Not just a cancer. A highly malignant cancer on the face of Australian democracy.

TAFKAS strongly endorses the words of Doom Lord Sinc as he penned yesterday:

Not just a weed. A $1 billion parasite. A cancer that is metastasising and destroying local private media and public trust.

TAFKAS too received the Ramsay email with Chairman Butrrose’s speech but could not stomach watching any of it, let alone 10 minutes.

But in the cold light of day, TAFKAS read some media coverage of Ita’s speech.  This bit came from the Oz.  Make sure you are seated when you read this:

Ms Buttrose cited a Deloitte report commissioned by the ABC, which found the broadcaster contributed $1bn to the economy annually with more than a third going towards the broader media ecosystem.

An external consultant who would, for the right amount of money, produce an analysis showing that Australia is New Zealand has found that an organisation that costs tax payers $1 billion dollars a year “contributed $1bn to the economy annually“.

Now that’s an insight.  Now that’s public interest journalism.  Now that’s an organisation under resource constraint.

Cut the money.  End it now.  If there is a public policy need for “public interest journalism”, let the government put out a tender.  If there is a public policy need for niche entertainment content that no-one will watch, let the government put out a tender.  If there is a public policy need for regional news services, the the government put out a ficken tender.

Just because the highly paid bureaucrats in the over resourced Communications department don’t want to do the work of contract tendering and management does not mean that they should not.

Hey Prime Minister Morrison.  Here is a pathway for you offering plausible deniability.  Put Stuart Robert in charge.  Everything he touches usually comes a cropper.

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65 Responses to Not just a cancer. A highly malignant cancer on the face of Australian democracy.

  1. stackja

    ABC deserve WEB. Unpaid.

  2. Roger

    Ms Buttrose cited a Deloitte report commissioned by the ABC, which found the broadcaster contributed $1bn to the economy annually with more than a third going towards the broader media ecosystem.

    In other words a third of the ABC’s budget goes to production companies who produce content for the ABC.

    The usual suspects – Andrew Denton, the Chaser boys, et. al..

    Nice work if you can get it.

  3. Bruce of Newcastle

    I suspect the ABC costs the economy at least $10-20 billion a year by pushing stupid socialist ideology and green fantasies.

    But I’m amused that the ABC is so defensive that they spent taxpayer money to go to their pet speed-dial economists who dutifully wrote a report saying how wonderful their customer is.

    Betcha there was modelling involved, because awesome, and betcha no one gets to see or audit the model internals.

  4. Dr Faustus

    Their ABC steps up to help out with the struggling China-Australia relationship:

    Horrible Histories ancient Chinese cuisine skit sparks controversy in Chinese community

    In the show, which was produced by the BBC, a British actress of Asian descent appeared in traditional Chinese costume and ate rats, cockroaches, and jellyfish among other things.

    So, a velly funny, horrible Chinee eat horrible food segment – dredged from the archives.

    More than 1,200 people have signed a petition calling for the boycotting of the Horrible Histories program, over a segment from a 2015 episode of the children’s comedy series that was aired on ABC Me last Friday evening.

    Say Leng Kapsis, the president of Fair Go SA, a not-for-profit organisation providing anti-racism services for Chinese Australians since the coronavirus pandemic, said:

    …Australians had seen a shift in their awareness of racism this year, after conspiracies linked the origin of COVID-19 to images of Chinese people eating insects, snakes and bats.

    Public interest broadcasting at its very best.

  5. A Lurker

    Simply turn the ABC funding model to subscription only.
    Force the lunatic Left to pay for their own propaganda arm.

  6. nb

    Deloitte: ‘contributed $1bn to the economy annually’
    There is a certain beauty in such perfect stupidity.
    Did the men and women at Deloitte laugh as they craft this perfect art, or did they sit there all analytical and stern? Perhaps it was just another wad of tedious papers with a dollar sign hovering over it. Or, perhaps, they were drunk and staggering, like Pollock and Blue Poles.

  7. C.L.

    Ms Buttrose cited a Deloitte report commissioned by the ABC, which found the broadcaster contributed $1bn to the economy annually

    Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

  8. a happy little debunker

    contributed $1bn to the economy annually

    Sounds like when Kerry Packer claimed all the tax paid on behalf of his employees as his own.
    Funny though, as I remember the ABC saying that was false…

  9. Perfidious Albino

    I recall Australia Post also promoting it’s economic ‘value’ to the community based on a report by the same consultant… don’t know if they received Cartier watches in thanks though…

  10. Astatine Jones

    An external consultant [Deloitte] who would, for the right amount of money, produce an analysis showing that Australia is New Zealand has found that an organisation that costs tax payers $1 billion dollars a year “contributed $1bn to the economy annually“.

    Easy to rubbish a Deloitte report (and indeed Deloitte) without providing any real substance or analysis.

    Funny that you have Henry Ergas as a contributor to the Cat though. From his bio:
    Henry Ergas AO is a columnist for The Australian. From 2009 to 2015 he was Senior Economic Adviser to Deloitte Australia and from 2009 to 2017 was Professor of Infrastructure Economics at the University of Wollongong’s SMART Infrastructure Facility. He joined SMART and Deloitte after working as a consultant economist at NECG, CRA International and Concept Economics….

    I guess Deloitte has economics credibility when it suits your narrative.

  11. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    a Deloitte report commissioned by the ABC, which found the broadcaster contributed $1bn to the economy annually

    It’s almost beyond comprehension that someone could make such a claim while keeping a straight face. However, given the monstrous bizarro clown world we now seem to exist in, it’s entirely unsurprising.

  12. stevem

    So the ABC receives $1b and contributed $1bn to the economy. In other words it adds no value whatever.

  13. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    steve – the ALPBC actually receives about $1.2 billion pa. So, a net negative. But we knew that already.

  14. Bruce of Newcastle

    Haha, Mr Radioactive thinks rubbishing Deloitte is unjustified. Mr Radioactive, have you been under a rock this last several decades that Chris Richardson has been ABC’s go-to economic talking head? Or that anyone who commissions and pays for a consultancy to write a report about how good they are almost certainly is in the whitewash business? We are not idiots, even if you are.

    When they open their books on the modelling, the assumptions and the methodology AND get it independently audited THEN someone might believe it. When I do such analysis that’s what happens to my modelling. But then I’ve not worked for a giant lefty self-important taxpayer-funded kolkhoz like the ABC, I do my work for companies who make actual stuff.

  15. @Astatine Jones

    Dear Astatine.

    A bit close to home for you? Are now or have you ever been a Deloitte employee or affiliate? But to your points,

    1, TAFKAS has never met Ergas and does not consider it his role to defend or praise his writings. Unlike the ABC, there is diversity of opinion and thought on the Cat.

    2, Deloitte has NEVER EVER had credibility with TAFKAS. They are consultants. Fine. But they are in the business of delivering a product to a paying customer and prefer repeat business.

    However, TAFKAS will accept the challenge to look at the actual report once it is actually made public. In June 2018, Michelle Guthrie made reference to this magic report and suggested it would be made publicly available within the month. Well. Where is it?

    TAFKAS has looked around and can’t find it. He can find selective favourable snippets with selected favourable commentators. Where is the report then?

  16. Tel

    The definition of GDP is designed such that ANY government spending automatically contributes to the “broader ecosystem” thus strictly speaking Deloitte are merely following standard definitions.

    That system is of course intentionally designed to favour a big government ideology, and unless that changes it will always be possible to crank out support for government spending.

  17. Terry Andrews

    As the Murdoch Press veers to the left we need a clean out of the ABC and replacement by conservative journalists, otherwise it’s only SKY. I trust our robust conservative LNP will get right to it.

  18. @Terry Andrews

    I trust our robust conservative LNP will get right to it.

    We first need to get a “conservative LNP”

  19. H B Bear

    Taking $1bn out of one pocket and putting into a few thousand others is now a contribution? What utter bullshit.

  20. H B Bear

    I see Asinine Jones is still at bat.

  21. Des Deskperson

    Speaking of Ita, back in 2011 the ABC screened a bio-drama called ‘Paper Giants: The Birth of Cleo.’

    I never watched it, but from the previews and promos, it was clearly a panegyric about Buttrose , the ‘creator’ of ‘Cleo’ Magazine and a feminist warrior/pioneer pushing envelopes and smashing glass ceilings in the blokey world of magazine publishing. The ABC’s friends and Ita’s friends agreed. According to one gobsmacked commenter, the drama:

    “…captures the inner strength of Buttrose, forging a path in a male-dominated world, navigating through pioneer publishing, inspiration and compromise”.

    Ita was portrayed by Asher Keddie, at the time the new Lisa McCune.

    Maybe Ita thinks she still owes a debt to the ABC for such a polishing!

  22. Pyrmonter

    Surely TAFKAS means Stuart Robert should be appointed to the board. Perhaps with Kevin07 and St Tony of Warringah and Turnbull. Throw in Andrew Thomson and wait.

  23. Shy Ted

    Deloitte do lots of gummint contracts and reviews. They all read the same, just cut and paste the topic du jour, everything else is the same.

  24. Terry

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3669360, posted on November 24, 2020 at 12:01 pm
    ‘I suspect the ABC costs the economy at least $10-20 billion a year by pushing stupid socialist ideology and green fantasies.’

    Climate Change™ (direct costs only), Open Borders, and The Aboriginal Grievance Industry would sum to well over $60Bil a year (very conservatively) on their own.

    Add in their Chief Cheerleader status for Bigger, more intrusive government, higher taxes, and assaults on freedoms (of speech, of association, or these days, just to leave the house) and their net negative impact to Australia would easily amount to many hundreds of Billions each and every year.

    ‘Not just a cancer. A highly malignant cancer on the face of Australian democracy.’
    Yes indeed. Excise it, radiate it, Nuke it from orbit, bury the refuse, mark the site as a toxic waste dump with a warning to future generations. The damage they have wrought on this country is profound and obscene.

  25. Old Lefty

    Ah yes, Deloitte. That’s the lot who conveniently ‘proved’ for Dan Tehan that it costs twice as much to teach Latin 101 (requirements: tables, chairs, textbooks, blackboard and chalk) as it does to teach engineering and medicine. Now I have nothing against engineering and medicine – quite the contrary, in fact – but the sheer dishonesty and intellectual prostitution of Deloitte’s is something else.

    Tehan, by the way, seems to think that Latin isn’t a language; it doesn’t get the discounted rate for ‘languages’. Is he a ‘progressive’ ‘Catholic’ or just a philistine? The former is a virulent subset off he latter: ‘I don’t go with that airy-fairy arty-farty dago jibber jabber, what do they call it, Latin. Geez Louise, it’s old-fashioned dago jibber jabber; not even the Ities and Frogs jabber it any more.’

    Spare a thought for Latinists these days. They get it from both ends: the woke left denounce them as imperialist racist genocide merchants etc etc, and the Tehans jeer ‘get yourself a real job you arty-farty ponce’.

  26. H B Bear

    Weren’t Deloitte Mrs KRuddy’s JV partner? They are pretty comfortable on the government tit.

  27. Old Lefty

    Two immediate reforms Boris is introducing at the BBC: no partisan tweeting if you want to keep your job as a BBC journalist; permission required, and a share of the royalties/fees for books, speaking engagements, gigs at literary festivals etc which are to done on your own time. Imagine the howls of outrage.

  28. Pyrmonter

    @ OldLefty

    The BBC have taken appearances of impartiality more seriously than the ABC for years. To be fair to some of the ABC ‘personalities’, some try. While Cats will caterwaul at the idea, I find, for example, Patricia Karvelas fairly scrupulous at not mixing motivated opinion with news reporting. Something similar could be said for the likes of Andrew West (RN Religion Report). Many others – especially those who’ve touched either JJ or JJJ – treat notions of formal impartiality with disdain.

  29. H B Bear

    No advertising on the ALPBC, unless it is one of your staff co-op’s mates books in the run up to Xmas, eh Richard Fidler,aka The King of Smug.

  30. H B Bear

    Only ever seen Karvelas in frightbat mode on the new Ol’ Leathery’s Flying Circus. RN still a bridge too far for me. Maybe when I am nearer death.

  31. Lee

    I see Asinine Jones is still at bat.

    Usually pushing leftist talking points, like globull warming.

  32. If wandered around Ultimo smashing windows with a hammer I too could boost the country’s GDP.

  33. Pyrmonter

    @ egg

    At the risk of complicating this thread with information not produced by people actively consuming controlled substances (some of you conservatives and nationalists act like the caricature of libertarians as the licentious) … there are two limbs to the tort of conspiracy: one is for two people to agree to do something unlawful; the other for two people to do something lawful with the intention of harming a third.

    Some consideration here: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/cambridge-law-journal/article/tort-of-conspiracy-and-civil-secondary-liability/B8296B94F74E1526143F66A8A154A754

  34. Pyrmonter

    @ Forester

    Only if the windows were fixed. There are spots in Ultimo where they wouldn’t be.

  35. Astatine Jones

    Dear TAFKAS,

    I can assure you that I have (and never have had) any connection with Deloitte. Neither have I seen their report into the ABC. I understand the obligations and expectations that often go hand-in-hand with the client-provider contract, in any field, and accept that you give no credibility to Deloitte. My post was simply aiming to convey my opinion that it is somewhat nonsensical of commentators, if not you, to criticise the substance of a report (or paper/book etc) without actually reading it. I also found it confusing/amusing (and a little hypocritical) that this particular company could be denigrated so generally while a contributor to the Cat, who clearly held a top position in this company, could be held in high esteem.
    Exercising my privilege of ‘diversity of opinion’, in concert with other commentators on this site, I’d prefer to defend what I see as the positive aspects of the ABC based on rational arguments, without resorting to crude metaphors of ‘cancer’ or ‘toxic waste’. The vitriol, misogyny, racism, Leftist paranoia and personal attacks against ABC personnel and presenters…I’ll leave to those who can’t manage civility.

  36. Boambee John

    I’d prefer to defend what I see as the positive aspects of the ABC based on rational arguments

    That won’t take long!

  37. Unlike the ABC, there is diversity of opinion and thought on the Cat.

    TAFKAS drops the biggest clanger of the week.

  38. Boambee John

    1735099
    #3669629, posted on November 24, 2020 at 4:49 pm
    Unlike the ABC, there is diversity of opinion and thought on the Cat.

    TAFKAS drops the biggest clanger of the week.

    The bin chicken drops the facade of contrarianism, and admits that he fully supports libertarianism and conservatism.

  39. Lee

    Exercising my privilege of ‘diversity of opinion’, in concert with other commentators on this site, I’d prefer to defend what I see as the positive aspects of the ABC based on rational arguments, without resorting to crude metaphors of ‘cancer’ or ‘toxic waste’.

    “Cancer” and “toxic waste” are spot-on, ABC fawner.
    If you want partisan, far-left propaganda, you and other lefties can pay for it, not the rest of us, who the ABC ignore, downplay, demean or denigrate.

  40. H B Bear

    Put Stuart Robert in charge.

    Look, I hate the ALPBC as much as the next man but do they really deserve this?

  41. Herodotus

    TAFKAS drops the biggest clanger of the week.
    The big clangers every day are from you, numnutz.
    But they are more of a plop than a clang.
    Just go off and lecture someone who thinks you’re not insane and redundant.

  42. Squirrel

    One of the best reasons to loathe the ABC is the utter hypocrisy of its settled positions (inconvenient facts will not be acknowledged or responded to by our taxpayer funded source of evidence-based unbiased “news”) on climate change and on Australia’s population level.

    When it is not running guilt trips on Australians about our (in its view) indulgent, climate destroying lifestyles it is telling us that we need to import as many people as possible (who will, of course, adopt the same climate destroying lifestyles) because if we don’t we are (a) heartless, xenophobic bastards and (b) cutting our own throats because the only path to economic growth is population growth.

    On the latter point, Deloitte is a reliable provider of soundbites for the ABC’s Big Australia spruiking. This taxpayer can only assume that the same sort of glib thinking which is often displayed in those soundbites was at work in the production of a report which found that the ABC is a net contributor to the Australian economy.

  43. @Astatine Jones

    Dear Astatine Jones (again).

    My post was simply aiming to convey my opinion that it is somewhat nonsensical of commentators, if not you, to criticise the substance of a report (or paper/book etc) without actually reading it.

    TAFKAS did not criticise the substance of the report. TAFKAS criticised the conclusion of the report as disclosed by the ABC Chairman in arguing for their ongoing funding. And TAFKAS does not need to read the substance of a report to understand methods and means when clearly the conclusion is ridiculous.

    I also found it confusing/amusing (and a little hypocritical) that this particular company could be denigrated so generally while a contributor to the Cat, who clearly held a top position in this company, could be held in high esteem.

    Sorry. But that is another, dare TAFKAS say, a ridiculous proposition. TAFKAS prefers to debate on the evidence and not rely on calls to authority. Just because someone who also contributes to the Cat consults to one part of Deloitte does not mean that either that contributor or Deloitte should be given a free pass. TAFKAS calls balls and strikes. On this site he has complimented and criticised the writings of Judith Sloan, Adam Creighton, Andrew Bolt and many others. TAFKAS plays the issue not the person. No disrespect to Ergas, but TAFKAS does not generally read his stuff. Not his cup of tea.

    Exercising my privilege of ‘diversity of opinion’, in concert with other commentators on this site,

    Of course you are entitled to your own opinions. But you are not entitled to your own facts. You wrote:

    Easy to rubbish a Deloitte report (and indeed Deloitte) without providing any real substance or analysis.

    TAFKAS did provide equal substance to rubbish the report as Buttrose provided to quote the report. Buttrose believed that her call to authority by referencing Deloitte was sufficient. TAFKAS did not. He preferred to consider the meaning of the conclusion and concluded that Deloitte’s conclusion was IDIOTIC.

    The ABC can do whatever they like as long as TAFKAS is not forced at the point of a gun to pay for it.

  44. H B Bear

    When addressing Asinine Jones a simple fuck off will suffice.

  45. Astatine Jones

    Lee:
    You are so paranoid about Lefties that I can well imagine you advocating amputation for left-handed people. And if you think that the ABC in general comprises ‘far left propaganda’ that ‘downplays, demeans and denigrates’ you and your ilk…well, you really need to get out a bit more.

  46. Astatine Jones

    ‘forced at the point of a gun to pay for it’

    That’s what I really love about this site…the hyperbole.

    Better than cheap pulp fiction.

  47. covid ate my homework

    Here’s the thing A.J. If you saved the life of one of my children I would kick you in the balls, mind you if I had the opportunity to save one of your children I would risk life and limb to do it then I would promptly kick you in the balls.

    You and only you are an extremely ugly individual.

  48. Astatine Jones

    OK TAFKAS, you clearly win the argument.
    But H B Bear,
    When addressing Asinine Jones a simple fuck off will suffice.
    …that’s likely reaching your intellectual limit.

  49. covid ate my homework

    Hyperbole is in the ears and eyes of the beholder. On man’s hyperbole is another mans principle.

    P.S. Joe Biden won the election fair and square. Agreed?

  50. @Astatine Jones

    ‘forced at the point of a gun to pay for it’

    That’s what I really love about this site…the hyperbole.

    Better than cheap pulp fiction.

    You may think it is hyperbole or pulp fiction, but work it through. If TAFKAS does not pay his taxes or withholds his contribution to the ABC what do you think will happen?

    The ATO will first go to my employer with a garnishee notice which if not implemented will result in penalties for my employer. And should my employer take the bullet and close the business, the ATO will arrive at TAFKAS’ door step, with armed agents of the state and forcibly confiscate TAFKAS’ property and/or otherwise take TAFKAS into the warm embrace of the corrective services agencies.

    In the end, every single government law, regulation and directive is enforced at the point of a gun. Not hyperbole. Not pulp fiction. Just plain regular fact.

  51. Dot

    …that’s likely reaching your intellectual limit.

    Conveniently, it is also all you are owed.

  52. covid ate my homework

    @TAFKAS

    Let’s not forget that ALL regulation is merely a price fix and a weapon to thwart individual enterprise. Individuals are evil cos the collective says so.

  53. Nicholas (Unlicensed Joker) Gray

    What is a ‘media eco-system’? Is this where B-S (Bull-stuff) from the ABC fertilizes other left-leaning plants and keeps everyone happy, except for non-lefties, who react to this environment as though it was all poison ivy?

  54. Nob

    a not-for-profit organisation providing anti-racism services for Chinese Australians since the coronavirus pandemic,

    Am I being picky to note that anyone who receives pay or even a sense of well-being from a “not for profit” money pit is in fact profiting?
    Even essential frontline workers providing essential frontline racism services.

    There’s no particular moral superiority in this.

  55. Lee

    Lee:
    You are so paranoid about Lefties that I can well imagine you advocating amputation for left-handed people.

    BS. I never made any such ridiculous suggestion or implication.
    Your leftist sophistry at work again.

    And if you think that the ABC in general comprises ‘far left propaganda’ that ‘downplays, demeans and denigrates’ you and your ilk…well, you really need to get out a bit more

    There are none so blind as those who refuse to see, ABC sycophant.
    Name one conservative (let alone right wing) host, commentator or journalist at the ABC.
    And LINOs like Turnbull and Hewson don’t count.
    The ABC is rotten to its far-left, taxpayer-funded, propaganda and agenda-driven core, and the sooner it is defunded or closed down the better, IMO.

  56. Neil

    And if you think that the ABC in general comprises ‘far left propaganda’ that ‘downplays, demeans and denigrates’ you and your ilk…

    Well the ABC decided to publish the number of people who died after 2016 when Coalition made changes to Labors Robodebt scheme. Why did the ABC do that?? Has the ABC ever published how many peopled died because of a govt program before? Here is the title of the ABC HACK article

    Over 2000 people died after receiving Centrelink robo-debt notice, figures reveal

    Down the bottom of the ABC article it stated that 900,000 notices were sent after 2016 and 2,030 people died. A normal death rate for a population that size. Nothing sinister. But most lefties just saw the title and some people are now saying the Coalition killed 2,000 people

  57. egg_

    In other words a third of the ABC’s budget goes to production companies who produce content for the ABC.

    The usual suspects – Andrew Denton, the Chaser boys, et. al..

    Let them try to foist their amateur crap on Commercial TV.

    SBS does better with less money – there must be something in that?

  58. egg_

    What is a ‘media eco-system’?

    Probably cannabis hydroponics.

  59. egg_

    In other words a third of the ABC’s budget goes to production companies who produce content for the ABC.

    Isn’t the viewership in long term decline – a bad return on investment?

  60. Cassie of Sydney

    “SBS does better with less money – there must be something in that?”

    Agree.

  61. Herodotus

    …that’s likely reaching your intellectual limit.
    Unlike the brainless trolling that goes on here day in day out by people who don’t have anyhting to offer except attempted disruption and leftist talking points.

  62. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Over 2000 people died after receiving Centrelink robo-debt notice, figures reveal

    Well, look at this way, at least they weren’t summarily executed by the SAS.

  63. Astatine Jones

    For some reason I am reminded of the bully who used to beat me up at school for daring to suggest his footy team was not the best in the comp, so I will retire and go listen to my favourite ABC radio show.

  64. billie

    seriously folks, who commissions a report and doesn’t know the outcome?

    If you really think Deloitte got paid to produce an objective report you need to go and have a lie down

    they produced the report they were paid to produce

    why would they not do as their paying customer wants?

    it would be like Greenpeace commissioning a report on say whaling and not knowing if the report was going to be for or against their POV .. ha ha ha .. as if!

    if I commissioed a report from Deloitte, I am certain it would have the outcome I wanted! (or, I wouldn’t be paying them or ever commissioning a report again from them)

  65. gowest

    The ABC refuses to take responsibility for the consequences of their bias. They divide the country similar to the way the US media had divided their country in order to get rid of Trump, (Read JoNova’s post – 80% of Republicans think the election was stolen and the media is the enemy) and seem to thrive on it – even to the point of stealing site allowances from rural staff to allow ultimo to get a pay-rise in a pandemic where business and workers are loosing so much. The ABC collective are past masters of the single finger salute to the private industry taxpayer. Surely they can now fund their essential service from their own super-funds.

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