“That’s the definition of fascism”

Fascism was socialism restricted to the confines of a single national state, compared with classical Marxism which was supposed to be international, as in “workers of the world unite” etc. This is from Instapundit.

THEY’RE POWERFUL. THEY’RE NOT NECESSARILY SMART, AND THEY’RE CERTAINLY NOT WISE:

Those who think they like this new censorship really need to step back and take the long view. Conspiracy theories about taking down Donald Trump will go on for 100 years. All of these efforts at suppression will be woven and rewoven into these theories. Driving the theories off the front pages of social media will make them wilder and crazier, and we won’t be able to see them or argue with them. How many millions of serious devotees does Trump have? What will they do now? Why is depriving them of their Twitter connection a wholesome curative?

When you have the leaders of business implementing the political agenda of a political party against its opposition, that’s the definition of fascism.

The corporate state as it is otherwise known. Not that it will do you much good to know the kind of political entity the United States has become, but it is nevertheless useful to know.

BTW go to the story at the link and then read the comments.

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32 Responses to “That’s the definition of fascism”

  1. Bruce

    Finally, someone who is beginning to “GET IT”.

  2. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Dark times ahead which the lamestream media will blame on the past administration. The world is in a very precarious position, the tipping point has been breached and only 10 days to the irreversible slide.

    Democratic socialism was never anything but a sham, a mirage to keep its marxist players in the game, a game they lost under Reagan and Thatcher. The march through the institutions has rendered law and order non-existent for the insiders and absolute for the remainder. The morals are those of the jungle.

    Elections are rigged and opponents are hunted down and bankrupted. This slide will continue invisible to the masses, whose birth rates have been trashed, and whose very existence over the long term is doubtful.

    Welcome to the slow and gradual decline of Western Civilisation.

  3. stackja

    USA founding fathers didn’t foresee the digital communication industry that could circumvent the Bill of Rights.

  4. Mother Lode

    What is most ridiculous is the number of these people who have been raised to say fascists are evil but who, even as they behave exactly like fascists, tell themselves it is OK because fascism is a right wing thing and they are left.

    It is a simple fact that the Nastis and the Soviets were almost indistinguishable compared to the Western allies yet these morons insist that liberal democracies are somewhere between fascism and communism (right and left) and every change they make is a step closer to fascism.

  5. Roger

    Fascism was socialism restricted to the confines of a single national state…

    Not exactly; that was a debate within orthodox Marxism (Trotskyism vs Leninism in the aftermath of the Revolution).

    Fascism is a form of national socialism that co-opts the business sector to its nationalist agenda rather than socialising – i.e. “nationalising” – its property outright. Business leaders get to retain their property and capital as long as they submit themselves to government edicts as to how they use it.

  6. Daily llama

    I often wonder if there’s a competition amongst some Cats to post links to the most ludicrous fascist websites. OANN is up there, as is gateway pundit, but in recent days they’ve fallen way behind. There are real dangerous nutters out there.
    A few months ago I read there were an estimated 400,000,000 guns in private hands in the US….THAT THEY KNOW OF, and still gun sales are booming.
    Zippy and Mother Lode both touch on it- we verge on madness and catastrophe. Russia and China are loving this. Unless someone miscalculates. Then we’re gone. All you grumpy Cats, all our kids, all of it. I keep saying it, I hope I’m wrong

  7. Roger

    The key difference between 1930s Fascism and what we’re seeing in the US & elsewhere now, I might add, is that the present movement is internationalist rather than nationalist in its outlook and globalist rather than localist in its economic interests.

  8. Cassie of Sydney

    ” There are real dangerous nutters out there.”

    Talking about yourself again.

  9. Cassie of Sydney

    “Mother Lode
    #3719975, posted on January 11, 2021 at 1:40 pm
    What is most ridiculous is the number of these people who have been raised to say fascists are evil but who, even as they behave exactly like fascists, tell themselves it is OK because fascism is a right wing thing and they are left.”

    Yes and these same people constantly make excuses for the crimes of communism over the last century…..they particularly like using the line “it wasn’t true communism” or “it wasn’t true socialism”.

  10. Rex Anger

    verge on madness and catastrophe. Russia and China are loving this. Unless someone miscalculates. Then we’re gone. All you grumpy Cats, all our kids, all of it. I keep saying it, I hope I’m wrong

    You sound more afraid of losing your precarious spot at the very far end of the trough, and not being able to dip your teaspoon in the crumbs with your fellow ‘Conservatives’ than of aocietal catastrophe, Spitter…

  11. Mother Lode

    they particularly like using the line “it wasn’t true communism” or “it wasn’t true socialism”.

    They always start out with the ‘true’ spirit and after the corpses have piled up high enough, when the only sort of traffic on the roads are the meandering bread queues, when the only colours that relieve the drab grey monotony are the propaganda posters boasting technological and architectural marvels promised years ago, and the last factory grinds to a halt for want of parts or money, then it was never ‘true’ socialism.

    Thing is ‘true’ communism and socialism seem eternally elusive. It is almost as if they are impossible. Almost like the mental confections of politics and critical studies students are not up to creating a vibrant functioning society based on undergraduate theories.

    Who would have thought?

  12. Boambee John

    The Demonrats have taken advantage of their “Reichstag fire” to threaten to close down everyone ever associated with the Trump administration who does not immediately engage in a public “struggle session” to atone for their errors. Then the Tech Giants have conducted a Kristallnacht to destroy “unsound” businesses. When will the Night of the Long Knives occur, with the murder of recalcitrants?

    And through all of this, the Demonrat supporters here screech “Look what you fascists made them do! They are being forced to institute fascism to save the nation from fascism”

  13. Colonel Crispin Berka

    “That’s the definition of fascism”

    Yes, and threatening violence for political gain is the definition of terrorism.
    About 95%+ of the rally stayed outside. The most fanatical people who made unauthorised rowdy entry to the Capitol are being labelled as terrorists and put on DHS No-Fly lists, as has just happened to some trying to leave D.C. & Maryland. Their surprise is perhaps due to being treated as terrorists by association without having threatened violence to anyone. Hard to say how much of this is fair or unfair without knowing specifics.

  14. Dot

    Okay Llama, get fucked.

    Gateway Pundit IS NOT a bloody fascist.

    You’re a snivelling left wing propagandist.

    Jim Hoft and Dwumpf are NOT fascists because they don’t agree with planned parenthood about the most “liberal” abortion policy or don’t want UBI.

    Fuck off.

  15. Watch Your Back

    ‘Okay Llama, get fucked”.

    Daily Llama
    AKA

    Milady La La

  16. wal1957

    Daily llama…

    I often wonder if there’s a competition amongst some Cats to post links to the most ludicrous fascist websites.

    I don’t think anybody here has linked to Antifa!

  17. Tel

    Battered wife syndrome … husband says, “Now look what you made me do!”

  18. Crossie

    The march through the institutions has rendered law and order non-existent for the insiders and absolute for the remainder. The morals are those of the jungle.

    Elections are rigged and opponents are hunted down and bankrupted. This slide will continue invisible to the masses, whose birth rates have been trashed, and whose very existence over the long term is doubtful.

    Welcome to the slow and gradual decline of Western Civilisation.

    This is also a classic road to a civil war. Once you leave people with nothing to lose you guarantee a real insurrection and not a staged one for the cameras.

  19. Visiting American

    When you have the President attempt to overturn the decision of the electors by any means including an assault on the Congress you have an attempt to install fascism. No embroidery will disguise what was done and the evidence will be heard publicly in a large number of prosecutions.

  20. Cardimona

    I smell a new sock.

    Hi, Grigs!

  21. JC

    When you have the President attempt to overturn the decision of the electors by any means including an assault on the Congress

    Post the exact quote or quotes where he made this specific request.

    Go!

  22. HD

    “When you have the President attempt to overturn the decision of the electors by any means including an assault on the Congress…evidence will be heard publicly in a large number of prosecutions.”

    Guess the alleged American hasn’t been following his’ own news:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/08/capitol-riot-trump-will-not-face-charges-for-inciting-mob-doj-says.html

    Can’t see Trump on the list:

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/thirteen-charged-federal-court-following-riot-united-states-capitol

  23. Faye

    The next 10 days will be momentous.

  24. Struth

    Impeaching Trump, these buggers want civil war.
    They believe all their enemy will be is sparodic, poorly organised groups of Baccy chewing rednecks they will easily crush and then use as an excuse to criminalize freedom loving patriotism and conservatism..

    By the way, are the left going to fight once in charge?
    The enemy are the elites and the pollies and media.
    There’s not that many of them.

  25. Daily llama

    You reap what you sow.

  26. Watch Your Back

    VA,

    Where did Trump say anything about ‘storming’ the Capitol, or violence? Show us please.

    I’ve watched his speech twice, and also read the transcript. He asks people to protest peaceably.

    As for the election results, the US should have an independent electoral commission to make sure there is no fraud. There should also be a forensic audit of the elections in the six states where counting was stopped. This would check for ballot stuffing, computer fraud, votes by non existent voters and multiple voting. If there was no fraud, the Democrats should agree to this to ‘unite the country’. But they won’t of course.

    The behaviour of the Democrats this past 4 and more years has been nothing short of a disgrace: spying on the Trump campaign, the Steele Dossier, the utter lies about Russian Collusion, Hillary Clinton’s illegal email server, the fake impeachment for which there were no grounds, the fomenting of riots, looting and arson, and now an accusation of incitement where there is not a shred of evidence. Along the way, there have been attempted murders of Republicans, constant misinformation by the media and censorship of opposing views by Big Tech who are now trying to close down Parler. Anyone who does not agree with the Party line is now a thought criminal. This is what Orwell warned against.

  27. Watch Your Back

    Milady La La,

    No, you get clobbered by what your enemies sow and the hysterical accusations they make. The Democrats have plotted and lied for over 4 years and have brought the country to a sorry pass. It’s going to get worse as they try to stamp out any and all opposing views.

    Abraham Lincoln said: ‘A house divided against itself cannot stand’. Well, the US has gone beyond that. All because Hilary Clinton lost, and was so arrogant she didn’t bother with electoral fraud on the necessary scale.

  28. Boambee John

    Crossie

    This is also a classic road to a civil war. Once you leave people with nothing to lose you guarantee a real insurrection and not a staged one for the cameras.

    The modern fascist left have forgotten (if they ever knew, it was before they were born) a slogan of their predecessors of the 1960s and 1970s.

    “When you’ve got nothing, you’ve got nothing to lose.”

    They are in the process of ensuring that the modern conservatives/classical liberals/libertarians have nothing to lose. Very stupid.

  29. Boambee John

    Visiting American
    #3720848, posted on January 11, 2021 at 10:53 pm
    When you have the President attempt to overturn the decision of the electors by any means including an assault on the Congress you have an attempt to install fascism.

    Can we assume that you can point us to your condemnation of the loser in 2016 attempting to overcome the decision of the electors using bogus documents and false submissions to the FISA Court? No? Sorry, I was only joking, off course you can’t.

  30. Eyrie

    Business leaders get to retain their property and capital as long as they submit themselves to government edicts as to how they use it.

    Just like Australia today.

  31. Armadillo:

    I’ve never been to the Q site, but apparently it’s down. Just like Twitter which was under $50 when I looked last night.

    Hahahaha! *snork*
    Good one, Centurion.

  32. John

    Fascism and Marxism seem to have settled their differences and merged. For example ANTIFA who act like the historical Black Shirts seem to be very Marxist.

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