No. No, no, no. No.

Today it seems is Queensland budget day.  This is the headline from the Australian:

Queensland budget: Covid forces $12.3bn collapse in state’s revenue

For once and for all can we please get this clear.  It was not Covid that led to a $12.3 billion collapse in the the Queensland Government’s revenues.  It was the Queensland Government that led to a $12.3 billion collapse in the the Queensland Government’s revenues.

No doubt there was a Covid related hit but nothing of the order of $12.3 billion.

And this for the height of chutzpah:

Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk also warned the escalating trade tensions with China could force coal mines in the state to close, threatening the forecast rebound in employment and economic growth.

How about the trade tensions Premier Palaszczuk initiated with the rest of Australia which forced lots of tourism and services businesses to close.

Said Palaszczuk about the impact on the Queensland resources sector (for sure she is concerned):

“We have been advised that companies are fearful of what could happen in the future if those trade issues are not sorted out.”

Did she have any concerns about the tourism and services companies that were destroy by her border closures?

And the cherry on top.  Queensland Treasurer Cameron Dick said:

 “We will do what Labor governments always do, we will always invest in the frontline and we will always back our frontline workers”.

Yeah.  What Labor and increasingly Liberal Governments do, leave a giant mess for the suckers who follow to try to clean up and for the children to pay for.  And also to classify spending as investment.   After all:

Since the Palaszczuk Government came to power in 2015, following the Newman Government’s axing of 14,000 public service jobs, the number of full-time public service roles has increased by 33,133, a rise of 16.6 per cent.

The federation is broken.  Let’s end the charade.  Let the states go their own economic way and leave the Feds to the basics paid for on a per capita basis.

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36 Responses to No. No, no, no. No.

  1. Roger

    “We will do what Labor governments always do, we will always invest in the frontline and we will always back our frontline workers”.

    Tell that to the nurses and allied health workers whose pay rise you took back this year.

    The federation is broken. Let’s end the charade. Let the states go their own economic way and leave the Feds to the basics paid for on a per capita basis.

    Put Federation on its original footing. The rot – the beginnings of the federal leviathan and the vertical fiscal imbalance – really started with the Commonwealth arrogating income tax powers to themselves during the war emergency of 1942.

  2. H B Bear

    Covid is the get out of goal free card governments could only dream of. I wonder what Sir Humphrey would have made of it?

  3. Ben

    Does anyone have any good references to material discussing the role of council, state and federal government, and debates about it all?

    I hear and see discussions around the layers of government, but if I want to be informed on it, is there any suggestions on a good place to start reading?

  4. @Ben

    Read the Australian Constitution. Particularly section 51.

    Local government is a creation of State Government to deal with the local issues – garbage, libraries, local roads. depending on the state, they may have a bigger mandate.

  5. Tel

    India is always ready to buy coal.

  6. 2dogs

    The only way to fix public finances at this stage is to:

    (a) delete section 96 of the Australian federal constitution. (Section 94 can stay, capping grants to states so that the federal budget does not go into the red.)
    (b) establish an insolvency process for the states.

  7. Natural Instinct

    Ben
    Start with the Constitution.
    And look at the very limited powers that English colonies handed over to the Australian Government.
    And then think why are the Feds doing all this stuff when they shouldn’t be involved in at all, e.g. Health, Education.
    And then… Determining whether vertical and horizontal fiscal equalisation fosters or hinders competitive federalism… will really do your head in.
    .
    P.S. John Howard best described Local Government as “a creature of the states” and no standing anywhere in law except as a state administrative region. And then the Feds started sending money direct to LGA’s bypassing States. Mmm.

  8. Jessie

    Keepin’ it in the family
    Cameron Dick, brother of Milton Dick now House of Reps, ex Brisbane City Council type and affiliate of third tier control local government spawned.
    Brisbane City Council (local government) ?10,000 employees, not counting the contractors mowing grass, greenifying streets, taking land and progressing social and cultural ventures etc.

    Climate Emergency Declaration

  9. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    And here’s the best bit – those staggeringly incompetent destructive and utterly corrupt labore imbeciles in Queensland were recently re-elected for another four years.

    With an increased majority.

    Expect to see a similar scenario play out in Disasterstan in two years.

  10. PK

    Hear, hear. Let the states levy their own income taxes and be truly responsible for the policies they pursue. Hello, Palsiedchook and Andrewsliversalts. This would be a welcome change from poorly run states passing the buck to states with more responsible fiscal polices. While we’re at it, let’s get rid of these ‘ equalisation’ polices. Let the states levy their own transaction taxes and spend the proceeds as they see fit. How do you like them apples?

  11. Rabbi Putin

    sToOpiD qUEEenSLaNDerS dESeRvE iT cOz tHey VoAteD foRr iT!!!!!1

  12. Fair Shake

    I will borrow another Labor phrase: My plan to dispense with State Governments is shovel ready.

  13. gowest

    Given the fiscal spending outlined by state governments who generally go over budget there is no money left to increase migration or tackle global warming….

  14. Dave of Reedy Creek, Qld

    Who really knows what happened in the Queensland election. With China’s involvement our elections and the fiasco in the USA, we really have no idea.

  15. Squirrel

    Ben

    You could start with the NSW Review of Federal Financial Relations, released late last year – it obviously pushes a particular barrow, but gives a reasonable overview of the major issues, and lists other relevant reviews of recent years, some of which would be more detailed –

    https://www.treasury.nsw.gov.au/federal-financial-relations-review

    If you want an earlier perspective you could look at the Report of the Royal Commission on Australian Government Administration (1976) –

    https://apo.org.au/node/34221

    The Report came with detailed appendices, including, I think, with quite a bit on the issues you’re interested in – if you can’t find the appendices online, major libraries should have hard copies of the Report and appendices. One of the ideas floating around at that time (and for the following decade, or so) was regional government, as a combined alternative to state and local governments

    https://apo.org.au/node/34221

  16. Todd Myers

    Annastacia’s crocodile tears for the resources sector ring pretty hollow for me and the hundreds of my colleagues at New Hope that have been made redundant over the last twelve or so months’ because of her obstinate government’s refusal to approve the extension of New Acland Mine.

  17. RealWorld

    As we approach 2 Trillion of debt nationally – has the cat done a brief on the outcomes of this?
    I know interest rates are low, inflation won’t rise much – but I don’t believe the Alan Kohlers that debt no longer matters – apart from a huge transfer of wealth from taxpayers to bond holders and banks – what else should we expect???

  18. Rob MW

    Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk also warned the escalating trade tensions with China could force coal mines in the state to close, threatening the forecast rebound in employment and economic growth.

    Ummmm………………….. isn’t that the objective of the left by any other means ?

    christ, they want the employment & growth but they don’t want the mines. Palaszczuk is nothing but a mail-in-ballot.

  19. Bruce of Newcastle

    Lefties always blame someone else other than themselves.
    Conversely, if a lefty blames someone for something you can know for certain it was the lefty’s fault.

  20. Michel Lasouris

    Dick…was ever a Labour politician so aptly named…

  21. Ed Case

    *** “We will do what Labor governments always do, we will always invest in the frontline and we will always back our frontline workers”.***
    Frontline Workers in this context means Hospitals, Schools, and the Public Service.
    That’s the ALP cadres, he’s letting them know they’ll be looked after, no matter what.
    Coal miners in Central Qld?
    The Party’s over for you.

  22. Entropy

    “Frontline” in the ALP context means a greater army of clipboard nurses and regulatory nazis.

    They aren’t there to help with the night pan.

  23. Petros

    At what point does the QLD credit rating drop?

  24. Fat Tony

    For those who blame Qld voters and Vic voters – weren’t the computers used for tallies etc sourced from Dominion or similar?

    How do we know that we actually voted the bastards in?

  25. Fat Tony

    Ed Case
    #3677011, posted on December 1, 2020 at 8:44 pm
    Coal miners in Central Qld?
    The Party’s over for you.

    It will be too for the government if they shut down the productive sector

  26. Ben

    Cheers cats 👍 for the reading tips.

  27. Fang

    Problem with letting states go their own way, is they spend 5hit loads over their term, then get re elected, and party on! A primary producer or miner is stuck with the 3uckers raping the state and tax payers, where’s a employee can at least “pack” their bags and relocate!

  28. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Hear, hear. Let the states levy their own income taxes and be truly responsible for the policies they pursue

    That’s been my argument for years. The Federal Government is responsible for trade, foreign policy, defence, and immigration. All else, including the right to levy income tax, to the States. The mendicant States can go bust as they please.

  29. wal1957

    Since the Palaszczuk Government came to power in 2015, following the Newman Government’s axing of 14,000 public service jobs, the number of full-time public service roles has increased by 33,133, a rise of 16.6 per cent.

    And I believe in the budget they are forecast to employ another 6,000 plus in the public service.
    Hey presto! The Liebor gubmint has already increased employment. (sarc)

    If they gave me a chance at spending other peoples money I couldn’t do any worse.

  30. win

    SMF 6 36pm. qld government replaced with an increased majority for another four years. This is the norm. Twenty years in one term out. But we now know the Queensland Electoral Commission uses Dominion voting machines for some purpose or another.

  31. Crossie

    Anastasia might find that China may be more favourably disposed towards Queensland than the rest of Australia after the way she has been acting over the last ten months. She can’t hide behind her chief health officer simply because the buck does stop with her, they were all her dictions with a CHO veneer.

    I still can’t believe that Queenslanders voted her in again so I’m not that sorry for them either.

  32. old bloke

    Let’s have another Queensland Flood Levy to help them out, I’m sure all the Australian taxpayers would love the idea.

  33. win

    I did not vote for qld. Labor but I knew what the result would be. The Premiers crazy behaviour ,her inhumane quarantine border restrictions and decisions, her self satisfied smirk couple with the very confident body language indicated she knew too.

  34. Fang
    #3677137, posted on December 1, 2020 at 11:32 pm
    Problem with letting states go their own way, is they spend 5hit loads over their term, then get re elected, and party on! A primary producer or miner is stuck with the 3uckers raping the state and tax payers, where’s a employee can at least “pack” their bags and relocate!

    And will never change until political party active membership is more than 0.4% of the population.

  35. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Palacechook’s crocodile tears cut no ice with me. She’s made a terrible mess of a bed for herself by destroying the tourism industry with confected health fears and she can now lie on it, assisted by China’s current little tanty. Her green socialism will give the voters a true taste of what for very shortly. Coal should be the Energy King in Australia; we have plenty of it and it’s good. CO2 is a non-problem, especially at the level Australia contributes to it, most people are scientifically illiterate and haven’t a clue about the insufficiently evidenced CO2 hypothesis, the general lack of warming due to human activities, and the extent to which this theory has not been demonstrated to be the apocalypse as promised. The green capture of the BOM and the CSIRO who put out curious statistical temperature comparisons in order to support their climate change hysteria funding is to be deplored. The Paris Agreement is a free pass to China to keep manufacturing with cheap electricity while we can’t. We need to get out of it and forge our own economic path encouraging high end manufacturing with Australian know-how and create some added value to our raw materials. And we need coal to do it with, in new high technology power stations. It is ridiculous that so many other countries are building these and we are not.

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