Open Forum: November 21, 2020

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  1. Herodotus

    The parading of Biden’s administration nominees is a sort of rocky road horror show. They promise Obama 2.0 policies including “gumbo”or was it gumboot diplomacy? Appropriate for swampy conditions.

  2. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It’s very sad the father of the deceased soldier is not allowed to keep his son’s service award. What was his boy guilty of, and there was or is no trial. The fellow is deceased.

    I’m finding it disgusting that this was planned before Defence had seen the Brereton Report.

  3. thefrollickingmole

    Well Im sure this is a great idea, with no possible problems whatsoever and extremely well thought out.

    Australia could show real contrition by offering Afghan victims’ families a pathway to resettlement
    Sajjad Askary and Sitarah Mohammadi
    The war crimes report rightly recommends compensation for victims’ families. But protection in Australia should also be considered

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/nov/25/australia-could-show-real-contrition-by-offering-afghan-victims-families-a-pathway-to-resettlement


    The Australian government could further demonstrate genuine contrition by offering resettlement pathways to Australia for the victims’ families. This would provide more security and protection, opportunities of education and employment for these people than money in Afghanistan could ever guarantee.

    An open-armed invitation would also provide a powerful corrective to years of xenophobic discourses against refugees. We owe it to the victims and to unfairly demonised communities to remind ourselves, always; they were human.

  4. thefrollickingmole

    Goddammit spamminator.

    Well Im sure this is a great idea, with no possible problems whatsoever and extremely well thought out.

    Australia could show real contrition by offering Afghan victims’ families a pathway to resettlement
    Sajjad Askary and Sitarah Moh am madi
    The war crimes report rightly recommends compensation for victims’ families. But protection in Australia should also be considered

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/nov/25/australia-could-show-real-contrition-by-offering-afghan-victims-families-a-pathway-to-resettlement


    The Australian government could further demonstrate genuine contrition by offering resettlement pathways to Australia for the victims’ families. This would provide more security and protection, opportunities of education and employment for these people than money in Afghanistan could ever guarantee.

    An open-armed invitation would also provide a powerful corrective to years of xenophobic discourses against refugees. We owe it to the victims and to unfairly demonised communities to remind ourselves, always; they were human.

  5. jupes

    General Campbell announced last week he had accepted Justice Brereton’s recommendation that he request the Governor-General to revoke the Meritorious Unit Citation for all special forces task groups who served in Afghanistan between 2007 and 2013.

    Here is the chance for the Governor General to cover himself in glory. He should refuse the swivel-eyed loon’s request. Then, if he really wanted to make a name for himself, he should strip Campbell of his DSC!

    Won’t happen of course.

  6. notafan

    I see the sick puppet is scaremongering about Trump Elixir.

  7. jupes

    We owe it to the victims and to unfairly demonised communities to remind ourselves, always; they were human …

    … whose weapon of choice was the improvised explosive device.

  8. jupes

    General Campbell announced last week he had accepted Justice Brereton’s recommendation that he request the Governor-General to revoke the Meritorious Unit Citation for all special forces task groups who served in Afghanistan between 2007 and 2013.

    Retired veterans should just wear it anyway. Fuck Campbell.

  9. Herodotus

    Shy Ted at 7.35am – Seconded!

  10. Dr Faustus

    America as adventure playground:

    “The BREATHE Act is a legislative love letter to Black people,” BLM co-founder Patrisse Cullors wrote in an op-ed for Teen Vogue on Thursday.

    Democratic Reps. Rashida Tlaib of Michigan and Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts announced the act in July, but it has not been brought before Congress.

    The BREATHE Act.

    No po-lice-man;
    – No prison;
    – Decriminalise drugs;
    – Free and pardon all drug cons;
    – Reparations;
    – Universal Basic Income;
    – Voting for cons and illegals;
    – Social and environmental justice
    .

    Time to pay the piper.
    C’mon, man.

  11. thefrollickingmole

    Classic “mind so open her brain has fallen out” stuff.
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/nov/24/scotland-becomes-first-nation-to-provide-free-period-products-for-all
    Scotland has become the first country in the world to provide free and universal access to period products after a four-year campaign that has fundamentally shifted the public discourse around menstruation.

    The Period Products (Free Provision) (Scotland) Act, which passed unanimously through its final stage on Tuesday evening, will place a legal duty on local authorities to make period products available for all those who need them, building on the work of councils like North Ayrshire, which has been providing free tampons and sanitary towels in its public buildings since 2018.

    The campaign – bolstered by nationwide grassroots support – was spearheaded by Scottish Labour’s health spokeswoman, Monica Lennon, who told the Guardian this was “a proud day for Scotland”.

    Lennon said: “This will make a massive difference to the lives of women and girls and everyone who menstruates. There has already been great progress at a community level and through local authorities in giving everyone the chance of period dignity.

  12. will

    1735099
    #3670231, posted on November 25, 2020 at 9:48 am
    War crimes report: ‘Don’t strip my dead son’s award from us’, says Afghan veteran’s father

    They need to wait until the ADF has laid charges against the alleged perpetrators, and they’ve had their day in court. If found guilty, they should lose their awards. Just them – nobody else.

    it is clear that Numbers has never won an award for anything in his life

    hint: awards are for keeps, cause what you did cannot be undone

  13. thefrollickingmole

    Insincterator has set controls for the heart of the sun..

    Classic “mind so open her brain has fallen out” stuff from the porridge barbarians
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/nov/24/scotland-becomes-first-nation-to-provide-free-period-products-for-all
    Scotland has become the first country in the world to provide free and universal access to period products after a four-year campaign that has fundamentally shifted the public discourse around menstruation.

    The Period Products (Free Provision) (Scotland) Act, which passed unanimously through its final stage on Tuesday evening, will place a legal duty on local authorities to make period products available for all those who need them, building on the work of councils like North Ayrshire, which has been providing free tampons and sanitary towels in its public buildings since 2018.

    The campaign – bolstered by nationwide grassroots support – was spearheaded by Scottish Labour’s health spokeswoman, Monica Lennon, who told the Guardian this was “a proud day for Scotland”.

    Lennon said: “This will make a massive difference to the lives of women and girls and everyone who menstruates. There has already been great progress at a community level and through local authorities in giving everyone the chance of period dignity.

  14. areff

    Shingles the first time around was awful. The second episode, I was ready and scored a suppressant prescription within 36 hours of the first blisters appearing on my neck. Still not nice, but shorter lived and nowhere near so unpleasant as the first episode.

  15. Dr Faustus

    They need to wait until the ADF has laid charges against the alleged perpetrators, and they’ve had their day in court. If found guilty, they should lose their awards. Just them – nobody else.

    A more sensible approach than the current, Government-endorsed, ‘burn the witches’ hysteria.

  16. Mother Lode

    General Campbell announced last week he had accepted Justice Brereton’s recommendation that he request the Governor-General to revoke the Meritorious Unit Citation for all special forces task groups who served in Afghanistan between 2007 and 2013.

    Just like that school that scrubbed Cardinal Pell’s name from some board or plinth or whatever when he was ‘in disgrace’, but refused to put it back when the conviction was quashed.

    No one has been found guilty of anything yet but they are proceeding anyway as if it has.

    While Campbell is at it, perhaps he could surrender some of his awards since he was ultimately and strictly responsible.

  17. woolfe

    They need to wait until the ADF has laid charges against the alleged perpetrators, and they’ve had their day in court.

    If it is a Victorian Court they can save the cost of a trial.

  18. Cassie of Sydney

    “Just like that school that scrubbed Cardinal Pell’s name from some board or plinth or whatever when he was ‘in disgrace’, but refused to put it back when the conviction was quashed.

    No one has been found guilty of anything yet but they are proceeding anyway as if it has.”

    I see the the same similarities and just like they did with Pell, Scummo and the LNP are joining in the lynching.

  19. Roger

    Retired veterans should just wear it anyway.

    That was King George V’s view, and since he expressed it no VCs have been forfeited.

    I fear we now live in rather meaner times though.

  20. Struth

    Good Moaning.

    The Great Gaslighting, what a fantastic term for what has been done to the world.
    Peter Campion , independent Candidate for Hill in FNQ used the term in a recently published letter to a local Newspaper.
    A thoroughly decent freedom fighter and a man of integrity, he also has the ability to say in a few words that which I labour over fitting into a small novel.

    An envious talent.

    With this global gaslighting, the insanity is now everywhere.

    People are actually looking forward to a Vaccine.

    If doing a deal with the devil needed an example, this would be it.

    The pure insanity of desperation, of ignorance and obtuse refusal to see the obvious in that the devil always has a trick up his sleeve.

    He’s calling all the shots once you submit to him.
    Just this once. Just to get overseas, so what’s the problem?
    Take the bloody jab and all will revert back to normal!
    Why make a fuss?

    Who remembers the smarty pants economically astute, Libertarian wonder kids who thought dealing with the Chinese was great for low cost goods, and the way free markets actually operate, while never looking at how the Chinese got to the position they were in, and what putting all your eggs in a communist basket would do…..After all, cheap shit is cheap shit!!
    The costs we have paid for this, and the terrible costs in all things not just monetary, as we are only now starting to pay, and pay dearly, showing those cheap goods were actually the most expensive on the planet.
    Anyway, unlike Peter Campion, I digress (how unusual!)

    The gaslighted view that accepting the vaccine for international travel is do-able and without repercussion, (like dealing with the Chinese) is pure fantasy.

    Of course to anyone not willing to park their backside on the top of the slippery dip to total tyranny, the reasons are obvious.
    Unlike yesteryear’s yellow fever jabs, and jabs for malaria and other real diseases, they were country specific and never needed if going to disease free countries ( a fact the liberal party hacks on Skynews last night failed to mention when attempting to justify this as nothing new)

    Secondly, this is a mild cold virus at best, which kills nobody but the oldies usually finished of by colds and flu every year, all with comorbidities and a foot in the grave.

    It should be called death by reclassification.
    All well proven.
    There is no need for a vaccine to cure people of a virus they have to be tested for,(by Chinese test kits) to see if they have, because the sneakiness of this new black death is you feel well!!!!…………………. no symptoms experienced!!!!

    The vaccine, better described as a gaslighting Placebo, doesn’t have to do alot to be 90% effective.
    All it has to do is make billions for Bill Gates and co, and be used to usher in digital tyranny of the highest order.

    And ask yourself, once you submit to this, to get on a plane, do you seriously think it will end with plane travel?
    If you do, think seriously how that gaslighting and desperation to go back to the freedoms of 2019,is affecting your sanity.
    A deal with the devil is a losing deal.
    And of course I leave out the big kicker.
    The global socialist elites like Klaus and his mates are telling you it isn’t going to end with just plane travel.

    But even SkyNews after dark and the ever Useless Credlin and her mates, Liberal party hacks all, are talking as if it is your saviour.
    Now why would the global socialist Liberal party be doing that?

  21. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘The other place’.

    Not that I’ve tried, but yeah, it seems like only The Approved may comment. The number of The Approved appears to be three.

    Or – or, nobody else cares enough.

  22. Terry Pedersen

    For those who believed her fantasies: A lament:

    Sydney Powell was our Powell
    We used her every day
    For cons and fakes
    That Rudi bakes
    We found she was okay (okay)

    But now that we have tried her
    We’ve changed our tune to say (to say)
    Sydney Powell’s not our Powell
    We’ve thrown that gal away.

    She was clearly half-baked, but still overcooked

  23. Knuckle Dragger

    Ewwwwwwww creepy.

    Just like that. An appearance from the Land of the Long White Sock.

  24. twostix

    I’m at a loss as to why vaccines are the new boogaloo.

    They put an end to revolving door lockdowns, all that really matters is that they are safe and free from compulsion.

    There are plenty of other airlines, if Qantas is a problem for you.

    I’m sure he’s insisting for a couple of valid commercial reasons, to get back in the air and to avoid being sued by people claiming to have contracted covid on a Qantas flight.

    Back in march you were saying the same thing about the temporary ‘lockdown’.

    Then spent three months locked up like a prisoner in solitary confinement.

    And apparently haven’t learned a thing!

    🤣

  25. Infidel Tiger

    Terrible news. Christophe Dominici killed himself.

    One of the greats of rugby.

  26. H B Bear

    I suspect most subscriptions to Australia’s leading anti-business daily are corporate ones that have been overlooked in budget meeting and lie unread in countless foyers. It’s equivalent,The Grauniad-on-the-Yarra lies unread in cafes outside Northcote and Fitzroy.

  27. Knuckle Dragger

    Clearly, now would be a bad time to mention that I’m on The List for PML in Darwin tonight.

    Not because I’ve a raving fan, but because the Trailer Boat Club up here’s got a pretty good view and does a decent seafood basket.

    And I can wear my Lock and Load DJT shirt.

  28. DrBeauGan

    Is it fear?

    It’s always fear.

    It’s one of our Big Instructions, Bruce. Do Not Fear.

    There comes a point in life where you realise that fear is optional. You can either live in fear until you die or simply refuse to do so. I declined to live in fear many years ago; there are worse things than being dead.

  29. it is clear that Numbers has never won an award for anything in his life

    Not exactly.
    I have the Australian Active Service Medal, 1945-1975 (Clasp – Vietnam); Vietnam Medal; Australian Defence Medal; Anniversary of National Service Medal; Vietnamese Campaign Medal, Returned from Active Service Badge No 126218, Australian Defence Veteran Badge and the Infantry Combat badge. That doesn’t include civilian awards, such as the Education Queensland’s EIEIO* award (1996).
    *Excellence In Education In the Outback.

  30. Struth

    I’m at a loss as to why vaccines are the new boogaloo.

    They put an end to revolving door lockdowns, all that really matters is that they are safe and free from compulsion.

    There are plenty of other airlines, if Qantas is a problem for you.

    I’m sure he’s insisting for a couple of valid commercial reasons, to get back in the air and to avoid being sued by people claiming to have contracted covid on a Qantas flight.

    I haven’t scrolled back, who’s that gullible………let me guess!

    Oh, and we have hundreds of readers daily, Knuckle dragger, and it’s only just started.
    You stay here and talk cricket.

  31. Mother Lode

    it is clear that Numbers has never won an award for anything in his life

    He got the Elephant Stamp on the back of his hand almost everyday at school.

    His students thought it as preposterous as it actually was.

  32. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Oh, and we have hundreds of readers daily’

    Pro tip: Bots don’t really read.

  33. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘EIEIO’

    Excellence
    In
    Evading
    Infantry
    Operations

  34. Maj

    There is no need for a vaccine to cure people of a virus they have to be tested for

    The golden rule when it comes to any vaccine from the Great Man himself

  35. Dr Faustus

    I suspect most subscriptions to Australia’s leading anti-business daily are corporate ones that have been overlooked in budget meeting and lie unread in countless foyers.

    Every time the Fin has reported on something I’ve been involved with, or know something about, I have the ‘FMD, how does this ignorant shite even get published?’ rage experience. And yet I read the pieces on other peoples business with just the normal level of scepticism.

    Unless the reporter kiddies have a particular blind spot for resources and energy, it’s possible the Fin Rev is 97.3% wrong on everything it touches.

  36. Roger

    UK researchers have discovered that stress during pregnancy can affect how a baby’s brain develops and lead to “emotional problems” in later life.

    Could this at least partly explain why working mothers who wanted a high flying career and a family have produced Generation Snowflake?

  37. Boambee John

    Education Queensland’s EIEIO* award (1996)

    Old bin chicken won a gong,

    EIEIO

    And on his shelf he set that gong,

    EIEIO

    With a gong gong here, and a gong gong there, and a gong gong everythere,

    EIEIO.

  38. notafan

    It won’t make any difference if international governments make Covid vaccination a condition of entry and you can’t get travel insurance without being vaccinated.

    My advise if no like, holiday at home.

  39. lotocoti

    Classic “mind so open her brain has fallen out” stuff from the porridge barbarians

    Nobody thought to explain irony to Women for Independence who did the research.

  40. notafan

    Hundreds of readers!

    I’m on the Trump Elixir train

    He’s not your saviour any more?

    Sad!

    If you don’t trust ‘big pharma’ you should not take any medication or have surgery of any kind, just rely on witch doctors and such.

    It’s the only way to avoid being microchip controlled.

  41. Herodotus

    Sidney Powell isn’t through yet, Terrible Pedersen.

  42. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Period Products (Free Provision) (Scotland) Act, which passed unanimously through its final stage on Tuesday evening

    He’s only been dead a month but 007 is probably already rolling over in his grave.
    How far has Scotland the Brave fallen?
    Oh well, after they declare independence and the British Army invades they can throw free tampons at the invading army. Which just might work given they’ve declined somewhat lately. Woad-coloured sanitary pads would be terrifying.

    (I’ve a thousand years of shame-faced Scots family heritage.)

  43. notafan

    I’ve never had flu (that I know of) but from time to time I get flu vaccination.

    Because no-one who isn’t sick is tested for flu we don’t know if it is widely present amongst the general population.

    We can all assess potential benefits of getting a particular vaccine and getting it or not getting it.

    Millions of Americans are likely to be vaccinated in a couple of weeks plenty of opportunity to see if they turn into mindless zombies.

  44. Kev

    Anniversary of National Service Medal
    I thought you made a big deal of publicly rejecting this medal…

  45. Johno

    Australian Defence Veteran Badge

    What is this, never heard of it.

  46. rickw:

    The simple answer is to push for Joyce and his board to be publicly vaccinated.

    Now there’s a catchy meme for the elites – You First!

  47. I thought you made a big deal of publicly rejecting this medal…

    I’ve been “awarded” it Kev.
    I didn’t ask for it.

  48. notafan

    What did I say about lockdown twistedknicks?

    Oh that’s right you’re gaslighting again.

    Nothing beyond stage two which in the circumstances was pretty tame.

    I suppose you were demanding the borders remaining completely open and your sovereign right to travel to Wuhan immediately.

  49. JC

    Maj
    #3670324, posted on November 25, 2020 at 11:20 am

    An angry online campaign has been orchestrated by anti-vaxxers in a bid to attack the Qantas compulsory coronavirus jab policy.

    The People are fighting back!!

    Fighting back against what eggsactly. If you don’t like the conditions, then don’t get on the fucking plane. IT’s that simple.

    Rickw

    Joyce and others will take the vax.

  50. Johno

    You had to ask for it. The veteran badge that is. Still your widdle sword and shield isn’t it sniffy.?

  51. notafan

    It won’t matter if the vaccines prove to be safe and efficacious, which is where the evidence is leading, because you always opposed them.

    I’m looking at the new information and changing my mind.

    How dare I!

  52. JC

    The twists and turns by some people here is incredible. Trump, through warp speed, managed to get the vax made in literally warp speed. It was a magnificent government effort. And you now have some Trump supporters speaking conspiratorially against the vax.

    Fuck you guys.

  53. Cassie of Sydney

    “Roger
    #3670355, posted on November 25, 2020 at 11:42 am
    Yet another feminist (also a Marxist) finds herself paying a price for being on the wrong side of the trans “debate”.”

    Yep…..she was hounded out…just like Bari Weiss was at the NYT. Moore is, of course, right about the whole absurd trans debate however I can’t help feeling that feminists such as Moore, with their incessant man hating, have brought this on themselves and on women in general.

  54. Cassie of Sydney

    “and you now have some Trump supporters speaking conspiratorially against the vax.”

    JC…I’m not against a vaccine, I’m just concerned about the haste…..vaccines have (usually) taken years to develop.

  55. notafan

    It’s a good day, Queensland have finally opened the border to Victoria and my daughter and granddaughter will be here early next week, extended family absolutely delighted.

  56. Kev

    HOW IT IS AWARDED
    The Governor-General awards the Anniversary of National Service 1951-1972 Medal on the recommendation of the Chief of the Defence Force or their delegate.

    Former national servicemen and their next of kin can apply for the medal.

    For an application form write to:

    Directorate of Honours and Awards

    Link

    It looks like you had to apply for the medal. Did you? Do you wear it?

    Just curious…I’m off to the gym…will check back later

  57. Johno

    The vaccine has been hurried along and we should all take note that when the first SARS vaccine was released it caused in excess of 800 deaths. I am not against vaccines but I am cautious about rush jobs that have a great deal of political manipulation behind them.

    As JC said if you don’t like the jab, don’t get on the plane. Or words to that effect.

  58. thefrollickingmole

    Look at this fucking “expert”.
    Look and laugh.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/nov/25/australias-entire-sas-regiment-must-be-disbanded-after-brereton-report-expert-says
    But Orr argues disbanding 2 squadron is not only “completely disingenuous” but sends the wrong message.

    “Disbanding a squadron also places blame on the enlisted ranks firmly,” he said. “Disbanding the entire regiment would be the officer corp taking responsibility also, but of course we see now rampantly that wasn’t ever an option.”

    He said the failure to disband also sends a wider message to the international community.

    “It pushes Australia out of the international leadership system with blatant hypocrisy (democracy as we say not as we do),” Orr said. “We may as well quit the UN because it’s clear you hold your troops to Blackwater levels of accountability and now have the same human-rights power indices as Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, Russia.

    “Basically you are tier two now on the global stage. It also sends the message that the army is uncontrollable and unaccountable, determines its own justice.”

    Orr says the continued existence of the SASR also risks breeding domestic terrorism “like nothing has before”.

    “This shows, for those susceptible to radicalisation, proof positive that ‘white men’ have two sets of rules and that it’s OK to kill non-western peoples,” he said.

  59. Top Ender:

    Show your support for common sense and help us stop this persecution of ‘the many’ who served with honour.

    Already done.
    Why are a stack of gutless, careerist, intellectually and morally stunted people trying to cause harm, and in some cases deadly harm to a group of people who have been selected for their firearm accuracy, knowledge of explosives and traps, and their generally superior intelligence and planning capability?
    I would hope the perpetrators of this dreadful act against some of Australia’s finest have some idea of the untenable position they have placed themselves in.
    Not that I’m advocating violence, you realise. That would be a bad thing.

  60. DrBeauGan

    Roger
    #3670355, posted on November 25, 2020 at 11:42 am

    Yet another feminist (also a Marxist) finds herself paying a price for being on the wrong side of the trans “debate”.

    She goes on and on. And on. It’s funny in a way, reality catches up. She’s nearly as boring as Stephen Molyneux. Same flaw, self-absorbed waffle and a total inability to cut the crap.

  61. Cassie of Sydney

    “I am not against vaccines but I am cautious about rush jobs that have a great deal of political manipulation behind them.”

    Agree.

  62. notafan

    Apparently Trump has signalled transition to commence.

    So much for dragging him out of the White house.

  63. If you don’t like the conditions, then don’t get on the fucking plane. IT’s that simple.

    True, and has been true for years if you’re arriving from these countries without a current Yellow Fever vaccination –

    Burundi
    Cameroon
    Central African Republic
    Congo, Republic of
    Cote d’Ivoire (Ivory Coast)
    Democratic Republic of Congo
    French Guiana
    Gabon
    Ghana
    Guinea-Bissau
    Liberia
    Mali
    Niger
    Sierra Leone
    Togo
    Uganda

    And try enrolling your offspring in Kindys and schools in almost all US states without current vaccination certificates.

    Compulsory vaccination has been around for decades.
    It has a lot to do with the almost complete absence of outbreaks of Polio, Diphtheria, Measles, Whooping Cough, Rubella, Pneumococcal Disease, Rotavirus, Mumps, Chickenpox and Hepatitis B in most developed countries.
    This bleating is just something else for anti-science nutters to whinge about.

  64. Cassie of Sydney

    “She’s nearly as boring as Stephen Molyneux”

    So true….Molyneux is like a cult leader.

  65. EvilElvis

    Clearly, now would be a bad time to mention that I’m on The List for PML in Darwin tonight.

    Throw a hotdog at him for me, KD.

    If you know what I mean…

  66. Maj

    As JC said if you don’t like the jab, don’t get on the plane. Or words to that effect.

    What if your job requires you to get on the plane? What then? Lose your job?

    Some “choice”, eh?

  67. shatterzzz

    t’s a good day, Queensland have finally opened the border to Victoria and my daughter and granddaughter will be here early next week, extended family absolutely delighted.

    Congrats .. I’ve a daughter and 3 grandkids coming up from Melbourne this weekend .. haven’t seen any of them (other than phone vid) since January & as a bonus I’m going back with them on Tuesday for a few days

  68. Notafan:

    all that really matters is that they are safe and free from compulsion.

    That’s the problem. The compulsion part has already been hinted at.
    Safety has not been established due to the truncated testing regime.

    There are plenty of other airlines, if Qantas is a problem for you.

    How long will that last? It’s just a faceless bureaucrats signature away from refusing entry to an airport or a bus, hospital or football stadium without proof of vaccination.

    If this stuff is so good, then “You First!”

  69. Roger

    She goes on and on.

    Yes, she does.

    To get the gist I just read the lead sentence of each para, skimmed through the rest and read the conclusion.

    Life is short.

  70. Bruce of Newcastle

    Because no-one who isn’t sick is tested for flu we don’t know if it is widely present amongst the general population.

    Nota – Weirdly, because of heinous bat crud, we now know the prevalence of flu in the population.

    Zero.

    The controls the tin-pot dictators have instituted for the crud have nuked influenza quite amazingly. Go to pp 22-23 of the latest NSW weekly report, you will see graphs of flu test results. Zero since April, and zero deaths. Whereas deaths from pneumonia have plateauxed at about 300 per week, minus the virus related cases that vanished also after April. The data is quite amazing.

    (Sorry, I have a thing for real world data, goes with my life’s obsession.)

  71. Cassie of Sydney

    Well the flu shot isn’t “compulsory” and despite what the hermitically sealed racist writes, Covid isn’t yellow fever or malaria.

  72. Johno

    Anniversary of National Service Medal.

    So sniffy, it appears you applied for the medal and then made a song and dance about rejecting it.
    Beyond low act.

  73. It looks like you had to apply for the medal.

    Wasn’t the case in 2003.
    From memory the National Service Association organised the applications and the invitations in each centre.
    The whole deal was orchestrated through the office of the local federal member.
    It was a completely political operation, a bit like our commitment to Vietnam.
    First I knew was an out-of-the blue invitation to attend the presentation ceremony.

    Did you?

    No. See above.

    Do you wear it?

    I’d wear it, if I had it, to make sure I wasn’t mistaken for a volunteer.
    Without the medal, it’s a moot point.
    Maybe I should request a replacement?
    What do you reckon?

  74. EvilElvis

    Oh, and we have hundreds of readers daily,

    Wait! What? Is there a splinter site? I’m so out of the loop…

  75. Some “choice”, eh?

    And you get infected, pass the virus on to someone else, and they die.
    What part of “choice” is that?

  76. notafan

    Yes BoN

    People taking additional precautions re hygiene have made an enormous difference to the spread of flu.

    I guess that’s a reflection more on people than government in NSW.

  77. notafan

    Don’t worry Winston

    I’ll be first in line, I want to travel and I trust the Trumpster.

  78. thefrollickingmole

    Compulsory vaccination has been around for decades.

    Yellow fever fatality rate.
    Case fatality rates for reported cases are in the order of 15 to 50%.

    vs

    USA rate is around 3%
    Austfailures less than that.

  79. Bruce of Newcastle

    Burundi
    Cameroon
    Central African Republic
    Congo, Republic of
    Cote d’Ivoire (Ivory Coast)
    Democratic Republic of Congo
    French Guiana
    Gabon
    Ghana
    Guinea-Bissau
    Liberia
    Mali
    Niger
    Sierra Leone
    Togo
    Uganda

    I’d be happy for Numbers to emigrate to any of those countries, preferably to the one with the worst internet service.

  80. thefrollickingmole

    There are plenty of other airlines, if Qantas is a problem for you.

    Their ABC had the midget penis enthusiast talking about no jab no fly followed by another chap whos company is trying to roll out a global airlines version of an electronic vaccination passport which he mentioned Virgin, Swiss Air and about 5 others.

    You WILL eat the bugs.

  81. Roger

    And you get infected, pass the virus on to someone else, and they die.
    What part of “choice” is that?

    You can’t eliminate risk from life.

    The vulnerable and those responsible for them should take sensible precautions.

    Everybody else should get on with life.

    It’s not the Black Death, for heaven’s sake.

  82. Arky

    The controls the tin-pot dictators have instituted for the crud have nuked influenza quite amazingly.

    ..
    I will make a prediction.
    Among the unforeseen consequences of our stupid response to the CCP virus will be this: With populations of young people who have had their natural immunity processes disrupted by these lockdowns, the next strain of influenza will be vicious.
    And it won’t be old people with a few months left on their clocks that it will wipe out. It’ll be the young and the very young.
    Our response invites a one- two punch: a covid feint to the guts and then a knockout to the head from influenza or bird flu.

  83. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Convicted terrorist Abdul Nacer Benbrika has citizenship cancelled

    Tessa Akerman
    Reporter
    @TessaAkerman
    An hour ago November 25, 2020
    1 Comment

    The Federal government cancelled terrorist Abdul Nacer Benbrika’s citizenship on Friday, in a secondary move to protect the Australian community if they fail to keep him in jail after his sentence expired this month.

    Benbrika served 15 years behind bars for his role as the spiritual leader of Australia’s largest terror network.

    His sentence expired on November 5 and he is kept in jail due to an interim detention order from the Victorian Supreme Court while the government seeks a continuing detention order of three years.

    The government amended the Citizenship Cessation bill on September 3 to apply to Australian citizens convicted of terrorism acts from May 2003.

    The act previously applied to acts committed after December 2015.

    The amendment came into effect on September 18, nine days after the legal proceedings were issued in the Supreme Court to issue a continuing detention order against Benbrika.

    Benbrika’s barrister Brian Walters QC told the court he was concerned about the use of the legislation in the case against Benbrika.

    “[My client] has now completed his sentence, he shouldn’t be subjected to this,” Mr Walters said. “We are concerned that this power is now being deployed against our client in a way that appears to affect the argument in the case.”

    Mr Walters said he was notified about the decision to cancel Benbrika’s citizenship on Sunday afternoon.

    Benbrika now holds an ex-citizen visa which could be cancelled on character grounds.

    “That visa is liable to be cancelled by the Minister at any time,” Mr Walters said.

    He said Benbrika would then be taken into immigration detention and liable to be deported back to Algeria at any time.

    Rowena Orr QC said Benbrika would not be taken to immigration detention while he was still in jail on the interim detention order.

    “The effect of [the decision] is to place the defendant on a visa rather than have status as an Australian citizen,” she said.

    She said the decision showed the “availability of a different path” to a less restrictive measure of preventing an unidentifiable risk.

    “[We say it is] not an effective measure for addressing the risk posed by the defendant,” Ms Orr said.

    She said there would be a lack of reach and oversight by Australian authorities if Benbrika was deported to his home country and there was a risk of him committing offences from overseas.

    Benbrika has 90 days to appeal the decision to revoke his citizenship.

    The Supreme Court trial over a continuing detention order starts Monday.

    Benbrika was convicted over terror plots involving two cells, one in Sydney and the other in Melbourne, and would have targeted the 2005 AFL grand final at the MCG, Crown casino during the Grand Prix weekend in 2006 and Sydney’s Lucas Heights nuclear reactor.

    Benbrika, an Algerian immigrant and former aviation engineer, was one of 17 caught up in what at the time was Australia’s largest counter-terrorism investigation, Operation Pendennis. He was arrested in 2005 and refused parole in 2017 by former Attorney-General George Brandis.

    Does Algeria still guillotine terrorists?

  84. Bruce of Newcastle

    And you get infected, pass the virus on to someone else, and they die.
    What part of “choice” is that?

    Numbers – You should ask the gay community about that.
    HIV is still incurable and knocks about 10 years off lifespan even with the best of care.
    Oddly no one ever talks about this particular issue, because qwerties are a protected lefty species.

  85. Arky

    If you think people have behaved fearfully when there was a 1% chance of granny dying, when most of us don’t really like gran all that much, imagine the response when children start to die in the next flu epidemic that no bastard has immunity to.

  86. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Throw a hotdog at him for me, KD.

    If you know what I mean…’

    Dunno Elvis. Might be a pretty big hallway.

  87. jupes

    Benbrika now holds an ex-citizen visa which could be cancelled on character grounds.

    Could? FMD, how could it not?

    Or to put it another way, if being a convicted terrorist doesn’t indicate bad character, what does?

  88. Knuckle Dragger

    Prefers to be called a ‘returned serviceman’ rather than ‘veteran’.

    Applies for veteran badge, to enhance cred at plenary council meetings.

  89. jupes

    She said the decision showed the “availability of a different path” to a less restrictive measure of preventing an unidentifiable risk.

    Here’s another path they should consider: Death penalty for convicted terrorists.

    She said there would be a lack of reach and oversight by Australian authorities if Benbrika was deported to his home country and there was a risk of him committing offences from overseas.

    So what?

  90. Dr Faustus

    Premier Daniel Andrews defends Belt and Road agreement with China

    Mr Andrews told Today “diplomatic issues” between Australia and China should not get in the way of trade agreements.

    “I am focused on getting as much product out of Victoria into big markets,” he said.

    Emperor Xi smiles slightly.
    He has loyal servants who properly understand ‘obligation’ and ‘self interest’.

  91. Mother Lode

    Yet another feminist (also a Marxist) finds herself paying a price for being on the wrong side of the trans “debate”.

    Long been one of my questions – how would a man know that he was feeling like a woman? And vice versa.

    He might decide he wishes he were a woman according to what he thinks that will achieve. Or a way of wishing he were not a man – or simply that he wishes he was not himself.

  92. Case fatality rates for reported cases are in the order of 15 to 50%.

    Which is good news for the other 85% to 50%.

  93. Bruce of Newcastle

    Numbers is the most boring piñata in the world.
    There’s a certain satisfaction obtained by bashing him with a cluebat.
    But nothing good ever comes out of the fractured carcass.

  94. EvilElvis

    Dunno Elvis. Might be a pretty big hallway.

    You’ll be fine. He’s no Alan ‘A380 Aisle’ Joyce.

  95. Dot

    – Decriminalise drugs;
    – Free and pardon all drug cons;

    That’s actually very good.

  96. thefrollickingmole

    KKK releases their most potent recruiting video ever.
    Great ratio as well.
    Likes: 8.2K

    Dislikes: 124K

    The only ones who make sense are the last 3-4

  97. I’m sure he’s insisting for a couple of valid commercial reasons, to get back in the air and to avoid being sued by people claiming to have contracted covid on a Qantas flight.

    So why are we having to have an unknown substance injected into our bodies because Rupert Qantas might lose out on a few quid?
    Why is the government stepping in to ensure he gets his yearly bonus?
    This is a commercial issue – not a governmental one.

  98. notafan

    Yes Roger

    Vunerable family is another valid reason.

    Will be interesting to see how the flu comes back.

  99. old bloke

    Maj
    #3670386, posted on November 25, 2020 at 12:03 pm

    As JC said if you don’t like the jab, don’t get on the plane. Or words to that effect.

    What if your job requires you to get on the plane? What then? Lose your job?

    Some “choice”, eh?

    Maybe Qantas could go back to the good old days of segregated flights, the smokers and non-smokers seating arrangements.

    The non-vaccinated get seated at the front of the plane, those who take the jab sit at the back.

  100. Dot

    No man in Australia should join the ADF.

    There is nothing in it for you but heavy lifting for corporate psychopaths who are also traitorous cucks and women who want to feel good about themselves.

    It is also entirely questionable if Australia is worth defending at all.

    The cucks, divorced single mums giving their infant sons irreversible sex changes, anti industrialist consoomers and poor suckers who believe the MSM can inherit the West, they deserve it.

  101. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I’m sure he’s insisting for a couple of valid commercial reasons, to get back in the air and to avoid being sued by people claiming to have contracted covid on a Qantas flight.

    I’d risk a vaccine in order to be free to travel. All of my future years are limited and precious with regard to ability to travel and enjoy it doing normal sorts of things. I took the risk with the Yellow Fever vaccine recently; there is a list of bad effects you have to sign off on before they give it to you, especially if over 70. They made me sit for half an hour in the surgery before I could go home after I got it. Hairy too. He’s not over 70 but he has various health issues, heart etc.

    I suspect I’ve probably had Covid with the couple of sore throats I developed briefly during our time in the US in March. If not, so what? I’ll get immune via a jab and take the risk. I haven’t had the shingles shot because I think I had Shingles years ago, same thing as mentioned above by one of the Cat’s medical personnel: deep nerve pain in one leg, small numbers of blisters appearing. I was 35 and we were staying for a week with the in-laws so that my kindly m-in-law could look after me after surgery; then f-in-law developed Chicken Pox. I had Chicken Pox quite badly as a child. So I’ve had my Shingles, I reckon, and trust the pox virus lingering in my nerves has settled down and perhaps been shunted out of my body by that little lot of blisters – undiagnosed, but I was fairly sure due to the intense leg nerve pain that it was Shingles. I’d just had a major surgery so was in a lowered immunity state.

  102. Farmer Gez

    Premier Daniel Andrews defends Belt and Road agreement with China

    Mr Andrews told Today “diplomatic issues” between Australia and China should not get in the way of trade agreements.

    “I am focused on getting as much product out of Victoria into big markets,” he said.

    He could start with Victorian barley, a big crop being harvested now.
    C’mon big talking Dan, get those ships loaded and sailing.

    The truth is that no company will load grain from Australia and send it to China with the threat of cargoes being rejected on spurious contamination or quarantine grounds.
    Andrews opening his gob doesn’t get commodity contracts signed and executed.

  103. Zyconoclast

    So I can get a van load, drive to England and sell them for 50% of the retail price?

    Scot Gov Fairer
    @ScotGovFairer

    ·
    7h
    Scotland will be the first country in the world to ensure there is access to free period products for anyone who needs them, under a law passed unanimously
    @ScotParl
    this evening.

  104. Maj

    No man in Australia should join the ADF.

    The ADF has a worrying high rate of men “transitioning” to women, and butch “women” in their ranks.

  105. Bruce of Newcastle

    Dot – Sure, as long as they pay the medical costs of their addiction themselves. I don’t want to pay for it. And any legal compensation to victims they may assault, defraud, steal from or otherwise harm. I don’t want to pay for that either. Plus the schools should have big time drugs education, with emphasis on the harm and the penurization and social anathemization drug addiction tends to cause. Including education into alternatives. So that any kid that takes up drugs has no excuse but their own brainless stupidity.

  106. Maj

    Maybe Qantas could go back to the good old days of segregated flights, the smokers and non-smokers seating arrangements.

    The non-vaccinated get seated at the front of the plane, those who take the jab sit at the back.

    That’s fair, sheeples down the back

  107. Leigh Lowe

    If you believe a vaccine to be highly effective and are happy to have it, why do you care if the person next to you on the plane is un-vaxxed?

  108. Dot

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3670479, posted on November 25, 2020 at 1:09 pm
    Dot – Sure, as long as they pay the medical costs of their addiction themselves. I don’t want to pay for it. And any legal compensation to victims they may assault, defraud, steal from or otherwise harm. I don’t want to pay for that either. Plus the schools should have big time drugs education, with emphasis on the harm and the penurization and social anathemization drug addiction tends to cause. Including education into alternatives. So that any kid that takes up drugs has no excuse but their own brainless stupidity.

    Which is all cheaper if it is legal.

  109. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3670297, posted on November 25, 2020 at 10:58 am

    ‘The other place’.

    Not that I’ve tried, but yeah, it seems like only The Approved may comment. The number of The Approved appears to be three.

    Quite so. I chose not to go over and i.d. myself for the sake of making a comment which no-one reads.
    From memory, when I looked a while back, one of the trio (Faulty or St Ruth?) was suggesting the furniture shop didn’t need all Cats coming over there. They would have to be selective. It seems the assumption was that they would be knocked over in the rush of blog traffic.
    Be careful what you wish for.
    .

    Or – or, nobody else cares enough.

    Nooooo!
    Surely not!

  110. woolfe

    Mikhaila Peterson
    @MikhailaAleksis

    “… staff CRIED and expressed dismay with the decision to publish ‘Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life.’”

    How to improve business in 2 steps:
    Step 1: identify crying adults
    Step 2: fire

    Penguin Staff Confront Publisher About New Jordan Peterson Book –

  111. thefrollickingmole

    Awesome…
    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stephen-kruiser/2020/11/23/of-course-doctors-want-us-to-know-that-the-covid-19-vaccine-side-effects-could-be-awful-n1168824
    “We really need to make patients aware that this is not going to be a walk in the park,” Fryhofer said during a virtual meeting with the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, or ACIP, an outside group of medical experts that advise the CDC. She is also a liaison to the committee. “They are going to know they had a vaccine. They are probably not going to feel wonderful. But they’ve got to come back for that second dose.”

    Participants in Moderna and Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine trials told CNBC in September that they were experiencing high fever, body aches, bad headaches, daylong exhaustion and other symptoms after receiving the shots. While the symptoms were uncomfortable, and at times intense, the participants said they often went away after a day, sometimes sooner, and that it was better than getting Covid-19.

    Both companies acknowledged that their vaccines could induce side effects that are similar to symptoms associated with mild Covid-19, such as muscle pain, chills and headache.

  112. Infidel Tiger King

    If you believe a vaccine to be highly effective and are happy to have it, why do you care if the person next to you on the plane is un-vaxxed?

    Exactly.

    And if you are logical you would also know there is zero point a healthy person taking a vaccine for a virus with 99.98% survivability rates.

    What an insane time to be alive. Pretty sad to know that the world as we know it is all downhill from here.

  113. pete m

    Fat Bastard lost again in qld supreme court overturning an ex parte order he got in august to enforce 2 old arbitration decisions

    Judgement though quite rightly points out the extraordinary provisions of the get rid of this issue laws passed in wa being akin to salting the earth etc and without deciding this reading between lines wondering how on earth it could be valid.

    Off to the high court now for the challenge to that law

    Palmer had 2 awards on his favour since 2014 so it is weird nothing was done earlier to enforce them

  114. thefrollickingmole

    Wang imagines anyone clicks on his one sentence link posts.

    Sad.
    Low energy.
    Dotard.
    Believe me.
    Many such cases.

  115. Food insecurity is becoming a major issue across the Pacific.
    These figures are pre-pandemic.
    It’s much worse now.

    As you might imagine, hunger is a problem that most often affects children from low-income families. A common way we measure poverty is the federal poverty level, a number set by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. The federal poverty level is the minimum amount of money a family needs each year to afford the necessities of life: food, clothing, shelter, and transportation.

    In 2018, the federal poverty level was $25,750 for a family of four. Of course, this number is a minimum. Families making twice that much are still considered low-income by most experts, and many struggle to make ends meet.

    How many Americans live in poverty? Over 38 million, or 12% of all Americans, according to 2018 data from the U.S. Census Bureau. 15 million of those were children.

    The are the most up-to-date figures, but we know that the coronavirus has had a devastating impact on the American economy and the reality is that far more Americans – including children – are facing hunger and poverty today.

  116. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    RIP Christophe

    Sacré bleu! 🙁 🐔 🏉

  117. Bruce in WA

    Now this is embarrassing…

    Stefanovic deserves anything and everything that happens to him. Vile person.

  118. If you believe a vaccine to be highly effective and are happy to have it, why do you care if the person next to you on the plane is un-vaxxed?

    You’d care if you were cabin crew.

  119. Wang imagines anyone clicks on his one sentence link posts.

    Bruce in WA did.😆

  120. thefrollickingmole

    Bruce in WA did.😆

    Dotard excited one person clicked on its post.

    The thrill of chewing metamucil and playing hide and seek with itself pales into comparison.

  121. Mark from Melbourne

    You’d care if you were cabin crew.

    Why would you?

    If you are vaccinated, why would it matter?

  122. Leigh Lowe

    Spurgeon Monkfish III

    #3670513, posted on November 25, 2020 at 1:52 pm

    RIP Christophe

    Sacré bleu!   

    Just watched highlights of the Frogs vs All Blecks RWC match from 1999.
    Brilliant.
    Compared to the tripe served up on Saturday night it was magic.

  123. H B Bear

    Does NamBob have a blog like that weirdo Steve from Brisbane? One reader would have got him very excited. Probably steam up the windows of the hermetically sealed Miata.

  124. woolfe

    New Jordan Peterson book, Beyond Order to be released March next year.

  125. The Countess

    I’ve heard from a researcher that whenever scientists have developed a vaccine for the coronavirus family in animals, it can appear to work, until the animal encounters another coronavirus. At that point they develop serious illness including sepsis and they die. Does this sound either right or plausible? Has this vaccine been tested on animals or did they go straight to human trials?

  126. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘the reality is that far more Americans – including children – are facing hunger and poverty today.’

    Probably a supply chain issue.

    If not, try locking them in cages. The Obama Hope and Change model.

  127. C.L.

    Now this is embarrassing.

    Yes it is.

    And it highlights what sort of country we’ve become. A chummy media/political elite give out their phone numbers to one another while regarding the general public as vermin to be manipulated and scolded.

  128. C.L.

    Beyond Order: 12 More Rules For Life

    Give it a rest, Jordan, FFS.
    He’s the Peter FitzSimons of navel-gazing.

  129. Robber Baron

    All medical personnel need to be vaccinated first.

    I think all the teachers need to be vaccinated second so they can go back to teaching in the classroom and feel safe from catching the plague from students.

    The third batch needs to go to police and emergency services.

    The fourth batch needs to go to all public servants so they can work from their offices and not their homes. Important government work cannot be done at home.

    The last people that need vaccination are the capitalist small business Kulaks because their businesses are non-essential.

    You know this makes sense on many levels.

  130. jupes

    Beyond Order: 12 More Rules For Life

    Didn’t he try and top himself?

  131. Infidel Tiger King

    Beyond Order: 12 More Rules For Life

    He’s going to Fast & Furious those books isn’t he?

  132. Runnybum

    I want the politicians & their families given the vaccine on live TV, no placebo I want checked & verified full monty the real vaccine & they must sign a waiver that they will never attempt to sue the pharma companies even as us plebs are not allowed to.
    I won’t be coerced into having this jab, anyone remember my body my choice?
    Anyone wanting this is up to them.
    Notaclue can have mine for ‘free’.

  133. Struth

    You’d care if you were cabin crew.

    Why would you?

    If you are vaccinated, why would it matter?

    Th lack of reasoning and hysterical responses by some here is amazing to witness, and not good to be amongst for too long.
    Accept tyranny , trade your freedoms to be “allowed” to do things as if that would work out.
    First you have the absolute insanity of Notafan’s love of tyranny…”If you don’t like it, don’t fly” routine.
    We are used to her subservience to government. It’s a given.
    Stated as if you have a choice, and then, although perfectly capable in 2019 to work out a Vaccine is not a cure, it’s a vaccine, 2020 insanity forbids rational thought as there is no reason on earth to make self protection compulsory for the sake of other people WHO CAN THEMSELVES BE VACCINATED.
    Those worried have a vaccine, those that aren’t take their chances.
    Unless permission to travel is the ultimate goal, and then later permission to do anything with digital tyrannical efficiency, there has never been a reason to make the flu vaccines compulsory to fly, and they never have in the past……..
    Look at the pure insanity of numbers.
    He believes the cabin crew are in danger if the passenger is not vaccinated.
    You couldn’t make this shit up.
    It’s a vaccination, a gas lighting Placebo anyway, but nonetheless a Vaccination.
    Answer me this question.
    If you catch the virus, are you contagious while the vaccination fights off the virus?
    Is the virus on your person until it is destroyed?
    Your breath, your hands, etc?
    Maybe on your luggage?
    Freight carried.
    FFS!

    If your good vaccinated self picks it up on your hands in the airport and then you take your good vaccinated self into the plane once the government have permitted your travel, and place it onto the door of the plane dunny handle, has your vaccination saved anyone else from contracting it on the plane?

    So what is the real purpose of this?
    When a vaccinated person can still carry a virus on their person and gear?

  134. H B Bear

    Didn’t he try and top himself?

    I don’t think that was one of the rules.

  135. Runnybum

    Struth the purpose of this whole scamdemic is about control always has been.
    Look at how quick people just cowered & still are.
    There is absolutely no reply to this coercion, the media have got the people of Australia totally into the hype.
    This country like most western countries are stuffed…history repeats.

  136. Old School Conservative

    woolfe
    #3670325, posted on November 25, 2020 at 11:21 am
    RIP Chrisophe

    Thanks for the link woolfe.

  137. Struth

    History does repeat, and although studied, living now through similar developments to the insanities of 1930’s Germany and other tyrannical histories, living it is still a shock to witness.

  138. Runnybum

    To scare the crap out of me is we just voted for more of this BS here in Queensland.
    Australia is done.

  139. Mark from Melbourne

    No, History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes, as Twain is alleged to have said.

    And yes, it is a shock to witness.

  140. Zyconoclast

    If this was and Australian dog it would be facing investigation for war crimes.

    Injured military dog Kuno given ‘animal Victoria cross’

  141. Dr Faustus

    The Leader of the Opposition (somebody Crean?) gets onto the front foot,and in amongst the things that really matter to Australians.

    A New Dawn.

  142. notafan

    Anyone who doesn’t agrre with my 1000 word footstampie upper case yellie diatribes is hysterical and unable to reason.

  143. notafan

    the ‘survivability’ rates even for over 80s includes asymptomatic and no doubt false positives.

    I think things can get quite hairy if you actually get sick.

    I don’t much care for compulsion but if the risk of being vaccinated for covid is about the same as risk for flu etc ill happily have.

    Im not worried about being microchipped by Bill Gated and that Jane Sheila or whoever is current ppster child for the evil empire.

  144. notafan

    I don’t care if anyone else is unvaccinated if I’m vaccinated.

    Why would I be unless they are sick sitting next to me on the plane.

    That would be annoying.

  145. Megan

    There are other airlines apart from Qantas. I’ll be choosing the ones who aren’t demanding I be vaccinated.

  146. MatrixTransform

    if you want yr assets safe and productive it is best that all livestock get a good drenching on schedule.

  147. jo

    Dr Faustus
    #3670618, posted on November 25, 2020 at 3:36 pm

    The Leader of the Opposition (somebody Crean?) gets onto the front foot,and in amongst the things that really matter to Australians.

    A New Dawn.

    That was hilarious. Never seen it before, never to see it again. Victoria “I’m so proud of you”. No ChinkFlu. What a waste of space. I’m sitting here shaking my head. 1/3 of the country vote for these morons. The LNP are not much better.

  148. Dr Faustus

    Labor’s innovation spokeswoman says immigration changes are needed to allow more skilled permanent migrants into the country to boost manufacturing, science and technology.

    Not immediately clear how importing skilled migrants actually boosts manufacturing, science and technology. In my experience, you start with a project and then bring in people to execute it as needed – rather than start with a bunch of skilled people and then try to find something to do with them.

    But then:

    Ms O’Neil, who was touted as a deputy Labor leader after the election before withdrawing, criticised the idea that every MP wanted to reach their party’s top job.

    Producing broad reaching policy brainfarts is a proven way to boost exposure for the ambitious.

  149. Cassie of Sydney

    This is a good read…albeit a depressing one. It is by George Neumayr who is a friend of George Pell…

    https://spectator.org/biden-administration-progressive/

    The swamp is back…big time.

  150. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    https://spectator.org/biden-administration-progressive/

    crooks, spivs , marxists and other demon spawn from hell

  151. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    History does repeat, and although studied, living now through similar developments to the insanities of 1930’s Germany and other tyrannical histories, living it is still a shock to witness.

    too many sheeple and rabbitles, independent thought is strongly discouraged in schools these days

  152. Cassie of Sydney

    “Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #3670649, posted on November 25, 2020 at 4:21 pm
    https://spectator.org/biden-administration-progressive/

    crooks, spivs , marxists and other demon spawn from hell”

    It’s a nightmare.

  153. Bruce of Newcastle

    Arky’s model A videos will be deep sixed very soon.

    YouTube Suspends Pro-Trump News Network OANN, Completely Demonetizes Channel Over Unlisted Video (24 Nov)

    Model A videos could kill the planet.

  154. incoherent rambler

    living now through similar developments to the insanities of 1930’s Germany and other tyrannical histories, living it is still a shock to witness.

    late 20s as well

    Now we just need a forceful leader* to take control away from the ruling cretins and everything will be fine.

    * like Adolph or Joe or (more modern) Dan.

    I also recall that many Frogs welcomed Adolph because “at least he is doing something

  155. Dr Faustus

    Zippy @4:21pm:

    “documents seized in the raid that killed Osama bin Laden included an unexpected insult: bin Laden had advised assassins to spare Biden and target Obama, telling them, ‘Biden is totally unprepared for that post, which will lead the U.S. into a crisis.’ ”

  156. Colonel Crispin Berka

    AXIOS: President Trump tells confidants he plans to pardon ⁦Gen Flynn

    Some fucking confidant. More leaks than an Atlanta water main.

  157. Mark A

    Struth
    #3670572, posted on November 25, 2020 at 2:42 pm

    Struth, I’m loath to buy into this argument, spec. as this field had been plowed over many times, BUT you are perfectly right on this one.
    Sadly😥

  158. notafan

    might be paywalled at smh

  159. JC

    Oh look who wants a gun

    Apple Security Chief Offered iPads to Police as a Bribe for Gun Permits, Prosecutors Allege
    Thomas Moyer denies allegations that he agreed to give the Santa Clara County Sheriff’s Office 200 iPads in exchange for four concealed carry licenses for Apple employees

  160. bespoke

    JC
    #3670366, posted on November 25, 2020 at 11:49 am
    The twists and turns by some people here is incredible. Trump, through warp speed, managed to get the vax made in literally warp speed. It was a magnificent government effort. And you now have some Trump supporters speaking conspiratorially against the vax.

    Indeed.

  161. Mother Lode

    Thomas Moyer denies allegations that he agreed to give the Santa Clara County Sheriff’s Office 200 iPads in exchange for four concealed carry licenses for Apple employees

    Are concealed carry licenses that expensive?

    Or were there reasons to believe the sheriff might not issue them? Either because of the proposed license holders history, or that the justification offered would have been inadequate?

  162. Leigh Lowe

    JC
    #3670366, posted on November 25, 2020 at 11:49 am
    The twists and turns by some people here is incredible. Trump, through warp speed, managed to get the vax made in literally warp speed. It was a magnificent government effort. And you now have some Trump supporters speaking conspiratorially against the vax.

    Yes.
    Jolly awkward that, what?

  163. jo

    “at least he is doing something“

    Nero fiddled whist Rome burned. At least he was doing something. When the revolution comes I will be doing something. Taking out the trash.

  164. MatrixTransform

    And you now have some Trump supporters speaking conspiratorially against the vax

    well.
    about the drenching
    was actually meant to be metaphorical

    … or sarcastic ( I can’t tell the difference anymore )

  165. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oh look who wants a gun

    Amazing how lefties behave when the Left does things like actually defund the police.
    Santa Clara County? Betcha he also moves to Texas or Florida very soon.

    California Exodus: Silicon Valley Legend Keith Rabois Leaving ‘Massively Improperly Run’ San Francisco (23 Nov)

    Silicon Valley tech legend Keith Rabois is leaving San Francisco and “moving immediately” to Florida, adding to the list of tech heavyweights who have left the Bay Area.

    “I think San Francisco is just so massively improperly run and managed that it’s impossible to stay here,” said Rabois, an early executive at PayPal, Square, Linkedin, Yelp who has been a Bay Area resident of two decades, telling Forbes that many in his social circles are leaving as well.

    How odd that when lefties vote in policies that lefties love the lefties suddenly decide to move to somewhere that is run by Republicans.

  166. MatrixTransform

    This whole its-ok-to-cheat-for-a-good-cause-thing

    it has me bothered.

    back in the 90’s when the recession-we-had-to-have chewed my arse, there was a new spate of tv and radio ads that flourished.

    I called them bastard-ads
    you know, where they started to normalise being a complete cvnt to other people like it was a virtue

    this time, I fear, we are going there harder ‘n faster

  167. Maj

    JC
    #3670366, posted on November 25, 2020 at 11:49 am
    The twists and turns by some people here is incredible. Trump, through warp speed, managed to get the vax made in literally warp speed. It was a magnificent government effort. And you now have some Trump supporters speaking conspiratorially against the vax.

    Yes.
    Jolly awkward that, what?

    I support Donald Trump:

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

    Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn’t feel good and changes – AUTISM. Many such cases!

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/449525268529815552

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

    I am being proven right about massive vaccinations—the doctors lied. Save our children & their future.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/507158574670573568

    He was right then and is right now.

    If it seems like President Trump has changed, he hasn’t.

    I think this is all part of the Plan to expose the Big Pharma pillar of the Deep State.

  168. thefrollickingmole

    A small shaft of joy in the day today, brought about by, of all things, an ABC interview.

    Only caught a bit, and about 2 minutes in I was saying to myself “who is this prize knob jockey”.
    Then he was waffling about how lovely it was whenever he was interviewed by the Guardian/ABC hed receive “so many lovely comments”.
    Then he mentioned how he “made the mistake of reading the comments at the bottom of the article in the Australian” and how mean and hurtful they were and they kept saying nasty things because of his “come back George Pell” song when hes done so much more than that.

    So id like to thank anyone who got a comment on Tim “Theres not a cock i cant ride” Minchins Australian article, you gave him a sad…

  169. MatrixTransform

    Tim Minchin == Numpty with musicality

    melodic whinge instead of just whinge

  170. Roger

    Then he mentioned how he “made the mistake of reading the comments at the bottom of the article in the Australian” and how mean and hurtful they were and they kept saying nasty things because of his “come back George Pell” song when hes done so much more than that.

    One of those artists who’ll be remembered – if at all – more for his failures than his successes.

    How many years was he hanging about in Hollywood before Dreamworks canned his project?

  171. Dot

    I think this is all part of the Plan to expose the Big Pharma pillar of the Deep State

    Fuck off Maj. No one believes your fake Hillsong paranoid BS.

  172. thefrollickingmole

    Im sure this wont stink on ice.
    https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2020/nov/25/national-gallery-of-victoria-reaps-reward-from-daniel-andrews-14bn-cultural-precinct-splurge

    The National Gallery of Victoria has secured funding from the Andrews government to go ahead with its proposal to build Australia’s largest gallery of contemporary art, design, fashion and architecture.

    The funding, announced in Tuesday’s budget, is part of $1.4bn in 2020-21 to revamp Melbourne’s Southbank arts precinct, encompassing the existing NGV International, the Arts Centre Melbourne and a new 18,000 sq metre public garden.

    The premier, Daniel Andrews, said the Melbourne arts precinct transformation would be “the biggest cultural infrastructure project* ever undertaken in Australia”.

    Neither the state government nor the NGV would say on Wednesday what proportion of the billion-dollar funding would go specifically to NGV Contemporary, which will be built behind the existing NGV International on Southbank Boulevard.

    Upon completion, the gallery will span more than 30,000 sq metres.

    A design competition will be launched before the end of the year to determine the architectural team, limited to Australian applicants only.
    The NGV director, Tony Ellwood, described the state government’s commitment to NGV Contemporary, which had been on the cards since 2018, as “extraordinary”.

    “NGV Contemporary will form an intrinsic part of Melbourne’s creative and cultural identity, a universal civic space where visitors can gather, socialise, learn and interpret our world through a year-round presentation of exhibitions and programs that reflect contemporary life and culture,” he said in a statement on Wednesday.

    “NGV Contemporary will be a dynamic cultural hub that all Victorians will be proud to call their own and present an unrivalled opportunity to showcase Australian and international art, design and architectural practice to the world.”

    NGV Contemporary’s larger gallery spaces will afford more scope for the recurring NGV Triennial series, major ticketed blockbuster exhibitions and major solo exhibitions.

    * Sir Les it turning in his grave that he never thought up such a piece of verbiage.

  173. Zyconoclast

    DPS Crew Discovers Mysterious Monolith From Air In Remote Utah Wilderness

    SALT LAKE CITY, Utah – The Utah Department of Public Safety helicopter was assisting Utah Division of Wildlife Resource officers counting bighorn sheep when the crew spotted something mysterious from above.

    The discovery was made Wednesday.

    “One of the biologists is the one who spotted it and we just happened to fly directly over the top of it,” said pilot Bret Hutchings. “He was like, ‘Whoa, whoa, whoa, turn around, turn around!’ And I was like, ‘what.’ And he’s like, ‘There’s this thing back there – we’ve got to go look at it!’”

    The crew circled back and landed the helicopter to take a closer look. They couldn’t believe their eyes.

    Tucked in a red rock cove was a shiny metal monolith protruding from the ground.

    “I’d say it’s probably between 10 and 12 feet-high,” Hutchings said. “We were kind of joking around that if one of us suddenly disappears, then the rest of us make a run for it.”

    Hutchings said it didn’t look like it was dropped into the ground from above. It was firmly planted there.

    “We were, like, thinking is this something NASA stuck up there or something. Are they bouncing satellites off it or something?” Hutchings questioned.

  174. Ed Case

    Ann Coulter says Trump losing was the best result.
    Basically, he was only the 4th President in 108 years to lose reelection, and he lost to
    a demented geriatric on his fourth run for the job. https://www.thechronicleherald.ca/news/canada/ann-coulter-blames-wonderboy-jared-kushner-for-trumps-2020-election-defeat-521778/

  175. notafan

    Haven’t been there for decades.

    Not interested in woke art.

  176. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Tucked in a red rock cove was a shiny metal monolith protruding from the ground.

    ‘“I’d say it’s probably between 10 and 12 feet-high,” Hutchings said. “We were kind of joking around that if one of us suddenly disappears, then the rest of us make a run for it.”

    ‘Hutchings said it didn’t look like it was dropped into the ground from above. It was firmly planted there.’

    Anne – what say you?

  177. Bruce of Newcastle

    No one believes your fake Hillsong paranoid BS.

    Behave Dot.
    Pfizer accidentally-like announced their vaccine a week after the election then went and talked with Biden’s fake transition team. It stank.
    Beating up on Christians of whatever ilk also stinks.

  178. thefrollickingmole

    Newest “hot take from the mongs in leftyland.

    I cant even be fagged to link.

    Trump’s coup failed – but US democracy has been given a scare
    The president pulled every lever to stay in power. It didn’t work, but how would the US handle a closer election?

  179. Maj

    your fake Hillsong paranoid BS

    Puh-lease!! I am neither Hillsong nor “fake Hillsong”. I posted up a video critical of Hillsong’s celebrity pastor problem (#3669945, posted on November 24, 2020 at 9:58 pm)

    Try again, Dot

  180. bespoke

    Beating up on Christians of whatever ilk also stinks

    Not all denominations are equal.

  181. Bruce of Newcastle

    ‘Tucked in a red rock cove was a shiny metal monolith protruding from the ground.

    Saw that story this morning. Fun! Nice to see someone with money has a sense of humour.
    Who knew that aliens would use 304 stainless?
    Kubrick’s ones were a much nicer blackish black, like solid graphite.
    At least it isn’t made of cobalt thorium G.

  182. Maj

    Ann Coulter says Trump losing was the best result.
    Basically, he was only the 4th President in 108 years to lose reelection, and he lost to
    a demented geriatric on his fourth run for the job. https://www.thechronicleherald.ca/news/canada/ann-coulter-blames-wonderboy-jared-kushner-for-trumps-2020-election-defeat-521778/

    I guess Ann didn’t want the Wall finished after all..

  183. Tintarella di Luna

    Silicon Valley tech legend Keith Rabois is leaving San Francisco and “moving immediately” to Florida, adding to the list of tech heavyweights who have left the Bay Area.

    He should be forced to return to California to vote and be prevented from ever voting in Florida that’s what these Leftist arsehats do — they fill their nest with crap and then move on to crap in someone else’s nest.

  184. Tintarella di Luna

    Ann Coulter says Trump losing was the best result.

    what a dipstick

  185. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Terrorist prisoner Abdul Nacer Benbrika has Australian citizenship cancelled

    Some comments about a wife and seven children?

  186. bespoke

    Ann Coulter is a grifter who thought she should be first lady.

  187. Bruce of Newcastle

    Ann Coulter hasn’t had a good year.
    If she thinks Jared was the problem she needs a talking to.
    Try looking at the Democrats Ms Coulter.
    And the elite oligarchy.

  188. Cassie of Sydney

    “Tintarella di Luna
    #3670827, posted on November 25, 2020 at 6:49 pm
    Ann Coulter says Trump losing was the best result.

    what a dipstick”

    Worse…the problem with Coutler is that it is either her way or no way. Plus she hobnobs with the far-right.

  189. Cassie of Sydney

    “Ann Coulter hasn’t had a good year.
    If she thinks Jared was the problem she needs a talking to.”

    She’s blaming the Jooo…it suits her world view.

  190. Tintarella di Luna

    Ann Coulter is a grifter who thought she should be first lady.

    She dumped on Trump and that was not a good move.

  191. Tintarella di Luna

    “Ann Coulter hasn’t had a good year.
    If she thinks Jared was the problem she needs a talking to.”

    She’s blaming the Jooo…it suits her world view.

    . Me thinks she’s a bit of a bigot notwithstanding her schutzpah

  192. Top Ender

    Meanwhile in the Outback…

    A woman who bashed her husband in the head with a rock and later stabbed his girlfriend seven times in the back, shoulder and head – including severing an artery – while she was sitting on a mattress with the man, and who was later sentenced to jail for assaulting her again, has had her latest jail sentence suspended after eight months.

    Elvina Beasley, 22, of Ali Curung, was sentenced in the Northern Territory Supreme Court on November 13, after pleading guilty to one count of aggravated assault against her husband on August 23 last year – which carried a maximum penalty of five years in jail – and one count of unlawfully causing serious harm for the multiple stabbing later the same night – which carried a 14-year maximum penalty.

    Justice Kelly said that on the night of the offences, Beasley and her husband, referred to as ZM, were drinking at a party in a Tennant Creek flat. Beasley turned up and started drinking too. She said ZM left soon after, and Beasley followed, walking behind him, before getting angry at him and picking up a rock and hitting him in the head four times, causing him to bleed.

    “ZM ran away to a park. He saw a police car and told the police that you had hit him,” Justice Kelly said.

    She said he was taken by ambulance to the Tennant Creek Hospital, where the cuts to his head were treated with staples and glue.

    After being treated at the hospital, ZM walked to the Faye Lewis bar, and he stayed there with Beasley until closing.

    About 12:20am on August 24, police arrested them for breaching a domestic violence order, and Beasley was also arrested for the aggravated assault.

    ZM was later released after witnesses told police ZM and Beasley came into each other’s company to break up a fight between family members.

    Justice Kelly said after he was released from custody, ZM was walking to his cousin’s house while meeting up with his friend or girlfriend, called SJ – who was also drunk – on the way, and they walked there together.

    Beasley and SJ had known each other since childhood, the judge said.

    She said Beasley was released about 2:20am with a domestic violence order, naming ZM as the protected person. Police took her to her cousin’s house but as soon as they left, she went to another house where ZM and SJ were asleep on a mattress.

    “You yelled at SJ. You threatened her and told her to get up and fight,” Justice Kelly said. “She was too tired to get up, and so she stayed on the mattress, sitting down.

    “You left the room and came back with a knife, and you stabbed SJ in the back seven times with the knife. ZM got up and chased you out of the house, and he and another man took SJ to the Tennant Creek Hospital. She had six cuts on her upper back, one cut on her left upper shoulder and one cut on her head.

    Justice Kelly said the victim was flown to Alice Springs Hospital for surgery.

    “Those wounds amounted to serious harm. There was a chance that she might have died of those injuries,” she said.

    “In particular, the left shoulder. There was an artery in the left shoulder which was bleeding, and she could have bled to death from that if she had not been treated.”

    Justice Kelly said Beasley left the unit and police could not find her that night, not arresting her until December 4.

    She said that at the time Beasley committed the two offences, she had no criminal history.

    Beasley was born in Ali Curung but was mostly raised by her maternal grandmother and went to primary school at Alekarenge School in Ali Curung, and high school up to Year 10 at St John’s College in Darwin.

    Justice Kelly said she had worked between 2013 and 2018 in different jobs and as a carer for her mother and grandmother in Ali Curung from 2018 to 2020

    She had also been receiving counselling while she was in prison for post-traumatic stress disorder caused by being beaten by ZM.

    Justice Kelly said the five year marriage was happy until ZM stopped working 12 months ago, and started drinking more, and then started inflicting violence on Beasley.

    He was sentenced to 15 months’ jail for assaulting her with a picket, causing a head wound that required staples to treat.

    “It does seem that you started drinking too. And clearly, alcohol played a big part in leading you to commit these offences,” Justice Kelly said.

    The judge said Beasley’s actions were serious offences, but she accepted there was considerable provocation when Beasley saw her husband in bed with SJ.

    “That does not take away the criminal nature of your conduct,” she said. “But it does somewhat decrease your moral culpability.”

    Justice Kelly said the sentence needed to send a strong message that the court and the community condemned that kind of violence, more so for discouraging others, less for dissuading Beasley, who she said did not have a history of violence, had a good history of employment, and had taken active steps towards rehabilitation – completing the Kunga Stopping Violence Program in prison, and being accepted into their 12-month program on release.

    Justice Kelly said Beasley intended to get more counselling for her domestic violence trauma.

    “You did not show immediate remorse. No doubt, you were very angry at the time,” she said. “And you were not remorseful for quite a while. In fact, you later assaulted SJ again.

    “You pleaded guilty to aggravated assault and you received a prison sentence for that. However, I am satisfied that now, having had time to reflect, you are genuinely sorry for the injuries that you inflicted on her and for the assault on ZM.”

    Justice Kelly sentenced her for nine months jail for the first offence and two years and three months for count two, with count one to be served partly concurrently, and with three months to be served cumulatively, for a total sentence of two and half years jail.

    Because Beasley spent eight months on remand the rest of the sentence was suspended with a two year good behaviour period.

    NT Independent

  193. Infidel Tiger King

    Coulter gets rich being provocative and being in opposition.

    She’s a grifter.

  194. Cassie of Sydney

    “. Me thinks she’s a bit of a bigot notwithstanding her schutzpah”

    Yep.

  195. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Basically, he was only the 4th President in 108 years to lose reelection, and he lost to

    except he hasn’t

  196. 2dogs

    This is the reason on the supply side why we will see so much inflation after the COVID restrictions are lifted.

    People (and other resources) will keep their new jobs. When the old jobs come back, they will find they need to compete for the people and resources they had lost. Eventually, some of the old business processes won’t come back because they won’t be able to afford the new cost of their old resources. At the end of it all, there will have been a restructuring, and it the inflation will drive it.

    There is the demand side to it, of course, and that will be occurring because all of that deficit spending governments have been making will need to go somewhere. It is currently locked up in the wealth of households that have kept their jobs (or in the case of companies like Amazon made even more money), and it will come flooding out as soon as it is allowed to be spent.

  197. thefrollickingmole

    Sneakers is so jealous of Dan of the dead.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-25/safe-wa-mandatory-contact-register-to-be-launched-for-businesses/12903504

    WA venues to adopt mandatory contact register from December 5 amid coronavirus risk

    Im sure privacy/’uman rites mobs will be all over this imposition…

  198. Bruce of Newcastle

    Some good Cafe Bruce action just now. The female koel turned up for breakfast and dinner today, happily accepting food from the hand of the head waiter. Always a miracle that a critter like her could fly all the way to PNG for winter then remember an obscure cafe in suburbia next spring. Alas she didn’t like the camera though, so all I got was a relatively distant shot (~3 m). I’m not sure which she disliked more, the camera or my rather rough around the edges arm-cockatoo, who was also lurking. I call her Fluffy because fluffy.

  199. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Bruce, one of the Currawong fledglings got into strife this afternoon. He swooped onto the terrace to peck at some bits that the bothersome Lorikeet crew had dumped all over the floor, learning as he is to peck at things doing a little ground walking. Banned Attapuss was no problem, but the old glass balustrade on the terrace was the issue, because the poor little thing was trying to fly away through it. I had to get a broom and gently pressure him up and over the top of the balustrade, which sticks out quite a bit and forms the current feeding platform. He was squawking and clawing and flapping around, so I had to keep pushing the broom up to get him to the platform. Hope it didn’t squash him too much. He flew off in high dudgeon, but I notice he’s back now with the rest of them, and not injured.

  200. Albatross

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #3670887, posted on November 25, 2020 at 7:24 pm
    ‘Happy coexistence:’ Scott Morrison offers China an olive branch in London speech
    fck that, boycott the bastards

    What are we going to do, fight them with our military? Lol.

  201. Bruce of Newcastle

    … he was taken by ambulance to the Tennant Creek Hospital, where the cuts to his head were treated with staples and glue. After being treated at the hospital, ZM walked to the Faye Lewis bar, and he stayed there with Beasley until closing.

    They sure have staying power in Tennant Creek. Just gimme some staples and glue Doc so I can go back to the bar.

    Having had 3 months work in Warrego forty years ago I can say nothing appears to’ve changed.

  202. vlad

    back in the 90’s when the recession-we-had-to-have chewed my arse, there was a new spate of tv and radio ads that flourished.

    I called them bastard-ads

    Like what? For what?

    I was still watching television in those days, so I’d probably remember them if prompted.

  203. Maj

    The Wee Flea on Armenia:

    The whole situation is not resolved and indeed is very dangerous. Erdogan has been emboldened by his success. Turkish newspapers speak of ‘victory in the Caucasus’ and how, for the first time since the Ottoman Empire, the Turks have been able to free ‘Mooslim’ lands from the ‘infidels’.

    The Turkish Parliament voted to let Erdogan send Turkish forces to Azerbaijan after the ceasefire. There are reports that Erdogan is sending families from the areas of Syria that Turkey has occupied, in order to populate the conquered areas of Nagorno-Karabakh – where the local population have fled. Even more destabilising is that Erdogan has already said that he wants to use his Mooslim Brotherhood militias to ‘liberate’ more Mooslim lands such as Dagestan, Chechnya and to wipe out Armenia and replace it with the Iravan Khanate.

  204. kaysee

    Twitter will now warn users if they try to like a ‘misleading’ tweet

    Twitter is doubling down on stopping the spread of misinformation following the US Presidential election, adding even more hurdles to stop misleading tweets from going viral.

    The social network said Tuesday that it would begin taking users who attempt to hit the like button on a flagged tweet to a screen informing them that the contents of the tweet are disputed.

  205. Bruce of Newcastle

    Lizzie – That’s the finest entertainment of this hobby…the kids get themselves into all sorts of drama then magically find ways out of it!

    Last night brushtail arrived with kid, for the first time in about a fortnight. I opened the door to find mum in the camellia and kid clinging on to the corner of my house. For whatever reason the kid (a she I think) decided to jump on to a corner of fibro cladding and hang onto it…because. Mum seemed quite concerned so I dived back into house and grabbed an old towel to throw over my arm, hoping to coax kid to come down on it. Whereupon she saw evil threatening towel and leapt off the wall onto the camellia branch next to mum. Such is the dexterity of the young.

    They then had some bread and a carrot and left. It was a fine thing.

  206. 2dogs

    This is the reason on the supply side why we will see so much inflation after the COVID restrictions are lifted.

    People (and other resources) will keep their new jobs. When the old jobs come back, they will find they need to compete for the people and resources they had lost. Eventually, some of the old business processes won’t come back because they won’t be able to afford the new cost of their old resources. At the end of it all, there will have been a restructuring, and it the inflation will drive it.

  207. 2dogs

    Twitter is doubling down on stopping the spread of misinformation

    At some point we will need an Australian to sue Twitter for defamation because one of their tweets was marked as misinformation.

    (The comity of nations can take precedence over the first amendment, but US courts will generally only permit this for good US allies such as Australia).

  208. Bruce of Newcastle

    Lizzie – You are doing something I never have been able to. I haven’t had any currawong nests nearby, the area isn’t right for them. So I only see the young ones well after they’re getting to be independent. When they turn up, usually in January or so, they are wonderfully curious and innocent birdies. I like currawong kids a lot.

    On other such things the kookas are still doing shifts in the nest box, and an eggshell appeared on the ground below it yesterday. It would be a fine thing to have kooka chicks at Cafe Bruce in 2020. It’s been a year of angst so a bright spot is surely due.

  209. cohenite

    Someone posted this the other day but have a gander of this list of protestors who held up a plane to drag off illegal immigrants who had committed sex offences, assaults and murder; this is typical; everyone of them completely fucking useless:

    Nathan Clack, 30. Born in Newcastle but now a London activist.

    Edward Thacker, 29. The son of a West End theatre director.

    Benjamin Smoke, 27. A freelance journalist.

    Nicholas Sigsworth, 29. Electronic musician with the stage name Klaus.

    Helen Brewer, 29. A London artist and film-maker.

    Emma Hughes, 38. Member of Switched On London, an energy campaign group.

    May MacKeith, 33. From an activist family that leads immigration protests.

    Jyotsna Ram, 33. Holds a PhD in planning and sustainable design.

    Joseph McGahan, 35. The co-founder of Hempden, a hemp and CBD company.

    Ruth Potts, 44. A lecturer in alternative economics and an anarchist baker.

    Lyndsay Burtonshaw, 28. Works for Quakers In Britain.

    Alistair Tamlit, 30. Member of Plane Stupid, a climate campaign group.

    Laura Clayson, 28. Previously arrested for protesting against fracking.

    Melanie Evans, 35. A climate activist.

    Not pictured: Melanie Strickland, 35. A solicitor who was part of a 2006 Heathrow protest.

  210. kaysee

    At some point we will need an Australian to sue Twitter for defamation because one of their tweets was marked as misinformation.

    Sue and ban?

    After Criticisms, the Solomon Islands Proposes Facebook Ban

    If enacted, the ban would see the democratic South Pacific nation follow Nauru, Iran, North Korea, and China as the only nations to have prohibited access to the giant social media network.

  211. Cassie of Sydney

    “and an anarchist baker”

    What on earth is an “anarchist baker”?

  212. kaysee

    Silencing ex-gays

    The last taboo: those who have stopped identifying as LGBT are harassed and censored for coming out about their change in sexuality.

    For those with unwanted same-sex attraction, the option of therapy provides clients with hope and support. Many reported their depression or [email protected] thoughts subsided or diminished in response to the therapy.

    For these people, affirmation could have been damaging.

    One recipient explains:
    “I always felt let down by the medical profession because, while officially theraapists say they will not judge the client, they would not accept the validity of my choice not to identify as gay. I felt angry, cheated and discriminated against. The consultations contradicted the principle of self-determination that I was promised.”

    It is hard to see how affirming a person’s unwanted same-sex attractions is a more compassionate approach.

  213. Bruce of Newcastle

    have a gander of this list of protestors

    I now have to go watch the B Ark segment of Hitchhikers’ again.
    What a bunch of drones.

  214. Top Ender

    For the blog owner…

    Posted the text from this – and it all just disappeared.

    Didn’t go into moderation.

    It’s happened before with the same subject – the Rolfe case in the NT.

    Anyway, here’s the URL – others may be interested in the story itself:

    https://ntindependent.com.au/zachary-rolfes-lawyer-seeks-to-move-murder-trial-to-darwin/

  215. Mark A

    Time for a little levity.

    Dave was a very happy man.
    He had been dating for over a year, and so they decided to get married.
    There was only only little thing bothering him — it was his girlfriends beautiful younger sister.

    His prospective sister-in-law was twenty-two, wore very tight miniskirts, and generally was bra-less. She would regularly bend down when she was near him, and he always got more than a nice view. It had to be deliberate. Because she never did it when she was near anyone else.

    One day her “little” sister called and asked him to come over to check the wedding invitations. She was alone when he arrived, and she whispered to him that she had feelings and desires for him that she couldn’t overcome. She told him that she wanted Dave just once before he got married and committed his life to her sister.
    Well, he was in total shock, and couldn’t say a word.

    She said, “I’m going upstairs to my bedroom, and if you want one last wild fling, just come up and get me.”
    Dave was stunned and frozen in shock as he watched her go up the stairs. He stood there for a moment, then turned and made a beeline straight to the front door.

    He opened the door, and headed straight towards his car. Lo and behold, his entire future family was standing outside, all clapping!
    With tears in his eyes, the future father-in-law hugged him and said, “We are very happy that you have passed our little test.
    We couldn’t ask for a better man for our daughter. Welcome to the family.”

    ————————————————————————————————————
    And the moral of this story is: Always keep your condoms in your car.

  216. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    WA’s finest fired up for the SAS

    Melissa Yeo
    23 minutes ago November 25, 2020
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    Kerry Stokes may be putting up the cash for the legal bills in Ben Roberts Smith’sdefamation suit, but a bevy of WA’s biggest names are behind the charity that could help to pay costs for the rest of the soldiers caught up in Judge Paul Brereton’sinquiry.

    Last week, it was revealed that Smith, the former SAS corporal, had offered up his prized Victoria Cross as collateral for a $1m loan from Stokes, to help fund his defamation action against Nine Entertainment.

    The SAS Resources Fund, which Stokes helped to establish in 1996, is also likely to be tapped to cover any legal bills for the 19 soldiers called out in the inquiry, over and above any assistance provided by the Defence Force itself.

    The fund’s accounts for the year to June 30 reveal it has $2.85m waiting to assist.

    Trustees of the fund are a who’s who of former army servicemen, all with strong links to Stokes’ hometown of Perth, recently rejigged at the group’s annual Sundowner event at the Royal Freshwater Bay Yacht Club.

    Outgoing chair Greg Solomon passed the baton to his deputy Grant Walsh, also a director of risk management outfit Osprey International, while former WA Senator Chris Ellison was appointed as trustee.

    They join billionaire Andrew ‘Twiggy’ Forrest, former PricewaterhouseCoopers exec Nick Brasington, ex-local Alcoa boss Alan Cransberg and James McMahon of Stoke’s Australian Capital Equity, who also sits alongside the WA heavyweight on the council of the Australian War Memorial.

  217. Steve trickler

    Just recent.

    Larry SpidermanMcBride goes the fastest ever on the quarter mile…. riding a “motorbike” that drinks nitromethane.😎

    5.678 et – 265.95 mph / 428.005037 kph.

    Race starts at 3:30



  218. rickw

    fck that, boycott the bastards

    Berth those iron ore carriers, then scuttle them!

  219. 132andBush

    I now have to go watch the B Ark segment of Hitchhikers’ again.

    That is such a funny scene.
    Having a Four Pillars Bloody Shiraz gin and tonic just now, as it happens.

  220. Bruce of Newcastle

    Black Friday today.
    Shop guy says it falls on a Wednesday this year.
    Figures.
    I asked is their stuff on sale? Yes, he sez, until Dec 1.
    I looks and I sees a laptop I like.
    Went home and buys it on line from Dell for ridiculously low price.
    That’s 2020 for you.
    Sorry laptop, a decade of spilling liquids onto you means it’s time for your retirement.
    Also you don’t have SSD hotness.

  221. Tel

    What on earth is an “anarchist baker”?

    Remember the “anarchist cookbook”? Well, these days the bad guys have a lot more bread.

  222. Steve trickler

    Recent footage from Thailand.

    👀

    Nice helmets.



  223. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Kaysee, thanks for the laughs. I always enjoy the ones you post.

    I especially liked the ‘how to write good’ one.
    A lesson in every line. 🙂

    And Mark A too, with the jokes.

    We need a little levity in these nervy times.
    As you say, Bruce, the bird hobby does help.
    I am always popping in and out to the terrace to check on and feed my babies.
    Both mum and dad were there the other day in the rain doing sterling work.
    The fledglings are swooping around the front of our place as well as the back now.
    Life is one huge adventure for them.
    Had my 18 month old grandson round today too. He’s a handful with his adventuring.
    I’m worn out.

  224. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Alan Jones was good tonight. Interesting clip of a Mise economist giving a lecture on The Covid Cult.

    Everything that guy said about Covid could also apply to the Climate Cult. He was a good lecturer; knew how to pull a laugh or too.

    What a world of cultism we live in. Hard to find sense anywhere.

  225. Leigh Lowe

    What on earth is an “anarchist baker”?

    One who refuses to bake a cake for a gay wedding?

  226. miltonf

    The attack on BRS and the SAS in general leaves me lost for words. More trial by meja. Only ORs too- no oroficers. Geeze feudalism is back.

  227. Gab

    the devil and his Labor minions are at it again.

    New Legislation Could See Christians in Victoria Jailed for 10 Years for Attempting to Convert People

    Legislation introduced in the Victorian Government today could see Christians hit with heavy fines and lengthy jail times for attempting to convert LGBTQ people to Christianity or teaching certain portions of the Bible.

  228. miltonf

    Has the dick tator been talking to the sturgeon slag?

  229. vlad

    In other news, Dictator Dan appointed to the Law “Reform” Commission today two of Rumour Milligan’s besties, Kathleen Foley and – worse – “Dr” Vivian Waller, Mr J’s lawyer. (Not that a complainant has a lawyer in sexual offence proceedings – but you know, his mouthpiece and spokeswoman.)

    So Dan is looking after his friends.

  230. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    if anyone is interested in this type of thing, another groundbreaking paper
    Evidence for the intrinsically nonlinear nature of receptive fields in vision

  231. C.L.

    Kerry Stokes may be putting up the cash for the legal bills in Ben Roberts Smith’sdefamation suit, but a bevy of WA’s biggest names are behind the charity that could help to pay costs for the rest of the soldiers caught up in Judge Paul Brereton’sinquiry.

    Good work, gentlemen. Private enterprise at its finest.

    Here’s a prediction: when it comes to the legal crunch – meaning, when any charged individuals get to grill the living tripe out of ‘witnesses’ – these cases will collapse.

    What is it – 29 instances of bokes saying, ‘yeah brah – shoot this dude and you’re in’?

    Bullshit.

  232. Maj

    Legislation introduced in the Victorian Government today could see Christians hit with heavy fines and lengthy jail times for attempting to convert LGBTQ people to Christianity or teaching certain portions of the Bible.

    What are the numbers like in the VIC Upper House?

  233. cohenite

    Legislation introduced in the Victorian Government today could see Christians hit with heavy fines and lengthy jail times for attempting to convert LGBTQ people to Christianity or teaching certain portions of the Bible.

    The RoP don’t convert, they just behead; but that’s fine. Is there a slimier, more putrid arsehole then the hunchback.

  234. cohenite

    It’s late in the evening and I’m waiting for the lame pics so I thought I’d post this bit of Frank Frazetta artwork; it’s a bit risque, even more than some of Frank’s usual scantily clad heroines. I have several of Frank’s Conan covers and they are terrific. If I had some real money I’d buy one of his originals, perhaps this one:

    https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10225023124511284&set=gm.701974974085422

  235. old bloke

    ‘Tucked in a red rock cove was a shiny metal monolith protruding from the ground.

    I wonder if that sits on Bruce Cathie’s energy grid, can’t tell if they won’t reveal the latitude and longitude.

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