US post-election thread VIII: It all ends in tears

Posted on January 9, 2021 by Sinclair Davidson
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  2. buckshot says:
    January 18, 2021 at 10:45 am

    chrism
    #3728196, posted on January 18, 2021 at 8:57 am
    Ratcliffe has a pair

    https://www.scribd.com/document/491038048/Ratcliffe-Views-on-Intelligence-Community-Election-Security-Analysis#from_embed

    Thanks chrism, very important document I suspect. The signed date of 7th January is the day after the Capitol Hill rally/riot, and when Trump was in Texas.

  3. buckshot says:
    January 18, 2021 at 10:47 am

    Sorry, didn’t realise that we had started in a new page. P has already made the point.

  5. Some History says:
    January 18, 2021 at 10:58 am


    Disclose.tv

    @disclosetv

    America 2021: National Guard troops march in front of the U.S. Capitol.

    https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1350951966759936006

  6. Colonel Crispin Berka says:
    January 18, 2021 at 11:04 am

    The problem with being physically harassed anonymously is that it makes any normal conversation about the issue impossible. So I’ll ask the question here and perhaps the stalker can use twice for Yes and once for No.
    “Have you become concerned mainly by #3724722 ?”

    Other Catallaxians please ignore this comment.

  7. stackja says:
    January 18, 2021 at 11:08 am

    Biden puppets still posting this morning. Scrolling, scrolling…

  8. Bar Beach Swimmer says:
    January 18, 2021 at 11:10 am

    Zip,
    I was thinking how gullible the trolls were regarding Wussia Wussia Wussia; Ukraine Ukraine Ukraine; Mueller, Impeachment Mk1 and every other lefty wishful thinking that was woven into ‘the beginning of the end’ or was it ‘the end of the beginning’? for Trump, a la Rachel Maddow et al.

    It reminds me as well of the Ern Malley fraud.

    How very wonderful that all these trolls can say hand on heart that they were not taken in by a huge and unmitigated lie.

    But as far as conservatives are concerned, the proof of this vast election fraud is everywhere to see. Now, while many hoped that this thing could be turned around because we were sure that right would prevail and that the greatest democracy on earth had systems in place to stop the steal, it so happens that corrupt officials are endemic to the

    land of the free and the home of the brave.

    But that Trump has not prevailed does not mean that there was no conspiracy to steal the election: the steal is there but the problem is there is no instrument to destroy it.

    However, perhaps the great swindle of 2020 will have meant that the populace have woken up to this electoral conspiracy against the people. If so, the American nation should again thank Trump.

  9. mh says:
    January 18, 2021 at 11:16 am

    A left-wing activist charged for his alleged participation in the Capitol Hill riot maintains control of his Twitter and YouTube accounts, Fox News has learned.

    John Sullivan, 26, recorded an up-close video of a woman’s fatal shooting during the Jan. 6 Capitol siege and can allegedly be heard egging on protesters in a video he shared on his YouTube and Twitter accounts under the pseudonym Jayden X.

  10. candy says:
    January 18, 2021 at 11:32 am

    John Sullivan may have connections to a senior Democrat.
    Otherwise why would an individual known to the police, a thug/criminal with dangerous intentions, be kept on Twitter.

    Just saying Twitter is a Left publisher entity does not explain it.

  11. chrism says:
    January 18, 2021 at 11:33 am

    I just want to say, I think there is evidence of election altering interference, that in addition to the domestic issues, there is also evidence for a number of international players & that remains significant and as serious as it can get short of missiles launched – perhaps more so

    If the intelligence agencies are so compromised that they are blind to what is happening then the game is up and the gulags should be finished and filled by the midterms

    if I were DT, I would probably lack sufficient courage to fight on

    Him ? I don’t know, but he hasn’t had a track record of turning from a fight – he did actually – not just Q Larps – issue the EO 2018 – FEMA is in play since early 2020 due to Covid

    there are enough pieces still on the ‘chess board’ if he is determined and possibly has a significant group behind him to go Lincoln and start arresting people

    will he?

  12. Indolent says:
    January 18, 2021 at 11:40 am

    possibly has a significant group behind him

    This is the real question. The EO was put in place for just such a situation but someone has to be prepared to enforce it.

  13. Colonel Crispin Berka says:
    January 18, 2021 at 11:44 am

    Tailgunner #3724780, posted on January 15, 2021 at 7:07 am

    If the Q army has been duped by an elaborate psy-op, it doesn’t make the Q- trolls right and us wrong.

    I assume by “us” you mean believers of Q, which does not include me. Not clear what exactly is being described as right or wrong either. You’re half right, as being duped by Q doesn’t mean everything is fine with Harriden or that there are no shadowy international criminal cartels, but it does mean you cannot rely on Q to inform you accurately of the problems or likely solutions.

    It just means we’re all equally fkd.

    Correct, but that’s no new revelation.

    The anti-Q trolls just haven’t figured it out yet.

    No, we’ve figured out the situation is bad when we saw the rhetoric from Harriden and the actions from BigTech, nothing to do with any Q-lore.

    All this 30k troops and high walls in D.C. nonsense, which happened under Pence’s approval by the sounds of it, may be entirely about optics. It creates around the inauguration all the same images of oppressive oligarchies that we’re used to seeing in …erm… those other oppressive oligarchies around the world. It may be to just make Harriden look bad on the day. But that is a long shot, and I expect the walls around the Capitol to stay up for at least 2 years. Unclear how much election reform can happen between now and next mid-terms and so no idea what difference they will make to popular sentiment towards D.C.

  15. Peter Greagg says:
    January 18, 2021 at 11:47 am

    chrism
    #3728403, posted on January 18, 2021 at 11:33 am
    I just want to say, I think there is evidence of election altering interference, that in addition to the domestic issues, there is also evidence for a number of international players & that remains significant and as serious as it can get short of missiles launched – perhaps more so

    If the intelligence agencies are so compromised that they are blind to what is happening then the game is up and the gulags should be finished and filled by the midterms

    if I were DT, I would probably lack sufficient courage to fight on

    Him ? I don’t know, but he hasn’t had a track record of turning from a fight – he did actually – not just Q Larps – issue the EO 2018 – FEMA is in play since early 2020 due to Covid

    there are enough pieces still on the ‘chess board’ if he is determined and possibly has a significant group behind him to go Lincoln and start arresting people

    will he?

    Well Radcliff is in no doubt about foriegn influence in the election. I don’t have any reason to doubt him.
    Don’t forget Bambi told Trump that Flynn was the most dangerous guy in the US.
    And I see no evidence he has given up.

  18. incoherent rambler says:
    January 18, 2021 at 12:03 pm

    Biden to cancel Keystone XL pipeline permit on first day in office: CBC
    Reuters 42 mins ago

    Traitorous. Damaging the USA energy supplies.

  19. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:
    January 18, 2021 at 12:04 pm

    Biden to cancel Keystone XL pipeline permit on first day in office: CBC

    The hard left agenda from an ageing decrepit crook, bidet is not even a mouthpiece, he can barely stick to the script. More evidence of a socialist coup.

  20. P says:
    January 18, 2021 at 12:10 pm

    @WORLDWIRENEWS3
    Account suspended

  21. egg_ says:
    January 18, 2021 at 12:38 pm

    Biden to cancel Keystone XL pipeline permit on first day in office: CBC

    The hard left agenda from an ageing decrepit crook, bidet is not even a mouthpiece, he can barely stick to the script. More evidence of a socialist coup.

    Who’s the head of the DNC?
    Giuliani said the steal came from the very top.

  22. egg_ says:
    January 18, 2021 at 12:40 pm

    Barack Obama’s fiery DNC speech in full – video

    Barack Obama delivered a powerful message calling for voters to protect American democracy during the third night of the Democratic national convention. The former president argued that Donald Trump’s potential re-election posed an existential threat to the country’s democratic values and institutions, and he implored voters to ’embrace your own responsibility as citizens’

  23. egg_ says:
    January 18, 2021 at 12:42 pm

    Ex Military, Bannon, had no intel on the incoming steal from both Parties?

    P1ss poor!

  24. egg_ says:
    January 18, 2021 at 12:45 pm

    Convention leadership
    On March 26, 2019, Joe Solmonese, former president of the Human Rights Campaign, was named convention CEO.[120]

  25. mh says:
    January 18, 2021 at 12:50 pm

    The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) arrested Daniel Alan Baker, identified as an Antifa activist, on Friday for allegedly issuing a call to arms on Internet platforms against the Florida state Capitol.

    Baker, who described himself as a “hardcore leftist,” took part in several anti-police protests around the country, including in Seattle’s CHOP/CHAZ zone.

  28. P says:
    January 18, 2021 at 1:54 pm

    Trump Expected to Issue Around 100 Pardons on Tuesday.

  29. Grip says:
    January 18, 2021 at 1:55 pm

    Trump’s approval polling has taken a nose dive:

    According to the Pew Research Center, Trump is leaving office with the lowest approval rating he’s had during his time in the White House, with just 29 percent of the public approving of his job performance. Other pollsters are finding similar drops, indicating that Trump’s role in inciting a violent mob that stormed the US Capitol on January 6, and his subsequent impeachment on January 13, marks a low of his presidency in the eyes of the public. …

    Trump’s approval rating puts him at about half the level of approval of his predecessor, Barack Obama, during his final days in office…

    What may be most striking about Trump’s low ratings as he prepares to leave Washington is that historically, presidents experience a bump in approval ratings in their final days, according to FiveThirtyEight. Even George W. Bush saw his (deeply underwater) net approval rise 13 points between the 2008 election and Obama’s inauguration after an unpopular second term, and amid a financial crisis.

    He never polled as a popular president. He is even less popular now.

    Makes your “but he couldn’t have lost, he had so many people at rallies” look particularly pathetic.

  30. Rex Anger says:
    January 18, 2021 at 2:02 pm

    Oh noes! The Getup troll is posting MSM polls! 😱😱😱

    Makes your “but he couldn’t have lost, he had so many people at rallies” look particularly pathetic

    You are a very poor ankle-biter, Grip. Your teeth are blunt.

    Minus Eleventy Gazillion Social Credit Points for being so shit.

    Chairman Winnie Xi Pooh is despondent.

    Return to Beijing for immediate replacement…

  31. incoherent rambler says:
    January 18, 2021 at 2:05 pm

    It’s baaaack!

  32. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:
    January 18, 2021 at 2:06 pm

    DNC Leadership
    Chair: Tom Perez, former U.S. Secretary of Labor under Barack Obama[12]
    Vice Chair of Civic Engagement and Voter Participation: Karen Carter Peterson[13]
    Vice Chairs:
    Michael Blake, New York Assemblyman[13]
    Jaime Harrison, Associate Chair and former South Carolina Democratic Party Chairman.[13] On January 14, 2021, it was reported that U.S. President-elect Joe Biden would nominate Harrison to Chair the Democratic National Committee. As the presumptive Chair, Harrison will succeed Tom Perez on January 21, once he is elected by the DNC membership.[14]
    Maria Elena Durazo, Executive Secretary–Treasurer of the AFL-CIO[15]
    Ken Martin, Chair of the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party[16]
    Grace Meng, U.S. Representative from New York’s 6th congressional district[17]
    Treasurer: William “Bill” Derrough[18]
    Secretary: Jason Rae[19]
    Finance Chair: Chris Korge[15]

  33. Indolent says:
    January 18, 2021 at 2:26 pm

    Trump Expected to Issue Around 100 Pardons on Tuesday.

    Proof positive.

  34. mh says:
    January 18, 2021 at 2:26 pm

    JB of Shanghai/Sydney is back.

  35. 1735099 says:
    January 18, 2021 at 2:50 pm

    Makes your “but he couldn’t have lost, he had so many people at rallies” look particularly pathetic.

    Yes.
    His term is unique.
    Only president to be impeached twice.
    The president with the consistently lowest approval rating on record.(Both Trump and Carter bottomed out on 35%).
    President with highest staff turnover rate.
    President with US GDP lower at end of term than beginning.
    His term has seen the greatest annualised negative change in real GDP in history.
    Watched his citizens die at an unprecedented rate from a virus he cynically mishandled.

    But he had such lovely rallies…..

  36. 1735099 says:
    January 18, 2021 at 2:58 pm

    Trump Expected to Issue Around 100 Pardons on Tuesday.

    That should earn him about $100 million at the going rate.

  37. Rex Anger says:
    January 18, 2021 at 3:03 pm

    Bobby boy,

    You sure are desperate to smear a man no longer in power.

    Why is this?

    Orange Ming Bad can’t bend you over, Conscript you again and send you back to Vietnam…

  38. buckshot says:
    January 18, 2021 at 3:14 pm

    1735099
    #3728606, posted on January 18, 2021 at 2:58 pm
    Trump Expected to Issue Around 100 Pardons on Tuesday.

    That should earn him about $100 million at the going rate.

    This attempted smear is so inane it needs to be called out. Trump was a billionaire prior to running for President. Do you think he took on the job to make money? Do you think he would have made more money in property development if he had not run? It’s just more projecting Numbers. Think before you re-post this CNN rubbish.

  39. chrism says:
    January 18, 2021 at 3:17 pm

    the caravan are shouting ‘Biden, Biden’, “El Sniffer, El Sniffer’ they chant in their thousands, as they head from Guatemala towards the US … confusing the crap out of ‘poor c’mon man Joe’; ‘are these guys the absentee voters’ ?he asks his sisterX wife… – he struggles to answer – are these the guys from Lolita Island?
    what did we promise them ?

    too much too fast for poor Joe

    https://issuesinsights.com/2021/01/14/chinas-not-swedens-or-denmarks-is-the-government-democrats-want/

  40. buckshot says:
    January 18, 2021 at 3:31 pm

    More to come from Veritas on Twitter leak. looks like later today:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzbootPBRkM

  41. Winston Smith says:
    January 18, 2021 at 3:32 pm

    Bar Beach Swimmer:

    But that Trump has not prevailed does not mean that there was no conspiracy to steal the election: the steal is there but the problem is there is no instrument to destroy it.

    So very true.
    Look, the election was stolen in a combined CCP/Democrat/Fascist plan.
    There’s very little doubt on that.
    The fat lady hasn’t sung yet, but she is getting her dress back from the dry cleaners today and getting her hair done.
    I fervently hope President Trump – for President he is – prevails, but there is no shame in losing on this occasion. It just means the cost in blood and treasure is going to be much higher before the US gets its freedoms back.

  42. Indolent says:
    January 18, 2021 at 3:40 pm

    I fervently hope President Trump – for President he is – prevails, but there is no shame in losing on this occasion. It just means the cost in blood and treasure is going to be much higher before the US gets its freedoms back.

    The thing is in this case, despite all the good things he did, Trump would have failed totally because not only will there be no draining of the swamp but their power will be increased to totalitarian levels, as can already be seen.

  43. Winston Smith says:
    January 18, 2021 at 3:54 pm

    Indolent:

    The thing is in this case, despite all the good things he did, Trump would have failed totally because not only will there be no draining of the swamp but their power will be increased to totalitarian levels, as can already be seen.

    Perhaps a good dose of Totalitarianism is what is required to make the Leftist Sheep realise how badly they’ve been misled.
    There have already been some mutterings about the extremist agenda being enacted under Pelosi in the halls of government, the threatened cancellation of the Canadian pipeline, and the ensuing dependence on Middle East oil and the wars that will eventuate. Perhaps the need to enact national service to feed the war machine will wake up the waverers and split the Left.
    Nations are only three meals away from revolution was the mantra in the 60’s, but Australian fuel prices in the US (av 68 cents US per litre) will certainly crush any attempt to kick the economy into high gear.

  44. FelixKruell says:
    January 18, 2021 at 4:38 pm

    Zippy:

    Biden to cancel Keystone XL pipeline permit on first day in office: CBC

    The hard left agenda from an ageing decrepit crook, bidet is not even a mouthpiece, he can barely stick to the script. More evidence of a socialist coup.

    Also known by less crazy people as ‘keeping an election promise’

  45. Rex Anger says:
    January 18, 2021 at 4:41 pm

    Slow day at the cricket, Grigory?

  46. FelixKruell says:
    January 18, 2021 at 4:43 pm

    Rex:

    You sure are desperate to smear a man no longer in power.

    Wait, I thought he was still president? Biden wasn’t even President-elect, let alone president. You were so adamant.

  47. Rex Anger says:
    January 18, 2021 at 4:47 pm

    OK- slow day at the cricket it is.

    Shame Grigory. Your Ed Case suit is far more entertaining.

    You play a better neurotic than a slimeball…

  48. Rex Anger says:
    January 18, 2021 at 4:50 pm

    Biden wasn’t even President-elect, let alone president. You were so adamant.

    He wasn’t at the time. And he still isn’t. No matter how many attempts are made.to legitimise the Steal.

    He certainly is #NotMyPresident, Grigory…

    #Resist

  49. JC says:
    January 18, 2021 at 4:51 pm

    Also known by less crazy people as ‘keeping an election promise’

    Yes, for those legitimately winning and not through targeted cheating. You conservative you. You’re such a dishonest pillow biter, Ringshot.

  50. Slim Cognito says:
    January 18, 2021 at 5:01 pm

    Also known by less crazy people as ‘keeping an election promise’

    Not when Trump does it apparently.

  51. FelixKruell says:
    January 18, 2021 at 5:49 pm

    JC:

    Yes, for those legitimately winning and not through targeted cheating. You conservative you. You’re such a dishonest pillow biter, Ringshot.

    I wonder what conservatives rely on to decide who wins elections? Hmmm…it’ll come to me.

  52. Rex Anger says:
    January 18, 2021 at 6:25 pm

    I wonder what conservatives rely on to decide who wins elections? Hmmm…it’ll come to me.

    Non-fraudulent, genuine and correctly overwatched ballot counts, Grigory.

    Next moronic trollshit/tired Leftwit meme?

  53. Kneel says:
    January 18, 2021 at 6:26 pm

    “I wonder what conservatives rely on to decide who wins elections?”

    Hey Felix – did you have a look at the errors in official election data I posted about?
    I mean, you asked me to repost and I did, but you haven’t said anything and still seem convinced everything is hunky dorey.
    Seems pretty clear there is something going on, although as I stated before, what I presented doesn’t show fraud, just errors. No-one seems interested in chasing these down and debunking them if they are just simple mistakes…

  55. Colonel Crispin Berka says:
    January 18, 2021 at 6:36 pm

    As my previous comment has been unceremoniously deleted for wrongthink, I’ll attempt to write just the conclusion without the reasoning.

    Deploy your 101st social media batallion and your 1st angry placard regiments and #Resist the illegitimate Harriden regime all you want, but armed rebellion is off the table. Civil war is very uncivil and would cause death needlessly when a path of reform still exists, it would create a distraction for America that may allow the CCP to invade Taiwan, and it would strategically and rhetorically embolden terrorist elements around the world. As inspirational as it may have once been, the circumstances today show it is better to leave the “1776” strategy back in the 18th century.
    Various protestors and intellectuals such as Scott Presler and Robert Barnes have suggested civil paths of election reform and election litigation. e.g. https://dailytorch.com/2021/01/a-pragmatic-realistic-optimistic-plan-for-ending-voter-fraud/
    There will be no “quick fix” for the stolen election, just slow State legislative reform, prosecution of some of the polling minions, and possibly a right wing “long march through the institutions” in a reversal of the infestation that led to the 2020 outcome.

  56. Tel says:
    January 18, 2021 at 6:49 pm

    I wonder what conservatives rely on to decide who wins elections?

    Hey how’s this idea … let some election observers come from both major parties (equal numbers of each) and they can observe the counting as scrutineers. Then they go back to their respective parties and are happy that the counting was all done right. Oh yeah, and try not to kick those guys out then count in the middle of the night after they are gone … not a good look, right?

    Wait wait, I just realized this is not a new idea … it’s been done this way in every other election. How about that? You had the way back home right with you all along.

  57. Rex Anger says:
    January 18, 2021 at 7:03 pm

    There will be no “quick fix” for the stolen election, just slow State legislative reform, prosecution of some of the polling minions, and possibly a right wing “long march through the institutions” in a reversal of the infestation that led to the 2020 outcome.

    You can hope, plan and even seed such things Crispin.

    But should the leftwits in power go full Stalinist inntheir paranoia and power-lust, the purges and attempted gulgaggin may make the undesired (I agree) Civil war inevitable.

    Not because politics by other means, but for mere survival…

  58. candy says:
    January 18, 2021 at 7:04 pm

    Also known by less crazy people as ‘keeping an election promise’

    Felix
    Fraud Biden may well change his mind on the Keystone issue.

    What will you say then – that it takes a mature statesman to forego an election promise if the circumstances demand it or something like that?

  59. 1735099 says:
    January 18, 2021 at 7:11 pm

    Wait wait, I just realized this is not a new idea … it’s been done this way in every other election.

    And it was done this way in November 2020.

  60. min says:
    January 18, 2021 at 7:18 pm

    I cannot think of a country that did not have a resistance movement except those whose leaders were so authoritarian and purged their enemies likeNazis and communist and USA is fast coming that way . So what is the answer will the right roll over and do nothing ?
    Biden is shutting down a source of energy and cutting many jobs by doing that , letting in immigrants who will do what they have always done , work for the likes of Hollywood and the other elites, at low wages so more Americans out of work. Destroying the medical system and then raising basic wage . In the meantime China shows her force and how can he send more money to Iran again to shut down their nuclear programme , haha and Kimmy will start playing with his missiles again to see how far they will go .
    Joe will retire to his basement and Kamala will try and lock up all the natives as she did before .
    Have I covered all the disasters ?

  61. buckshot says:
    January 18, 2021 at 7:46 pm

    Wait wait, I just realized this is not a new idea … it’s been done this way in every other election.

    And it was done this way in November 2020.

    Ignorance is not an argument Numbers. The date on the No Use Times article is 7th November, which predates the release of the video from State Farm Arena in Georgia, and the evidence presented to state legislatures in the swing states by eye witnesses referencing their sworn affidavits, and subject to questioning from the legislature members.

  62. m0nty says:
    January 18, 2021 at 7:54 pm

    Question to the assembled Q hordes: would you ever consider a Democratic Party president to be legitimate ever again? Or have you simply abandoned all faith in small-d democratic process forever more?

  63. Rex Anger says:
    January 18, 2021 at 8:04 pm

    Or have you simply abandoned all faith in small-d democratic process forever more?

    They still have faith in the small-d democratic process, Benito M0ntylini.

    Just not when you and your lot are pulling strings to manipulate and twist it your way…

    would you ever consider a Democratic Party president to be legitimate ever again?

    There is a Biblical concept known as ‘Acts befitting Repentance,’ Benito M0ntylini. Also known in Latin as Acta Non Verba. A mere merely-mouthed assurance of recantation is insufficient.

    Knowing that you, the Democrat Party machine and every leftist and oligarch innthe world would never allow any such a heretical behaviour amongst their lowest-level constituents, let alone anywhere near the Presidency, the answer would be “Unlikely at this time, tovarisch. Come back in a generation or three, after you’ve been spanked back into timeout corner for your troubles…”

  64. buckshot says:
    January 18, 2021 at 8:06 pm

    m0nty
    #3728986, posted on January 18, 2021 at 7:54 pm
    Question to the assembled Q hordes: would you ever consider a Democratic Party president to be legitimate ever again? Or have you simply abandoned all faith in small-d democratic process forever more?

    Ask Tulsi Gabbard. She’s given up on them:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gy797D3cAY

  65. buckshot says:
    January 18, 2021 at 8:31 pm

    It’s not just the Republicans that the DNC rigg elections against. Prior to this Presidential election, Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar co-authored a report complaining about election rigging in the Democrat primaries. Gabbard was completely shut out, and it was thought that Bernie Sanders was defeated by the same mail-in ballot technique used against Trump.

    They are pretty much rotten to the core when they start eating their own.

    I know it’s probably hope over reality, but if Marshall Law were enacted and the top echelon of the DNC were arrested for corruption or foreign collusion/treason, it would probably be better for the Democrats in the long run.

  66. custard says:
    January 18, 2021 at 8:39 pm

    Monty

    Cat favourite of mine A Happy Little Debunker has posted somewhere on the Cat that democracy only works with the consent of the losers.

    The Dems cheated bigly. Trump tried every legal avenue to challenge the outcome. The losers don’t consent.

    I cannot see any circumstances that Trump will leave without attempting to get justice for the people and wipe the floor with the fuckers that have so vilified him and betrayed America.

    Anything can happen and what’s going on in DC is totally out of proportion with what we are being told thru the MSM.

  67. P says:
    January 18, 2021 at 8:39 pm

    Ask Tulsi Gabbard. She’s given up on them:

    That vid is over a year old. Sept 15, 2019.

  68. custard says:
    January 18, 2021 at 8:40 pm

    Oh and the Democrats couldn’t win an election unless they cheated…

  69. Rex Anger says:
    January 18, 2021 at 8:47 pm

    Ask Tulsi Gabbard. She’s given up on them:

    That vid is over a year old. Sept 15, 2019

    So what?

    Tulsi still got a dose of the Democrat Party Machine. And she did not appreciate it.

    Nor did anyone who felt she was the better representative of what the Democrat Party is, cluld and should be, over the various grifters, race hustlers, Main Chancers, Communists and I slamofascists that have manipulated their way into prominence over the last decade.

  70. FelixKruell says:
    January 18, 2021 at 8:58 pm

    Rex:

    Non-fraudulent, genuine and correctly overwatched ballot counts, Grigory.

    No, that’s not it. Keep trying though!

  71. Tel says:
    January 18, 2021 at 9:00 pm

    I love Tulsi, she’s still the sentimental favourite.

    Hopefully she reads some books on economics, or perhaps watches a video.

  72. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:
    January 18, 2021 at 9:00 pm

    Non-fraudulent, genuine and correctly overwatched ballot counts, Grigory.

    No, that’s not it. Keep trying though!

    so the nong admits that fraudulent elections are a thing of the left.

  73. FelixKruell says:
    January 18, 2021 at 9:01 pm

    Candy:

    Felix
    Fraud Biden may well change his mind on the Keystone issue.

    What will you say then – that it takes a mature statesman to forego an election promise if the circumstances demand it or something like that?

    Huh? There’s no indication he’s changing his mind. And every indication he intends to go thru with it.

    But if he doesn’t, he will have broken an election promise, and should be criticised for it.

    You seem to be confusing me with your fellow posters, who play the side, rather than the principle.

  74. FelixKruell says:
    January 18, 2021 at 9:02 pm

    Tel:

    Hey how’s this idea … let some election observers come from both major parties (equal numbers of each) and they can observe the counting as scrutineers. Then they go back to their respective parties and are happy that the counting was all done right. Oh yeah, and try not to kick those guys out then count in the middle of the night after they are gone … not a good look, right?

    I agree – it’s always good to have a non-zero number of election observers in the room.

  75. FelixKruell says:
    January 18, 2021 at 9:04 pm

    Kneel:

    Hey Felix – did you have a look at the errors in official election data I posted about?

    Nope – when did you do that? It’s hard to keep track amongst all the doom and gloom posts here.

  76. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:
    January 18, 2021 at 9:06 pm

    Ask Tulsi Gabbard. She’s given up on them:

    Let’s look at the facts, when you have no morals as a political party and the end justifies the means then rigging debates, primaries and elections is just another tool on the path to communism.

  77. buckshot says:
    January 18, 2021 at 9:06 pm

    That vid is over a year old. Sept 15, 2019.

    This one is more recent. Tulsi is one of the young moderates in the Democrats, but decided to run for President and not re-contest her House of Reps seat. (starts explaining around the 8:30 mark) She now blogs on Dave Rubin’s Locals site.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3j3RSxMSEg

  79. politichix says:
    January 18, 2021 at 9:23 pm

    Tailgunner, I would have thought those sentiments would be universally appreciated Q or not….

  80. mh says:
    January 18, 2021 at 9:24 pm

    Something for the Q-trolls.

    Have a look at the symbol used.

  81. Tel says:
    January 18, 2021 at 9:31 pm

    I agree – it’s always good to have a non-zero number of election observers in the room.

    That’s not what I said though is it? Not “in the room” but actually able to observe … unlike the people kept 12 feet distant who were NOT able to observe.

    Not “non zero” but equal numbers from both parties and sufficient to watch all counting that’s going on.

    Doesn’t take long before you guy resort to trickery does it?

  82. m0nty says:
    January 18, 2021 at 9:34 pm

    Cat favourite of mine A Happy Little Debunker has posted somewhere on the Cat that democracy only works with the consent of the losers.

    That was my point, custard. The losers in this case were not going to consent no matter how badly they were beaten. Trump was whining about the steal before the election even happened.

    What happens when one side of a two party system refuses to participate in the system at all, because they know they will lose if they don’t change their platform and they think their platform is more important than winning? Then we have civil war, eventually – but only if both sides are roughly equal. If not, then all you have is an insurgency, and those usually fail miserably.

    Jan 6 was the warm up, and as such it showed how weak the Trump side is. You can faff on about Sun Tzu all you like, but he would be cringing from behind his fingers at the complete shit show at the Capitol. You mounted an insurrection, got hundreds of people inside the Capitol building, came within seconds of capturing Congresspeople… but you failed and went home, and you won’t get a second chance.

  83. politichix says:
    January 18, 2021 at 9:37 pm

    mh
    #3729166, posted on January 18, 2021 at 9:24 pm
    Something for the Q-trolls.

    Have a look at the symbol used.

    Fair point….

    “three sevens – a simbol used by neo-natzi skin heads. it is commonly worn on a shirt or as a flag. latley it has becom a “trend” to have it tattooed on your fore arm to show that you are a skin head. often is shown in black incased in a white circle on a red back ground”

    Or…

    “Three Sevens in a Tarot reading is similar to receiving four Sevens. However, while four Sevens predicts effortless manifestation, you’ll have to work a little harder with three Sevens. The trick is to use your psychic ability so that you can navigate your life.”

    Meh

  84. Tailgunner says:
    January 18, 2021 at 9:38 pm

    Have a look at the symbol used.

    Old European triskele?
    Don’t fall for the ADL propoganda.

  85. candy says:
    January 18, 2021 at 9:38 pm

    But if he doesn’t, he will have broken an election promise, and should be criticised for it.

    He should be impeached if he fails an election promise on day 1, Felix.

  86. Rex Anger says:
    January 18, 2021 at 9:40 pm

    No, that’s not it. Keep trying though!

    No Grigory.

    It is all.

    A group can accept a legitimately determined and adjudicated defeat, and consent to the government of its opponents for a time.

    It will not consent to the machinations and bastardry

  87. Rex Anger says:
    January 18, 2021 at 9:41 pm

    of a group of people who deliberately subvert the entire pricess of voting, counting, adjudication and certification for the sole purpose of gaining and maintaining power. Regardless of reason or justification.

  88. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:
    January 18, 2021 at 9:44 pm

    You mounted an insurrection, got hundreds of people inside the Capitol building, came within seconds of capturing Congresspeople…

    Are you on crack?

  89. Boambee John says:
    January 18, 2021 at 9:49 pm

    That was my point, custard. The losers in this case were not going to consent no matter how badly they were beaten. Trump was whining about the steal before the election even happened.

    The fat fascist fool has a poor memory. Demonrat supporters were preparing an “insurance policy” well before the actual election. While Shrillary formally conceded, her supporters, led by Obama, Biden, the MSM and elements of the Deep State, started undermining Trump even before he was inaugurated.

  90. Boambee John says:
    January 18, 2021 at 9:51 pm

    You mounted an insurrection,

    Almost missed this stupidity by munty.

    The only unarmed insurrection in history.

  91. mh says:
    January 18, 2021 at 9:51 pm

    Qanon are tarot readers?

    That works.

  92. Tel says:
    January 18, 2021 at 9:53 pm

    Are you on crack?

    If he is, he’s wasting it hanging around here.

  93. m0nty says:
    January 18, 2021 at 9:56 pm

    If you ever find yourself on the opposite side of an argument to the ADL, take a good hard look at yourself.

  94. tgs says:
    January 18, 2021 at 10:10 pm

    Tailgunner
    #3729148, posted on January 18, 2021 at 9:09 pm

    https://twitter.com/TipsySkunk/status/1351024079290175488?s=19

    Something for the Q-trolls.

    Fuckin lol, so you admit it was all a load of shit but that’s ok cause a bunch of LARPing boomers who can’t tell a 4chan meme from reality “like totally learned to think for themselves”?

  95. Snoopy says:
    January 18, 2021 at 10:10 pm

    Who knew the Isle of Man was an out and proud bulwark of Nazism?

  96. FelixKruell says:
    January 18, 2021 at 10:11 pm

    Tel:

    That’s not what I said though is it? Not “in the room” but actually able to observe … unlike the people kept 12 feet distant who were NOT able to observe.

    Not “non zero” but equal numbers from both parties and sufficient to watch all counting that’s going on.

    Doesn’t take long before you guy resort to trickery does it?

    That went over your head I see…

  97. FelixKruell says:
    January 18, 2021 at 10:13 pm

    Rex:

    A group can accept a legitimately determined and adjudicated defeat, and consent to the government of its opponents for a time.

    It will not consent to the machinations and bastardry

    Not when you define legitimacy to be voting for the right person. It gets awfully circular then.

    Trump told us all he wouldn’t concede he lost, even before the election.

  98. FelixKruell says:
    January 18, 2021 at 10:14 pm

    Candy:

    He should be impeached if he fails an election promise on day 1, Felix.

    If we insisted on that standard, Trump would have been impeached every day of his term. And most politicians at least once.

  99. Rex Anger says:
    January 18, 2021 at 10:16 pm

    Not when you define legitimacy to be voting for the right person. It gets awfully circular then.

    Trump told us all he wouldn’t concede he lost, even before the election.

    And Hillary told Biden the same Grigory.

    So what?

    Besides, the Orangutan Bard didn’t cheat. else you’d be crowing at us about that.

    Stop being stupid. I know it’s hard, but try. Or abandon this sock and use Ed Case more often…

  100. Rex Anger says:
    January 18, 2021 at 10:18 pm

    If you ever find yourself on the same side of an argument to the ADL, take a good hard look at yourself.

    FIFY, Benito M0ntylini…

  101. Winston Smith says:
    January 18, 2021 at 10:20 pm

    P:

    Ask Tulsi Gabbard. She’s given up on them:
    That vid is over a year old. Sept 15, 2019.

    Tulsi isn’t silly – she’s put herself as the person most likely to get a job with the next Republican administration who are looking for the ‘reach across the aisle.’
    Bloody hell, how stupid are people here?

  102. Neil says:
    January 18, 2021 at 10:26 pm

    If we insisted on that standard, Trump would have been impeached every day of his term. And most politicians at least once.

    In 2007 Rudd/ALP promised a NBN costing taxpayers $4.7B and finished by 2013. Biggest lie ever to win an election. A lie most people do not remember.

  103. egg_ says:
    January 18, 2021 at 10:35 pm

    “Secrets Of America’s Shadow Government” doco now on SBS Viceland (AEDT)

  105. FelixKruell says:
    January 18, 2021 at 11:06 pm

    Neil:

    In 2007 Rudd/ALP promised a NBN costing taxpayers $4.7B and finished by 2013. Biggest lie ever to win an election. A lie most people do not remember.

    I remember that one. A pretty big lie, but not the biggest sadly.

  106. FelixKruell says:
    January 18, 2021 at 11:07 pm

    Rex:

    And Hillary told Biden the same Grigory.

    So what?

    It shows Trumps reluctance to concede has no actual relationship to the fairness or otherwise of the election. That’s what.

  107. Rex Anger says:
    January 18, 2021 at 11:18 pm

    It shows Trumps reluctance to concede has no actual relationship to the fairness or otherwise of the election. That’s what.

    So you think, Grigory…

  108. Colonel Crispin Berka says:
    January 18, 2021 at 11:38 pm

    TG
    We’re on different pages with terminology. I take the old-school definition of trolling.
    A troll aims to cause grief in a forum, mainly by saying things they don’t really believe which will upset if taken seriously. A Q-troll would be someone who does not believe Q but pretends they do to suck in more members or to cause grief.
    So I’m not a Q-troll, I’m a Q-skeptic. I don’t believe Q and I have made mostly logical statements (okay maybe inflammatory once, I don’t recall exactly) about why I don’t believe it, and yes, why I think you shouldn’t believe it, but I ultimately remain open to be persuaded by evidence.
    I did way more reading and gave this Q stuff way more time to persuade than any normal person would, you know that. What Q-ers put forward as their best proofs was just not leaping out at me as definite. Maybe the QProofs site did not put forward the best possible arguments, but that’s hardly my fault. If you know of anything better surely you would have nominated the best proof by now.

    As for that “Hope is always correct” opinion, you are right in the sense that people who have no purpose or value in their life will want to fill that void with something, and the quasi-religious nature of Q-lore appears to suit that need for them. Sure that’s better than nothing I guess. It’s still wrong for the Q author to know the hope is false and to still give that false hope to people anyway. But I don’t recall Q giving instructions to do any form of “work” that will verifiably “save the children”. Q Anons kindof invented the self-congratulating activism part themselves. What did Q explicitly tell people to do?
    What has Q-world actually achieved anyway? Again, I don’t mind being persuaded by evidence, but what evidence is there? Where is the digital soldiers’ trophy cabinet?

    And isn’t this whole conversation going to be basically moot less than a week from now when you think all the predicted action starts? It happens or it doesn’t.

  109. mh says:
    January 18, 2021 at 11:48 pm

    Good to see the Murdoch sons kicking more goals.

    Own goals.

    Fox News’ ratings have plummeted in the aftermath of Trump supporters abandoning the network, with the broadcaster registering its poorest showing since September 2000.

    The Daily Beast reports that Fox News finished third to both MSNBC and CNN for three days running last week, their worst performance in over 20 years.

  110. mh says:
    January 18, 2021 at 11:54 pm

    What has Q-world actually achieved anyway? Again, I don’t mind being persuaded by evidence, but what evidence is there? Where is the digital soldiers’ trophy cabinet?

    This count as a trophy?

  111. Tel says:
    January 18, 2021 at 11:55 pm

    In case anyone missed it, the inauguration has been declared an official disaster zone.

    https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20210114/fema-supporting-government-partners-across-dc-region-preparation-59th

    In these Peak Onion times … I don’t know if that’s trolling or serious, or perhaps both.

  112. Howard Hill says:
    January 19, 2021 at 12:24 am

    The truth of it all you should all understand. If you can’t, well there’s no hope for you, disappear yourself!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XguQGkcDFAs

  113. Howard Hill says:
    January 19, 2021 at 12:47 am

    This is what the trolls are defending?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kEyx6R6CX0

  114. dover_beach says:
    January 19, 2021 at 1:00 am

    Great segment by Rowan Dean.

  115. Armadillo says:
    January 19, 2021 at 1:17 am

    Pussys. The best days are yet to come.

  116. chrism says:
    January 19, 2021 at 1:19 am

    In case you missed the Brad Johnson interview re Leonardo
    its gone from every youtube upload

    it is still on this page

    https://greatgameindia.com/italian-leonardo-satellites-us-election/

  117. egg_ says:
    January 19, 2021 at 1:31 am

    Journo Masako Ganaha in the DC Inauguration area.
    The Japanese journo who exposed the Antifa “fluffy hat” in the Babbitt videos.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXPP5AljtJw

  122. Goanna says:
    January 19, 2021 at 6:17 am

    Stealing the most powerful republic in the world. Trump not finished. One minute.

    https://t.me/Mrdonald_trump/308

  123. P says:
    January 19, 2021 at 6:36 am

    Pelosi Demands Halt To Installing Trump Appointee as NSA General Counsel
    January 18, 2021

    Washington D.C. – Speaker Nancy Pelosi sent a letter late yesterday to Acting Department of Defense Secretary Christopher C. Miller demanding an immediate halt to the improper process of installing ‘unqualified Trump-loyalist Michael Ellis’ as the new National Security Agency General Counsel 72 hours prior to the beginning of the new Administration.

  124. P says:
    January 19, 2021 at 7:14 am

    Kamala Harris resigns Senate seat ahead of swearing in as VP

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y_TLkpB1VI

  125. Tailgunner says:
    January 19, 2021 at 7:45 am

    Thanks, Goanna – that short clip is excellent. Spread that.

  129. Winston Smith says:
    January 19, 2021 at 8:19 am

    Steve Trickler:
    Is that for realz? I knew the report was supposed to come out within a certain time frame but expected it to be a white wash of the CCP/Clinton Conspiracy.
    So where does this leave us?

  130. Anne says:
    January 19, 2021 at 8:29 am

    Tailgunner
    #3729431, posted on January 19, 2021 at 7:51 am
    https://twitter.com/Avery1776/status/1351251563919122432?s=19

    Watch this.

    “A peaceful transition of Military power.”

    Transition from Corporate Mercenaries back to defending the Republic from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

  131. mh says:
    January 19, 2021 at 8:36 am

    I’m just glad Rupert got to see how talented his sons were

    Nolte: Disgraced Fox News Channel Is Losing to MSNBC and CNNLOL

    https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2021/01/18/nolte-disgraced-fox-news-channel-is-losing-to-msnbc-and-cnnlol/

  133. shatterzzz says:
    January 19, 2021 at 8:46 am

    Sez it all really!
    https://ibb.co/9HVdqBj

  134. Tailgunner says:
    January 19, 2021 at 8:53 am

    https://twitter.com/We_Have_Risen/status/1351245688638730242?s=19
    2k National Guard sworn in as US Marshals.
    Wonder why that is?
    Lol

  135. Maj says:
    January 19, 2021 at 8:53 am

    God has given him three prophecies for January 20th @ 5.25:

    1. Trump will be inaugurated for a 2nd term

    2. God is going to allow swift justice to come to uproot evil

    3. Military action is coming, but do not be fearful

    In 48 hrs he will either be the greatest prophet alive, or a false prophet.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTvP_SP5fHQ

  136. Anne says:
    January 19, 2021 at 8:57 am

    When the X-Files drops the Truth.

    https://twitter.com/whiterabbitnn/status/1351040115452375041?s=21 2mins

    The Government is the enemy, not The Left or The Right or The Fringe.

    They set up paradigms and narratives to set us against each other.

    It’s never been The People.

    It’s always been THEM.

  138. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:
    January 19, 2021 at 9:01 am

    if only they put this much effort into uncovering the stolen election…. oh wait they were part of it

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvHyMhgMcqQ

  140. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:
    January 19, 2021 at 9:04 am

    In 48 hrs he will either be the greatest prophet alive, or a false prophet.

    the only thing that may save the republic at this stage of the socialist ballot box coup is for the military to stage a counter coup

  141. Bar Beach Swimmer says:
    January 19, 2021 at 9:04 am

    TG @7:51
    👍

  142. Some History says:
    January 19, 2021 at 9:08 am


    Sharon Shepard
    @SharonShepshan

    Retweet here’s Biden and he knows all about the dominion boxes he speaks of them from 2007 he knows about the manipulation and how they all work this is damning everybody posted send it to trump

    https://twitter.com/SharonShepshan/status/1341785579776745473

  143. Bar Beach Swimmer says:
    January 19, 2021 at 9:25 am

    Thanks, Goanna.

  144. 1735099 says:
    January 19, 2021 at 10:03 am

    A Clinical Psychiatrist’s View, from The Bulletin –

    A PSYCHOPATHIC PRESIDENT’S LAST ACT:
    Alan D. Blotcky, Ph.D., clinical psychologist in Birmingham, Alabama, and Salon, January 14, 2021

    Donald Trump’s attempted coup against our government was predictable. He had it all planned out. He would incite thousands of supporters to attack the Capitol, disrupt the proceedings of the Senate and find a way to maintain his grip on power. He knew full well that his violent insurrectionists had blood on their minds and that Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Vice President Mike Pence were in harm’s way. He knew there was a chance that both Pelosi and Pence could be kidnapped or murdered. He did not care one whit. He was partying and celebrating as the attackers formed and began their deadly march. He was inciting an insurrection against the United States for his own personal gain. Democracy and human life were of no concern to him.
    But his efforts failed. The Senate was not overtaken. Joe Biden was certified as the next president. Pelosi and Pence were both safe. The attackers are being hunted down one by one and arrested. Trump has now been impeached for the second time, with 10 Republican members of Congress joining with every Democrat. Pence apparently contemplated the possibility of invoking the 25th Amendment (although he has now said he will not do so). The majority of Americans believe that Trump should be removed from office immediately for his treasonous behavior.
    After last week’s insurrection attempt, Trump is now trying to act as if nothing out of the ordinary happened. What is the big deal if some looters swarmed through the Capitol? As he has always done, Trump relies on lies, denials, conspiracy theories and fake bravado to skirt through life and through his presidency. But rhetoric and actions are observable truth. And Trump’s clear incitement of insurrection means he is a traitor. It means he disavowed the will of the people and the rule of law. It means his personal gain is more important than the Constitution and his oath of office.
    This all makes sense because Donald Trump is a psychopath. He is fueled by his narcissism, his sadism, his paranoia and his antisocial proclivities. We have been eager to ignore these things, but Trump’s sadism and violence have been front and center in his psyche the entire time. This is the man who separated young children from their families at the border. This is the man whose inaction has killed 372,000 Americans due to the coronavirus. This is the man who has tried to encourage violence multiple times at his campaign and presidential pep rallies. And this is the man who glorified violence in Charlottesville and in other cities.
    We should not be surprised that Trump’s sadism and violence boiled over in response to his humiliating election defeat. He has been hell-bent on hanging onto power at any cost. He has been willing to throw anyone and anything under the bus to ensure his self-preservation and his survival. So a violent insurrection in the sacred halls of the Capitol was the perfect plan in his mind. A few deaths would be palatable, even entirely acceptable, if it meant he could remain in power.
    What should now be clear to everyone is that Donald Trump does not love democracy or our country. He is an authoritarian. He wants absolute authority and control over people. He loves adulation. He is a greedy opportunist. He is a master of demagoguery. He is corrupt and criminal. He is a traitor of the highest order. He was virtually the worst possible person to become president because everything about him is antithetical to our nation’s principles and ideals. Being president is so much more than being rich. Personal character, love of democracy and love of country are far more compelling attributes.
    Trump is a cataclysmic problem that will be solved soon. He will be booted out, or simply leave. Social media platforms have banned him. Companies are halting their financial contributions to his party and his supporters. The PGA has pulled its 2022 championship tournament from his New Jersey golf course. More and more Americans are rejecting him by the day. His mantra as a traitor is beginning to take hold. Ultimately, it will be set in stone.
    Millions of supporters followed Trump for four years as if he were the pied piper. They did not realize or understand that he is a con man who thrives on hoodwinking and exploiting others. He lies every time he opens his mouth, and uses conspiracy theories and fear-mongering to seduce the allegiance of citizens who believe in him for various largely irrational reasons. Trump is no public servant, no brilliant businessman, no rich savant and no political leader. He is a fraud, a failure and a coward who ran for president in the first place to enhance his brand and make money off the public. Once in office, he became enthralled with power, adulation and grifting. He realized that being an authoritarian leader would allow him to express his sadistic and cruel tendencies — and that being a dictator would allow his racist and xenophobic and misogynistic impulses to run wild, without oversight or accountability. In the end, Trump decided that he wanted to remain in office so that he could establish an endless regime of Trumpism — all in his psychopathic image.
    Americans should have realized back in 2016 that Trump was a bad actor who had nefarious and cruel intentions. He did not want to protect and serve the people. The oath of office was a bunch of isolated words that had no meaning to him. It was all a big lie and a big con from the beginning. Trump believed he could pull it off because he had spent his entire life promulgating a kind of alternate universe, with the help of enablers and a host of lawyers.
    Trump’s lies, conspiracy theories, magical thinking and corruption rapidly became normalized in our country, such that millions of Americans were radicalized. Fantasy and blather became more important than truth. Trump’s alternate universe seemed to replace the real one. Our Constitution and the rule of law were corrupted. Our democracy was threatened. A psychopath was threatening democracy, and the media pretended not to notice. The opinions of mental health experts were rejected.
    Ultimately, the judicial system and our Constitution stood tall throughout this presidency. Elected Republican officials did not. They either drank the Kool-aid or saw loyalty to Trump as a vehicle for personal political advancement. Either way, the Republican Party has been complicit and anti-democratic. Some of its members, perhaps most of them, want to carry on the mantle of Trumpism despite its malicious and destructive impact on our democracy. They will face their reckoning in due time.
    Many of Trump’s supporters will have a rude awakening when they realize that their esteemed cult leader was nothing more than a fraud. Once they see him prosecuted for his many crimes, they will understand his destructiveness to them and to our democracy. Truth will again become important. We will all be able to agree on observable facts. Negotiation and compromise will once again be central to our politics. Tribalism will gradually melt away as our interest in unity and cohesiveness expands.
    Yet in many ways Trump has been a symptom rather than the sole cause of major divisions in our country. Racism, xenophobia, white supremacy, domestic terrorism, misogyny and other extreme forms of hate have been simmering in this country long before Trump. But these harmful and demoralizing issues will be easier to grapple with without a national leader who is psychopathic, anti-democratic and anti-American in his mental DNA.

  145. m0nty says:
    January 19, 2021 at 10:03 am

    1. Trump will be inaugurated for a 2nd term
    2. God is going to allow swift justice to come to uproot evil
    3. Military action is coming, but do not be fearful

    It does seem like the action on the 20th, if there is going to be any, is between factions of the police and National Guard. Trump has destroyed everyone nominally on his side one after the other, and the last group is likely to be his allies in blue and green.

    Far more likely is that there is no visible action beyond a few disorganised nutters.

  146. Tailgunner says:
    January 19, 2021 at 10:15 am

    Is anyone else still old enough to remember when Joe Biden had a broken foot for 24 hours?

  147. Snoopy says:
    January 19, 2021 at 10:18 am

    Tailgunner
    #3729565, posted on January 19, 2021 at 10:15 am
    Is anyone else still old enough to remember when Joe Biden had a broken foot for 24 hours?

    Foetal stem cells. There’s nothing they can’t do.

  149. Rex Anger says:
    January 19, 2021 at 10:46 am

    A Clinical Psychiatrist’s View, from The Bulletin –

    A PSYCHOPATHIC PRESIDENT’S LAST ACT:
    Alan D. Blotcky, Ph.D., clinical psychologist in Birmingham, Alabama, and Salon, January 14, 2021

    More Big Lies, Bobby boy?

    Are they any different to your claims about there being no lekshun frod, cos the courts said so?

  151. Tailgunner says:
    January 19, 2021 at 11:14 am

    https://twitter.com/RiseForFreedom/status/1351303055568994305?s=19

    11.3 is the first marker.
    But what if it isn’t a date but a section of the military legal code?

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