Open Forum: January 16, 2021

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  1. calli says:

    Did he replace it with Stalin?

  2. calli says:

    Lol. Page podium!

  3. Tom says:

    Why would any American President have a bust of Churchill in his office?

    You idiot, Googleory. Great leaders in history who stand up for freedom have never been so thin on the ground — Donald Trump, for example.

    Because you are a public servant with a guaranteed six-figure salary who has no skin in the game, of course you don’t give a fuck about freedom.

    In fact, you ard the enemy of freedom.

  4. calli says:

    DrBeau, I can be immature too. And…loving it!

  5. Roger says:

    Stevie Ray was a white cracker (BIRM) who ‘culturally appropriated’ Jimi Hendrix. According to the wokerati.

    Stevie Ray & Jimi both did more to reconcile black and white Americans than any member of the wokerati, who only know how to stoke division.

  6. Terry Pedersen says:

    Paul Revere on horseback would make more sense.

  7. Tintarella di Luna says:

    I love being a grannie.

    . #MeToo

  8. Pedro the Loafer says:

    I just wrote a scathing email to CA via their website about their snivelling heathen ceremonies.

    It crashed.

    Quelle surprise.

  9. Delta A says:

    I love being a grannie.

    Oh, yes!

    Another favourite, incidental activity was charting and colouring the rainbow formed when the afternoon light hit a hanging cut glass ornament (present from a Grandie). Then, next day, we all went into the ‘scary dark place’ (our large walk-in robe) and covered a torch with different coloured cellophane.

    So much fun, with little effort, to craft memories that the girls still talk about today.

  10. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Paul Revere on horseback would make more sense.

    That would be a great idea. Paul Revere was a metallurgist, his copper company still operates today. Free market capitalism rocks. He also manufactured gunpowder, which was quite a good thing too.

  11. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    But Churchill is better as a head of state who won a world war against evil.
    And who was one of the first guys into Khartoum with the 21st Lancers.
    He experienced what the guys experience that the President must order to the front.

  12. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Why would any American President have a bust of Churchill in his office?”

    Why not? Many American presidents have admired Churchill…perhaps his great admirer was JFK…the Irish Catholic president.

  13. thefrollickingmole says:

    So Paul Revere was the original military industrial complex then?

    Another hero gone.

  14. Pedro the Loafer says:

    Paul Revere made cannons, gunpowder, railway spikes and was a renowned silversmith.

  15. calli says:

    Immaturity is vastly underrated.

  16. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “But Churchill is better as a head of state who won a world war against evil.”

    Yes he did and he was resolute….at the end sadly sidelined by Roosevelt and Stalin.

    I love the fact that Churchill was a flawed human being…..beset with depressions and anxieties.

    He also was one of the first in the British political class to call out Hitler for the thug he was…..when many in his class admired Nazism.

  17. vlad says:

    I have seen two companies in a row relying heavily on Google – for email, for documents that everyone can access etc.

    That never struck me as a smart move and if Google cancels Australia, it might prove a catastrophic one.

  18. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘I just wrote a scathing email to CA via their website about their snivelling heathen ceremonies.’

    Likewise, hoping as I did that they don’t cross check against other stuff.

  19. DrBeauGan says:

    DrBeau, I can be immature too. And…loving it!

    Maturity is a good thing if you’re a piece of cheese. Otherwise, not so much.

  20. Roger says:

    Lest it be forgotten on the previous page…

    Churchill’s mother was an American heiress and Churchill spent a lot of time in the country, writing at least one glowing travelogue extolling the nation’s virtues as a result.

  21. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Cricket Australia – the Gillette of 2021.

  22. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Revere also fired cannons, since he was an artillery colonel who saw action. But he was much more valued by Gen. Washington for producing stuff for other guys to shoot with, and from.

  23. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Maturity is a good thing if you’re a piece of cheese.

    Correlation between eating cheese and death by bedsheet entanglement.

    Steven Hayward’s Geek in Pictures is unmissable for we data junkies DrB:
    The Geek in Pictures: Biden Baseline Edition | Power Line (21 Jan)

  24. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    So much fun, with little effort, to craft memories that the girls still talk about today.

    It’s interesting how the simplest of things can become lifetime memes for a family.

    My sister’s adopted daughter from Sri Lanka spent a lot of time at our place with our daughter as a child and Hairy was like a father to her because Big Sis had long-divorced the fellow with whom she adopted the child, and he had totally withdrawn from the scene. After ten minutes of reading time in bed I’d send Hairy up to ‘turn off the lights’, and he’d chat to them a minute about their stories, and then go to the door, say goodnight, no more talking, and deliberately ‘forget’ to turn off the light. Uncle Hairy forgot to turn the lights off, our niece would peal out with laughter, so he’d act silly, go back in and turn off the light. It became a ritual whenever she stayed, and she always made her father’s day card for Uncle Hairy. Neither of the girls have ever forgotten this forgetfulness. Along with his terrible ‘dad’ jokes and Hairy Ape dancing, it’s embedded deep in family lore.

  25. Leigh Lowe says:

    That never struck me as a smart move and if Google cancels Australia, it might prove a catastrophic one.

    Yes, I don’t think Gongle have thought this through.
    Mind you, I think there is a sizeable minority who think Gongle is the only search engine available.

  26. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Churchill’s mother was an American heiress

    Churchill’s mother was an American heiress – one of two hundred or so, who crossed the Atlantic to “marry an English Lord” – exchanging American dollars for an English title.

  27. Arky says:

    feelthebern
    #3733543, posted on January 22, 2021 at 5:52 pm
    Stop being a fucking idiot arky.
    You’d be happy with a totalitarian regime as long has it’s conservative?

    ..
    Where’d you get that from?

  28. Diogenes says:

    Vlad, they are talking about turning off search, not Gmail or GSuite (or whatever they call it now). Mind you there are a lot of intranets and websites that use google search

  29. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    His current trick for the under-fives grandchildren is to go ‘beep’ whenever someone presses his nose.
    Brings the house down.
    My trick is being ‘butterfingers’ in ball throwing for anyone who is under-eight.
    ‘Butterfingers’ they call out in delight whenever it happens.

  30. Nick says:

    ‘I just wrote a scathing email to CA via their website about their snivelling heathen ceremonies.’

    I also told them I wouldn’t be buying any of their sponsors’ products and would inform their sponsors.

  31. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    That never struck me as a smart move and if Google cancels Australia, it might prove a catastrophic one.

    The irony is strong with Goolag.

    Google Seals Content Payment Deal With French News Publishers (21 Jan)

    PARIS (Reuters) – Google and a French publishers’ lobby said on Thursday they had agreed to a copyright framework for the U.S. tech giant to pay news publishers for content online, in a first for Europe.

    The move paves the way for individual licensing agreements for French publications, some of which have seen revenues drop with the rise of the Internet and declines in print circulation.

    The deal, which Google describes as a sustainable way to pay publishers, is likely to be closely watched by other platforms such as Facebook, a lawyer involved in the talks said.

    This the same day they threaten to cut off Australia because we suggest they might pay for Australian content. There’s hypocrisy and then there’s Goolag hypocrisy, which is in its own plane of existence.
    Sheesh.

  32. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “I also told them I wouldn’t be buying any of their sponsors’ products and would inform their sponsors.”

    That’s the way to go Nick…..do what the left do (Sleeping Midgets)…..go after their sponsors. The progressives do this all the time.

  33. Beertruk says:

    Delta A
    #3733576, posted on January 22, 2021 at 6:17 pm
    ‘Then, next day, we all went into the ‘scary dark place’ (our large walk-in robe) and covered a torch with different coloured cellophane….’

    The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe.
    C. S. Lewis

    (Hehehe… 🙂 )

  34. Terry Pedersen says:

    Churchill didn’t win any world wars, Bruce of Newcastle. His Gallipoli disaster is more that enough to disqualify his from any consideration as a statesman of note. Paul Revere is a better choice for statuary in any American President’s office.

  35. Arky says:

    In fact, you ard the enemy of freedom.

    ..
    No. I ard the enemy of freedom.
    Ask Bern.

  36. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Churchill’s mother was an American heiress – one of two hundred or so, who crossed the Atlantic to “marry an English Lord” – exchanging American dollars for an English title.

    I reviewed a book about this for Quadrant in 2019. It was called ‘The Husband Hunters: Social Climbing in London and New York” by Anne de Courcy.
    A lot of fun stories about Cash for Coronets in it during the Gilded Era of aristocratic financial decline in Europe and Capitalist Barons lording it in the US and needing a title to make it big in New York society.

    ‘Like catnip for Downton fans’, said another reviewer. 🙂

  37. Delta A says:

    I also told them I wouldn’t be buying any of their sponsors’ products and would inform their sponsors.

    Well done.

    I mentioned plummeting ratings since players ‘taking the knee’ at Superbowl and warned, go woke, go broke. Yes, p**s of you base enough and it could happen to you, CA.

  38. Nick says:

    That’s the way to go Nick…..do what the left do (Sleeping Midgets)…..go after their sponsors. The progressives do this all the time.

    I figured that if it works for them……

  39. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Ahahahaa. Chortle:

    ‘Steve Smith has been released from his rich $2.5 million contract by Indian Premier League outfit Rajasthan Royals ahead of this year’s April competition.

    ‘Smith was among a number of Aussie imports to be axed by their IPL teams ahead of the upcoming auctions in February.’

    ‘Smith has a long-standing relationship with the Royals, captaining them first in 2015 before assuming the role again in 2019. With Rajasthan finishing last in the eight-team competition in 2020, Smith’s position fell under scrutiny, as he finished the IPL season with 311 runs for an average of 25.91.’

    To be fair, Finch (who’s had a Burns-esque season himself) and Glenn Maxwell also got the arse, but this will make the mentally malleable cheat about as stable as a Swarovski champagne flute balanced on a speaker at a Metallica concert.

  40. Woolfe says:

    Waves to non existent crowd, mutters salute the marines. This is embarrassing

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21BU0YK0cO4&feature=emb_logo

  41. Arky says:

    ‘I just wrote a scathing email to CA via their website about their snivelling heathen ceremonies.’

    ..
    You don’t understand.
    To the leftist, any sporting organisation they take over is like the Morris Oxford some boys I knew bought off an old lady for $50.
    Despite assuring her they would give in a good home, their real intention was to take it down to the river and torture it for an afternoon of fun, then leave it with a brick on the accelerator.
    In this cricket business, the left are my vandal friends, the Morris Oxford is the game of cricket, and you are the naive old lady.

  42. Nick says:

    but this will make the mentally malleable cheat about as stable as a Swarovski champagne flute balanced on a speaker at a Metallica concert.

    Lol

  43. Delta A says:

    The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe.

    Yes, Beertruk! We played that game, too.

    And Wind in the Willows: granddaughter was Moley, I was Ratty and Best man, Badger. Unca Steve was Toad (toot toot), bless him.

  44. thefrollickingmole says:

    His Gallipoli disaster is more that enough to disqualify his from any consideration as a statesman of note.

    Yes, far better to have used then advancing slightly knees bent into machine gun fire on the Western front.

    Idiot.

  45. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘Paul Revere is a better choice for statuary in any American President’s office.’

    Revere was a Frenchman, and a Scottish freemason. Also a white male colonial oppressor.

    Disqualified.

  46. Roger says:

    Churchill’s mother was an American heiress – one of two hundred or so, who crossed the Atlantic to “marry an English Lord” – exchanging American dollars for an English title.

    There must be a period drama TV show in there somewhere.

  47. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    I reviewed a book about this for Quadrant in 2019. It was called ‘The Husband Hunters: Social Climbing in London and New York” by Anne de Courcy.

    Cite you the example of the newly wed American bride, who entered the English stately home for the first time, to discover a portrait of her husbands current mistress over the fireplace – the notorious Lady Campbell – depicted nude.

  48. Terry Pedersen says:

    No players took the knee at the Superbowl.

  49. Tom says:

    Who needs Monty when there is an endless supply of Googleory wrongology?

  50. Knuckle Dragger says:

    The BOM’s conceded.

    There will be no cyclone making landfall on the WA coast. Not today, anyway.

    Interns at TV stations all over the country are right now digging in the archives looking for bushfire footage.

  51. Roger says:

    His Gallipoli disaster is more that enough to disqualify his from any consideration as a statesman of note.

    If every great man were judged by his failures rather than his achievements history would be very dull.

    Yes, Churchill was flawed and made mistakes. Who isn’t/hasn’t?

    Thankfully, most of us don’t do so on a world historical stage.

  52. Arky says:

    The progressive left most especially relish taking over any mainstream cultural institution that the beer swilling racist biggotty masses enjoy.
    From Doctor Who to James Bond from cricket to rugby union.
    Their glee as they imagine the regular punter imbibing a beer and preparing to relax with their favourite brain dead pass time but instead having gay kisses or the latest race politics bash them in the eye must be a real pisser among the cultural elite.

  53. Top Ender says:

    Churchill … Gallipoli disaster

    If Churchill’s idea had come off – and it nearly did in several ways – the the Great War might have been half the length, and half the fatalities.

    Worthy trying for.

  54. Arky says:

    Imagine what today’s cultural Marxists could have done with Benny Hill if he were still around and they had the producer gig.

  55. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    His (sic) Gallipoli disaster is more that enough to disqualify his from any consideration as a statesman of note.

    Bullshit. Others – Kitchener for one, Asquith for another – bore far more of the responsibility for the failure of the land offensive at Gallipoli then Churchill.

  56. calli says:

    Every wardrobe deserves a tap or two.

    You never know… 😀

  57. vlad says:

    Vlad, they are talking about turning off search, not Gmail or GSuite (or whatever they call it now).

    Thanks, Diogenes. I still wouldn’t advise any Australian small to medium business to be heavily reliant on, eg, Google Docs.

  58. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘His Gallipoli disaster is more that enough to disqualify his from any consideration as a statesman of note.’

    Hmmm.

    Julius Caesar’s loss in an 85BC civil war and his capture by pirates is more than enough to disqualify him from any consideration as a statesman of note.

    Stalin’s early career as a capitalist bank robber is more than enough to disqualify him from any consideration as a communist leader of note.

    Nikola Tesla’s failure to receive a degree after studying engineering and physics in the 1870s is more than enough to disqualify him from any consideration as an inventor of note.

  59. 1735099 says:

    One who loves freedom, and understands the cost.

    For the British only, not for the lesser breeds outside the law.
    “Australians”, he told Lord Moran, “come of bad stock”.
    It was OK for them to be used as cannon fodder.
    And he had some ideas about a Commonwealth of Europe.

  60. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘Imagine what today’s cultural Marxists could have done with Benny Hill if he were still around and they had the producer gig.’

    At least Kenny Everett was on the other bus.

  61. Arky says:

    We should take over their pass times.
    See how they like opera with V8 burnouts or art galleries with Mexican waves and topless chicks.

  62. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘For the British only, not for the lesser breeds outside the law.’

    Stand by for another three hours of Potato Famine genocide fables.

  63. vlad says:

    Imagine what today’s cultural Marxists could have done with Benny Hill if he were still around and they had the producer gig.

    Benny Hill lived long enough to encounter the ire of the woke – Ben Elton in particular.

    Benny Hill will be remembered when Ben Elton – come to think of it, who was Ben Elton? I know I’ve heard the name.

  64. Megan says:

    Granniehood is a fantastic opportunity to make life time memories for those little people to carry into their future. Mine taught me to make scones as a 4yo which I still do today and think of her every time I cut out the perfect dough circles. She’s been gone 45 years but still lives in those memories she gave us as kids. And if you’re listening Granny, I still know the difference between English and French lavender.

  65. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Churchill didn’t win any world wars, Bruce of Newcastle.

    I can’t help notice you didn’t write that in German. Or Japanese.

  66. thefrollickingmole says:

    Imagine what today’s cultural Marxists could have done with Benny Hill if he were still around and they had the producer gig.

    No need, Benny was woked before it was even a term.

    Ben Elton was the flogbag who kicked it off.
    From wiki.

    The alternative comedian Ben Elton made a headline-grabbing allegation, both on the TV show Saturday Live and in the pages of Q magazine (in its January 1987 issue), that The Benny Hill Show was single-handedly responsible for the incidences of rape in England during the period in question, and also suggested the programme incited other acts of violence against women.[14] A writer in The Independent newspaper, though, opined that Elton’s assault was “like watching an elderly uncle being kicked to death by young thugs”.[15] Elton later claimed his comment was taken out of context, and he appeared in a parody for Harry Enfield & Chums, Benny Elton, where Elton ends up being chased by angry women, accompanied by the “Yakety Sax” theme, after trying to force them to be more feminist rather than letting them make their own decisions.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32ZQrpbBpsE

  67. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘I can’t help notice you didn’t write that in German. Or Japanese.’

    Bam.

  68. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    what a cretin

    Joe Biden removed Donald Trump’s bust of Winston Churchill on his first day as President, replacing it with Cesar Chavez.

  69. Steve trickler says:

    The latest chapter in this ongoing series.

    Chillingly accurate.

    Singularity | Dystopian Sci-Fi Short Film

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36F-OUONu_A

  70. Terry Pedersen says:

    His (sic) Gallipoli disaster is more that enough to disqualify his from

    Fully sic, Zero Kilos No Alphas. If you are going to be picky about typos, make sure you don’t make any yourself.

  71. Woolfe #3733643, posted on January 22, 2021 at 6:52 pm
    Waves to non existent crowd, mutters salute the marines. This is embarrassing

    Had either Trump or Bush done this, the “haw haw how stoopid is Trump/Bush” memes would still be all over the internet.

    Why is Sleepy Joe any different?
    Stand by for Four Years of this. Sleepy Joe has always been far more gaffe-prone than Obama, Bush & Sarah Hanson-Young combined.

  72. Arky says:

    No need, Benny was woked before it was even a term.

    ..
    Kid’s stuff.
    Today’s cultural Marxists would not stand on the sideline and criticise The Benny Hill Show.
    They’d take it over and turn it into the opposite of what it is.
    The New Benny Hill Show would feature long monologues about female empowerment and a final chase scene where the chicks refuse to chase anyone and instead organise a celebration of abortion.

  73. thefrollickingmole says:

    For the British only, not for the lesser breeds outside the law.

    They would be the tribals, many still practicing slavery and other forms of barbarism.
    Hey, as long as its only brown people enslaving other brown people Wang is fine with it.

  74. Bruce O’Newk:

    But Churchill is better as a head of state who won a world war against evil.
    And who was one of the first guys into Khartoum with the 21st Lancers.
    He experienced what the guys experience that the President must order to the front.

    Did he not, after the Dardanelles Campaign spend nearly two years in the trenches as a Captain, when those of that rank had a life expectancy of less than a month?
    The man had balls, and they weren’t just decorative, which is a bloody sight more than O’Bama…

  75. thefrollickingmole says:

    The New Benny Hill Show would feature long monologues about female empowerment and a final chase scene where the chicks refuse to chase anyone and instead organise a celebration of abortion.

    You ever seen an early ben Elton standup show?

    Thatcher was the first Trump.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nh8qmeDp_0

  76. thefrollickingmole says:

    that The Benny Hill Show was single-handedly responsible for the incidences of rape in England during the period in question

  77. Top Ender says:

    Hmmm…..

    Churchill didn’t win any world wars

    Kraut:
    Churchill hat keine Weltkriege gewonnen

    Jap:
    Chāchiru wa sekai taisen ni kachimasendeshita

    Nope. Doesn’t have the same ring.

    Anyway, Churchill did win a world war.

  78. Crossie says:

    Which idiot at Sky News thought a talk show anchored by Nicholas Reece and Rita Panahi? Rita yes, Nicholas no way. I will not be watching which is a shame for Rita but I don’t need the aggro.

    They tried this sort of odd pairing with Credlin and Kristina Keneally and it didn’t work, Credlin on her own has a much better show.

    More about Reece, he had a show of his own a while back and nobody watched. I can’t even stand watching him when he is a panelist on other shows. He can go to Ten and the Project where he belongs.

  79. areff says:

    Which idiot at Sky News thought a talk show anchored by Nicholas Reece

    Just assume he’s sleeping with Lachlan

  80. K2 says:

    A mate of mine; born, bred and still resident in Geelong married a Benny Hill Girl. I kid you not. She was also in a movie with Oliver Reed and Glenda Jackson. Some high school rebellion thing.

  81. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Winston – In my spare room I’ve the six volume set of the History of WW2 by Winston L. S. Churchill, given me by a relation, who also left me most of Long and all of Bean. I may need to live to ninety to read them all since I keep getting distracted. The first vol of Long already has a red wine stain from an accident. Currently reading a Christopher Nuttall series, which is great fun.

  82. Top Ender:

    If Churchill’s idea had come off – and it nearly did in several ways – the the Great War might have been half the length, and half the fatalities.

    Just looking at a map would help TP to understand the pivotal role the Dardanelles campaign would have had, had it been executed well.
    But it wasn’t and TP, who isn’t worth the crimped end of one of Churchills batmans bootlaces, stands in mockery of one of the 20th Centuries greatest figures.

  83. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘incidences’

    Seriously. This would have to be the worst, and more importantly the most misused word in the language.

    I don’t go all word Nazi as a rule, but this travesty of a word’s up there with ‘moreish.’ Straight to the chipper.

  84. Crossie says:

    Benny Hill was truly funny, from the signature chase at the end of the show to his hit song about Ernie who drove the fastest milk cart in the West.

    There are no funny shows today, wokeness has killed comedy.

  85. Roger says:

    Joe Biden removed Donald Trump’s bust of Winston Churchill on his first day as President, replacing it with Cesar Chavez.

    Cesar was at least a faithful Catholic, unlike Joe.

    He also refused to enrich himself via his public role.

  86. Terry Pedersen says:

    ‘I can’t help notice you didn’t write that in German. Or Japanese.’

    Preferred American, or Canadian, or Australian. Could have said it in French and Russian too. Any other allies involved in winning those World Wars?

    Come to think of it maybe a bust of David Ben-Gurion would be better than Paul Revere.

  87. incoherent rambler says:

    Stand by for Four Years of this.

    No. He is emperor for life!

  88. areff says:

    He also refused to enrich himself via his public role.

    Also a big supporter of border controls, because the Rio Grande swimmers were taking the bread out of his members’ mouths.

    The drooling old fool wouldn’t know that of course.

  89. Arky:

    See how they like opera with V8 burnouts or art galleries with Mexican waves and topless chicks.

    You are an ideas man, Arky. I can see that, and I respect your endeavors.
    Please post some pictures of the above.
    Don’t bother with the cars and waves – I’ve see them.
    The feminine jigglers and bobblers are what will get the crowds in.

  90. Leigh Lowe says:

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3733661, posted on January 22, 2021 at 7:01 pm

    The BOM’s conceded.

    There will be no cyclone making landfall on the WA coast. Not today, anyway.

    Channel Nein couldn’t let go of the “C” word.
    Called it a “wannabe cyclone”.
    No.
    It is a low pressure system with a bit of added rain.

  91. incoherent rambler says:

    emperor for life!

    i.e. about 2 months

  92. Barry says:

    Biden’s new office bust Cesar Chavez:

    Viewed illegal immigrants as a major source of strike-breakers, so he pushed a campaign against illegal immigration into the U.S., which generated violence along the U.S.-Mexico border

    Hypocrisy or ignorance?

  93. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘one of the 20th Centuries greatest figures.’

    Someone here the other day, possibly Rex, mentioned the gusto in which senior military staff officers and commanders were replaced by every major army in the early years of WW2.

    This is because in peacetime, or in any other time except that of absolute crisis you can afford to have ineffective dilettantes running the show. The actual leaders are buried by jealousy and mates’ clubs three or four rungs below.

    Come that time of crisis though – a real, genuine potentially nation-subjugating time of crisis – you can’t afford to waste time with posturing, flashy inefficient talentless bullshit, so the flogs displaying those characteristics were sacked pronto which allowed proper leaders to come through and stay there until the job got done.

    Monash. Blamey. Eisenhower. Vandervoort. Cota. Patton. Moore. Vasey. Leclerc. Winters, at a lower level. All displaced shit leadership and stayed at the top – for the duration of the crisis. As did Churchill, ejected once his leadership was no longer needed and his country unconquered.

  94. Roger says:

    Also a big supporter of border controls, because the Rio Grande swimmers were taking the bread out of his members’ mouths.

    A patriotic American.

    Something Biden also struggles to understand.

  95. Bruce in WA says:

    Preferred American, or Canadian, or Australian.

    All English, of course.

  96. incoherent rambler says:

    Blamey was a dick.

  97. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘Joe Biden removed Donald Trump’s bust of Winston Churchill on his first day as President, replacing it with Cesar Chavez.’

    Chavez probably didn’t eulogise the Grand Wizard of the KKK at his funeral though.

  98. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Come to think of it maybe a bust of David Ben-Gurion would be better than Paul Revere.

    That’s not a bad idea either.
    Abraham Accords.
    No way Joe would have a bust of Ben-Gurion in the Oval Office, nor one of Capt. B. Netanyahu.

  99. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘Blamey was a dick.’

    Undoubtedly bern. His Koitaki speech should have had him fed to the crocs in the nearest river. And he didn’t cover himself in glory in WW2, which I referenced, but he certainly did in the Great War when he came from nowhere to become Monash’s chief staffie.

    I know people who know Shane Warne, and they all think he’s one of the world’s great cockheads. But cockhead or not you can’t take his demonstrated result away from him.

    I don’t care if they’re loathsome humans or not. I do care if they have the nous to get the job done when times are at their absolute worst.

  100. Knuckle Dragger says:

    *results*

  101. Roger says:

    Biden’s new office bust Cesar Chavez:

    Viewed illegal immigrants as a major source of strike-breakers, so he pushed a campaign against illegal immigration into the U.S., which generated violence along the U.S.-Mexico border

    Hypocrisy or ignorance?

    Pure political calculation.

    Biden is trying to borrow Cesar’s glory.

    He knows the number of Hispanics who voted Trump.

  102. miltonf says:

    Robert Kennedy sucked up to Chavez. Allowed him to pretend to be a gritty man of the people.

  103. Terry Pedersen says:

    Preferred American, or Canadian, or Australian.

    All English, of course.

    Languages? Of course, but Americans, Canadians and Australians are not actually English. The exception being some West Australians, and a lesser number of South Australians. And the French and Russians; they are not English either.

    Should have mentioned New Zealanders also, but they seem to speak some sort of highland derivative.

  104. Some History says:

    Laptop repair shop owner at center of Hunter Biden scandal reveals everything

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMLnHlBe-ic

  105. Rafe Champion says:

    Lightning fast pivot by Biden on Israel. Very nasty optics. Who is pushing that, given the strong Jewish support for the Dems in the US?

  106. Bruce O’Newk:

    The first vol of Long already has a red wine stain from an accident. Currently reading a Christopher Nuttall series, which is great fun.

    I cannot think of a more fitting stain for one of WCs books. Unless it’s a French wine stain – but no, I just cannot imagine you reading with a glass of French Bordeaux.
    Nuttals series of “Outside Context Problems” are excellent. I think I have about 40 of his books. The “Ark Royal” series is also very good.

  107. miltonf says:

    It’s interesting to research some of these congress cockroaches. Another exhibit-
    William Richard Keating (born September 6, 1952) is an American politician serving as the U.S. Representative for Massachusetts’s 9th congressional district since 2013. A member of the Democratic Party, he first entered Congress in 2011, representing Massachusetts’s 10th congressional district until redistricting. Keating’s district currently includes Cape Cod and most of the South Coast. He raised his profile advocating for criminal justice issues in both houses of the Massachusetts General Court (1977–1999) before becoming District Attorney (DA) of Norfolk County where he served three terms prior to his congressional tenure.

  108. Bruce in WA says:

    Languages? Of course, but Americans, Canadians and Australians are not actually English.

    No shit, Sherlock. We were talking about the language. And many Canadians can’t speak English, which I should have noted. As for Kiwis

  109. Terry Pedersen says:

    Dresden? Anyone? Or Coventry?

  110. Roger says:

    Dresden? Anyone? Or Coventry?

    Look…over there!

  111. Boambee John says:

    Terry Pedersen
    #3733553, posted on January 22, 2021 at 6:01 pm
    Biden has removed the bust of Churchill from his office.

    Why would any American President have a bust of Churchill in his office?

    Ask FDR.

    PS, Churchill had American family.

  112. Roger:

    Joe Biden removed Donald Trump’s bust of Winston Churchill on his first day as President, replacing it with Cesar Chavez.

    That would have been a staffers suggestion, Roger. Bidet probably thinks it is and has probably been told, it is a stylised sculpture of himself at the age of 23.
    And it would be a sop to the Latino vote. Just like “Despacito”.
    Bidet doesn’t even wipe his arse without his advisors having input.

  113. Nick says:

    Lol of course

    Wallabies great David Pocock has warned “we’re cooked” if the professional sporting world does not act on its moral obligation to combat the rapidly accelerating climate crisis.

    The retired 83-Test Australian flanker and outspoken environmental activist is one of several high-profile athletes contributing to a new podcast examining the uneasy relationship between sport and climate change.

  114. K2 says:

    It’s like people that believe they have seen a better footballer than Gary Ablett. It makes you cringe.

  115. Terry Pedersen says:

    We were talking about the language. And many Canadians can’t speak English, which I should have noted.

    Untrue. I was talking about the language. You were trying to infer Englishness. And all Canadians can speak English; many of them, especially in the eastern provinces, also speak French or Indian or Vietnamese.

  116. Roger says:

    Robert Kennedy sucked up to Chavez. Allowed him to pretend to be a gritty man of the people.

    Maybe so, but we should wish for labour leaders of Chavez’s calibre and worldview today.

  117. Boambee John says:

    TP

    His Gallipoli disaster is more that enough to disqualify his from any consideration as a statesman of note.

    Very narrow view even of WW I. He previously pushed changes in the RN which had it redy for action in August, such that a simple signal sent the whole machine into action. And only a churl would dismiss his contribution to victory in WW II.

  118. Zyconoclast says:

    White girls can’t run. 🙂

    https://youtu.be/F_L6d94mAMc

    Black girls can’t run either

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOQfyIhv9GM

  119. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Nuttals series of “Outside Context Problems” are excellent.

    Have read about three of those. Good stuff. This one is A Learning Experience #3.
    I’ve 18 of 22 volumes of Long. Much red wine is expected, if God gives me the years to get to them all.
    I read history too slowly.

  120. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    He previously pushed changes in the RN which had it redy for action in August, such that a simple signal sent the whole machine into acti

    Supposed to have been responsible for the change from coal as fuel, to oil.

  121. Terry Pedersen says:

    Dresden? Anyone? Or Coventry?

    Look…over there!

    Over where? The subject of discussion is whether Churchill is recognizable as a statesman worthy of having a bust in an American President’s office. The firebombing of Dresden and allowing the bombing of Coventry are legitimate topics pertinent to the discussion. Do try to keep up.

  122. Boambee John says:

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #3733696, posted on January 22, 2021 at 7:23 pm
    what a cretin

    Joe Biden removed Donald Trump’s bust of Winston Churchill on his first day as President, replacing it with Cesar Chavez.

    More of a cretin than you might think. Cesar Chavez was adamantly against illegal immigration from south of the border. It took way the job security of his unionised workers,

  123. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Ok genius, tell us how you would’ve defeated Hitler then.

  124. Roger says:

    Over where? The subject of discussion is whether Churchill is recognizable as a statesman worthy of having a bust in an American President’s office. The firebombing of Dresden and allowing the bombing of Coventry are legitimate topics pertinent to the discussion. Do try to keep up.

    Look into the historical recoreds and then get back to me, won’t you?

    That’s a good chap.

  125. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘legitimate topics’

    Spikkin ze Deutsch? Nein?

    Done and dusted.

  126. Boambee John says:

    Winston

    Did he not, after the Dardanelles Campaign spend nearly two years in the trenches as a Captain, when those of that rank had a life expectancy of less than a month?

    IIRC, he commanded a Scottish battalion, as a major.

  127. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Terry Pedersen
    #3733759, posted on January 22, 2021 at 8:24 pm
    Dresden? Anyone? Or Coventry?”

    Hmm…a reader of David Irving are you?

  128. Roger says:

    *records

    Darn’d sticky keyboad; I really must replace it.

  129. Nick says:

    Over where? The subject of discussion is whether Churchill is recognizable as a statesman worthy of having a bust in an American President’s office. The firebombing of Dresden and allowing the bombing of Coventry are legitimate topics pertinent to the discussion. Do try to keep up.

    Yeah, in the highest office of the nation who dropped two atomic bombs. You were saying ?

  130. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Peter Terrysen’s the sort of statesman who’d cancel Overlord because local water carrying chicks on the Cotentin Peninsula might be inconvenienced.

  131. Zyconoclast says:

    So it’s all cool.
    (Also note the timing of the reports release. Late Friday before Australia Day)
    Gladbags appears to be coated in Dan Andrews industrial grade Teflon.

    NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian’s office broke the law when it shredded documents relating to a $250 million grants scheme.

    A State Archives and Records Authority report, released on Friday afternoon, found the monitoring of records and management in the office of the Premier was “insufficient”, but did not establish that the disposal of the documents occurred under “explicit instruction” by any member of staff.

    “This report makes it clear that the Premier’s office repeatedly broke the law by illegally destroying important state records,” Mr Shoebridge said.

  132. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Oh and without inciting the Germans to use nerve gas, which they had a very large chemical industry ready and able to produce.

  133. Boambee John says:

    Come to think of it maybe a bust of David Ben-Gurion would be better than Paul Revere.

    Hell would freeze over before a Demonrat president would do such a thing.

  134. Gab says:

    Oh no, not another Churchill was evil thread of doom. That one’s been done to death.

  135. K2 says:

    The Dresden bombing was fake news, Terry. Kind of like how things are presently. Fake.

    If it wasn’t Pearls and Swine, I would shoot you a link.

  136. Boambee John says:

    Of course, but Americans, Canadians and Australians are not actually English.

    About 50% of the Canadian Expeditionary Force in WW I were British born. Well under their proportion of the population were French-Canadians.

  137. Zyconoclast says:

    Twiggy Forrest’s Fortescue targets zero-carbon steel to phase out coal

    Billionaire Fortescue Metals Group chairman Andrew “Twiggy” Forrest says the time is right for Australia to develop a green steel-making industry, harnessing the country’s abundant iron ore resources and using zero-emissions energy technology to substitute coal.

    Dr Forrest said Fortescue, the iron ore mining company he founded 18 years ago, was aiming to begin construction of the country’s first green-steel pilot plant later this year and a commercial plant in the “next few years”.

    “ Billionaire Fortescue Metals Group chairman Andrew “Twiggy” Forrest says the time is right for Australia to develop a green steel-making industry, harnessing the country’s abundant iron ore resources and using zero-emissions energy technology to substitute coal.

    Dr Forrest said Fortescue, the iron ore mining company he founded 18 years ago, was aiming to begin construction of the country’s first green-steel pilot plant later this year and a commercial plant in the “next few years”.

  138. Nick says:

    Minister for Population, Cities and Urban Infrastructure Alan Tudge is changing visa rules for migrants wanting to run a business in Australia.
    New federal Education Minister Alan Tudge says an effective vaccine will “make a big difference” to the ability to bring in a large number of students

    Good to see the Government is worried about the most important things.

  139. Terry Pedersen says:

    PS, Churchill had American family.

    Boris Johnson was born in Manhattan and is an American citizen. Does that qualify him to have his bust in the office of an American President?

  140. Nick says:

    Yes. He’s defeated both the French and the Germans 🙂

  141. Top Ender says:

    At least I live in Darwin. However, I would rather live in a town call Churchill:

    There are 6 places named Churchill in America.

    There are 6 places named Churchill in United Kingdom.

    There are 2 places named Churchill in Canada.

    There are 2 places named Churchill in Australia.

    There is one place named Churchill in New Zealand.

    There is one place named Churchill in Switzerland.

    Any day now Chairman Dan will rename Victoria. Probably Danistan of course.

  142. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Dr Forrest said Fortescue, the iron ore mining company he founded 18 years ago, was aiming to begin construction of the country’s first green-steel pilot plant later this year and a commercial plant in the “next few years”.

    Haha, I believe BHP has one of those sitting somewhere in the West Australian desert. Maybe Twiggy could get it running again? Worked almost as well as Twiggy’s nickel plant,

  143. Neil says:

    About 50% of the Canadian Expeditionary Force in WW I were British born.

    Just out of interest i recently found out the highest ranking Canadian Officer to be killed in WW2 was a Brit.

    Apparently he was mad. He died leading Canadian troops in Hong Kong. Took a pistol in each hand and told his troops he may not be back. Took on the Japanese army by himself. He did not last long. The Japanese were so impressed with his bravery/stupidity they gave him a full military funeral

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_K._Lawson#Battle_of_Hong_Kong

  144. notafan says:

    That’s weak as trolling grig.

  145. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Look.

    If there’s going to be a bust of anyone in the White House, a Latino, and with a handle on immigration as well, then there’s only one realistic choice.

    Tony Montana.

  146. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    IIRC, he commanded a Scottish battalion, as a major.

    He commanded a battalion of the Royal Scots Fusileers, as a Lieutenant Colonel. Apparently his baggage – well over the regulation 35 pounds – included a patent bath, with it’s own heating system.

  147. Nick says:

    Lol I agree Nota

  148. Churchill didn’t win a World War

    Indisputably he did not lose a world war.
    This may be some guide to those who’re confused.

  149. Terry Pedersen says:

    He previously pushed changes in the RN which had it redy for action in August, such that a simple signal sent the whole machine into acti

    Supposed to have been responsible for the change from coal as fuel, to oil.

    Make smoke, Mister Boambee.

  150. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Boris Johnson was born in Manhattan and is an American citizen. Does that qualify him to have his bust in the office of an American President?

    Nothing wrong with that except Boris’s procreational organs seem captured by a green. His delivery of Brexit, however imperfect, is worth a bust though.

  151. Geriatric Mayfly says:

    Billionaire Fortescue Metals Group chairman Andrew “Twiggy” Forrest says the time is right for Australia to develop a green steel-making industry,

    So no processing then? No fiery furnaces. No milling. Sounds highly productive.

  152. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Terry Pedersen”

    Mr Pederson is clearly a fan of David Irving.

  153. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘a green steel-making industry’

    I thought we had enough gravel pits.

  154. He commanded a battalion of the Royal Scots Fusileers, as a Lieutenant Colonel.

    That is my understanding. Furthermore it was a few months, rather than two years, however those few months were full-on fair dinkum front line service on the Western Front.

  155. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Busts don’t extend as far as procreational organs, btw.

  156. Boambee John says:

    Terry Pedersen
    #3733797, posted on January 22, 2021 at 8:59 pm
    PS, Churchill had American family.

    Boris Johnson was born in Manhattan and is an American citizen. Does that qualify him to have his bust in the office of an American President?

    You seem to have skipped over the first part of my comment, about FDR.

    Try harder.

  157. Dresden, Coventry… blah blah blah

    Quickly, when it comes to total war, what is the prize for Second place?

  158. Dr Faustus says:

    I assumed the National Guard was in Washington to protect the Inauguration on January 20.

    Apparently they are there indefinitely to protect Congress.

    Naturally:

    Thousands of National Guardsmen in DC who are working 12-hour shifts to protect the nation’s capitol were told to vacate congressional grounds and take their breaks in a nearby parking garage…

    The Swamp fucking hates the proles.

  159. William Phillips says:

    Top Ender
    #3733670, posted on January 22, 2021 at 7:05 pm
    Churchill … Gallipoli disaster

    If Churchill’s idea had come off – and it nearly did in several ways – the the Great War might have been half the length, and half the fatalities.

    Worthy trying for.

    There is an argument that Gallipoli hastened the fall of the Ottoman empire.

    Churchill was reputedly asked on D-Day what he would do after the war. He said he would write a history of the English speaking peoples, and he did.

    Recommended for Catallaxy book club

  160. miltonf says:

    Of course they do. Just like the cockroaches and parasites in Canbra hate the skips.

  161. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Churchill was reputedly asked on D-Day what he would do after the war. He said he would write a history of the English speaking peoples, and he did.

    “History will be kind to me, for I intend to write that history.”

  162. miltonf says:

    Why would you sign up to the National Guard to be treated with absolute contempt by corrupt, smelly cadavers like pelosi and bidet.

  163. Terry Pedersen says:

    Busts don’t extend as far as procreational organs, btw.

    Surely, Bruce, you have heard of Toulouse Lautrec’s nose?

  164. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “There is an argument that Gallipoli hastened the fall of the Ottoman empire.”

    I’ve read that too, after Gallipoli a group of Turkish officers set up the “Young Turks”…one of whom was Boris Johnson’s great grandfather and of course, the founder of modern Turkey….Ataturk…who would be rolling in his grave at the state of Turkey today.

  165. MatrixTransform says:

    the time is right for Australia to develop a green steel-making industry

    lmfao

  166. Mark A says:

    the uneasy relationship between sport and climate change.

    This stumps me, what is the relationship then?

  167. Dr Faustus says:

    China just luurves the Biden Presidency:

    Australia should seek policy autonomy, free of US directives

    As two sovereign states, Australia should develop relations with China independently and constructively. Placing itself in a subordinate position to always listen to the dictates from Washington is clearly not in line with the long-term interests of Australia.

    The Trump Problem in all this is easy to identify, Australia has slavishly:

    …taken more efforts to disrupt its relation with China, from banning China’s 5G developer Huawei to heightening scrutiny of Chinese investments.

    So, Surrender Dorothy.

  168. lotocoti says:

    allowing the bombing of Coventry

    I never knew Winnie could veto Luftwaffe operations.

  169. Dr Faustus says:

    the time is right for Australia to develop a green steel-making industry
    lmfao

    Don’t laugh.
    Forrest is attached to a massive public money teat on this.
    He has also cheaply captured most of CSIRO’s Hydrogen IP.

  170. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    The Swamp fucking hates the proles.

    That came through loud and clear from McConnell.
    He and Barr are a piece.

  171. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    He has also cheaply captured most of CSIRO’s Hydrogen IP.

    How can you cheaply capture something that’s worth nothing?

  172. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Surely, Bruce, you have heard of Toulouse Lautrec’s nose?

    Mr Lautrec wasn’t known for his nose so much as his pencil.
    A man with stamina, I believe.

  173. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Ataturk…who would be rolling in his grave at the state of Turkey today.

    While serving as President of the Republic of Turkey, Ataturk received a deputation of Mooslime clerics, who demanded that it be made compulsory for all Turkish women to wear the veil.

    Ataturk replied that Turkish women were free to dress as they please, but the only women compelled to wear the veil would be those who were registered with the police, as prostitutes.

  174. twostix says:

    Wallabies great David Pocock has warned “we’re cooked” if the professional sporting world does not act on its moral obligation to combat the rapidly accelerating climate crisis.

    The retired 83-Test Australian flanker and outspoken environmental activist is one of several high-profile athletes contributing to a new podcast examining the uneasy relationship between sport and climate change.

    Must have been hard growing up with that last name.

    Probably why he is the way he is now.

  175. Top Ender says:

    Organisers of Melbourne’s Invasion Day rally are providing training in how to deal with confrontations with police, fascists and ‘organised racists’.

    Warriors of the Aboriginal Resistance said it was running training sessions for its volunteer marshals on Saturday and on the morning of the January 26 protest.

    The group has been recruiting people to be crowd marshals in charge of ‘controlling confrontation points and maintaining covid-safe rules’.

    Volunteers were encouraged not to use their real name and instead use a pseudonym when they sign up as marshals.

    More than 5000 Facebook users have clicked attending or ‘interested in’ the Melbourne rally at 10.30am on the steps of Parliament House.

    It comes amid warnings from police that attendees who don’t comply with social distancing rules could be fined $1652.

    Herald-Sun

  176. Leigh Lowe says:

    With Googlery banging on about the deficiencies of various military leaders I can’t wait to hear his opinion of Alexander the Mediocre.

  177. K2 says:

    There would be people who lived long lives in Melbourne, in the leafy east etc, that never came across an aborigine. Only in books.

    Their descendants are the type who shout loudest for aboriginal rights.

  178. Rockdoctor says:

    Exactly K2. In Moree tonight, seeing a real them vs us attitude that is getting more noticable and I have stayed here more than once. The softly softly approach doesn’t work…

  179. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    and allowing the bombing of Coventry

    That’s an old myth, dispelled a long time ago. Do try and keep up, there’s a good chap.

  180. Arky says:

    Winston Smith
    #3733730, posted on January 22, 2021 at 8:01 pm
    Arky:

    See how they like opera with V8 burnouts or art galleries with Mexican waves and topless chicks.

    You are an ideas man, Arky. I can see that, and I respect your endeavors.
    Please post some pictures of the above.
    Don’t bother with the cars and waves – I’ve see them.
    The feminine jigglers and bobblers are what will get the crowds in.

    ..
    No worries Winston.
    ..
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ0UYvWqqIU

  181. old bloke says:

    If Churchill’s idea had come off – and it nearly did in several ways – the the Great War might have been half the length, and half the fatalities.

    Worthy trying for.

    Agreed, the Dardanelles plan was a good idea which failed in the preparation, and mostly failed due to poor leadership on the ground.

  182. Dr Faustus says:

    How can you cheaply capture something that’s worth nothing?

    When that technology comes with Government backing and supports a rent-seeking strategy it has ‘real’ value. It may not be what you and I consider real value.
    Fortescue has its foot in the OPM door.

  183. Top Ender says:

    Losing 9kg in seven months is a “hunger strike”:

    A Supermax terrorist is being offered access to psychologists and chaplains in a bid to end his hunger strike, which he has been on since last June.

    The high-risk prisoner, who cannot be named for legal reasons, began refusing food in June when he was detained at Cobham Youth Justice Centre, resulting in multiple hospital visits.

    Youth Justice sources claimed the inmate began the hunger strike in support of the Black Lives Matter movement and in protest at how he was being treated.

    The convicted terrorist, who was a minor at the time of his offence, was allowed a special contact visit with his parents during a statewide COVID lockdown, with authorities hoping the move would result in the inmate eating again.

    The visit, which enabled the inmate’s parents to hug and kiss him, was organised after five hospital admissions — at least one at Nepean Hospital — and a loss of 9kg of his body weight.

    The inmate was later transferred to Supermax as part of a state government initiative to move adult offenders from juvenile justice facilities.

    A prison source said the inmate had recently resumed his “on and off” hunger strike, after being treated at Long Bay hospital following the refusal of food in mid-December.

    Prison officials have offered the inmate access to psychologists and chaplains in the hope he will end the hunger strike.

    It is understood the inmate has told officials he does not believe he should be in prison.

    Daily Tele

  184. Dot says:

    alternative comedian

    Funnily enough, the alternative to laughter is well, not laughing.

  185. zyconoclast says:

    Must have been hard growing up with that last name.

    Could have been worse –> Poocock?

  186. Dot says:

    I can’t help notice you didn’t write that in German. Or Japanese.

    I can’t help notice that we have much in common with Airstrip One.

    Day 390 (?) of our two week lockdown to flatten the curve.

    At least we’re not speaking Mandarin.

    Yet.

  187. old bloke says:

    Joe Biden removed Donald Trump’s bust of Winston Churchill on his first day as President, replacing it with Cesar Chavez.

    Was it Donald Trump’s bust that was removed? I recall that there had been a Churchill bust in the Oval Office since forever (Roosevelt, Truman?), and Barack Obama had it removed when he became President. Didn’t Donald Trump just take it back into the Oval Office?

    How would that make it “Donald Trump’s” bust?

  188. Arky says:

    There is one answer to all progressive nonsense that is much underused, and that is: Life isn’t fair.
    One might go further: Life should not be fair.
    Without the extremes of effort required to overcome adversity we would be nothing.
    One could push it to a further extreme: Attempts to make life fair are evil.

  189. Arky says:

    At least we’re not speaking Mandarin.

    ..
    Ni hao xiao pengyou.

  190. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Agreed, the Dardanelles plan was a good idea which failed in the preparation, and mostly failed due to poor leadership on the ground.

    Which of the plans are you referring to? The original plan to force the Dardanelles, with naval forces, which was Churchill’s brain child, and which nearly did succeed, or the attempt to land forces which was a rotten plan , and had no chance of success from the word “Go?”

  191. incoherent rambler says:

    Hey dot. Can you remember that link you posted here about the dietary cholesterol shit?
    It would be helpful if you gave to me again.

  192. old bloke says:

    Dr Faustus
    #3733873, posted on January 22, 2021 at 10:35 pm

    How can you cheaply capture something that’s worth nothing?

    When that technology comes with Government backing and supports a rent-seeking strategy it has ‘real’ value. It may not be what you and I consider real value.
    Fortescue has its foot in the OPM door.

    How strange that I should have been talking to someone involved in this project just a week ago. Nice bloke, but very committed to green ideology. He was honest enough to admit that renewable energy couldn’t exist without subsidies, and that hydrogen as a vehicle fuel was not possible at this time due to temperature and storage problems.

    There seemed to be a belief that converting water to hydrogen would reduce operating costs at remote mine sites compared to the exorbitant cost of diesel fuel.

  193. Splatacrobat says:

    Unless there are cobwebs up his arse, it’s not a hunger strike.

  194. incoherent rambler says:

    hydrogen

    I would not be brave stupid enough to travel in a vehicle carrying substantial quantities of H2.

  195. Dr Faustus says:

    London Covid deaths appear to have started falling in Government data

    Professor Tim Spector, a King’s College London epidemiologist, said today that the ‘signs are hopeful we’re on our way out of this situation’.

    You read it first on the Cat.

  196. Bruce in WA says:

    Untrue. I was talking about the language. You were trying to infer Englishness. And all Canadians can speak English; many of them, especially in the eastern provinces, also speak French or Indian or Vietnamese.

    Untrue yourself. I wasn’t trying to “infer” anything, cockhead. I was talking about language. And no, many Canadians can NOT speak English. We count a number as friends and have to converse in a form of bastardised French.

  197. Dr Faustus says:

    How strange that I should have been talking to someone involved in this project just a week ago. Nice bloke, but very committed to green ideology. He was honest enough to admit that renewable energy couldn’t exist without subsidies, and that hydrogen as a vehicle fuel was not possible at this time due to temperature and storage problems.

    Quite possible we know the same ‘nice bloke’.

  198. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    House That! Home of serial killers David and Catherine Birnie sold for discounted price
    Kim Macdonald
    The West Australian
    Fri, 22 January 2021 2:00AM
    Kim Macdonald
    The Willagee house where serial killers David (inset) and Catherine Birnie committed their atrocities has been sold.

    The home at Moorhouse Street, Willagee, sold for $425,000 to a local couple, which is a fair discount on the original $459,000 asking price.

    It is the third time real estate agent Tony Papineau of One Residential had sold the house, which has had five different owners in the past two decades.

    As required with statutory obligations to disclose any facts that would affect the price or a prospective buyer’s decision, Mr Papineau had told interested parties of the home’s grisly past.

    He said there was a fairly even split between those who felt uncomfortable with the fact the Birnies had killed two of their four victims at the house, and those who did not give a fig.

    David Birnie hanged himself in the tronk. He may, or may not, have been castrated with a kitchen knife, but there is no truth in the rumour that half a dozen prison warders were pulling at the other end of the rope, chanting “Yo heave ho, and up he goes.”

  199. Bruce in WA says:

    House That! Home of serial killers David and Catherine Birnie sold for discounted price

    There’s a house not half a km from us where a demented Kiwi guy murdered and set fire to his girlfriend, a WA copper. We call it the “murder house”. It was repaired and has been constantly occupied (think it’s a rental) since then. I wonder if the tenants have ever been told??

  200. old bloke says:

    Which of the plans are you referring to? The original plan to force the Dardanelles, with naval forces, which was Churchill’s brain child, and which nearly did succeed, or the attempt to land forces which was a rotten plan , and had no chance of success from the word “Go?”

    I was referring to the latter Zulu. I understood that the Turkish guns at the head of the Gallipoli Strait, on both the European and Asian sides, were too deadly to permit a naval force to enter. Therefore, an amphibious attack at Gallipoli to capture the guns on one side would have allowed naval forces to move on Constantinople.

    The plan failed though as the Turks witnessed the Royal Navy taking depth measurements of the sea around the intended landing sites, and prepared their defences accordingly. The biggest failures though resulted from poor management on the ground.

    Two instances come to mind – at one of the English landing beaches, the army found no resistance, The moved inland some miles, walked through a Turkish town, and climbed a hill from which they could see the Turkish gun emplacements at the Straits. They were ordered to return to the beach-head, and they never advanced from that position again.

    The second point concerns the Irish Volunteers who were the last to land some distance to the south-west of the other landing parties. They established their beach-head and didn’t advance even though Ataturk’s forces were already so thinly stretched across the British and ANZAC landing sites. The Irish Volunteers could have walked into Constantinople unchallenged while singing “Molly Malone.”

  201. BrettW says:

    Just watched a 8 min clip of Biden’s Press Secretary giving summary of Bidens first executive orders. At one point she actually said President Obama when clearly should have said Biden. Naturally she did work for Biden previously.

  202. old bloke says:

    Quite possible we know the same ‘nice bloke’.

    I take it that you’re another sand groper Dr.

  203. Splatacrobat says:

    Sorry some context may help…..

    Losing 9kg in seven months is a “hunger strike”:

    Unless there are cobwebs up his arse, it’s not a hunger strike.

  204. Dr Faustus says:

    I take it that you’re another sand groper Dr.

    Brisbane, old bloke.
    So likely another involved party with similar perspectives.

  205. Bruce of Newcastle:

    Oh and without inciting the Germans to use nerve gas, which they had a very large chemical industry ready and able to produce.

    Germany had already produced enough Sarin/Soman derivitive to use in the breakthrough phase of “Operation Citadelle” However supplies remained extremely limited until 1944. Hitler refused to use it to stabilise the front as Operation Bagration got underway so lost the major part of Army Group Center.
    Considering in mid ’43 that Germany was trying to write down the vast reserves of Soviet manpower, and that the Eastern front had approximately 2 million men to absorb the German attack, and then push forward into their counteroffensive.
    Even if Germany had pulled back thirty or forty kilometers, then drenched the Russian defences with sarin, it would have crippled Soviet efforts for the rest of the year.
    Had von Manstein been allowed to go on the offensive at the very start of the summer campaign as he wished, he could have easily caused very large casualties to the Soviet forces. The delays by Hitler meant the Russians were able to reinforce their front, and construct massive defenses to break the German tank formations.

  206. Dot says:

    Rambler

    I would suggest Gary Tubes or Jason Fung, perhaps Intensive Dietary Management (Jason Fung again) or Mark Sisson of Mark’s Daily Apple.

    Believe it or not Dr Mehmet Oz’s book “You on a Diet” is in the anti Ancel Keys camp as well.

    Fung’s original lectures online were “The Aetiology of Obesity”, which was published as *The Obesity Code*.

    I can’t remember anything specific about cholesterol except it is needed for cell walls, vitamin D formation and many hormones.

    Hope it helps.

  207. Zyconoclast says:

    Unless there are cobwebs up his arse, it’s not a hunger strike.

    So eating spiders on a hunger strike is ok?

  208. Top Ender:
    Just got around to replying to your contribution last night:

    The convicted terrorist, who was a minor at the time of his offence, was allowed a special contact visit with his parents during a statewide COVID lockdown, with authorities hoping the move would result in the inmate eating again.

    This is the same as the recalcitrant child threatening to hold its breath until it turns blue, or “Thwceaming and thwceaming until I’m thick.”
    How on earth did this idiot – no doubt coached by parents and staff – gain such influence to wield against the system using an emotional blackmail trick a four year old tries on?
    FFS, my eldest tried this when she was four – “If I can’t have what I want, I’ll cry, daddy.” It turned out later both girls were being taught over the space of years how to emotionally manipulate their parents. Of course their mother who had grown up in this psychotic household couldn’t wouldn’t see the dominance game being played out with disastrous results later on.
    All the staff, from the head of the gaol should be instantly dismissed for incompetence.
    This entire episode speaks of an out of control system that has failed in its basic mission.

  209. …Something tells me there is a new Open Fredde.
    Let me check.
    Why yes, yes there is and it’s up to page 2.
    Fizzle crackle spark blurt. Signing off, HQ. This is Accordion Blue Finch from Rabaul.. crackle.

  210. A new open fred? How could this be? Open to what? Let’s see.

  211. Forester says:

    the uneasy relationship between sport and climate change.

    This stumps me, what is the relationship then?

    My wife says they fart more often.

  212. Forester says:

    It comes amid warnings from police that attendees who don’t comply with social distancing rules could be fined $1652.

    That couple that escaped Dan’s compulsory fortnight “holiday” in Melbourne, got fined $38k?
    But I’ve read since they’re not chasing the fines?

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