Too late for a recount?

Alas, the smoke from the Sistine Chapel’s chimney arises from the incinerated ballots.

A remarkably prescient analysis from a man being mafioso-ed out of office by comparably sinister means.

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34 Responses to Too late for a recount?

  1. Infidel Tiger

    A “Trump tweet for everything” is getting spooky.

    He gets it. Doesn’t always express it too well, but gets it.

  2. notafan

    Trump has done so much good and would have done much more good for the US and the world.

    What a disaster..

  3. C.L.

    A truly amazing, intuitive reading of Benedict XVI’s decision and its consequences.

  4. Rorschach

    The 1959 [Kennedy/Nixon] recounts went to Dec 19, with last state recount [resulting in Hawaii being flipped from Kennedy to Nixon] finishing on Dec 28.

    The Supreme court heard the appeal on December 1 and On December 12, the same day as the U.S. final Supreme Court ruling, the Florida House approved awarding the state’s electoral votes to Bush. Gore conceded on December 13.

    Plenty time yet.

  5. Rorschach

    Sorry – not clear, the last paragraph above is about Bush/Gore 2000.

  6. Daily llama

    Yeah, whatever.
    Here’s Trump’s own words;
    You can’t con people, at least not for long. You can create excitement, you can do wonderful promotion and get all kinds of press, and you can throw in a little hyperbole. But if you don’t deliver the goods, people will eventually catch on.

    I think of Jimmy Carter. After he lost the election to Ronald Reagan, Carter came to see me in my office. He told me he was seeking contributions to the Jimmy Carter Library. I asked how much he had in mind. And he said, ‘Donald, I would be very appreciative if you contributed five million dollars.’

    I was dumbfounded. I didn’t even answer him.

    But that experience also taught me something. Until then, I’d never understood how Jimmy Carter became president. The answer is that as poorly qualified as he was for the job, Jimmy Carter had the nerve, the guts, the balls to ask for something extraordinary. That ability above all helped him get elected president. But then, of course, the American people caught on pretty quickly that Carter couldn’t do the job, and he lost in a landslide when he ran for reelection.

  7. EllenG

    One of the unhappy features of US politics is the deeply divisive approach of both extremes to religious belief. Trump manipulated people who felt antagonised by the vehement secularism of some despite his evident disinterest is Christian principles.
    Ballot fakery largely relies on emotional manipulation.

  8. candy

    Daily Illama

    Jimmy Carter era was nearly half a century ago.
    Even before the Internet and social media. Before 9/11. Comparisons don’t work under such huge societal changes.

  9. Albatross

    STFU Llama you bloviating windbag.

  10. Daily llama

    Truth will out, as my mother would say. Whatever happened to the Trump landslide so many cats predicted?
    And can someone give me six numbers between one and 35? Trump cost me money!

  11. Daily llama

    And better to attempt civilised debate, have a bit of fun and be accused of bloviating than confuse inanity with wit

  12. candy

    You are a Trump hater. Don’t try and hide it. what’s the point, everyone sees through it.

  13. Cassie of Sydney

    #3663872, posted on November 18, 2020 at 9:44 pm
    STFU Llama you bloviating windbag.”

    That’s generous Albatross. I think Daily Lame is a passive aggressive wimp who thinks he’s smart…but he isn’t. A dead corpse has more personality.

  14. Cassie of Sydney

    #3663908, posted on November 18, 2020 at 10:06 pm
    You are a Trump hater. “

    He is Candy. I am reminded of the word Lame used a few weeks ago to describe Trump…that’s right…slut. I suppose it takes one to know one.

  15. Daily llama

    I don’t hate anybody. Life is too short for such things. Please at least try to be less infantile, ladies. It doesn’t become you.

  16. Gavin R Putland

    Carter lost because it was the economy, stoopid: nobody knew how to avoid the mid-cycle recession brought on by the second oil shock.

    Reagan was lionized because his last six years coincided with the economic upswing. Winning the Cold War also helped. (Pity about Iran-Contra.)

    The elder Bush won because the global property bubble didn’t burst on Reagan’s watch. Then he lost because it did burst on his own watch.

    Clinton was thought to be doing a good job (in spite of being a scoundrel) because his two terms nearly coincided with the economic upswing. Then came the tech wreck, so Gore lost.

    The younger Bush was thought to be doing a good job because his two terms mostly coincided with the economic upswing – until the GFC exposed the castle in the clouds.

    Nothing comparable happened on Obama’s watch. But neither did he break the cycle. Trump promised the change that Obama had promised but not delivered. So Hillary lost.

    So far, being seen as a successful President is all in the timing. And Trump timed it perfectly: he got a pandemic in his re-election year. Every competent politician knows that a crisis is a chance for the incumbent to look tough and decisive while the other party can only snipe from the sidelines. But Trump, as always, thought he knew best: he chose to snipe from the sidelines. “Stolen election” my arse. Trump threw it away. And if he doesn’t urgently grow the f*@% up, he’ll throw away the Senate as well.

  17. Albatross

    Daily llama
    #3663931, posted on November 18, 2020 at 10:19 pm
    I don’t hate anybody. Life is too short for such things. Please at least try to be less infantile, ladies. It doesn’t become you.


  18. Cassie of Sydney

    “Daily llama
    #3663931, posted on November 18, 2020 at 10:19 pm
    I don’t hate anybody. Life is too short for such things. Please at least try to be less infantile, ladies. It doesn’t become you.”

    LOL….the only infantile commentator on this thread is you Lame. Oh and you do mediocrity well…very well.

  19. Cassie of Sydney

    “I don’t hate anybody.”

    Yeah right…but you’ll happily call someone a “slut”. As I said above, that must be something you’re very familiar with.

  20. Cassie of Sydney

    #3663942, posted on November 18, 2020 at 10:30 pm
    Daily llama
    #3663931, posted on November 18, 2020 at 10:19 pm
    I don’t hate anybody. Life is too short for such things. Please at least try to be less infantile, ladies. It doesn’t become you.


    Notice the passive aggressive tone? Lame excels at it.

  21. Rorschach

    he got a pandemic in his re-election year.

    And the economy crashed … or more importantly, the economy was crashed by a cabal of WHO/CDC apparatchiks led by Fauxchi who flipped and flopped every five minutes to the sycophantic and orgiastic cheers of the MSM and Big Tech that had no other platform than Orange Man Bad.

    He threw nothing away. The result was that Trump won 5 million more votes than Obama [And don’t go there – at least 10 million of Biden’s are fraud]

  22. grazza

    Looking at the actions of US Post Louis de Joy, one of T’s cronies, who tried to hobble the mail-in ballots by removing sorting machines and disabling them among things, one can only conclude that the scene was set well before the election to undermine the voting process by T himself and his corrupted supporters. Quite remarkable that it rebounded on T demonstrating that eventually people will see through the lies of the father of lies. Surprising how he has corrupted the Republicans – almost a demasculation and morally gutless.

  23. Daily llama

    Perhaps you might like to check your facts- my post of some time ago was “if I was a male slut…”
    Look up the word irony.
    And yes, my posts are somewhat mediocre, but I do need to come down somewhat so the likes of thee, Albatross et al can partake in the conversation. I do look forward to the day when the tone improves, but perhaps I’m being wistful.

  24. Cassie of Sydney

    Poor Daily he sticks to talking about sluts, clearly a subject he knows a lot about.

  25. Albatross

    Jesus what a self-important bore you are Llama. You aren’t half as smart as you imagine. Give yourself an uppercut.

  26. Daily llama

    I love you guys! If only fish would bite as much as you!

  27. mareeS

    Pope Benedict had a problem with being the Pope, and resigned. This one, Francis, is a full-on communist who should never have worn the white garb. He Is way off in his moral compass, life in South America has tainted him.

  28. NuThink

    Daily llama
    #3663884, posted on November 18, 2020 at 9:52 pm
    Truth will out, as my mother would say. Whatever happened to the Trump landslide so many cats predicted?
    And can someone give me six numbers between one and 35? Trump cost me money!

    So you mother wrote The Merchant of Venice? She must be very very old.

    ‘Truth will out’ – meaning and origin.
    Search domain
    Truth will out What’s the meaning of the phrase ‘Truth will out’? The truth will become known eventually. What’s the origin of the phrase ‘Truth will out’? From Shakespeare’s The Merchant of Venice, 1596:

    And as for the six numbers you want try googling “The triple six fix” Pennsylvania 1980.
    There – I done it for you!!!

    The 1980 Pennsylvania Lottery scandal, colloquially known as the Triple Six Fix, was a successful plot to rig The Daily Number, a three-digit game of the Pennsylvania Lottery. All of the balls in the three machines, except those numbered 4 and 6, were weighted, meaning that the drawing was almost sure to be a combination of those digits. The scheme was successful in that 666 (one of the eight combinations of 4s and 6s that the “fixers” were hoping for) was drawn on April 24, 1980; however, the unusual betting patterns alerted authorities to the crime. The chief conspirators were sent to prison, and most of the fraudulently acquired winnings were never paid out.

    I read too that it was not so much the unusual betting patterns that alerted authorities to the crime, but illegal bookies who lost too much money who alerted the authorities. They wanted to keep an illegal operation honest.

    What about the Trump Landslide you asked.
    Biden was predicted – nay promised – a 9 or 10 points lead over Trump by the media. What happened to his lead?

    Then some years ago I read (before the web so no link) that Jimmy was asked by the French if he wanted Khomeni (who was living it up in France at the time) to not make his plane back to Iran, but Jimmy said No. Recall that the French have form in this area – think NZ and the Rainbow Warrior. They also host the French Foreign Legion – do you ever wonder why?

  29. Cassie of Sydney

    “I love you guys! If only fish would bite as much as you!”

    Poor Daily Lame…he clearly has no friends.

  30. Shane

    For those who wondered late at night when they couldn’t sleep, how a few thousand pages long Patriot Act could be written up, tabled & passed so quickly by the US Congress & Senate within days just after 911 here is just a bit more grist.
    Sort of pulls those servers with the vote-counting software in Germany & Spain that all the media aren’t talking about into context.
    Blog/Great Reset
    Posted Nov 18, 2020 by Martin Armstrong

    Denmark has taken a major step to a totalitarian state. This new law allows forcing people who test positive for ‘dangerous diseases’ to be ‘medically examined, hospitalized, treated and placed in isolation’. This further grants the Danish Health Authority the power ‘to define groups of people who must be vaccinated in order to contain and eliminate a dangerous disease’. The government can now coerce people who refuse to have the vaccine ‘through physical detainment, with police allowed to assist’.

    These clauses present the collapse of all freedom. The government can simply say they “think” you are a member of such a group they define arbitrarily without any court to step in with respect to human rights. All individual liberty is now officially extinguished. This law allows full discretion to government officials with respect to defining what is now even a ‘dangerous disease’ and which groups will be forced to take a vaccine.

    All the lessons of tyranny born with such horror and human suffering, for which so many gave their lives in defense against such unbound discretion handed to government agents, has been pushed aside. This agenda is being imposed because SOCIALISM is collapsing – they can no longer fund the pensions and programs for they can no longer borrow other people’s money. Instead of revising the system to preserve our humanity, world leaders have chosen the path to authoritarianism and the end of all our rights.

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    We no longer have world leaders who even remember World War II. They think only about their own status and power. They do not represent us. Just open your eyes, they are all using the very same slogan – Build Back Better.

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    Now listen to the words of Schwab. His set has the same slogan. This is the 2030 Agenda being pushed by the World Economic Forum. They believe they can terrorize people with the virus and keep the people locked down long enough to destroy the economy leaving no choice but to accept their agenda.

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    I have warned that this 2020 election was NOT simply Republican v Democrat or even Trump v Biden. This is about the very survival of the United States for they are counting on Biden being senile enough to have the sovereignty of the United States to the United Nations and fulfill George Soros’ dream of a one-world government.

  31. Kneel

    “When is the final deadline date?”

    Which one?

    For this cycle, the dates are:

    Election day: 3rd Nov (Tuesday after the first Monday in November)
    State EC voters and their voting intentions settled by the states before 8th Dec (6 days prior to EC vote)
    EC vote on 14th Dec (2nd Monday in December, IIRC)

    And inauguration on 20th Jan, 2021.

    If states have legal or other issues in the voting process, they have two options:
    1) State legislature can direct the EC voters to vote in a specific way (this is always true, but each state has different rules that determine how far this can be carried – ie, some can say vote this way regardless of the popular vote, others can only do so if the popular vote isn’t certified, some states will split their EC votes evenly between D & R candidates)
    2) State can refuse to direct EC voters before 8th Dec (this time), in which case they lose their EC vote (although I suspect they might be able to get away with deciding by 14th Dec in these days of long distance phone calls and jet planes!)

    If no candidate gets 270 votes, there is a “contingency” election where in each state, federal house legislators decide which candidate the state will support (that is, boiled down to one vote per state). Whichever candidate gets 26 or more state votes (actually half plus 1 vote, that’s currently 26) becomes president (after inauguration, of course).

    Part of Trump’s strategy may be to get sufficient unresolved legal cases across several states such that there are NOT 270 EC votes available to either candidate – pre-election, Republicans had federal house majorities in 26(?) states, post-election this has blown out to 29 (no blue wave, Dems lost 12-14 fed house seats). This doesn’t mean that R’s have more fed house seats (they don’t), only that they have a majority of fed house seats in a majority of states.

    Clear as mud?

  32. Arnost

    Election day: 3rd Nov (Tuesday after the first Monday in November)
    State EC voters and their voting intentions settled by the states before 8th Dec (6 days prior to EC vote)
    EC vote on 14th Dec (2nd Monday in December, IIRC)


    Dec. 23: The electors’ ballots from all states must be received by the president of the Senate (i.e. EC Vote).
    Jan. 3, 2021: New Congress is seated.
    Jan. 6, 2021: The House and Senate hold a joint session to count the electoral votes

    If neither presidential candidate got at least 270 electoral votes, the Congress would decide the election, based on the 12th Amendment to the Constitution. Each state delegation has one vote and it takes 26 votes to win. [I am not sure on this timing – but the state delegations will need to agree / resolve the way the state will vote, and then the Congress will need to vote to select the new president … all happens presumably before 20 Jan]

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