Open Forum: January 9, 2021

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  1. johanna

    Notafan, the social media emperors are shutting down even people like Ted Cruz, a senior US Senator.

    What could possibly go wrong?

  2. Knuckle Dragger:

    I was shown an elephant, once, in 1974. Therefore I can comment with authority on pachyderms.

    How about giraffes, eh?
    Bet you know sweet Fanny Adams about giraffes.
    This picture will help Giraffe after WZV lockup.

  3. Arky

    How about giraffes, eh?

    ..
    Giraffes take it up the arse.

  4. Rex Anger

    Giraffes take it up the arse.

    If you reach out for the staaaar, theb it makes no difference who you aaaaaaare…

    Wheeeen [ it’s not that kind of blooooog], your dreeeeeams coooome truuueeee!

    #ThisIsMyChildhood

    #NowItIsOnFire

    #You’reWelcome

  5. notafan

    Hopefully the end of social media.

  6. feelthebern

    I caught a bit of the Jimmy Dore live stream today.
    He & his guests were adamant that this impeachment move is pure theatre designed to take attention away from the Democrats running dead on a Medicare-for-all vote in the House.

  7. Leigh Lowe

    WWC is probably not necessary for membership – I would be surprised if that’s allowable under privacy laws – but should be mandatory for office holders and those who run for office.

    That is absolutely spot on.
    If he is worried about reputational damage, put office bearers and particularly prospective candidates through the hoops.
    Ask them to certify their full criminal records (not just WWCC matters), along with anything else which may be embarrassing to the party.
    As a start, request a stat dec listing any political, lobbying, social and sporting groups they are or have been a member of. List all social media accounts they have held. State whether or not they have ever been subject to dismissal or disciplinary action by an employer for any reason. List past bankruptcies or directorships/management of failed companies. Any AVOs which may have been issued against them. And the catch-all … any other matter which may bring the party into disrepute.
    Once something surfaces subsequently about a candidate or office bearer, Bosi can point to the stat dec and say three things:-
    1. He/she lied in a stat dec to the party about that;
    2. He/she has been disendorsed/disciplined/dismissed;
    3. Reiterate that A1 has the most stringent vetting process of any party.
    If the MSM run stuff about mere rank and file members, simply bat it away:-
    “We were not previously aware that this member had engaged in this behaviour. [State clearly what, if anything, the party will do about it]. Note that, this person was not an endorsed candidate or office bearer of the party. If they had applied to hold any official role they would have been subject to the most rigorous vetting process of any Australian political party.”
    Or …
    “That is not a matter we deem relevant to party membership. All parties have members who perhaps have done things in the past they are not proud of (wave three manila folders in the air at this point, labelled “Greens”, “ALP” and “LNP”). However, we welcome any member who wants to move on from past indiscretions”
    Expecting all prospective members and supporters to undergo a WWCC is political self-immolation.

  8. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘How about giraffes, eh?
    Bet you know sweet Fanny Adams about giraffes.’

    I know this much about giraffes:
    1. If they wore jeans, they would be skinny jeans;
    2. They would be excellent nightfill employees at Aldi and/or Bunnings; and
    3. They are vegan bastards.

  9. Leigh Lowe

    He & his guests were adamant that this impeachment move is pure theatre designed to take attention away from the Democrats running dead on a Medicare-for-all vote in the House.

    Of course it is.
    Seriously, impeaching a President with eight days left in his term, and no chance of a Senate trial being held before the 21st?
    It is two things.
    A smokescreen.
    And trying to put Trump in the exclusive class of being twice impeached by the House.
    .
    It has zero practical effect.

  10. bespoke

    Word-wall, no paragraph’s and un-necessary balding.

    3/10 😁

  11. Leigh Lowe

    bespoke
    #3722821, posted on January 13, 2021 at 3:14 pm
    Word-wall, no paragraph’s and un-necessary balding.

    3/10 😁

    How dare you!
    (it was free advice to Bosi, so I thought I would go the verbose route).

  12. feelthebern

    Incredible what this Caesar chap achieved.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfKD2GwWlpQ

    Incredible how unproductive modern society is.

  13. Nick

    The minutes will reflect that bespoke was admonished at 3.18 pm

  14. notafan

    Verbose is def the vibe.

    The verboser* the better I say.

    *beats jeering, mocking and sniping hands down.

  15. feelthebern

    There is zero chance the Egyptians did all that shit by themselves.
    Even with all that slave labour, they got a few tips from interstellar visitors.

  16. Notafan, the social media emperors are shutting down even people like Ted Cruz, a senior US Senator.


    Dettol Donny has had some interesting things to say about Ted Cruz.

  17. John Brumble

    Leigh: lol

    Headline 1:
    “Bosi allows [censored]s into the party” or “Party is full of [censored]s”

    Headline 2
    “Bosi under fire for allowing [censored]s into the party” or “Party in turmoil after shock [censored] revelation”.

    And then… nothing.

  18. Bruce of Newcastle

    It has zero practical effect.

    The practical effect is he couldn’t then run in 2024, therefore the Dems are doing the GOP elites a favour. Which they may well collect on. If Trump stood in the 2024 primaries he’d win hands down.

    Of course this ignores the likelihood of arrest and showtrial, which seems extremely likely. Which is why I’ve said he should go on a visit to Israel to celebrate the Accords and not come back.

  19. feelthebern

    If Trump stood in the 2024 primaries he’d win hands down.

    The GOP would change the rules non-stop so Trump would struggle to get to a debate, let alone be eligible for a single primary.

  20. bespoke

    There are times that deserves one or both, nota. As you very well know.

  21. calli

    Just got back in the door and catching up.

    I presume Trump is still President? 😀

  22. bespoke

    Nick
    #3722829, posted on January 13, 2021 at 3:22 pm
    The minutes will reflect that bespoke was admonished at 3.18 pm

    Meh! I wouldn’t leave your shoes unattended.

  23. bespoke

    I’m not into the steam room scene you guys are into remember.

  24. Frank

    What of the latest evolutionary development, dwarf giraffes?

  25. Mater

    I presume Trump is still President?

    Allegedly, apparently.

  26. johanna

    Reading back, I find that Ms Spitting and Kicking and Threatening To Do Herself In was allowed back.

    Then, to my amazement, two dopey kittehs encouraged her – ‘let’s get together for coffee’ and so on.

    She’s a nutcase and a stalker, Lizzie.

    If you and Cassie want to go down that road – hey, it’s a free country! 🙂

  27. Nick

    Johanna, you mean one of the ‘hand patters and enablers’.

  28. calli

    This is no place for the emotionally fragile. Nothing should be taken to heart, even being called a Bolshevik or “worse than Julia Gillard”.

    The horror! 🍿🍿🍿

  29. bespoke

    From franks link.

    Skeletal dysplasia. Add this to the Cat insult lexicon.

  30. Leigh Lowe

    Brumble at 3:29.
    Again, if Bosi is so keen to protect against reputational damage, why select one narrow field of criminal and/or unsavoury activity as his membership filter?
    Why not ask about other criminal activity not covered by WWCC, bankruptcies, AVOs, firings for dishonesty without criminal charge, membership of other political parties/pressure groups, social media history, etc?
    In any case, he’s lost me.
    And it looks like I am not the only one voting with my feet.

  31. Bruce of Newcastle

    The GOP would change the rules non-stop so Trump would struggle to get to a debate, let alone be eligible for a single primary.

    Whereupon all their voters would walk away. Hence the Dems doing a favour by impeaching him to prevent him standing. The GOP has this love hate relationship with their voters: the elites detest Trump but the voters love him and dislike the elites. So the art is to get rid of Trump but keep the voters. Which they’d hope four years of no-Trump, and no Trump in the primaries, would do.

  32. Nick

    Bruce, this is where it gets interesting. Trumps’ base is too big to ignore. The more the Left ban him, the more it works in his favour, a martyr if you will. We are only seeeing the start of things, the pushback, and there will be one, eventually, will be massive. Unfortunately, the Dems control the media, social or otherwise. What this produces as a catalyst, will be interesting.

  33. bespoke

    No getting around that Trump is getting on and I don’t think his family will support it. Guilfoyle would love to be first lady so Trump jr+? 2024

  34. Leigh Lowe

    Nick
    #3722829, posted on January 13, 2021 at 3:22 pm
    The minutes will reflect that bespoke was admonished at 3.18 pm

    And also banned from Book Club* for three months.
    Which means you will know nothing of what goes on there.
    Because, as we know, the first rule of Book Club is: you do not talk about Book Club.
    .
    .
    * Book Club.
    Full Title :- “The Catallaxy Review of Weighty Tomes with Many Big Words and No Pictures”.

  35. Cassie of Sydney

    “Then, to my amazement, two dopey kittehs encouraged her – ‘let’s get together for coffee’ and so on.

    She’s a nutcase and a stalker, Lizzie.

    If you and Cassie want to go down that road – hey, it’s a free country! 🙂”

    In the same exchange when Lizzie and I offered some support to Catlady…..our great proprietor of this blog also wrote the following…

    “Sinclair Davidson
    #3720351, posted on January 11, 2021 at 5:22 pm
    Hi Catlady – good to see you back.”

    Is Sinclair Davidson dopey too? I don’t think so.

  36. wivenhoe

    dwarf giraffes?

    Wow, so cool, save the environment. shorter jeans. what a massive co2 reduction.

  37. Delta A

    Wot?

    No pictures?

    I’m out!

  38. bespoke

    our great proprietor of this blog

    Please! it’s big enough to have own moon already. 😃

  39. Dr Faustus

    Terrifying ABC The World Today piece, featuring Tim Soupspoon:

    WED 13 JAN – rise of post-truth in Australia draws scrunity

    Herr Soupspoon’s “scrunity” requires Government to take urgent action to outlaw “Trumpism” and making untrue statements on social media. Apparently the fabric of Australian society is literally within inches of following the US into insurrection.

    Some vigorous banning, deplatforming, and cancelling is required to preserve free speech.

    Their ABC’s Sally Sara enthusiastically agrees.

  40. K2

    I’m watching “Who do you think you are” on SBS. Peter Garrett pretending to not know some of his ancestors were movers and shakers back in the day. #notfoolingmexunt

  41. Cassie of Sydney

    “Tim Soupspoon”

    He’s an ugly, fat little fascist.

  42. feelthebern

    Peter Garrett loves re-writing history.

  43. Dr Faustus

    So the art is to get rid of Trump but keep the voters. Which they’d hope four years of no-Trump, and no Trump in the primaries, would do.

    The solution: behind the scenes, across the aisle, invisible to the naked eye support for an unending process of legal warfare against the Trump Family and it’s consiglieres. Traffic violations through treason.

  44. Leigh Lowe

    I think the brief return of She Who Must Not be Named was useful for a number of reasons.
    Firstly, the advice from more than one person here that maybe the online world isn’t for her. If you are going to spew bile and abuse at people online, you will get it back. And, if you aren’t equipped to deal with the inevitable return of serve …
    Sure, it happened here just around Christmas, and basically no-one took the bait until I guess Sinc benched her. But those who populate the Facebook, Intagram and Twatter Universe are not as forgiving as those here.
    Secondly, there was a reference from her to several hospitalisations since a bereavement some time ago. This exposed another of the downtrodden sponsor children (and former commenter here) as an unscrupulous exploiter of those with a disability.

  45. Bruce of Newcastle

    Ironic that which Soupy calls post-truth is the truth. And the propaganda from the ABC and most of the MSM is not the truth.

    Is Truth Irrelevant? (Thomas Sowell, 12 Jan)

    Pontius Pilate might have a thing or two to say about that question.

  46. Leigh Lowe

    Delta A
    #3722900, posted on January 13, 2021 at 4:13 pm
    Wot?

    No pictures?

    I’m out!

    I know.
    It’s pretty high-end hoity-toity stuff.

  47. Nick

    And also banned from Book Club* for three months.
    Which means you will know nothing of what goes on there.
    Because, as we know, the first rule of Book Club is: you do not talk about Book Club.

    Ok. It will go out in tonight’s group email

  48. Nick

    Sure, it happened here just around Christmas,

    Add to that, the imbecile, who upon seeing the likelihood of a car crash. Told the poster to simply ‘scroll’ any comments they didn’t like!

  49. feelthebern

    Reading a range of western media & it looks like governments around the world are in a bit of a pickle regarding vaccine take up.
    There is zero doubt the fear card is currently being played in the US & Europe with the view to panic people into the take up.
    What do they do?
    Increase the panic levels to entice take up?
    They can’t force people to do it as the blow back would be too great regardless of how much censorship the legacy media/social media tries on.

  50. Leigh Lowe

    Nick
    #3722941, posted on January 13, 2021 at 4:41 pm
    Sure, it happened here just around Christmas,

    Add to that, the imbecile, who upon seeing the likelihood of a car crash. Told the poster to simply ‘scroll’ any comments they didn’t like!

    Didn’t see that.
    I was stuffing the turkey (no, that isn’t a euphemism).
    What was that all about?

  51. Cassie of Sydney

    “If you are going to spew bile and abuse at people online, you will get it back. And, if you aren’t equipped to deal with the inevitable return of serve …
    Sure, it happened here just around Christmas, and basically no-one took the bait until I guess Sinc benched her. But those who populate the Facebook, Intagram and Twatter Universe are not as forgiving as those here.”

    I think that’s a good assessment.

    I would add that if you’re going to dish it out, you’d better be prepared to take it.

  52. Leigh Lowe

    Kind of interesting ‘bern.
    1. “OMG! It’s the Black Death 2.1.4!”
    2. “Huh? People would rather take their chance with Black Death 2.1.4 than be vaccinated.”

  53. Nick

    What was that all about?

    I think you were around, late afternoon on Christmas Day. It became evident that perhaps a keeper had erred in allowing one of their charges into the wider zoo compound. From the snarls emitted, it was obvious that it was only a matter of time before someone bit and it exploded. One poster, who wasn’t the only one, saw it as an opportunity to give some ‘you go grrrl advice’, to ignore any opposition and to simply scroll. Sound familiar ?

  54. Bruce of Newcastle

    Reading a range of western media & it looks like governments around the world are in a bit of a pickle regarding vaccine take up.

    Remember when a long line of Democrats moaned to the MSM that they wouldn’t trust any vaccine rolled out by Trump? It amuses me that cause-and-effect still works in this relativistic world we’re now living in.

  55. John Brumble

    Leigh:

    I’m with you on that one. It was more the “only for office holders” that had me lolling.

    But who am I kidding. They’d just make something up anyway.

  56. bespoke

    After years of enabling I don’t think the ‘advice’ was anything more then an opportunity for public virtue.

  57. feelthebern

    Virtue signalling at the Cat?
    Say it isn’t so !

  58. JC

    Team Kwanzaa and the MSM focused on the important things with the job.

    WILMINGTON, Del. (AP) — Vice President-elect Kamala Harris has landed on the cover of the February issue of Vogue magazine, but her team says there’s a problem: the shot of the country’s soon-to-be No. 2 leader isn’t what both sides had agreed upon, her team says.

    Instead of the powder blue power suit Harris wore for her cover shoot, the first African American woman elected vice president is instead seen in more casual attire and wearing Converse Chuck Taylor sneakers, which she sometimes wore on the campaign trail.

    Harris’ team was unaware that the cover photo had been switched until images leaked late Saturday, according to a person involved in the negotiations over how Harris would be featured on the cover. Harris’ office declined comment and the person spoke Sunday on condition of anonymity.

    In a statement, Vogue said it went with the more informal image of Harris for the cover because the photo captured her “authentic, approachable nature, which we feel is one of the hallmarks of the Biden-Harris administration.”

    The political troll is not African American.

  59. Bruce of Newcastle

    The answer to your question Bern is of course, um, incentivization.

    Tony Blair Advising British Govt on Vaccinations, Pushes for ‘COVID Passes’ (12 Jan)

    Writing in the Evening Standard on Monday, Mr Blair said that a “vaccination acceleration is paramount” while pushing for the introduction of a “Covid Pass”.

    Blair said that the requirement for a Covid Pass should “at least” be required “in order to travel and probably for everything from attending an O2 concert to the FA Cup final”.

    Mr Blair first came out in favour of so-called ‘Health Passports‘ in December, as a means to return to normality.

    Papers please.

  60. Leigh Lowe

    I would add that if you’re going to dish it out, you’d better be prepared to take it.

    Yes, that is what I meant.
    Many here treat a return of abuse as water off a duck’s back.
    In fact, trolls like Googlery actually enjoy getting a bite.
    But if you know :-
    (a) you are likely to go off piste yourself and abuse people on-line; and
    (b) you are not emotionally equipped to deal with the blow-back;
    then the only answer is to go cold turkey on online engagement.

  61. feelthebern

    The path out of the governments over reaction to COVID19 has to include:
    1) a staged step down in the cycles the PCR tests are run at;
    2) a managed increase in the usage of rapid antigen testing so economies can attempt to get back to normal;
    3) medical “authorities” stating that a slow vaccine roll out is just as good…before it goes to the forgettery;
    4) hospitals still getting their 20% CARES act bump on COVID cases even if they don’t admit them as patients (this plays into the lower admissions stats);
    5) most importantly, a mission accomplished moment for Biden so the legacy media & social media can give him a Roman-esque triumph.

  62. Cassie of Sydney

    Mark Latham…tweeted this about Gideon Haigh’s crap in the Oz…

    “Real Mark Latham
    @RealMarkLatham
    This rambling nonsense by Tosser Haigh invents a new offence: ‘racism of tone’, to go with the fantasy of ‘causal racism’
    What they can’t find in substance, the elites simply invent.

    Latham, as usual, nails it.

  63. Leigh Lowe

    John Brumble
    #3722955, posted on January 13, 2021 at 4:53 pm
    Leigh:

    I’m with you on that one. It was more the “only for office holders” that had me lolling.

    But who am I kidding. They’d just make something up anyway.

    Yeah, look, you can’t control what the media will do.
    I was trying to get to something where Bosi could screen the inner circle of candidates and officials without frightening off rank and file.
    I was actually thinking of PHON which has been a dickhead magnet over the years, picking up various grifters along the way who not only damage the party’s reputation, but turn on PH when they don’t get their way.
    Which brings me to Latham.
    Whatever you think of PH, she will not be letting Latham run for a Federal Senate seat before she retires (which will be when she dies).

  64. JC

    Just to check and understand it. All this “Q” stuff going on around the traps and people being banned by the Tech Bloc.

    “Q” is short for Qanon, right?

  65. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bern – Also any family of dead Covid victims will be asked ‘did you not have the vaccine?’ Doesn’t matter what they reply, the MSM will just leave the accusation hanging as an ‘it’s your fault’ smear. Then they’ll stop talking about virus deaths entirely.

  66. Leigh Lowe

    I think you were around, late afternoon on Christmas Day. It became evident that perhaps a keeper had erred in allowing one of their charges into the wider zoo compound. From the snarls emitted, it was obvious that it was only a matter of time before someone bit and it exploded. One poster, who wasn’t the only one, saw it as an opportunity to give some ‘you go grrrl advice’, to ignore any opposition and to simply scroll. Sound familiar ?

    FMD!
    You’re kidding me?
    No, I was in absentia all of Christmas Day I think, shovelling whole sides of various exotic beasts and gallons of foine woine at the ungrateful and insatiable.

  67. feelthebern

    Tone?
    FMD.
    Tonal offence is so 2021.

  68. miltonf

    Whatever you think of PH, she will not be letting Latham run for a Federal Senate seat before she retires (which will be when she dies).

    That’s interesting- I would have thought Latho in the Senate would have been very helpful to Pauline. Then maybe I’m being a naive. Whatever, he’s wasted in the NSW LC.

  69. bespoke

    Latham would run if he wanted to with or without her permission

  70. Makka

    Cricket please.

    Australian Test Cricket is fkg cringe worthy these days. Appalling displays. A captain who can’t bat, can’t catch, has no field sense , alienates the umps and spends his day at the wicket sledging his betters like a pimply face primary schoolkid with ADHD. Real fkg leadership material.

    Accompanied by a convicted cry baby cheat who still has not a brain cell to bless himself with.

    What a disgrace.

  71. Mother Lode

    Makka, over on the ‘Socialists can never be convinced that socialism does not work’ thread, ponders whether Numbers will appear on a thread with a topic so central to his world view.

    Will he defend socialism when it is the topic, rather than squatting over other threads and derailing them with his shallow slogans, certain that people will move back to the original topic.

    My impression is that his grasp of socialism is little more than a few slogans or unexamined princliples – like ‘profit is the theft of the excess value of labour’. (Even marxists worked out that the labour theory of value didn’t explain stuff.)

    My suspicions are that he won’t. Which just might sting him enough to try.

  72. miltonf

    Latham would run if he wanted to with or without her permission

    I would have thought that. Getting to Canbra from SW Sydney is almost more convenient than getting to Macquarie St.

  73. Bruce of Newcastle

    Latho in the NSW LC isn’t bad because he can give the wet Libs a hard time. So all he has to do is quid pro quo over legislation he knows the ALP will oppose, and signal that if they want it through they have to boot Kean to the back bench where he can dream green dreams in a lonely corner of the LA.

    Pauline can do that in Canberra with Malcolm Roberts’ coaching.

  74. bespoke

    Sure Makka i never followed but the commentary is amusing as is the outrage over the commentary.

  75. Rockdoctor

    First time in a week I have run an eye over what is trending at news.com and find this… No way am I trying to defend this guy as hey in a cell you shouldn’t be too picky. However, not feeding halal to Muslei’s is verboten and would have the kiddy j’mists there hyperventilating but apparently requesting organic food is a ridiculous demand…

    https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/horned-capitol-rioter-refusing-to-eat-because-jail-wont-serve-organic-food/news-story/abba61944dec4e0bc14273ece70698ce

  76. miltonf

    This is true Bruce. He has been very effective in the LC.

  77. Zyconoclast:

    However, there’s little doubt that more immigrants will start coming once Joe Biden becomes president. And that’s OK. The United States has a historic opportunity to regain its image as a country of immigrants. But it won’t be easy.

    100 million Ugandans and another 50 million Pakistanis will help regain that image.
    The whole idea is to submerge WASP culture under a tidal wave of desperates from the shitholes of the world.

  78. Delta A

    Makka
    #3722999, posted on January 13, 2021 at 5:24 pm

    Very well said.

    This is the reason I can’t get excited about Australian cricket anymore… oh, apart from Marnus.

    Sigh.

  79. miltonf

    Yes the left and their new pals in big business like to give away citizenship like toilet paper. They have their gated communities.

  80. notafan

    Well there is absolutely nothing wrong with protesting.

    Did get out of hand.

    Why weren’t there riot police everywhere?

  81. miltonf

    I doubt if Bidet knows or cares about cultural marxism. His whole ‘career’ has been about self enrichment. That is all that matters.

  82. miltonf

    The RINOs have certainly left no doubts about what they’re in politics for.

  83. Some History

    CNN hosts an ultra-agitating Swamp parrot:
    “Trump must be viewed as a loser… a not winner” (see video)
    The idiot supremacist is casually flinging about a host of highly inflammatory terms with no coherent context.

    Juliette Kayyem
    @juliettekayyem
    • 14h
    “Trump is the spiritual leader for domestic terrorists and he is their operational leader. He tells them what to do. Now, total isolation. 25th A. Yes. Impeachment. Yes. Deplatforming. Yes. We are still in the tactical phase of a counterterrorism effort. Enough with unity.” @cnn

    https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1349164077369548800

  84. The Beer whisperer

    Terrifying ABC The World Today piece, featuring Tim Soupspoon:

    Wow, a tosspot AND a despot

  85. Mother Lode

    I doubt if Bidet knows or cares about cultural marxism. His whole ‘career’ has been about self enrichment. That is all that matters.

    When he entered politics traditional marxism of the cold war era was the thing. Now it is the environmental puppet show (with fake characters and unrelated to the real thing) and identity politics.

    Either it is a particularly fortuitous mutability (improbable), or something constant that obtains in both paradigms – like, self-interest.

    A lack of intellect and of conscience would be an absolute boon for such a creature.

    Funny thing is that his self-focus has left him blind to the reality that he has become senile and he has someone impatient on his heels waiting to push him out of the way. All that effort to be discarded like a kit-kat wrapper.

  86. Rex Anger

    This is no place for the emotionally fragile. Nothing should be taken to heart, even being called a Bolshevik or “worse than Julia Gillard”.

    The horror! 🍿🍿🍿

    You should meet our newest, the Balanced Observationist over on the Deep State Clodhoppers thread.

    He’s become quite animated since I called him a Concern Troll earlier today…

  87. calli

    Enough with unity

    So no Healing ™ just yet?

  88. calli

    I have, Rex. You missed my card. 🙂

  89. Rex Anger

    So no Healing ™ just yet?

    Plenty of that in play since at least 2014.

    Swap the a to an e… 😉

  90. Rex Anger

    I have, Rex. You missed my card. 🙂

    Oh no, I saw that bit.

    Very impressive, by the way.

    He’s got even better since…

    He’ll either learn to hiss, spit and get his fur up like the other Cats.

    Or he’ll migrate to The Conversation. Either is fine

  91. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    She’s a nutcase and a stalker, Lizzie.

    If you and Cassie want to go down that road – hey, it’s a free country! 🙂

    She happens to be a personal friend of both Sinclair and Areff, Johanna, and given Covid restrictions they probably haven’t been in Sydney to offer her any personal cheer during her recent mental illness episodes. If two women here, one a non-believer and the other Joosh, who are nearby residents can’t offer a hopeful and kindly personal hand without being abused for it, then this is not a particularly Christian place in its outlook.

    I have always said I would be happy to meet with Ellie for a coffee, to offer support where I can, Cassie has too, as we both live relatively nearby to her. I would sincerely advise her not to come back onto the Open Forum of Catallaxy, still a waspish place putting many off these days, certainly not until she has resolved many personal issues. I will also suggest the following helpline might be useful for her – in the Wentworth Courier today, Ellie, if you are tuning in.

    Need a chat? FriendLine is now available every day for anyone who needs to reconnect. A Friends For Good Service. 02 7226 1708, free call 1800 4 CHATS – THIS IS NOT A CRISIS SERVICE
    2-6PM MON & fRI, 2-8PM TUES, WED & THURS, 2-5pm SAT & SUN

    Sometimes you just have to hear another human voice, prepared to say hello and listen to you, and in the case of Cassie and me, to see two friendly understanding faces from a site where she has felt rejected may be of some help. This is not some long term project for either of us but we can encourage further self-help.

  92. notafan

    Biden probably thinks, as Stalin died that he gets to decide how long he’ll live for.
    Unlike Stalin he’s had access to facelift and botox and other miracles of modern medicine.

    As if that helps

  93. Frank

    [Soupspoon] Wow, a tosspot AND a despot

    Face like a slapped bottom too, not something you would like to find sweating all over you.

  94. notafan

    Both of you could have offered that help off-line, could you not?

  95. Delta A

    Enough with unity

    I can’t recall a time when the ‘them vs us’ attitude was so pronounced. Apart from the last 10 years of my career, when I was teaching on KI (very lefty staff), I had no idea of the political leanings of my work colleagues… or my friends or family, for that matter.

    Political issues were rarely discussed, not out of discretion, but because politics was boring. Certainly, there were protesters about Vie***m, but everything went quiet for several decades after that.

    Then came global warming, identity politics and victimhood, with more varieties of gender than my Heinz spaghetti breakfast. Now, the good guys are trannies or any alphabet mix, vegans, Trump-haters, single moms who push their child into transitioning, Satanists, anti-conservatives, anti-Christians and chiefly, anti the white men who invented and developed all the luxuries that the world enjoys.

    This is what we are passing on to our children and grandchildren. May they – and God – forgive us.

  96. lotocoti

    The political troll is not African American.

    Madge should invite the soon to be first Indo-Caribbean president of the USA to open the 2022 Commonwealth Games.

  97. dover_beach

    Which video does YouTube purport that Trump incited violence?

  98. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    One poster, who wasn’t the only one, saw it as an opportunity to give some ‘you go grrrl advice’, to ignore any opposition and to simply scroll. Sound familiar ?

    That may have been me, a little before we set out for our Chrissie evening dinner at the CBD Intercontinental, although I wouldn’t put those ‘go girl’ terms on it. As Ellie had arrived, and its was Christmas, it seemed best to say if you’re here and upset, just scroll, rather than have her do worse. She didn’t scroll and did worse. Clearly she was lonely. Not nice for anyone on Christmas Day, I would have thought.

    If being a normal and decent person is virtue signaling here, then so be it.

  99. This, written by an ex-FBI agent, is a good summary of the Big Lie –

    Raymond A. Hult: There is no evidence of election fraud

    As a former FBI agent, I know what kind of proof you have to have to pursue a case.
    Donald Trump claims he won the election and Democrats cheated by illegally converting Trump votes to votes for Joe Biden. That declaration on its own is apparently all the proof his indoctrinated followers need to convince them beyond a shadow of doubt the election process was flawed.
    I have yet to have Trump supporters explain exactly what specific evidence they have been personally made aware of to support the claim of massive fraud that would have erased the substantial margin of victory amassed by Biden.
    Having worked numerous fraud cases as an FBI special agent, I know federal prosecutors wouldn’t touch any case I presented to them unless I furnished specific evidence that would hold up in court.
    Reading a recent article by an avid Trump supporter provides an example of the unproven generalities making the rounds throughout Trump’s base. It charged that changes and methods of administering the election had been made that were definitely on shaky ground. That required a thorough investigation to root out the suspected fraud.
    No compelling evidence was offered to support any illicit changes and methods. Specifically, what proof of the reality of any shaky ground. The writer didn’t provide, and mostly likely wasn’t aware of, any concrete confirmation to support his unproven claim of illegality.

    You would think the brainwashed followers would start to open their minds to the possibility there was no fraud. That based on the dozens of the suits filed in federal court, all the way to the Supreme Court, promptly dismissed and often accompanied by severe chastisements noting a lack of standing and any supportable evidence. But no. The faithful would rather trust Trump’s outrage than the judgment of all the courts in the land.

    Even though there is no doubt Trump will be run out of the White House on a rail, the damage to one of the primary tenets of our democracy has received a severe blow that may haunt America for years to come or even longer. There remain tens of millions of duped followers who will now remain convinced the way we elect our presidents is based on fraud and deceit.

    One possible way to limit damage in the future might be to ditch the Electoral College and chose a winner by popular vote. That wouldn’t necessarily eliminate claims of false ballots, but it might help eliminate all the ways now available to attempt to torpedo the convoluted electoral process. Obviously, any political attempt to coerce the millions of regular voters to change their choice would be an impossibility.

    Those still favoring the Electoral College rationalize the votes of citizens in smaller states would be marginalized by those in larger. My response is to question why the vote of someone living in the ghetto of a large state should be less impactful than for someone living in the wide-open spaces of smaller one. I’ve have yet to get a credible response to justify such an obvious inequity.

    Other needed changes in how America votes are required; the last kind of improvements the Republicans want to see enacted. That’s because the number of potential democratic voters, especially including minorities, is continually on the rise; such that red states are now predicted to turn blue in the not-too-distant future. Suppressing the vote of the opposition has therefore become a primary Republican strategy.

    Making it harder for minorities to vote has become the norm. Limiting the location of polling sites and distancing them in locations not easily accessible have flourished. Laws and rules intended to make it more difficult for minorities to qualify to vote have been insidiously implemented.
    Gerrymandering involves redrawing the boundaries of a district to favor the candidate of the party in control. Republican controlled states have been the primary perpetrators of engaging in this unfair tactic of electing state and federal legislators.

    With minority communities less able to leave work and stand in line for hours to cast votes, a secure and sensible alternative is to cast write-in ballots. Republican efforts in the recent election to eliminate this way of voting exemplify their fear of a surging wave of democratic influence.

  100. bespoke

    Which video does YouTube purport that Trump incited violence?

    Probably banned on y tub so only the correct people can play select bits.

  101. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Both of you could have offered that help off-line, could you not?

    Indeed, and I have previously. But with the immediacy of it, it seemed better online at the time.

    I fail to see why this is such an issue of breath-taking importance.

  102. Bruce of Newcastle

    My amusement nerve is getting a workout lately. Seven News first did a story of the ‘orribly unwoke Cooooon brand being nuked by Saputo. The flavour was actually quite cheesy, so much so that the SJW middle management of Seven might be right now writing newsroom-wide memos underlining the importance of more gravely reporting such terrifyingly important stories.

    Then Seven did one on the rebranding of Target stores in NSW. Quite a few of them. They will now all be Kmarts. This will be fun also, whether they really become Kmarts or are just Targets with new paintwork.

    The Target-Kmart rivalry is great fun since they’re owned by the same company. My empirical measurement method is to go into my local Kmart and Target, which are only about 100 m apart, to see if there’s anything I want to buy. Often in Kmart there is, but I wander around the aisles of the Target store and usually I’m out the door without buying anything. There’s nothing there I want. It’s weird, but happens nearly every time I do the test.

  103. Makka

    As a former FBI agent, I know what kind of proof you have to have to pursue a case.

    Ex-member of the most politicized law enforcement outfit on the planet, except Vikpol. They pick and choose their targets depending on hierarchy political bent. Proof being Hunter’s laptop.

    Fk off with your propaganda you commie drongo.

  104. Diogenes

    That’s interesting- I would have thought Latho in the Senate would have been very helpful to Pauline. Then maybe I’m being a naive. Whatever, he’s wasted in the NSW LC.

    No no no no no . Au contraire he is right where he needs to be.

    These last 2 years we see where the real power lies. While the Feds control the purse strings we have seen that the real power in Health and Education & the other things that most affect our day-to-day life is at the State level. As the NSW SFL and ALP are virtually indistinguishable, he serves to keep the bastards honest.

  105. bespoke

    He! wang of looking for video.

  106. Makka

    Turdball pops up to ensure we don’t forget how irrelevant he is. Going after the tough issues, the really edgy stuff, like: Trump is a terrible person.

    Potentially great was Malturd.

  107. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Target recently had some good specials on quality pillows, Bruce.
    I meant to go and get some, but forgot.

    Otherwise, it’s mostly clothes that no-one wants to wear at higher prices than K-Mart.
    K-Mart clothing suits the cheapest of the cheap, and costs almost nothing.
    K-Mart also have very cheap Chinese electricals/kitchenware, very good if on a low income or to keep for emergencies if your good French iron gets knocked off its perch or your SMEG jug gets all Italian and the switch breaks.

  108. Old School Conservative

    un-necessary balding.

    Stimps – get in here to defend yourself!

  109. Some History

    1735099
    #3723072, posted on January 13, 2021 at 6:23 pm
    This, written by an ex-FBI agent, is a good summary of the Big Lie –
    Raymond A. Hult: There is no evidence of election fraud

    He’s a liar like you.

  110. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    While the Feds control the purse strings we have seen that the real power in Health and Education & the other things that most affect our day-to-day life is at the State level.

    An interesting point, Diogenes, for Latham has been very vocal in bringing attention to issues right down to the local area and naming names and shaming those too woke for their own good. It gets results.

  111. calli

    the most politicized law enforcement outfit on the planet, except Vikpol.

    The upshot of all the brouhaha will be a further erosion of trust. Conservatives, once champions of law enforcement are now finding themselves diametrically opposed to these organisations. And what are conservatives within those organisations to do when they see selectivity in what cases to pursue and what ones to leave on political grounds? Do they resign, knowing that any objection will bar them from promotion, or do they remain schtumm and put up with it, hoping for change?

    These organisations are well on the way to being the policing wing of one side of government, just as the media is a propaganda wing.

  112. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Did anyone ever find another copy of that ‘My Way’ Tribute to the Donald? It was on Parler, mais un dossier disparu.

  113. Leigh Lowe

    I fail to see why this is such an issue of breath-taking importance.

    The trouble is, the travails of She Who Shalt Not be Named have been an “issue of breath-taking importance” here for 12 months or more, sponsored by various enablers, most well-meaning, but at least one not.
    One commenter who I think has one of the most finely tuned bullshit detectors of any on this site (Infidel Tiger) said it best some months ago (my paraphrasing):-

    “Sinc. Be careful. You are being played.”

  114. Rex Anger

    @ Calli-

    He’ll either learn to hiss, spit and get his fur up like the other Cats.

    Or he’ll migrate to The Conversation. Either is fine

    Of course, I wrote that before the other Cats trooped into the thread and the whiskey glasses started flying.

    Poor sod…

  115. MatrixTransform

    Stimps – get in here to defend yourself!

    you bold-headed flog

  116. Bruce of Newcastle

    K-Mart clothing suits the cheapest of the cheap, and costs almost nothing.

    Another 50 m along from Target is a Lowes, which is the other go-to place for day-to-day men’s clothes. I’m not skint so price doesn’t actually bother me much, but I want to like the duds and the shirt. Yep, Lowes, yep Kmart, nope Target. It’s weird.

  117. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    “Sinc. Be careful. You are being played.”

    Blind Freddie could see that. I am sure Sinc was well aware of the context.

    Where has IT gone, btw?

  118. Cassie of Sydney

    Trump is a terrible person.”

    Add in his wife, son and daughter…..they are all terrible.

  119. Cassie of Sydney

    My hunch is that Latham is gearing up to run against Fitzgibbon in Hunter at the next election. Just remember, PHON nearly won the seat in May 2019.

  120. Leigh Lowe

    Cassie of Sydney

    #3723115, posted on January 13, 2021 at 6:57 pm

    My hunch is that Latham is gearing up to run against Fitzgibbon in Hunter at the next election. Just remember, PHON nearly won the seat in May 2019.

    Interesting thought.
    You know, Latham is just the sort of guy who could goad the anti-coal faction in the ALP to break ranks and mouth off in the middle of a campaign.

  121. bespoke

    hubris
    But one consequence of imaginative reinvention can be forgetfulness that merges with hubris when we fail to acknowledge how old legacies contribute to current work.

  122. Leigh Lowe

    Blind Freddie could see that. I am sure Sinc was well aware of the context.

    You mean egging someone on to feign health dramas and then lodge an online bullying compo claim?

    Where has IT gone, btw?

    As part of the agreement to buy out his share of Catallaxy he has agreed to stay off the Cat for 12 months.

  123. feelthebern

    I can’t see Latham moving his family.

  124. bespoke

    Whats on the menu for Friday night, Matrix?

  125. Knuckle Dragger

    Sources indicate that IT/K is about half way through a failed rose (ro-zay) importing and consuming business.

  126. Bruce of Newcastle

    The upshot of all the brouhaha will be a further erosion of trust.

    The FBI have been increasingly on the nose for a long time, which you can immediately see in Die Hard, a movie that’s 33 years old. Not much respect for them in that fillum.

    And with the events of the last four years it’s clear they’re now at the level of the Stazi in their outlook and their approach. I’m not indulging in hyperbowl either, they’ve become an American Stazi alongside their fellows at the American KGB.

  127. feelthebern

    This US COVID declaration comes into force on the 26th January.
    According to the current CDC advice (which will change 10x depending on the politics), you either need a test showing a negative test or a certificate saying you’ve recovered.
    Having the vaccine or not is currently not going to be a factor.

    This tells us by the end of January rapid antigen testing is going to be widely available.
    Looks like the airline industry has had a win.

  128. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3723123, posted on January 13, 2021 at 7:07 pm

    Sources indicate that IT/K is about half way through a failed rose (ro-zay) importing and consuming business.

    Rosé.
    Jesus wept.
    I thought he was taking the piss.
    It’s like catching Dirty Harry Callaghan in drag.
    Shocking revelation.

  129. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I thought he was taking the piss.’

    Well, if he’s not in the ro-zay business it’s logical that he should be.

  130. WX

    Having worked numerous [my bolding] fraud cases as an FBI special agent

    I cannot put my finger on it, but I find that an odd statement of one’s professional experience.

  131. Bruce of Newcastle

    Cassie – The problem is if Latham stands the Photios group will force the local Lib to preference Labor over PHON because save da world. There would be many many crocodile tears spilt during the decision, more in sorrow than in anger and similar vapid stuff for the press releases.

    The tradie who stood nearly won because he is a tradie. That low key approach has a lot of cred.

  132. Dr Faustus

    Raymond A. Hult: There is no evidence of election fraud

    George Orwell had some good ideas about the power of controlling the meaning of language.

    Where “evidence” = ‘proof investigated and documented to a standard acceptable to a US federal prosecutor seeking to invalidate an election result because of voting/counting irregularities across 50 State jurisdictions’, Mr Hult is spot on.

    Where “evidence” = an Everyman definition along the lines of: ‘that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof’, Mr Hult is on much shakier ground.

    His actual problem is getting Trump’s “brainwashed followers“ to buy into his preferred definition without a reasonable forensic investigation of their preferred definition.

    Loudly stating ‘I was an FBI Agent, YOU WILL OBEY’ probably won’t cut it.

  133. Cassie of Sydney

    “Bruce of Newcastle
    #3723129, posted on January 13, 2021 at 7:15 pm
    Cassie – The problem is if Latham stands the Photios group will force the local Lib to preference Labor over PHON because save da world. There would be many many crocodile tears spilt during the decision, more in sorrow than in anger and similar vapid stuff for the press releases.

    The tradie who stood nearly won because he is a tradie. That low key approach has a lot of cred.”

    You’re right BoN. I think that tradie should run again.

  134. Leigh Lowe

    Interesting.
    Ben Dunk, the BBL cricketer who refused to bend the knee to acknowledge Marxists past, present and emerging has “mutually agreed” to terminate his contract with the Melbourne Stars.
    Admittedly his form has dropped off, but I wonder.
    Aspiring ALP candidate, Eddie Maguire, is on the Stars board.

  135. H B Bear

    Yep, Lowes, yep Kmart, nope Target. It’s weird.

    Retailing at that price point is an art. Write it all off as cheap Chinese crap (which it is) at your peril. There is plenty of money to be made and if you are any good at it be handsomely rewarded.

  136. Rockdoctor

    Fitzy also brought that grub Kean on to Centennial Coals site near Morriset recently. They seemed a little too chummy for my liking. I’d say informally the contact is already there like Bruce describes…

  137. Mater

    This, written by an ex-FBI agent, is a good summary of the Big Lie –

    Raymond A. Hult: There is no evidence of election fraud

    Raymond A. Holt, author of such balanced page turners as:

    Agnosticity: Volume 1 – An Agnostic View of Bothersome Christian Doctrine.

    Where:
    “A retired FBI special agent and converted agnostic uses his investigative instincts to probe the most bothersome doctrines of Christianity.”

    And

    Agnosticity: Volume 2 – An Agnostic View of Bothersome Mormon Doctrine.

    Where:
    “A retired FBI Special Agent and converted Agnostic uses his investigative instincts to probe the most bothersome doctrines of Mormonism.”

    And all-round tamed anti-Trumper, earning a living catering to Lefties.

    Raymond A. Hult: Trump was clearly unprepared for coronavirus pandemic

    Where:

    “a retired FBI special agent with years of experience putting bungling subjects in jail because of their inability to adequately prepare to avoid the inevitable adverse consequences.”

  138. egg_

    Dunno if already posted but worth a larf:

  139. Dr Faustus

    Dunno if already posted but worth a larf:

    Looks like Kevni missed out at the audition for the Aldi Christmas TVads.

  140. Leo G

    Fairfax repport by Stephen Brook and Nick Bonyhady appearing in the Sydney Morning Herald online today 5.14pm
    Google admits to removing local news content in ‘experiment’

    Internet search giant Google has admitted that it has been intermittently blocking some Australian news sites from search users.
    In recent days internet users have reported Australian news sites disappearing from Google’s search function, with old content and links being displayed.
    The multinational technology giant said on Wednesday it had been running “experiments” on searches for newspaper websites including The Sydney Morning Herald that had affected only a tiny number of users.

    “We’re currently running a few experiments that will each reach about 1 per cent of Google Search users in Australia to measure the impacts of news businesses and Google Search on each other,” a spokesman said.
    “In 2018, the value we provided to publishers through referral traffic alone was estimated at $218 million.”

    The admission from the digital giant comes in the middle of a battle between the federal government and the tech giants over plans to force Google and Facebook to pay news publishers for displaying their content.

    A spokesman for Nine, owner of the Herald and The Age, said the search results made it “starkly clear” that local news was critical to Google’s products.
    “Google is an effective monopoly and by withholding access to such timely, accurate and important information they show clearly how they impact what access Australians have to that,” the spokesman said.
    “At the same time, Google are now demonstrating how easily they can make Australian news providers who fall out of their favour effectively disappear from the internet — a chilling illustration of their extraordinary market power.”

    Interesting times.

  141. egg_

    Looks like Kevni missed out at the audition for the Aldi Christmas TVads.

    He still looks like Santa KRudd!

  142. Bruce of Newcastle

    Ben Dunk, the BBL cricketer who refused to bend the knee to acknowledge Marxists past, present and emerging has “mutually agreed” to terminate his contract with the Melbourne Stars.

    They did the knee thing with such ceremonial pompousness it was embarrassing.
    The tv went off at lightspeed. I will not be watching another BBL game.

    (I had some fun after JC’s comment about Kamala not being African American. It turns out the Caribbean islands are part of North America. So she is technically African American. But, and this was the fun thing, by that argument so am I. 😀 )

  143. Rex Anger

    @ Leo G-

    Indeed.

    Still, it can go either way. Everyone can cringe into line as the Goolag cracks its whip, or it gets a practical dose of anti-trusting from governments telling them “Get bent, fuckos!” And national companies springing up to pick up the slack instead.

    Let the oligarchs sow the seeds of their own demise…

  144. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Goolag should “experiment” with “disappearing” the Silly Moaning Haemorrhoid permanently.

    No one would notice anyway.

  145. Knuckle Dragger

    Chick fights. Love ’em, but stay away from them. Over the horizon away. The Hun:

    ‘A middle-aged woman has bitten off part of her friend’s finger during a drunken brawl at a Cranbourne South barbecue, a court has heard. Mansis Bandi, 50, fronted the County Court on Wednesday, January 13, pleading guilty to one charge of recklessly causing serious injury.

    ‘Bandi left a woman in her 40s with a partly-amputated finger among other injuries after the wild fight at a Cranbourne South farm in the early hours of Sunday, October 15, 2017.’

    Both combatants were from PNG. It’s not mentioned what kicked off the barbie bitefest, but apparently the long pig was taking a bit – well, long.

  146. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    But one consequence of imaginative reinvention can be forgetfulness that merges with hubris when we fail to acknowledge how old legacies contribute to current work.

    Good to see a little self-reflection going on there, Bespoke. There’s been a lot of sunglass hubris. 🙂

  147. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘The tv went off at lightspeed.’

    Missed that unsavoury exercise. Was speaking to a drum teacher, who appears convinced my spawn’s the next Bonham.

  148. Frank

    Rudd’s beard; he stretches… grasping, yearning for some manliness. Fails again.

  149. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Lamb cutlets for us tonight. With my home made tomato sauce and some pasta. And broccoli.

    And now an Italian Aperol, with soda water and vino sparkles.

  150. Dover Beach:

    Which video does YouTube purport that Trump incited violence?

    All of them.
    It doesn’t really matter, just the sheer existence of President Trump is an incitement to violence for them.

  151. Cassie of Sydney

    “It doesn’t really matter, just the sheer existence of President Trump is an incitement to violence for them.

    Exactly, the left will apply year zero to Trump and his family….it’s already happening….they’re trying to destroy the Trump family…

  152. miltonf

    Yep. 2020 is like 1918. They’re having another go.

  153. Bruce of Newcastle

    Rudd’s beard

    Looks like a caterpillar doing laps. Really doesn’t work. If he’s after gravitas he should let it pupate.

  154. miltonf

    As I’ve said in another thread- the American political class is the most corrupt, evil, degenerate collection of parasites imaginable. Many have been in congress for decades and should now, at best, be in nursing homes.

  155. Leigh Lowe

    Loudly stating ‘I was an FBI Agent, YOU WILL OBEY’ probably won’t cut it.

    Sounds very much like the ABC types on The Queen vs Pell trying to put down George’s supporters:-

    Ooohh. If you saw all the evidence you wouldn’t be saying that. I know stuff.

    As an aside, the very diligent DPP who mounted multiple contempt cases against journalists for breaching suppression orders, never once asked Faino and co how they came to know details of suppressed evidence, as they claimed.

  156. Rex Anger

    Yep. 2020 is like 1918. They’re having another go.

    Meaning that by 2025, the great Soviet experiment Mk2 will have completely collapsed again. If the first attempt and its associated timeline (1918-23) are anything to go by.

    Faster if a secession of Red States occurs, or an insurgency picks up and boils over.

  157. Old School Conservative

    Here’s why bitcoin could be a problem for the absent minded.

    The only thing standing between Stefan Thomas and his $US245 million bitcoin fortune is his password. And therein lies the problem.

    Mr Thomas, a programmer based in Silicon Valley, is struggling to remember it. He has made eight incorrect stabs. Two more wrong goes and his holding in the digital currency will be lost for ever.

    Mr Thomas had stored the keys to a digital wallet containing 7,002 bitcoins in an IronKey hard drive, he told The New York Times. He had received the bitcoins in 2011 in payment for making an animated video explaining how the currency works. Bitcoin prices fluctuated that year from a few dollars to a peak of dollars 32. Yesterday (Tuesday) a single bitcoin was valued at nearly dollars 35,000.

    Mr Thomas had written the password to his IronKey device on a piece of paper, which he then lost. Users have up to ten tries to enter the correct code before the device locks up and encrypts its contents.

  158. Rex Anger:

    Meaning that by 2025, the great Soviet experiment Mk2 will have completely collapsed again. If the first attempt and its associated timeline (1918-23) are anything to go by.
    Faster if a secession of Red States occurs, or an insurgency picks up and boils over.

    I’ve read quite a few novels on an American civil war. Most of them bodice ripper style, but there were a couple of quite good ones.
    Your opinion on how it would go?

  159. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Your opinion on how it would go?’

    My opinion – filthy socialists shot through the nuts and thrown in a pit.

    Which is the exact opposite of the aggressors’ intended aim, but I still think they’ve underestimated the deplorables.

  160. miltonf

    New York and Silicon Valley really are cankers on the US body politic. Chicago too.

  161. Geriatric Mayfly

    Wonder if trump still owns that private Boeing jet. As he will still the President and Commander in Chief on Jan 20 until Biden says “I do;” a fly-over of the Capitol, unhindered, would be a fitting distraction as he wings his way to Scotland.

  162. Bruce of Newcastle

    KD – The socialists would be politely deported. Then shot at if they attempted to return.

    Red USA is based on Christianity. There’s always a hope that even the woke might get a road to Damascus result – which has happened to some very unlikely recipients, like the lesbian professor of some note. Amazing lady.

    A call to arms in Red states could conceivably see ten million armed people turn out. A call to arms in the Blue states would get very few people turn up, as we saw in all those Biden “rallies”.

  163. Knuckle Dragger

    Perhaps they could emigrate to Cuba Bruce, and live cheerfully.

    In squalor. In cheerful squalor.

  164. feelthebern

    Is Next going to taken off all streaming platforms?
    What about Mr Robot?

  165. Roger

    Which video does YouTube purport that Trump incited violence?

    Whichever ones he appears in.

  166. Roger

    As I’ve said in another thread- the American political class is the most corrupt, evil, degenerate collection of parasites imaginable. Many have been in congress for decades and should now, at best, be in nursing homes.

    They make the members of the old Soviet Politburo look positively virtuous by comparison.

  167. Bruce of Newcastle

    Perhaps they could emigrate to Cuba Bruce, and live cheerfully.

    Interestingly KD there are a hundred and fifty or so Reformed churches in Cuba that I’ve more or less heard of. Then all the other denominations. They keep beneath the radar. We hear rare updates in our church. Almost certainly there are more Bible-believing Christians in Cuba than in Australia. We’re very comfortable in our soft Australian lifestyle – which is an anomaly in the usual nasty, brutish and short human experience.

  168. Rex Anger

    @ Winston-

    I’m honestly not sure.

    The original secession gutted the US Army and Navy, as old loyalties and family took precedence over the organisation.

    What really won the war for the North was its industrial concentration and greater numbers. The CSA, for all its leaders’ strategic and tactical brilliance, was never going to be able to raise and equip more troops or replace their losses. And every piece of weaponry or infrastructure destroyed hurt them far more than their Yankee opponents.

    Nowadays, I’m not sure. The coastal Blue States and some of their richer fellow travellers would try to call in debts, and/or perhaps try to force garrisoned Federal units to take up their flag. But the divide now seems so deep and so personal America-wide, that the bloodletting would be crippling at all levels. I’d expect mass exodus events akin to the Partitioning of India, almost. And even that turned out to be a hell of a mess for the Indians and Pakistanis.

  169. Cassie of Sydney

    “They make the members of the old Soviet Politburo look positively virtuous by comparison.”

    At least some of those in the old Soviet Politburo had been born into poverty…so they first hand experience of deprivation and squalor plus many had worked in blue collar industries or were children of blue collar workers.

    In contract, the US elites, like here in Oz, have never experienced poverty or deprivation, they are all children of the middle class or wealthy…most of them wouldn’t even know how to change a tap. They are indeed the most corrupt, evil, degenerate collection of parasites imaginable

  170. Bruce of Newcastle

    Rex – The Partitioning of India is a very good analogy, given the religiosity of the Left at the moment. I’ve been musing to myself about the similarities between the new green-progressive religion and Is lam, they’re quite analogous in their approaches. Both are aggressive and millennialist, and both think they have to conquer the world to save it.

  171. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I’d expect mass exodus events akin to the Partitioning of India, almost.’

    Yup.

    Of course I don’t want this to actually happen, but I believe it to be true that the noodle-armers turn to pallets of half-bricks and Molotovs – which naturally make the best pictures – at the first opportunity.

    The people they’ve consistently targeted see that as their last*. And the filthy socialists are, bit by bit, removing normal Americans’ options from them.

    *It won’t be bricks either.

  172. Runnybum

    Cassie @ 9.08 pm.
    And many on this site still vote for them.
    I will now duck the banana barrage 😉

  173. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops, I meant “millenarian” but millennialist isn’t too badly out.

  174. miltonf

    The vicious sense of entitlement of filth like bidet, clinton, pelosi, schiff and schumer is vomit making. One thing’s for sure, they are not nice people and they don’t wish joe citizen well.

  175. Leigh Lowe

    Runnybum

    #3723275, posted on January 13, 2021 at 9:18 pm

    Cassie @ 9.08 pm.
    And many on this site still vote for them.

    Who do you vote for Ted?
    I need to know.

  176. Rex Anger

    Rex – The Partitioning of India is a very good analogy, given the religiosity of the Left at the moment

    I need to get Kurt Schlichter’s novels (and TE’s book. And Sinc’s…) and have a good read. I think his premise for a divided Red vs Blue America is based on such a Partition. I am nit sure if it is described or not.

  177. Johno

    Only way USA can survive is if they organise a recall through the States. Do a recall of Governor, Senator and House in the states . Some will get through others won’t. But you only need a couple, then you have a flip.So, no house majority,no Senate Majority. Then you have a President with regulations. Boo Hoo .
    How you travellin Obey Won McHopey Change? Bubba????

  178. Runnybum

    Biggles, I have told you before I am a PHON supporter.
    She may not be the sharpest tool in the shed but she is a real supporter of Australians & I like that.
    Who do you support, trumble?

  179. Runnybum

    BTW, thanks Cassie, I love the handle you gave me.

  180. Rex Anger

    I will now duck the banana barrage 😉

    There was a great DOS computer game like that once.

    Two gorillas flinging exploding bananas at each other across a destructible cityscape.

    If your angle and speed were bad, the banana would boomerang back at you…

  181. Leigh Lowe

    Who do you support, trumble?

    Such impertinence!
    I’ll ask the questions.
    Given PHON are no hope in the House of Reps, who do you preference second?

  182. Knuckle Dragger

    Apropos of nothing, I will now quote Exeter from Henry V, Act I Scene II:

    ‘Tennis-balls, my liege.’

  183. Runnybum

    Biggles, PHON has no chance in the reps is because morons like you vote the same corrupt thieving bastards every time.
    You asked who I voted for & I politely replied….your turn.

  184. Cassie of Sydney

    “The vicious sense of entitlement of filth like bidet, clinton, pelosi, schiff and schumer is vomit making. One thing’s for sure, they are not nice people and they don’t wish joe citizen well.”

    They don’t have a monopoly on filth…..look at what we’ve got here in Oz…..

    Kevvie Rudd
    Malcolm Turdbull
    Julie Bishop
    Paul Keating
    Bob Carr

    and that’s just a small sample. Cretinous elitist filth…..every single one of them.

  185. Knuckle Dragger

    And now Westmoreland, later in Scene II. May or may not apply to Runny:

    ‘Son, just having a head like a spark plug doesn’t make you a Champion.’

  186. Leigh Lowe

    Listen up Ted (the very similar one).
    You are the one constantly telling people who they shouldn’t vote for.
    I do no such lecturing.
    Therefore, it behoves you to share your wisdom, oh Great Sage of the North.
    Unless … unless … you don’t put the sitting member last by some remote chance, do you?

  187. miltonf

    Too true Cassie. The political class is the enemy.

  188. Cassie of Sydney

    Okay…let me tell you all who I will not be voting for….

    Riccardo Bosi.

  189. WX

    I’m not sure about civil war in the U.S. in a broad, open-scale sense. No doubt some of the militia will be fielding interest from a larger number of prospective members, and perhaps singular counties may witness brief attempts at the ejection of Federal authorities. What would be interesting is if certain areas were declared no-go zones for the parasitic media. The key will be effective civilian intelligence networks.

  190. Runnybum

    Biggles, I live in the socialist capture area of Ipswich, i always put the liars last.
    I never tell people who to vote for, I only advise people to stop voting for the same corrupt thieving bastards who have fkd us over & screwed the Australian people over what was once a beautiful country, where hard work & friendship meant something instead of the bitter in fighting the political toerags have created.

  191. Bruce of Newcastle

    Rex – He’s creepily accurate. His latest was completed in November, it has a scene reminiscent of the Capitol last Wednesday…

    Good rollicking stories, like J.E. MacDonald meets John Wick. 😀

  192. MatrixTransform

    and the whiskey glasses started flying

    thanks for the xmas present
    ur so thoughtful
    the lead crystal kinda has that extra heft

  193. feelthebern

    Looks like Victorians forgot how to swim they were in lock down so long.
    Thanks Dan !

  194. Rex Anger

    What would be interesting is if certain areas were declared no-go zones for the parasitic media. The key will be effective civilian intelligence networks.

    Plenty examples of such organisation from the Arab Spring/Winter, and the battles of Mosul, etc. in the last 4 years. Airstrikes via secure messaging apps, and mass messaging of movements, etc.

    The only way to stop it is to frag all mobile towers, and that blacks out everyone without HF, VHF or UHF radios. And if landlines are cit, there is always hand-delivered…

  195. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops, J.E. Macdonnell. Haven’t read any of his stuff since school, but he created an impression.

  196. feelthebern

    Roger Stone was on the Anthony Cumia show today.
    He’s prone to embellishment, but he said the GOP raised $US200mill post the election in “Stop the Steal” based fund raising.
    But they didn’t spend a cent of it.
    The Wood, Powell stuff was independent of that.
    As was Rudi.
    It demonstrates only retards look at this as a GOP v DNC issue.
    It’s Washington War Machine versus anyone who wants to stop that gravy train.

  197. Leigh Lowe

    Cassie of Sydney

    #3723334, posted on January 13, 2021 at 9:53 pm

    Okay…let me tell you all who I will not be voting for….

    Riccardo Bosi.

    Code violation, Mr Bundy.
    Racquet abuse.
    First warning.

  198. Runnybum

    Oh do shut up biggles, you are one of the many fools who seem to like the socialist trajectory of Australia.
    Shove ya ‘racket’ up your trumpet.

  199. Leigh Lowe

    Ted (the very similar one).
    What the actual fuck?
    Are you telling me you don’t put the Stupid Fucking Liberals last on the ballot?
    I am …
    I just can’t …
    This is bigger than finding out ITK is a rosè drinker.

  200. feelthebern

    Roger Stone was in Washington last week submitting the paperwork on his pardon.
    I can’t remember which hotel he was at, but it was near the Capitol so he saw it all unfolding.
    Anyway he was going to stay that night but ended up flying back to Florida in the evening with a mate on the mates private jet.
    Anyway, it turns out that as he was taking off, an FBI team was kicking in the door of his hotel room looking to detain him.
    Anyway, if the interview comes out from behind the paywall, I’ll post it.

  201. Leigh Lowe

    Runnybum

    #3723353, posted on January 13, 2021 at 10:07 pm

    Oh do shut up biggles …

    Code violation Mr Bundy.
    Verbal abuse of the chair umpire.
    Second and final warning.

  202. Nick

    Oh do shut up biggles …

    Is that needling ?

  203. Runnybum

    Biggles, you are the clever one here, figure it out.
    They ain’t called the uniparty for nothing.
    You still haven’t said who you vote for……
    Come now biggles, show your mettle or are you afraid the groovy gang will find out your true intentions??

  204. Runnybum

    Final warning?
    Go run to sinc ya bonehead.

  205. Nick

    Thanks witch

    Hawthorn forward Jonathon Patton is in hospital as the club continues to investigate his alleged inappropriate conduct on social media after several women accused the 27-year-old of lewd behaviour.

    The Age has confirmed, via a statement from his management team Connor Sports, that the key forward had been admitted to a hospital to deal with ongoing mental health issues.

  206. feelthebern

    The abuse of the USA v Brogan ruling is a disgrace would probably catch out 99% of people it’s used against.
    RBG’s dessenting opinion in the case was one of the only times that racist old bag said anything worthwhile remembering.

  207. Runnybum

    Mini me….you checked your email…

  208. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Thanks witch’

    Stupid skank. Right now her publicist is on the horn to every C grade reality TV show in the country.

  209. feelthebern

    Hawthorn forward Jonathon Patton is in hospital as the club continues to investigate his alleged inappropriate conduct on social media after several women accused the 27-year-old of lewd behaviour.

    Horny young women & a horny young man engage in horny discourse via smartphones.
    When did the world become so puritan?

  210. Nick

    KD, had Patton had an alternate sexuality, imagine the outrage at his treatment
    Sometimes I wish a football player pretended to be gay just to yank their chains a little

  211. Rex Anger

    Rex, MV ?

    Errr…

    Random tennis interjections!

    (I blame KD)

  212. Runnybum

    Umpire Rex, Runnybum claims the match as biggles has gone to consult with his coaches.

  213. Rex Anger

    I give up.

    This game has become such a racquet…

    Anyone for [Lemon] Squash?

  214. WX

    Rex Anger
    #3723344, posted on January 13, 2021 at 10:03 pm

    Plenty examples of such organisation

    I foresee phantoms.
    Nuf sed.

  215. Runnybum

    I am off to the farting bag.
    Goodnight all & wish you all well & happiness in our future.

  216. feelthebern

    Another thing Roger Stone said was that in the guts of DC, outside the White House or outside the Capitol building, mobile phone coverage is terrible due to the systems that Homeland Security & the Secret Service use ie counter measures.
    To get decent coverage in the hotels close to Capitol, you have to use the hotels wifi (which is nuts for someone like him).

    What he’s getting at is that there was nothing co-ordinated on the day, because phones would have been next to useless for non users of the Capitol buildings multiple, allegedly secure wifi networks.

  217. Leigh Lowe

    Sometimes I wish a football player pretended to be gay just to yank their chains a little

    Marc Murphy has been doing it for years and no-one has taken much notice.
    Now, make my tea.
    You’re late.
    Surely it hasn’t taken this long to write Bespoke up?

  218. Rex Anger

    I foresee phantoms.
    Nuf sed.

    Shoot! I had forgotten about those…

  219. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘When did the world become so puritan?’

    Not sure it puritanism bern. It most certainly is these moles recognising him as being worth quite a bit of cash, and going on the pad for it.

    Would not surprise me one little bit to find she’s originally approached the club for a bit of hush cash, and got told to fuck off so now she’s playing the victim in public. Horrible footbally man wanted to do things to me.

    The red flag: This Elle Conan thing, pictured on the noos vamping it up on her bed said a text conversation between them ‘somehow ended up’ being a Facetime arrangement. Bullshit, and lots of it.

    No cash for you now Elle, and you’re two year too late for #metoo. You’ll have to do with the publicity, which will end tomorrow lunchtime.

  220. Leigh Lowe

    Runnybum

    #3723386, posted on January 13, 2021 at 10:26 pm

    Umpire Rex, Runnybum claims the match as biggles has gone to consult with his coaches.

    I could go for a pot and parma and it wouldn’t make any difference.
    You’d be still serving into the net when I got back.

  221. Rex Anger

    What he’s getting at is that there was nothing co-ordinated on the day, because phones would have been next to useless for non users of the Capitol buildings multiple, allegedly secure wifi networks.

    OK. That makes a pre-rehearsed action with specific players more plausible. And the Narrative of a coordinated assault less practical…

  222. Nick

    You’re late.
    Surely it hasn’t taken this long to write Bespoke up?

    I demand better than a Nissan Micra and an Apple IIE.
    Where are our donors ? Surely theres a dopey dowager somewhere ?

  223. Knuckle Dragger

    Tonight’s (unintended) tennis theme has everything bar the grunting.

    Then again, Elle Conan did get a mention.

  224. Nick

    Marc Murphy has been doing it for years and no-one has taken much notice.

    Essendon can’t wait to have as many fags as Carlton has

  225. Leigh Lowe

    Where are our donors ? Surely theres a dopey dowager somewhere ?

    What?
    You don’t think …
    Surely not?

  226. Leigh Lowe

    Essendon can’t wait to have as many fags as Carlton has

    Well, playing heteros hasn’t done us any good, so why not draft a few in from Sydney.

  227. Rex Anger

    Tonight’s (unintended) tennis theme has everything bar the grunting.

    Still your fault.

    As an aside, I do wish someone would drop a massive fart for once on court. Much more entertaining…

  228. Leigh Lowe

    We could get ScoMo to change one word of our anthem.

    See the Bummers fly up, up …

  229. The Beer Whisperer

    What a fucking bitch. This from the shiela who’s husband pretended every weekend to be a christian having enabled his wife to become filthy rich off Queensland taxpayers.

  230. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    As an aside, I do wish someone would drop a massive fart for once on court. Much more entertaining…

    The unit was on parade, the commanding officer addressing the troops in censorious tones about their standard of behavior, particularly their habit of brawling with civilians off base, and somebody dropped the loudest fart I have ever heard..

  231. The Beer Whisperer

    The people they’ve consistently targeted see that as their last*. And the filthy socialists are, bit by bit, removing normal Americans’ options from them.

    KD, they’re making the worst possible mistake imaginable. They’re backing their very heavily armed enemies into a corner. Even Sun Tzu understood the error of this thousands of years ago.

    But then again, as evil as they are, the Democrats are fundamentally stupid.

  232. Leigh Lowe

    Cassie of Sydney

    #3723334, posted on January 13, 2021 at 9:53 pm

    Okay…let me tell you all who I will not be voting for….

    Riccardo Bosi.

    Just a question (and I genuinely don’t know the answer to this).
    What is Bosi’s view (if any) on the Port Arthur massacre?

  233. Knuckle Dragger

    Belatedly:

    13 January is St. Knut’s Day. St. Knut’s Day is celebrated in Finland and Sweden.

    ‘Canute Lavard (Knut Levard in Swedish) was a Danish duke who was assassinated by his cousin and rival Magnus Nilsson on 7 January 1131 so he could usurp the Danish throne. In the aftermath of his death there was a civil war, which led to Knut being later declared a saint, and 7 January became Knut’s Day.

    ‘In 1680, Knut’s Day was moved to 13 January and became known as tjugondag Knut or tjugondedag jul (the “twentieth day of Knut/Christmas”).’

    Well done to Knuts everywhere.

  234. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘KD, they’re making the worst possible mistake imaginable.’

    Poking the bear, Beery. Poking that there bear.

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