Two views on the green energy transition in Germany

Sweetness and light. Doing it by diversification.

It has been legislative action that has resulted in creating historically stable growth for renewable energy in Germany.

“The diversification of ownership in Germany’s renewable energy installations is secured through a long term oriented and stable regulative framework, the renewable energy law”, Litz told RenewEconomy. He advocates strongly for the model of ownership.

“A broad ownership structure has a positive impact on the market sustainability. It ensures broad political support and stability in times of regular, legislative change,” he said. “As technologies evolve quickly, also market design and financing schemes need to be adopted regularly. It also increases acceptance for the energy transition through active participation.”

Germany is also a good example of a country working hard to figure out the hard realities of 2050 climate targets, and the actions that must be taken today to reach the goals of tomorrow.

Good luck!

Doing it in the dark. When it gets cold and the wind stops.

Germany’s power grid is on the brink of collapse, thanks to chaotically intermittent wind and solar; a complete power supply failure is just a heartbeat away.

As winter bites and power use soars, dead calm conditions mean there is little or no wind power and solar panels crusted in snow and ice are producing nothing much at all.

Anyone keen to know what our ‘inevitable transition’ to an all wind and sun powered future might look like, here’s a peek at what’s coming, courtesy of No Tricks Zone.

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34 Responses to Two views on the green energy transition in Germany

  1. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    China is laughing at us

  2. Rex Anger says:

    Energiewende (TM)-

    It’s German for Dark Ages

  3. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Germany goes nuts once a century.

  4. Chris M says:

    Well they could import electricity from Poland. And if the Poles don’t provide just invade them.

  5. Rex Anger says:

    Germany goes nuts once a century.

    Steady on- They did it twice last one…

  6. Squirrel says:

    The “where’s the soap” jokes in Der Spiegel will be a silver lining in Germany’s renewables cloud……

  7. rickw says:

    How 1800’s!

  8. thefrollickingmole says:

    Who to believe.
    Those salivating at making profits from a shonky system or those who just want the lights to stay on?

  9. Iain Russell says:

    Mercifully they have European nukes and Russian gas to spin the lie that the Energiewende is other than a fleet, expensive failure.

  10. Mark A says:

    Iain Russell
    #3730348, posted on January 20, 2021 at 2:42 am

    Mercifully they have European nukes and Russian gas

    I drink to that, Russian gas keeps us warm here, not too keen on Euro nukes but, too many chefs in the kitchen.
    As to electricity, believe me, sanity always wins in the end, but beware of the chaos and suffering in between.

  11. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    “Germany’s power grid is on the brink of collapse”

    I do enjoy hearing good news about stupid people.

  12. Mr Johnson says:

    Germany is careening toward what Trump and Pompeo warned about – them being reliant on Russia’s gas and therefore becoming a political hostage. The countries benefiting from the West’s green obsession are Russia, China, and those Middle Eastern regimes, and all of them not the sort you want to see getting any more financially muscular.

  13. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    More on the German grid woes.

    Last-Ditch Effort: Germany Weighs Electricity Rationing Scheme To Stabilize Its Now Shaky Green Power Grid (19 Jan)

    To deal with the power grid problems, Germany’s Economics Minister Peter Altmaier presented a draft law that would allow electric utilities “to temporarily cut off charging power for e-cars when there is once again too little electricity available”, an idea known as “peak smoothing”.

    And as Tichy Einblick mentions, the increasing number of cars on the market will only serve to cause more extreme power demand peaks. Currently Germany is set to make a major push into electric mobility this year.

    In the proposed draft law, which has since been recalled because it was deemed so embarrassing, it was written that “controllable consumption facilities” would be able to receive no electricity for up to two hours per day if there was a threat of overloading the grid.

    “This includes charging stations for e-cars as well as heat pumps, which can already be temporarily disconnected from the power supply,” reports Tichy.

    The German grid is now so unstable that the Economics Minister wants to pass a law preventing people from charging their Gaia-saving electric cars? That is hilarious!

  14. Bruce says:

    Mutti Merkel running true to her Stasi past.

  15. yarpos says:

    Sounds like a very long winded way of saying socialize the costs and privatize the profits/subsidies.

  16. Tony Taylor says:

    Germany goes nuts once a century.

    Steady on- They did it twice last one…

    Once Part I
    Once Part II

  17. max says:

    Vaclav Smil:

    In 2000, Germany had an installed capacity of 121 gigawatts and it generated 577 terawatt-hours,

    In 2019, the country produced just 5 percent more (607 TWh), but its installed capacity was 80 percent higher (218.1 GW) because it now had two generating systems.

    The new system, using intermittent power from wind and solar, accounted for 110 GW, nearly 50 percent of all installed capacity in 2019, but operated with a capacity factor of just 20 percent.

    The old system stood alongside it, almost intact, retaining nearly 85 percent of net generating capacity in 2019. Germany needs to keep the old system in order to meet demand on cloudy and calm days and to produce nearly half of total demand.

    It costs Germany a great deal to maintain such an excess of installed power. The average cost of electricity for German households has doubled since 2000.

    http://vaclavsmil.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/71.ENERGIEWENDE.pdf

  18. Roger says:

    The French parliament has recently voted to go down the same path. Nuclear is on the way out, renewables to receive $220bn+ subsidies – sorry “investment”.

    Engineers have warned that their power system will be destabilised as a result unless they build more gas and coal generators!

  19. Rafe Champion says:

    Yes you would think with the greenest energy in the world they would build more nuclear power.

    What would engineers know:)?

  20. RJH says:

    “The average cost of electricity for German households has doubled since 2000.” Max funny that has also been the same result/findings for us in Australia! With Governments & Energy Ministers like Angus Taylor who have no idea of self-awareness nor principles when all they can come up with in the constant demand by consumers for Retail Price Reductions is to parrot on with stupid and meaningless statements like, “the wholesale price of electricity has gone down”? With these “inspiring” examples of “Leadership & Talent,” I am considering for the first time voting Informal at the next Elections

  21. Nob says:

    As well as the pipes coming in from Russia, Germany also has two Europipes from Norway, LNG from Qatar and USA via Rotterdam , and are building their own LNG terminal near Hamburg.

    Check out the Norwegian pipelines.

  22. Dinky says:

    The countries benefiting from the West’s green obsession are Russia, China, and those Middle Eastern regimes

    They’re following Napoleon’s maxim “never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake”.

  23. Rafe Champion says:

    Thanks for the link Nob!

    Yes Dinky, as per the analysis by Mark Mills.

  24. Rex Anger says:

    Steady on- They did it twice last one…

    Once Part I
    Once Part II

    Okay Tony, I do concede that they took a quick 21 year breather…

  25. Nob says:

    Rafe,

    Gas pipeline maps are always a good guide to where the essential energy networks really are.

    I’m providing some tools to gas wells offshore Denmark at the moment, that great wind power champion that still produces gas and is also investing in the Baltic Pipe project.

  26. Nob says:

    Germany, like all European countries, is interconnected to nuclear , gas and coal powered networks and will probably avoid grid meltdown.

  27. Nob says:

    Mark,
    You’re in Hungary or somewhere like that?

    In recent years I’ve provided tools and services to gas wells in Hungary (Szeged), Austria (Ganserndorf near Vienna and dozens of gas storage wells near Salzburg) Czech ( Hodonin) and so on.

  28. TFM:

    Those salivating at making profits from a shonky system or those who just want the lights to stay on?

    I would like the lights and power to go off for a week, just to wake these stupid bastards up.
    If that doesn’t, then 2 weeks.
    By that time, Europe will only be a problem to itself.

  29. IaIn Russel:

    Mercifully they have European nukes and Russian gas to spin the lie that the Energiewende is other than a fleet, expensive failure.

    Will the rest of Europe have any surplus for Germany lower than extortionate prices?
    Fuck ’em – the German people keep voting in lunatics, I hope the French charge them $100 kw/hr.
    Call it reparations.
    The Germans had their own nukes but have closed them all down haven’t they?
    Tough titty, Heinrich.

  30. Mr Johnson:

    Germany is careening toward what Trump and Pompeo warned about – them being reliant on Russia’s gas and therefore becoming a political hostage. The countries benefiting from the West’s green obsession are Russia, China, and those Middle Eastern regimes, and all of them not the sort you want to see getting any more financially muscular.

    There is a funny side to this, really.
    How many of the ME hordes will piss off to the countries that have power? How many Grasshoppers will piss off back home when the plunder runs out? How many will get tossed out of their comfortable government supplied houses when native born Germans start freezing in the dark?
    The Jerries have a bit of a mean streak when the cold winds descend.
    Not a lot of fun for the grasshoppers then, eh?

  31. Rafe Champion says:

    The worst is yet to come in Europe, have a look at the cold weather looming up!

    This pattern of record-high energy consumption due to historically-low temperatures is being repeated across much of Europe, and across the majority of Asia as well. Across many nations, emergency production is being called upon, including the re-opening of sidelined coal-fired power plants.

    “BEAST FROM THE EAST 2” INCOMING
    Looking ahead, Europe’s recent chill will likely pale in comparison to the monster currently brewing to the north.

    Stratospheric conditions over the Arctic are developing in such a way that cold records could not only be broken but utterly annihilated over the coming weeks. Looking at the North Pole’s 10hPa temperature chart (shown below), we can temps above the Arctic have risen sharply of late.

    Add to that, record high LNG prices.

  32. On the coming European Electrical Grid Disaster:

    To deal with the power grid instability problems, Germany’s Economics Minister Peter Altmaier presented a draft law that would allow electric utilities “to temporarily cut off the charging power for e-cars when there is once again too little electricity available”, an idea known as “peak smoothing”.

    Hahahaha!
    This is going to be 2021’s song!

  33. Rex Anger says:

    @ Winston-

    I’m almost starting to regret linking that song…

    …But not too much. Still funny.

  34. Rafe Champion says:

    Thanks Winston, Peak smoothing!

    Beautiful, almost as cute as the Reliability and Emergency Reserve Trader (RERT) that means the AEMO tells big users to do a bit of “peak smoothing.”

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