Open Forum: December 5, 2020

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  1. vlad

    I didn’t know cars could get cancer, Leigh.

  2. Leigh Lowe

    Now that will have an interesting highlight reel. I’m guessing white carnt, gubba, ‘inter tribal dispute’, grog, sit down, bashing and ‘he’s a legend, the only member of his family to have attended school’, will be present.

    One of the fancies to be #1 AFL draft pick is from down the Western District of Victorianistan from an aboriginal settlement.
    Report on WIN news when I was in Stobie Poland about how he was “first in his family to do VCE”.

  3. thefrollickingmole

    I didn’t know cars could get cancer, Leigh.

    3-5 year lifespan on the salt mine.
    Then bits just fall off because there arent enough unrusted parts underneath to weld or strap any bits back on.

    The harvesters are like grandfathers axe, every part has been replaced multiple times and the bottom half is built like a tank.

  4. vlad

    3-5 year lifespan on the salt mine.

    Okay, thanks.

  5. 1735099

    Like Curtin did on conscription

    Not a valid comparison.
    During WW2, Australia was under threat from a militarised imperial Japan.
    Vietnam was never a military threat to Australia.
    Under Curtin, Australian militia were only ever committed to Australian mandated territory during a declared war.
    In Vietnam, the commitment was during peacetime on foreign soil.

  6. Tel

    Please stop making sweeping generalisations based on your exposure to Bob.
    He’s kinda special, and not really a representative sample.

    The sample always gets biased because the weirdos are universally louder and more obnoxious than non-weirdos … thus any random scout about will show up a lot of weird stuff. People tend to be insensitive to mundane events, and therefore spend greater effort focused on the bizarre and unusual. Not saying that’s good or bad … but that’s how it works.

  7. Nick

    Report on WIN news when I was in Stobie Poland about how he was “first in his family to do VCE”.

    I must have the touch

  8. Dot

    What the hell is a barefoot circle and how does this confected slop help actual Aborigines?!

  9. kaysee

    No limits to the stupidity of cancel culture!
    Roll over Beethoven, cancel culture is coming for you

    Not on the Cat. Here’s to the great composer.

    One of the best-known melodies ever written is also the most mysterious.

    You know the tune — it’s Beethoven’s “Bagatelle No. 25 in A minor,” better known for its dedication, “Für Elise,” or in English, “For Elise.”

    It’s probably the composer’s most famous piece. But no one even knew it existed ’til 40 years after his death, when musicologist Ludwig Nohl claimed to have found the handwritten score in a private home in Munich, and transcribed it for publication.

  10. Leigh Lowe

    I didn’t know cars could get cancer, Leigh.

    Doesn’t matter what primers and paints they say they use, they will rust if you spray salt water on the underside.
    In the USA a few years back and couldn’t figure out why cars in New England which were miles inland had heaps of rust.
    Salt on the roads to prevent ice build up.

  11. thefrollickingmole

    The US alliance believed in the domino theory.
    The Russians/Chinese also had a plan along the same lines.

    But unfortunately for them a retired mong herder from upper buttfuck saw through both sides plans and foiled them by being conscripted after failing to opt out in any of 1/2 a dozen ways and then spend the next 50+ years wailing about Menzies and his 12 inch rubber conscription phallus.

    Fortunately Mong herder can remedy his ignorance by reading this paper which outlines some of what the Communists themselves were saying.
    Either that or it can retrat back into its little bunker cradling “my precious” and remaining ignorant.

    I wonder what it will choose?

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/3035095?seq=1

    Heres the CIAs appraisal in 55.
    https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP62-00865R000200250005-0.pdf

  12. Leigh Lowe

    Dot

    #3680576, posted on December 5, 2020 at 7:28 pm

    What the hell is a barefoot circle and how does this confected slop help actual Aborigines?!

    I reckon they would have called a halt a few years back if sweaty fast bowlers like Merv Hughes and Gus Gilmore took their socks off.

  13. Steve trickler

    You’ll need a good sound system.



  14. It’s Remarkable

    So, the Wallabies now tend to wear green, with aboriginal adornment, being the standard fare these days. Then a new version of the national anthem, with an aboriginal language first verse, This of course followed the obligatory welcome to country.
    I hope they lose.

  15. calli

    Which Aboriginal language was it? Won’t the others be miffed? Or are they planning to cycle through 100+?

    The Kiwis had it easy.

  16. jupes

    What the hell is a barefoot circle …

    The Abo way to take a knee. It’s been a tradition since about the beginning of the year.

    … how does this confected slop help actual Aborigines?!

    It’s good for their ego to witness self-hating white people kowtowing to them. Helps justify the crimes they commit against us.

  17. kaysee

    Jupiter and Saturn to align in the sky this month as ‘Christmas Star’

    The two largest planets in the solar system, Jupiter and Saturn, have fascinated astronomers for hundreds of years. But the two gas giants will do something next month not seen since the Middle Ages — they will look like a double planet.

    The rare occurrence will happen after sunset on Dec. 21, 2020, the start of the winter solstice.

    “Alignments between these two planets are rather rare, occurring once every 20 years or so, but this conjunction is exceptionally rare because of how close the planets will appear to one another,” said Rice University astronomer Patrick Hartigan in a statement. “You’d have to go all the way back to just before dawn on March 4, 1226, to see a closer alignment between these objects visible in the night sky.”

    “On the evening of closest approach on Dec. 21 they will look like a double planet, separated by only fifth the diameter of the full moon,” Hartigan explained. “For most telescope viewers, each planet and several of their largest moons will be visible in the same field of view that evening.”

  18. Leo G

    Under Curtin, Australian militia were only ever committed to Australian mandated territory during a declared war.

    If so, what is the explanation for the CMF units in Australian forces in Dutch New Guinea during WW2?

  19. notafan

    The mandated territory was expanded.

  20. kaysee

    This is how a geologist collects samples from an active volcano

  21. Dot

    “The mandate has been expanded, pray I don’t expand it any further”

  22. Boambee John

    Under Curtin, Australian militia were only ever committed to Australian mandated territory during a declared war.

    Except for those who served in Dutch New Guinea, and on New Georgia in the British Solomon Islands, as the bin chicken has been informed on several occasions. He chooses to forget these facts, because the truth interferes with his “narrative”.

  23. Dot

    Who keeps on giving Miriam the Gargoyle work as an actress?

    There is a whole field for underground, confined space utility work that remains lacking in representation from older left wing harridans.

  24. Roger

    Then a new version of the national anthem, with an aboriginal language first verse…

    Advance Australia Fair was chosen as the national anthem by plebiscite.

    Rugby Australia has no authority to change it.

    I hope Argentina wallops them.

  25. Dot

    I tend to go for Wales, Ireland and the Argies.

    Usually because they embarrass the Rainbow Unicorn edition Wallabies.

    Virtue signal harder guys.

    It will definitely make you better at football.

  26. vlad

    Waltzing Matilda is a better song.

  27. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Then a new version of the national anthem, with an aboriginal language first verse…

    Which one of five hundred or so languages will they choose?

  28. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Nick at 6:49 pm:

    “The Wallabies practicing the anthem in the ‘Gadigal language’. Should be frickin practicing with a ball.”

    Evidently the Aeropelican Sydney-Newcastle Commuter Flight Service Non Threatening Wallabies sang some gobbledegook from “Eora” (which is, as we all know, one of the 412 nations parliament formed by the 739,212 year old tribe that came second the first time someone challenged their indifferent hold on their sovereign nationses of peopleses who couldn’t boil water). They cannot play rugby, cannot fight and cannot sing their national anthem purely and simply.

    They are simple fellows who should not be expected to remember so many things for a whole 80 minutes once a week. They have gone off the field for 10 minutes rest and choir practice.

  29. DrBeauGan

    Page 3 of the US election thread returns Ozblogistan is broken.

  30. Leo G

    The mandated territory was expanded.

    Curtin’s special little war zone outside Australian Territory. What was its purpose?

  31. Leigh Lowe

    DrBeauGan

    #3680714, posted on December 5, 2020 at 8:52 pm

    Page 3 of the US election thread returns Ozblogistan is broken.

    I wrecked it.
    And it will stay wrecked until Sinc drums Lucious Quaintarse Cincinatius out of tye Brownies.

  32. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    which is, as we all know, one of the 412 nations parliament formed by the 739,212 year old tribe that came second the first time someone challenged their indifferent hold on their sovereign nationses of peopleses who couldn’t boil water)

    You’ll be off Bruce Pascoe’s Christmas card list…

  33. kaysee

    Page 3 of the US election thread returns Ozblogistan is broken.

    I can access the page. Try restarting your device.

    Around an hour ago, my computer was running slow. I turned off the system and restarted.

  34. Leigh Lowe

    Evidently the Aeropelican Sydney-Newcastle Commuter Flight Service Non Threatening Wallabies

    I prefer Ansett Wallabies.
    I think Aeropelican still gets airborne occasionally.

  35. Dot

    No foe shall gather our harvest is the best national anthem we could have.

    Being a libertarian nationalist republican is a lonely space in Australian politics.

    It’s normal for Americans.

  36. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    No foe shall gather our harvest is the best national anthem we could have.

    Set to the tune of “La Marseillaise.” I’m sick of a National Anthem that sounds like a dirge.

  37. kaysee

    Ponderable Points 🐻
     
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  38. Nick

    How frickin slow is the rugby?

  39. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Roger at 8:44 pm:

    “Then a new version of the national anthem, with an aboriginal language first verse…

    Advance Australia Fair was chosen as the national anthem by plebiscite.

    Rugby Australia has no authority to change it.

    I hope Argentina wallops them.”

    Watching the players milling about afterwards, discussing their fabulous game day bonus payments, it is clear the ARU has outsourced the TAA Harmless Wallaby jobs to a motley collection of Pacific Islanders who are all qualified but not good enough for All Black selection.

    Some of them will no doubt be deported to New Zealand in the regular criminal clean ups but they will be replaced by others from the gangs in Greystanes and Blacktown.

  40. egg_

    Electromagnetism is a field. One pole cannot exist by itself. Maybe you could have a field with one pole in the centre and one on the outside like a sphere. My 2 bobs worth. Mind you 1 bob is 1 too many.

  41. Zyconoclast

    Business travellers and sports stars among exemptions from quarantine in new travel rules

    GRANT SHAPPS announced today there will be no changes to the travel corridor list this week but that there will be a new business traveller exemption. Those travelling for “high value” business, and qualifying performing arts professionals, TV production staff, journalists and recently signed elite sportspersons will no longer need to self-isolate on their return to England from a country not on the travel corridor list.

  42. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Advance Australia Fair in Eora language:

    Australiagal ya’nga yabun

    Eora budgeri

    Yarragal Bamal Yarrabuni

    Ngurra garrigarrang

    Nura mari guwing bayabuba

    Diara-murrahmah-coing

    Guwugu yago ngabay burrabagur

    Yirribana Australiagal

    Garraburra ngayiri yabun

    Yirribana Australiagal

  43. 132andBush

    Zulu,
    That’s an improvement!

  44. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    If I were disinvited from the Mardi Gras I’d take it as a compliment.

    “You can take your Mardi Gras

    And stick it up your….”

  45. Dot

    The BEST national anthem EVER: Incredible indigenous rendition of Advance Australia Fair leaves rugby fans with ‘goosebumps’ as every Wallabies player joins in – here are the lyrics everyone must learn

    Sure, let’s keep on aping NZ, last year we were told the anthem was racist, along with Australia Day.

    There is one Maori language.

    There are hundreds of Aboriginal languages.

    This is a shit idea.

  46. When it doesn’t suit the narrative certain facts are ignored.

    Many of those conscripted under the third National Service Scheme 1951-1957 ultimately saw service in the Malayan Emergency and afterwards in Vietnam. Cpl Ian Brown, killed on June 21 1966, was eligible for the same ‘Anniversary of National Service Medal 1951-1972’ as those National Servicemen of the fourth scheme who also saw service in South Vietnam. The countless Nashos from the third scheme who ultimately served in Vietnam were all volunteers. (That’s going to mess with the maths…)

    There are many circumstances of National Serviceman Brown’s death that can never fit the narrative. There are multiple awkward reasons why his death will be ignored

    If the Vietnam War is to be defined as a Civil War then the Malayan emergency and Confrontasi, which had it’s genesis in the Brunei Rebellion have to be also. A ridiculous proposition.

    Those national servicemen of the fourth scheme who saw active service in Borneo are completely ignored. Awkward.

    Even though National Servicemen of the fourth scheme fought and died in Borneo. They are written out of the Vietnam, Vietnam, Vietnam narrative because mention of these nasho embarrassments confirms the fact that Indonesia, not Vietnam was the raison d’être for the fourth National Service scheme. To protect the narrative this fact can never be admitted.

    Further, those fourth scheme Nashos who were killed in Borneo on active service must never be named. They are memory-holed due to narrative necessity. There were two of them, both accidently killed.

    A few weeks after the first accidental death of a fourth scheme Nasho in Vietnam – Errol Noack on May 24, 1966, Reg Brigland was killed in an accident in Borneo on July 31 1966.

    Noack still gets press. Brigland – crickets.

    Even more awkward is the fact that Brigland enlisted on call up and his service number became 3411676.
    (That one fact – is going to completely mind fuck someone who demonstrably cannot even work out basic percentage problems.)

    Sadly, on August 9 1966 (9 days before the fourth scheme nashos finest hour at the Battle of Long Tan) Geoff Mills was accidently killed in Borneo. Again Crickets.

    To sustain the narrative some National Servicemen have to be unpersoned.

    The members of the third national service scheme, who fought and died in Vietnam were all volunteers. None of them got the chance to chuck their “nasho medal” in the bin. Perhaps their descendants’ value it?

    Vietnam was not the only conflict that the men of the fourth scheme of Australian national service fought and died in. Those Veterans of Borneo cannot be ignored and must be remembered.

    The mind blowing cruelty of the Viet Cong communists was censored during the 1960’s and remains so today.

  47. FMD! Did anybody else happen to catch the start of the Wallabies – Pumas match?

    Raelene Castle may have left Australia, but they can’t remove her from the Wallabies.

    They couldn’t find anybody who knew the words to the national anthem.
    I’m not making this up!
    Some chick they roped in was a real good sport & agreed to do it for them, but she just hummed & haa’d the tune, like you do when you don’t know the words.

    Twenty Six million people in Australia, & those dickheads at Rugby Australia forgot to book a singer who knew the words to the national anthem.

  48. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The mind blowing cruelty of the Viet Cong communists was censored during the 1960’s and remains so today.

    South Vietnamese village headmen burned alive, their wives disemboweled, their children beheaded, but it’s all good, the Viet Cong were a bunch of gallant little Robin Hoods, fighting for their independence…

  49. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    When it doesn’t suit the narrative certain facts are ignored.

    Glad to see you, prismatic. The bin chicken will be tying himself in knots on this blog tomorrow….

    “Le Duan and Le Doc To – Their Part in My Victory.”

  50. jupes

    Australiagal ya’nga yabun
    Eora budgeri
    Yarragal Bamal Yarrabuni
    Ngurra garrigarrang
    Nura mari guwing bayabuba
    Diara-murrahmah-coing
    Guwugu yago ngabay burrabagur
    Yirribana Australiagal
    Garraburra ngayiri yabun
    Yirribana Australiagal

    Just. Fucking. No.

  51. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Fine then Tailgunner, let’s be scientific about this.
    [insert spooky music]
    According to warcroft’s “Q” theory, today in the USA there will be
    • [332] a “shutdown” where the patriots will “lose access” and
    • [305] something “about the BREAK”,
    • [341] also Obama’s presidential library will be raided.
    [fade spooky music.]
    So with Dec 5 having been going for only a few hours in USA we can check in 16 hours and review if any of these predictions actually happened.

    This is crazy, but I’ll try anything once. But only once.

  52. The mind blowing cruelty of the Viet Cong communists was censored during the 1960’s and remains so today.

    South Vietnamese village headmen burned alive, their wives disemboweled, their children beheaded, but it’s all good, the Viet Cong were a bunch of gallant little Robin Hoods, fighting for their independence…

    Pat Burgess a journalist of the old school wrote up an account of the the death of Ian Brown in Hoa Long Village for the Sydney Morning Herald in June 1966.

    Twenty years later in 1986 in his memoir ‘Warco, Australian Reporters at War’ he admits to self-censorship in his reporting of the incident.

    In Burgess’s opinion, he thought that in 1966 the Australian general public were not ready to tuck into their Weet Bix over the callous news that the pregnant teenage daughter of an ARVN soldier in Hoa Long had been expertly disembowelled to the point where both she and the foetus were still alive.

    This outrage was intended to be bait to provoke a Medcap response from the newly established Task Force base at Nui Dat which would then be ambushed. However the Provosts returning from a different errand arrived in town first. Collins and Brown were completely accidental victims. As their vehicle entered, the villagers of Hoa Long, possibly coerced, swarmed their Land Rover to slow and stop it. When the Land Rover stopped the villagers dropped and 4 VC opened fire killing Brown.

    As it turned out – the complicated bait was completely unnecessary.

    Perhaps Burgess was right. Perhaps nobody wants to hear about such things over their Weet Bix. In 1966, 1986 or now.

    Burgess in 1966 deliberately erroneously reported that the girl was injured in a self inflicted accident while “cutting maize.”

    In his memoir Burgess regretted not telling the truth – but couldn’t work out anyway that he possibly could…

    The AWM Commanders diaries record that 1ATF could have gone in mob handed. They didn’t. They went in softly, softly asked a few questions around town and readily got answers. They arrested the ambush bait “butcher” the next day.

    It was a woman.

    A point that will be lost on some – but not from Johnno…

  53. egg_

    let’s be scientific about this.

    This’ll be a larf, NPC.

  54. Steve trickler

    The top brass at Victoria University will be screaming “Oh Shit!”…. in a couple of days I reckon.

    Backdraft!



  55. Herodotus

    Instead of trading insults with Lucius and the Talking Llama, just keep an eye on Jo Nova’s site where she’s providing updates re what’s really going on.
    https://joannenova.com.au/

  56. calli

    It was a woman.

    Yes. I’m reminded of Kipling.

    Never, ever imagine that women in charge will give us a “softer” world. It’s a mirage.

    You only have to look at the US election fraud and the single-minded, ant-like operatives. Or the BLM riots and race baiting.

  57. calli

    Hero, that thread was fun at the start, now degenerated to Bird vs. Donut King. Lucius provided an excellent opportunity for a reasoned, point by point rebuttal. Thanks for the link to JoNova.

  58. Herodotus

    It was always going to be problematic reopening international flights.
    Already we have a couple of interlopers jumping a connecting flight to Melbourne and spreading the joy.
    Given Dan Andrews’ performance so far he could cancel Christmas over this.

  59. Herodotus

    “Glad to be of service” as the automatic doors said in Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, much to the disgust of Marvin. You are one of the bright spots in this vale of tearaways, calli.

  60. bespoke

    Steve trickler
    #3680986, posted on December 6, 2020 at 5:52 am

    Surely the guy can just not go?

  61. calli

    Too good not to highlight

    Our glorious “Media”

    I want one. And the Advent calendar too!

    An excellent WIP.

  62. Bruce of Newcastle

    Week In Pictures.

    Australians now ahead of Florida Man in the headlines.
    At least we’re succeeding at something.

  63. Steve trickler

    bespoke
    #3680998, posted on December 6, 2020 at 6:30 am

    Clarify.

    Are you defending the Uni?

  64. bespoke

    Week In Pictures.
    This 😁

    I have one that says “I’m not anti social just anti idiot”

  65. bespoke

    Are you defending the Uni?

    No not at all but they have no way to force him to attend the kangaroo court. Unless I missed something ( highly likely)

  66. calli

    The Vic Uni story is a lesson.

    Don’t waste your time.

    Do a Trade.

  67. herodotus

    The Texas National Security Review has a piece about the US Navy losing control of the Western Pacific, and how to regain it. Will this happen under a Biden-Harris administration?
    Read More.

  68. Steve trickler

    bespoke
    #3681012, posted on December 6, 2020 at 7:06 am
    Are you defending the Uni?

    No not at all but they have no way to force him to attend the kangaroo court. Unless I missed something ( highly likely)

    10 years means fuck all then? It is called taking a stand, Bespoke. Uni admin needs a proverbial clip around the ear.

  69. calli

    They destroyed that young man’s life over a private conversation. And continue to persue him. They need to be killed with fire.

    I’m not a particularly vindictive person (😀) but it would interest me to know what type of “psychologist” his creepy classmate becomes.

    Justice would have her practising on the bones of her bum while he’s swanning around in the SUV, jetski on the trailer. And the other car tucked away in the McMansion triple garage.

  70. bespoke

    Steve trickler
    #3681017, posted on December 6, 2020 at 7:15 am

    10 years means fuck all then? It is called taking a stand, Bespoke. Uni admin needs a proverbial clip around the ear.

    Chill! He has moved on and becoming a sparky so the the board has no authority over him and should be treated with contempt.

  71. calli

    That Prince Harry story reminded me of this.

    On many…many levels. 😂

  72. zyconoclast

    At Port Madoc in North Wales we see men riding down a hill on their way home from a quarry on little metal bars with three wheels. They sit on the bars that run over the inner quarry truck tracks and ride to the foot of the hill. The men stop at the bottom by means of a hand brake on their poles. An obviously staged accident shows one man coming off the track and several others toppling off after him. (1:27)

  73. Cassie of Sydney

    “They destroyed that young man’s life over a private conversation. And continue to persue him.”

    These same people call Trump a fascist!

  74. Cassie of Sydney

    CNN have now done a hit piece on Parler…..because Parler is becoming more popular by the day and so the MSM and Big Tech want to see it shut down or collapse. CNN is smearing Parler as a site for far-right neo-Nazis which just means it’s a site for anyone who doesn’t conform with the progressive left….

  75. Des Deskperson

    ‘They destroyed that young man’s life over a private conversation. And continue to persue him. They need to be killed with fire.’

    Victoria University was making a much more valuable contribution to the common weal – and probably behaving with more integrity – when it was the Melbourne School of Hairdressing.

  76. Des Deskperson

    I’ve been in Sydney supporting a friend who has undergone a serious and painful but not life threatening medical procedure.

    Diagonally across the road for the hospital is the Sydney Jewish Museum. Not surprisingly, it’s exhibits have a strong focus on the Holocaust.

    Between the hospital and the Museum is scruffy little park, one corner of which tends to be used by hospital staff on breaks. Another area is occupied by emaciated men who scream incoherently at one another.

    On the western boundary of the park, about 50 meters from the Museum, is a sculptural installation featuring a large pink triangle. This is the Gay and Lesbian Holocaust Memorial.

    The placement of a memorial that appears to equate the persecution of Gays and Lesbians with the Holocaust almost next door to a Jewish Museum seems odd. An unkind person might suggest that it was deliberately in one’s face. On the other hand, it maybe an agreed gesture of solidarity between two persecuted groups, one assumes, after all, that the Jewish Museum was consulted.

    To be fair, the G&L Memorial seems to be about the historic persecution in general of that group rather then just Nazi enmity. To its credit, the G&L Memorial coverage includes persecution by the Soviet Union.

  77. Leigh Lowe

    Tiny little anecdote about how Vic Uni’s low ranking was no barrier to the pomposity of it’s “leadership”.
    I once worked for a company which shared a city building with VU. Uni buildings have a higher density of people than normal office buildings and lifts work overtime.
    Anyway, the the Uni head-shed including the VC and his wife (not a Uni employee) and a couple of associated “dignitaries” had a number of lift keys and their minions would snag a lift and lock it off for them in anticipation of them leaving.
    Mrs VC apparently used to call ahead in traffic to make sure there was a lift waiting for her in the carpark when she arrived.

  78. areff

    CNN have now done a hit piece on Parler

    Parler is hitting itself. Have been trying to sign up for three weeks but keep getting endless CAPTCHA security checks. Have complained three times to Parler, each acknowledged with a promise to investigate, but no fix installed.

    Their users’ ledger would be even bigger if they could attend to the most basic need of all: allowing people to join.

  79. Nick

    I know of someone who is a diversity officer at a Victorian University. On women’s day, they sent letters out congratulating women and those who identified as such, having to be mindful of those ‘fluid’ souls who might not have identified as being a woman on that day, and thus being insulted, complaining.

    I feel sorry for the guy involved in the Vic Uni case. That’s far in excess of a proportionate response on their part.

  80. Cassie of Sydney

    “Parler is hitting itself. Have been trying to sign up for three weeks but keep getting endless CAPTCHA security checks. Have complained three times to Parler, each acknowledged with a promise to investigate, but no fix installed.

    Their users’ ledger would be even bigger if they could attend to the most basic need of all: allowing people to join.”

    Agree Areff….I have tried numerous times to join but I gave up in the end. I posted the Styx video to highlight how the MSM and the tech giants are now out destroy Parler, precisely because it provides an alternative platform to the sewer that is Twitter.

    Many people, over the last few years, have said in regards to Big Tech censorship…..”oh just create your own”…..etc…etc….etc. The thing, when there are new platforms such as Gab, Parler, Subscribestar and others, the left go after them in a frenzy to smear them and delegitimise them as havens for far-right neo nazis.

    We can’t win.

  81. Dot

    It goes back to banking licensing. It hinges on payment processors.

    No shit, try Mobi Money, or crypto.

    It would be hilarious of the western left tried to go after an African mobile phone credit system that turned into a new banking system.

  82. Mark A

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3681104, posted on December 6, 2020 at 9:40 am

    I would like to but I refuse to give my mobile number.
    Not even Google or FB insists on that, sure they ask for it but a refusal does not offend them.

  83. Leigh Lowe

    From memory, Vic Uni used to like to associate with a couple of luminaries in the East Timor independence movement (Gusmao?).
    Not sure if they are going to bat for those oppressed by the CCP.

  84. Nick

    Footy star Latrell Mitchell SLAMS the Wallabies for performing an indigenous rendition of Advance Australia Fair – saying changing the language of the national anthem ‘doesn’t change the meaning’

    Strangely, he has a point. Putting things in Aboriginal ‘languages’ achieves or does what ?

  85. Leigh Lowe

    Strangely, he has a point. Putting things in Aboriginal ‘languages’ achieves or does what ?

    Yes.
    If they did “Mammy” or “Camptown Races” in full minstrel garb, would it be OK if it was done in first nations lingo?

  86. Dot

    It was such bullshit though.

    A bunch of privileged, woke, gullible Shore dimwits and competent, money hungry Pacific Islanders listening to a Wiradjuri woman sing in Eora on behalf of the Gadigal.

    Singing an uninspiring anthem hardly anyone likes, heavily redacted.

  87. Nick

    The NZ National Anthem was first written in Maori and translated into English. It has an authenticity.
    We run the risk here in Australia of putting indigenous designs on everything, drawn up by those who have little idea of their own culture. The ‘dance’ that Adam Goodes did was crafted by kids on an AFL camp and was a hodge podge of tribal elements that would have had little to do with his own background.

    My point is the real racists are the ones that think by spouting any mambo jumbo that sounds indigenous, that they are paying respect.

  88. Nick

    A bunch of privileged, woke, gullible Shore dimwits and competent, money hungry Pacific Islanders listening to a Wiradjuri woman sing in Eora on behalf of the Gadigal.

    Nailed it.

  89. Win

    Well I voted for Waltzing Matilda and like every other poll plebiscite call it what you will it was a exercise in vacuousness as it was presumed determined by Hawke anyway.

  90. Nick

    Oh, and I’ll bet my last dollar that traditional Aboriginal culture wouldn’t allow a young woman to perform a greeting ritual. My point? If you’re going to go the indigenous route, get it right.

  91. Eyrie

    From memory, Vic Uni used to like to associate with a couple of luminaries in the East Timor independence movement (Gusmao?).
    Not sure if they are going to bat for those oppressed by the CCP.

    They sure wouldn’t.
    That idiot John Howard used Australian troops to install a bunch of Communists in government in East Timor.

  92. Old School Conservative

    A bunch of privileged, woke, gullible Shore dimwits and competent, money hungry Pacific Islanders listening to a Wiradjuri woman sing in Eora on behalf of the Gadigal.

    All correct but I take exception to the Shore descriptor. Unless it’s a generalisation. Looking at the school photo tells me you are right about the demographics.
    I have a boy at Shore and they have hardly won a rugby game for many years, and no-one has graduated to the Wallabies.

  93. Nick

    OSC. Word is there are issues at Shore at present. Five Hods gone and a number on the Executive.

  94. Tom

    Agree Areff….I have tried numerous times to join but I gave up in the end.

    As areff says, Parler is in the tech business and it can’t overcome even the most basic software snafus. Hopeless.

    The sociopathic Silicon Valley HTML-code-writing billionaires got to be billionaires because, before they started censoring their platforms, the set up their software to work like a dream.

  95. Roger

    Footy star Latrell Mitchell SLAMS the Wallabies for performing an indigenous rendition of Advance Australia Fair – saying changing the language of the national anthem ‘doesn’t change the meaning’

    Strangely, he has a point.

    No, he doesn’t.

    Presumably he’s referring to “young and free”.

    Australia as a nation has only existed since 1901, which is young in historical terms, esp. as compared with England, where most of our ancestors hailed from.

    There is no slight against indigenous folk intended – they never imagined themselves to be a nation inhabiting a continent.

    Mitchell is a divisive ratbag.

  96. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Footy star Latrell Mitchell SLAMS the Wallabies’

    Oh. Porky, sensitive pisswreck masquerading as a footballer slams multiple other equally useless footballers.

    Thrilling.

  97. Nick

    Roger, I know what you mean, though he makes another point he doesn’t realise.

  98. Leigh Lowe

    KD.
    I told Mrs L that Nafan Buckley was on the market again.
    She didn’t think it would be an upgrade.

  99. Knuckle Dragger

    Not to unnecessarily reprise the breakdown of a marriage – except that it’s Nathan Buckley’s, and to mention that the past week may have just been the greatest of his life:

    ‘A premiership still eludes the former Pies skipper turned coach who has been staying at a South Yarra apartment owned by good friend Paul Roberts, a sports executive at agency TLA.

    ‘The pad has served many heartbroken AFL types.

    ‘Geelong great Billy Brownless reportedly stayed there when his marriage with former wife Nicky Brownless was on the rocks. It’s understood James Brayshaw also spent some time living there when he was dealing with the breakdown of his marriage.’

    Points of note:
    1. They couldn’t resist yet another crack at Buckley’s premiership virginity, which is of course hilarious in the circumstances;
    2. This Roberts bloke should be AOTY; and
    3. Apparently it is now burned into the psyche of Australian men that when it all ends, regardless of circumstance that it’s the bloke who ends up on someone else’s couch because superior caregiving and nurturing. It’s a shit state of affairs that needs redress.

  100. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Oh, and I’ll bet my last dollar that traditional Aboriginal culture wouldn’t allow a young woman to perform a greeting ritual. My point? If you’re going to go the indigenous route, get it right.

    That’s an inconvenient truth.

  101. Knuckle Dragger

    If I may offer a comparison, which resonates both in football and other areas:

    Damien Hardwick, Wit-Mon* coach. Makes mention on occasion of ‘Mrs Hardwick’ in pressers and the like, mostly in lighter moments. Mrs Hardwick, however, is never seen parading her bolt-ons in public, is not a wether dressing up as lamb and does not spend her days trying her best to get herself added onto everyone else’s Insta.

    Sure, Buckley T’s no Nadia Bartel, Mardi Dangerfield (ewww) or Whatsername, Cochin’s squeeze in the influencer stakes, but at least those skanks are attempting to make some coin for themselves.

    As noted yesterday, Buckley has a head like a handful of gravel but will still pull some decent talent because profile. Mrs Buckley, welcome to the nunnery. Now, about that vow of silence.

  102. woolfe

    Can Rugby Australia go any lower? Why yes, yes they can.

    That rendition of our National Anthem was terrible and she didn’t even know the words.

  103. Knuckle Dragger

    Oops.

    *Allegedly, if you meet a person of Asian extraction in a Fitzroy or Flemington houso castle stairwell and they’re not being the ultimate citizen, and you ‘ask’ them where they live and if it’s Richmond, ‘Wit-Mon’ is the answer you’ll get.

  104. Stimpson J. Cat

    Sleeping outside my Doctor’s Office on a Sunday so that I am first in line to get the Russian Sputnik V Chinavirus Vaccine on Monday when they open.

    #WINNING!!!!

  105. thefrollickingmole

    Great, now we will have Stimpy posting with a Russian accent for the next 6 months till the injected vodka wears off.

  106. Tom

    I predict this will be tonight’s crowd chant: ‘FOX NEWS SUCKS!!!”

  107. Dr Faustus

    Their ABC’s Stan Grant extends an olive branch to China:

    As China hysteria reaches fever pitch, let’s not pretend morality is a good basis of foreign policy

    In summary, Stan tells us:

    Stan is an A1 world class China expert;
    China is an unapologetic, brutal tyranny – unchanged since Tiananmen Square – using repression and Cold War tactics to achieve World domination to avoid internal revolution because it is so shite;
    Australia and the West needs to grow up and accept this, give up on liberal values to avoid being called out as hypocrites, and make like Obama and Iran.

    It will be better that way. Apparently.

  108. Dr Faustus

    Presumably he’s referring to “young and free”.

    Suspect he’s referring to “wealth for toil”.

  109. Old School Conservative

    Nick
    #3681154, posted on December 6, 2020 at 10:24 am
    OSC. Word is there are issues at Shore at present. Five Hods gone and a number on the Executive.

    Yep. All dating from the appointment of the new headmaster.

  110. pete m

    Cam Smith and his wife send their kids to our school now they’ve moved to GC.

    Very sweet kids – lots didn’t believe them when they said who their dad was until they checked online pics of kids. Wife does not take after wags.

    Actually walked into a hall with them and didn’t notice it was them until my wife said the guy sitting right in front of us was him.

    Not sure where he will play next year but money would be on titans.

  111. Stimpson J. Cat

    Great, now we will have Stimpy posting with a Russian accent for the next 6 months till the injected vodka wears off.

    That’s actually a very serious and logical point:

    What are the potential side effects?

    I can live with a Russian accent and a craving for Vodka,
    but what if it turns me into a Commie?

    I may have to do some more dedicated online Twitter research before I inject an unknown substance into my veins.

    No need to act like an ignorant young Essendon Football player and just do what I’m told.

  112. Terry Pedersen

    Win #3681129, posted on December 6, 2020 at 10:00 am

    Well I voted for Waltzing Matilda and like every other poll plebiscite call it what you will it was a exercise in vacuousness as it was presumed determined by Hawke anyway.

    Win #3681130, posted on December 6, 2020 at 10:00 am

    Sorry Whitlam.

    Your initial presumption was correct. It was Hawke, not Whitlam, who gave Australia the national dirge.

  113. Des Deskperson

    I posted a comment earlier today noting that the ‘Gay and Lesbian Holocaust Memorial’ in Darlinghurst, Sydney was located almost next door to the Sydney Jewish Museum, which has a considerable – and understandable – focus on the Holocaust

    I suggested – arguably – that a memorial that appears to equate Gay and Lesbian persecution with the Holocaust might have been more appropriately located somewhere else.

    The comment went into moderation and has not come out. Why??

  114. thefrollickingmole

    I may have to do some more dedicated online Twitter research before I inject an unknown substance into my veins.

    Why start now?

    Its a Krockdil derivative not vodka.

    Take enough of it and you will become long term extremely stable.

  115. Terry Pedersen

    Nice looking girl, fine voice. The National Dirge is more like a National Anthem when sung that way.

  116. Des Deskperson

    ‘ Stan is an A1 world class China expert;’

    Stan is an A1 world class expert per se.

    Grant has morphed from a TV newsreader to an intellectual powerhouse with a mind that transverses the global entirety of current and historical philosophy, politics, history and culture.

    Do we think he might have had help?

  117. Entropy

    I don’t mind it, if a bit of a copy of singing the enzud anthem in Maori.

  118. woolfe

    sTan Grant gets his superior intellectual powers from the Tanning Saloon.

  119. Terry Pedersen

    she didn’t even know the words

    She was word perfect.

  120. Knuckle Dragger

    Should have had Ben Batterham sing it.

    Would have brought the house down.

  121. Des Deskperson

    ‘Nice looking girl,’

    Racist and sexist.

    Olivia Fox is a Proud Wiradjuri woman.

    And yes, the Channel 7 report actually used the descriptor, ‘proud’ , mandatory now, it would seem, in refering to any Indigenous woman

  122. egg_

    Grant has morphed from a TV newsreader to an intellectual powerhouse with a mind that transverses the global entirety of current and historical philosophy, politics, history and culture.

    He’s Aunty’s new International Affairs commentator or summut?

    He was as beetroot faced as anyone when Trump was ahead late on Aunty’s Election night Special, despite seemingly playing with a straight bat.

  123. egg_

    And yes, the Channel 7 report actually used the descriptor, ‘proud’ , mandatory now, it would seem, in refering to any Indigenous woman

    Is “proud local drunkard” an apt descriptor, nowadays?

  124. Nick

    Yep. All dating from the appointment of the new headmaster.

    I believe so. I’ve no skin in the game, though it’s been a topic of frenzied conversation for some who do

  125. Old School Conservative

    The wonderful Titaina McGrath strikes again:

    “I am so proud of Elliot Page for transitioning and becoming a beacon of hope for humanity.
    That said, now Page is a straight white man he is officially an oppressor and deserves nothing but our contempt.”
    #CancelElliotPage

    h/t Instapundit.

  126. Dot

    It’s totally not racist to have a Wiradjuri “girl” sing in Eora and make constant references to the Gadigal.

    It’s totally aware of privilege and can heal the nation and totally not tokenism.

  127. rickw

    she didn’t even know the words

    Hard to when it’s just mostly made up gobbledygook.

  128. Dot

    Strayans let us all rejoice, for Benny Batterham is free!
    He greased that Ricky sumbitch,
    Whose ice addled heart joyfully strained
    Now let us sing
    Ricky breathes no air!

  129. cohenite

    Good summary and breakdown of the official chunk virus approach:

    If the masks work—Why the six feet?
    If the six feet works—Why the masks?
    If both of the above work—Why the lockdowns?
    If all three of the above work—Why the vaccine?
    If the vaccine is safe—Why protect it with a no liability clause?
    If the vaccine is safe—Why not test it on animals first before using it on humans?
    If SARS-CoV-2 exists—Why has it never been isolated?
    If SARS-CoV-2 has never been isolated—How can an effective vaccine be developed?
    If the RT-PCR test works—Why so many false positives?
    If Kary Mullis, the inventor of the RT-PCR test who conveniently died in August 2019, says his test shouldn’t be used to diagnose infectious diseases—Why use it to detect SARS-CoV-2?
    If there is an epidemic—Why so many empty hospitals?
    If large numbers of people are dying from SARS-CoV-2—Why so many fake causes of death on death certificates?
    If SARS-CoV-2 exists—Why give doctors financial incentives to diagnose SARS-CoV-2?
    If the official COVID-19 narrative is defensible—Why censor people who dispute this narrative?

  130. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It’s totally not racist to have a Wiradjuri “girl” sing in Eora and make constant references to the Gadigal.

    It’s totally not racist to have a “Wiradjuri” girl sing in Eora and make constant references to the Gadigal.

  131. Tom

    “I am so proud of Elliot Page for transitioning and becoming a beacon of hope for humanity.
    That said, now Page is a straight white man he is officially an oppressor and deserves nothing but our contempt.”
    #CancelElliotPage

    Brilliant.

    The more these power hungry fascists are lampooned about their brain-damaged woke outrage machine, the harder it will be for them to walk the street without being laughed at.

  132. Tel

    That idiot John Howard used Australian troops to install a bunch of Communists in government in East Timor.

    Then went back for a second round in 2006 … trying to fix it up from the first time, and give Alkatiri a little push to resign.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Astute

    It all got less interesting after drilling for oil in the Timor Sea ended up something of a dud.

  133. Leigh Lowe

    It all got less interesting after drilling for oil in the Timor Sea ended up something of a dud.

    Not entirely a dud.
    Not if you were doing the lawyering or pre-feasibility engineering for the parties involved.

  134. Top Ender

    You people arguing about anthems and so on are missing the point.

    We have a perfectly acceptable one here. It has everything: humour, a moral, a message – go for it.

  135. Dot

    woolfe
    #3681286, posted on December 6, 2020 at 12:13 pm
    sTan Grant gets his superior intellectual powers from the Tanning Saloon.

    Hey, that’s a half truth!

  136. rickw

    The history of injection moulded AR-15 lowers:

  137. Snoopy

    What a shame that Tik Tok dance videos featuring otherwise idle on duty doctors and nurses have seemingly gone out of fashion. They were by far the best part of the Covid-19 pandemic.

  138. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The deputy governor of the Norwegian central bank, Jon Nicolaisen, announced on Friday he was resigning because his application for renewed security clearance had been rejected because he has a Chinese wife.

    “The Norwegian Civil Security Clearance Authority informs me that the reason that I will not receive a renewed security clearance is that my wife is a Chinese citizen and resides in China, where I support her financially,” Nicolaisen said. “At the same time, they have determined that there are no circumstances regarding me personally that give rise to doubt about my suitability for obtaining a security clearance, but that this does not carry sufficient weight.”

  139. Dr Faustus

    It all got less interesting after drilling for oil in the Timor Sea ended up something of a dud.

    A large part of the dudness came from handing de facto control to the Timor l’Este government fuckupcracy. The inevitable result has been that a technically difficult, frontier exploration province has been uprisked to the extent that nobody with skills and resources is prepared to work there anymore.

  140. calli

    cohenite
    #3681317, posted on December 6, 2020 at 12:49 pm
    Good summary and breakdown of the official chunk virus approach:

    Thanks, cohenite. Covers many of my questions plus some extra juicy ones I hadn’t thought of.

    Saved.

  141. JC

    Oh, look who’s trying to steal an election.

    Donald Trump’s campaign against the 2020 Presidential outcome undermines political legitimacy, but no side is blameless in America’s partisan election escalation. Witness the new Democratic effort to overturn the election result in Iowa’s 2nd Congressional District—which could be emulated in New York’s 22nd if Republicans win there too.

    Iowa’s state elections board on Monday certified Republican Mariannette Miller-Meeks’s victory in the 2nd district, flipping a seat currently held by a Democrat. But her opponent, Rita Hart, is dusting off a 1969 federal statute to have the House of Representatives pick the winner. That means Democrats in Washington could overrule Iowa voters to seat a co-partisan and grow their majority.

    The Iowa race was decided by six votes. The counting went on for weeks as 24 counties canvassed and recanvassed over 390,000 ballots, and lawyers from both sides haggled with election officials over machine counting, ballot qualifications and voter intent.

    Normally this exhaustive process would end matters. Not this year. Ms. Hart’s campaign said it will bypass an Iowa court appeal and ask the Committee on House Administration to intervene. The House has final say on its Members’ elections and the Supreme Court has held that courts can’t intervene in those decisions under the Constitution’s Article I.

    That means the count in Iowa’s 2nd District will become a political fight rather than a legal one. House Democrats in 1985 took advantage of the same process to reverse Indiana’s state certification of a Republican winner in a Congressional race. They refused to seat either candidate in January, and in May declared the Democrat the winner after their recount excluded 32 absentee votes.

    That was a polarizing moment in House history and it hasn’t been done since. But this is a year of breaking precedents, and the Democrats are well-equipped for the fight. Marc Elias, the Democratic election lawyer, helped use the courts to engineer changes to voting rules ahead of the 2020 election that benefited Democrats. Politico reports that his firm, Perkins Coie, is representing Ms. Hart. Given the sympathetic audience they are likely to enjoy in the House, Ms. Hart’s lawyers want to throw enough doubt on the outcome to give Democrats political cover to overturn the result.

    Perkins Coie is also in New York’s 22nd district upstate, where Democrat Anthony Brindisi is down by 12 votes in the preliminary final count to Republican Claudia Tenney. They want a judge to review county election board decisions on disputed ballots. Ms. Tenney’s lawyers warn in a court filing of “the perils of trying to recreate a Board’s findings in the absence of appropriate Board notations,” and ask the judge to put the race to an end.

    The judge, Scott DelConte, is a Democrat respected by conservatives. He has questioned whether he has “jurisdiction to continue to look at these ballots,” the Tenney filing notes. New oral arguments are set for Monday. If Mr. Brindisi can’t convince the judge, he could also end up asking the House to save his seat.

    One reason for the chaos in the district a month after election day is New York’s last-minute expansion of absentee voting, over Republican objections, which overwhelmed county election boards. Liberal voting rules helped make the race nearly impossible to resolve. That would make it especially brazen if national Democrats used their political power in the House to overturn the result that was finally delivered.

    Yet House Democrats are sweating, having lost at least 10 seats when they were supposed to gain that many. If Ms. Miller-Meeks and Ms. Tenney prevail, the House will likely be split 222-213, leaving the GOP five seats from a majority in 2022 and potentially narrowing Nancy Pelosi’s path to be re-elected as Speaker in January. The Democratic pressure to do everything in their power to prevent these two losses will be immense.

    Donald Trump’s unproven claims of election theft are damaging to public trust, but they’ve been going nowhere in court. Democrats could outright steal one or two House seats, while the media ignore the power grab. The way Democrats behave in these two disputed districts in the coming weeks will demonstrate the likely state of political norms in a post-Trump era.

  142. Dot

    Snoopy
    #3681355, posted on December 6, 2020 at 1:30 pm
    What a shame that Tik Tok dance videos featuring otherwise idle on duty doctors and nurses have seemingly gone out of fashion. They were by far the best part of the Covid-19 pandemic.

    Don’t start me. The Coke ads with Chinese doctors doing some rather lame dancing made me want to blind myself with some pidgin rum.

    Hold the Coke.

  143. Arky

    A large part of the dudness came from handing de facto control to the Timor l’Este government fuckupcracy. The inevitable result has been that a technically difficult, frontier exploration province has been uprisked to the extent that nobody with skills and resources is prepared to work there anymore.

    Australia had better pull it’s finger out WRT East Timor. The economic viability is moot if it is financed under belt and road, in fact, it’s a perfect debt trap:
    ..

    Dili: Millions of dollars of Chinese heavy machinery and at least 20 Chinese workers are sitting idle on East Timor’s south coast, waiting to resume work on multimillion-dollar infrastructure projects.

    On a trip to Suai, a town of about 9000 people on East Timor’s remote south coast, The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age visited two of the five camps that at their peak housed up to 500 Chinese workers and 1000 locals during construction of the first stage of a sprawling four-lane expressway that will eventually stretch 156 kilometres from Suai to Beaco.

  144. C.L.

    Australia’s McCain-Romney ‘conservatives’ continue to do what they do best: sell out in order to be Nice and Liked by leftists.

    Chris Kenny in The Australian wants the Aboriginal industry to have a “voice” (code for veto) vis-a-vis Parliament:

    Why Indigenous Australians must have their say.

    What it will not be is a “third chamber” — the damaging tag given to it by those who seek to elevate the proposal in order to shoot it down. (Barnaby Joyce was one who used this tactic but then admitted the term was nonsense and should not be used to undermine the proposal). The voice will be strictly advisory, limited in scope, and focused only on Indigenous issues.

    A voice is not about perpetuating a victim mentality; rather it is about asserting self-reliance.

    It’s actually embarrassing reading a supposedly tuned-in conservative writing something like that and believing it.

    It is all too easy, especially for those of us who are not in daily contact with disadvantaged Indigenous communities, to harden our hearts, talk about all the spending and programs invested in this area, point to the opportunities available for all in this nation, and dismiss the entire issue as mere special pleading.

    It is harder to think of the differing prospects for two children born in this country today. The Indigenous child faces significantly lower prospects of surviving to adulthood, completing an education, getting a job, staying out of jail, enjoying good health and living into old age than the non-Indigenous baby. These are the gaps we must close. Parliaments and governments must find a way, and it is not too much to ask that a formal Indigenous representative body gives them some guidance.

    No, Chris. It’s not too much to ask that Aborigines look after their own fucking children. And yeah – that they stop sexually abusing them on a massive scale.

  145. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘not too much to ask that a formal Indigenous representative body gives them some guidance’

    As to the best way to obtain more and better free stuff, wrapped in somebody else’s cash to better their own personal circumstances and that of their immediate family whilst giving the giant middle finger to people who could actually use it for its intended purpose.

  146. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Chris Kenny in The Australian wants the Aboriginal industry to have a “voice” (code for veto) vis-a-vis Parliament:

    550 comments so far, and very few supporting the “voice” – Most are along the lines of “look after your children and stop trashing your houses.”

  147. thefrollickingmole

    The voice will be strictly advisory, limited in scope, and focused only on Indigenous issues.

    Right up there with “Ill only put the tip in” and “I wont do that thing you dont like in your mouth, again”.

    The Indigenous child faces significantly lower prospects of surviving to adulthood, completing an education, getting a job, staying out of jail, enjoying good health and living into old age than the nonIndigenous baby

    Why?

  148. cohenite

    Fucking 3rd nations have a voice; every election, like every other Australian citizen, they can vote.

    Or since the bastards walked here 15000 bya, they can put on their thongs and piss off.

    Their land my arse.

  149. Top Ender

    Dunno how many tribes there are of Aboriginal Australians, but a quick search suggests 500 or more

    So for each tribe to have a “voice” that would mean 500 representatives, all being paid, one presumes.

    And a voting process, and a controller, generally called a Speaker, and a staff?

    It really sounds like a super ATSIC, and that did more harm than good.

  150. Tel

    Not if you were doing the lawyering or pre-feasibility engineering for the parties involved.

    I must have been sleeping in the day that particular gravy train left the station. I’m not even slightly sore about it, but I sure see this as a great time to once more blame John Howard and his numpty “conservative” supporters. Possibly the most anti-liberty PM this country ever had.

  151. thefrollickingmole

    This thread needs more catgirls.

    The addition of cat ears makes it sophisticated

  152. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It really sounds like a super ATSIC, and that did more harm than good.

    I’ll bet good money it will put ATSIC in the shade, and I’ll bet I could name who will be on the gravy train

  153. Top Ender

    Dunno who’s on the Oz moderator job today but they are pretty relaxed.

    My comment above, copied and pasted, just got up, under Chris Kenny’s article.

  154. Rockdoctor

    E Timor were able to fleece Australia but enabled by the UN. Time I went there it was crawling with Chinese & Aussie do gooders. I’ll have to ask someone I know from Woodside but an educated guess is that corruption is the main reason Woodside doesn’t want a bar of it. Chinese companies were regularly out bidding Australian companies and providing shoddy outcomes. As for the 4 lane Hwy, good luck with that. I know of a mamoth effort put in near Balibo by RAE engineers with all the mod cons not the cheap crap the Chicoms will build, lasted a couple of years.

    Meh, Chinese will get burnt in the end anyway. E Timor had corruption unlike anything else I have seen in Asia.

  155. max

    Watching Stan’s fawning ‘interview’ with intellectual fossil, Stephen Fry the other night was amusing. Stan was doing pretty pirouettes, pleased to be talking with someone he considers an equal. Fry, who has never been in danger of having an original thought couldn’t have been less interested. I sympathised.

  156. Boambee John

    Politico reports that his firm, Perkins Coie, is representing Ms. Hart.

    The same firm that handled the money side of the Shrillary campaign hiring a failed James Bond to liaise with Russian intelligence to cook up the bogus Wussia, Wussia, Wussia dossier?

    The Cheatorats have their crooked lawyers on tap?

  157. Morsie

    Re VIC Uni above it may be a rumour but I believe that one year the ATAR score you needed to get into law there was 29 out of 100

  158. jo

    max
    #3681430, posted on December 6, 2020 at 2:54 pm

    Watching Stan’s fawning ‘interview’ with intellectual fossil, Stephen Fry the other night was amusing. Stan was doing pretty pirouettes, pleased to be talking with someone he considers an equal. Fry, who has never been in danger of having an original thought couldn’t have been less interested. I sympathised.

    Seem to recall Christopher Hitchens saying Stephen Fry is a morons idea of an intellectual.

  159. H B Bear

    It really sounds like a super ATSIC, and that did more harm than good.

    The blackfellas have more trouble agreeing than The People’s Front of Judaea.

  160. jo

    H B Bear you mean The People of Judea Front.

  161. Roger

    H B Bear you mean The People of Judea Front.

    No…no; that was a break away group after the great purge.

  162. Mitch M.

    The Indigenous child faces significantly lower prospects of surviving to adulthood, completing an education, getting a job, staying out of jail, enjoying good health and living into old age than the non-Indigenous baby. These are the gaps we must close. Parliaments and governments must find a way, and it is not too much to ask that a formal Indigenous representative body gives them some guidance.

    No, Chris. It’s not too much to ask that Aborigines look after their own fucking children. And yeah – that they stop sexually abusing them on a massive scale.

    What is the most important variable in life outcomes: Not governments, not policies, not money. It is the childhood home environment. Fix that and that gaps will being to close. The reason why all the current interventions don’t work is because they barely address that variable. We have to keep raising that point but unsurprisingly no-one does because that puts indigenous parenting under scrutiny.

    A teacher noted that a young aboriginal boy was always falling asleep in class. Eventually she asked him why he wasn’t getting enough sleep at home. With tears in his eyes he explained that every night he had to round up the young girls and take them to sleep away from the adult males who would come at night to rape them. That’s fucking horrendous.

  163. Old School Conservative

    Love or money – the tough decisions.

    The head of Norway’s sovereign wealth fund, the biggest investor of its kind, worth $US1.2 trillion ($1.6 trillion), has been forced to resign because his Chinese wife is considered a security risk.

    Jon Nicolaisen, 61, failed a security check eight months after taking over the fund, built on Norwegian oil revenue, which owns almost 1.5 per cent of every listed company in the world. (The Australian)

  164. bespoke

    A teacher noted that a young aboriginal boy was always falling asleep in class. Eventually she asked him why he wasn’t getting enough sleep at home. With tears in his eyes he explained that every night he had to round up the young girls and take them to sleep away from the adult males who would come at night to rape them. That’s fucking horrendous.

    Brave boy.

  165. Dr Faustus

    What is the most important variable in life outcomes: Not governments, not policies, not money. It is the childhood home environment.

    True in functioning societies everywhere. And outside the legitimate scope of government too.
    A bit of an elephant in the room, really.

  166. H B Bear

    True in functioning societies everywhere. And outside the legitimate scope of government too.
    A bit of an elephant in the room, really.

    And why the heterosexual family unit has been under attack from the Left since forever.

  167. areff

    Good wrap with latest from Light-fingered Ruby, the ballot stuffer

  168. thefrollickingmole

    I think there is deep wisom in some of the quotes you find on the internet.

    This one will surprise a lot of people who recognize the chaps name.
    https://www.azquotes.com/author/31969-Russ_Meyer

  169. egg_

    This sums up Covid-1984 very well.

    ……. the last nine months have been nothing but an absolutely dedicated, well organized and diligent global effort to re-brand the common flu as a devastating pandemic just barely under control.

    Trump mentioned in today’s speech that it had wrecked some Economies – only the rich can afford the Plandemic!

  170. kaysee

    There are leaders out there prepared to stand up to dictators.
    Sheriff Bianco from Riverside County delivers his message.

  171. Nick

    The Telegraph

    Two “drag queens” are suing Christian crusader Lyle Shelton for criticising their library performances with children, in a landmark $20,000 legal fight.

  172. Cassie of Sydney

    “A teacher noted that a young aboriginal boy was always falling asleep in class. Eventually she asked him why he wasn’t getting enough sleep at home. With tears in his eyes he explained that every night he had to round up the young girls and take them to sleep away from the adult males who would come at night to rape them. That’s fucking horrendous.”

    It’s dystopian. This is what Jacinta Price talks about….forget about more more failed tokenism such as “the voice” which just makes inner city elites feel good, we need to deal with the real daily horrendous issues effecting indigenous communities.

  173. Cassie of Sydney

    Nick
    #3681537, posted on December 6, 2020 at 5:10 pm
    The Telegraph

    Two “drag queens” are suing Christian crusader Lyle Shelton for criticising their library performances with children, in a landmark $20,000 legal fight.”

    Bet they win too.

  174. egg_

    Chillin’ funk soul brother.

  175. thefrollickingmole

    The stupidest thing you will read today.

    Shareholders can’t force businesses to act morally. But governments can
    Phillip Inman

    This vapid shitweasel thinks because Smith relied on the morality of his businessmen to promote the “greater good”, lack of religiosity among businesspeople now means government must set morals instead.

    Because government is such a good arbiter of morality.

    The bible in question was written by Adam Smith, the 18th-century Scottish moral philosopher and economist whose phrase “the invisible hand” is trotted out by every pro-market evangelist keen to justify the idea that governments should let businesses get on with selling, unfettered except by the most basic regulations.

    Milton Friedman, the monetarist guru to Margaret Thatcher’s top advisers, was cited as wantonly abusing Smith’s arguments – though there were many others still making a living in the world’s rightwing thinktanks who perpetrated the same misreading, Carney said.

    Smith used the phrase just once in his most important book, The Wealth of Nations (and only three times in his entire canon). But he devoted many pages to the need for an active state and, after observing their effects on fellow humans, the idea that rich owners of capital should observe a higher morality that circumscribes their activities.

    Smith lived in a religious age and appealed to the charity of his readers. Without religion, chief executives have only the profit motive and the bonus to guide them. And with capital often in the hands not of a single owner-manager but of millions of shareholders, it is less clear to voters and the public at large how Smith’s moral sentiments can be translated into action today.

    Only cross-party, popular action, forcing governments to impose rules on corporate behaviour, can inject some morality where so little manifestly exists.

    If you want a secure career as a catamite, scribing pro government/ regulation/snivel serpent propaganda seems to be a steady line of work.

  176. kaysee

    BLM gets a lesson in how ‘trained Marxism’ really works, as leader rakes in millions while chapters get nothing

    While the Black Lives Matter Global Network [BLMGN], led by ‘trained Marxist’ Patrisse Cullors, embraced the windfall of donations following the George Floyd protests across America, local chapters say they were left holding the bag.

    It was through the hard work of “radical black organizers” engaging in a “protracted struggle for our lives against police terrorism” that Black Lives Matter attracted millions of dollars in contributions this year, yet the BLMGN only recently invited selected chapters to apply for a $500,000 grant, ten chapters from across the US said in a statement this week.

    “This is not the equity and financial accountability we deserve,” they declared.

    BLMGN raked in millions using ActBlue, the fundraising platform serving the Democratic party, and while legions of fact-checkers insisted that none of that funding spilled over to the DNC or any campaigns, the Democrats admitted they also had a record fundraising haul paralleling the Floyd riots.

    Having been trained in Marxism myself many years ago, in a country that’s no longer around, I recall all too well how in “scientific socialism” everyone is supposed to contribute according to their ability and receive according to their need. What happens in practice, however, is that this incentivizes the needs to grow – and abilities to diminish.

    That’s even before the people in charge – who already believe they are “more equal than others” by the virtue of that, as George Orwell put it in ‘Animal Farm’ – decide that their needs are near-infinite. And since there’s a finite amount of wealth to be re-distributed, that means the needs of the many must amount to nearly nil. When the two inevitabilities converge… well, you get the picture.

    Therefore, it is only right and proper that the activists on the ground get nothing while the leaders such as Cullors, or the Democrats piggybacking on the movement, get to laugh all the way to the bank. Complain all you want, but this is part and parcel of the ideology you signed up for.

  177. cohenite

    Two “drag queens” are suing Christian crusader Lyle Shelton for criticising their library performances with children, in a landmark $20,000 legal fight.”

    Bet they win too.

    They failed in the HRC so are now sniffing around in QCAT which can award compensation to sniffers like these 2. QCAT awards are appealed to the QSCA.

  178. kaysee

    Dr. Wodarg and Dr. Yeadon request a stop of all corona vaccination studies and call for co-signing the petition

    On December 1, 2020, the ex-Pfizer head of respiratory research Dr. Michael Yeadon and the lung specialist and former head of the public health department Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg filed an application with the EMA, the European Medicine Agency responsible for EU-wide drug approval, for the immediate suspension of all SARS CoV 2 vaccine studies, in particular the BioNtech/Pfizer study on BNT162b (EudraCT number 2020-002641-42).

    Dr. Wodarg and Dr. Yeadon demand that the studies – for the protection of the life and health of the volunteers – should not be continued until a study design is available that is suitable to address the significant safety concerns expressed by an increasing number of renowned scientists against the vaccine and the study design.

    A detailed analysis of the tests, papers and processes followed in vaccine trials.
    43-page Petition/Motion for Administrative/Regulatory Action

  179. johanna

    Old School Conservative
    #3681499, posted on December 6, 2020 at 4:14 pm

    Love or money – the tough decisions.

    The head of Norway’s sovereign wealth fund, the biggest investor of its kind, worth $US1.2 trillion ($1.6 trillion), has been forced to resign because his Chinese wife is considered a security risk.

    Jon Nicolaisen, 61, failed a security check eight months after taking over the fund, built on Norwegian oil revenue, which owns almost 1.5 per cent of every listed company in the world. (The Australian)

    Don’t know if The Oz mentioned it, but I read elsewhere that one of the major concerns about this bloke is that his ‘wife’ lives in China while he lives in Norway. Bit of an unconventional arrangement there, I would have thought.

  180. Rockdoctor

    Noice, “vapid shitweasel'” lol love it frollicking. I hope you don’t mind if I borrow.

  181. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Just watched that young man from Victoria University who had his career wrecked for cracking a private Facebook joke. It’s unbelievable that he should have been so hounded and disparaged on the basis of such a one-off callow joke that was clearly said in jest and for which he immediately apologised when he realised his erstwhile friend was offended. I hope he seeks some financial compensation from this obviously very poorly run university, number 33 in Australia, and not in much of a position to put off any further capable students like this young man. Who would want to go there now?

    Hope he makes a fortune in his new career as an electrician and uses his academic skills to write a best-selling expose of his wrecked youth at Victoria University.

  182. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Helen Garner (leftie, but sort of OK) has written a few books exposing such politically correct idiocy and what it’s like to get ground under its thumb. I’m thinking of him writing something like that, with help if necessary. These stories need to be told, in all of their awful vindictiveness.

  183. Dot

    This thread needs more catgirls.

    If a catgirl, mothgirl or dragon girl approaches, ask if she’s been good.

    Good girls get headpats.

    https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/blade-devil-ghosts-of-the-past-graphic-novel#/

  184. johanna

    That would be a good project, Lizzie.

    What annoys me about these gotchas that ruin people’s lives is that there would be hardly anyone who could not be gotchad if every word they ever said or wrote was available for perusal by our new arbiters. It’s a hit and miss exercise in social control based on whether some unfortunate person said or wrote something that is captured on social media, and breaks the noo rools that were applied as of yesterday.

    I do wish that people would stop apologising to these jackbooters and start telling them to stick it up their collective jumper. The myth that this PC rubbish holds the endorsement of the majority of the population needs to be confronted. It’s simply not true, as the election of Trump, that loathsome prick Johnson, and Morrison demonstrate. Each of them had opponents who were in full suck-up mode to our would-be social arbiters.

    It is hilarious to watch the sporting codes, especially the football codes, try to turn their uncouth yobs into caring SJWs. The cognitive dissonance must be excruciating. 🙂

  185. thefrollickingmole

    Dot.

    That had a $500 US funding goal.

    $335,238 AUD
    Currency Conversion

    Value converted from $248,911 USD raised of $500 USD goal.
    Edit Currency Settings
    by 3,584 backers

    Never underestimate the power of fanservice.

  186. kaysee

    The rational argument about the Global Climate Change Warming topic would convince those with the powers of reason that the topic is a hoax. Instead of using up words and logic, we should apply the adage, A picture is worth a thousand words, and use that for our debates with the other side.

    I am going to collect some, and post under the Catallaction Club. But for now, here are two that I’ve already posted. If you can, print or make posters and hand over to those worried that our poor planet is burning up, because we have not been making the necessary sacrifices.

    The Czar and The Czarina

    If you have any examples (and sources) with simple messages to highlight the hypocrisy, please contribute and I will add to the list. Such as the Obama house with views of the Atlantic ocean. Or Raindrop Harry’s mansion.

  187. Cassie of Sydney

    “Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #3681592, posted on December 6, 2020 at 6:38 pm
    Helen Garner (leftie, but sort of OK) has written a few books exposing such politically correct idiocy and what it’s like to get ground under its thumb. I’m thinking of him writing something like that, with help if necessary. These stories need to be told, in all of their awful vindictiveness.”

    Agree Lizzie. As for Garner, she is without a doubt one of Australia’s finest writers….who can forget The First Stone, Joe Cinque’s Consolation and This House of Grief.

  188. Dot

    I own two mugs and broke a third one at work.

    Get a ten pack of Blade Devil…

    This is the way forward. DC and Marvel are dying.

    Thank god.

  189. thefrollickingmole

    Joe Cinque’s Consolation is one of the most miserable books Ive ever read.

    And I mean that in a good way.
    It just fills you with dread and follows it up with injustice and grief.

  190. Cassie of Sydney

    “thefrollickingmole
    #3681614, posted on December 6, 2020 at 7:02 pm
    Joe Cinque’s Consolation is one of the most miserable books Ive ever read.

    And I mean that in a good way.
    It just fills you with dread and follows it up with injustice and grief.”

    Yep…I found the book incredibly hard to read.

  191. kaysee

    Why can’t Cardinal Pell’s media critics let go?
    In the logic of true believers, if he looks innocent, he must be guilty.

    “A man with a conviction is a hard man to change. Tell him you disagree and he turns away. Show him facts or figures and he questions your sources. Appeal to logic and he fails to see your point.”

    ……………. As the grizzled newspaper editor said in one of John Wayne’s last films: “This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.”

    The article is here.

  192. thefrollickingmole

    DC and Marvel are dying

    Cant be too soon.

    I mean imagine launching this syphilis filled wad of cock cheese on the poor suffering public.
    http://www.multiversitycomics.com/news/i-am-not-starfire/
    Full synopsis:

    Seventeen-year-old Mandy Koriand’r is not her mother. Daughter of Starfire and high school outcast, Mandy is constantly trying to get out from under the shadow of her bright, bubbly, scantily clad, and famous mother. Dyeing her bright orange hair black and sticking close to her best friend, Lincoln, Mandy spends her days at school avoiding Teen Titans superfans and trying to hide her feelings for the gorgeous, popular, and perfect Claire. And while Mandy usually avoids spending too much time with her alien mother, she’s been particularly quiet as she’s keeping one major secret from her: Mandy walked out of her S.A.T.

    While Mandy continues to tell Lincoln her plans of moving to France to escape the family spotlight and not go to college, she secretly hides a fear of not knowing her identity outside of just being the daughter of a superhero and who she will become. But when she is partnered with Claire to work on a school project, their friendship develops into something more and a self-confidence unknown to Mandy begins to bloom. Claire seems to like Mandy for being Mandy, not the daughter of Starfire.

    But when someone from Starfire’s past comes to disrupt Mandy’s future, Mandy must finally make a choice: give up before the battle has even begun, or step into the unknown and risk everything. I Am Not Starfire is a story about mother-daughter relationships, embracing where you come from while finding your own identity, and learning to be unafraid of failing, if it was even failing in the first place.

  193. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    I do not have the time to check out the names behind the strong voices belting the defence department toy soldiers at the very top of the Australian army etc.

    Channel Seven just broadcast that gutless turd Campbell continuing to dump garbage on the men for whom he is responsible.

    A week after he was exposed as a dishonorable grub Campbell is still at it, bagging better men. Who did he pay to get that job, how much did it cost him? He surely did not earn it.

  194. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘learning to be unafraid of failing’

    Edited synopsis:

    Mandy is a failure.

  195. Dot

    Mandy Koriand’r looks like the lovechild of Starfire and Danny se Vito’s Penguin

    At least she doesn’t want to go to college.

  196. thefrollickingmole

    At least she doesn’t want to go to college.

    Worse, she wants to go to France and braid her girlfriends armpit hair.

  197. C.L.

    Goodfellas on FTA tonight. Will I couch-surf and channel-flip through my 800th viewing of what has been called “the greatest guy film” ever made?

    Probably.
    ————
    Funny how?

  198. Dot

    Please shut up C.L.

    Now go home and get your fuckin’ shinebox.

  199. Bruce of Newcastle

    Such as the Obama house with views of the Atlantic ocean.

    Here’s one:

    Frequent flyer and multi-homeowner Barack Obama disapproves of your lifestyle (5 Dec)

    His Martha’s Vineyard mansion is about a metre above the dramatically rising sea level. Maybe he plans to put it up on stilts or something.

  200. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘One dog goes one way, the other dog goes the other way, and this guy’s sayin’, ‘Whadda ya want from me?”

    ‘We hit a deer, Ma.’

  201. Leigh Lowe:

    I once worked for a company which shared a city building with VU. Uni buildings have a higher density of people than normal office buildings and lifts work overtime.
    Anyway, the the Uni head-shed including the VC and his wife (not a Uni employee) and a couple of associated “dignitaries” had a number of lift keys and their minions would snag a lift and lock it off for them in anticipation of them leaving.
    Mrs VC apparently used to call ahead in traffic to make sure there was a lift waiting for her in the carpark when she arrived.

    Sounds about par for the course.
    It’s one of the reasons I really don’t give a damn about the Universities going broke.

  202. MatrixTransform

    Joe Cinque’s Consolation is one of the most miserable books Ive ever read.

    written by Lionel Murphy

  203. Dot

    mole

    Have you seen Chargeman Ken?

    The second worst anime ever, apparently.

    No fucking half dead cetaceans though.

    Onto read up on Twinkle Nora Rock Me.

    The worst, apparently.

  204. calli

    Just finished watching Sitting Bull. Not bad, although the fateful hillside looked like the MGM back lot.

    The Alamo did not feature.

  205. Areff:

    Parler is hitting itself. Have been trying to sign up for three weeks but keep getting endless CAPTCHA security checks. Have complained three times to Parler, each acknowledged with a promise to investigate, but no fix installed.

    Same here. I’ve tried now over a dozen times to get past the captcha roadblock, without success.
    Just about to give up.

  206. Knuckle Dragger

    Anime. Tentacles.

    Westerns.

    A niche market just opened up.

  207. johanna

    Helen Garner is probably the pick of the crop of fiction writers of her vintage.

    Re the endless examples of our betters not following the rules – it’s quite simple when you understand that this applies to all rules in their mindset. So, the seas will rise, but not on their coastal home, the virus will infect others, but not them, and so on.

    None of the rules apply to them, including the ones they compel others to follow. They are special.

  208. Egg:

    Is “proud local drunkard” an apt descriptor, nowadays?

    For me, it is.

  209. Dot

    Quality Japanese Animation.

    This episode of Chargeman Ken is the father of all memes.

    “Tee hee, I made a mistake!”

  210. Leigh Lowe

    It’s one of the reasons I really don’t give a damn about the Universities going broke.

    I am not a fan of wage controls, but I reckon any government would be on a winner restricting Vice Chancellor (and all university salaries) to less than $400k.

  211. Roger

    Goodfellas on FTA tonight. Will I couch-surf and channel-flip through my 800th viewing of what has been called “the greatest guy film” ever made?

    Don’t be silly.

    The greatest bloke films ever made were The Great Escape & Zulu.

    The later fascination with Italo-American mobsters signifies cultural decline.

  212. Digger

    Areff:

    Parler is hitting itself. Have been trying to sign up for three weeks but keep getting endless CAPTCHA security checks. Have complained three times to Parler, each acknowledged with a promise to investigate, but no fix installed.

    Same here. I’ve tried now over a dozen times to get past the captcha roadblock, without success.
    Just about to give up.

    I got through first time. They are tricky but doable. If you have any way of showing me I will try and give you the answer…

  213. C.L.

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz is for Zulu.
    The Great Escape is pure cornball.

  214. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘This episode of Chargeman Ken is the father of all memes.’

    Displays what’s wring with today’s society. A decent belt across the chops from Mum sorts out a lot of shit.

  215. Leigh Lowe

    The most uplifting bloke fillems of all time are “The Full Monty” and “Billy Elliot”.

  216. Knuckle Dragger

    At one point in history, Lawrence of Arabia was the greatest bloke movie of all time.

  217. C.L.

    Helen Garner is probably the pick of the crop of fiction writers of her vintage.

    Garner also stood up to the “harassment” hysterics in The First Stone (1992). I remember reading her reaction to the police being called in to Ormond College.

    “The police?” she wrote, incredulous.

    Nearly 30 years later, there’s an anonymous bimbo dragging some poor bastard through the courts every other day.

    The cover-your-arse view of DPPs today is ‘just charge him and see what happens.’

  218. Dot

    Displays what’s wring with today’s society. A decent belt across the chops from Mum sorts out a lot of shit.

    That made me laugh.

  219. Eyrie

    I am not a fan of wage controls, but I reckon any government would be on a winner restricting Vice Chancellor (and all university salaries) to less than $400k.

    How about no public servant makes more than $400,000 including all the pollies.

  220. drbeaugan

    I joined parler without problems. The capcha is case sensitive.

  221. Knuckle Dragger

    Goodfellas. Tombstone (the ‘I’m in mah prime’ one). Reservoir Dogs.

    The original Highlander. Cobra. The Untouchables. Casino. Scarface.

    Pulp Fiction. Predator. Aliens. Wick I, II and III. All the Expendables ones. Terminator II. Each minute of every Dirty Harry movie. Training Day.

    Every one of them better than TGE.

  222. drbeaugan

    And you have to put +61 in the space currently with +1.

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