

  24. Armadillo

    Cats need to stop being pussies.

    I watched that “Laura Ingham – The Angle”. Very annoying.

    She’s got no idea.

  25. FelixKruell

    Cohenite:

    The inability of the GoP scrutineers to observe in PA is a constitutional defect claim brought under the equal protection principle. Brann dismissed this claim because he asserted Trump did not prove that the demorat scrutineers were also prevented from observing. Bratt did not dispute the GoP were prevented from observing but since he concluded there was no evidence presented that the demorats were also not prevented from observing no conclusion about a violation of the equal protection principle could be made.

    The Brann case wasn’t about election observers. It was about counties allowing voters to cure ballots. See here:

    Instead, the case was resolved on a single point: Whether Boockvar had acted lawfully when she issued guidance suggesting counties alert voters whose mail ballots were in danger of being disqualified due to errors like missing signatures or secrecy envelopes.

    How embarrassing for you, after throwing around all those insults. Turns out you know less about this case than even Rudy did.

  26. Colonel Crispin Berka

    >> count votes in secret with the windows covered up.
    >> no evidence of scrutineers being absent from the count.

    The reason given for covering the windows was still ridiculous, but was supposedly unrelated to the scrutineering of the counting by the Republican poll watchers who were already inside.
    Perhaps the reason was to minimise how many people could witness the shenanigans going on inside even in spite of the presence of poll watchers who were few and far between:

    “When I asked what the possible justification was to counting ballots from unknown, unverified ‘persons,’ I was told by election supervisors that the Wayne County Clerk’s Office had “checked them out.
    “I challenged not one ballet, but the entire process as the names were not in the Poll Books or Supplemental Sheets and because the DOB’s were all wrong, all being marked as 01-01-1900.”

    Nick Sinishtaj, a Republican challenger at the center said:
    “They’re escorting us out like bouncers for a nightclub. When you walk in, they ask what party you’re affiliated with and as soon as you say GOP, they say, ‘Both are at capacity.’ Well, if that was the case, why did you ask what my party was in the first place?”

    The basis for saying how many Republicans were inside is not the observed fact at any time but inaccurate records kept of number of entries minus number of exits.

    Of course with the number of witnesses to election fraud being so widespread across the battleground states it would be strange if there were not any fraud going in the Detroit TCF.

  27. FelixKruell

    Armadillo:

    They have been attacking Trump for years over his “finances”. They found zip (otherwise you would have heard about it).

    Those cases are still ongoing…Trump has been fighting them tooth and nail. Claiming immunity from prosecution. Almost like he has something to hide.

  28. FelixKruell

    Zippy and Helen:

    Neither of you twigged that Cohenite describes the Pennsylvania case wrong. Way wrong.

    Maybe throw around less insults, and pay more attention? Or just keep mindless barracking for your team. That works too I guess.

  29. areff

    Dominion mystery man Eric Coomer’s electro-voting patents:

    https://patents.justia.com/inventor/eric-coomer

  30. Armadillo

    Shit is about to happen. And it’s real.

    The “Great Awakening” is about both finance and politics. The doors are about to be opened.

    Everyone is going to see what grubs these people are. How you are manipulated, and how THEY profit.

    It’s an absolute swamp.

  31. Rex Anger

    Maybe throw around less insults, and pay more attention? Or just keep mindless barracking for your team. That works too I guess.

    What is sauce for the Gander is sauce for the [leftwit] Goose, Flatus…

    (PS: 7-0!)

  32. Armadillo

    Those cases are still ongoing…Trump has been fighting them tooth and nail. Claiming immunity from prosecution. Almost like he has something to hide.

    List them.

  33. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Oh god, Arma has caught the Q syndrome.
    He’s probably been closer than 1499mm to Tailgunner for more than 4:59 seconds after 9:59:59pm.
    We’re just going to have to shut down the entire blog now.
    We’re all in this together.

  34. FelixKruell

    Armadillo:

    You…don’t know about them? Really? The case that went all the way to SCOTUS. The Cyrus Vance case? The Congressional case?

  35. Armadillo

    We’re all in this together.

    Where we go one, we go all.

    Get it right.

  36. JC

    FelixKruell
    #3667872, posted on November 22, 2020 at 9:14 pm
    Armadillo:

    They have been attacking Trump for years over his “finances”. They found zip (otherwise you would have heard about it).

    Those cases are still ongoing…Trump has been fighting them tooth and nail. Claiming immunity from prosecution. Almost like he has something to hide.

    ‘Sactly. Just like 7/0 doesn’t mean he’s innocent.

    Interesting how left wing scumbags like Ringshot get excited about fello how Left wing douchebags chasing people they don’t like for crimes that haven’t been reported or known.

  37. egg_

    M0nty stood on the burning deck
    Having a fiddle:
    “Ha ha, that silly Trump
    He’s been diddled!”

  38. Dot

    So Trump is a big loser and financial failure who also owes a lot of tax money.

    Righto cocksuckers, square that circle, please don’t use your mouths.

  39. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    “bed over boyfriend” Eat your Gruel, Freelicks

  40. cohenite

    How embarrassing for you, after throwing around all those insults. Turns out you know less about this case than even Rudy did.

    You’re a liar fucking felix, a dirty little liar. I know I’ve said it already but it’s worth repeating. For people interested: page 34 of the Judgment:

    None of these allegations (or the others in this section) claim that the Trump Campaign’s watchers were treated differently than the Biden campaign’s watchers. Simply alleging that poll watchers did not have access or were denied access to some areas does not plausibly plead unequal treatment. Without actually alleging that one group was treated differently than another, Plaintiffs’ first argument falls flat.

    As I said and as fucking felix lies about, the judge dismissed the equal protection complaint because he claimed Trump did not prove joe’s scrutineers were treated differently, not that Trump’s scrutineers were not prevented from observing, which of course they were. This, as I said is sophistry and legally wrong because the equal protection principle is based on equal rights not the lack of equal rights. This judge is a hack activist.

    And fucking felix is a fucking, conniving liar, trying to convince others he is right and I am wrong. He is a nasty little piece of shit.

  41. Armadillo

    The Cyrus Vance case? The Congressional case?

    You forgot to mention the impeachment case. Stop being a dick.

  42. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Is FreeLicks, Juan who shares out his wife?

  43. mh

    Million Maga March
    @MilionMagaMarch
    🚨 BREAKING 🚨

    DRONE FOOTAGE CAPTURES MOMENT TRUMP SUPPORTERS WERE INTENTIONALLY HIT BY A VEHICLE DURING A PROTEST AGAINST ELECTION FRAUD 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

    SUPPORTERS OF PRESIDENT DONALD J TRUMP ARE BEING TARGETED IN VIOLENT ATTACKS FOR STANDING UP FOR DEMOCRACY #STOPTHESTEAL #TRUMP2020

    https://twitter.com/MilionMagaMarch/status/1330380599849328640?s=20

  44. JC

    You…don’t know about them? Really? The case that went all the way to SCOTUS. The Cyrus Vance case? The Congressional case?

    I’m sure if you chase someone long enough, you’ll find a crime. It’s going to be fun seeing the kiddie hair sniffer and his drug addict son listening to senate hearings on influence peddling and possibly being in the hock to the PRC. We’ll see.

  45. FelixKruell

    JC:

    Interesting how left wing scumbags like Ringshot get excited about fello how Left wing douchebags chasing people they don’t like for crimes that haven’t been reported or known.

    Haven’t been reported or known? They went to SCOTUS. The media has been reporting on them for years.

    You just have to pay attention. I’m beginning to see a pattern here…

  46. cohenite

    I’m beginning to see a pattern here…

    The pattern is you are a lying, conniving prick.

  47. Boambee John

    The pattern is you are a lying, conniving prick.

    Hey, nobody’s perfect!

  48. JC

    Haven’t been reported or known? They went to SCOTUS. The media has been reporting on them for years.

    No one’s denying there are convoluted claims against him by leftwing douchebags, you dishonest dickhead? See Ringshot, this is why you’ve become the site’s punching bag.

  49. Armadillo

    I don’t think I’ve seen the left as shit scared as they are at the moment.

    It can all “work its way” through the lower courts. Getting “thrown out” is a bonus. The quicker this gets to SCOTUS the better as far as Trump is concerned.

    When you look at it either way, the Democrats are pretty much fucked.

    The courts have to rule for Trump, or they can let SCOTUS rule in Trumps favour. Which they will.

    Trump is still the President, and he will remain to be so.

    Sportsbet fucked up big time when they paid out on the “Biden Bet”. Or did they? It’s all very “suss” as far as I’m concerned.

    Follow the money.

  50. mh

    The show must go on when it’s the Democrat propaganda unit

    RedState
    @RedState
    ·
    Nov 21
    Entertainment Industry now Deemed “Essential” and Exempt from Gavin Newsom’s Curfew

  51. Here’s a question for all the brainiacs out there:
    What would a comparison of mailing lists for power suppliers, credit card billers, service providers, etc, etc, show – especially if they got their bills via mail and not email?

  52. JC

    The pattern is you are a lying, conniving prick.

    Look at what the piece of human garbage just did.

    He makes reference to all these legal claims against Trump.
    Me: I remark these appear to be nonsense cases and it’s a bunch of leftwing zealots trying very hard to pin stuff on him.

    Him: This must mean I haven’t followed the cases.

  53. FelixKruell

    Cohenite:

    You’re confusing the claim (the subject of the case) with the motion to dismiss (the latter requires the court to assume all faulty claims are fixed)

    The claim, from p11:

    Plaintiffs’ only remaining claim alleges a violation of equal protection. This claim, like Frankenstein’s Monster, has been haphazardly stitched together from two distinct theories in an attempt to avoid controlling precedent. The general thrust of this claim is that it is unconstitutional for Pennsylvania to give states discretion to adopt a notice-and-cure policy. Invoking Bush v. Gore, Plaintiffs assert that such local control is unconstitutional because it creates an arbitrary system where some persons are allowed to cure procedurally defective mail-in ballots while others are not.

    And the motion to dismiss section, noting that Trump claims don’t even argue the equal protection point they raised on defence of the motion to dismiss:

    Count I of the FAC makes no mention of disparity in treatment of observers based on which campaign they represented.

  54. FelixKruell

    JC:

    Me: I remark these appear to be nonsense cases and it’s a bunch of leftwing zealots trying very hard to pin stuff on him.

    Him: This must mean I haven’t followed the cases.

    Except you claimed these cases were about crimes ‘not known or reported’. So I thought I’d help educate you. Again.

  55. FelixKruell

    Armadillo:

    I don’t think I’ve seen the left as shit scared as they are at the moment.

    The left have moved on. They’re planning the transition. Outside this and similar blogs, the election was over weeks ago.

    Every Trump claim has been easily debunked, and thrown out of court more than a dozen times. States are starting to certify the results. SCOTUS won’t touch the dumpster fire that is a Rudy legal case. Rudy couldn’t even get his claims straight. On a key case.

    Face it, Trump has become a laughing stock, the lamest of lame ducks, hiding on his golf course. Avoiding the media.

  56. Dot

    Every Trump claim has been easily debunked,

    Debunk all of the dead voters in MI right here right now you goddamned fruit loop.

  57. JC

    ringshot

    It’s petty clear that I said your side is chasing Trump first because they don’t like him and creating legal claims as they go along. The Manhattan DA is a classic example.

    In any event , it will be fun watching Bunter and the hair sniffer negotiate serious charges of influence peddling . I’m sure we can apply your Pell principle . Guilty until proven innocent.

  58. Dot

    Imagine paying for Joe Biden’s influence.

    Jesus Christ man.

  59. JC

    The left have moved on. They’re planning the transition. Outside this and similar blogs, the election was over weeks ago.

    To this. Jeez Louise it’s going to be fun.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AvgOYmKCm2c

  60. JC

    Imagine paying for Joe Biden’s influence.

    Jesus Christ man.

    Come on man.

  61. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    It’s petty clear that I said your side is chasing Trump first because they don’t like him and creating legal claims as they go along. The Manhattan DA is a classic example.

    It’s not just that they don’t like him, or that they want to inflict globalism and socialism and one world government on us, it’s that Trump threatened to throw these corruptocrats in jail, so they are actually fighting for their lives. Due to the corrupt DOJ & FBI not one has been prosecuted for the corruption and abuse of power under obummer…. yet.

  62. mh:

    And then there are mUnty’s mates

    I love the girly squeal as soyboy goes down under the 300kg of copper.

  63. Albatross

    1735099
    #3667715, posted on November 22, 2020 at 6:03 pm
    Listen to the judge during the first two minutes of this clip

    No.

  64. Albatross

    FelixKruell
    #3667929, posted on November 22, 2020 at 10:06 pm

    You argue like a leftie. You’re dumb as pigshit and boring to boot.

  65. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Trump @ $24 betfair

  66. Colonel Crispin Berka

    What would a comparison of mailing lists for power suppliers, credit card billers, service providers, etc, etc, show – especially if they got their bills via mail and not email?

    Uh, if there’s a paycheque in it, I’ll believe anything you say.
     
     
    But seriously, I don’t understand the question, it isn’t specific enough about what you want to know.
    Is the “mailing lists for power suppliers” or a list of customers of one power supplier, or every customer of every supplier?
    What is a list item, the name or the address?
    What does compare mean? Do you want to find one person/address which is on all of the lists, or do you want to find one address which uses electricity but is not a customer in any of the other lists?

  67. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Sportsbet fucked up big time when they paid out on the “Biden Bet”. Or did they? It’s all very “suss” as far as I’m concerned.

    That was seriously bizarre. Maybe they have an inside line in the DNC or is it just hubris.

  68. Albatross

    Ringshot, Conveyancer-in-Chief, now holding forth on matters of law. Fuck me dead.

  69. Armadillo

    I don’t think the betting market was ever right (for many reasons). The polling was absolutely wrong. That’s been proven beyond doubt.

    After many years bookmaking, you just instinctively know this stuff. Its in your gut. Where the hell is this money coming from for a donkey? And Biden was a donkey. Billions of dollars to match punters in countries that can’t even vote in the US election? It’s absolutely suspect on many levels. Red lights and sirens going off in your mind.

    Now it emerges that Dominion is a player in all of this.

    Three strikes and your out. Polling. Betting markets. Race rigging.

    Follow the money.

  70. Albatross

    FelixKruell
    #3667890, posted on November 22, 2020 at 9:29 pm
    Armadillo:

    You…don’t know about them? Really? The case that went all the way to SCOTUS. The Cyrus Vance case? The Congressional case?

    What about the case of the dumbshit, catamite blog-poster? No wait. We solved that one. It’s you. I note further you’ve not yet been proved innocent of the charge of sexual congress with a barn full of animals.

  71. Howard Hill

    HERE IS THE EVIDENCE
    https://hereistheevidence.com/

    Nothing to see here, no fraud at all. Just Trump being a sore loser.

  72. Armadillo:

    There are a lot of terrified leftards at the moment. Dickheads drawn further into the trap.

    It would be interesting to have a look at the passenger lists of people going to countries with no extradition treaty with the US, and also seeing their bank accounts with the Swiss…

  73. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    You argue like a leftie. You’re dumb as pigshit and boring to boot.

    Is he really Juan who likes to watch real men do his wife?

  74. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I don’t think the betting market was ever right (for many reasons). The polling was absolutely wrong. That’s been proven beyond doubt.

    It’s pretty clear the people who rigged it, also bet big on the outcome once bidet’s odds blew out, knowing they were about to stack the vote. Looking at who put big money at that stage will show you which of the bastards was funding this. Not hard to guess.

  75. Some History

    Is he really Juan who likes to watch real men do his wife?

    He sounds like Juan tan amera.

  76. Tel

    None of these allegations (or the others in this section) claim that the Trump Campaign’s watchers were treated differently than the Biden campaign’s watchers. Simply alleging that poll watchers did not have access or were denied access to some areas does not plausibly plead unequal treatment. Without actually alleging that one group was treated differently than another, Plaintiffs’ first argument falls flat.

    Well it seems bloody obvious that Democrat leaning observers were given far more access than Republican leaning observers … and many witnesses have reported that, as well as videos taken at the time. Is it possible that Rudy failed to correctly put that case together to make that clear to the judge? Maybe … I haven’t read the whole case, but it does appear that the judge is being deliberately obtuse.

    It can easily be settled by simply checking those votes that were “cured” on the day, because each curing requires a signoff from BOTH of the observers (one from each party). If signoffs are there for Dem but not there for Repubs then that proves it. The evidence is right there in the boxes of “cured” ballots … if a damaged ballot is duplicated in order to make it scan correctly then it must be signed by TWO people, one from each of the major parties. If those scrutineers from the Republicans were kicked out then we will discover that none of them signed off on the duplicate ballots.

  77. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Winston,
    I forgot to address you by name when I asked a question above ↑.

  78. Armadillo

    I’ll put this in a racing analogy.

    Someone has a donkey they want to put in a “two horse race”. It’s a donkey, so you keep it in the stables (basement) so no one actually knows it’s a donkey. You then get all the “tipsters” (media) to tell you it isn’t a donkey, it’s a champion. It will win. They tell you the horse it’s racing against is actually an elephant with one leg. A very evil elephant.

    The tipsters (pollsters) all say that the donkey will win. The bookmakers are flooded with money (the book never lies), Everyone is in agreement. Declare the donkey the winner.

    It’s now time for “stewards” to step up. And they will.

  79. Armadillo

    Tel, cases getting kicked out in lower courts is a good thing.

    Take it direct to SCOTUS.

    Trump is still the President, and he will continue to be so.

  80. mh

    David Furness
    @DavidFurnessGB
    In 2016, at the Mayor of #London #election, something odd happened. Counting of votes was stopped because of a ‘computer glitch’. When the counting was resumed, the far-left candidate (Sadiq Khan) had an unassailable lead.

  81. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Well it seems bloody obvious that Democrat leaning observers were given far more access than Republican leaning observers … and many witnesses have reported that, as well as videos taken at the time. Is it possible that Rudy failed to correctly put that case together to make that clear to the judge? Maybe … I haven’t read the whole case, but it does appear that the judge is being deliberately obtuse.

    The judge, being a partisan hack, cleverly found a flimsy excuse to dismiss the case, he pretty much had nothing else to clutch at. However it’s a little too clever ie pile of horse shit, which scotus won’t buy, or anybody else with half a brain.

  82. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Felix is not Juan.

    felix post a pic of your wife

  83. Some History

    “Georgia Is the First State I’m Going to Blow Up and Mr. Kemp and the Secretary of State Need to Go With It!” — Sidney Powell Releases the Kraken! (VIDEO)

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/georgia-first-state-going-blow-mr-kemp-secretary-state-need-go-sidney-powell-releases-kraken-video/

    Texas County Goes Blue for the First Time Since 1964 After Hiring former Executive with Smartmatic as Elections Administrator

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/texas-county-goes-blue-first-time-since-1964-hiring-former-executive-smartmatic-elections-administrator/

  84. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    In 2016, at the Mayor of #London #election, something odd happened. Counting of votes was stopped because of a ‘computer glitch’. When the counting was resumed, the far-left candidate (Sadiq Khan) had an unassailable lead.

    OMG I’m having an intense deja vu.

  85. cohenite

    Fucking felix vomits:

    The claim, from p11:

    Plaintiffs’ only remaining claim alleges a violation of equal protection. This claim, like Frankenstein’s Monster, has been haphazardly stitched together from two distinct theories in an attempt to avoid controlling precedent. The general thrust of this claim is that it is unconstitutional for Pennsylvania to give states discretion to adopt a notice-and-cure policy. Invoking Bush v. Gore, Plaintiffs assert that such local control is unconstitutional because it creates an arbitrary system where some persons are allowed to cure procedurally defective mail-in ballots while others are not.

    You’re so stupid but I’m beginning to wonder about Bratt. That is a perfect summation of the issue. This judge is either very stupid or very subversive in a Trump sort of way.

    And the motion to dismiss section, noting that Trump claims don’t even argue the equal protection point they raised on defence of the motion to dismiss:

    Count I of the FAC makes no mention of disparity in treatment of observers based on which campaign they represented.

    Again you’re so stupid. Equal protection is not a lack of rights principle. Since observer right is a constitutional right you don’t have to prove others did not have it, only that you didn’t.

    Anyway, you’re a fucking liar. FOAD.

  86. Armadillo

    Maybe they have an inside line in the DNC or is it just hubris.

    Hubris. Some idiot unilaterally went the “first past the post” mantra.

    They will probably get moved sideways, or pop up in a Goverment job building infrastructure.

  87. Armadillo

    Since observer right is a constitutional right you don’t have to prove others did not have it, only that you didn’t.

    Important.

  88. Armadillo

    Anyway, you’re a fucking liar. FOAD.

    Accurate.

  89. So the line you lot are now going with is that it’s good that all these flimsy cases were thrown out of lower courts for lack of evidence, standing, cogent argument or coherent legal reasoning… because that means you can send it to SCOTUS where those things don’t matter, only who appointed you.

    The only thing you have left is subverting democracy.

  90. Colonel Crispin Berka

    In Wayne county Michigan, 135 voting precincts have 0 registered voters, leaving 173k untraceable votes that were nonetheless reported from those precincts.
    Biden’s reported lead in Wayne county was +332k.
    Not enough ghost ballots to overturn Wayne county, but that’s just one source of mismatch without accounting for other ways the votes could be rigged, and that lead is all based on numbers from what can now be accurately described as a fraud factory. Makes you wonder what else they will find if they look, or what may already be in the next court case.

  91. Some History

    m0nty
    #3667985, posted on November 22, 2020 at 11:20 pm
    So the line you lot are now going with is that it’s good that all these flimsy cases were thrown out of lower courts for lack of evidence, standing, cogent argument or coherent legal reasoning… because that means you can send it to SCOTUS where those things don’t matter, only who appointed you.

    The only thing you have left is subverting democracy.

    Montifa, just trying to minimize overtime… obviously. You can understand that.

  92. Some History

    Not enough ghost ballots to overturn Wayne county…

    But it’s enough to flip the State.

  93. Tel

    Since observer right is a constitutional right you don’t have to prove others did not have it, only that you didn’t.

    I remember reading that this was guaranteed under state law, not federal … although it is the standard thing for ballot counting to be observed by scrutineers from various places … even the UN is big on this type of thing. I’m not 100% sure on this one, might be both state and federal, but the 14th Amendment only insists on equal rights, without going into detail about what those rights are exactly. It certainly does not itemize the correct way to run an election.

  94. Armadillo

    The only thing you have left is subverting democracy.

    Defending Democracy is more accurate, mOnts.

    Your side should be the ones demanding a full recount and audit. Easy to do.

  95. mh

    London Mayoral count resorted to spreadsheets

    … The result of last month’s London Mayoral election on 5 May was delayed by several hours after staff had to manually query a bug-stricken database.
    Sadiq Khan was elected, but the result was not declared until the Saturday.
    One of the firms behind the software, DRS, revealed new details of the mishap at the London Assembly on Thursday.
    Staff had to collate discrepancies in a spreadsheet, rather than automatically, when tallying final results, said chief executive Steve Gowers.
    It was during the late afternoon the day after the election that “discrepancies” in different sets of results were noticed.
    The system was provided by IntElect, a joint project between DRS Data Services and ERS Group.
    A resulting investigation found that the underlying data, the actual numbers of votes in the database, was correct – but the counting software was not reporting it accurately…

    Electoral law expert Prof Bob Watt at Buckingham University said he was concerned about the use of electronic counting systems.
    “The bigger issue is of course just how stable these machines are and that’s something that I have a great deal of worry about and have had for some time,” he told the BBC.
    Electronic voting machines are not currently used by UK voters when casting ballots, but counting software is used in the London Mayoral and Assembly elections…

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36558446

  96. Armadillo

    mOnts, the easiest way for Biden to gain legitimacy is to order a full recount and audit.

    Why isn’t he?

  97. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    A resulting investigation found that the underlying data, the actual numbers of votes in the database, was correct – but the counting software was not reporting it accurately…

    yeah its so fucking difficult to add up some numbers with a computer. NOT! what a load of bullshit

  98. Colonel Crispin Berka

    But it’s enough to flip the State.

    ◕_◕
    Joe’s lead in Michigan shown on WaPo is 155k.
    😵
    By crikey, that’s right.
    😎

  99. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Trump $26 @ betfair

  100. egg_

    From Bama to Trump on SBS
    (Divisive) “Trump only talking to his base.”
    Funny how it’s grown.

    Bama was initially known as a fake Negro by blacks, including Whoopi Goldberg.

  101. Armadillo

    but the counting software was not reporting it accurately

    There it is.

  102. mh

    Jenna Ellis
    @JennaEllisEsq
    ·
    8h
    I really appreciate all the leftist abortion on demand socialists who are so offended tonight on behalf of my Christian values that they routinely mock.

    May I recommend you read the Bible, particularly the book of Romans.

    The left are very sick people.
    Just look at monty.

  103. mh

    Enrique Alejandro
    @EnriqueAleTV
    ·
    16h
    #RogerStone Reveals the Mass Manipulator of the 2020 Vote: It’s
    @BillGates

    https://twitter.com/EnriqueAleTV/status/1330255407630200835?s=20

  104. Armadillo

    The most technologically advanced nation in the world can’t figure out how to make the number of votes cast equal the number of votes recorded.

    I’m starting to think that Anne is right about fraudulent so called “Moon Landing”.

  105. dover_beach

    The only people ‘subverting democracy’ are those that fabricate votes from the dead, vote in states they don’t reside in, use the votes of inactive voters, and so on.

  106. Armadillo

    A country race track has more “checks and balances” than the US Election.

  107. Colonel Crispin Berka

    ┌─┐
    ┴─┴
    ಠ_ರೃ

    I say Abraham, that’s the last time I vote for the Necrocrats.
    They couldn’t organise a Biden win in a graveyard.

  108. Armadillo

    The US really needs to sort out its voting system.

  109. mh

    On this anniversary, it’s worth remembering America is never far from being run by gangsters.
    Now we have globalist gangsters.

  110. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    45m
    Just arrived at Virtual G20. Was here yesterday also (early), but some of the Fake News Media failed to report it accurately – as usual. My speech is available (they said I didn’t make a speech).

  111. Armadillo

    The world needs to sort out their voting systems.

    It comes down to an understanding that an individual vote is actually worth something.

    It’s incredibly hard to rort a banking system, but incredibly easy to rort a political system. Go figure.

  112. Mark A

    Armadillo
    #3668031, posted on November 23, 2020 at 1:01 am

    The world needs to sort out their voting systems.

    It comes down to an understanding that an individual vote is actually worth something.

    It’s incredibly hard to rort a banking system, but incredibly easy to rort a political system. Go figure.

    When one side resists ID based voting you know they are up to potential rorting.

  113. stackja

    There are 50 separate state elections in the USA. Many USA states have had suspect voting for years. Nixon probably won the 1960 election. LBJ won in Dallas 1963. Dems tried to get Trump out with hoaxes, and failed, after 2016 so planned the steal for 2020. If SCOTUS allow the steal, Biden policies might end the Dems. Time will tell.

  114. stackja

    A NSW state election in one particular electorate was called after a fire in the electoral office destroyed the ballots before a recount.

  115. stackja

    Georgia electoral office had a water main “burst” that delayed the vote count. Later no record of the incident. Disruption of the count advantaged Biden.

  116. Bar Beach Swimmer

    When one side resists ID based voting you know they are up to potential rorting.

    And neither side here wants voter ID. The left argues it will disenfranchise the homeless – despite everyone these days having some form of ID – mobile phone, anyone? – and the right isn’t at all interested in making a case. (Gee, as far as the right is concerned, that could be a statement about nearly every aspect of good policy).

  117. Bar Beach Swimmer

    A country race track has more “checks and balances” than the US Election.

    Ever tried to collect a package at the post office, have your mail held or perhaps have it redirected? Australia Post acceptable forms of identification puts our voting system to shame.

  118. Terry

    @1735099
    #3668062, posted on November 23, 2020 at 6:16 am
    ’58 days (57 in Australia)’

    Hahahaha – calls itself numbers and can count about as well as a Dominion vote-rigger.

    The time between “now” and the inauguration of US President on 21 Jan 2021 is exactly the same, no matter which time zone you are in. Of course, the date on which that occurs will be different in Australia.

    Maybe try it with fractions? You could have Creepy Joe “Elect” starting his term on 1 Jan 1900. What a guy.

  119. When one side resists ID based voting you know they are up to potential rorting.

    Perhaps.
    Remind me which side resisted Bob Hawke’s Australia card legislation in 1987, and John Stone’s activities at the time.

  120. Of course, the date on which that occurs will be different in Australia

    A fact usually noticed when you fly east to the Pacific coast of the USA.
    You would be entirely confused by it all.

  121. Albatross

    1735099
    #3668062, posted on November 23, 2020 at 6:16 am
    58 days (57 in Australia) and awakie until Dettol Donny vacates the White House…

    Remember then you real this imbecile’s sickening, juvenile posts, that this is a man in his twilight years. Jesus wept.

  122. duncanm

    1735099
    #3668070, posted on November 23, 2020 at 6:46 am

    Perhaps.
    Remind me which side resisted Bob Hawke’s Australia card legislation in 1987, and John Stone’s activities at the time.

    The greens?.

    Maybe the last time they said anything sensible

  123. Innerwestie

    Colonel and any others, Crowder is wrong. His analysis does not explain the 80 mismstched precincts.
    Those 134 Detroit Precincts with 173000 votes and zero Registered voters are where the AV ballots were counted from the 480 odd Precincts in Detroit.
    The data he used showed each of the 480 locations had a 10-20% in person turnout on Nov 3. and a zero AV count.
    And it showed tallies for the rest of Wayne County precincts with both in person and AV’s counted on Nov 3.
    Finally it shows the 134 AV CB tallies where the absentee votes from the 480 Detroit precincts were counted. (Hence the zero on the day tallies in these precincts).
    Crowder is being mischievous, or dumb, or was in too much of a hurry to work it out.
    Allowing mail-in votes to be counted away from the precinct where the details of of the Reg. voter are opens the door to fraud but is not proof of fraud and does not explain the mismatched precinct tallies.
    For the record I think this election was a steal through vote harvesting etc etc and computer shenanigans but Crowders ‘discovery’ aint what he thinks it is.

  124. The greens?.

    Maybe the last time they said anything sensible.

    The Australian Greens didn’t exist in 1987.
    The party was formed in 1992.
    But this is Catallaxy, where ignorance prevails.

  125. Ha! I was just on the phone to Betfair putting another hundred on the God-Emperor and I asked the Betfair lass if she had money on Trump.
    She replied that everyone is betting on Trump.
    As others have asked, where’s the Biden money coming from?

  126. duncanm

    1735099
    #3668094, posted on November 23, 2020 at 7:29 am

    The greens?.

    Maybe the last time they said anything sensible.

    The Australian Greens didn’t exist in 1987.
    The party was formed in 1992.
    But this is Catallaxy, where ignorance prevails.

    mea culpa – but at least they seem to have some sense in 2004 to block the same idea.

    As for identification for votes in the US, they need to register to vote. So presumably they have that registration documentation which can be used for identification.

  127. Albatross

    In fact the Australian Democrats led opposition to the Australia Card, which you might have noted Bob if you had anything to add beyond a smart-alec Wikipedia search.

  128. duncanm

    Cardimona
    #3668096, posted on November 23, 2020 at 7:34 am

    Ha! I was just on the phone to Betfair putting another hundred on the God-Emperor and I asked the Betfair lass if she had money on Trump.
    She replied that everyone is betting on Trump.
    As others have asked, where’s the Biden money coming from?

    Ok, now I know that betfair odds chart is bullshit. I definitely saw trump at over $30 last night, and he was at $30 this morning. Now down, but the graph shows nothing over $30.

    calling gunner!

  129. Tel

    It’s incredibly hard to rort a banking system, but incredibly easy to rort a political system. Go figure.

    Easy to rort a banking system from the position of central bank.

    A “pound sterling” used to be one pound weight of sterling silver … nowadays a pound note wouldn’t buy you a silver toothpick. Someone has managed to extract a lot of value in the meantime.

    Better than that … they have figured that if the tell people often enough how inflation is good for them, someone will believe it. I reckon they will start doing that with votes soon … telling people that a bit if extra vote printing is good “democracy”.

  130. 1735099

    So Albatross believes that the Democrats and the Greens are one and the same.
    He /she/it must be posting on Catallaxy…

  131. duncanm

    Albatross is clearly responding to your insinuation that the Australia Card was primarily resisted by the LNP.

  132. 1735099

    As for identification…

    This exists in Australia – in Queensland at least.
    For the last two state elections, my wife and I have been sent an ID card which is presented when you arrive at the polling station and your name is checked on the roll.
    I’m assuming they are sent to everybody on the electoral roll.

  133. calli

    where’s the Biden money coming from?

    Stop asking inconvenient questions, gweilo!

  134. calli

    No ID cards in NSW. Is the card sent out by the state government?

  135. 1735099

    Albatross is clearly responding to your insinuation that the Australia card was primarily resisted by the LNP.

    Because it was.
    That Coalition resistance was one of the reasons Hawke called a double dissolution election in 1987.

  136. 1735099

    Is the card sent out by the state government?

    It’s a cardboard press-out attached to a memo from the QEC.

  137. I definitely saw trump at over $30 last night, and he was at $30 this morning. Now down, but the graph shows nothing over $30.

    Very weird,Duncan!
    #2020

  138. Mater

    For the last two state elections, my wife and I have been sent an ID card which is presented when you arrive at the polling station and your name is checked on the roll.

    And

    It’s a cardboard press-out attached to a memo from the QEC.

    Ok. This story is changing a little.

    1735099
    #3496537, posted on June 26, 2020 at 5:12 pm
    I don’t know about you, but the AEC posted ID details to be presented when I voted both in the last state and federal elections.

    Was it for both the State AND Federal elections?
    Was it the QEC or the AEC?

    Asking for a friend.

  139. Albatross

    1735099
    #3668106, posted on November 23, 2020 at 7:45 am
    So Albatross believes that the Democrats and the Greens are one and the same.
    He /she/it must be posting on Catallaxy…

    Serious question: can you read?

  140. Boambee John

    Felicia Cruella

    Face it, Trump has become a laughing stock, the lamest of lame ducks, hiding on his golf course. Avoiding the media.

    Let me fix that for you.

    Face it, Biden has been a laughing stock all year, the lamest of lame ducks, hiding in his basement. Avoiding both election rallies and the media ever since the primaries.

  141. Albatross

    Hey look Bob, you imbecile, it’s your mate Mr. Brown noting that the Democrats led that opposition to the Australia Card:

    Senator BOB BROWN (Leader of the Australian Greens) (7:08 PM) […] Amongst the achievements of the Democrats beyond the World Heritage legislation are […] the opposition to the Australia Card, which they led

    https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;db=CHAMBER;id=chamber/hansards/2008-06-25/0190;query=Id:%22chamber/hansards/2008-06-25/0000%22

  142. They had a full recount in Georgia. Very little changed, certainly not the result.

    Stop sulking and stalling you lot, accept reality. Your boy lost bigly. Deal with it.

  143. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Old news, Politico reported last week:

    Even if Trump doesn’t concede, Biden will get the @POTUS Twitter account on Inauguration Day.

  144. Boambee John

    The only thing you have left is subverting democracy

    Not a hope there munty. The Cheatocrats have that completely wrapped up. To rephrase your statement, “The left is subverting democracy.”

  145. Very little changed, certainly not the result.

    Now they’re doing a full audit.
    Oh noes!!
    Signature matching is like kryptonite to the Demons!
    😎😎😎

  146. Monty has crossed the halfway point on the REEEEEEEEE scale this morning.
    Excellent.

  147. Boambee John

    Remind me which side resisted Bob Hawke’s Australia card legislation in 1987, and John Stone’s activities at the time.

    And yet, even without the Australia Card, it is possible for banks and the post office to identify actual specific individuals.

    The bin chicken tries yet another distraction squirrel! Or perhaps he keeps the family fortune (what little is left after paying $15 million in tax) in a rubbish bin, to which all of his mail is also delivered?

  148. Snoopy

    Comprehensive recounts in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona and Nevada would, if they don’t flip any original counts, prove the US voting system is credible. As a bonus Trump and Trumpism would be destroyied forever.

    It’s curious the Democrats are so against the idea. What do they have to lose?

  149. Boambee John

    As others have asked, where’s the Biden money coming from?

    Big tech?

    And Chai nerr.

  150. Gavin R Putland

    “This is outrageous conduct by any lawyer,” Mr Christie said of Ms Powell.

    “And notice, George, they won’t do it inside the courtroom. They allege fraud outside the courtroom, but when they go inside the courtroom, they don’t plead fraud and they don’t argue fraud.

    “Listen, I’ve been a supporter of the President’s. I voted for him twice. But elections have consequences, and we cannot continue to act as if something happened here that didn’t happen.

    “You have an obligation to present the evidence. The evidence has not been presented. And you must conclude that if you’re unwilling to come forward and present the evidence, it must mean the evidence doesn’t exist.

    “The country is what has to matter the most. As much as I’m a strong Republican and I love my party, it’s the country that has to come first.”

    https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/us-election-chris-christie-labels-donald-trumps-legal-effort-a-national-embarrassment/news-story/4ee1b9a80cdb5fb918c1482374e65ffc

  151. Boambee John

    duncanm

    As for identification for votes in the US, they need to register to vote.

    Not quite. Some states have automatic enrolment for anyone receiving a driver’s licence (and also issue licences to non-citizens and even illegal immigrants).

  152. 3 Year Delta :
    Can’t wait for the green light
    Teams on standby
    Q

  153. Trump and Trumpism were already destroyed. You just won’t accept it.

  154. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Amidst all the claims that Dominion had tried to steal the election, someone claiming to be a Dominion spokesperson has just done an interview to reassure everyone that this is physically impossible.
    https://twitter.com/GoJackFlynn/status/1330604345088421889
    He doesn’t even have any clear connection to Dominion, he’s from a GOP-affiliated public relations consultancy. Of all the people who could have stepped forward, why send this guy?
    That spokesperson’s name?
    Michael Steel.

    The deep state is just screwing with us now.

  155. “This is outrageous conduct by any lawyer,” Mr Christie said of Ms Powell.

    Deep State in full Panic! mode.
    Wonder what we’ll find out about this cuck slob?
    Dark to Light

  156. You lot are literally Death in Bill & Ted. “Best two out of three? How about four out of seven?”

  157. Gavin R Putland

    Amazing how many Republicans work for the Swamp and the Deep State, eh, Cats?

  158. Boambee John

    Was it the QEC or the AEC?

    If it is the AEC, I have been cheated during the last dozen or so federal elections.

  159. Gavin R Putland

    I would venture to suggest that it’s quite common for dead people to make political donations. They’re called bequests.

    A more likely explanation, however, is different people with similar names, as in the saga of dead people who allegedly voted.

  160. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #3668135, posted on November 23, 2020 at 8:22 am
    They had a full recount in Georgia. Very little changed, certainly not the result.

    Stop sulking and stalling you lot, accept reality. Your boy lost bigly. Deal with it.

    Stop relying on DNC talking points and the MSM.

    An audit (covering the validity of all votes as well as the total number) was requested. They did a simple re-count, without audit, and even then found thousands of Trump votes that had been “mislaid”.

  161. egg_

    They’re trolling hard today – with no US Lefty talking points, being Sunday night in the US.
    Sad.

    Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

  162. calli

    Wonder what we’ll find out about this cuck slob?

    Cruel and unusual punishment to beach chairs would be a start.

  163. egg_

    Amazing how many Republicans work for the Swamp and the Deep State

    Sir Humphrey Appleby wouldn’t be surprised in the least.

  164. calli

    Googlet, the Reeeeeeee! organ is operating on fully pulled stops.

    Stupendous!

  165. mh

    Newsmax currently interviewing Brendan Straka (via their website)

  166. Boambee John

    Gavin R Putland
    #3668164, posted on November 23, 2020 at 8:50 am
    Amazing how many Republicans work for the Swamp and the Deep State, eh, Cats?

    Yet another US elections “expert” who, like the fat fascist fool munty, has never heard of RINOs and Republican Never Trumpers! Where have these idiots and their ilk been hiding foe four years?

  167. egg_

    Wonder what we’ll find out about this cuck slob?

    Cruel and unusual punishment to beach chairs would be a start.

    It’s amazing the correlation between people who resemble Vogons and negativity, eh M0ntifa?

  168. stackja

    POSTED ON NOVEMBER 22, 2020 BY STEVEN HAYWARD IN 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, DEMOCRATS, DONALD TRUMP, ECONOMY
    THE LEFT’S CLASS WAR ON THE WORKING CLASS
    The left is all about class warfare, but you’d be mistaken if you think the class they want to make war on is the upper class. Quite the contrary: the left is the upper class now, and their longtime critique of “neoliberalism” as a mechanism to transfer wealth from the poor to the rich is ironically accurate, as that is exactly what the left intends to do.

    Two pieces of evidence to consider. First, note this piece from the Brookings Institution (the lead author Mark Muro is an acquaintance from my Washington days), about how the small minority of counties Joe Biden won represent 70 percent of the nation’s economic output, while the majority of counties Trump won only account for 30 percent of our economic output.

    “I think it is fair to say that in many ways the Democratic Party has become a party of the coastal elites, folks who have a lot of money, upper-middle-class people who are good people, who believe in social justice in many respects. But I think for many, many years the Democratic Party has not paid the kind of attention to working-class needs that they should’ve.”

    Bernie Sanders, in late October.

  169. mh

    Republican Congressman Elect

    Ronny Jackson
    @RonnyJacksonTX
    ·
    5m
    I support @realDonaldTrump because he fights for America every single day. Every patriot in this country should be rallying behind him and his efforts to #StopTheSteal.

  170. stackja

    POSTED ON NOVEMBER 22, 2020 BY JOHN HINDERAKER IN DEMOCRATS, LIBERALS, SOCIALISM
    FIGHTING WORDS, BY DAVID HOROWITZ
    Our friend David Horowitz wrote this essay, which he titled “Fighting Words.” It is a call for freedom-loving Americans to fight back against the totalitarian Left.

    The Democrats’ plan to steal the 2020 election was hatched many years ago when Democrats launched their first attacks on Voter I.D.s, and then every effort to secure the integrity of the electoral system. Those attacks metastasized into an all-out assault on Election Day itself with early- and late-voting grace periods, and a flood of 92 million mail-in ballots, hundreds of thousands of which were delivered in the middle of the night to be counted behind the backs of Republican observers after Election Day had passed.

    The result of these efforts is that Election Day no longer really exists as a day when the votes are cast and counted. This is a fact that offers generous opportunities for the election saboteurs to do their work. Those saboteurs’ opportunities were greatly enhanced this year with the installation in battle ground states of voting machines specifically designed to calculate how many votes were required to steal an election and then to switch ballots already cast and deliver them to the chosen party. Mail-in ballots were indispensable to the realization of this plan.

    This war will continue until patriotic Americans summon the courage to call Democrats the racists, liars, character assassins and aspiring totalitarians that they actually are.

  171. Garrett Haake @GarrettHaake
    The war inside the Trump campaign continues. Statement from Rudy Giuliani: “Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own. She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team. She is also not a lawyer for the President in his personal capacity.”

    Aaaaaahahahaha!

  172. Giuliani and Jenna Ellis just kicked Sidney Powell out of the Trump legal team. Rudy’s having calamari for dinner!

  173. cohenite

    egg_
    #3668143, posted on November 23, 2020 at 8:29 am

    Salty Cracker on Kyle Rittenhouse: outstanding.

    Kyle shot a convicted burglar, wife basher and pedo commie, all of whom had weapons illegally. The one who survived has not been charged for illegally possessing a gun but Kyle was for exercising his 2nd amendment rights. Kyle is a metaphor for what has to be done to fight the left.

  174. duncanm

    Ok. I’ve worked out the betfair weirdness.

    If you look at the odds graph on a PC/browser – the scaling / resolution of the chart is so shit that the peaks don’t show up.

    Looking at it on a mobile device shows odds up to ~ 40 in the last couple of days.

  175. cohenite

    You lot are literally Death in Bill & Ted.

    Piss taker in drenched form this morning. Piss taker wouldn’t make any movie except maybe the reboot of Charlie’s Angels.

  176. Gunner frantically refreshing 8kun for the explanation as to how Sidney Powell getting rekt fits in to #TheStorm™.

  177. https://twitter.com/prayingmedic/status/1330629360089329664?s=19
    A quick reminder of where the game is going for the Championship round.
    😃😎

  178. stackja

    cohenite
    #3668212, posted on November 23, 2020 at 9:40 am

    Yahoo Celebrity – ‘Silver Spoons’ star Ricky Schroder helped bail out Kenosha shooting suspect Kyle Rittenhouse, says attorney

  179. cohenite

    Giuliani and Jenna Ellis just kicked Sidney Powell out of the Trump legal team

    Where did you get that one from piss taker

  180. Yesterday, Sidney Powell: “It’s going to be Biblical!”
    Today, Rudy Giuliani: “Thou shalt not remain in the Trump legal team!”

  181. Arky

    Donut- punching, pud- pulling loser.

  182. Trump and Trumpism were already destroyed. You just won’t accept it.

    You’re probably correct in reference to Trump, Mony, but not Trumpism.
    It will linger like a bad smell, driven by the likes of Breitbart et al which make a profit from turning Americans on each other.

  183. Monty doesn’t realise that the Guiliani press release spells the word
    Checkmate.
    🤣🤣🤣

  184. Can you say the words “Special Prosecutor” Montel?
    🤣🤣🤣
    Nothing can stop what’s coming now!

  185. Check your meds please Gunner, you’re sounding rather frantic.

  186. Oh come on

    They had a full recount in Georgia

    m0nty, check your talking points memo. It’s “full HAND recount”.

  187. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Olivia Murphy @OliviaM63956079 · 19m

    I’m just telling you what I heard this morning on a podcast before this was announced. That Sidney was going to represent the American People in court and not the president. Take it for what it’s worth.

    Again, the non-partisan nature of the underlying problem seems to be escaping a lot of people.

  188. Sidney Powell representing the American people.
    Rudy Giuliani representing Donald Trump.
    Jenna Ellis representing the Trump/Pence campaign.
    Keep your eye in the ‘cloen car’s, monty!.
    Forget the Water

  189. Colonel Crispin Berka

    *snap* TG.

  190. Sidney Powell representing the American people.

    Haaaaaahahahahahahaha!

    Oh stop it, this is too funny!

  191. Oh come on

    Good. Was not thrilled with Sidney Powell’s line of attack being such a prominent part of the Trump team’s legal strategy. She might be on to something, sure, but going down that path isn’t likely to yield results any time soon. Better to focus resources on attempts to force audits in the disputed states and the federal court challenges.

  192. Oh come on

    You’re right – it isn’t a partisan issue, Berka. Or, at least, it shouldn’t be. There have long been problems associated with voting machines. In 2004, Diebold machines were the target and the Dems were unhappy about it. Today, it’s Dominion.

    Generally speaking, I think we can all agree it’s a bad look when senior employees of companies that manufacture voting machines are open partisans. That being said, why should these people not be free to express their political views?

    The solution is to go back to good old-fashioned paper ballots.

  193. mh

    Numbers and mUnty can’t wait for the neocon wars to start up again.

    Settle down you two boys. There’s a lot of water to pass under the bridge yet.

  194. Robber Baron

    Monty has convinced me that he is not very bright.

  195. duncanm

    If I understand correctly, Trump’s clock for challenging runs out soon, a general challenge from “the American People” has no such constraint.

  196. Mother Lode

    Numbers and mUnty can’t wait for the neocon wars to start up again.

    Remember too that anyone who said “Bugger it! Lets just take the gloves off and win!” was called a ‘chicken hawk’.

    I suppose the preferred mode of warfare is like that in Orwell’s book – no great victories, no great defeats, just a steady state of warfare without end. A steady stream of materiel, soldiers, research programs – except in this world the people who want this war do so because some part of the expenditure can be siphoned into their bank accounts.

  197. https://twitter.com/BrandonHalloway/status/1330260579777437700?s=19

    Huma Abedin retweeted this last night/this morning.
    Her account has been silent for over 2 years.
    A certain letter ‘person’ has said “Where’s Huma/Follow Huma” many,many times.
    Has she flipped?

  198. If I understand correctly, you can’t just challenge in court on behalf of The American People unless you are representing the government. Otherwise, you have to identify individual plaintiffs who have standing.

  199. Infidel Tiger

    Guiliani and Powell should have their legal licenses stripped.

    What an embarrassment.

  200. Armadillo

    It’s going to be biblical…

    https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/x22?selected=REP9577053209

    mOnts, get in here and apologise before it’s too late.

  201. mh

    Alex Jones: ”Learn Why Trump Knows He’s Already Won And Why Biden Is So Scared” – 11/22/20

  202. Dillo, if you seriously listen to that goldbug prepper rubbish, there is no hope for you.

  203. Boambee John

    The Cheatorats will linger like a bad smell, driven by the likes of Big Tech et al which make a profit from turning Americans on each other.

    Only took two small amendments to fix the bin chicken’s silly statement.

  204. Boambee John

    OCO

    The solution is to go back to good old-fashioned paper ballots.

    Counted by hand in front of witnesses from all parties with candidates in the election. Results entered on a simple spreadsheet, formulae open to all for checking at any random time.

  205. Maj

    Pollak: Trump, as Always, Is Fighting, as Promised

    President Donald Trump is doing exactly what he promised his supporters he would do by fighting for every possible legal way to win the election.

  206. The key paragraph in that story:

    “Sidney has made these claims, but she has not shown, to my knowledge, evidence to support them — not to the campaign and not to the White House. … I don’t know anyone who has seen the evidence,” one senior administration official told the Washington Examiner. “Where is that evidence? The more she goes out there, the more it overshadows the legitimate problems. … The problem with this stuff is that you got so over-the-top, and you overshadow the illegitimate improper things that were done.”

    So there was totally fraud you guys, the election was stolen fersure, but we don’t want none of that wacky conspiracy stuff that this Sidney person keeps rabbiting on about.

    As I said days ago, the only game left is getting SCOTUS to pretend that the equal protection clause justifies nullifying millions of votes just because they are mostly Democratic, and it would cause hurt and injury to Republicans for them to be outvoted. So the Trump strategy is still insane, but it’s not quite Powell-level insane.

  207. Maj

    Washington Examiner is full of RINOes. Washington Times is reliably conservative.

    ‘One kind of fraud’: Biden won thousands of illegal votes by noncitizens, study shows

    A new study estimates that presumptive President-elect Joseph R. Biden benefited from thousands of illegal votes by noncitizens, providing President Trump’s backers another potential argument for a fraud-tainted election.

    The study comes from the nonprofit research institute Just Facts, and its president, James D. Agresti, who looked at election returns from seven battleground states: Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

    He compared U.S. Census numbers on noncitizens (a total of 21.7 million) with each battleground state’s demographics and election results. He then applied previous election polling of noncitizens.

    The 2008-13 surveys show that a significant number of noncitizens register to vote and cast ballots, despite a federal law against it, and overwhelmingly vote for Democrats.

    Based in New Jersey, Just Facts concluded that thousands of “extra” noncitizen votes went to Mr. Biden, enough to flip Arizona (plus 51,081) and Georgia (plus 54,950), but not sufficient to flip the election.

    “This is just one kind of fraud,” Mr. Agresti told The Washington Times. “It’s a sizable number, which is the point. It also decimates the predominant narrative that there is no evidence of large-scale fraud in U.S. elections.”

    Mr. Trump is contesting the election in court on two major contentions: invalid mailed ballots because of fake signatures or other flaws, and a computer voting system that, his legal team says, switched Trump votes to Biden votes. The latter claim remains unproven.

    At this point there does not appear to be a formal Trump argument on noncitizen voting.

    Democrats and the liberal media are beleaguering Mr. Trump for not conceding. He believes he would win the election if only legal votes are counted and fraudulent ones are thrown out.

    On voting by noncitizens, Mr. Agresti says Democrats, in effect, offer inducements to undocumented immigrants to break the law. In the election cycle, various Democratic presidential candidates promised free health care, citizenship, open borders, no deportations and sanctuary cities.

    Over the years, Democrats also have gone to court to block states that try to enforce the noncitizen voting ban by requiring proof of citizenship.

    Said Mr. Agresti’s study: “A wealth of facts show that there are ample openings for noncitizens to illegally vote and that roughly 16% of them voted in the 2008 and 2012 presidential elections.”

    He promotes Just Facts as a conservative/libertarian research nonprofit that combats what he believes are false news media and liberal narratives.

    The noncitizen vote issue divides along ideological lines. Liberals generally contend that the illegal voting is minuscule and that cited polls have too small a sample.

    Mr. Trump set up a blue-ribbon commission to delve into voter registration lists to produce a definitive finding. But Democrat-run states balked at turning over data and the commission went away.

    Conservatives say former President Barack Obama gave the green light to fraud right before the 2016 election when he was asked if undocumented immigrants would be deported if they voted.

    “Not true,” Mr. Obama answered at the time. “And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, et cetera.”

    Poll evidence from 2008 to 2013 seems to confirm that substantial numbers of noncitizens vote. For example, a 2012 Harvard/YouGov survey found that 14% of self-identified noncitizens responded that they were registered to vote and 9% said they “definitely” voted. Of those, 80% said they voted for Mr. Obama.

    All the follow-up data, such as checks of actual rosters, indicate that 2.8 million to 7.9 million noncitizens were registered to vote in 2008, Just Facts says.

    In previous elections, ground zero on the noncitizen debate had resided at Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Virginia, and political science professor Jesse Richman.

    Based on the same census data and polling as Just Facts, Mr. Richman published what appear to be the first comprehensive studies that show significant numbers of noncitizens voting. He estimated that 2016 Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton garnered thousands of noncitizens votes. His numbers prompted Mr. Trump to make unsubstantiated claims about the popular vote he had lost.

    Other political science professors reacted by bullying Mr. Richman in an open letter calling for colleagues to blacklist his studies.

    “The scholarly political science community has generally rejected the findings in the Richman et al. study and we believe it should not be cited or used in any debate over fraudulent voting,” the letter said.

    The Harvard/YouGov survey, known officially as the Cooperative Congressional Election Study, contains too small a sample of noncitizens to draw conclusions, the blacklisters said.

    Mr. Richman has defended his landmark work.

    “I agree with the authors of the letter that the upper end of this interval may have played an unfortunate role in the president’s rhetoric,” Mr. Richman wrote in a blog. “I have, as noted above, attempted to push back against this. I will continue to do so as I think it is important that people not get fooled by an extreme upper end estimate that is almost certainly way way way too high.”

    He added: “We show that even if their response error argument is correct, there is still significant evidence of non-citizen participation in the U.S. electoral system.”

    Last year, Texas officials found 95,000 noncitizens illegally registered to vote. The state compared drivers licenses, which contain immigration status, to voter rolls.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/nov/22/joe-biden-won-illegal-votes-thousands-noncitizens-/

  208. Splat!
    The judges comments are devastating.

  209. mh

    As I said days ago, the only game left is getting SCOTUS to pretend that the equal protection clause justifies nullifying millions of votes just because they are mostly Democratic, and it would cause hurt and injury to Republicans for them to be outvoted. So the Trump strategy is still insane, but it’s not quite Powell-level insane.

    It’s the Constitution, stupid!

  210. Colonel Crispin:

    But seriously, I don’t understand the question, it isn’t specific enough about what you want to know.

    Yes – it’s badly worded, Colonel. I realised that when I looked at it again this morning.
    Essentially the context was about the electoral roll, and its accuracy.
    The commercial entities need an up to date mailing list to send out bills or to supply services.
    Comparing the commercial data bases with the Electoral Roll would give some interesting indicators to who was living where and what electorates they were enrolled in.

  211. cohenite

    The stupid old troll regurgitating the PA district court judgment. The PA equal protection issue is live and the PA judgment has nicely enunciated the issues for SCOTUS.

  212. Maj

    the only game left is getting SCOTUS

    And when the lawsuit gets there it will be judged by 6 officially conservative justices, 5 actually conservative justices, and 3 justices chosen by the sitting President.

    This election isn’t over until a majority of SCOTUS are satisfied the election was run fair, and just looking at the composition of the court, you can see that’s never going to happen.

  213. Pyrmonter

    @Monty 3668135

    A weak Dem President, increased GOP house representation, a Dem house leadership beholden to the student politics ‘Squad’, and a likely GOP Senate? That’s ‘losing’ in the least bad way.

    The Trumpkins here need to acknowledge he was never a conservative. Or a classical liberal. Or a libertarian. Or, even, a competent or sincere nationalist.

    He’s a charlatan, would-be Peronist, whose word is worth less than his credit; with crackpot ideas about trade, investment and migration; whose idea of the rule of law is a ‘rule of ego’ and who is a cul-de-sac in the course of history, a man who fluked the GOP nomination against a divided majority who preferred others, and then pulled off a narrow win in 2016, wholly unfitted for the job he managed to wangle, once.

    Time to resume normal service: socialism and systemic state interference are harmful; organised labour and the proponents of the state as saviour/font of patronage are the enemy.

  214. John of Mel

    The solution is to go back to good old-fashioned paper ballots.

    Counted by hand in front of witnesses from all parties with candidates in the election. Results entered on a simple spreadsheet, formulae open to all for checking at any random time.

    Ballots printed with a watermark and in number equal to the number of registered voters.

  215. mh

    Maj, what matters is they are CONSTITUTIONALIST judges.

  216. Notice how the distraction squirrels are getting nuked faster&faster?
    Trust the Plan.
    Nothing can stop what’s coming now!
    MAGA

  217. candy

    Fascinating interview with Sidney Powell. It would not be too much of an exaggeration to say she and others might need some personal security protection.

    I wonder if the Supreme Court will just brush this off and hope repubs/MAGA don’t revolt because of their innate sense of respecting systems and institutions. Or a couple of protests and it will be over and the Supreme Court judges can rest easy.
    Going the other way and overturning the election results would cause civil war.
    Tricky.

  218. Dot

    The Trumpkins here need to acknowledge he was never a conservative. Or a classical liberal. Or a libertarian. Or, even, a competent or sincere nationalist.

    Probably, but comparing him to Peron is loopy stuff.

  219. A weak Dem President, increased GOP house representation, a Dem house leadership beholden to the student politics ‘Squad’, and a likely GOP Senate? That’s ‘losing’ in the least bad way.

    It’s too early to see how things will play out on the Hill. After the Georgia run-offs we’ll have a better idea of how things stand.

    I could still foresee the Dems achieving a lot of things with their newfound party discipline if they keep their focus, but a lot of it is contingent on Georgia.

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