VD Day

Victory over Donald Day, that is. And how LIQ does glory in his Beta-male soy-boy triumph: Biggest Loser he calls the President. I have combed through his post, and the comments of all those who take the same side, and have yet to find an argument. It is true that Donald Trump will not be President at the end of this month and Joe Biden will be. Why that is a good thing has yet to be explained, and so far as I can tell, cannot be explained unless;

  • the aim is for America to sign the Paris Accords
  • the aim is for Iran to have nuclear weapons
  • the aim is to make wearing masks a permanent feature across the United States
  • the aim is to wreck small business
  • the aim is to create a permanent underclass of unemployed welfare recipients.

I’m sure there are other reasons I am missing, but these will do for now.

The one certainty I have is that the President did not wish to see anyone invading Capitol Hill. And there is mounting evidence that it was Antifa that led that particular charge, as  in this: Former FBI Agent on the Ground at US Capitol Says at Least One Bus Load of Antifa Thugs Infiltrated Trump Demonstration. I can imagine that this was something that the media-Democrat alliance would have been happy to see, which is why it is actually reported in the press and on the news.

If it is really true that an Antifa leader really did take the photo of the one fatality in the protest inside the Capitol – Why Was Founder Of Far-Left BLM Group Filming Inside Capitol As Police Shot Protester? – then the issue is settled. But to be honest, it doesn’t matter at all if it was entirely a pro-Trump  crowd inside the building. They were not sent there by the President.

So now we have VD Day, where these toxic fools can revel in their triumph over good policy, personal freedom and the American Constitution. They really are toxic imbeciles with not an argument available other than the wish to have power in their hands so that the Hunter Bidens and Hillary Clintons of the world can profit at our expense. As for policy, these people have not a thing to add to the debate.

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290 Responses to VD Day

  1. 1735099

    Twitter’s ban on Trump is common sense.
    When an individual has the power to create a big lie (that the election was stolen) and then uses it cynically to attempt to hold on to that power and people get killed as a result, they would be irresponsible as a corporation to turn a blind eye. Apart from the moral dimension, they could find themselves the target of expensive litigation.
    The fact that the individual in question is the POTUS makes their action even more necessary.
    It has nothing to do with free speech or Left or Right.
    It is simply, an example of prudent corporate behaviour.

  2. Struth

    Twitter’s ban on Trump is common sense.
    When an individual has the power to create a big lie (that the election was stolen) and then uses it cynically to attempt to hold on to that power and people get killed as a result, they would be irresponsible as a corporation to turn a blind eye. Apart from the moral dimension, they could find themselves the target of expensive litigation.
    The fact that the individual in question is the POTUS makes their action even more necessary.
    It has nothing to do with free speech or Left or Right.
    It is simply, an example of prudent corporate behaviour.

    Der Fuhrer numbers has decreed it to be so, his judgement is final.
    It’s common sense to silence those people that insane people think are dangerous.

  3. Dot

    It would be common sense to deport NVA sympathisers too.

  4. Cassie of Sydney

    So the racist comes on and supports the censorship of President Donald Trump…….hmm I wonder who else the racist will want censored? Here’s a smidgen….

    Netanyahu
    Bolsonaro
    Johnson
    Orban
    Morrison
    Kelly
    Flint
    Abbott
    Dutton
    Davidson

    I note the racist doesn’t have a problem with Iran’s spiritual leader having a Twitter account, despite him regularly calling for genocide….I shouldn’t be surprised…..Jooo haters like to stick together.

    I ask again…..why are we tolerating the intolerant?

  5. Armadillo

    Apart from the moral dimension, they could find themselves the target of expensive litigation.

    Section 230.

  6. Rex Anger

    It’s not that hard. First, you have to realise there is no oligarchy, and virtually no barriers to entry anymore.

    Second, you have to understand that when the government bans your speech, you’ll go to jail or be fined or whatever. You’ll know it when it happens.

    Welp, get informing little Block Warden! Your Duty compels you!

    Lastly, you have to realise that a private company stopping you from using a free service (which is by no means the only way to communicate on the internet) is not even in the same league as a government ban on your speech. It’s like a publisher turning down your autobiography. They have no obligation to publish your speech.

    (See Hyperlink above)

    Shame then, that thing about All within the State, Nothing outside the State, Nothing against the State” thing (/ht Benny), eh Grigory?

    You stooge.

  7. FelixKruell

    Dot:

    You deny actual evidence.

    You fail to provide it, post after post. When you finally provide something, it’s literally a link from republican agitators. No independent data.

    In response, I provided the official response, linking the official website, and media articles explaining why you are wrong.

  8. FelixKruell

    Rex:

    I have no idea what you’re on about. Less YouTube links, more actual sentences. In English.

  9. Dot

    You fail to provide it, post after post. When you finally provide something, it’s literally a link from republican agitators. No independent data

    IF YOU COULD BE BOTHERED to scroll down, they cite two official sources of data which do not reconcile.

    Now the Sec. State of PA refuses to publish 2020 data, even after the election has been certified and confirmed by the Senate?

    It’s not me who refuses to provide data, it’s the Democrat officials in PA.

    In response, I provided the official response, linking the official website, and media articles explaining why you are wrong.

    They’re bullshit, like you conflating enrolled voters with voters who cast a vote (which does not reconcile with votes cast). Nice try arsehole, you got caught with both hands on your dick there.

    Now even if counting was incomplete, why would there be more votes than votes actually cast by electors?

    That makes no sense, the opposite may be possible in any other election, but what happened is out and out fraud.

  10. John Comnenus

    Lindsey Graham gets all tough after th,e event and when he can’t achieve anything. Graham is scum.

  11. Dot

    I have a dumb conservative friend who fall for Graham and McConnell’s BS.

    He also loves ScoMo.

    Jesus wept.

  12. Boambee John

    Felicia

    Not quite – it was to encourage a balance between free speech and active moderation of posts.

    Yet posts actively calling for Jo oish genocide are not banned. What has Trump, Bannon et al said that is worse than a call for genocide?

  13. Rex Anger

    Grigory:

    I have no idea what you’re on about. Less YouTube links, more actual sentences. In English.

    Scroll back uo. Read ve-e-e-r-y slowly. Then try again

  14. EllenG

    Experts in freedom and private interest seem not to comprehend the difference between a publisher rejecting an author and Gummint decree. (Even funnier when the author is the Gummint!)

  15. Cassie of Sydney

    “EllenG
    #3716917, posted on January 9, 2021 at 3:07 pm
    Experts in freedom and private interest seem not to comprehend the difference between a publisher rejecting an author and Gummint decree. (Even funnier when the author is the Gummint!)’

    I ask again, why are we tolerating the intolerant?

  16. Rex Anger

    Experts in freedom and private interest seem not to comprehend the difference between a publisher rejecting an author and Gummint decree.

    So edjucayt us, Ellen!

    When everything is political and Class Enemies are to be destroyed at all costs, what difference is there between a Fellow Travelling publisher and a tyrannical government decree?

    Wear your muzzle. Eat your bugs. Resistance is Futile.

  17. Dr Faustus

    When an individual has the power to create a big lie (that the election was stolen) and then uses it cynically to attempt to hold on to that power and people get killed as a result, they would be irresponsible as a corporation to turn a blind eye.

    Not an unreasonable argument.
    Perhaps unwittingly, perhaps uncaringly, the e-platforms are admitting responsibility for the misuse of their services. Legal redress and regulation should follow to make sure this responsibility is consistently applied.

    Will be interesting to see whether the unfettered State takes up that challenge.

  18. Rex Anger

    Will be interesting to see whether the unfettered State takes up that challenge.

    They are presently far too useful as a means of mass propaganda and surveillance to be brought to heel…

  19. FelixKruell

    Dot:

    IF YOU COULD BE BOTHERED to scroll down, they cite two official sources of data which do not reconcile.

    Cite but don’t link to, or provide in any way. Which should tell you something. Especially once the people responsible for those official sources of data explain that they aren’t up to date.

    Now the Sec. State of PA refuses to publish 2020 data, even after the election has been certified and confirmed by the Senate?

    Refuses? What’s your evidence for that little assertion?

    They’re bullshit, like you conflating enrolled voters with voters who cast a vote (which does not reconcile with votes cast). Nice try arsehole, you got caught with both hands on your dick there.

    The claim was ‘more votes than voters’ – that’s it. Despite repeated requests for detail.

    Now even if counting was incomplete, why would there be more votes than votes actually cast by electors?

    Because vote counts are complete, even though voter counts aren’t. You didn’t read the article, did you?

  20. FelixKruell

    Boambee:

    Yet posts actively calling for Jo oish genocide are not banned. What has Trump, Bannon et al said that is worse than a call for genocide?

    Nothing. This is the problem Twitter has. Once you draw a line, you have to apply it consistently. They haven’t.

    That said, I don’t envy their moderation task.

  21. FelixKruell

    Rex:

    Welp, get informing little Block Warden! Your Duty compels you!

    Shame then, that thing about All within the State, Nothing outside the State, Nothing against the State” thing (/ht Benny), eh Grigory?

    Read it slowly didn’t help. Are you…in jail?

  22. Cassie of Sydney

    “Legal redress and regulation should follow to make sure this responsibility is consistently applied.”

    You would think but don’t hold your breath…however it will be selectively applied.

  23. Rex Anger

    Read it slowly didn’t help.

    Try again.

    Then again.

    And then some more.

  24. Lee

    I ask again, why are we tolerating the intolerant?

    Cassie, literally every time Ellen comments here her sense of superciliousness, self-righteousness and sanctimony almost tangible.
    “Karen” on steroids.

  25. Rockdoctor

    John Comnenus
    #3716898, posted on January 9, 2021 at 2:58 pm

    Video doing the rounds of Graham copping stick at an airport somewhere. Romney copped it the other day. I reckon there’ll be more before this settles down.

    One thing I will say though is try doing that in modern Australia and you would be under arrest as we have seen over the last few years. At least in the US for now it is still allowed.

  26. Dot

    Cite but don’t link to, or provide in any way. Which should tell you something. Especially once the people responsible for those official sources of data explain that they aren’t up to date.

    It’s at the bottom of the link you stupid lying piece of dogshit.

    Refuses? What’s your evidence for that little assertion?

    Because the 2020 data isn’t published…TWO months after polling day you monotonous, reckless fuckhead.

    The claim was ‘more votes than voters’ – that’s it.

    YES

    Because vote counts are complete, even though voter counts aren’t. You didn’t read the article, did you?

    Complete bullshit and dissembling. You count votes cast before you count votes, even though some trickle in AFTER the polling date?

    Fuck off you pathetic weasel.

  27. FelixKruell

    Dot:

    It’s at the bottom of the link you stupid lying piece of dogshit.

    No, it isn’t. No links.

    Because the 2020 data isn’t published…TWO months after polling day you monotonous, reckless fuckhead.

    Which has been explained…

    But the reference to Pennsylvania’s SURE (Statewide Uniform Registry of Electors) appears to refer to data on the vote history of registered voters. Boockvar’s office said that this often lags behind actual election results, because it relies upon counties uploading the data. And it said that data from some big counties — including those based in the urban centers of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh — remain incomplete.
    “ … The only way to determine the number of voters who voted in November from the SURE system is through the vote histories,” Boockvar’s office said. “At this time, there are still a few counties that have not completed uploading their vote histories to the SURE system. These counties, which include Philadelphia, Allegheny, Butler and Cambria, would account for a significant number of voters.”

    Even your heroes table references 3 counties that haven’t completed their count

    Complete bullshit and dissembling. You count votes cast before you count votes, even though some trickle in AFTER the polling date?

    Huh? You might want to rewrite that.

  28. Dot

    Dot:

    It’s at the bottom of the link you stupid lying piece of dogshit.

    No, it isn’t. No links.

    FMD you are a stupid liar.

    If you thought it was wrong; how could KNOW it was wrong without seeing it?

    You also said it was “a link from republican agitators“.

    NO LINK!

    No, you’ve been caught jacking off with both hands in public again. RED HANDED. You dirty little liar!

    Even your heroes table references 3 counties that haven’t completed their count

    They counted their votes before they counted what was on ballots? Really? Does that discrepancy square up to 3%? No.

    You’re full of shit.

    Running interference for a p-dophile.

    (Just like Ricky Slater?)

    Compilation of Vice President Joe Biden touching girls inappropriately live on CSPAN. Imagine what he does off camera.

    Anybody defending Biden for inappropriately touching kids in any of these videos where he is , you are a piece of shit that’s needs your brain checked. Any old sick fucks who prey on children’s fears and do it for the sake of getting away with it on camera should burn in hell. Fuck you brainwashed idiots.

  29. Bruce

    Twatter and Farcebook were SPECIFICALLY set up to be personal-data-mining operations.

    There is NO other valid explanation.

    “Social Media” is a contradiction in terms.

  30. Armadillo

    That said, I don’t envy their moderation task.

    It’s pretty easy actually. Just like adjudicating votes. Who are the “counters”?

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/twitter-employees-signed-letter-calling-permanent-ban-us-president-trump/

  31. FelixKruell

    Dot:

    You also said it was “a link from republican agitators“.

    You link was to an article by republicans agitators. In that article they don’t link to the data they purport to use to ‘prove’ their fraud.

    They counted their votes before they counted what was on ballots? Really? Does that discrepancy square up to 3%? No.

    You keep confusing counting of votes, with counting of voters.

  32. Dot

    You link was to an article by republicans agitators. In that article they don’t link to the data they purport to use to ‘prove’ their fraud.

    They quote the data in a cross tabulation with the caveat “three small counties have not fully posted results online and their results were included as reported”.

    A comparison of official county election results to the total number of voters who voted on November 3, 2020 as recorded by the Department of State shows that 6,962,607 total ballots were reported as being cast, while DoS/SURE system records indicate that only 6,760,230 total voters actually voted. Among the 6,962,607 total ballots cast, 6,931,060 total votes were counted in the presidential race, including all three candidates on the ballot and write-in candidates.

    The difference of 202,377 more votes cast than voters voting, together with the 31,547 over- and under-votes in the presidential race, adds up to an alarming discrepancy of 170,830 votes, which is more than twice the reported statewide difference between the two major candidates for President of the United States. On November 24, 2020, Boockvar certified election results, and Wolf issued a certificate of ascertainment of presidential electors, stating that Vice President Joe Biden received 80,555 more votes than President Donald Trump.

    Just stop it Felix. You are defending a complete and utter dumpster fire.

  33. FelixKruell

    Dot:

    while DoS/SURE system records indicate that only 6,760,230 total voters actually voted. Among the 6,962,607 total ballots cast, 6,931,060 total votes were counted in the presidential race, including all three candidates on the ballot and write-in candidates.

    And this has been explained – the SURE system records they refer to (but don’t link to) are not up to date yet. Some counties have not submitted their final voter counts (not vote counts) yet.

    You can question whether they SHOULD be up to date by now. But until they are up to date, you can’t conclude fraud. At least not reasonably. But maybe I’m expecting too much from you.

  34. Dot

    Hmm yes, it’s my fault that the Dem. Governor and Sec. State are running interference here.

    You gullible, demented fool.

  35. Albatross

    Lee
    #3717000, posted on January 9, 2021 at 3:54 pm
    […]
    “Karen” on steroids.

    This is a slur designed to target white women. Take note of how it is used.

  36. Albatross

    FelixKruell
    #3717697, posted on January 9, 2021 at 11:00 pm

    Bruh.

  37. Faye

    All is not lost. Watch what happens from now to the 20th Jan.

  38. Matt

    We’ve been watching since the election for all these predictions, and so far there’s been nothing.
    Which is what is going to happen from now to 20 Jan.
    Then Biden will be inaugurated.

  39. hzhousewife

    Why are we tolerating the intolerant? Ahh, the awful conundrum. Of course we ourselves do not want to be accused of intolerance.
    The thing that upsets me most I think is how astonished I am to discover that 50% or more of the population are totally happy to lie and cheat and steal. Has anybody resigned from Twitter because of their conscience – no, we are told that every single Twitter employee is of a single mind that banning free speech in certain circumstances is a good and great thing.
    I am very much looking forward to the inauguration, because everybody present will be showing their true colours. If virtual, the numbers tuning in to watch will be very telling.

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