Open Forum: January 9, 2021

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  1. stackja

    Is the angry private posting this morning? Scrolling, scrolling…

  2. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    As someone who has had to endure root canals & recently, an implant – I think you are doing very well, Lizzie!

    I have to meet an anaesthetist as well as a dentist before anything like than can be done to me.

    As it stands, I am psyching myself up for the ordeal, and will be lucky to make it to the surgery.
    Thank you though for the moral support. I think I may tell him two is enough for today, not four, which I will tell him I regard as his ambit claim. Negotiate or I go, I will say.

  3. Dr Faustus

    C00n cheese to be renamed Cheer.

    The “activist” responsible says aboriginal people should have been consulted and will press ahead with plans for a multi-million dollar lawsuit for damages sustained over his 21 year crusade.”

    Adds an exciting new dimension to Go Woke, Go Broke.
    Not sure ‘Munni’ cheese would fly off the shelves.

  4. Nick

    It’s not happening, Nick. Find another bone to chew on. It was never my baby.

    Only Calli and Cassie expressed much interest, and they are big readers regardless.

    Eh? Who made you Librarian? As you said, it’s not your baby, baby.

  5. Nick

    The Age

    EDITORIAL
    Victoria’s treatment of its own residents is not proportionate, fair or reasonable

    Ooh.

  6. H B Bear

    ASIC “ I think we may be the least effective Cth agency”
    AUSTRAC “Hold my beer”

  7. Vicki

    Problem is as someone else has posted Americans are a little more excitable than us Commonwealth types

    It’s all about history & the origins of government process. Our “New World” took quite different turn. While the Yankees kicked out the British, we maintained British jurisdiction, laws and law enforcement. Even in remote locations troopers & courts administered the law. In a similar period western settlements in the nascent US contracted “the law” out and there is plenty of folklore to illustrate how that turned out.

    But at the end of the day, for all their reputation as knockabout types, Australians are essentially law abiding. They are brave, adventurous and stalwart under adversity – but (except for the Eureka escapade) they are essentially acquiescent to government.

    And I have not mentioned the US Civil War. Having just watched the most excellent series on Ulysses S Grant on Foxtel, I am reminded of the staggering animosity of that war and what it tells us about the ferocity of the American spirit of independence.

    I am terrified that we are about to see this displayed once again.

  8. Roger

    ASIC “ I think we may be the least effective Cth agency”
    AUSTRAC “Hold my beer”

    Evidently maths quizzes don’t feature on the public service examination any more.

    Or do they just induct them directly from Arts graduation ceremonies these days?

  9. Runnybum

    Probably been posted but US house of reprobates has voted to impeach Trump.

  10. Nick

    Osman Faruqi

    McCormack’s comments reflect a deliberate and concerted effort to embrace racist rhetoric, in order to downplay the political violence in the US. And their significance cannot be understated.
    The Deputy Prime Minister’s comparison between Black Lives Matter and the Capitol riots was ostensibly based on the fact that both caused damage. It’s an absurd justification. Even if there was some way to quantify and compare the total damage done (To property? To livelihoods?) they are incomparable events. One is a global movement for racial justice aimed at correcting the consequences of hundreds of years of slavery, dispossession and discrimination. The other was an attempt to violently seize control of the political centre of the most powerful nation on earth, encouraged and abetted by a president who had created an anti-democratic coalition of white supremacists and conspiracy theorists.

    Yeah, riiigghhtt

  11. stackja

    Vicki – USA Civil War is still being played out. Democrats never accepted Lincoln election now they have shown that they never accepted Trump.

  12. Roger

    A word of advice, Osman – don’t over egg the pudding.

    Even those invites on to The Dumb might dry up.

  13. Vicki

    I think I may tell him two is enough for today, not four, which I will tell him I regard as his ambit claim. Negotiate or I go, I will say.

    Lizzie, if they are all in one sector of the mouth – go for it. Otherwise, two visits is more comfortable, although it does extend the ordeal.

    I was traumatised when told I would have to have an implant. Fortunately, my oral surgeon turned out to be extraordinary. He explained the whole procedure calmly, gently and in detail. I like information! It was not a straight forward procedure, but he turned out to be an expert in the technical aspects. When I had to return for further work, and explained that I had since experienced a family tragedy and was especially fragile – he hugged me. That simple gesture of human sympathy made such a difference.

    A fine professional and a good man.

  14. bespoke

    why and how he is tolerated on this public blog is a mystery.

    Not defending the guy Mark but lefties have used “it’s a public space” to get unrestricted access to blogs from begging. It needs to be consistent that blogs are private open to only who they choose. Or “your a guest subject to my whims”.

  15. jupes

    Probably been posted but US house of reprobates has voted to impeach Trump.

    Well, gosh. who could have seen that coming?

  16. H B Bear

    A word of advice, Osman – don’t over egg the pudding.
    Even those invites on to The Dumb might dry up.

    Rent-a-Muzzies are a dime a dozen. As that one who voluntarily exiled to Londonistan soon found out.

  17. Eyrie

    Any IT savvy Cats? HEEELP!

    Windows 10 PC

    When trying to open Cashflow Manager (very old version, it is all we need) we are getting a Philips Flash Utility trying to install itself (maybe the latest 2.2.3 version to replace 2.2.2). I did install this quite some years ago but can’t find exactly where it is on the system. It is in the apps list but when you go to uninstall it asks if you want the uninstaller to make changes to your PC. Right now I’m very suspicious.

    Anyone know of a way to remove this without using the Windows Uninstaller?

  18. Roger

    Rent-a-Muzzies are a dime a dozen. As that one who voluntarily exiled to Londonistan soon found out.

    Within 24 hours she went from fronting her own program to being referred to on news reports as “a casual employee of the ABC”.

  19. Eyrie

    I did run a complete scan with Defender. No problems found.

  20. Runnybum

    Jupes, 10 Rinos too including McLames daughter.
    Another real shock hoho.

  21. bespoke

    it asks if you want the uninstaller to make changes to your PC. Right now I’m very suspicious.

    That’s normal.

  22. Cassie of Sydney

    “Osman Faruqi

    McCormack’s comments reflect a deliberate and concerted effort to embrace racist rhetoric, in order to downplay the political violence in the US. And their significance cannot be understated.
    The Deputy Prime Minister’s comparison between Black Lives Matter and the Capitol riots was ostensibly based on the fact that both caused damage. It’s an absurd justification. Even if there was some way to quantify and compare the total damage done (To property? To livelihoods?) they are incomparable events. One is a global movement for racial justice aimed at correcting the consequences of hundreds of years of slavery, dispossession and discrimination. The other was an attempt to violently seize control of the political centre of the most powerful nation on earth, encouraged and abetted by a president who had created an anti-democratic coalition of white supremacists and conspiracy theorists.”

    Please note that Faruqi has never said boo about the “years of slavery, dispossession and discrimination” as practised by his toxic and vile ideology…because the fact is that it was over a thousand years of slavery, dispossession and discrimination.

    I also note that this mother, Greens senator Mehreen Faruqi, has never said anything about the persecution of brown skinned Christians in Pakistan.

    The fact that grubs like Osman Faruqi and this mother are given any platform shows just how bad this country has become.

  23. Eyrie

    bespoke
    #3723839, posted on January 14, 2021 at 11:48 am

    it asks if you want the uninstaller to make changes to your PC. Right now I’m very suspicious.

    That’s normal.

    Thanks , bespoke. I know that is normal but why does the installer for the Flash utility want to run when I launch Cashflow Manager?

  24. areff

    Did I miss a good show?

    Yes. A quite remarkable filum

  25. Leigh Lowe

    it asks if you want the uninstaller to make changes to your PC.

    “Make changes to your PC” is the poor English expression typical of IT types.
    It would cause less angst if the expression was “execute the changes you requested”.

  26. Leigh Lowe

    Probably been posted but US house of reprobates has voted to impeach Trump.

    Which way did PHON reps vote?

  27. John of Mel

    Negotiate or I go, I will say.

    My wife had to do a few teeth a year ago. After getting a few quotes from local dentists we bought a ticket to Bali for her. After a lazy week there and a few visits to a German-run dental shop we ended-up spending a few grands less. Good thing it all happened in January.
    Sometimes I think this border closure is all a big conspiracy by dentists to stop people getting (much) cheaper treatment abroad.

  28. Runnybum

    Dunno biggles, go look you dimbulb.

  29. Runnybum

    Anyway can’t hang around reading your shite biggles, I am off banana shooting with my sniper rifle.

  30. bespoke

    Not good at explaining areff but I say it want’s to run it to uninstall. Old stuff used to do it until uniform MO. If you not in a hurry wait until someone better at explaining it to put your mind at ease.

  31. Dr Faustus

    Interesting ABC 612 interview with a US political commentator.

    Obviously, starting with: Trump = baseless treason.
    It’s like the Loyal Toast.

    Then the interesting bit.
    Apparently GOP grandees are now shitting themselves about the post-POTUS Trump capitalising on his popularity with disgusting little people and starting a new, non-swamp Conservative party. A Trump impeachment – leaving the Donald unable to be a 2024 POTUS Candidate (and better, fighting felony charges) – would fix that, fine and dandy.

    McConnell is presently trying to walk both sides of the fence and get a Trump impeachment over the line, but without earning the scorn and hatred of 70 million voters.

    On the other side, Biden’s advisers’ bums are twitching at the prospect of boosting Swamp-hatred by running the US’s first unequivocally political trial.

    Meanwhile, Emperor Xi smiles…

  32. bespoke

    “Make changes to your PC” is the poor English expression typical of IT types.

    Racist! 😁

  33. Old School Conservative

    Thanks areff.
    I’ll give it another go.

  34. Dr Faustus

    Iran Is Assembling Gear Able to Produce Key Nuclear-Weapons Material

    Iran has taken a significant new step toward possible atomic-weapons production, starting work on an assembly line to manufacture a key material used at the core of nuclear warheads, the United Nations atomic agency said in a confidential report Wednesday, raising the stakes in Tehran’s standoff with Washington ahead of President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration.

    The invoice for the next shipment of used US$ bills.

  35. stackja

    Windows 10 doesn’t like any changes.
    Stubborn uninstall use revo.

  36. William Phillips

    jupes
    #3723574, posted on January 14, 2021 at 7:57 am
    Exposing the NSA’s illegal spying on US citizens makes Snowden the greatest patriot since Andrew Jackson.

    Unless you consider fleeing to the US’s two greatest enemies just a smite anti-patriotic.

    I don’t think he had much choice, if he wanted to escape the long arm of the US “justice” system.

  37. will

    John of Mel
    #3723868, posted on January 14, 2021 at 12:05 pm
    Negotiate or I go, I will say.

    My wife had to do a few teeth a year ago. After getting a few quotes from local dentists we bought a ticket to Bali for her.

    I have had dental work done in both Thailand and the Philippines. I am amazed at the low prices.

  38. H B Bear

    I don’t think he had much choice, if he wanted to escape the long arm of the US “justice” system.

    Assange would probably agree with this. Cheaper too.

  39. Struth

    10 republicans vote to impeach Potus.
    It’s not about parties, like here, it is about traitors versus patriots.
    Globalist Socialists (communists) versus free , democratic west.
    And the communists being inside the walls now, is the only difference.
    You can’t set an army against them.
    The people, now, must act.
    There is enough proof.
    The trees of the shrinking forest can no longer justify supporting the axe , just because the axe claims to be made of wood, and therefore to be one of them.
    The proof is indisputable.

  40. H B Bear

    Interesting ABC 612 interview with a US political commentator.

    You can always tell when the regular co-op producers go on their Summer WEB and their replacements don’t know who to call. Always hilarious when they go off reservation mid interview and they try to cut them off.

  41. jupes

    Regarding Jonathon Patton’s “lewd” social media posts and subsequent hospitalisation for “mental health” issues:

    I have a few issues with this stereotypical 21st century scandal.

    Even though I have no idea what Patton posted to the young ladies, I assume that the term “lewd” refers to dick-picks or something of that ilk. Pretty disgusting stuff for sure, but hardly a big deal for those on the receiving end. They could just block him if they are offended.

    I know a few women who have received similar texts from men and that is exactly what they did. Block the dickhead and move on with their lives. Hardly a big deal. My point here is that any ‘victims’ of Patton have not been harmed in any way.

    Still, it is all about perception and virtue signalling at professional sporting organisations, so Patton has to pay for his sins. He can either take responsibility for what he did or he can take the contemporary cowards way out and claim “mental health” issues. Of course, in reality he is as much a victim as Adam Goodes.

    What a time to be alive.

  42. wivenhoe

    I am off banana shooting with my sniper rifle.

    Oh WOW. I finally found out why Bananas bend.

  43. jupes

    I don’t think he had much choice, if he wanted to escape the long arm of the US “justice” system.

    Yes, because fleeing to totalitarian enemies of the US just screams patriotism.

  44. Rex Anger

    @ Jupes-

    As one of those millenyuls, I see nothing wrong with posting Dick Pics…

    …And if you don’t like it, there’s summat wrong with yer! 🤪

  45. H B Bear

    Yes, because fleeing to totalitarian enemies of the US just screams patriotism.

    The real enemy is the US “justice” system and the people who control it.

  46. Leigh Lowe

    Still, it is all about perception and virtue signalling at professional sporting organisations, so Patton has to pay for his sins.

    Jupes.
    Sporting organisations spend a lot of time and money on “respeck for wymminses” stuff and constantly bang on about “player welfare”.
    Here’s the thing.
    If they really gave a shit about player welfare instead of just virtue signaling, they would run their players through what I would call a “defensive social media” course.
    The problem is, that would inevitably involve a segment on conniving attention seeking wannabe sheilas who will try to set you up, either for a cash payday, or to advance their social meeja influencer profile.
    And that subject would be taboo because it would be an admission that not all damsels are hapless victims.

  47. Leigh Lowe

    Rex Anger

    #3723915, posted on January 14, 2021 at 12:51 pm

    @ Jupes-

    As one of those millenyuls, I see nothing wrong with posting Dick Pics…

    Eeeww!
    Rex!
    All that wrinkly skin and protruding veins!
    Disgusting!

  48. H B Bear

    For the record, I have never received a dick pic on my social media. Just how common is it?

  49. Boambee John

    One is a global movement for racial justice aimed at correcting the consequences of hundreds of years of slavery, dispossession and discrimination.

    Perhaps Osman Faruqi could point us to reports of the BLM protests in Africa, China and Moo slim countries? Without the African “big men” to round up the slaves, the trade would have collapsed. While slavery continues in the Moo slim world today, most notably in Libya and Mauritania. The use of Moo slim slaves in China is notorious.

    Until he can do that, BLM is not “world wide”.

  50. Bear Necessities

    Apparently GOP grandees are now shitting themselves about the post-POTUS Trump capitalising on his popularity with disgusting little people and starting a new, non-swamp Conservative party. A Trump impeachment – leaving the Donald unable to be a 2024 POTUS Candidate (and better, fighting felony charges) – would fix that, fine and dandy.

    McConnell is presently trying to walk both sides of the fence and get a Trump impeachment over the line, but without earning the scorn and hatred of 70 million voters.

    It will be a bit hard to get the American public to believe what you are currently doing is in the republic’s best interests when you have been fleecing it for the last 40 years.

  51. Leigh Lowe

    Jupes.
    An example of the sort of education for not too smart blokes.

    You engage in a bit of increasingly ribald chatter with a ladee on line.
    She seems like good fun but also very media-savvy. Even suggests that you should both delete anything naughty in case anyone sees it.
    Sounds sensible.
    Things escalate and you exchange nappy rash photos.
    She reminds you again that you both need to delete it all.
    You dutifully do so.
    She retains hers and selectively edits out all of her egging on, and what is left looks like unsolicited harassment.
    You have nothing to back up your side.
    Ker-ching.

  52. Rex Anger

    For the record, I have never received a dick pic on my social media. Just how common is it?

    Common enough that Hillary Clinton-linked Democrat operative Anthony Weiner did it a few times and ultimately got jailed for his trouble…

  53. Some History

    There are a number of excellent examples of Agent Provocateurs that I’ve seen.

    https://twitter.com/politicalwilli/status/1349083364729360384?s=19

    Look at this series of videos. In the first video, a “crazy” man in a fluffy hat appears from behind the police line, i.e., he’s on the police side. He is either antifa or police. He’s an AP whose goal is to rile up and bait protesters. Notice, too, the camera man – JaydenX (John Sullivan), who is BLM and sympathetic to antifa, is also on the police side of the line while videoing. (In another video, Sullivan is heard shouting “burn the place down”).

    In the third video, JaydenX and fluffy hat man are right on the front line where Ashli Babbitt was killed. After she was shot, fluffy hat man walks behind a number of SWAT members and changes his clothes on the stairs.

    The following video is the moments prior to the Babbitt shooting. Fluffy hat man is given a helmet by his antifa buddy (with long yellow scarf) which he uses to break the glass in the door.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nvqvvsqJ_s

    It’s crooked with police involvement.

    Wonder if the FBI is looking at any of this? Doubt it.

  54. Leigh Lowe

    For the record, I have never received a dick pic on my social media. Just how common is it?

    I haven’t been able to send any since my macro lens broke.

  55. Boambee John

    From Struth’s link at 1228

    In a statement that would be considered comical if not for the seriousness of the situation, the leader of a BLM-affiliated anti-Trump groups was captured on video inside the US Capitol Building engaging in the chaos and in proximity to where Ashli Babbitt was shot dead by US Capitol police.
    John Sullivan, the founder of Utah-based Insurgence USA – a contributing affiliate of the Black Live Matter movement, contends that he traveled to Washington DC on January 6, 2021, to “document” the goings on, saying, “I wanted to be able to tell a part of history.”

    But, but, but, this cannot be. The ostrich (head in bum) assured us that there was no evidence of non-Trumpists being in the Capitol.

  56. Mater

    For the record, I have never received a dick pic on my social media. Just how common is it?

    For you, Bear. I don’t want you to feel left out!

  57. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    hahaha, first time I’ve ever been accused of aspiring to be a Librarian.
    Good to see you so interested in Sinc’s book club, Nick. Nick for Chief Librarian? 🙂

    —–

    Vicki, sorry to hear of your family issues, they really can make you fragile. And dentistry on top of it.

    As P.J. O’Rourke memorably said when confronting claims re the goodness of the good old days vs today:
    ‘I give you modern dentistry’. Sadly, in the 40’s at primary school I suffered antique dentistry. Scarred me for life and probably explains much. 🙂

  58. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Actually, I haven’t checked it, but I think he simply said: ‘I give you one word: dentistry’.

  59. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    lol, Mater. I hesitated but then said to myself there is no NSFW, so I clicked.

  60. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Without the African “big men” to round up the slaves, the trade would have collapsed.

    That’s an inconvenient truth, that’s usually overlooked.

  61. caveman

    Probably been posted but US house of reprobates has voted to impeach Trump.

    Yes, now it’s time to let the kneeling begin.

  62. Leigh Lowe

    Dental implants.
    I cracked a tooth playing footy many years ago, and it eventually gave up last year.
    The implant was no problem under local anaesthetic.
    Truth is, they are drilling bone so no pain anyway.
    The thing to watch if you have a dodgy tooth is infection. It destroys jaw-bone like nothing else and often leaves nothing to attach the metal foundation screw to.
    The worst thing was the temporary plate they gave me which was unbelievably uncomfortable.
    I accidentally broke the tooth off it and decided to super-glue it back together.
    How hard could it be?
    Very hard as it turns out.
    Amazing how much difference a 1 mm misalignment in my repair job made!

  63. 1735099

    This so-called big lie.

    The Big Lie, Lizzie, in case you missed it, is his oft-repeated insistence that he won the election in a landslide.
    He lost the popular vote by over 7 million, and the Electoral College 306 to 232.
    That is what has caused his second impeachment, killed five Americans so far, and split any consensus.
    Numerous court cases, and many recounts and audits have clearly shown this is a lie, but he hasn’t walked it back.
    He is delusional if he believes it, and immoral if he doesn’t.
    He is not fit to hold any kind of power, let alone the nuclear codes.

  64. Rex Amger

    Communists gonna Communist, eh Bob?

    Tell the Left’s Big Lie often enough, and you’ll believe it?

  65. Des Deskperson

    Speaking of Dr Stephen Hagan, here’s a 2010 article from Crikey which includes some interesting stuff about the the new editor:,

    https://www.crikey.com.au/2010/07/08/whats-happening-at-the-national-indigenous-times/

    and in particular his practice of publishing, without attribution, well, propaganda from various Indigenous organisations and interest groups as ‘news’ . Crikey goes on:

    “And it seems that the new spirit of inclusiveness isn’t just restricted to “peak” Aboriginal organisations, with much of the “news” content in issues 202, 203 and 204 consisting of word-for-word reproductions of press releases from various federal and state government agencies, political parties and interest groups.
    The most amusing — and concerning — of the many apparent lapses in the NIT’s approach to journalistic standards in these recent issues is the word-for-word reproduction of the most recent issue of the NIT of this joint presser, issued on June 19, 2010 by federal government indigenous affairs ministers Jenny Macklin and Warren Snowdon. Hagan reproduced that presser on page 7 of that issue under the original header “Improving community safety under the Northern Territory Emergency response”.

    Apparently Hagan thought he hadn’t given FaHCSIA’s spinners enough of a free ride so he ran the same presser — but under the header “Emergency Response improving community safety” on page 15 of the same edition — this time matched with a large photo of Jacklin.

    It is early days for Hagan and his new team at the NIT and Crikey wishes them well — we need strong and independent voices in indigenous affairs journalism — but the early signs are not good.

    Crikey understands that up until about late May this year four young Aboriginal cadets were employed at the NIT in various roles under the Indigenous Cadetship Support (the ICS) scheme operated by the Federal Department of Education Employment and Workplace Relations (DEEWR) and that their employment — and their cadetships — have now been summarily terminated.

    Earlier this week Crikey emailed several questions to Stephen Hagan and NIT’s general manager Beverley Wyner seeking information on the circumstances of Hagan’s appointment as editor and his previous experience as an editor or journalist and whether he would, in light of his employment as a Lecturer at the University of Southern Queensland, be undertaking his editorial duties on a full- or part-time basis.
    Crikey also sought information on the number of journalists currently employed at NIT and the number, if any, of Aboriginal cadets currently employed by NIT under the ICS scheme.

    Despite repeated attempts by email and phone to contact Hagan or Wyner, no response was received from either of them before deadline.”

    Not a good look for Hagan, lazy and sloppy at best. He subsequently took the paper to the FWC for unfair dismissal. The settlement sent the paper into ‘administration’. I’ll look for the FWC determination.

  66. Leigh Lowe

    The only thing about modern dentistry is really the mild discomfort of having lots of stainless steel kit and three fingers in your mouth.
    Pain is a thing of the past.
    I have even been to a dentist who offers a topical anaesthetic gel to rub on the gum so you don’t even feel the needle.
    The only pain comes at the front desk when they take your credit card.

  67. Mater

    Numerous court cases, and many recounts and audits have clearly shown this is a lie, but he hasn’t walked it back.
    He is delusional if he believes it, and immoral if he doesn’t.
    He is not fit to hold any kind of power, let alone the nuclear codes.

    Delusional or Immoral?
    Like a bloke who lies about his father’s service, his own service, and a heap of other things?

    Glass houses, Bob.

  68. Some History

    Hey, Bob… Jackass, you’re the one that keeps parroting the “Big Lie” (that there was no election fraud).

    This is just one example:

    Public Data Shows 432,000 Trump Votes Removed in Pennsylvania Election: Data Scientists

  69. Some History

    1735099
    #3723966, posted on January 14, 2021 at 1:34 pm
    This so-called big lie.
    The Big Lie, Lizzie, in case you missed it, is his oft-repeated insistence that he won the election in a landslide.

    Numerous court cases, and many recounts and audits have clearly shown this is a lie, but he hasn’t walked it back.

    Bob… Jackass, could you tell us how many (and which) of the numerous court cases were open trials that heard/addressed evidence?

  70. 1735099

    Glass houses, Bob.

    False equivalence, old mate.
    Nothing I post has anything to do with what went down in the USA.
    Distraction might work with some of the autists who post here, but it doesn’t cut it in the real world.
    That’s why Trump has been impeached twice.
    The Septics have their faults, but they’re not entirely stupid.

  71. notafan

    Its not a lie if you believe something to be truthful it may well be that the election was won by fraud.

    I consider it a lie to claim that Trump is responsible for the deaths in Washington, three of which were “natural causes’

  72. candy

    Biden the pervert is not fit to hold any kind of power. Whey do Americans have to accept a man who gropes children in a position of power?

    Good to see the Republican Ms Greene going to submit impeachment papers on Biden on January 21
    because of his crooked dealings and his son’s crookedness in the Ukraine and with China.

  73. notafan

    A lie is a lie no matter what country it is told in.

  74. Gab

    It’s been over 50 hours and
    @ProjectLincoln
    still has not responded to the allegations that their founder John Weaver used their group to solicit sex from college-age men. Since that time more have come forward to share their stories and more conversations they had with Weaver.

  75. Mater

    False equivalence, old mate.
    Nothing I post has anything to do with what went down in the USA.

    True.
    You were just entrusted to teach children.
    Horrifying really.

    I’ll take it on board that you think lying is quite acceptable, except if you’re a President.

  76. Leigh Lowe

    Interesting background Des.
    Of course, the portent of doom was actually in the title itself:-
    The National Indigenous Times.
    Is it not disrespectful to the other 299 First People’s Nations for one of them to have the temerity to presume he could speak for all of them?
    I’ll bet there is some truth in that.
    Even though he was just ‘top and tailing’ press releases, as soon as there is a whiff that you are pumping up the case for a pot o’ gold for Nation #225, well Nations #224 and #226 will be all over you like ochre warpaint.

  77. candy

    @ProjectLincoln

    Makes you wonder if there is involvement with even younger boys too.

  78. Leigh Lowe

    Gab at 1:53.
    To be fair to him, what does “college age men” mean?
    If it means 16-17, maybe a bit suss in some jurisdictions.
    If it means 23, none of my business.

  79. feelthebern

    They’re really going to have to thread the needle to get Rick Snyder (former governor of Michigan) without dragging in half of the Lansing political class.
    Jimmy Dore went nuts on Snyder when the media made the big song & dance over him endorsing Biden.
    Jimmy’s promoted the documentary of the criminality in Flint & how everyone knew what was going on.
    The below video shows a snippet on when Obama turned up & broke the people of Flint’s hearts.
    They were expecting a state of emergency to be declared which means FEMA support.
    Instead they got a stunt & a cover up.

  80. feelthebern

    The Obama stunt starts at the 5min mark.

  81. Leigh Lowe

    candy

    #3723988, posted on January 14, 2021 at 1:57 pm

    @ProjectLincoln

    Makes you wonder if there is involvement with even younger boys too.

    Jesus Christ!
    Enough!
    This is precisely the sort of joining-the-dots Seven-Nilligan used against Pell.
    For fuck’s sake, if the best you’ve got against a political opponent is cheap peter-file innuendo, you got nothing.

  82. 1735099

    Can you tell us how many (and which) of the numerous court cases were open trials and heard/addressed evidence?

    Homework for you.
    Google “Electoral fraud court cases”.
    You’ll find most courts classified “evidence” presented as “generalised speculation”.
    Generalised speculation is exactly what Trump has been doing publicly before, during and after the election.
    That’s just the courts (many of which were run by Trump appointees)
    The many audits and recounts found no significant anomalies.
    Again, many of the state electoral processes were conducted by Republican administrations, who have since come under threats and intimidation from Trump and his acolytes.
    It’s third world stuff.

  83. notafan

    Especially if you real purpose is to bring cattallyfiles.com into disrepute, right Grigory?

  84. Geriatric Mayfly

    Pain is a thing of the past.

    But never to be forgotten. Not needles back in antiquity, but those fat re-usable syringes with calibrations printed on the glass under the hefty piston. A length of thick metal ferried the numbing agent to the hollow point, which the dentist himself would hone to cause maximum grief. Looking back, I think the agent itself was a placebo.

  85. Rex Anger

    That’s why Trump has been impeached twice.

    More Communist lies from our resident Communist.

    To have been successfully impeached, one must have actually been convicted in the Senate.

    This did not happen. And will not happen in time.

    This is why Bill Clinton is not described as impeached-Aside from the fact all his champions see him as a Darling of The Cause, so only ever use these words to curse Orangutan Bard…

  86. feelthebern

    The Lincoln Project was the second best piece of grifting I’ve seen in the last couple of years.
    The gold medal was how Stringer Bloomberg got diddled out of $US500mill ($US100mill went straight into the DNC & their buddler’s pockets).

    For those not up on the linger, Stringer was a chap from The Wire, who was stung by the DNC machine in Baltimore.

  87. feelthebern

    Lingo.
    Not linger.

  88. Mater

    Bob,
    I see that you’re no longer denying that you’ve been lying to us, so we are at least some way towards your redemption.

    Small steps.

  89. candy

    Enough!
    This is precisely the sort of joining-the-dots Seven-Nilligan used against Pell.

    Leigh
    Maybe, but it sounds like this fellow has been using his new found fame based on abusing Trump on TV, which appeals to the socialist minded young uni students, to lure young males and the age can be problematical as you say.

  90. will

    1735099
    #3723995, posted on January 14, 2021 at 2:02 pm
    Can you tell us how many (and which) of the numerous court cases were open trials and heard/addressed evidence?

    Homework for you.

    so you come here and vomit propaganda and lies and then expect others to do the actual research for you?

    which they then do to show up your lies, which doesn’t seem to stop your constant deranged troll like lunacy.

    give it up, you need help.

  91. 1735099

    You were just entrusted to teach children.

    Yep.
    Wiser men and women than you (a timid anonymous blogger) gave me that responsibility and I discharged it to the best of my ability.
    I am a real person with a public life and a public record. I am identifiable, and proud to be.
    You, OTOH, are a cluster of anonymous pixels, hiding behind a keyboard, afraid of being identified.
    That says a great deal.
    I reached the top of my profession, and received a number of awards for my work.
    The parents of the kids I taught still make contact (years after my retirement).
    They tell me they are grateful for what I did for their children.
    Your opinion, because you don’t like my politics, is irrelevant.
    Your only response is abuse. You have nothing else.
    I’m still waiting for you to post evidence of any electoral fraud in the 2020 POTUS election, and the Georgia runoffs which have given the democrats control of the senate after Dettol Donny’s interference.
    Go for it…

  92. Rex Anger

    Wiser men and women than you (a timid anonymous blogger) gave me that responsibility and I discharged it to the best of my ability.

    Wot? Like that SLR you discharged thru the roof of your tent cos you did the steps right, but got the procedure wrong?

    Sounds pretty typical gummint to me…

  93. 1735099

    No true supporter of mind could ever endorse political violence.

    So says Dettol Donny after hundreds of people ran riot in the Capitol last week.
    The fact that they were wearing shirts with his name must have been some kind of mass wardrobe malfunction.

  94. Sinclair Davidson

    Many thanks to Cats who provided advice in No.2 daughter’s career choice. She got into the Monash IT and Design course.

    I did explain to her that there was a lot of misogyny etc. in her intended career path, but she replied that it wasn’t a her-problem if boys couldn’t get girlfriends.

  95. Cassie of Sydney

    Mazaltov Sinc.

  96. Sinclair Davidson

    Struth – it was always going to be compulsory.

  97. Rex Anger

    Many thanks to Cats who provided advice in No.2 daughter’s career choice. She got into the Monash IT and Design course.

    I did explain to her that there was a lot of misogyny etc. in her intended career path, but she replied that it wasn’t a her-problem if boys couldn’t get girlfriends.

    Well done to your Doomette!

    Sounds like she’ll get on just fine…

  98. Cassie of Sydney

    And Sinc…..your daughter has a lot of spirit!

  99. will

    1735099
    #3724009, posted on January 14, 2021 at 2:18 pm
    You were just entrusted to teach children.

    Yep.

    I am sure you did your best to churn out ignorant stupid misinformed kids to join the ALP/Greens vote herd.

    made you proud did it?

  100. Rex Anger

    So says Dettol Donny after hundreds of people ran riot in the Capitol last week.
    The fact that they were wearing shirts with his name must have been some kind of mass wardrobe malfunction.

    Some Great Crusader clearly didn’t read up on the Gliewitz Incident before holding forth…

  101. Leigh Lowe

    I did explain to her that there was a lot of misogyny etc. in her intended career path, but she replied that it wasn’t a her-problem if boys couldn’t get girlfriends.

    It might be helpful if she shares some of that wisdom here from time to time.

  102. Dr Faustus

    Good to see the Republican Ms Greene going to submit impeachment papers on Biden on January 21
    because of his crooked dealings and his son’s crookedness in the Ukraine and with China.

    Which will go precisely nowhere; if for no reason other than the chances of proving significant POTUS crookedness after only 24 hours in office is quite small. Other reasons include that Ms Greene can easily be dismissed, having been thoroughly coloured-in as a QAnon nutter.

    But interesting insofar that Congressional impeachment has been raised to the same level of awful solemnity as the dreaded No Confidence Motion.

  103. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From shatterzzz at 2:00 pm:

    “Not sure if this will work but if it does KamelToe with the truth …..

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e0c8fa0886ab4cae04b9cd2ed6622887076f58df34eb1b1d9d6f20a2e2f36b05.gif?w=600&h=210

    On occasion a man sees some amusing stuff here and this one takes the prize for this week I reckon – the life and times and achievements of Our Kamala in just seconds. 😁

  104. Terry Pedersen

    To have been successfully impeached, one must have actually been convicted in the Senate

    Incorrect. Impeachment occurs in the US House of Representatives. Trials for High Crimes and Misdemeanors occur in the US Senate. Soon to be ex-President Trump has been impeached twice.

    And, for the other elderly dreamers: Thanks to Barack Obama, who restored it in January 2013 , lifetime Secret Service protection will be provided to Trump. It cannot be taken away as a result of impeachment in the House or conviction in the Senate.

  105. Dr Faustus

    @ProjectLincoln
    Makes you wonder if there is involvement with even younger boys too.

    Oh dear.

  106. Cassie of Sydney

    Funny how he is so sanctimonious about hundreds of people running riot in the capital last week but has been silent about the thousands of people running riot in cities across America over the last seven months. What a hypocrite.

    As I said earlier this morning….it is only about the politics with him. Some riots are okay with him.

  107. Rex Anger

    Incorrect. Impeachment occurs in the US House of Representatives. Trials for High Crimes and Misdemeanors occur in the US Senate. Soon to be ex-President Trump has been impeached twice.

    Congratulations on moving the goalposts, Grigory.

    Now show me an actual criminal act committed by Orangutan Bastard. Not just an alleh
    ged one. Or a declaration of bankruptcy. Nor one committed by the Bidens…

  108. 1735099

    Some great crusader….

    So Angry Rex thinks the whole deal was a false flag operation.
    Just like the attacks on 9/11, and the Oklahoma bombing.
    But wait….Antifa didn’t exist back then.

  109. Boambee John

    Shot

    1735099
    #3723966, posted on January 14, 2021 at 1:34 pm
    This so-called big lie.
    The Big Lie, Lizzie, in case you missed it, is his oft-repeated insistence that he won the election in a landslide.

    Numerous court cases, and many recounts and audits have clearly shown this is a lie, but he hasn’t walked it back.

    Chaser

    1735099
    #3723979, posted on January 14, 2021 at 1:51 pm
    Glass houses, Bob.

    False equivalence, old mate.
    Nothing I post has anything to do with what went down in the USA.

  110. Rex Anger

    So Angry Rex thinks the whole deal was a false flag operation.
    Just like the attacks on 9/11, and the Oklahoma bombing.
    But wait….Antifa didn’t exist back then.

    Your allegations, shit-flinging and hangups on full display there, Jack Hunt.

    Not mine…

    Superb attempt to shut me down by equating me with your causes’ cause celebrés, though. Pity that your lot is the one engaging in the Fascist playbook…

  111. Leigh Lowe

    Candy dribbling and misquoting again.
    Anyone with solid evidence of peter-filia should ring the cops.
    If not, shut the fuck up.

  112. Leigh Lowe

    As I said earlier this morning….it is only about the politics with him. Some riots are okay with him.

    That is true.
    Mind you, people on the other side of the divide need to guard against the same hypocrisy.
    Both sides of this bunfight believe their cause is just and anything goes.
    Which I reject.
    Both sides.

  113. feelthebern

    Can we please refer to it as the Lincoln Grift?

  114. feelthebern

    How did someone as spectacular as Kellyanne end up with that fat fuck George Conway?

  115. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #3724046, posted on January 14, 2021 at 2:39 pm

    Can we please refer to it as the Lincoln Grift?

    It sure is, ‘bern.
    My beef is that there is plenty of grounds to kick shit out of it without going the full p1zza-gate.

  116. calli

    I did explain to her that there was a lot of misogyny etc. in her intended career path, but she replied that it wasn’t a her-problem if boys couldn’t get girlfriends.

    Lol. Bless her.

  117. Rex Anger

    Both sides of this bunfight believe their cause is just and anything goes.
    Which I reject.
    Both sides.

    Careful with wishing Pox on all the Houses.

    You only just got out of LockDan…

    #Don’tEncourageHim

    #ForAllOurSakes

  118. DrBeauGan

    The lying racist is a hypocrite of the worst kind.

    I want numbers banned for mental health reasons. His and mine, but mainly his because I scroll past him anyway, and only catch the retorts to his insanity.

    I wish everyone would ignore him. I know some of you enjoy smacking him, but that’s too much like mocking the afflicted, or cruelty to dumb animals to appeal to me.

    That miasma you sense is his mental health issues seeping out.

  119. feelthebern

    Pack of GOP grifters, one of them uses it to get into the pants of young men, allegedly.
    As long as they are over the age of 18, who cares.
    It’s not like they were fucking under aged girls in South East Asia.

  120. Rex Anger

    You only just got out of LockDan…

    And all Sandgroperstan is back into it… 🙄

    #Don’tFenceMeIn

  121. Mater

    I am a real person with a public life and a public record. I am identifiable, and proud to be.
    You, OTOH, are a cluster of anonymous pixels, hiding behind a keyboard, afraid of being identified.

    This “cluster of anonymous pixels” has proven you, beyond all doubt, to be a serial liar…using nothing more than your own words, on this blog, and your own.

    Pretty impressive hey?

    P.S. Being a proven liar (especially when your real identity is known) is nothing to be proud of. If you had a modicum of shame, you’d crawl back under your rock.

  122. feelthebern

    What I’m most looking forward to is the reinstatement of:
    Comey;
    McCabe;
    Strzok.

    I wonder if McCabe will give back the dosh he got via the GoFundMe, even though his pension would have been enormous.

  123. feelthebern

    & what about Robert Mueller.
    Surely he can come back to the trough.

  124. jo

    Sinclair Davidson
    #3724013, posted on January 14, 2021 at 2:22 pm

    Many thanks to Cats who provided advice in No.2 daughter’s career choice. She got into the Monash IT and Design course.

    I did explain to her that there was a lot of misogyny etc. in her intended career path, but she replied that it wasn’t a her-problem if boys couldn’t get girlfriends.

    She’s been raised well.

  125. WDYSIA

    Snapchat has banned Trump permanently.

  126. H B Bear

    I did explain to her that there was a lot of misogyny etc. in her intended career path, but she replied that it wasn’t a her-problem if boys couldn’t get girlfriends

    Most IT guys wouldn’t see that as a problem.

  127. Mark A/Cassie:
    On Tolerance: Too often a form of hypertolerance is affected – “I am soooo tolerant, I can tolerate intolerance.” – it is instead used to conceal a lack of intellectual courage, a refusal to condemn that which should be condemned.

  128. Roger

    On Tolerance: Too often a form of hypertolerance is affected – “I am soooo tolerant, I can tolerate intolerance.” – it is instead used to conceal a lack of intellectual courage, a refusal to condemn that which should be condemned.

    Moral cowardice, in other words.

  129. 1735099

    Being a proven liar

    You’re deflecting again.
    The “proven liar” is the current president of the United States.
    You can attempt to distract from that sad and salient fact as often as you like, but it won’t alter the reality.
    Again, is Trump’s claim that he “won in a landslide” credible or not?
    Answer “yes” or “no” without attempting another deflection.

  130. Roger

    Impeachment occurs in the US House of Representatives. Trials for High Crimes and Misdemeanors occur in the US Senate. Soon to be ex-President Trump has been impeached twice.

    Incorrect. The House passes articles of impeachment, the Senate then acts as a trial court and decides upon a verdict. The Senate acquitted Trump in 2020 and will most likely do so again. To maintain that anything less than this two part process constitutes impeachment is disingenuous.

  131. H B Bear

    Gargooglery QC MD wrong again? I find that hard to believe.

  132. egg_

    Gargooglery QC MD wrong again?

    The GrigSockDrawer is the Master of doubling-down.

  133. Mater

    Again, is Trump’s claim that he “won in a landslide” credible or not?
    Answer “yes” or “no” without attempting another deflection.

    I don’t know, but a complete audit of the key states (including signature checks, etc) would prove it one way or another.

    For the sake of unity (and possibly the future of the Republic) why haven’t the Democrats suggested this as part of the “healing” process? Isn’t a given that they won by 7 million votes?

    It’s not happening, because the election was fucked with, and they have no intention of risking exposure.
    I saw Trump votes being deducted live on TV during the election. There is no such thing as a negative vote; the count only goes one way.

    Dodgy shit definitely happened. The extent of this shit can only be exposed by a comprehensive, open and transparent audit. You can say that such a measure is unprecedented, but so are the lacklustre rules which were introduced (under the pretence of COVID) for this election.

    If the shoe was on the other foot, I know what position you’d be taking in this argument. The truth is, Bob, like so many others, you value the idea of removing Hitler Trump more than you value a free and fair election. You see it as a necessary evil.
    It’ll come back to bite you, and everyone else. It’s a VERY slippery slope.

  134. 1735099

    I wouldn’t entirely dismiss the notion that there might be enough Republican senators to vote to impeach Trump once it gets to the senate, whenever that is.
    Quite a few are beginning six year terms.
    Six years is a long time in US politics, and there are plenty in the GOP who would love to see the back of their feral president forever.
    More of a concern, especially for those senators with young families, is the very real threat of violence.
    Already, GOP congressmen and women who voted for impeachment have received death threats, including photographs of their homes.
    Some have moved house until after the inauguration on advice from security.

  135. Dr Faustus

    Snapchat has banned Trump permanently.

    Many many more bannings to come. The woke and the worried alike will compete to find things to ban the Orangeutan from.
    There will be Trump Disinvitation cards: He’s not invited to my birthday party…

    At the end of the day, POTUS Trump will be buried in an unmarked grave at a crossroads.

    #literallyhitlerandpolpotslovechild

  136. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Oh. You call that, demonstrated election fraud including shonky voting machines, a ‘big lie’, Numbers? Is that all you’ve got? lol

    On Dentistry – Vicki, I had all four done! Hairy drove me in and the dentist met me at the door. No escape. But he was so kindly, asking the ages of all of my grandchildren and then setting out heaps of needles. I knew immediately he had re-read his case notes, recalled studying dental history in Dentistry 202, saw my references to antique brutality, and intended to humor the madwoman by shutting her up with Novocaine or whatever they use these days. Two up, two down, same side, still can’t speak, numbing swabs and 4 injections but no pain; he could have his dental way with me and he did.

  137. Woolfe

    Mater this was by design not a flaw.

  138. Dr Faustus

    I wouldn’t entirely dismiss the notion that there might be enough Republican senators to vote to impeach Trump once it gets to the senate, whenever that is.

    Correct.

    Six years is a long time in US politics, and there are plenty in the GOP who would love to see the back of their feral president forever.

    Correct. Out of office, out of value…

    More of a concern, especially for those senators with young families, is the very real threat of violence.

    Correct. Open season on anybody showing any support for deplatformed Literally Hitler.

  139. Boambee John

    Already, GOP congressmen and women who voted for impeachment have received death threats, including photographs of their homes.

    Remind us (with links) of your expressions of concern when the same happened to various Republicans during the last four years. Also when actual mobs turned up outside some homes.

    Then there were the people harassed in public places, such as restaurants.

  140. Some History

    Trump is close to nearly Hitler. 🙂

  141. Frank

    With regards to the talk of tooth implants, prices and so on, the home dentistry section of YouTube is always good for a laugh.

    Youtube: search_query=home+dentistry+gone+wrong.

  142. Terry Pedersen

    Impeachment

    The Constitution gives the House of Representatives the sole power to impeach an official, and it makes the Senate the sole court for impeachment trials.

    Soon to be ex-President Trump has been impeached twice.

  143. Terry Pedersen

    It’s unequivocal.

    The United States Constitution provides that the House of Representatives “shall have the sole Power of Impeachment”

    Read it and weep.

  144. 1735099

    For the sake of unity

    There needs to be a comprehensive audit, for sure, but the divisions in the country, which Trump exploited to gain power in the first place, would make that difficult. History shows that mining grievances frequently has unintended consequences.
    Given our strong relationship with the Yanks, perhaps the AEC, through diplomatic channels, should offer to conduct an enquiry, something like what followed the GFC. I doubt any institution in the US could do it in the current poisonous climate. It certainly couldn’t be conducted by government.
    God knows, our processes, warts and all, are light years ahead of the shitshow which passes for electoral process in the US right now. Looking at the US electoral system would open a can of worms. Historic voter suppression, gerrymandering by both sides, and half-arsed regulation are all evident.
    The irony, of course, is that the runoff system introduced in Georgia (and other states with significant African-American minorities) to defeat minorities voting in blocks, actually helped win the two state senate seats for the Democrats.
    Trump’s “landslide” claims can be dismissed as hyperbole, but some of his followers literally believe them. They seem to lack any capacity to understand nuance. Their thought processes resemble yours, and many who post here. It’s a type of contagious hysteria, transmitted online, often on sites like these. De-platforming some of the transmission of misinformation may help.
    The notion that one anomaly (like the woman who was charged in Texas) makes the whole process fraudulent is childish.
    It resembles believing that one (say) Toyota was a lemon means very Toyota off the assembly line is a lemon. In the old days it was called “the dark whisper”. The Salem witch trials spring to mind.
    They didn’t have the dark webb in those days – probably a blessing.

  145. dopey

    Plenty of dentists in the Upper Northern Beaches. No need for needles up there, people are bred tough up there in the Upper Northern Beaches.

  146. 1735099

    Demonstrated election fraud including shonky voting machines

    Explain how the alleged fraud was demonstrated.
    Explain how the voting machines (actually counting machines – machines don’t get to vote, even in the USA) worked to alter the results, how the fraud was set up, and who was responsible. Hugo Chavez is not guilty, on account of the fact that he’s actually dead.

  147. Mater

    The truth is, Bob, like so many others, you value the idea of removing Hitler Trump more than you value a free and fair election. You see it as a necessary evil.

    This is the very same reason why you think it’s acceptable to lie to us here on the Cat.
    Pushing your political agenda (even if the basis of your argument is a fallacy) is more important than the absolute truth. The ends justify the means. When caught out, you accuse the opponent of “literalism”, but that is just a well versed defensive mechanism, an immediate action drill, if you like.

    The idea of perverting an election “for the greater good” is not much different to the concept of the “Dictatorship of the proletariat”; a necessary evil to get to utopian ends. An ugly transition period between Capitalism and Socialism; “Hold your nose, we’ll get through it. Utopia beckons!”

    Socialists have been justifying and excusing evil for decades, under this pretence. You’re not special, nor are you difficult to understand. Smarter people than you have done likewise.

  148. H B Bear

    Read it and weep.

    That applies to anything you have Gargoogleried.

  149. miltonf

    The attitude of leftists towards Donald Trump, who actually sought to and succeeded in improving the lives of middle and low income Americans- irrespective of skin colour, proves the truth of the statement-
    Much that passes as idealism is disguised hatred or disguised love of power.

  150. candy

    The Democrats have no reason to fear misinformation if they won legit.

    Instead it’s all Section 25 Trump saying he is insane, impeachment, shutdown all media that may have someone on saying they like Trump, ban Trump from social media forever, stop him getting any other job,
    get his family in jail and get employers to sack any Trump supporting employees.

    The hallmarks of guilt and dishonesty.

  151. miltonf

    Yes the democratic party is the evil party. The party of slavery, segregation and the KKK.

  152. I am sure you did your best to churn out ignorant stupid misinformed kids to join the ALP/Greens vote herd.

    I’d be chuffed if any of the kids I taught achieved a level of independence sufficient for them to become involved enough in community life to join any political party and participate in the political process.
    I have, on one or two, occasions, met ex-students voting at my local booth.
    Once, a few years ago, I chatted with one young man on the way out.
    He told me who he voted for and why.
    It wasn’t the person I’d supported, but his grasp of the process and his expressed reasons for his decision were impressive.

  153. miltonf

    The more I read about LBJ the more I understand what a vile old grub he was.

  154. Cassie of Sydney

    I see the racist is using the site as his personal toilet.

  155. Old School Conservative

    More evidence that the elites are ‘aving a larf at our expense:

    American tennis player Tennys Sandgren was allowed onto a chartered flight into Australia ahead of the Australian Open, despite recording two COVID positive test results.
    But the player said he only tested positive because he had the virus eight weeks ago during Thanksgiving.
    The Australian Open defended the move to allow Mr Sandgren into the country and said in a statement he may have returned a positive result because he was still shedding the virus.

    There wouldn’t be a single Australian citizen who has been given this level of latitude.
    Quite the opposite – you have Chinese Flu, we persecute you.
    Bastards.

  156. Makka

    Much that passes as idealism is disguised hatred or disguised love of power.

    milt,
    The worse part of this whole sorry episode is that the above applies more so to the GOP, who in general have undermined and betrayed Trump from the very start and now continue, with viciousness and cowardice. The GOPe cannot stand Trump because of his hold over his voting base. I hope Trump encourages them to walk away from the GOP as they , along with the Dems, have betrayed the working class of the US and don’t deserve any support from them.

  157. Makka

    Once, a few years ago, I chatted with one young man on the way out.
    He told me who he voted for and why.

    More shit that never happened.

  158. feelthebern

    But the player said he only tested positive because he had the virus eight weeks ago during Thanksgiving.

    A PCR test cycled 40 times will do that !

  159. Rex Anger

    American tennis player Tennys Sandgren was allowed onto a chartered flight into Australia ahead of the Australian Open, despite recording two COVID positive test results.

    Always knew that international ‘profeshunol’ tennis scheme was a bloody racquet…

  160. feelthebern

    Ahhh AUSTRAC.
    They can count all the way up to potato.

  161. Old School Conservative

    profeshunol’ tennis scheme was a bloody racquet…

    Well if that’s the base line for your humour, we’re in for a long night.
    Just a gut feeling (one for boomers only).

  162. feelthebern

    Breaking news.
    A woman has been killed at a Westfield in Sydney.
    Hit by a 4WD.
    Brad Hazzard has announced that 4WD’s will now be banned.
    At his press conference, he said “Just drive a bloody sedan”.

  163. This is the very same reason why you think it’s acceptable to lie to us here on the Cat.

    This is a forum I believe; a site to express opinion.

    Disagreeing with an opinion is not “lying”.

    Pushing your political agenda (even if the basis of your argument is a fallacy) is more important than the absolute truth.

    Post an example of a fallacious argument I made that you claim is a “lie”. Remember the difference between a lie and an opinion.

    The idea of perverting an election “for the greater good”

    Is exactly what Trump has attempted. He began setting this Big Lie up from the moment he won the GOP nomination. Remember his many statements before the 2016 poll that he would not accept the outcome because it would be fraudulent should he lose?
    He won the Electoral College, but lost the popular vote.
    The strategy earned so much traction, that he repeated it, with extra emphasis, second time around. He is the first and only presidential candidate ever to do this in the USA. Previously, it was a strategy used only by third world dictators.

    is not much different to the concept of the “Dictatorship of the proletariat”; a necessary evil to get to utopian ends. An ugly transition period between Capitalism and Socialism; “Hold your nose, we’ll get through it. Utopia beckons!”

    See above. If you believe some of what appears here, he had already achieved utopia. The US Bureau of Statistics has a different interpretation.

    Socialists have been justifying and excusing evil for decades, under this pretence. You’re not special, nor are you difficult to understand. Smarter people than you have done likewise.

    Somehow or other, “Socialism” (a very versatile label on this site) always gets a mention.
    It resembles an attempt to achieve brownie points.
    You get double points if you use “evil”, and a mention of “Communism” gets triple.
    If you can combine the three in one post, that’s ten points.

    It’s a keyboard game – Catallaxy Scrabble..

  164. Mater

    This is a forum I believe; a site to express opinion.
    Disagreeing with an opinion is not “lying”.

    Please put an asterisk beside the “opinions”:

    My father enlisted in the RAAF whrn he heard to news of the Darwin bombing. He served in PNG from 1942 until 1946.

    My father enlisted in the RAAF ten days after Darwin was bombed.

    Dad enlisted one day after the news of the Japanese raids on Darwin came through.

    My section had two Murris, both conscripts.

    In NSW the term is sectioned. (Section 4C5 of the Mental Health Act, 2007)

    I have never told a lie on this blog.

    I have never darkened the door of an RSL since 1971…

    They conscripted half-blind Nashos to serve in infantry battalions until one was killed in a mine explosion which also killed two other diggers.

    He called John McCain a “loser” because he was captured in a war Trump declined to attend.

    We did the same thing when we visited the Chu Chi tunnels in Vietnam. AFAIK there is no second amendment there.

    We would fairly frequently go on TAOR patrols around Nui Dat.

    Trump, the alleged president, has an obesity problem, and was deferred from service in Vietnam 5 times for heel spurs, although he can’t recall which heel.

    I don’t know about you, but the AEC posted ID details to be presented when I voted both in the last state and federal elections.

    I was a replacement in Q platoon for a digger who was RTA’d when his lower leg was mangled by an AD from the soldier behind him.

    Or put another way, 91.3% (48.2% + 43.1%) didn’t vote for the incumbent.

  165. Delta A

    The Australian Open defended the move to allow Mr Sandgren into the country and said in a statement he may have returned a positive result because he was still shedding the virus.

    In the meantime, Victorians are stranded in other states, unable to return home until they have a permit. At the moment, it’s almost impossible to get a permit, as my niece and her family discovered, after they took a brief holiday in Qld when given the go ahead by Dictator Dan.

    Unfortunately for them, their arrival in Vic won’t generate the same income as the Australian Open.

  166. Rex Anger


    This is a forum I believe; a site to express opinion.

    Disagreeing with an opinion is not “lying”.

    Excellent. We disagree with your ‘opinion’ that D9nald Trump is the devil incarbate because he is a Class Enemy, as defined by your tribal Controllers, the Democrat Party and the ABC.

    We also disagree with your opinions about what said Democrat Party has done and the lies told to justify it. And your incessant attempts to discredit all the evidence and proofs of said actions.

    You get double points if you use “evil”, and a mention of “Communism” gets triple.
    If you can combine the three in one post, that’s ten points.

    As in, you’re a moronic Communist bastard, Bobby boy, whose incessant attempts to defend and rationalise the evils Socialism has wrought and wreaks daily, are at best unappreciated and at worst, hated?

    I win. You’re still a stooge. Bob Menzies still got the better of you. And for all your complaints, time-wasting, projectionisting, blanket-folding and tent-murdering, you helped to make Vietnam and South East Asia a better and less Communist place. As confessed by the Soviets themselves.

  167. miltonf

    Agree re GOP Makka- like the LNP here.

  168. Bruce of Newcastle

    LOL, six months is a long time in politics. (via Instapundit)

  169. miltonf

    Despicable is not a strong enough word for Kemp.

  170. Cassie of Sydney

    “The worse part of this whole sorry episode is that the above applies more so to the GOP, who in general have undermined and betrayed Trump from the very start and now continue, with viciousness and cowardice. The GOPe cannot stand Trump because of his hold over his voting base. I hope Trump encourages them to walk away from the GOP as they , along with the Dems, have betrayed the working class of the US and don’t deserve any support from them.”

    Well said Makka. I suspect we’ll see the GOP split….especially if they vote for impeachment in the senate.

    The Grand Old Party, the party of Lincoln….sad.

  171. miltonf

    I don’t think the GOP liked Reagan or Nixon much either.

  172. Cassie of Sydney

    David Wood….

  173. Bruce of Newcastle

    Disagreeing with an opinion is not “lying”.

    LOL, we own your head Numbers. The Cat has eaten your brain!

    Disagreeing takes up a lot of brain real estate (MedXpress 13 Jan, via Instapundit)

  174. BrettW

    If it is ok with Hazzard I prefer to wait for the vaccine !

    “Brad Hazzard has announced that 4WD’s will now be banned.
    At his press conference, he said “Just drive a bloody sedan”.

  175. Top Ender

    Go woke go broke! (with taxpayers’ money)

    A middle-aged father has won a £7,500 payout in an age and sex discrimination case after being rejected for an NHS job because he wouldn’t fit in with the ‘millennial’ women who already worked at the trust.

    Despite being the best-performing candidate in an interview and scoring highest on all the tests, Neil McClements, 50, was rejected for a project manager post after potential colleagues at Guy’s and St Thomas’ NHS trust in London were consulted on his application.

    A hearing was told they thought the father-of-two was ‘nothing like’ the young woman he would be replacing and they felt he wouldn’t fit in.

    So, a much younger female candidate in her 20s was selected instead, even though she had performed less well in her interview.

    The role – which paid around £40,000 a year – involved helping the health service adapt to new technology more quickly.

    Members of the team were predominantly female and aged between 30 and 32, with one doctor describing herself as a millennial on social media. Others were known to support social justice causes including feminism and gender equality.

    Compared to the other candidates, Mr McClements achieved the highest scores from the combined panel, which included Dr Charlotte Lee, who he would report to, and Jenny Thomas, programme director.

    When Mr McClements was called to be informed he had not been successful, he was told it was because Dr Lee, his would-be-boss, felt uncomfortable giving instructions to someone who had an 11-year-old daughter.

    She also told him: ‘Better to employ someone at an early stage of their career as they would then progress to develop their career over a longer period elsewhere in the NHS.’

    More at the Daily Mail

  176. Cassie of Sydney

    “This is a forum I believe; a site to express opinion.”

    The racist isn’t here to opine or discuss….he’s here to dictate.

    Ever noticed how…not once…not ever…has the racist ever admitted to being wrong about anything…despite the fact that everyday here he’s caught out for his lies and despite the fact that everyday he posts crap where he’s constantly rebuked and corrected.

    Being on a forum where ninety-eight percent of the other commentators dislike, detest or loathe him and yet he persists posting his garbage provides a clue to his character…..he’s a narcissist….I can’t imagine him having many, if any, friends.

  177. feelthebern

    I don’t think the GOP liked Reagan or Nixon much either.

    Nixon was the GOP.

  178. Terry Pedersen

    So (medical term used to begin a statement), stunned silence from the doubting Thomases who now realise that the soon to be ex-President has in fact been impeached twice, in the one and only term he will ever have.

  179. calli

    Ever noticed how…not once…not ever…has the racist ever admitted to being wrong about anything

    Some of us are wrong with motonous regularity.

    I confess. It’s a Superpower. 😀

  180. calli

    Speaking of Superpowers, it’s amazing how people can be here all day long.

    Guys! Arky was right. There are other things to do.

  181. Top Ender

    Indigenous people ‘should have been’ consulted on new C00n cheese name
    Carolyn Webb

    A man who pushed for 21 years to have C00n cheese renamed, saying the label was racist, is disappointed Indigenous people weren’t consulted about the product’s new name, Cheer.

    Author and anti-racism activist Stephen Hagan said he was glad and relieved that the cheese’s manufacturer had announced the name change on Wednesday, to take effect in July, as he would no longer have to see the word “C00n” – a derogatory term for a black person – every time he went to the supermarket.

    Dr Hagan is not sure what the new name, Cheer, stands for. “I would have liked it to be something a bit more inclusive of First Nations people,” he said. “We weren’t even consulted on names. We would like to have contributed.”

    Cam Bruce, the commercial director of C00n’s owners, Saputo Dairy Australia, said consumer research had helped decide the name, which is meant to signify happiness.

    Dr Hagan is pursuing legal damages of $2.1 million for what he says has been 21 years of corporations undermining his claims that the cheese brand was not named after American cheesemaker Edward William C00n.

    Dr Hagan argues that C00n cheese instead started in Australia with Kraft’s Red C00n cheese in 1931, which used a different method to Mr C00n’s. Mr C00n patented a fast ripening process using high temperature and humidity that didn’t kill all bacteria. Kraft’s pasteurisation process killed all bacteria and lasted much longer in storage.

    Dr Hagan believes C00n was instead named after the racial slur.

    In announcing the new name on Wednesday, Lino A. Saputo, the Canadian chair and chief executive officer of Saputo Dairy Australia’s parent company Saputo Inc., said his company wanted to align with current attitudes and perspectives.

    “Treating people with respect and without discrimination is one of our basic principles and it is imperative that we continue to uphold this in everything we do,” Mr Saputo said.

    “Our decision to change the name of Australia’s much-loved cheese reinforces this commitment to build a culture of acceptance, inclusion and respect where everyone feels a sense of belonging.”

    Dr Hagan, a Kullilli man now based in Darwin, said he was offended each time he saw a block of C00n.

    In the early 1990s, he wrote to dairy farmers outlining his concerns, “and they wouldn’t even respond”. In 1999, he complained to the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission, who dismissed it.

    Dr Hagan led the successful campaign to have the name, ES “N—-r” Brown, taken off a rugby grandstand in Toowoomba, and to have golliwogs removed from a chemist chain’s shelves.

    He is now lobbying to have three racist terms deleted from Scrabble’s vocabulary: abo, C00n and boong.

    “If you normalise those words, you’re really normalising bigotry,” he said.

    ‘If you normalise those words, you’re really normalising bigotry.’

    He said corporations had a responsibility to respect the whole community. “They’re not living in a white Australia. There’s a lot of different nationalities around now.”

    RMIT University associate professor of marketing Con Stavros said Saputo had carefully separated the announcement of the decision to discard the C00n name last July from the new name’s unveiling this week to draw consumers to the new brand and to move forward.

    Dr Stavros said the company might have reached a “tipping point” in listening to consumer concerns.

    However, Cheer being a short word and starting with a C, like C00n, and having a similar font and packaging, could help retain customer loyalty. “You want to make the change as subtle as you possibly can,” Dr Stavros said.

    The Age – can’t link because the c00n word is in the URL

  182. Top Ender

    Indigenous people ‘should have been’ consulted on new C00n cheese name
    Carolyn Webb

    A man who pushed for 21 years to have C00n cheese renamed, saying the label was racist, is disappointed Indigenous people weren’t consulted about the product’s new name, Cheer.

    Author and anti-racism activist Stephen Hagan said he was glad and relieved that the cheese’s manufacturer had announced the name change on Wednesday, to take effect in July, as he would no longer have to see the word “C00n” – a derogatory term for a black person – every time he went to the supermarket.

    Dr Hagan is not sure what the new name, Cheer, stands for. “I would have liked it to be something a bit more inclusive of First Nations people,” he said. “We weren’t even consulted on names. We would like to have contributed.”

    Cam Bruce, the commercial director of C00n’s owners, Saputo Dairy Australia, said consumer research had helped decide the name, which is meant to signify happiness.

    Dr Hagan is pursuing legal damages of $2.1 million for what he says has been 21 years of corporations undermining his claims that the cheese brand was not named after American cheesemaker Edward William C00n.

    Dr Hagan argues that C00n cheese instead started in Australia with Kraft’s Red C00n cheese in 1931, which used a different method to Mr C00n’s. Mr C00n patented a fast ripening process using high temperature and humidity that didn’t kill all bacteria. Kraft’s pasteurisation process killed all bacteria and lasted much longer in storage.

    Dr Hagan believes C00n was instead named after the racial slur.

    In announcing the new name on Wednesday, Lino A. Saputo, the Canadian chair and chief executive officer of Saputo Dairy Australia’s parent company Saputo Inc., said his company wanted to align with current attitudes and perspectives.

    “Treating people with respect and without discrimination is one of our basic principles and it is imperative that we continue to uphold this in everything we do,” Mr Saputo said.

    “Our decision to change the name of Australia’s much-loved cheese reinforces this commitment to build a culture of acceptance, inclusion and respect where everyone feels a sense of belonging.”

    Dr Hagan, a Kullilli man now based in Darwin, said he was offended each time he saw a block of C00n.

    In the early 1990s, he wrote to dairy farmers outlining his concerns, “and they wouldn’t even respond”. In 1999, he complained to the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission, who dismissed it.

    Dr Hagan led the successful campaign to have the name, ES “N—-r” Brown, taken off a rugby grandstand in Toowoomba, and to have golliw0gs removed from a chemist chain’s shelves.

    He is now lobbying to have three racist terms deleted from Scrabble’s vocabulary: abo, C00n and boong.

    “If you normalise those words, you’re really normalising bigotry,” he said.

    ‘If you normalise those words, you’re really normalising bigotry.’

    He said corporations had a responsibility to respect the whole community. “They’re not living in a white Australia. There’s a lot of different nationalities around now.”

    RMIT University associate professor of marketing Con Stavros said Saputo had carefully separated the announcement of the decision to discard the C00n name last July from the new name’s unveiling this week to draw consumers to the new brand and to move forward.

    Dr Stavros said the company might have reached a “tipping point” in listening to consumer concerns.

    However, Cheer being a short word and starting with a C, like C00n, and having a similar font and packaging, could help retain customer loyalty. “You want to make the change as subtle as you possibly can,” Dr Stavros said.

    The Age – can’t link because the c00n word is in the URL

  183. Delta A

    21 degrees max here today. 19 max predicted tomorrow. Then follows a week of 20’s.

    Viva la Nina.

  184. calli

    Dr Hagan, a Kullilli man now based in Darwin, said he was offended each time he saw a block of C00n.

    Yikes! C00naphobia!

    Isn’t he being waaaacist?

  185. calli

    I feel the same way about White Castello.

    The horror!

  186. Cassie of Sydney

    “Dr Hagan is pursuing legal damages of $2.1 million for what he says has been 21 years of corporations undermining his claims that the cheese brand was not named after American cheesemaker Edward William C00n.”

    Hagan is a grifter.

  187. Delta A

    I feel the same way about White Castello.

    Yes!

    I can’t go fishing any more because I might catch another 30cm whiting.

    Oh, the racism!

  188. Cassie of Sydney

    “Some of us are wrong with motonous regularity.”

    I’m not.

  189. DrBeauGan

    I feel the same way about White Castello.

    The big issue is, should we ban brown chocolate for being brown, or white chocolate? Or both to be on the safe side?

  190. Bruce of Newcastle

    Maybe someone could ask Bruce Pascoe what the first peoples called Cοοn 40,000 years ago.

  191. Roger

    RMIT University associate professor of marketing Con Stavros…

    We now have professors of marketing.

    The decline of Western civilisation is irreversible.

  192. H B Bear

    However, Cheer being a short word and starting with a C …

    Any other short words beginning with a C you stupid c…t?

  193. H B Bear

    Wait till a smurf complains about blue Castello.

  194. Top Ender

    News.com is running a poll on the Cheer cheese saga. Seems Aussies think it’s crap:

    What do you think of C00n’s rebrand to Cheer Cheese?

    I like it! It’s cheerful 5%

    It’s good they changed from C00n, but Cheer is an odd choice 11%

    It’s been C00n for 80 years, and should’ve stayed that way 84%

    47,321 Voters

    Vote here, but you’ll need to copy the URL and change the two zeroes to two “o” letters:

    https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/retail/c00n-cheese-rebrand-campaigner-says-he-has-copped-abuse-from-australian-rednecks/news-story/218bba51d20775f06238ba706ef034dc

  195. Cassie of Sydney

    “DrBeauGan
    #3724232, posted on January 14, 2021 at 6:13 pm
    I feel the same way about White Castello.

    The big issue is, should we ban brown chocolate for being brown, or white chocolate? Or both to be on the safe side?”

    I’m reminded of the classic Seinfeld episode about the black and white cookie.

  196. H B Bear

    Relax Roger it’s only RMIT.

  197. Nick

    American tennis player Tennys Sandgren was allowed onto a chartered flight into Australia ahead of the Australian Open, despite recording two COVID positive test results.

    Right. So uninflected Victorians are banned from entering the State, but an infected foreigner is allowed in.ok.

  198. Roger

    Relax Roger it’s only RMIT.

    Isn’t that where Sinc teaches?

  199. H B Bear

    Dr Hagan, a Kullilli man now based in Darwin, said he was offended each time he saw a block of C00n.

    Being a Professional Aboriginal is a 24/7 kind of job. There is no down time – even on walkabout.

  200. calli

    Thing is, I understand the upset about the name. It is pejorative, regardless of its provenance.

    But they can’t leave it at that. They have to add more outrage because a capitulation is never enough. These types are insatiable to the point of ridiculousness. The nub of it is simple – they hate white people. Not just the white people that took over their country, but those of us who remain, all these generations later.

    Why don’t they just come clean and say it?

  201. Some History

    RMIT University associate professor of marketing Con Stavros…

    He used to work with Kojak.

    “Who loves ya, baby”

  202. Some History

    Kojak ”Who loves ya, baby”

  203. calli

    Surrender!

    And then we’ll make you surrender some more!

    You’ll never stop surrendering. That’s the way we like it. Oh, and that stuff you worked a lifetime to build? We’ll have that too. You didn’t really build that.

  204. feelthebern

    FMD.
    Have people heard the compilation of Joe Biden saying the n-word?
    I am without speech.

  205. Roger

    But they can’t leave it at that. They have to add more outrage because a capitulation is never enough. These types are insatiable to the point of ridiculousness.

    I believe it goes back to the old indigenous game of marngrook, calli, a forerunner of Australian Rules, where the goal posts could be shifted after the kicker had taken his punt.

  206. H B Bear

    Isn’t that where Sinc teaches?

    Ummm. I dunno.

  207. DrBeauGan

    The word c00n applied to a human being might be pejorative. Assuming someone with brown skin would be upset by it is a step further. I’m not upset if anyone uses racial slurs at me, I laugh at them.

    The word is not pejorative when applied to cheese. It just isn’t.

    There’s something cheap and nasty about taking offence on behalf of others.

  208. Struth

    Anywaaaaaaay….these two cheers went fishing…..

  209. Rafiki

    Terry Pedersen
    You are correct as far as you go. Being impeached is like being committed for trial. At most, it means that someone thinks that there are reasonable grounds to find on a trial that the accused has committed a crime (or, in Trump’s case he has committed some other kind of behaviour as defined in their Constitution). But it is not a finding to this effect. So far, Trump has an unblemished record so as impeachable offences and actions are concerned, and it is very likely he will remain so. (I should add that the fact that a number of House of Reps people think there is a reasonable case, or that he is guilty, is no evidence of guilt.)

  210. MatrixTransform

    What do you think of C00n’s rebrand to Cheer Cheese?

    I think they should call it Cheese Cheese

  211. Struth

    Oh I say, old Cheese, how are you today?

    Are the English now offended?

  212. Dave in Marybrook

    Bern-
    how do we access it?

  213. Bruce of Newcastle

    News.com is running a poll on the Cheer cheese saga

    This comment below the story was glorious:

    John 3 hours ago
    Are there any adults employed at this website? Who wrote the home page headline calling the perpetually offended Hagan, “Cοοn campaigner?”

    Nadine STAFF 3 hours ago
    Thanks for the spot. Changing now

    Yep, news.com kiddies actually called Hagan that in their headline. Gold!

  214. C00n is one thing.
    Does anyone know how the term “boong” originated?

  215. calli

    There’s something cheap and nasty about taking offence on behalf of others.

    I was talking about the word.

    As for the confected outrage…it’s a nice little earner.

  216. Roger

    The word is not pejorative when applied to cheese. It just isn’t.

    No, it isn’t; in fact it refers to Dr Edward C00n, the inventor of the patented “c00ning” process which accelerated the maturation process, a distinct competitive advantage back in the day, I would have imagined.
    C00n is a surnbame of Scottish origin.

  217. calli

    Odd thing is, I’ve never used any of those words about aborigines. I haven’t heard those words in any social setting for decades.

    Maybe it’s the company I keep.

  218. Dr Faustus

    Explain how the voting machines (actually counting machines – machines don’t get to vote, even in the USA) worked to alter the results, how the fraud was set up, and who was responsible.

    This is a useful example of the type of argument now being widely used to hush discussion about the conduct of the US election. The simple answer is nobody can give this explanation without someone in the law enforcement world doing a forensic examination of the machines/software and the ways they were actually used.

    Then, assuming there is evidence – for example, that USB’s were plugged in, or the machines were internet connected, or previously counted ballots could be run through a second time – then, what evidence of harm to the actual count.

    Then if evidence of harm, who did what, and why etc.

    Not been done, so no legal evidence either way. But lack of evidence is itself more than sufficient evidence that irregularity claims are “baseless” and Shut Up.

    A world of wonders.

  219. MatrixTransform

    Does anyone know how the term “boong” originated?

    fuck off Numpty

  220. Top Ender

    That old commie Phillip Adams made a lot of money a few decades back with his “great Australian joke book” or some such title.

    He very lazily collected lots of jokes from magazines, newspapers and so on, doubtless having someone else research them and type them up, and then his publishers slapped a cover on the whole lot and sold them.

    I recall having a glance through one once, and there were b00ngs aplenty.

  221. Maybe it’s the company I keep.

    Maybe you’ve led a sheltered existence.

  222. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’ve been called lubra lips, Numbers, if that helps.

  223. Tintarella di Luna

    However, Cheer being a short word and starting with a C …

    Any other short words beginning with a C you stupid c…t?

    . As is Count with a silent o – and like cheers has 5 letters — really the capituatlion of these numbskulls is beyond the pale — will never buy a block of Cheers cheese that’s fur shur.

  224. Rex Anger

    So (medical term used to begin a statement), stunned silence from the doubting Thomases who now realise that the soon to be ex-President has in fact been impeached twice, in the one and only term he will ever have.

    No Grigory.

    All us non-sockpuppets and fool ideologues have no inclination to bother with your leftwit labelling games

    Just as George Pell was acquitted 7-0 and was innocent to start with, Donald Trump has not been impeached.

    You need to make the charges stick, Grigory. I know you find it deplorable, but it is how it is…

  225. Tintarella di Luna

    The word boong would only spring to the mind of racist.

  226. calli

    Maybe you’ve led a sheltered existence.

    Yes. Very sheltered. 😀

  227. DrBeauGan

    I’ve got on ok with all the aborigines I’ve met and talked to which is more than I can say for the whiteys, though I’ve met a lot more of them, so it’s to be expected. Some of the more obnoxious whiteys have been those who go out of their way to be especially kind to aborigines, with a transparent ( if never to be admitted) conviction that aborigines are intrinsically inferior and so require the moral support of fat middle-aged white/grey pink women. I regard that, like an offer to be supportive, as insulting. Anyone offering me their moral support is going to get a rude reply. Implying, as it does, that I need it is grossly offensive.

    There are a few, usually female, who don’t understand this, so I take care to educate the patronising cows.

  228. Roger

    I was talking about the word.

    Words only have usages and contexts, calli. Abstracting meanings is the job of lexicographers, but even they refer to current usage as the arbiter of meaning.

    Outside of Mr. Hagan’s mind, I doubt anyone associated C00n cheese with a racial epithet that passed out of circulation at least a generation ago.

  229. Boambee John

    Does anyone know how the term “boong” originated?

    Other than the professionally offended, and those (hello ostrich) professionally offended on their behalf, does anyone care?

  230. Not been done, so no legal evidence either way. But lack of evidence is itself more than sufficient evidence that irregularity claims are “baseless” and Shut Up.

    I say that there are unicorns down the road from where I live.
    I don’t have evidence.
    But according to your logic, this lack of evidence is itself more than sufficient evidence that my claims are baseless.
    A world of wonders.

  231. Rafiki

    As I explained above, Trump has been impeached (for the second time). Just as Pell was committed for trial. But these actions do not qualify the presumption of innocence (which can only be displaced after a trial). In Trump’s case, on his trial after the first impeachment, he was not convicted. I doubt there will be a trial on this second I ofmpeachment.

  232. Delta A

    Rex Anger
    #3724291, posted on January 14, 2021 at 6:50 pm

    Well played, Rex.

  233. Some History

    1735099
    #3724305, posted on January 14, 2021 at 6:56 pm
    Not been done, so no legal evidence either way. But lack of evidence is itself more than sufficient evidence that irregularity claims are “baseless” and Shut Up.

    I say that there are unicorns down the road from where I live.

    Hey, Jackass, how long have you believed this?

  234. Roger

    Rafiki, those who regard Trump as having been “impeached” , as though the Senate delivered itself of a guilty verdict early last year and will do so again this year, show all the legal acumen of Louise Milligan.

  235. The word boong would only spring to the mind of racist.

    I heard it frequently when I was growing up in North Queensland.
    I also heard “C00n”, and it wasn’t applied to cheese.
    Neither offended me personally, but I’m not aboriginal.
    At age ten I knew enough not to direct either term towards any of the indigenous kids there at the time.
    Only the dickheads needed to be told not to use it.
    There were one or two back then, and there are still a few of them around.

  236. Delta A

    The word boong would only spring to the mind of racist.

    Exactly, Tinta.

    C**n, too. I’ve bought that cheese for breakfast toasties for many years, and not once did I associate it with anything to do with race. In my seven decades, I’ve heard the word used as a slur maybe three times, no more.

    I have never made the connection: cheese is cheese… although I won’t be buying cowardly C**n anymore.

  237. Delta A

    DrBeauGan
    #3724298, posted on January 14, 2021 at 6:53 pm

    Yes, Beaugy!

    My thoughts exactly.

  238. notafan

    Seems to me those terms were only used in Northern Queensland in living memory.

    I just watched ‘superbo ong’ on YouTube and realised it us the first time I’ve heard that word pronounced, apparently with a u as in bull.

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