Pyrmonter on the stresses of COVID

I am often asked, “what can the government do to solve x problem?” My stock answer is, get out of the way. It’s not always right, but it’s often a good start.

So John ‘Grump Economist’ Cochrane concludes in a post excoriating the government measures delaying the roll-out of Covid vaccination in the US.

But, of course, we’ve been somewhere near here before: two decades ago and again more recently.

Undergraduates of my era met with the idea that that stresses brought change to sclerotic coalitions of interests: that is the centre of Mancur Olson’s Rise and Decline of Nations.  Are the stresses of Covid – an event Boris Johnson has described as the biggest crisis in his lifetime (born in 1964 ) – sufficient to overcome the Baptists (medical scientific establishment) and Bootleggers (incumbent pharmaceutical companies who gain from the absence of competition) sufficient to overcome this logjam?  I suppose we’ll know if the UK, US and we are able to move about freely by May.  I’m not optimistic.

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21 Responses to Pyrmonter on the stresses of COVID

  1. Albatross

    >thinking that this will be over after the vaccine
    lol

  2. The government will pretend that this will be over after the virus.

  3. Mak Siccar

    From today’s Australian.

    Next thing will be that these pr1cks will require proof of where entrants have travelled over the last few weeks.

    An utter disgrace.

    I wish I knew to which state I should relocate.

    Under the new system, those in the red zone will not be allowed to enter Victoria and will face a $4957 fine for doing so without a valid reason or exemption.

    Travellers in orange zones will have to take a coronavirus test within 72 hours of arriving in Victoria and will be required to isolate before and after the test until a negative result is received.

    Anyone visiting from a green zone will be allowed to enter Victoria.

  4. 2dogs

    I am often asked, “what can the government do to solve x problem?” My stock answer is, get out of the way. It’s not always right, but it’s often a good start.

    What is more right is to say: “Let the market decide” is generally the best answer to public policy questions that start with the word “Who”.

  5. C.L.

    an event Boris Johnson has described as the biggest crisis in his lifetime

    Even bigger than the unwanted baby he paid to have killed?
    —————-
    The foundational premise here – that a universally administered vaccine is necessary – is false. That’s where the state-created logjam originates. For markets to do what they’re more than capable of doing, the state should – as Cochrane says – get out of the way but in these specific senses:

    1. stop lying about the necessity of universality
    2. stop policing the physical autonomy and sovereignty of citizens
    3. stop threatening citizens with dire consequences for not taking a vaccine they don’t need

  6. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Pyrmonter – you are a banal self important statist numptie prone to posting apologia for all sorts of staggeringly stupid collectivist twats (BIRM), but that pompous, preposterous, narcissistic, morbidly obese neutered mop headed imbecile – seriously?

    If bat flu was anywhere as dangerous as it was trumpeted to be, that aforementioned idiot would now be long dead – and no one on the planet with a functioning brain would have given a rodent’s backside.

    FFS. Give it a rest.

  7. Albatross

    I’ll start getting hysterical about this when the people who say this is a deadly threat start acting like it is.

  8. Simple Simon

    we’ve been somewhere near here before: two decades ago and again more recently

    Indeed we have, and in more ways than one.

    It’s only little over a decade since an influenza vaccine, named Pandemrix, was rushed through and ended up causing what was described as an epidemic of narcolepsy, a debilitating lifelong disease.

    During the Swine Flu epidemic of 2009/10

    Another ‘epidemic’ in which the forecast deaths and disabilities did not eventuate.
    2020/21: epidemic panic? Check.

    the vaccine Pandemrix was given to … high-risk groups, including children, with asthma, diabetes and heart disease.

    The latter two are correlated with vulnerability to the current virus.
    2020/21: vulnerable groups? Check.
    2020/21: diabetes and heart disease? Check.

    The vaccine had been approved by the European Medicines Agency for use across the EU, despite minimal clinical trials.

    2020/21: vaccine approved? Check.
    2020/21: minimal clinical trials? Check.

    The manufacturer, GlaxoSmithKline, was given an indemnity by the UK government.

    2020/21: manufacturers given indemnity? Check.

    The UK Health Protection Agency (now Public Health England) undertook a major study of 4- to 18-year-olds and found that around one in every 55,000 jabs led to narcolepsy.

    That is to say, after the event the vaccine was found to cause serious adverse events.

    2020/21: ?

    Source for above quotes: https://www.narcolepsy.org.uk/resources/pandemrix-narcolepsy

    Too many Western governments have dug themselves in to a hole by portraying COVID-19 as far more deadly and dangerous than it actually is. They must know this by now. If they do not they are grossly irresponsible as the data and studies are available to them.

    However, they are loath to admit their (now multiple) errors, in part because their ‘lockdowns’ (a term not from medicine but from the US penal system) have caused so much damage and so much suffering that it would be political suicide to admit that it was all epidemiological nonsense, and in part also because a significant proportion of the general public has been affected to the point of neurosis by irresponsible media propaganda and sensationalism so that the politicians fear that if they try now to wind back they will be attacked for doing so by those so affected.

    These political pygmies see vaccines as their only way out of the hole that they have dug for themselves and us. It doesn’t matter whether the vaccines are medically necessary or even effective. All that matters to them is politicians getting out of their hole without admitting to have done anything wrong.

    Catallaxy Files of all places should not offer apologia for politically-driven vaccines that are unnecessary for most people, of dubious efficacy, and of unknown safety.

  9. Rafe Champion

    sufficient to overcome the Baptists (medical scientific establishment) and Bootleggers (incumbent pharmaceutical companies who gain from the absence of competition) sufficient to overcome this logjam? I’m not optimistic.
    +1
    If they do enough tests they can keep finding cases for ever.
    QED

    You can’t beat the Baptists and bootleggers combination – like Greens and RE carpetbaggers!

  10. Roger

    Ths post seems a bit half baked to me.

    A few lean paras with links attached isn’t up to par for “Australia’s leading libertarian and centre right blog”.

  11. Rafe Champion

    Roger I appreciate your point, it is good to meet high standards but still blogs are only a short remove from pub conversations and there is scope for short posts that provoke interesting discussion. I think there is more than enough meat there for that purpose, the Baptists and bootleggers point alone would do and there is more!

  12. C.L.

    I disagree, Roger.
    Pyrmonter is floating an important policy matter and inviting people to ‘unpack’ it (to use that annoying contemporary buzzword). Sometimes less is more.

  13. egg_

    FFS. Give it a rest.

    But, but… it gives him a boner!

  14. egg_

    Ths post seems a bit half baked to me.

    Risk management in the hands if the Nanny State – what could go wrong?!

    Note the variance between States!

  15. John Bayley

    @Simon #3720625:

    A round of applause, sir!
    Extremely well put.
    Now how do we get that truth out there?

    I do wonder sometimes why none of our ultra-wealthy individuals ever step forward and use a small portion of their money & influence toward countering the BS peddled by the mass & social media, and the damage it causes?

    Surely at least some of them must be intelligent enough, and not yet so utterly corrupt, to have some care left for their country?

  16. Up The Workers!

    You put your Leftard mask on,
    You take your Leftard mask off,
    You put your Leftard mask on,
    And you shake it all about.
    You do the Fauci Pokie,
    And you turn around;
    That’s what it’s all about!

    Oh the Fauci pokie,
    Oh the Fauci pokie,
    Oh the Fauci pokie,
    That’s what it’s all about!

  17. egg_

    All that matters to them is politicians getting out of their hole without admitting to have done anything wrong.

    Gummint risk management SNAFU?

    Quelle surprise!

  18. egg_

    A fortuitous bioeconomic weapon in the hands of the Globalists.

    Couf!

  19. egg_

    @Simon #3720625:

    A round of applause, sir!

    Amen!

    Without donning a mask or a bowtie!

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