US post-election thread III: From Kraken to calamari

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  1. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    Is Trump the modern day Caesar? Too powerful for his own good? assassinated by his own people?

  2. mh says:

    Just posting this to show the legislature hearings could be opening minds to the possibility of a stolen election.

    This Election Stinks

    by R. EMMETT TYRRELL, JR.

    I have been on the fence. Ever since the election on November 3, I have been on the fence. I am prepared to accept the will of the people, and only in the election of 1960 was there evidence of a presidential election being stolen by either party. Then Richard Nixon refused to demand a recall. He explained that demanding a recall was divisive for the country. He has been reviled ever since by the Democrats. They are not only poor losers but also poor winners.

    So here I have been sitting on the fence ever since the votes came in on the evening of November 3 or 4 or even 5. Who knows precisely when the election was over? Those votes arriving late can take days to be counted, possibly years.

    At any rate, they now seem to have put Joe Biden ahead of President Donald Trump. I was about to accept the voice of the people. Sleepy Joe would be the winner, and I could at least enjoy the laughs he would provide for his four years in the White House. Or perhaps it would be three years in the White House. Or maybe only one year. Joe does not appear to be in the best of health these days, and his reliance upon ice cream for his sugar surge is not very reassuring. Now he is planning to enter the White House with his ankle in a cast. The decline has already set in.

    Yet over the past weekend Professor Paul Kengor’s study of the Pennsylvania results has changed my mind about fence-sitting. Here is one of Professor Kengor’s findings. At a hearing in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, on November 25, an expert testified to the Pennsylvania Senate Majority Committee that a batch of ballots recorded 570,000 votes for Joe Biden and only 3,200 votes for Donald. That would be 99.4 percent of the votes went to Biden, and with that batch he won the election. The batch came in, by the way, late. That finding knocked me off the fence. I am now calling for an investigation of the election. Are any more members of the press asking for an investigation? On Sunday morning Maria Bartiromo asked for one after interviewing an aggrieved Donald Trump. Doubtless the admirable Tucker Carlson, Lou Dobbs, Sean Hannity, and Mark Levin will too. The reset of the press remains mum. They are not curious about the incriminating 570,000 votes.

    And how long did the batch take to be counted? According to the aforementioned “expert,” a former combat officer with a background in military information and electronic warfare named Ret. Col. Phil Waldren, the “spike anomaly” did not take very long to appear. He claims it took something like 90 minutes.

    Professor Kengor has information from other battleground states too. On November 4 in Michigan at roughly 6:30 a.m., 141,258 votes came in for Biden, and only 5,968 for Trump. In Wisconsin at 3:42 a.m., also on November 4, 143,379 votes came in for Biden and a puny 25,163 for Trump. On the same day in Georgia at 1:34 a.m., 136,155 votes came in for Biden, and only 29,115 votes came in for Trump. All of this information we have thanks to the diligence of Russell Ramsland of Allied Security Systems.

    Surely there is more evidence of vote fraud that will not be kept secret for long. Moreover, if this fraud is as great as Kengor seems to show, it is bound to be found in the years to come. For now, it appears that the 2020 election is going to be the most controversial election in American history. Whether I climb back up atop the fence or remain down here among the doubters, it does not matter.

    There is now a suspicion surrounding the vote count in the 2020 election. It will get worse. Not only that, but the condition of Joe Biden’s health will get worse too. Now it is a broken ankle. Next will come high blood pressure or heart failure or coronavirus. Soon will come Kamala Harris. This election will prove to be a disaster whatever I do on the fence.

    https://spectator.org/election-results-pennsylvania/

  3. egg_ says:

    I think it fair to say that Trump was backstabbed by the GOP.

    Almost doubtless – the coup wouldn’t have gotten this far without outrage from the GOP and a total media blackout.
    At least, he hasn’t been hit by a “magic bullet”, JFK style – yet.

  4. egg_ says:

    How can this kind of testimony be ignored?

    Dr. Linda Lee Tarver Testifies to What is Really Happening in Michigan (36:42)

    The Michigan State Senate Committee on Oversight holds a hearing featuring testimony regarding absentee ballot counting at the TCF Center in Detroit.

    71% cannot be counted because of fraud or apathy or incompetence or clerical error or all of the above.

    Dr. Tarver says that the above “71%” of inaccessible ballots are stored in sealed boxes and are from “neighbourhoods of colour”, where the Police evict Republican observers contrary to state Electoral law.
    She goes on to say that only a Federal forensic audit of the above sealed boxes is possible, they’re not available in a recount.
    Glad she got her testimony on video.
    The legislature said they’d like to get her to reappear at another time for process guidance, as this hearing was limited simply to fraud allegations – she said she’d be glad to and that they have her contact details.

  5. Boris says:

    Bill Barr can take the heat, and on Tuesday the stalwart Attorney General guaranteed he’ll get it when he said “to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.”

    Mr. Barr told the Associated Press that allegations of “particularized” fraud, with some that “potentially cover a few thousand votes,” are being explored. But President Trump is down by 150,000 votes in Michigan, 80,000 in Pennsylvania, and 20,000 in Wisconsin. As for the idea that voting machines were compromised, Mr. Barr said the feds “have looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that.”

    As specific claims of fraud get knocked down, however, the broader tale of election theft takes on the nature of the unfalsifiable. “We won the election easily,” Mr. Trump said Sunday. He later added: “It’s not like you’re going to change my mind.” But where’s the hard evidence to convince the country? Many of the theories floating around don’t withstand scrutiny.

    • “Ballot dumps”: It’s being painted as suspicious that big batches of votes were reported in the early hours of Nov. 4. To take Wisconsin: Mr. Trump complained in a tweet that Joe Biden got “a dump of 143,379 votes at 3:42AM.” But the explanation is prosaic: Contemporaneous reporting says this is when Milwaukee’s central counting location finished with roughly 170,000 mail ballots. They included votes for both candidates but broke heavily for Mr. Biden.

    The timing is unfortunate, but Wisconsin law doesn’t let counties process absentee ballots until Election Day, unlike states that reported early, including Florida. Still, the margin in Milwaukee County doesn’t look crazy: Mr. Biden won 69% to 29%, compared with Hillary Clinton’s victory of 65% to

    29%. As a share of Wisconsin’s vote total, Milwaukee County fell to 13.9%, from 14.8%. A recount finished last week increased Milwaukee’s tally by only 382 votes.

    The same goes for Michigan, which reported a similar batch of ballots in the wee hours of Nov. 4. State law says mail votes can’t be processed until one day before the election. The overnight jump for Mr. Biden appears to have come from Wayne County, which includes Detroit. But again the margins aren’t wild: Mr. Biden won there 68% to 30%, compared with Mrs. Clinton’s 67% to 29%. As a share of Michigan overall, Wayne County fell to 15.8%, from 16.2%.

    Where Mr. Biden shined was the suburbs. To take Pennsylvania, he won Philadelphia with 81% to 18%, notably worse than Mrs. Clinton’s 83% to 15%. Meantime, Philly shrank to 10.7% of the state total, from 11.6%. But look at the surrounding areas: Mr. Biden beat Mrs. Clinton’s share by 3.1 points in Bucks County, 3.4 in Delaware County, and 3.7 in Montgomery County.

    • Vote totals: “I got 74 million votes, the largest in the history of a sitting president,” Mr. Trump said Sunday. It’s 11 million more than in 2016. Yet he lost to Mr. Biden, who Mr. Trump said “did not get 16 million more votes than Barack Hussein Obama.”

    What’s unbelievable? The electorate grows. Since 2012, the voting-eligible population has risen by 17 million, according to estimates by the U.S. Elections Project. Turnout in 2020 was historic, helped by expanded absentee voting. If enthusiasm was also high, perhaps it’s because Donald Trump has been a polarizing President and drove Democratic as well as Republican turnout. As for the failure of bellwether states, they’re predictive until they’re not. Florida and Ohio have trended red for years.

    • Poll watchers: Judges have dismissed affidavits submitted by the Trump camp as “rife with speculation and guess-work” and “inadmissible as hearsay.” Other claims made in public circulate largely without being tested. A poll watcher from Delaware County, Pa., alleged last week, without giving any evidence, that 47 USB cards used in the election “are missing, and they’re nowhere to be found.” Where’s the proof? “We are aware of these allegations,” says Laureen Hagan, the chief elections clerk in Delaware County. “They are false. All votes on all scanners have been accounted for.”

    • Dominion: On Sunday, Mr. Trump called Dominion voting systems, used in dozens of states, “garbage machinery.” But the totals from Georgia’s hand recount closely matched the results from its scanners. How does Mr. Trump explain that? In an op-ed for these pages, Dominion’s CEO denied the “bizarre” claim that his company is tied to Hugo Chávez. Third-party labs, he said, “perform complete source-code reviews on every federally certified tabulation system.”
    ***
    Fighting such claims is like whack-a-mole. No, Pennsylvania didn’t count more mail votes than it sent out. No, Wisconsin didn’t have 89% turnout. No, several states didn’t simultaneously quit counting ballots on election night. No, ballots in Arizona filled out with Sharpie markers weren’t discounted. In an election with 155 million votes, there are no doubt irregularities and maybe some fraud. But for Mr. Trump to win the Electoral College, he’d need to flip tens of thousands of votes in multiple states.

    We’re open to evidence of major fraud, but we haven’t seen claims that are credible. Now comes Mr. Barr, who has no reason to join a coverup. He likes his job. He wanted Mr. Trump to win. As the election timetable closes, Mr. Trump should focus on preserving his legacy rather than diminishing it by alleging fraud he can’t prove.

  6. Boris says:

    Sore losers.

  7. mh says:

    Team Trump
    @TeamTrump
    ·
    1h
    .
    @jbinnall on Nevada lawsuit: We are presenting to the court over 40,000 people who voted twice in the election

    https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1334139723128958978?s=20

  8. mh says:

    Exactly

    PlayTheTrumpCard ⚡️ Legal Votes Only Please
    @PlaysTrumpCard
    ·
    16h
    Without 1 shred of actual evidence that
    @realDonaldTrump
    did anything wrong, the DOJ went ballistic on him.
    Did a Normandy invasion on Roger Stone. Collected every byte of data from anyone associated.

    Now 100’s of witnesses detailing vote fraud, & DOJ sees nothing.

    get it?

  9. stackja says:

    Boris – AP using style book?

  10. egg_ says:

    The Cat’s dumbest troll joins the thread.

    Any news from your mate in Wuhan?

  11. egg_ says:

    As for the idea that voting machines were compromised, Mr. Barr said the feds “have looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that.”

    Oh yeah?

    That will be fascinating reading, as likely the biggest group on teh intarwebs are STEM types, you shiny @rsed retard.

  12. egg_ says:

    “Ballot dumps”: It’s being painted as suspicious that big batches of votes were reported in the early hours of Nov. 4. To take Wisconsin: Mr. Trump complained in a tweet that Joe Biden got “a dump of 143,379 votes at 3:42AM.” But the explanation is prosaic: Contemporaneous reporting says this is when Milwaukee’s central counting location finished with roughly 170,000 mail ballots. They included votes for both candidates but broke heavily for Mr. Biden.

    Were Republican observers present?

  13. egg_ says:

    We’re open to evidence of major fraud

    Try the veal.

  14. Armadillo says:

    I’m feeling a bit “robbed” by this election. We are probably missing the most riveting television coverage the world has ever seen.

    Imagine if the press and reporters were doing their job. Getting out there and doing some investigative reporting. Holding the election officials feet to the fire. Hounding the mayors and AG’s for answers. Demanding that the Democrats stand up for free and fair elections. Searching every nook and cranny to find out the real truth about what happened, when it happened and how it happened.

    This is possibly the biggest story of the last 100 years. It’s absolutely pathetic that the press not only stay silent, but they are actively part of the cover up. It’s inconceivable when you think about it.

  15. Tailgunner says:

    This is possibly the biggest story of the last 100 years.

    We the news now.

  16. Armadillo says:

    The saddest thing is that the press not doing their job is actually hurting the country.

    They could easily “put this to bed” by honestly reporting (like their supposed to). They are the ones that have the power to shine the light, to figure out what the truth is, and what’s just political spin and bullshit.

    Keeping people in the dark is extremely bad for the American public. No wonder we have all these conspiracy theories and rumours running rampant. No-one knows what is fact or fiction. The public simply don’t have the tools and the power to be able to get to the truth. The press do, and they refuse to use it.

    It’s sad for America. It’s sad for the world. It’s sad for democracy.

  17. jupes says:

    This is possibly the biggest story of the last 100 years.

    Certainly this century (there were a couple of big wars last century that were pretty newsworthy).

    It’s absolutely pathetic that the press not only stay silent, but they are actively part of the cover up. It’s inconceivable when you think about it.

    It’s doing my head in. The depth and breadth of the deep state and it’s sychophants is mindblowing. How can any of them carry on as if there is nothing there?

  18. Armadillo says:

    What flavour ice cream did you buy Mr Vice President? FMD.

    The press are the ones who are deliberately destroying democracy. It’s insane.

  19. Armadillo says:

    Certainly this century (there were a couple of big wars last century that were pretty newsworthy).

    They are actually treating this like war coverage. Facts combined with a healthy dose of propaganda. You would expect that from a nation at war.

    Problem is that the press of today have substituted Trump for Hitler.

  20. Herodotus says:

    Thanks mh for that piece at 12.31am.
    Barr finding nothing indicates another swamp creature.
    Will’s piece yesterday was similarly damning, even more so as it bighlighted not just the funny vote numbers purely in those ballot dumps but the unlikelihood of overall results falling as they did in bellwether counties.

  21. Tailgunner says:

    Money flying into the market.
    Near $2.4B.
    Up over $100m since 6am.

  22. Rob says:

    “What flavour ice cream did you buy Mr Vice President? FMD.

    The press are the ones who are deliberately destroying democracy. It’s insane.“

    In fairness to the press it’s one question that Biden might be able to answer without an autocue. There was even the remote possibility that his answer could be coherent. Though he had probably already forgotten the answer.

  23. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    From previous page, very interesting interview from Brad Parscale, one of Trump’s campaign managers.

    Particularly interesting is talk of the plan to prevent fraud and the fact it was dropped. why? He doesn’t know. Tie that to the fact Fox seemed to know which states not to call and which states to call and that Paul Ryan sits on the Fox board. Numerous other hints from behaviour in the GOP back up the conclusion that Trump was backstabbed by the GOP. The lack of fraud down ballot also points to a deal between the DNC and the RNC.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2btDOUGuck

  24. Herodotus says:

    More about why those overseas servers matter when it comes to vote manipulation.
    The evidence might be invisible to those who don’t wish to see it, but it is emerging.
    American Thinker

  25. The not very bright Marcus says:

    ABC FM ..7 am news ..” the outgoing Trump administration”…

  26. Dot says:

    Boris

    Elections in America don’t work like Russian or Soviet elections.

    Look at that statue of Reagan and kiss his arse, you fucking ingrate.

  27. Rafiki says:

    Good to see you posting here again Herodotus. The Open Forum is just about unreadable

  28. Rafiki says:

    What Boris posted from the Wall Street Journal has to be taken seriously. The explanation of some of the spikes is plausible, but not of course necessarily correct. Has it been answered?

  29. 1735099 says:

    This silly old bugger has cornered the market in spite.

    Amid ongoing speculation about the president’s next move, a report by NBC appears to confirm a rumour that Trump will, once again, break presidential norms in unprecedented fashion.

    It’s customary for outgoing presidents to attend the inauguration of their successor, but Trump reportedly has other plans.

    According to NBC, not only is he unlikely to attend, he is actively discussing launching a 2024 campaign to retake the White House on Joe Biden’s Inauguration Day.

  30. Boambee John says:

    According to NBC, not only is he unlikely to attend, he is actively discussing launching a 2024 campaign to retake the White House on Joe Biden’s Inauguration Day.

    Fair enough.

    His predecessor and his putative successor hatched a plan to disrupt his presidency even before his inauguration day.

    What goes around comes around. It’s like a bin chicken ratting around in a rubbish bin.

  31. Maj says:

    You linked to a tweet claiming one “bad guy” died. You obviously believe the tweeter, but why didn’t he mention that 5 guys died?

    He does. Next tweet.

    https://twitter.com/horelick_m/status/1333065097078583302

  32. P says:

    Herodotus
    #3678134, posted on December 3, 2020 at 7:00 am

    More about why those overseas servers matter when it comes to vote manipulation.
    The evidence might be invisible to those who don’t wish to see it, but it is emerging.
    American Thinker

    Thanks, good article with this 1min clip

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THqCji_DGSc

  33. egg_ says:

    The lack of fraud down ballot also points to a deal between the DNC and the RNC.

    Trump was probably bothering the swamp too much, just like the Kennedys.

  34. egg_ says:

    Trump TV should suck in CNN + FOX News audience!

  35. Maj says:

    From previous page, very interesting interview from Brad Parscale, one of Trump’s campaign managers.

    Particularly interesting is talk of the plan to prevent fraud and the fact it was dropped. why? He doesn’t know. Tie that to the fact Fox seemed to know which states not to call and which states to call and that Paul Ryan sits on the Fox board. Numerous other hints from behaviour in the GOP back up the conclusion that Trump was backstabbed by the GOP. The lack of fraud down ballot also points to a deal between the DNC and the RNC.

    Brad Parscale’s arrest was highly suspicious. Too much like a set up to smash his credibility.

    He might have been the difference between a Trump win and a stolen election.

    The media’s campaign against Jerry Falwell also highly suspicious.

  36. Maj says:

    So the media goes after Jerry Falwell for this frankly unbelievable story of a “pool boy”, but notice how the same media calls off the attack dogs with John Piper – no more “He tells abused wives to submit to their husbands” stories – as soon as he announces he’s not voting for Trump?

  37. Twostix says:

    Borisg “my uncle was a prominent bolshevik” is back to explain the mechanics of democracy and voter fraud?

    You’d know I suppose.

    I’m surprised you’re not hiding in your covid bunker still, given the dozens of people you said you knew who were dying of it when you were selling it as black death mk2 back in April.

  38. Tailgunner says:

    Sidney Powell rolling the Cersei Lannister battle outfit today.
    It’s War now!
    Fight, you bastards,FIGHT!!

  39. Twostix says:

    • “Ballot dumps”: It’s being painted as suspicious that big batches of votes were reported in the early hours of Nov. 4. To take Wisconsin: Mr. Trump complained in a tweet that Joe Biden got “a dump of 143,379 votes at 3:42AM.” But the explanation is prosaic: Contemporaneous reporting says this is when Milwaukee’s central counting location finished with roughly 170,000 mail ballots. They included votes for both candidates but broke heavily for Mr. Biden.

    No mention of the exact same thing happening in the other magical states in the exact same fashion after they all cloded up shop for the night? Why zoom in on only one then handwave it all away?

    Typical neocon WSJ prepackaged garbage for academic midwits. Can’t wait the the prosaic explanations of why we simply must have thermonuclear with Russia from these idiots next year.

  40. cohenite says:

    It’s gotta happen today or tomorrow: either a state legislature or SCOTUS have to get involved or Trump is finished; and barr has shown they are going to go after him after joe slimes into the white house. Happy days.

  41. m0nty says:

    martial law is a reasonable option

    Zippy saying that? I did Nazi that coming.

  42. Gab says:

    Nazi’s were socialists.

  43. incoherent rambler says:

    This is slower moving but bigger than 9/11 and bigger than Ben Hur.

  44. custard says:

    https://youtu.be/720O_yBLrTs

    Donald says it’s possibly the most important speech he’s ever made. Could someone please preview.

  45. 1735099 says:

    Nazi’s were socialists.

    Yairs.
    And commies are capitalists.
    The Chinese have as much justification for calling their party “Communist” as the NAZIs did for calling theirs “Socialist”.
    And there’s always the DPRK.*
    *”Democratic” People’s Republic of Korea.

  46. Armadillo says:

    The steal would have been impossible without a complicit media.

    News organisations have every right to “have an opinion”. If you don’t like what CNN is saying, don’t watch it. What’s particularly sinister is the blocking of alternative views in social media by YouTube, Twitter, Google and FB.

  47. Indolent says:

    Both Nazis and communists can be described in one word – totalitarian.

  48. m0nty says:

    Sidney Powell rolling the Cersei Lannister battle outfit today.

    Remind me how that storyline played out.

  49. cohenite says:

    Remind me how that storyline played out.

    You went in search of your dick and discovered you never had one.

  50. Colonel Crispin Berka says:

    There’s a lot I could quote and say about Lin Wood from his performance at the rally in Atlanta. Instead I’ll be brief. Lin Wood has seen too many Christian evangelists and is now trying to be one. Lin Wood is crazy, and everyone knows it. He is converting the kraken meme into a new religion of Krakenism.
    I was waiting for him to shout “In the name of Jesus I COMMAND the foul demons that inhabit this voting machine to COME OUT!!” 😄 It would have been exactly in-character.

    On reflection, maybe for Trump and Powell this is just another one of those irritating moments in life where you have to work temporarily with odd / nasty / crazy people in a team in pursuit of a larger goal.

    OTOH, Giuliani goes live on RSBN in Michigan in 10 minutes, which could be good if he doesn’t gasbag too much like on Monday. I notice in the chat for that scheduled stream there are comments like “Jesus have mercy, protect President Trump”. So there are crazy people being vocal everywhere on this issue, but I give them credit for not being so crazy as to expect protection by the FBI or expect justice from Barr’s Justice Department. Under such highly swampy circumstances it is not surprising that desperate people seek aid from the invisible.

  51. incoherent rambler says:

    What’s particularly sinister is the blocking of alternative views in social media by YouTube, Twitter, Google and FB.

    And Telstra. Their DNS blocking is shameful.

  52. thefrollickingmole says:

    Mong herder still ignoring the “socialist’ in national socialist.

    https://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points.htm
    13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.

    14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.

    15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.

    COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

    Why its just like pages torn from Atlas Shrugged!!!

  53. 1735099 says:

    Both Nazis and communists can be described in one word – totalitarian.

    As can Fascist regimes.
    Dettol Donny’s attempts to ignore the result of the presidential election, puts him and the Republican administration (if they turn a blind eye) on that fascist continuum.

    These included extreme militaristic nationalism and contempt for democracy, liberalism, and communism. Freedom of speech and the influence of the people’s voice are not respected in fascist nations, especially in opposition to their leader or country.

  54. Rorschach says:

    What Boris posted from the Wall Street Journal has to be taken seriously. The explanation of some of the spikes is plausible, but not of course necessarily correct. Has it been answered?

    Does it need an answer? Maybe – but so do other, more significant questions…

    The spikes of votes occurred only in the battleground states. Why only there? The spikes occurred in metropolitan cities with predominantly afro-american demographics at a rate higher than prior. Why when Trump increased the votes from afro-americans nationally. The spikes occurred in Pennsylvania and Michigan. Why there when Biden/Harris Green Nude Eel will decimate the employment in these motor industry and coal intensive states – and mostly in the afro-american demographics?

    And why are the Democrats actively PREVENTING investigation and recounts? Why are they destroying ballot envelopes, why are they erasing the voting machine software, and why are they fighting every inch of the way to the Supreme Court? The opposite should be true – to prove that Trump is a conspiratorial crackpot…

    And why can anyone claim that: a mentally frail, child molesting, bought by China geriatric Presidential candidate; with a VP who never got more than 2 or 3% support in the primaries (who will very likely be president within 2 years); who sat in their basements for months on end and got 20 or 30 people and a carpark of 50 cars to their 4 rallies; with an essentially non existent platform – most of which is based on increasing taxes, opening borders and energy impoverishment of the US, ramped up so much enthusiasm that they got a record vote (when the opposition would have otherwise also got a record vote)… is beyond comprehension. I would more believe that the voter spikes were real.

  55. m0nty says:

    The spikes of votes occurred only in the battleground states. Why only there?

    Because the Republican-majority legislatures in those states had voted down attempts to change the procedures to start counting mail-in ballots before election day. Florida, for instance, finished its count on the day because it did not resist such a move.

    The spikes occurred in Pennsylvania and Michigan. Why there when Biden/Harris Green Nude Eel will decimate the employment in these motor industry and coal intensive states – and mostly in the afro-american demographics?

    You just can’t accept the fact that people voted against Trump, can you? It puts a lie to your world view. That’s your problem, not theirs.

    And why are the Democrats actively PREVENTING investigation and recounts?

    I don’t remember seeing the DNC sending lawyers to court. Many of the judges rejecting lawsuits are Trump appointees. Recounts have been held without incident – and without significant vote tally changes.

  56. candy says:

    Dettol Donny’s attempts to ignore the result of the presidential election, puts him and the Republican administration (if they turn a blind eye) on that fascist continuum.

    Al Gore was a fascist too then? I did not pay much attention to that sort of stuff at the time but I thought he was pursuing legal avenues, as Trump is.

  57. rafiki says:

    two six at 9.03

    Yes, something may be made of the timing of the spikes in the other States.

    But is the prosaic explanation of the spike in Wisconsin correct or not? I have no idea, and my query is whether this explanation is or is not correct. Any competent lawyer would be asking this question. One needs to break down your opponent’s case as much as build up and defend your own. And if the Wisconsin explanation is correct, one then needs to see if it applies in the other instances.

    I note your slighting remarks about academics. It reveals a weakness in the confidence of your argument.

  58. m0nty says:

    Al Gore was a fascist too then? I did not pay much attention to that sort of stuff at the time but I thought he was pursuing legal avenues, as Trump is.

    Gore won every case until SCOTUS.

  59. mh says:

    Gore won every case until SCOTUS.

    There’s a lesson there.

  60. candy says:

    Nazi’s were socialists.

    Nazis had very similar ideas to today’s Green Party regarding veganism, purity not desecrating farming land, against mechanisation etc, and truly believing their way is the only way and no room for dissenters.

    Not that means today’s Greens are putting people they don’t like in gas ovens or anything.

  61. candy says:

    Gore won every case until SCOTUS.

    So not winning a case is illegal and fascist?

  62. mh says:

    Georgia’s Senate Government Oversight Committee and the Senate Committee on Judiciary issued statements saying they will hold back-to-back hearings on elections processes on December 3, 2020. The statement said the hearings would be livestreamed at 10am and 1pm, respectively.

    Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Arizona held similar forums making Georgia the fourth state to hold hearings on election fraud and ballot tampering complaints during the 2020 General Election.

  63. m0nty says:

    So not winning a case is illegal and fascist?

    Zippy was talking about martial law. Lin Wood, who has also been calling for that, wants the military to redo the election. Which, yeah, would be illegal and fascist.

  64. Tailgunner says:

    Betfair now holding over $2.4B.
    Up over $300m since 6am.

  65. incoherent rambler says:

    The USA has fallen.
    Regardless of the Trump outcome, that fraudsters feel secure enough to try it and then largely succeed indicates that a *lot* of things are broken.

  66. Colonel Crispin Berka says:

    Live now. Chairman of the Michigan House Oversight Committee is wasting our time telling us that the country election officials need more training. Yeah, and correcting the election that’s already happened?

    One of the Democrats just tried to get Giuliani to swear an oath, which turns out to be uneccessary and highly abnormal in Michigan, so it was just grandstanding.

  67. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    Zippy was talking about martial law. Lin Wood, who has also been calling for that, wants the military to redo the election. Which, yeah, would be illegal and fascist.

    so jowl wobbler, claiming emergency powers to shut down business and confine people to their homes is legal or not legal? is it fascist? which is it???

    mass fraud is more justification for a national emergency. than a virus not much worse than the flu

  68. mh says:

    Rudy will never win the public over wearing those rings.

  69. calli says:

    I thought Parscale was booted for the first rally debacle where AOC’s zoomers gamed the ticketing.

    Did he not foresee that, but foresaw massive election fraud? Easy to be wise after the event.

  70. m0nty says:

    mass fraud is more justification for a national emergency. than a virus not much worse than the flu

    The virus is real. The fraud is not.

  71. Eddystone says:

    P
    #3678254, posted on December 3, 2020 at 9:37 am

    He’s laying it all out.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=720O_yBLrTs

  72. calli says:

    Both are real, m0nty.

    It’s all a matter of degree. And that will depend on your bias.

  73. Colonel Crispin Berka says:

    Rudy Giuliani at Michigan House Oversight Committee:
    We think we know how the votes were manipulated by the Dominion Voting System.
    And Scytl! He’ll be talking about Scytl later.

  74. calli says:

    Trump says the “world is watching”. Maybe.

    All I have seen on commercial tv is a whisper thin coverage of peripheral matters while running dead on the nuts and bolts. That won’t change any time soon.

    As far as most Aussies are concerned, Biden won. Their tv sets tell them so.

  75. Zippy:

    Trump has to ensure he has loyalty of the defence forces, so the sacking of Esper makes perfect sense given the possibility of martial law. Democrat loyal forces would need to be restrained or neutralised.

    He also needs to be moving munitions, hardware – aircraft/tanks/trucks/ships etc to secure locations, as well as securing the nuclear stockpile.

  76. Eddystone says:

    calli
    #3678335, posted on December 3, 2020 at 10:33 am

    Trump says the “world is watching”. Maybe.

    China, Russia, Iran and terrorists all over the world are watching.

  77. John Brumble says:

    Ignoring for a moment that many of the questions above about the wsj article are not made in good faith.
    1) It is dishonest to state the round figure of 170,000 vs 143,379. The 170,000 includes both the 143,379 and other votes for Biden as well as votes for Trump. The issue with the 143,379 votes is that the package that they came in was so grossly inflated in favour of Biden. There were other updates that encompassed the 170,000, along with other inputs over the night that were not so grossly inflated.
    2) No, 4% is a massive change in the circumstances of vastly more people voting for both sides.
    3) “Doesn’t let counties process absentee ballots until election day” is an irrelevant talking point that makes no sense. Counting votes later doesn’t lead to vote dumps that are massively slanted one way unless there is a consistent pattern of such a slant across all electorates. There wasn’t.
    4) At this point mentioning a recount as some sort of evidence is just straight-up gas lighting. At no point did anyone suggest that a simple recount was ever going to resolve the issues that have been raised and, even if by some huge stretch of the imagination and the assumption that the original writers were absolute idiots, still spouting the view that a recount proves anything is maliciously dishonest.

    At that point the article goes behind a pay-wall, but it wasn’t looking good.

    It’s answered no existing questions, raised no new questions and only provided very poorly thought out hand-waving of serious issues that doesn’t (the hand-waving) stand up to even cursory examination.

    But hey. It uses the word “prosaic”. That’ll make the pseudo-intellectuals excited.

  78. 1735099 says:

    As far as most Aussies are concerned, Biden won. Their tv sets tell them so.

    And so did the votes counted.
    But that’s irrelevant, apparently.

  79. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    The virus is real. The fraud is not.

    this is from someone who pushed the wussia wussia wussia treason for how many years.

    I remember in high school a long long time ago, one of the teachers frustrated with the dumbest kid in the class, walked up behind him and clapped him behind the ears and said “Why are you so dumb????”. Everytime you open your stupid mouth I feel someone should clap you behind the ears and ask WHY ARE YOU SO DUMB?

  80. John Brumble says:

    Note also the way the wsj article tries to fudge the weighting of the vote dump.

    First, they increase the scope of the vote dump so that it includes votes on either side of the 143,379. They take a small truth “there were votes for Trump in the same package” and insinuate that all remaining 20k were for Trump.

    Secondly, they fudge the size of the difference. Rather than giving exact percentages and numbers, they say that the votes ‘favored’ Biden. That’s like saying that the U16 Newcastle vs Matildas game scoreline ‘favored’ the U16 Newcastle side.

    Thirdly, they move to the result %. Since this is the first time they’ve mentioned %, most readers are going to assume this % relates to the late-night vote dumps.

    Overall, it’s a manufactured article designed to gloss over glaring issues by raising irrelevant points and misleading statistics. And that’s the first dot point they think is their strongest (by virtue of leading).

  81. Colonel Crispin Berka says:

    Witness Jacobs:
    Worked on 4th floor of Election Department.
    Room has 134 counting boards each with a application box.
    Sept 22nd we were making ballot packages of 50 ballots each to send out.
    They were all instructed to backdate the mailing date of the ballots being sent out.

    At training they were instructed to ignore bad signatures or incorrect addresses to ensure all applications are accepted (She said yes when Rudy suggests this). There were times when an application was rejected and it would be sent off to headquarters instead. (The witness did not support Giuliani’s suggestion that applications were never rejected.)

    She witnessed ballot workers assisting people with voting in a polling booth. (Illegal)

    She did things by the book. Giuliani suggests that Many of her co-workers did not. The witness rambles about what she did but doesn’t answer Giuliani’s question.
    (This witness is not going well for Rudy as she is not supporting half of the things that Giuliani claims.)

  82. candy says:

    The virus is real.
    The fraud is %99.999999999999 real.
    Joe Biden being a demented dirty old pervert is %99.999999999999 real.

    I think that’s fair.

  83. egg_ says:

    custard
    #3678248, posted on December 3, 2020 at 9:31 am
    https://youtu.be/720O_yBLrTs

    Donald says it’s possibly the most important speech he’s ever made. Could someone please preview.

    Great speech.

    Lays it all out.

  84. Old School Conservative says:

    Thanks P
    Great speech by President Trump. The Lion has roared.
    Now for the definitive action to get the fraud reversed.
    He hinted at SCOTUS.

  85. egg_ says:

    The virus is real.

    It’s only a threat to fat fvcks under 60, like any flu.

    M0ntifa prays he never has to go on a ventilator.

    Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

  86. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    this is from someone who pushed the wussia wussia wussia treason for how many years.

    A treasonous attempt at overthrowing a democratically elected President and monty is in here every day like some dopey ass gaslit gullible mindlessly repeating leftoid talking points. If I were you I would be too embarrassed to darken this blog every again. Clearly you have no shame or morals.

  87. Colonel Crispin Berka says:

    Witness Jesse Jacobs absolutely waffles on with irrelevant detail. Like she’s just shooting the breeze and passing the time with conversation. Probably because she is nervous.

    Witness Jacobs:
    Reassigned to TCF centre after election day. All ballots received were already opened.
    Many ballots were not in the QVF. Many did not have voting board number on their label.
    The ballots should not have been opened prior to receiving the ballot into the system.
    When she tried to check signatures properly, her supervisor told her not to, and to keep going as quickly as possible.
    They were working on entering new ballots into the QVF since 9pm the previous night, even though 9pm was the cutoff for receiving ballots.

    New Voter Registration absentee ballots were being issued and received on Election Day to voters who are on file as being first registered 10 years earlier. (Not supposed to happen.)
    When Jacobs placed a note on such a ballot to say why it should not be accepted, she was told she was correct about the rules, but it should still be counted.
    The bosses instructed ballots without matching signatures to be entered with backdated received dates.
    “Everything that was going on on the podium was not right.”

  88. egg_ says:

    A treasonous attempt at overthrowing a democratically elected President and monty is in here every day like some dopey ass gaslit gullible mindlessly repeating leftoid talking points. If I were you I would be too embarrassed to darken this blog every again. Clearly you have no shame or morals.

    The waterboy, who never got picked for the footy team.
    Sad.

  89. cohenite says:

    The virus is real. The fraud is not.

    They’re both real piss taker; and the chunks are up to their scrawny necks in both.

    I see the old bastard flogging the fascist/nazi/commie difference; what a wanker; as someone said living under the nazis was the same as living under stalin or mao; there is no difference; they’re all commies with the vast number of citizens having no say in their lives which are controlled by a small cohort of utter vermin aided and abetted by useful idiots like the old bastard and piss taker.

  90. Infidel Tiger says:

    So Sidney Powell turns out to be a crazed grifter who is now advocating not voting to retain the Senate.

    Insane. Give Dems all three houses and America is done for forever.

  91. Infidel Tiger says:

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    7h
    Will be going to Georgia for a big Trump Rally in support of our two great Republican Senators, David and Kelly. They are fantastic people who love their Country and love their State. We must work hard and be sure they win. #USA

    Trump gets it.

  92. calli says:

    Probably because she is nervous.

    Why would she not be nervous?

    I’m sure she loves her family, home, pets and job. And her kneecaps.

  93. Tom says:

    Thanks to Eddystone at 10.30am for posting the Trump speech (2-12-20) on election fraud — an important historical marker in the 2020 presidential election.

  94. Colonel Crispin Berka says:

    Dem member says “This isn’t the Four Seasons Landscaping!” LOOOOLLLL

    Dem tries to claim her story has been rejected as not credible by a judge.

  95. Colonel Crispin Berka says:

    In Michigan. .. The Beehive Babe is back!

  96. Andreas says:

    The virus is real. The fraud is not.

    How would you know the fraud is not real when you’ve already said you refuse to watch the witness’s testimonies?

  97. Boambee John says:

    m0nty
    #3678235, posted on December 3, 2020 at 9:19 am
    martial law is a reasonable option

    Zippy saying that? I did Nazi that coming.

    Bit early in the morning for the fat fascist fool to go full Godwin.

  98. dover_beach says:

    Because the Republican-majority legislatures in those states had voted down attempts to change the procedures to start counting mail-in ballots before election day. Florida, for instance, finished its count on the day because it did not resist such a move.

    The ‘canned arguments’ and gaslighting continues. OH had the same regulations re the mail-in counting as PA but still managed to have the counting finish on Tues evening. Also, evwn in PA itself, why did the Rep counties manage to complete the counting of the mail-in ballots Tues evening but the Dem cities of Pittsburgh and Philly drag it out. In fact, they waited for the other counties to report and officially called off the ‘counting’ until the morning, all the while continuing through the night, in order to determine the margin of fraud required for ‘victory’.

  99. m0nty says:

    How would you know the fraud is not real when you’ve already said you refuse to watch the witness’s testimonies?

    They are not under oath, thus their testimonies are worth nothing.

  100. John Comnenus says:

    I agree with Wood and Powell, if the GOP won’t fight to represent their voters then the voters should strike. If the Dems are allowed to steal Georgia in November why would any sane person think they won’t steal it in January?

    Across the board GOP voters need to announce a 2 term boycott of voting for any GOP candidate at any level if they do not do the right thing re election certification. This is a ballot box coup. If Americans let the Dems steal this election they will never get their country back.

    A nationwide vote strike would help. The strike will not hurt the conservative cause because under the cheating rules you won’t win any important office anyway, and the only way to stop this is to stop it now.

  101. Colonel Crispin Berka says:

    Carone says The “warehouse” where the ballot manufacturing was happening was in the Detroit Department of Elections building!
    Whoaaah.

  102. m0nty says:

    OH had the same regulations re the mail-in counting as PA but still managed to have the counting finish on Tues evening.

    No. Ohio had a different regulation, in that it didn’t dribble out the updates as they were counted, but only had two reports: one at 8pm on election day and another when they finished counting absentee ballots more than a week later.

    Also, evwn in PA itself, why did the Rep counties manage to complete the counting of the mail-in ballots Tues evening but the Dem cities of Pittsburgh and Philly drag it out

    db, are you really asking why the urban counties take longer to count than the rural counties? Think about that for a bit.

  103. m0nty says:

    Across the board GOP voters need to announce a 2 term boycott of voting for any GOP candidate at any level if they do not do the right thing re election certification.

    That would be terrible! Please don’t do that!

  104. cohenite says:

    They are not under oath, thus their testimonies are worth nothing.

    Great piss taking piss taker; all of them have signed affidavits which are the equivalent of sworn testimony; they spoke to their affidavits; a common process.

    You’re such a fucking idiot; go and find your dick; oh, that’s right, you never had one.

  105. Boambee John says:

    m0nty
    #3678401, posted on December 3, 2020 at 11:50 am
    How would you know the fraud is not real when you’ve already said you refuse to watch the witness’s testimonies?

    They are not under oath, thus their testimonies are worth nothing.

    So, much like the comments by the fat fascist fool?

  106. cohenite says:

    db, are you really asking why the urban counties take longer to count than the rural counties? Think about that for a bit.

    As noted many times piss taker, the dump and bump occurred in a few counties, in the demorat cities. You’re just repeating the fact, funnelled through your dickless perspective.

  107. Tel says:

    Rorschach #3678281,

    Yup. Those are exactly the questions everyone should be asking.

  108. mindfree says:

    Check this out from Blot

    Donald Trump did much good. His work in the Middle East was outstanding. His refusal to start wars was great. Calling out China was critical. His economic policies were good, and climate policies sane. George W Bush did less good, but his final press conference as president confirms he had a character and integrity so sadly missing in Trump. Watch.

    So he agrees that Trump’s policies worked but his speech this morning about election fraud detracts from the man and elevates George W …hmmm OK

  109. calli says:

    I watched the Trump speech.

    Bolt must have watched something else.

  110. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    Let me save you the trouble of this dumbass article she’s an attention gold-digging whore

    Meghan Markle’s friend reveals why she shared miscarriage news

  111. Tintarella di Luna says:

    Let me save you the trouble of this dumbass article she’s an attention gold-digging whore

    Thank you zippy, always keen to save a bit of time. Cheers

  112. cohenite says:

    Bolt must have watched something else.

    Bolta is a mess; he bashed the tripe out of some get up turds who assaulted him and defended Pell; but generally he belongs to the bow-tie wearing, stiff upper lip, decorum at all costs, go down with the ship belting out God Save Madge brand of conservative who would simply die rather than act like the left and kick the shit out of the bastards while chewing off their cods. Trump speaks bluntly and honestly; bolta cannot decode this within the conservative spectrum he inhabits. What Arky said.

  113. dover_beach says:

    No. Ohio had a different regulation, in that it didn’t dribble out the updates as they were counted, but only had two reports: one at 8pm on election day and another when they finished counting absentee ballots more than a week later.

    oh please, COLUMBUS, Ohio — Tuesday’s presidential election is in the books, but more than 286,000 ballots could still be added to Ohio’s vote totals.

    With 99% of precincts reporting, the Ohio Secretary of State’s Office reported there are 197,858 absentee ballots that have not been returned, as well as 88,851 provisional ballots.

    (UPDATE: 7:39 a.m., Nov. 4: With 100% of precincts reporting, there are now 311,519 possible additional ballots to count,155,188 of which are unreturned absentees and 156,331 of which are provisional votes.)
    There was nothing close to this level of reporting in PA.

    db, are you really asking why the urban counties take longer to count than the rural counties? Think about that for a bit.

    Oh dear, two things are wrong here. If cities of comparable size could report on Tues evening in FL and OH I don’t see why PA cities cannot, and this rural v urban excuse is rubbish. Many of the Rep counties in PA have over 200000 voters, and it’s not as if, given the capacity in FL and OH that Pittsburgh and Philly can’t count their votes just as quickly as Lancaster or York county. What was their excuse in Eyrie?

  114. Colonel Crispin Berka says:

    Next witness. Indian lady.
    OMG. Absolutely nailing it.
    The overvoting, The fraud, The intimidation of GOP challengers.
    “Not about who is right or wrong. We just want to fix it.”
    Asks where other workers were trained, they say “Trained for what?”

  115. Colonel Crispin Berka says:

    Next witness, Seeto.
    Saw D.Baxter carrying boxes of 600 ballots each in.

    Every challenge was refused and no recording.
    Witnessed Dem adjudicators filling in ballots to be straight Dems.
    As soon as he left for a snack they blocked his re-entry.

  116. Colonel Crispin Berka says:

    Back to Indian lady.

    Manually entering ballots that were not supposed to
    Hundreds of ballots not listed in the pollbook, all from a Garden St address, all identical signatures, and consecutive serial numbers, and all supposedly mail-in ballots. “My antennas went up.”

    (As they say in the classics: Boom! )

  117. mh says:

    Jenna Ellis
    @JennaEllisEsq
    How do you know these witnesses are telling the truth about Democrat intimidation?

    Because you’re witnessing Michigan LEGISLATORS openly intimidating them on the floor of this committee, on national television.
    11:19 AM · Dec 3, 2020

    I’m not watching it, but there would be a mixed bag of speakers at these hearings.
    They should be allowed to just speak then leave if that is their choice.
    But if they are willing to answer questions, they shouldn’t all be softba lls.

  118. m0nty says:

    There was nothing close to this level of reporting in PA.

    As I said, Ohio regulations were different.

    Though some states prohibit local election boards from processing ballots by checking signatures and other requirements until after in-person precinct polls have closed, Ohio allows counties much more leeway, said Ed Leonard, director of the Franklin County Board of Elections.

    Not only can voters’ qualifications and signatures be checked early, but votes can be electronically “scanned” – or entered into the computer system.

    What election officials can’t do under Ohio law is run the final computer report that would reveal the vote counts until after the polls close Nov. 3, Leonard said.

    “As soon as we have those ballots back and we confirm that it’s valid and should be counted, we begin the process,” Leonard said. “We’ll separate the ballot from the envelope, and we’ll prepare the ballot to be counted.

    “We just can’t generate a report that you or I could read,” Leonard said.

    But once the clock strikes 7:30 p.m. – when the polls close Election Day – with the push of a button potentially hundreds of thousands of early votes will be immediately reported in Franklin County, Leonard said.

    This is very different to what PA had to do. Ohio basically did everything except run the tallies before election day. PA hadn’t even started.

    If cities of comparable size could report on Tues evening in FL and OH I don’t see why PA cities cannot, and this rural v urban excuse is rubbish.

    The above puts a lie to your point re Ohio, and in Florida they were allowed to start counting long before election day.

    The truth is that you lot screaming about the MASSIVE DUMPS IN THE DEAD OF NIGHT is a silly talking point based entirely on your ignorance.

  119. Old School Conservative says:

    The truth is that you lot screaming about the MASSIVE DUMPS IN THE DEAD OF NIGHT

    Um, no, I just saw a President speaking very calmly and forthrightly about those instances of fraud.

  120. mindfree says:

    https://parler.com/post/fb674b39d26a45edbcee9ed52b3a0bfa

    Interesting post from Levin. GA Sec of State Republican Raffensperger is either corrupt, incompetent or both

  121. Old School Conservative says:

    Breitbart has a useful summary of the “remaining court battles for Trump campaign

  122. Boambee John says:

    The truth is that you lot screaming about the MASSIVE DUMPS IN THE DEAD OF NIGHT is a silly talking point based entirely on your ignorance.

    Any bets on what the fat fascist fool would have been saying had the DUMPS massively favoured Trump?

  123. calli says:

    Interesting post from Levin. GA Sec of State Republican Raffensperger is either corrupt, incompetent or both

    There was scuttlebutt about this guy and corruption right from the get-go. Kickbacks.

  124. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    grub

    Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., once called for legislation to protect then-special counsel Robert Mueller to ensure that his Russia investigation would continue unimpeded, but now he is railing against Attorney General William Barr’s appointment of a special counsel to continue investigating the FBI’s actions in the early stages of that same Russia probe.

  125. Colonel Crispin Berka says:

    Whether it is coronaviruses or tabulators, we have had a lot of problems from “spikes” in 2020.

  126. thefrollickingmole says:

    They are not under oath, thus their testimonies are worth nothing.

    Much the same as falsified votes then?

  127. jupes says:

    In Michigan. .. The Beehive Babe is back!

    Fiesty!

  128. incoherent rambler says:

    you lot

    Who said that?

    Methinks we have a live one.

  129. mindfree says:

    There was scuttlebutt about this guy and corruption right from the get-go. Kickbacks.

    Governor Kemp was the main POS called out by Trump for kick-back as well as Raffensperger

  130. dover_beach says:

    Though some states prohibit local election boards from processing ballots by checking signatures and other requirements until after in-person precinct polls have closed, Ohio allows counties much more leeway, said Ed Leonard, director of the Franklin County Board of Elections.

    Not only can voters’ qualifications and signatures be checked early, but votes can be electronically “scanned” – or entered into the computer system.

    In PA, they could begin processing and counting absentee/ mail-in on Election Day from 7am, and they were according to law supposed to continue until completed, not call it a night around 11.30pm and come back in the morning and continue.

  131. Some History says:

    Watch: Detroit Poll Workers Allegedly Trained to Call Police on Angry Poll Challengers ‘as First Resort’

    A steady stream of witnesses testified before the Michigan Senate Oversight Committee on Tuesday, recounting what they observed during the vote counting process in Detroit.

    Adam De Angeli was working as an election employee whose job it was to inspect ballot boxes in the state’s most populated city.

    De Angeli said he underwent two trainings and in both of them, students were told “social distancing requirements could be used to impede” challengers.

    He also said if poll challengers got angry about the distancing rules, “we should call the police on them as a first resort.”

    Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson created a six-foot rule amid the coronavirus pandemic, but that was thrown out by a court shortly before counting began. According to De Angeli, workers were not told about that and enforced it anyway.

    He said they were taught that challengers had to wear a mask and stay six feet away. The trainer noted that challengers could come behind a table to observe the counting, but if there was not six feet behind the table, the challenger would be prevented from doing so.

    De Angeli said the trainer acknowledged challengers would then not be able to see the work being done “unless they have really good vision or brought their binoculars.”

    If an observer got “really mad,” the workers were taught to call 911.

    De Angeli was one of several individuals who testified before the Senate Oversight Committee on Tuesday.

    RTWT

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/02/watch-detroit-poll-workers-allegedly-trained-to-call-police-on-angry-poll-challengers-as-first-resort/

  132. Colonel Crispin Berka says:

    The kraken appears in Michigan! 🐙 Colonel Waldren.

    There were over 17000 people aged over 80 in Michigan who were recorded as having voted who actually have a published obituary.
    (Remember Biden’s lead in MI is only 12000, so eliminating votes of dead people could reduce his lead to near zero just by itself.)

    Politician says the spike is just a lot of counties uploading their final figure at the same time.
    Waldren says in the data feed from Clarity and Edison there were incremental updates of county totals being sent in during the night. Therefore the argument that the spikes are due to simultaneous uploads of a final figure does not hold.
    (Bam! Fake votes are still the simplest explanation of the data.)

  133. Rorschach says:

    If Americans let the Dems steal this election they will never get their country back.

    That fraud has occurred is now acknowledged by all [even Monty!]. We have gone from: There was no fraud; to you can’t prove there was fraud; and now to there wasn’t enough fraud to change the election outcome.

    Can it be proved that there was enough to change state electoral outcomes. If it can’t – the fraud never happened.

    Hillary bit-bleached her email server; each member of the Muller team “accidentally” wiped their phones …

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/sethcohen/2020/09/12/the-one-thing-robert-muellers-phones-and-hillary-clintons-emails-have-in-common/?sh=4df07c47216f

    and now we have computers all being shredded/crushed in Georgia.

    https://twitter.com/RoscoeBDavis1/status/1334239884429713416?s=20

    Nothing to see is the media mantra in each of these. Oh – so sorry can’t prove diddly. Only thing provable is you are an anti-social conspiracist…

    So… How can the American people prevent the fraud – and reclaim their country? That Georgia is going to get stolen is a given. I’d put money on that as Dems need the Senate to get away with the fraud. And hence so do the media and deep state – so they will do everything to make that happen [HOWEVER ILLEGAL – as it now does not matter given the amount of illegal stuff that they already committed]

    The only way forward is for the US patriots to go bi-partisan in 2022, take charge and to primary BOTH the Dem and GOP corruptocrats [and that’s hoping the Democrats actually allow elections to take place if it means an Anti Deep State candidate gets up regardless] and have honest people [yes there are honest Democrats] in Govt and hopefully they can begin to clean the shit up. Augean stables – everyone, and I mean everyone has to get kicked out. Even people that I really respect like Ted Cruz … [he did not do enough]. He like Trump can still play from the sidelines … this is an existential war that now needs to be waged by other means.

    If it can’t be done in 2022 – then it will never happen. The transformation of society will be done and dusted.

    Watch this space – on the 21st Jan Trump and anyone associated will be swamped with tax, corruption, fraud, obstruction of justice, electoral interference and any number of criminal proceedings. None of these may stick – but Trump will be bankrupt at the end. And they may get a Flynn or Michael Cohen out of him – he will confess to something to keep a family member out of jail. And that will be the lesson post 2022.

    You buck the system, don’t wear a face mask, off to jail you go. And they won’t need the kids to dobb in their parents – Siri and Alexa will do it for you. [Oh yeah – like in China it will be illegal not to have a smart phone with full tracking turned on at all times … and not to have a Bill Gates microchip (to ensure you are COVID safe)]

    And yes I am fuming… angry beyond.

  134. Lysander says:

    If you don’t think there collusion against Trump across all MSM press platforms do a google news search for “trump diatribe”

    Platforms that have used this term in the last day/hours (whilst in competition with each other) include:

    -TheirABC;
    -Newscorpse (PerthNow, HeraldSun, Tele etc..);
    -The West Australian;
    -The Age (9 Newspapers);
    -NY Times;
    -USA Today;
    -Business Insider;
    -Indian Times;
    -CBC News;
    -Japan Times;
    -Washington Post.

    No wonder NewsMax is gaining such support!

  135. cohenite says:

    Rorschach
    #3678506, posted on December 3, 2020 at 1:40 pm

    Yeah but you’re decent; so you’ll just cop it; if you were a leftie you’d put on your hoodie and be out smashing stuff.

  136. stackja says:

    MSM all have TDS.

  137. DrBeauGan says:

    We’ve had serious corruption in the Anglosphere for half a century or more. Mated with the dominance of the bureaucracy, aka the deep state.

    Trump has exposed the extent of it. He’s consequently an evil populist. Like Julius Caesar. And like Caesar, he’s been assassinated.

    And as with Caesar, it won’t stop there.

  138. egg_ says:

    Watch this space – on the 21st Jan Trump and anyone associated will be swamped with tax, corruption, fraud, obstruction of justice, electoral interference and any number of criminal proceedings. None of these may stick – but Trump will be bankrupt at the end. And they may get a Flynn or Michael Cohen out of him – he will confess to something to keep a family member out of jail. And that will be the lesson post 2022.

    That’s why Trump needs to jump on the swamp – Martial law.

  139. mh says:

    Rudy being a Prima Donna now.

    Stop your messing around

  140. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    10:22 for the chicom ballot printer

  141. mh says:

    Wow! It’s fiery in Michigan.

  142. Colonel Crispin Berka says:

    So much REEEEEEE in Michigan.

  143. egg_ says:

    Trump looked cool, calm and collected – in the very least, if he’s got the Biden laptop contents, he’s probably already made a deal behind the scenes.

  144. incoherent rambler says:

    Trump looked cool, calm and collected …

    A great poker player or holding a royal flush or both.
    Someone should pay to see the cards.

  145. Colonel Crispin Berka says:

    Ellis laying down the law to the Dem REEEEEpresentative.

  146. old bloke says:

    P
    #3678254, posted on December 3, 2020 at 9:37 am

    Thank you P for posting that video. We, the deplorables, have so little to say in the administration of our countries, but once, every four years, we are allowed to endorse or reject a candidate.

    If this small voice is taken from us by theft and cheating, then democracy dies.

    In Australia it doesn’t much matter, we get to choose one or another member of the same Uniparty, but it is different in the USA where they have a real alternative in President Trump.

  147. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    #3678563, posted on December 3, 2020 at 3:18 pm

    brave women, braver than most “politicians”

  148. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    incoherent rambler
    #3678535, posted on December 3, 2020 at 2:17 pm
    Trump looked cool, calm and collected …

    A great poker player or holding a royal flush or both.
    Someone should pay to see the cards.

    +1

    I just saw on Fox that President Trump has raised US$170 million towards fighting this voter fraud.

  149. cohenite says:

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #3678563, posted on December 3, 2020 at 3:18 pm

    The poor brave lady, her life ruined because she stuck to her guns and has principles. The left took their usual revenge on her. The conservatives have to fight like this; the lives of the left have to be threatened, their lives ruined. At the end of the day who cares because the left are useless scum. But the bolta bow-tie principle wins the conservative approach every time.

  150. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    cohenite,
    I saw your comment upthread about Bolt; this is the problem with the right. Agreed.

  151. Incoherent Rambler:

    Regardless of the Trump outcome, that fraudsters feel secure enough to try it and then largely succeed indicates that a *lot* of things are broken.

    I doubt that.
    Let me explain why.
    I’ve often spoken of the futility of trying to help alcoholics and drug dependents. Nearly every attempt to do so ends up in wasted time and money, with the helper being dragged into the scheming of the drug user.
    The drug dependent, I feel, must wake up one morning, lying in a gutter and covered in shit, vomit and blood before they accept they have a major problem.
    In the weeks since the election, the US has been trying to wake up and is desperately looking for coffee before the Court hearing due to the acts of stupidity and laziness it has committed.
    I think the Court hearing is on the 14th December.

  152. Tailgunner says:

    https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1334306257860141056?s=19

    Fox News is Done.
    So that’s all major media.
    NewsMax…some smoke around that crew.
    OANN, RSBN, and all the good YouTube/DLive/alt-media guys&gals are where it’s at. The Information War is raging.
    Forget left/right.
    This is Patriots v globalists now.

  153. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    SPalding is very accurate, and knowledgeable, worth the time to watch.

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #3678585, posted on December 3, 2020 at 3:49 pm

  154. cohenite says:

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #3678581, posted on December 3, 2020 at 3:46 pm

    What a fucking skank; the left are the diarrhea of humanity.

  155. cohenite says:

    I still like the five; Gutfeld and Watters are great and a couple of the sheilas can motor but juan williams is a total arsehole.

  156. Rorschach says:

    There is some FOIA on Joe & Hunter Biden re Ukraine and other just released. [Can’t access from work]

    https://foia.state.gov/Search/Results.aspx?caseNumber=F-2019-05778

  157. mindfree says:

    I still like the five; Gutfeld and Watters are great and a couple of the sheilas can motor but juan williams is a total arsehole.

    Stop insulting arseholes. They do have a purpose

  158. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    shareholder capitalism is nothing but rebadged chinese capitalism

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhYPLodcWWk

  159. Tailgunner says:

    Lol, I love Juan!
    He’s the negro Monty.

  160. calli says:

    That Cynthia Johnson is a supercilious slimy grandstander.

    Yes, Cynthia, the world is watching. You. And we see you and know exactly what you’re trying to do.

    She wouldn’t recognise the truth if it jumped up and bit her on the bum.

  161. egg_ says:

    Barnes YT c. 20 min mark:
    Q. What is the validity of evidence given at a legislature hearing at a hotel?
    Barnes: No different than in the House, except that at a public hearing representatives can be sued and a false affidavit is still perjury. The legislature’s intent is the same as in the House: to create a record. Mafia hearings in Las Vegas were conducted in exactly this manner, the only difference is that the furniture is more comfortable (in a hotel).

  162. Maj says:

    Why PA Lawsuit May Be a Winner

    A significant Pennsylvania case is on emergency appeal before the U.S. Supreme Court, and could be the key to reversing the state’s votes for President Donald Trump.

    Senator Ted Cruz issued a letter to the High Court Tuesday urging the justices to hear the case: “This appeal argues that Pennsylvania cannot change the rules in the middle of the game. If Pennsylvania wants to change how voting occurs, the state must follow the law to do so.”

    #SCOTUS should hear the emergency appeal on the Pennsylvania election challenge. pic.twitter.com/mzwr4eaHR8
    — Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) December 1, 2020

    Cruz is referring to Act 77, a state statute passed last year that expanded mail-in voting for essentially any reason.

    Act 77

    Congressman Mike Kelly, one of the plaintiffs in the case, argues that Act 77 works to amend the Pennsylvania Constitution while unlawfully bypassing the amendment process. Article VII, Sec. 14 of the Pennsylvania Constitution lists only four circumstances under which absentee voting is permitted:

    1. Those prevented from in-person voting by their occupation or business duties

    2. Those unable to attend because of illness or physical disability

    3. Those unable to attend a polling place because of the observance of a religious holiday

    4. Those who cannot vote because of election day duties, e.g., a county employee

    These are the only reasons Pennsylvania allows mail-in voting, and any changes to Art. VII, Sec. 14 can only be made by amending this section of the state constitution. Amending the state constitution requires that state electors vote on the amendment — something that didn’t happen here.

    “Beginning with the Military Absentee Ballot Act of 1839, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court consistently rejected all attempts to expand absentee voting by statute,” Kelly argues in his emergency petition, “uniformly holding that a constitutional amendment is required to expand absentee voting beyond the categories provided in the Pennsylvania Constitution.”

    Act 77 expanded mail-in voting by statute, illegally bypassing the amendment process and thus arguably disenfranchising the residents of Pennsylvania by denying the right of the electors to vote on the amendment, as required by law. This forms the heart of Mike Kelly and Sean Parnell’s lawsuit, and it appears to be rock solid.

    In a three-page order, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court refused to hear the case on the merits, instead dismissing it with prejudice based on the doctrine of laches.

    Laches

    Laches is an affirmative defense that essentially argues that a party cannot challenge a measure if the party sat on his rights and failed to act in a timely manner. The state high court ruled that Kelly waited a year to challenge the constitutionality of Act 77 — too long — and that he was therefore barred from challenging it now.

    Crucial to note: The Pennsylvania Supreme Court consists of an elected (not appointed) Democrat majority — five Democrats and two Republicans. All justices save two are up for partisan re-election in the coming years (Four Democrats, one Republican), explaining why the state high court keeps handing legal victories to the Democrats. None of the Democrat justices up for re-election want the inevitable backlash they would face if they ruled in favor of a Trump win.

    “[T]he Pennsylvania Supreme Court dismissed the claim based on a legal doctrine called ‘laches,'” writes Cruz in his letter, “which essentially means the plaintiffs waited too long to bring the challenge.”

    “But, the plaintiffs reasonably argue that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court has not applied that doctrine consistently and so they cannot selectively enforce it now,” he adds.

    According to cogent legal analysis in RedState, the state high court made three major errors in its dismissal of Kelly’s case: (1) failure to review the evidence; (2) misapplying laches to a substantive constitutional challenge; and (3) ignoring precedent on laches that favors Kelly.

    On the first point, as RedState notes, Pennsylvania Supreme Court precedent has acknowledged that the doctrine of laches is a “fact-intensive inquiry,” meaning it requires the court to review the evidence before making a decision. In this case, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court never reviewed the evidence.

    On point two, state court precedent holds that laches only applies to procedural, not substantive challenges. A case the state supreme court cited in its recent dismissal, Stilp v. Hafer, holds that “the doctrine may not be used to defeat a constitutional challenge to a statute.” In other words, while laches can bar challenges to the procedure by which a statute was passed, it cannot be used to bar constitutional challenges to the substance of a statute — and in Kelly’s current case, we have a constitutional challenge to the substance of Act 77.

    And on the third point, another precedential case favors Kelly: Sprague v. Casey. The central reasoning underlying that case is “He who seeks equity must do equity.”Sprague basically held that defendants could not cite laches to bar plaintiffs from challenging an election statute if the defendants themselves should have reasonably known that the statute was likely unlawful. In other words, knowledgeable defendants have just as much a duty to verify the legality of a statute as plaintiffs do.

    “The state officials knew that putting the judgeships on the general election ballot was potentially a violation of state law, and they did not seek judicial sanction for their decision as they could have done,” RedState summarizes. “Since they had not been diligent in seeking to defend their action, they could not — in equity — complain about the Plaintiff’s lack of diligence in seeking to challenge their action. ‘He who seeks equity must do equity.'”

    The same arguments apply in Kelly’s lawsuit.

    The governor and lawmakers knew Act 77 circumvented the constitutional amendment process, yet failed to seek judicial approval of the measure at the time. According to Sprague, the defendants in Kelly’s case should not be able to use laches to bar Kelly from challenging the constitutionality of Act 77 if the defendants themselves neglected to timely verify the legality of their statute.

    Another important point: The Pennsylvania Supreme Court parrots the language of the defendants in arguing that Kelly’s claim “would result in the disenfranchisement of millions of Pennsylvania voters.”

    But the legality of the votes is precisely what is in question; there is no disenfranchisement of illegal votes. If millions of ballots were cast in violation of the Constitution, none of those votes would technically be disenfranchised because those votes never should have been allowed to be cast in the first place. Thus the Pennsylvania High Court engages in circular reasoning, assuming what it sets out to prove.

    “The fact that there may be 2.3 million such invalid ballots is not the fault of the Plaintiffs bringing the Kelly complaint,” Redstate notes. “By refusing to allow the case to be resolved on its merits, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court is likely violating Pennsylvania law by allowing invalid votes to be included in the final tally.”

    Due Process

    The Pennsylvania Supreme Court also placed Kelly in a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” situation, thus violating his right to due process under the U.S. Constitution.

    Under state law, electors are prohibited from bringing a lawsuit challenging Act 77 based on lack of standing. They only gained standing once the election took place. But in gaining standing, they lost the ability to challenge the law based on lack of timeliness — making it therefore impossible for them ever to challenge Act 77.

    “Thus, under controlling Pennsylvania law Petitioners were required to wait until after the election to gain standing,” the petition argues. “And while Petitioners promptly brought this action after the Election — as soon as they reasonably could hire counsel and identify the constitutional infirmities of Act 77 — the court below disingenuously ‘retreat[ed] behind the façade of the amorphous doctrine of laches in order to deny Petitioners their day in court.”

    Not only did the state supreme court dismiss with prejudice Kelly’s complaint with regard to the 2020 elections, it also barred any relief for any and all future elections.

    Chief Justice Saylor was sufficiently troubled that he wrote a separate opinion concurring and dissenting in part: “I find that the relevant substantive challenge raised by [Respondents] presents troublesome questions about the constitutional validity of the new mail-in voting scheme.”

    “Appellees raise a colorable challenge to the viability of this sort of limitation, which can result in effectively amending the Constitution via means other those which the charter itself sanctions,” Saylor noted.

    SCOTUS

    The U.S. Supreme Court has several options available on how it handles the appeal.

    Assuming it takes the case, the High Court could limit its ruling to the doctrine of laches, finding that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court incorrectly applied the doctrine. It could then remand the case back to the state court to rule on the merits — leading to the almost inevitable conclusion that Act 77 is unconstitutional. It would take serious legal gymnastics for the Pennsylvania High Court to rule Act 77 constitutional (considering the highly partisan make-up of the court, however, it would not necessarily be a surprise).

    If the state court rules against Kelly on the merits, he could appeal the case once again to the U.S. Supreme Court, which would likely result in a 5–4 ruling that the Pennsylvania court overstepped its bounds and violated election law — a federal matter.

    States’ powers to enact congressional election laws derive from the U.S. Constitution’s Elections Clause in Art. I, Sec. 4:

    The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

    States only have power to enact congressional election laws by virtue of this clause; they have no inherent authority to do so.

    “When a state legislature violates its state constitution, purportedly in furtherance of its plenary authority to regulate federal elections and appoint electors, it also violates the U.S. Constitution,” Kelly argues, sufficing to give the U.S. Supreme Court jurisdiction over the case.

    I’m not sure this is true. A State SC cannot interpret the State’s Constitution in such a way that constitutes a violation of a federal right, and then expect the SCOTUS to defer. https://t.co/bEFlrye5zb
    — shipwreckedcrew (@shipwreckedcrew) December 2, 2020

    The petition cites Bush v. Gore in support: “A significant departure from the legislative scheme for appointing Presidential electors presents a federal constitutional question.”

    In this case, the High Court would in all likelihood find that Act 77 violates the Pennsylvania State Constitution, resulting in not only invalidating the law but potentially invalidating millions of absentee ballots cast in this year’s election — leading to a Trump win in Pennsylvania. It remains to be seen, however, whether the High Court would allow such relief, as it could be argued that, even if Act 77 were unconstitutional, the fact that millions of state residents relied in good faith on the mail-in voting scheme to cast their ballots this year forecloses the possibility of invalidating their votes.

    The four reliably conservatives justices on the Court — Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh — have already publicly indicated they believe the Pennsylvania Supreme Court overstepped its bounds in another election case. There is little reason to think they would not hold the same opinion in this case, were the emergency petition to be accepted. Nor is there little reason to believe newly confirmed Justice Amy Coney Barrett would not join them, leading to a 5–4 ruling in Kelly’s favor.

    TLDR: Trump’s got this!

  163. calli says:

    The hatred in Johnson’s face is transparent and intense.

    She was “worried” that there was no one from Detroit there. No bloody wonder. She had them all sewn up.

    And I note the oft repeated “under oath” talking point. It must have gone out to all the faithful apparatchiks worldwide (including our very own).

  164. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    leading to a 5–4 ruling in Kelly’s favor.

    That so called “liberal” justices might not defend the constitution they are sworn to uphold is an absolute disgrace.

  165. cohenite says:

    Maj
    #3678614, posted on December 3, 2020 at 4:19 pm
    Why PA Lawsuit May Be a Winner

    Laches

    Laches is an affirmative defense that essentially argues that a party cannot challenge a measure if the party sat on his rights and failed to act in a timely manner. The state high court ruled that Kelly waited a year to challenge the constitutionality of Act 77 — too long — and that he was therefore barred from challenging it now.

    Under state law, electors are prohibited from bringing a lawsuit challenging Act 77 based on lack of standing. They only gained standing once the election took place. But in gaining standing, they lost the ability to challenge the law based on lack of timeliness — making it therefore impossible for them ever to challenge Act 77.

    Yep. Laches is an equitable remedy. It is defeated by legislation. The legislation gives standing when the election occurs. The timeliness of the Laches judgment is therefore automatically defeated.

    But, in addition to that, since Laches is an equitable defence, it cannot apply to a legislative infringement, in this case, not conforming to the 4 exceptions to mail in ballots.

    There are so many Judicial avenues available for SCOTUS to overturn these terrible, frankly stupid state based Judgments

  166. P says:

    Sidney Powell Retweeted
    Sidney Powell @SidneyPowell1
    ·
    7h
    WHAT!
    This is destruction of evidence and #ObstructionOfJustice

    https://twitter.com/RoscoeBDavis1/status/1334239884429713416?s=09

  167. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    first steps to chinese style social credit

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cadNySpwyCI

  168. Tailgunner says:

    TLDR: Trump’s got this!
    LEGALLY
    😃😃😎😎🇺🇲🇺🇲

  169. egg_ says:

    Barnes c. 39 min.
    Barr’s recent untimely announcement was another attempt (by GOP) to get Trump to fold.
    Trump subsequently met him in person and today’s speech was a volley back at Barr.

  170. P says:

    Trump demands social media giants’ liability shield be scrapped, threatens defense bill veto

    President calls Section 230 “corporate welfare” for “Big Tech” and “serious threat to our National Security & Election Integrity.”

  171. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    Trump subsequently met him in person and today’s speech was a volley back at Barr.

    Also a direct message to the supreme court

  172. Tailgunner says:

    The Art of War is Winning without Fighting

  173. Rafiki says:

    Zippy
    How can something that “might happen” be a disgrace?
    And would not a 5-4 ruling in Kelly’s favour be a win for Trump and the Constitution?

    There is a more general point here. Those here who call on the now supposed conservative wing of the Court to support Trump are asking it to behave as a political body. Trump’s appointments have been lauded because they are seen as black-letter lawyers who will not act in this way. There is the possibility that some of the 5 will find that the law compels them to find against Trump’s interests.

  174. egg_ says:

    (58 min)
    Q. Time for a forensic audit on ballot stuffing in affected states?
    Barnes : Yes, e..g. Arizona – the court said to check a sample of 200 signatures – if 2 don’t match, they have 5 times what they need to overturn the Election. Plenty of time.

  175. Tailgunner says:

    Also a direct message to the supreme court
    Preach

  176. Tailgunner says:

    Sinc!
    This thread is killing the hamsters.
    Too many videos?
    Release the Kraken thread PartDuex, please!

  177. egg_ says:

    There is the possibility that some of the 5 will find that the law compels them to find against Trump’s interests.

    Big [email protected]
    Sounds like a lottery.

  178. Tailgunner says:

    the law compels them to find against Trump’s interests.

    That’s when the shootin’ starts.
    This War has only 2 outcomes.
    Which is more likely?
    #NoBrakes
    MAGA

  179. Tailgunner says:

    When they do a Trump Commission into the Steal,
    You know they’re gonna find – Trump got 70.77% of the vote.
    I’m putting my entire Cassandra-like skills on the line with this.
    410 EC votes.
    CA went red.
    MAGA

  180. Colonel Crispin Berka says:

    Too many videos?

    On small devices maybe the number of videos on a single comments page may be too much, as the browser has to initialise an embedded youtube script for every video.
    Maybe wait for another 30 comments to be made in this thread and after the 3000th comment a fresh page for comments will appear, as sprightly as a fawn in spring.

  181. Tailgunner says:

    This Election really is turning into Stalingrad.
    Haha.
    W/time travel, we know the playbook.
    #Tesla/Trump/Muskcoalition
    Trump 26/[email protected]

  182. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    There is a more general point here. Those here who call on the now supposed conservative wing of the Court to support Trump are asking it to behave as a political body. Trump’s appointments have been lauded because they are seen as black-letter lawyers who will not act in this way. There is the possibility that some of the 5 will find that the law compels them to find against Trump’s interests.

    Nothing to do with trump’s interests and everything to do with protecting the constitution, protecting the integrity of the electoral system and saving the republic from the current rash of lawlessness.

  183. Tailgunner says:

    as sprightly as a fawn in spring.


    Awwww.
    Love that, Colonel.
    Freedom as a youngin’.
    I was ripping back then.

  184. calli says:

    The judges have a choice.

    Protect the Constitution or protect their own skins. Cometh the hour, cometh the man (or woman).

    Their choice will probably surprise all of us.

  185. Rorschach says:

    There is the possibility that some of the 5 will find that the law compels them to find against Trump’s interests.

    I am hoping that all nine will come to an identical conclusion – a 5/4 ruling one way or the other will be a disaster. [And yes I do hope that it will be in Trump’s favour].

  186. Tailgunner says:

    Hey Zippy – I’ve got my average up to 5/1.
    That’ll be it.
    I’ve fought to the last bullet.
    Better than I expected.
    #AllIn

  187. m0nty says:

    Lin Wood fires back at Breitbart for accusing him of GOP ‘sabotage’ in Georgia

    The Trump campaign is in all sorts. Georgia is going to flip the Senate at this rate.

  188. Calli:
    Is that Cynthia Johnson pissed?
    Sure as shit looks like it.

  189. egg_ says:

    The judges have a choice.

    Protect the Constitution or protect their own skins.

    If equipment came to a 5:4 decision, one lot would be out of tolerance.

    How soon till we replace monkeys with typewriters gavels with AI?

    /Antiquated system

  190. egg_ says:

    Lin Wood fires back at Breitbart for accusing him of GOP ‘sabotage’ in Georgia

    Barnes says he’s been drinking the QAnon Kool Aid, and noted that Trump only advocated the checking of signatures, not cybercrime and definitely not Martial law, as the Military are part of the Deep State anyway.

    /Trump’s been Kennedy’ed

  191. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    Hey Zippy – I’ve got my average up to 5/1.

    I’m waiting to see what happens with scotus

  192. calli says:

    Those judges aren’t fools. Every one of them have watched the whole sorry saga unfold, just as we have. They also have access to more information than any of us are likely to ever see.

    They have watched ordinary Americans give testimony (just like today) under pressure of doxxing, cancelling and having their lives completely destroyed for telling the truth of what they saw. Are they above the least of the people they purport to serve?

    I’ve had the pleasure of spending time with a Federal judge who was under tremendous pressure to rule a certain way and refused. He had to have a security detail in his house, his family was threatened, the works. He stood firm. A long time ago, but the gangsters in the States haven’t changed one iota. We watched one of them today doing what they do.

    All of life has turning points, little choices that lead inexorably one way or the other. It’s the same with nations. And suddenly comes the big test, one of history’s great hinges. This is one of them, and we have the privilege of watching it in real time.

  193. egg_ says:

    Those judges aren’t fools. Every one of them have watched the whole sorry saga unfold, just as we have. They also have access to more information than any of us are likely to ever see.

    From previous, Barnes says he knows one of the Lefty ones from Yale Law School and they are in a bubble of their own echo chamber detached from the common man.

  194. Rorschach says:

    Calli:
    Is that Cynthia Johnson pissed?
    Sure as shit looks like it.

    Nah … it’s just the calibre typical of current Democrats. [Prob because like Biden and Harris you need to be to live with the fraudulent manipulation by the DNC]. Must watch: One of the smarter Democrats…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXqS1Q&feature=youtu.be

  195. Rorschach says:

    This is one of them, and we have the privilege of watching it in real time.

    There is that – history changing regardless of outcome. Certainly fits the “may you live in interesting times” curse!

  196. Tailgunner says:

    Wow.
    Great post young lady

  197. calli says:

    From previous, Barnes says he knows one of the Lefty ones from Yale Law School and they are in a bubble of their own echo chamber detached from the common man.

    I understand that egg_. In many ways we all live in our own “bubble”.

    My “bubble” is one of great hope. Thinking can be changed, even in the most hardened cases.

  198. P says:

    I lived on Guam for half my life. We had typhoons with 200+ mph winds and 40 foot waves and the island only capsized once. But we all hung on to the east side and flipped it back around quickly so we were all okay. Thank you Congressman for caring.
    (Comment on youtube)

  199. Some History says:

    Must watch: One of the smarter Democrats…

    Is that Saturday Night Live?

  200. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    the race card is becoming old and tired

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9j-EPl47YQ

  201. Delta A says:

    calli
    #3678700, posted on December 3, 2020 at 6:03 pm

    Excellent post, calli.

  202. P says:

    duncanm
    #3678680, posted on December 3, 2020 at 5:45 pm

    Do your job!

    Thanks Duncanm. I enjoyed.

  203. Colonel Crispin Berka says:

    How soon till we replace monkeys with gavels with AI?

    It who would sacrifice input for temporary memory deserves neither input nor memory.” – FranklinBot. 0x06F0

  204. Gunner:
    Your alert on 34:1 for Trump got to me as it sank back to 26:1.
    Bugger.
    I’d have had a go at that.

  205. egg_ says:

    As noted above, whilst AI has the potential to replace current human judicial functions in terms of some aspects of adjudicative work, technological advances are more likely to support human judges in their judicial work. In this regard, a number of commentators have noted that the goal of the development of AI systems should be to complement current human work, allowing for greater
    efficiencies, rather than total replacement of humans.108 At times, these developments suggest that ‘co-bots’ rather than robots will play a more important role in Judge AI. AI programs that can produce a decision based on information input could be used to assist human judges, rather than replace them.
    These systems could produce a draft judgment based on the system’s determined outcome.109 A human judge could then use this draft judgment to produce their own reasons, allowing for human oversight over the computer program, and enabling discretionary or social considerations to be made that may be beyond the capacity of the computer program.
    A further technological advancement that may assist judges in their work is transhumanism. Although sounding like a concept out of the pages of science fiction, the philosophy and science of transhumanism is aimed at ‘fundamentally improving the human condition through applied reason, especially by developing
    and making widely available technologies to eliminate aging and to greatly enhance human intellectual, physical, and psychological capacities’.110 Advances in this may allow the judges of the future to integrate computer circuits and programs into their bodies, or modify their physical or genetic makeup, to increase their intelligence and memory, increase their ability to manage and process information, and reduce the occurrence of fatigue.1

    Sounds like the AI is doing the “heavy lifting” already, just like aircraft autopilots can now perform takeoff and landing, virtually making the humans redundant (flight Engineers were dispensed with decades ago).

  206. Colonel Crispin Berka says:

    And with this comment, we shall now see if fawns appear as predicted, or else my hypothesis is busted.

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