Open Forum: January 23, 2021

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  1. Tel says:

    As I remember, Australia Day was a Bob Hawke “invention”, first step to republic.

    No it started off as war patriotism on 30th July 1915.

    https://www.phototimetunnel.com/the-first-australia-day-july-30-1915

  2. miltonf says:

    Well I hope Garret is sorry for what happened when he was a Commonwealth minister. Again I ask, how come so many hate filled leftist went to exclusive private schools?

  3. Snoopy says:

    A light aircraft just flew overhead towing a ‘Happy Australia Day’ banner. Heading towards the city where hopefully it will be noticed by the Invasion Day mongs.

  4. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Again I ask, how come so many hate filled leftist went to exclusive private schools?”

    And send their children to exclusive private schools.

  5. H B Bear says:

    Pays to beware any politician seeking to invoke the spirit of a nation. Any nation for any purpose. Yet I would argue the nation state has been a pretty useful construct. A fine balance to be drawn.

  6. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Yes, really:

    ‘Fugitive Melbourne teacher Malka Leifer has been extradited from Israel under a veil of secrecy’

    Said the report in a national newspaper.

  7. miltonf says:

    It pretty much shows how leftism is not a ‘people’s’ movement at all but something that has been imposed by elites. You see how many went to Barker and Knox. Extraordinary. Concern for everyman is just talk.

  8. Bruce in WA says:

    Just saw this:

    Actually you have to admire Cameron. Won a seat for the Lieborals. Went to Canberra and found out it was all just bullshit and left, albeit to the warm tit of Aunty’s bosom where he was welcome with open arms.

    Actually, insider info is that the ABC had, for years, wanted to dump him for his non-progressive views — and he knew it — but were unable to do so because of the ratings his breakfast show pulled — and he knew that, too.

  9. Top Ender says:

    Among girls aged 10-14 in the US, rates of self-harm are up 189 per cent since 2010, nearly triple what they were only six years before.

    This is the social epidemic the Andrews government is fuelling through its deviously named Safe Schools project and the latest legislation, which will mandate the practice known as “gender affirming” care. If a teenage girl claims she is a boy trapped in a girl’s body, or vice versa, the clinician must accept it as the final and unchallengeable diagnosis.

    Oz – can post whole article if anyone wants

  10. Nick says:

    Yes KD, so secret that all the papers are reporting it

  11. Snoopy says:

    Donald Trump’s former lawyer Rudy Giuliani has been sued for $US1.3 billion ($A1.7 billion) for his role in promoting false claims of election fraud.

    Dominion Voting Systems filed a defamation lawsuit on Monday.

    Dominion is so squeaky clean the response of their lawyers to Rudi’s discovery requests will be, “No problems, is there anything else you need?”

  12. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Oz – can post whole article if anyone wants”

    Yes please TE…..this is what Abigail Shrier writes about in her excellent book “Irreversible Damage”.

  13. BrettW says:

    I note the Gov Generals press release about Honours only mentioned Courts tennis achievements and nothing about her church work. Personally I would prefer it mention more recent achievements rather than just from 40 odd years ago.

  14. calli says:

    There are several classes of people who send their kids to top tier private schools

    – old boys/girls who want the same for their sprogs (includes farmers)
    – wealthy with oodles of money who park the children often in boarding
    – tradies and middle managers who work like demons to pay the fees in the hope that their children will get up a few rungs on the education pole
    – elites who hold their noses at the thought of the first three (particularly 3) and spend their time “don’t you know who I am-ing”, and white-anting out the school’s ethos while basking in the reflected glow of the school’s cachet

    Seen them all.

  15. Old School Conservative says:

    I love the Babylon Bee.

    AOC Pulls An All-Nighter Studying For Covid Test

  16. miltonf says:

    Interesting observation Calli.

  17. Old School Conservative says:

    calli, I would add to your list a significant number of grandparents who are happy to pay the fees.

  18. Bruce in WA says:

    Always was, always will be — about the dosh.

    A speaker at the event (“Invasion Day” protest in Sydney), Gwenda Stanley, told a crowd of more than 500 people that it was time Indigenous Australians were given proper reparations.

    “A million dollars for each black person,” she said.

    “Don’t be fooled by the Uluru statement from the arse. Let’s do reparations before treaty. A million dollars for each black person and then we can talk treaty.”

  19. MatrixTransform says:

    ScoMo’s speech today … set to music

  20. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “calli
    #3737521, posted on January 26, 2021 at 10:54 am”

    A very accurate analysis.

  21. Johno says:

    Talking to my young grandson this morning [ 15 yo]. There is a girl at his school who has decided she is not gender specific, all names are gender based, so she will be called Sock. She demands everyone call her Sock, she also wears ridiculously high platforms. I asked him for his opinion and he just said “lost soul”.
    So I prodded him for a more complete answer and he said,”psychologically damaged, attention seeker, any more bacon Grandad?”

    The kids know it is all bull, but they go along to get along.

  22. MatrixTransform says:

    any more bacon Grandad?

    Johno == Jedi

    🙂

  23. Black Ball says:

    In the Hun today:

    ‘Thousands of migrants are massing in Honduras intent on marching to the US, despite a $US4bn aid offer from the new Biden administration to encourage them to stay put.’

    Now wasn’t Trump painted as racist for stopping the flow of undocumented immigrants?
    Apparently there are 3 caravans planned to try and get to the US. Just the next lot of Democrat voters, as some of this aid will be used to try and resettle these people in the US.

  24. twostix says:

    The commonwealth or “Australia” as we knew it is collapsing before our very eyes. It’s happening so quickly now.

    Nobody cares.

    I said two years ago that it lost the heart of the Australian nation – the people whose peope created and sustain it, in exchamge for a substitute artificially created “nation” that it imported and manufactured
    Now the aussie people are drifting back towards their states as the true and oldest bedrock representations of their people. The power elite are seeing that the commonwealth is a spent force. Perhaps they always hated it and are driving the final nails in now.

    Unfortunately our ancestors created the federal government because the states as colonies – were unfixable undemocratic elite and family ridden nightmares.

    If it wasn’t for medicare and centrelink the commonwealth would already be gone.

  25. miltonf says:

    As a drink driver, Kerry O’Brien should never have been offered an Australian honour to then hand back.
    I saw him first-hand in Canberra and he was danger and menace to the public.
    He’s not fit to lick Margaret Court’s shoe laces, let call her ‘dangerous’.

    Latho tells it like it is. Old ABC labor hawke turd.

  26. MatrixTransform says:

    stix, you forgot the ATO

  27. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “miltonf
    #3737539, posted on January 26, 2021 at 11:05 am
    As a drink driver, Kerry O’Brien should never have been offered an Australian honour to then hand back.
    I saw him first-hand in Canberra and he was danger and menace to the public.
    He’s not fit to lick Margaret Court’s shoe laces, let call her ‘dangerous’.

    Latho tells it like it is. Old ABC labor hawke turd.”

    Thank God for Mark Latham.

  28. Mater says:

    And send their children to exclusive private schools.

    The same reason they espouse ‘socialised healthcare’, but use the private system.
    They prefer realism over idealism, when it comes to their own.

  29. miltonf says:

    Never knew that about O’Pooface. The Canbra establishment looks after its own.

  30. Top Ender says:

    Here you go Cassie:

    Andrews courts the militant politics of gender revolution
    NICK CATER

    On Friday Daniel Andrews ripped into Margaret Court, claiming her views on same-sex marriage were “disgraceful, hurtful and cost lives”. The same criticism might be applied to his government’s handling of quarantine hotels, but that’s another story. More pertinent was Andrews’ opportunistic attempt to justify an ugly law that purports to prohibit gay conversion therapy, a practice he implied Court condones. She does not. Court is possessed with a profound Christian charity lacking in her opponents.

    In any case, the Change or Suppression (Conversion) Practices Prohibition Bill is not primarily intended to outlaw a practice that almost every Victorian would abhor. It is a Trojan horse for activism of the most insidious kind. It is an attack on freedom of religion and parental rights by activists who regard the very existence of categories of sex and sexuality to be oppressive.

    To call upon the laws of biology when counselling a genderconfused teenager or to suggest they might want to think again before declaring war on their bodies will become a criminal act. The role of doctors, psychiatrists, priests and parents will be reduced to applying a rubber stamp. A minor will still need the approval of a responsible adult to get a tattoo in Victoria, but not to change their gender.

    Should this dangerous legislation be approved by Victoria’s upper house next month, it will no doubt be declared a victory over bigotry, prejudice and hate speech that ends an injustice overlooked by previous generations. Yet the attempt to align this insidious movement with grassroots campaigns for women’s rights or gay marriage is a sham. The majority of lesbian, gay and bisexual people gender activists claim to represent are not familiar with its true aims and would not support them if they were.

    The insistence that biological males identifying as women should have the right to play women’s sport, use women’s toilets or other female-only spaces puts them in open conflict with feminists. Tennis champion Martina Navratilova is a proud lesbian who demanded last January that Margaret Court Stadium be renamed. But when she dared to argue that allowing trans athletes to compete in women’s sport was unfair, she was accused of transphobia and was dropped by her sponsor, AthleteAlly. When Navratilova and Court find themselves on the same side of the net, something strange is going on.

    The new social justice movement is different to the old one. The civil rights movement and the campaign for legal equality for homosexuals began on the streets. The new transgender movement, on the other hand, began in the cultural studies departments of universities and is founded on Theory, with an upper-case T.

    Queer Theory, from which today’s transgenderism derives, is an exercise in applied postmodernism that explicitly sets out to change the social order. Transgender activists are not motivated by the plight of those suffering from gender dysphoria, a clinical diagnosis some of these radicals would like to erase. They are political revolutionaries who use “queer” as a verb and deliberately mess with the language to destabilise seemingly fixed categories, like male and female, and to problematise the binary thinking they represent. Their actions flow from a worldview obsessed with hierarchies of power and cultural grievances that reduces everything to a zero-sum political struggle.

    An important book by The Wall Street Journal’s Abigail Shrier, published late last year, exposes the weak clinical evidence and questionable assumptions that underpin the Victorian bill. Her book, Irreversible Damage: Teenage Girls and the Transgender Craze, assembles a mountain of evidence to demonstrate that radical transgenderism, as opposed to gender dysphoria, is a recent invention, driven by ideology. The American Psychiatric Association’s most recent Diagnostic and Statistical Manual reports the expected incidence of gender dysphoria at between five and 14 cases for every 100,000 natal males and two to three for every 100,000 natal females. The condition is defined by eight possible symptoms, five of which are readily observable early in a child’s life.

    The reinvention of transgenderism in the past decade has changed the game completely. A 2017 survey of teens in the US reports 2 per cent of high school teens identify as transgender. A preliminary study by Brown University’s Lisa Littman suggests few of them would be classified as gender-dysphoric under APA guidelines. This used to be an extremely rare condition affecting preschool boys, most of whom grew out of it. Now it is overwhelmingly teenage girls announcing a new gender, out of the blue, and wanting life-changing hormone drugs and mastectomy. Littman labels this “rapid-onset gender dysphoria” and suggests the most likely cause is social contagion online and in peer groups.

    Teenagers, especially teenage girls, as American social psychologist Jonathan Haidt has pointed out, are suffering a “mental health crisis”, with record levels of anxiety and depression. Their chief form of interaction with peers is the mobile phone; their playground is the social media jungle. Among girls aged 10-14 in the US, rates of self-harm are up 189 per cent since 2010, nearly triple what they were only six years before.

    This is the social epidemic the Andrews government is fuelling through its deviously named Safe Schools project and the latest legislation, which will mandate the practice known as “gender affirming” care. If a teenage girl claims she is a boy trapped in a girl’s body, or vice versa, the clinician must accept it as the final and unchallengeable diagnosis.

    The idea an adolescent knows who she is with a level of certainty to entrust her with life-altering decisions fails the family dinner table test. It lacks empirical evidence and goes against the grain of almost everyone’s memories of their teenage years.

    Yet since Queer Theory distrusts science as a construct framed by a white, largely male elite to exercise power, empiricism is just one way of knowing. The lived experience of the oppressed is considered a far more reliable guide to a child’s gender than biology or what, until five minutes ago, was established clinical practice. Shrier interviews dissident clinicians, once leaders in their field, who resist the new madness. Most in their profession and its associated fields of medicine and psychology, however, have heeded the message: get on board with affirmative therapy or lose your job and maybe your licence. Let us hope the members of Victoria’s Legislative Council are made of sterner stuff.

    Nick Cater is executive director of the Menzies Research Centre.

    Oz complete article from the print edition

  31. Des Deskperson says:

    ‘The sickest one of all is the PSM. To think that such an ‘award’ even exists.’

    The PSM used to be a sort of consolation prize, given to some plodding old branch head or boffin who had supposedly worked doggedly at some project or other but whose career wasn’t going anywhere else. It was rare indeed for real high fliers – Portfolio Secretaries especially – to have a PSM.

    Now it tends to be awarded as a sort of bureaucratic equivalent of voodoo. If , when a project is successful, people get awards, then if people get awards, the project must have been successful.

  32. Leigh Lowe says:

    This comment above is actionable.

    No it isn’t.
    No individual was named, or even hinted at.
    Stop playing Faulty’s pathetic grifting game.

    You start putting me in with p…e..d.os and fringe types there may be consequences.
    You quote me on what I have said from now on, and only what I have said.

    No-one said that.
    It a reference to Faulty and NFA making sweeping allegations about peterfiles (not connected with this blog) drawn from the batshit crazy WEF-Soros-Gates conspiracy sites they frequented every waking hour.

  33. Dr Faustus says:

    Dominion is so squeaky clean the response of their lawyers to Rudi’s discovery requests will be, “No problems, is there anything else you need?”

    You’d certainly think so. There will be no built in:

    If newVote = “Trump” Then bidenTotal = bidenTotal + 1

    If there is a systematic problem, it will likely be with the way the Dominion system was used by electoral officials.

  34. Dot says:

    Hey guys, I’m actually Aboriginal.

    Any cheap blocks of land near Coffs Harbour, preferably beachside?

  35. Geriatric Mayfly says:

    If Ross Ward is any guide, with his/her/they impact on The Hunchback and Safe Schools, one wonders from what pit of depravity this latest legislation has been fed into his big flapping ears. The scraggy green, red, purple, jet black bouffants reveal a coven of theys/xirs feverishly drafting their obnoxious proposals and the greater the repugnance the more Dan will like it. Next agenda item – incest.

    This is the social epidemic the Andrews government is fuelling through its deviously named Safe Schools project and the latest legislation, which will mandate the practice known as “gender affirming” care.

  36. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    “Don’t be fooled by the Uluru statement from the arse. Let’s do reparations before treaty. A million dollars for each black person and then we can talk treaty.”

    An excellent idea – a million dollars for every “black person” with none of the contamination of European blood, and a treaty which reads

    “Whitefella won

    Blackfella lost

    Too bad

    so sad!”

  37. miltonf says:

    Fascinating Des. Always enjoy your observations.

  38. Dot says:

    Barnes Wallis deserved a PSM and a knighthood (and a pension and estate).

    He was the Ser Barristan Selmy of nerds.

  39. Arky says:

    in exchamnge for a substitute artificially created “nation” that it imported and manufactured

    ..
    It was created by elites to serve a purpose at that time.
    The most likely future for this continent is a fractured and disputed one: bits of it will be claimed by china, bits will be claimed by the Kelli-phate.
    It’s seen as terra nullius.
    25 odd million on something the size of Europe.
    A population who refuse to do anything with what they have, who vote in green sympathising idiots.

  40. Leigh Lowe says:

    You start putting me in with p…e..d.os 

    You mean a bit like the comment made here a while back associating High Court Justices with “kiddie parties”?
    Something like that?

  41. Roger says:

    Again I ask, how come so many hate filled leftist went to exclusive private schools?

    Only the rich can afford socialism.

    The working class certainly can’t.

  42. Dot says:

    Eli Lily monoclonal antibody treatment for COVID-19.

    https://investor.lilly.com/news-releases/news-release-details/lillys-neutralizing-antibody-bamlanivimab-ly-cov555-prevented

    HUGE news, but Joe Bidet ate a King David donut.

  43. Des Deskperson says:

    ‘Well I hope Garret is sorry for what happened when he was a Commonwealth minister. ‘

    Garrett was a dupe and a patsy. PM&C had infiltrated his Department and he hadn’t a clue.

    I’ve always had the impression that, despite being hailed as a musical/environmental/political genius over four decades, he wasn’t too bright.

  44. Ed Case says:

    Drink Driving demonisation only started about 40 years ago, Derryn Hinch pushed it all the time.
    The reality was, people like O’Brien who work late hours and do a lot of socialising as part of their job, were quite likely to have a DD conviction or two.

    This Latham character is one of the worst people in Australian Politics, he’s made a career out of throwing shit, but even after 30+ years on the Public tit, who knows what he stands for, apart from the Attention Seeking?

  45. Roger says:

    “Don’t be fooled by the Uluru statement from the arse. Let’s do reparations before treaty. A million dollars for each black person and then we can talk treaty.”

    Remember when it was about their spiritual relationship with the land?

    It would be wonderful if the TV news bulletins all led with this tonight.

  46. Cassie of Sydney says:

    Thanks for posting TE. Cater nails it. As for his line…”Let us hope the members of Victoria’s Legislative Council are made of sterner stuff.”…I doubt it. The Vic upper house is a freak show…….with the balance of power held by Hinch party, Fiona Pattern, Animal Justice etc.

    Another thing…I note that Cater omits the fact that the supposed Liberal (cough) and all round attention seeker Tim Smith supports this sinister legislation…he openly mocked and sneered at the concept of “prayer”.

    As for “queer theory”….one of its goals is the exploitation of children for sex. The LGB community should never have allowed the trangender and queer activists into their fold. There is now a new organisation in the UK called LGB Alliance…ridding themselves of the T and Q.

  47. Dr Faustus says:

    The commonwealth or “Australia” as we knew it is collapsing before our very eyes. It’s happening so quickly now.

    Very quickly.
    Queensland radio stations have started running official warnings from the Victorian Government that a visa is now required to enter Victoria – in different flavours depending on which coloured zone you come from.

    Next up: Victorian Public Holiday to celebrate Maximum Leader’s birthday.

  48. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘Stop playing Faulty’s pathetic grifting game.’

    Yup. The word wall goes to eleventy whenever that one goes up.

    It’s almost verbatim cut and paste of his nonsense last year. Almost as if it was somehow approved for release.

  49. Dot says:

    Shut up Edrigory, he’s on the side of the angels, and briefly, on the side of the archangels.

    A commie turd who never had a real job got him banned from speaking at an ALP thing.

    Idiots like you brought this on yourselves.

  50. Nick says:

    Queer Theory, from which today’s transgenderism derives, is an exercise in applied postmodernism that explicitly sets out to change the social order. Transgender activists are not motivated by the plight of those suffering from gender dysphoria, a clinical diagnosis some of these radicals would like to erase. They are political revolutionaries who use “queer” as a verb and deliberately mess with the language to destabilise seemingly fixed categories, like male and female, and to problematise the binary thinking they represent. Their actions flow from a worldview obsessed with hierarchies of power and cultural grievances that reduces everything to a zero-sum political struggle.

    That’s going to the pool room. Thanks for posting

  51. Steve trickler says:

    Margaret Court wins the prize for a ride in the passenger seat. Strong lady.😉

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4gkvCBEsyo

  52. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Drink Driving demonisation only started about 40 years ago, Derryn Hinch pushed it all the time.
    The reality was, people like O’Brien who work late hours and do a lot of socialising as part of their job, were quite likely to have a DD conviction or two.”

    Unbelievable. Tell that to the families of men, women and children who have been killed as a result of drink drivers.

  53. Nick says:

    It a reference to Faulty and NFA making sweeping allegations about peterfiles (not connected with this blog) drawn from the batshit crazy WEF-Soros-Gates conspiracy sites they frequented every waking hour.

    To be honest it was also about a variety of people associated with the Cat who go down that road from time to time and the subsequent reaction by their supporters once they realise what swap they are now part of.

    However, thanks for reminding me about other comments I’d forgotten

  54. Black Ball says:

    Tom, do you have Peter Broelman’s work from today’s Hun? Very ordinary.

  55. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Dominion is so squeaky clean the response of their lawyers to Rudi’s discovery requests will be, “No problems, is there anything else you need?”

    More likely it’ll Mann vs Steyn on steroids.

    Mark Steyn files an eviscerating Motion for Summary Judgement in the Michael Mann libel suit (24 Jan)

    Despite Mann refusing to provide his data to the defense in the discovery phase he’s kept this sucker going for 11 years with help from the climatista fundies. Now with the Crook in the WH my expectation he’ll appeal and appeal and appeal in lefty courts. Dominion will likely not fess up during discovery then do the same as Mann for the next decade or two.

  56. Roger says:

    Queer Theory distrusts science as a construct framed by a white, largely male elite to exercise power…

    Queer Theory is our Lysenkoism.

    Anyone who wants a career in science or medicine – or indeed any field – will have to declare their allegiance to it.

    And then, one day far hence, it will collapse overnight under the weight of its own absurdities.

  57. MatrixTransform says:

    an exercise in applied postmodernism

    if you reward kiddies for cutting their dicks off.
    guess what will happen

    in the near future on the holiday established to extol Maximis Leaderus, they should reflect while supping from the banquet of consequences

    ‘but this tastes like shit’, xir said

    just keep chewing mate

  58. Geriatric Mayfly says:

    Next up: Victorian Public Holiday to celebrate Maximum Leader’s birthday.

    Goody. Bread and circuses, and the Yarra will flow with wine.

  59. Struth says:

    You mean a bit like the comment made here a while back associating High Court Justices with “kiddie parties”?
    Something like that?

    Yeah that’s the one. The one you idiotically tried to get me banned from here for saying about another country’s high court.
    No integrity and can’t read.
    I told you not to read what you want to see but what is actually there.
    And now you stupidly come in here claiming others are doing the same thing.
    Complete dickhead.

  60. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Oops, nine years not eleven. Seems like eleven but.

  61. miltonf says:

    I saw him at UNSW in the 80s at an anti Australia card meeting. Useful ally at the time.

  62. Dr Faustus says:

    The reality was, people like O’Brien who work late hours and do a lot of socialising as part of their job, were quite likely to have a DD conviction or two.

    Probably was a reality.
    The corresponding reality is hard evidence on the CV that they tend not to give a fuck about consequences – either too shitfaced, unnecessary risk takers, sloppy, or ‘rules are for the lesser folk’ arrogant.

    Always worth knowing.

  63. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Queer Theory distrusts science as a construct framed by a white, largely male elite to exercise power…

    Queer Theory is our Lysenkoism.

    Fine irony that the Queer Theory lobby seems to be in lockstep with warmie climate science. So if they distrust climate science as a white cis-male construct they certainly don’t let it show.

  64. Struth says:

    You just keep to having a go at what I have said, and don’t use the tired old tactic of “have you ever been caught wanking” gotchas, they are pathetic.

  65. Roger says:

    Fine irony that the Queer Theory lobby seems to be in lockstep with warmie climate science.

    Ah, Bruce…according to Biden’s WH climate change is the result of systemic racism.

    All roads lead to intersectionality!

  66. Des Deskperson says:

    ‘I suspect they have a streamlined approach for activists and celebrities.’

    Roger, back in the oughties, there was a woman in my branch who had previously worked in the Governor-General’s Secretariat, in the section that managed to nomination process. According to her, the process was the same for all nominations.

    Her particular job was to help pull together the final nominations, check that all the process boxes were ticked and then pass them on to the Council. The Secretariat made no recommendations.

    Beyond that, they had no idea of how the Council selected the ‘winners’ including the criteria used to determine the level of award. If there were written records of the deliberations, they were never revealed outside the Council. The entire process from the submission of nominations to the Council to the announcement of the awards was a closely guarded secret.

    And no part of the management of the nomination and selection is subject to FOI.

  67. Dot says:

    Fake news?

    https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/90411

    Administering bamlanivimab (formerly LY-CoV555), a monoclonal antibody for COVID-19, along with remdesivir (Veklury) was ineffective for patients hospitalized with COVID-19, a randomized trial found.

    They then later quote a statistical confidence interval with a p-value of 0.20???!

  68. Ed Case says:

    ***The corresponding reality is hard evidence on the CV that they tend not to give a fuck about consequences – either too shitfaced, unnecessary risk takers, sloppy, or ‘rules are for the lesser folk’ arrogant.***
    Nah.
    The reality is that people who do a lot of social drinking as part of their job will have a high tolerance for Alcohol.
    That wasn’t a problem when Police needed a reason to pull a car over and administered their own sobriety test by the roadside.

  69. jupes says:

    There are several classes of people who send their kids to top tier private schools

    – old boys/girls who want the same for their sprogs (includes farmers)
    – wealthy with oodles of money who park the children often in boarding
    – tradies and middle managers who work like demons to pay the fees in the hope that their children will get up a few rungs on the education pole
    – elites who hold their noses at the thought of the first three (particularly 3) and spend their time “don’t you know who I am-ing”, and white-anting out the school’s ethos while basking in the reflected glow of the school’s cachet

    -Single parents whose job takes them away, who use the boarding school as a baby-sitter/surragate parent.

  70. Roger says:

    The entire process from the submission of nominations to the Council to the announcement of the awards was a closely guarded secret.

    And I suspect most of the worthy community volunteers just aren’t “sexy” enough to make the final cut, Des.

    Unless there’s an angle to their story that can feed the activist agenda, that is.

  71. Roger says:

    Anyway, odds on one of the main topics of conversation around the BBQ today will be how gay the Australia Day awards have become.

  72. Terry Pedersen says:

    Des, time to throw away the beer goggles. Red Kezza looked in fine fettle on live TV this morning. None of the physical distortions that your tiny brain conjured up. Principled stand from him as far as I am concerned; gongs should not go to people espousing hate speech. Nor should they be a reward for marrying into WA Liberal royalty. As I said earlier, the awards system should be abolished.

  73. Dr Faustus says:

    The reality is that people who do a lot of social drinking as part of their job will have a high tolerance for Alcohol.

    Yes, I vaguely remember this being run as an argument when blood alcohol levels were first introduced. A close relative of the old ‘I drive better with a couple under my belt’.

    Solid reality.
    Gets Kezza right off the hook.

  74. mh says:

    I said two years ago that it lost the heart of the Australian nation – the people whose peope created and sustain it, in exchamge for a substitute artificially created “nation” that it imported and manufactured
    Now the aussie people are drifting back towards their states as the true and oldest bedrock representations of their people. The power elite are seeing that the commonwealth is a spent force. Perhaps they always hated it and are driving the final nails in now.

    That’s great, but what about the RBA?
    And the trillion dollars of Fed debt?

  75. calli says:

    I was thinking broad classes in my analysis of private schools. And there is a lot of crossover and a few sub-sets. I also did not include “religious instruction” because that means something different to everyone depending on the school.

    For instance, the Beloved and I are 50/50 1 and 3. The children received their religious instruction at Sunday School and home.

  76. Roger says:

    I also did not include “religious instruction” because that means something different to everyone depending on the school.

    Elite private schools have not been overtly religious for decades.

    Often they employed chaplains who undermined the faith.

  77. Terry Pedersen says:

    This Latham character is one of the worst people in Australian Politics, he’s made a career out of throwing shit, but even after 30+ years on the Public tit, who knows what he stands for, apart from the Attention Seeking?

    Well said. + 1,000

  78. Dot says:

    Grigory’s own sockpuppets in congress, much like his vile reproductive acts.

  79. Nick says:

    Re schools, I saw a post on a community social media site talking about the local High School. It would appear that some parents weren’t happy with the Parents and Friends Association allowing students to use their mobile phones in classrooms. You get what you pay for I spoke. I guess some of those Calli has listed are also paying for some common sense and consistency to be administered within the school

  80. 1735099 says:

    I saw him at UNSW in the 80s at an anti Australia card meeting.

    Remember the Australia card?
    John Stone made a big fella of himself about freedom and privacy, but that was before Google knew everything you bought, everyone you communicated with on-line, and predicted, with accuracy, your daily routines.
    Much ado about nothing…

  81. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Red Kezza looked in fine fettle on live TV this morning. None of the physical distortions that your tiny brain conjured up. Principled stand from him

    Haha. I would call it an unprincipled stand since the ABC have no principles other than lies and false witness, and he’s been fully on board his whole career with them from what I can recall (I avoid watching him or the ABC these days). He certainly is unable to accept a Christian moral position nor of any right to free speech.

  82. Arky says:

    There are two types of people sending their children to elite private schools:
    1. The children of the CCP.
    2. Those wanting to avoid the atrocities of state education.
    3. Snobs.

  83. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Much ado about nothing…

    Haha, tell that to the HK people that HSBC has de-banked.
    And increasingly Republican voters in the US.

    The Children’s Table (Don Surber, 25 Jan)

    This is a mild inconvenience, of course [being kicked off Twitter]. And as Glenn Reynolds and others have pointed out, social media is toxic and people are better off without it.

    However, these banishments are only a taste of what to expect next as we are othered in areas that matter, such as commerce. Donald John Trump is their guinea pig. Once they threw him off Twitter, anyone could be bounced.

    Banks are now denying him service.

    The Hill reported, “A Florida bank announced Thursday that it has closed down former President Trump’s account, joining a growing list of entities that have cut ties with the former president following the deadly Jan. 6 Capitol riot.

    “In his financial disclosures, Trump had stated he had two money-market accounts with Banks United, The Washington Post reports. The accounts held somewhere between $5.1 million and $25.2 million.”

    The deadly riot consisted of Capitol Police shooting and killing an unarmed woman who trespassed (along with others).

    But that is the excuse used to refuse service to a man because of his beliefs. This is a bizarre situation in which the state orders you to bake a cake despite your beliefs but will allow the bank to not let you cash the customer’s check because of your beliefs.

    As we go to a cashless society, the Internet Oligarchs stand ready to make millions of conservatives non-persons in their own land. How will we do business?

    How would you like to be de-banked Numbers?

  84. Des Deskperson says:

    ‘Des, time to throw away the beer goggles. Red Kezza looked in fine fettle on live TV this morning.’

    Did they show his enormous swag belly? If you have ever seen him in the flesh – as I have – it’s rather noticeable and the ABC camera people always took great pains to avoid it showing up on the screen. They couldn’t seem to avoid it in the Clive James interview.

    Having a bloated gut has, of course, nothing to do with the quality of his reporting or whether he did or did not deserve an AO. But you did challenge me on the issue of appearance.

    As for a principled stand, Dr Tuck – a quiet achiever – made a principled stand. Dunno so much about a self-promoter like Kezza.

    And I agree, the awards should be abolished.

  85. Top Ender says:

    Police at the Invasion Day rally in Sydney have stopped the march from going ahead.

    Organisers have been told that police will “smash us if we take to the streets,” so they instead told the crowd to disperse, NITV reporter Rachel Hocking wrote on Twitter.

    The crowd has been dispersed by police.

    Protesters have clashed with police in Hyde Park, Sky News reports.

    Oz

  86. Dot says:

    Much ado about nothing…

    If you want communism and make excuses for genocide.

  87. Top Ender says:

    Hilarious….Sydney mayor takes part in protest shut down by Sydney police:

    As ‘Invasion Day’ protests roll out across the country on Australia Day, Melbourne Lord Mayor Sally Capp has attended a protest ‘dawn service’.

    She joined dozens or people in the rain at Kings Domain at 5.30am, at an event described by organisers as a commemoration of ‘all Sovereign First peoples who defended and died in the Frontier Wars, massacres across Australia, as well as those who continue to die in custody”.

    It began with a traditional smoking ceremony, and proceeded with the council’s blessing – which copped criticism for its support which included logistics and COVID-safety.

  88. Roger says:

    Organisers have been told that police will “smash us if we take to the streets,” so they instead told the crowd to disperse, NITV reporter Rachel Hocking wrote on Twitter.

    I was so looking forward to the chant:

    “Wadda ya want? A million dollars! When do ya want it? Now!”

  89. duncanm says:

    Top Ender
    #3737651, posted on January 26, 2021 at 12:17 pm

    Police at the Invasion Day rally in Sydney have stopped the march from going ahead.

    as much as I applaud NSW plod for being consistent and knocking a few swampies on the head (unlike Vicplod).. this is still a grave violation of our liberty.

  90. Des Deskperson says:

    ‘Principled stand from him’

    Speaking of ‘principled’, i haven’t seen the programme, but was O’Brien ‘principled’ enough, in his ‘Conversation with Paul Keating,’ to raise the issue of Keating’s support for his ‘Pak’ Suharto’s massacre of 700,000 Indonesians in 1965?

  91. Ed Case says:

    Sending people who had no reason nor interest in being there to High School is what fucked Public Education
    Prior to 1964 in Qld, Grade 8 was all that was required or you could leave school the year you turned 14.
    When the State Coalition Government sent Grade 8s to high School in 1964, they decided they might as well hang around for years 9 and 10.
    They didn’t even have enough Specialist Teachers to accommodate the huge influx.
    It turbocharged Schools as employers tho, Admin, Support and Grounds Staff now outnumber teachers.

  92. candy says:

    A swollen fluid filled belly and raddled face the signs of a long term heavy drinker. Maybe he has stopped now because life shortening if he was big boozer.

  93. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Reminder.

    The Earth keeps ending in fire and apocalypse, over and over, yet I never seem to notice it happening. I should ask Prince Charles why that is, but he may just tell me to eat cake.

  94. Geriatric Mayfly says:

    In the course of catching up on the Great Liberator, I find he was a source of inspiration for millions. Constantly badgered his father for money, until the old man had had enough. Skipped his father’s funeral. Then started on his mother, who went on for another 20 years. Visited her once, reluctantly, in that time but only to cadge money. Then had a lawyer make sure her will bequeathed all that was due. His next target was Engels himself, whose considerable wealth allowed greater indulgence towards the Moocher.
    Marx, of course, who never held a job in his life; which if he did, may have helped alleviate the poverty to which his family were condemned.

  95. Ed Case says:

    Does Red Kezza have a monstrous Beer Belly, or a Paunch?
    While the BB is a dead giveaway, a Paunch may be the result of Vanity, years of holding the abdominal muscles in contraction weakens those muscles to the point that all tone is lost and the Paunch falls forward and down.

  96. Top Ender says:

    Ed, re your comments over eduction…

    In 1986 over the Christmas break the Hawke government made the school system even worse.

    They changed the dole laws so anyone under a certain age couldn’t get unemployment unless they were in a registered educational institution.

    The retention rate for students went from around 32% to around 65% over the break.

    A bloke I know well was teaching English at the time in Qld, and was promptly sent to Rockhampton to team-write a new English subject for those students with low literacy who now had to do an English subject in year 11.

    From memory it was called General English, and below that there was another created called Bridging English. Promptly known in-house as Vegie English I and II.

    Down the corridor were maths teams doing the same.

    And other teams creating subjects such as Photography, and “Community Studies” and so on.

    In one school locally the new subject of “Landscaping” resulted in one of the girls managing to run over her own foot with a lawnmower.

    And so, here we are.

  97. johanna says:

    Des Deskperson
    #3737571, posted on January 26, 2021 at 11:21 am

    ‘Well I hope Garret is sorry for what happened when he was a Commonwealth minister. ‘

    Garrett was a dupe and a patsy. PM&C had infiltrated his Department and he hadn’t a clue.

    I’ve always had the impression that, despite being hailed as a musical/environmental/political genius over four decades, he wasn’t too bright.

    Yes, Garrett was the patsy, but as you point out, he was also an incompetent Minister, or he wouldn’t have allowed himself to be duped and hung out to dry the way he was.

    I knew him very well for about 20 years, and he is far from stupid, but a political naif. There are plenty of otherwise intelligent people who simply don’t get politics, and especially how the bureaucracy interacts with politics. He certainly didn’t. Mind you, it takes a lot of application to learn it, and it doesn’t happen overnight either.

    In his music business life, he had managers to handle all the messy stuff, although he is quite good at making and keeping and growing money.

    When Bob Hawke was PM, Labor approached him to run for the Senate. He asked me what I thought about it, and I was not encouraging, knowing him as I did.

    ‘They are not nice people, Peter.’

    As he found out to his cost, later on.

  98. Megan says:

    Arky

    #3737646, posted on January 26, 2021 at 12:12 pm

    There are two types of people sending their children to elite private schools:
    1. The children of the CCP.
    2. Those wanting to avoid the atrocities of state education.
    3. Snobs.

    I’ll take 2 for the money, Arky. And, for the first time ever, today I’m regretting that decision as the two that went on to university are now buyers of the black arm band narrative so slickly and professionally marketed across multiple channels.
    That six figure sum would be very welcome right now.

  99. Rex Anger says:

    While the BB is a dead giveaway, a Paunch may be the result of Vanity, years of holding the abdominal muscles in contraction weakens those muscles to the point that all tone is lost and the Paunch falls forward and down.

    Personal experience, Grigory?

    Or just your usual trollshit?

    Inquiring Cats with more knowledge of human physiology than you wanna know…

    *If merely holding the body up and in- Which is what the human muscular structure does- Weakens it over time, then all humans would resemble collapsed tents…

  100. Snoopy says:

    I also did not include “religious instruction” because that means something different to everyone depending on the school.

    Nor did you mention families in temote areas where the local high school is not just a bus ride away.

  101. Ed Case says:

    A fan of Red Kezza, are you, Rexy?
    I’ve long had my suspicions about you, young fella.

  102. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Tweet of the day goes to Titania McGrath. Twerk ’em if you got ’em.

    (via Instapundit’s Ed Driscoll, who isn’t sure it’s satirical or not.)

  103. Rex Anger says:

    A fan of Red Kezza, are you, Rexy?
    I’ve long had my suspicions about you, young fella.

    Superb ‘answer’ to my question Grigory.

    Are you confirming that your ‘paunch’ trollshit is exactly that.

    I don’t care for Kerry- I came to kick you!

    Now try actually answering my question, or go cry in your sock-darning circle…

  104. Rafiki says:

    Army’s no. 2 explanation certainly explains a great deal of the growth in the non-State sector. There are some other factors. One is that the boys only schools provide a mentally safer environment for reasons that are obvious to most Cats. Secondly, where parents divorce, the private school can provide an environment that affords a point of stability in the life of the child.

  105. Rafiki says:

    Apologies Arky.

  106. K2 says:

    The Animal Justice member who shares the balance of power in the Victorian upper house. Here.

  107. Struth says:

    The answer is: “Underlying transphobic”, Casual Racist” and “Covid-19 victim”.

    The question is: What are 3 things you can be and not know it?

  108. Ed Case says:

    Thanks for that, Top Ender, it would be interesting to know how many HS students who did grade 12 in the Double Intake year of 1964 returned to Rockhampton to settle after University/Teachers College studies.
    Not many, i’d guess.
    The effects of generational Brain Drain fro0m Provincial Cities?
    Mayor Pineapple: https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/politics/queensland/rocky-s-almost-accidental-mayor-hopes-to-avoid-rough-end-of-the-pineapple-20210112-p56tl4.html</

  109. miltonf says:

    The marxist-gangster-oligarch putsch is going the full shock and awe.

  110. 1735099 says:

    How would like to be de-banked, Numbers?

    If I had attempted to illegally hold on to power by treasonous manipulation of the media, and intimidation of state governments, I would have deserved a lot more than de-banking.

  111. Ed Case says:

    Rexy:
    I suspect you are a Fake Conservative, who attempts to lead good conservatives such as Roger, Candy, and Twostix astray.
    Not to mention your deleterious effect on well meaning Reactionaries like Leigh, Nick, Matrix, Knuckle Dragger, Struth and The Frolickingmole.

  112. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    Woke is death

  113. Rex Anger says:

    Rexy:
    I suspect you are a Fake Conservative, who attempts to lead good conservatives such as Roger, Candy, and Twostix astray.
    Not to mention your deleterious effect on well meaning Reactionaries like Leigh, Nick, Matrix, Knuckle Dragger, Struth and The Frolickingmole.

    Pissweak Grigory.

    I asked you what your knowledge of human anatomy and physiology was.

    You have answered with utter gibberish.

    Stop Buteyko breathing your own farts and change socks.

    Try posting as Flatus or Terry Pedant.

    Or better still, go throw your shoes at the crystalline salt packets and carbohydrate-laden food in the shelves at your local Coles…

  114. feelthebern says:

    Newsom cancels the stay at home orders for California.
    LA County outdoor dining ban lifted.

  115. miltonf says:

    Get a load of this old k*nt
    As Republicans call into question the legalities of the trial, reports emerged Monday that Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT), Senate president pro tempore, will preside over the impeachment trial in lieu of Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts because the trial does not involve a sitting president. Roberts has not commented on the matter.
    Patrick Joseph Leahy (/ˈleɪhi/; born March 31, 1940) is an American politician serving as the President pro tempore of the United States Senate, and as the senior United States Senator from Vermont. Leahy was first elected to the Senate in 1975, and previously served as President pro tempore from 2012 to 2015.

    A member of the Democratic Party, he is now in his eighth term of office. He is the senior most member of the Senate, and the last of the Senate’s “Watergate Babies”–Democrats first elected to Congress in 1974, following President Richard Nixon’s 1974 resignation over the Watergate scandal.[1] Leahy is also the only sitting senator to have served during Gerald Ford’s presidency, and one of just two to have served during Jimmy Carter’s term.[a]

  116. Terry Pedersen says:

    Having a bloated gut has, of course, nothing to do with the quality of …

    Yes, and I would posit that having the head and neck of a Galapagos turtle is totally unremarkable on the anatomy of the newly promoted ex-tennis player as a determinant of her predilection to the promotion of conversion therapy for LGBTQI people.

  117. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Haha, Numbers thinks it would be ok to de-bank Joe Biden.

  118. Dot says:

    Can we petition to boot Grigory?

    Just a garbage tier troll.

    It’s like watching a boxing card on PPV and you watch Sonny Bill Williams beat up an old tramp nearly thrice his age.

    m0nty, we loves ya babes. 😘

    We don’t know how good we had it, damn it.

  119. notafan says:

    I thought Peter Garrett went to a boy’s only high school?

  120. Dot says:

    Far out.

    Rand Paul kicked arse.

    George Mopatopalous is such a cocksucker.

  121. notafan says:

    ‘This comment above is actionable ‘

    Apart from being one of the dumbest claims I’ve seen from the resident expert on everything, regular threats to take legal action against other cats ought to be ban hammer material.

  122. Dot says:

    ‘This comment above is actionable ‘

    No. Just no.

  123. Roger says:

    Newsom cancels the stay at home orders for California.
    LA County outdoor dining ban lifted.

    He was missing French Laundry soooo much.

  124. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Microsoft wants your soul.

    Microsoft patent would let us chat with the departed (25 Jan)

    “Creating a Conversational Chat Bot of a Specific Person” is the dry but accurate title of a patent filed by Dustin Abramson and Joseph Johnson Jr. of Microsoft in 2017 and approved this month.

    The patent states that the chat bot could use information gathered from social media posts, images, voice data, electronic messages, written letters and other personal data provided by the individual or others acting on the individual’s behalf “to converse and interact in the personality of the specific person.”

    Users would be able to chat with the departed, asking questions about momentous events in their lives or just calling to say they love them. They could do so over a cellphone, desktop computer or with personal assistants such as Alexa or Siri.

    And they’ll vote Democrat whenever you want them to also.

  125. duncanm says:

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3737752, posted on January 26, 2021 at 1:59 pm

    Microsoft wants your soul.

    Microsoft patent would let us chat with the departed (25 Jan)

    “Creating a Conversational Chat Bot of a Specific Person” is the dry but accurate title of a patent filed by Dustin Abramson and Joseph Johnson Jr. of Microsoft in 2017 and approved this month.

    Do you really want to find out your dear departed was a Nazi?

  126. Leigh Lowe says:

    Dot

    #3737746, posted on January 26, 2021 at 1:43 pm

    ‘This comment above is actionable ‘

    No. Just no.

    Hilarious.
    Poster A makes a general comment about people who throw baseless accusations of peter-filia around about all sorts of public figures. Poster A does not raise real names or screen names of either the accusers or their targets.
    Poster B weighs in with a “you talkin’ about me. That’s actionable.”
    Ah, no.
    No, it isn’t.
    But here’s another thing.
    People in glass houses.
    Anyone mounting a spurious action for defamation (how an anonymous on-line persona can be defamed is a story for another day) needs to be careful that they haven’t posted anything on-line which is actually defamatory of a real person in the real world.
    So easy to track.

  127. H B Bear says:

    Australia Day is a reminder it is about time to get back to work. Some time in April or May you stop working for the government and start to get to keep what you earn.

  128. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Quiet. Too quiet.
    Must be nap time.

    Afternoon napping linked to better mental agility (25 Jan)

    Taking a regular afternoon nap may be linked to better mental agility, suggests research published in the online journal General Psychiatry.

    It seems to be associated with better locational awareness, verbal fluency, and working memory, the findings indicate.

    The researchers explored this further in 2214 ostensibly healthy people aged at least 60 and resident in several large cities around China, including Beijing, Shanghai, and Xian.

    In all, 1534 took a regular afternoon nap, while 680 didn’t. All participants underwent a series of health checks and cognitive assessments, including the Mini Mental State Exam (MMSE) to check for dementia.

    The average length of night time sleep was around 6.5 hours in both groups.

    Afternoon naps were defined as periods of at least five consecutive minutes of sleep, but no more than 2 hours, and taken after lunch. Participants were asked how often they napped during the week; this ranged from once a week to every day.

    The dementia screening tests included 30 items that measured several aspects of cognitive ability, and higher function, including visuo-spatial skills, working memory, attention span, problem solving, locational awareness and verbal fluency.

    The MMSE cognitive performance scores were significantly higher among the nappers than they were among those who didn’t nap. And there were significant differences in locational awareness, verbal fluency, and memory.

    This is an observational study, and so can’t establish cause.

    Sleep well Cats.

  129. calli says:

    Arky

    #3737646, posted on January 26, 2021 at 12:12 pm

    There are two types of people sending their children to elite private schools:
    1. The children of the CCP.
    2. Those wanting to avoid the atrocities of state education.
    3. Snobs.

    🤣

  130. calli says:

    We are all now on the outside of a leg of lamb and accompaniments. The Beloved is having a snooze to improve his mental agility.

  131. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Taking a regular afternoon nap may be linked to better mental agility, suggests research published in the online journal General Psychiatry.

    When we were borrowing customs from other cultures, to make up the multicultural society, where is the fool who passed up the siesta?

  132. Bushkid says:

    calli
    #3737521, posted on January 26, 2021 at 10:54 am
    There are several classes of people who send their kids to top tier private schools

    – old boys/girls who want the same for their sprogs (includes farmers)

    All too often boarding school is the only viable option for secondary school for the country kids. Often, the same school as the parent/s is the most practical one. We country bumpkins didn’t all go to boarding schools because we actually enjoyed it!

  133. Steve trickler says:

    Art.

    Worthy of a bookmark. It goes for an hour.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wazg6u3ESco

  134. calli says:

    Nor did you mention families in temote areas where the local high school is not just a bus ride away.

    I did. “Farmers” was to be loosely read as “rural”.

  135. Nick says:

    This comment above is actionable ‘

    A strange reaction to something that didn’t actually have that poster in mind.

  136. Knuckle Dragger says:

    One of the two NT PSM recipients:

    ‘Ms Jodie Elizabeth RYAN, Darwin NT 0800
    For outstanding public service to the community of the Northern Territory through a range of roles.’

    She’s currently the CEO of the Department of the Chief Minister. This is part of her citation:

    ‘During her career she has negotiated significant outcomes on behalf of the Northern Territory Government including the Port of Darwin Lease; Remote Housing Funding and the Darwin City Deal.’

    And yet, somehow, despite these three monumental failures, she was rewarded.

  137. will says:

    A

    nd yet, somehow, despite these three monumental failures, she was rewarded.

    The CCP and your fascist overlords do not consider them a failure.

  138. Eyrie says:

    I was also wondering about the prospects of Elon Musk going up against Newsom

    Cassie, Musk now lives in Texas and anyway has a far more important job getting us off this rock.
    Looks like another launch attempt of SN9 tomorrow at Boca Chica (aka “the rocket shipyard”).

  139. Rockdoctor says:

    Well said Tucker and even old Rupert. We are indeed going into dark times…

    Roger. Agree on the cross river tunnel. Like the Townsville ‘Lancini’ Stadium an absolute waste of money. The stretch on the Gregory Developmental rd that I referenced is actually 2 stretches of about 10km each one near the Mazeppa National park ant the second not far from the Elgin Downs turn off. Pretty sure on blacksoil plains, absolute devil of ground after rain. The road there used to be unsealed and I could keep a contant 80km/h once safely. The surface though sealed these days is that rough now the speed limit is 80 and at 60 I had the suspension kissing bump rubbers on occasion. It is beyond dangerous now as the bitumen hides depressions but the reactive way works are allocated I think it will take people dying or a big cyclonic associated flood to get a result…

    The much more travelled road between Emerald to Clermont was in poor repair as well.

  140. Some History says:

    Top Ender
    #3737654, posted on January 26, 2021 at 12:19 pm
    Hilarious….Sydney mayor takes part in protest shut down by Sydney police:
    As ‘Invasion Day’ protests roll out across the country on Australia Day, Melbourne Lord Mayor Sally Capp has attended a protest ‘dawn service’.
    She joined dozens or people in the rain at Kings Domain at 5.30am, at an event described by organisers as a commemoration of ‘all Sovereign First peoples who defended and died in the Frontier Wars, massacres across Australia, as well as those who continue to die in custody”.
    It began with a traditional smoking ceremony, and proceeded with the council’s blessing – which copped criticism for its support which included logistics and COVID-safety.

    The Melbourne mayor, Silly Crapp, and the MCC are a woke piece of work. It seems that Crapp, unless wearing a gas mask, was not bothered by the smoke in the smoking ceremony.

    The MCC has a “vision” – to ban smoking in the entire CBD by 2025. Problem is there’s no scientific justification for outdoor smoking bans – not even manufactured “science”.

    Here’s Melbourne City Council’s latest globalist brain fart unto the “Therapeutic State”, a variant of Statism in the Eugenics lineage

    The City of Melbourne council is pushing to ban smoking and vaping in public spaces across the CBD within five years.
    The council is also considering outlawing smoking at council-run and permitted events by 2025.
    :

    The City of Melbourne has a vision to become a smoke-free city where everyone can breathe easy.
    We know that smoking is still the biggest contributor to preventable disease and deaths in Australia and there is more work to be done.

    As part of the global Partnership for Healthy Cities network — an initiative of Bloomberg Philanthropies, the World Health Organization and Vital Strategies — we have developed a discussion paper and a draft policy to help us achieve our vision. The draft policy will assist in the planning and delivery of more smoke-free areas and other activities to support people to quit and reduce smoking in our city.

    https://participate.melbourne.vic.gov.au/smoke-free-melbourne?fbclid=IwAR34vsgoITT-XHGH6VnQa4n8BlQeHvapqbzud0AWzv9Wnv2oOJjgE3bxHlw

    Lil Mike Bloomborg is a rabid antismoker. He’s pumped hundreds of millions of dollars into the World Health Organization (WHO) for antismoking purposes. Bloomborg “Philanthropies” also funds “Partnership for Healthy Cities”. Amongst the funders of Vital Strategies are Bloomborg, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerborg. So, the Melbourne City Council has bought into the unelected and unaccountable globalist WHO/billionaires’ club [deranged] “vision” for humanity.

  141. JC says:

    US Inspector General going after people for election fraud. People in Trump’s side.

    We’re in a parallel universe now.

    The Justice Department’s inspector general said Monday his office will investigate whether department officials “engaged in an improper attempt” to overturn President Biden’s victory in the 2020 election.

    The announcement comes after news reports that former President Donald Trump considered moving to replace the acting attorney general with another official ready to pursue unsubstantiated claims of election fraud. The Wall Street Journal also reported that Mr. Trump pushed the Justice Department to ask the Supreme Court to invalidate Mr. Biden’s win.

    Inspector General Michael Horowitz said in a statement that his office will probe “whether any former or current DOJ official engaged in an improper attempt to have DOJ seek to alter the outcome of the 2020 Presidential Election,” adding only that the investigation will “encompass all allegations that may arise that are within the scope” of its jurisdiction.

    The swamp is very evil and also very dangerous.

  142. Some History says:

    UPDATE The CON JOB

    In anything to do with antismoking, it can reasonably be expected that there’s some major inflammatory junk in there somewhere. Not only is there no scientific basis (i.e., passive smoke “hazard”) for any outdoor bans, let alone smoking bans for an entire CBD or suburb, but the MCC “vision” has another level of junk.

    Having made itself a partner in Partnership for Healthy Cities, the MCC got to select one of 14 interventions to prevent non-communicable diseases and injury. The MCC has chosen option 1 –

    1. Create a smoke-free city
    Introduce, pass and enforce legislation and regulations to make all indoor public places, workplaces and public transport 100% smoke-free

    https://www.vitalstrategies.org/programs/partnership-for-healthy-cities/

    Note that the option concerns indoor spaces, not outdoor. Yet the MCC has done a sleight-of-hand, erroneously turning the focus onto outdoor spaces. And the MCC is pushing the falsehood of protecting nonsmokers from “passive smoke” as a major justification for extensive outdoor smoking bans.

    Advancing the inflammatory propaganda that nonsmokers need to be protected from outdoor “passive smoke” promotes mental dysfunction; it promotes more irrational belief/fear/hatred amongst the gullible and already neurotic nonsmokers. These baseless smoking bans are an exercise in snobbery, bigotry.

  143. Some History says:

    INVITATION Let them know that you know that the MCC is severely misrepresenting the Vital Strategies “Create a Smoke Free City”.

    The public is invited to comment on the MCC’s antismoking “vision”.

    There’s a short survey with a link about 2/3 of the way down this page –

    https://participate.melbourne.vic.gov.au/smoke-free-melbourne?fbclid=IwAR34vsgoITT-XHGH6VnQa4n8BlQeHvapqbzud0AWzv9Wnv2oOJjgE3bxHlw

    Hit the “Start” link

    It’s a short survey – 19 questions. Some questions have an “other” option where text can be entered. Although an email address is requested at the end of the survey, submissions seem to be accepted even if the email question is left blank.

  144. miltonf says:

    Yes Trump took on some very evil and dangerous people.

  145. miltonf says:

    Blasting DC of the face of the earth would be good for the USA.

  146. Boambee John says:

    If I had attempted to illegally hold on to power by treasonous manipulation of the media, and intimidation of state governments, I would have deserved a lot more than de-banking.

    The ostrich continues with the Big Lie.

  147. Makka says:

    The Justice Department’s inspector general said Monday his office will investigate whether department officials “engaged in an improper attempt” to overturn President Biden’s victory in the 2020 election.

    Years of purging, intimidation and inquisition ahead. If you’re lucky enough to save your job there will be re-education cams and pledges to sign. Party affiliations and membership may be necessary. Those who want to dob in to get ahead will have a field day, careers will be accelerated, opponents and competitors vanquished. HR Depts will go full on CHEKA searching out counter- demorats and independents.

  148. Zippy:
    The video on “Junior Spies” in GB, and the threats of ‘rewriting’ the first amendment, and the recent election of an administration who promised “We’re coming for your guns.”
    A new Dark Age is looming over the West, and the failure to rouse the peasants from the couches, is scary.
    The New Brahman Caste is looking like a juggernaut.

  149. Eyrie says:

    Blasting DC of the face of the earth would be good for the USA.

    Didn’t the Brits sack and burn it in 1812? I bet half the US citizens wish they’d do it again.

  150. Boambee John says:

    Terry Pedersen
    #3737733, posted on January 26, 2021 at 1:29 pm
    Having a bloated gut has, of course, nothing to do with the quality of …

    Yes, and I would posit that having the head and neck of a Galapagos turtle is totally unremarkable on the anatomy of the newly promoted ex-tennis player as a determinant of her predilection to the promotion of conversion therapy for LGBTQI people.

    Meeeeoooowwww!

  151. Dot says:

    How did we get here? The “Brahmin class” are useless outside of litigating people to death.

  152. thefrollickingmole says:

    Dear grigglebot

    Go molest mummies minge you misanthropic mongoloid moron.
    Such a low rent individual

  153. Dot says:

    So the DFBI (Democrat Federal Bureau of Investigation) has arrested the #WalkAway founder, no one who invaded Congress back in prior months or years will ever be charged.

    This is just fantastic, let the Biden family healing commence.

  154. DrBeauGan says:

    It’s a beautiful Australia Day here in Perth. I forgot to get a leg of lamb yesterday, so I’m making up for it by eating chocolate and ice-cream. My diet is totally blown.

    Have a good Oz day everyone, and ignore the loonies. Nobody should get upset about what stupid grifters say.

  155. miltonf says:

    USA has gone the full USSR.

  156. BrettW says:

    What has Walkaway founder been arrested for ? I mean other than promoting a FB page for people who left the Dems. Treason ?

    Better be good reason because he had 500,000 members on that FB page who won’t be happy. Guessing some of them still know a few still clinging to supporting Dems.

  157. notafan says:

    Yeah stupid grifters.

  158. Rockdoctor says:

    US Inspector General going after people for election fraud. People in Trump’s side.

    We’re in a parallel universe now.

    Wow this for real. It’s as if they want a real insurrection and having met US marines in Townsville on occasion all to a t were very conservitive. Good luck with that army when the plebs snap and they refuse to shoot or obey orders.

  159. DrBeauGan says:

    Yeah stupid grifters.

    I was thinking of the change Australia Day loons, not you, notaclue.

  160. miltonf says:

    It’s shock ‘n’ awe now.

  161. Rex Anger says:

    It’s a beautiful Australia Day here in Perth

    It is down at Dwellingup, too.

    Gorgeous day to run trains. 🙂

    Next departure is 2PM, Cats!

  162. Runnybum says:

    Mini me, I was following the posts & I knew who exactly who you aimed it at.
    Trying to walk it back isn’t going to work.

  163. miltonf says:

    Does Waters really believe the sludge she vomits up or does someone write it for her?
    Maxine Moore Waters (née Carr, August 15, 1938) is an American politician serving as the U.S. Representative for California’s 43rd congressional district since 1991. The district, numbered as the 29th district from 1991 to 1993 and as the 35th district from 1993 to 2013, includes much of southern Los Angeles, as well as portions of Gardena, Inglewood and Torrance.

    A member of the Democratic Party, Waters is currently in her 15th term in the House. She is the most senior of the twelve black women currently serving in Congress, and she chaired the Congressional Black Caucus from 1997 to 1999.[1] She is the second most senior member of the California congressional delegation after Nancy Pelosi. She is currently the chairwoman of the House Financial Services Committee.

    Before becoming a U.S. Representative, Waters served in the California State Assembly, to which she was first elected in 1976. As an assemblywoman, she advocated divestment from South Africa’s apartheid regime. In Congress, she has been an outspoken opponent of the Iraq War and has sharply criticized Republican Presidents George H. W. Bush, George W. Bush, and Donald Trump,[2] as well as Democratic President Barack Obama.[3]

    Waters was included in Time magazine’s 100 Most Influential People of 2018.[4]

    Another repulsive old woman

  164. notafan says:

    Sorry about that, I thought you meant your good self DrBG.

  165. jupes says:

    The Justice Department’s inspector general said Monday his office will investigate …

    This is the same clown who investigated Peter Strzok’s texts and found no bias against Trump.

    The fact that he is still working there shows just how powerful the swamp is.

  166. Boambee John:

    The 107-page complaint and demand for a jury trial claimed Mr Giuliani and his allies manufactured and disseminated the “Big Lie”, which “deceived millions of people into thinking that Dominion had stolen their votes and fixed the election.”

    Discovery should be fun!

    This has the potential for developing into a very interesting own goal by Dominion. I certainly hope they aren’t allowed to get out of the discovery phase.

  167. notafan says:

    The goodnight Tweedledum arrives on his rusty donkey, rattle raised high, ready to do battle on behalf of perennial victim, St Ruth.

  168. miltonf says:

    Gosh there must be a big demand for incontinence aids on capitol hill.

  169. miltonf says:

    Congress must smell like a nursing home.

  170. Nick says:

    The goodnight Tweedledum arrives on his rusty donkey, rattle raised high, ready to do battle on behalf of perennial victim, St Ruth.

    Possessing his Doctorate in wrongology

  171. Struth:

    Frank , Nick has come in proving my point that you guys are putting MV’s words in my mouth.
    You need to have a little word in his ear………
    Remember there is now a duty of care for all gang leaders, no matter how small the gang.

    Kaysee has been trying to alert us to the dangers inherent in the governments new “anti bullying and calling people rude names” Laws.
    It makes for interesting reading as one goes through the various ’empowerment’ stuff…

  172. Bushkid says:

    Rockdoctor

    …the reactive way works are allocated I think it will take people dying or a big cyclonic associated flood to get a result…

    “Reactive roadworks” are indeed a thing.

    I travel the northern portion of the Burnett Hwy a lot, and it’s also sited on a fair amount of black soil and other soils that don’t support roads too well over time. One of my clients out there was driving literally the next vehicle behind a caravan that became unhitched on one of the numerous “rough surface” sections last year. That little section, barely 1 km if that, is now upgraded and resurfaced. The local council admitted that they don’t make repairs until there is an accident. Complain all you like, but there won’t be action until something has gone badly wrong for some unsuspecting motorist and their family.

    I don’t get very far up the “Beef” road towards Clermont, but I’m told it’s pretty awful. Pity the livestock that regularly travel these roads in trucks too.

  173. Geriatric Mayfly says:

    Another repulsive old woman

    Mad Maxine has found a new lease on life. Once again she is braying her mating call from the donkey sanctuary, Impeach, Impeach…

  174. JC says:

    The Influence peddler in chief and kid sniffer is decomposing before out very eyes..but hey, the white House has life again.

    This morning CNN’s Kate Bennett reports:

    The new President and first lady settled in at the White House this weekend, and did so with extended Biden family members.

    “The residence has life in it again,” a White House source told CNN of the energy inside. “It’s the honeymoon period where everything feels new.”

    There were nighttime movie binges in the White House movie theater, complete with snacks from the White House kitchen cooks, many of the Bidens’ five older grandchildren piling into the seats to watch, said another source familiar with the activities. The increased activity was met with pandemic precautions, including mask wearing…

    “The family was good about it,” said the White House source of adherence to mask-wearing and being socially distant from staffers.

  175. miltonf says:

    Hard to believe it but I think Congress is even worse than our wretched pollimuppetts.

  176. MatrixTransform says:

    Rexy:
    I suspect you are a Fake Conservative

    What?
    You dirty rotten double dealing bastard, have you desecrated another holy cow?

  177. JC says:

    In other more relevant news, Bunter Hiden gets bagels and coffee.

    https://images.wsj.net/im-289961?width=1260&size=1.5

  178. Dr Faustus says:

    The opposition leader says it’s time to have a debate about how to move forward “in a way that truly unites the nation”.

    Opposition leader Anthony Albanese says a referendum on constitutional recognition for Indigenous Australians should be held on 26 January to bridge the “divisive debate” around Australia Day.

    Mr Albanese said his idea was aimed at repairing divisions exposed by Australia’s national holiday.

    On the piss since before breakfast.

  179. jupes says:

    “The family was good about it,” said the White House source of adherence to mask-wearing and being socially distant from staffers.

    I doubt that it requires the bat-flu for Biden family members to be “good about” socially distancing from staffers.

  180. MatrixTransform says:

    On this most holy week-ends,

    I’d like to nominate Nick Scali as Strayan of the year for services to furniture.

    And may my missus be forever tormented in a never-ending search in vain for the perfect leather colour

  181. jupes says:

    Opposition leader Anthony Albanese says a referendum on constitutional recognition for Indigenous Australians should be held on 26 January to bridge the “divisive debate” around Australia Day.

    Mr Albanese said his idea was aimed at repairing divisions exposed by Australia’s national holiday.

    Somehow I don’t think the Abos will be too happy about “repairing divisions” after the nation votes no (again) to constitutional recognition.

  182. Nick says:

    Opposition leader Anthony Albanese says a referendum on constitutional recognition for Indigenous Australians should be held on 26 January to bridge the “divisive debate” around Australia Day.

    It’s almost as if he is working for the ‘No’ side lol. Imagine the vote after the usual weeks’ high jinx of ‘give us $1m’.

  183. JC says:

    I’d like to nominate Nick Scali as Strayan of the year for services to furniture.

    Maxi, Nick’s ads has the best collection of sheilas of any ad on TV.

  184. H B Bear says:

    Albo seems to have forgotten the Golden Rule of Australian politics – there are no votes in blackfella issues.

  185. MatrixTransform says:

    Nick’s ads has the best collection of sheilas of any ad on TV.

    Well, after this week end’s tour of every damn store in Melbourne, I can guarantee that none of them shielas work on the floor in sales on a long weekend

  186. Pedro the Loafer says:

    Opposition leader Anthony Albanese says a referendum on constitutional recognition for Indigenous Australians should be held on 26 January

    It will never happen. Virtue signalling at eleventy by Albo.

    As any fule kno, any such referendum would fail massively.

  187. H B Bear says:

    Well, after this week end’s tour of every damn store in Melbourne, I can guarantee that none of them shielas work on the floor in sales on a long weekend

    Try Space in Richmond. Only the finest of fine arts graduates I suspect. Best not to look at the price tags though.

  188. johanna says:

    Like Joe Biden, Albanese’s solution to division is for everyone to shut up and do what he wants.

    They’re not very imaginative, are they?

  189. Dr Faustus says:

    As any fule kno

    Molesworth rides again…

  190. Pedro the Loafer says:

    Molesworth rides again…

    well picked up, Doc. 🙂

  191. JC says:

    Try Space in Richmond

    Dickhead Gerry Harvey owns Space.

  192. Terry Pedersen says:

    Opposition leader Anthony Albanese says a referendum on constitutional recognition for Indigenous Australians should be held on 26 January

    Smart move. Albo knows it would be soundly defeated if held on Australia Day.

  193. johanna says:

    Grigory are a wet and a weed.

  194. H B Bear says:

    Endorsed by Gargooglery.

    Albo’s fucked.

  195. Old Lefty says:

    I have no time for the Proud Boys, but have a look at this from ‘our’ ABC:

    “Is there something wrong with being a patriot?” the man asked, as members of the protest tried to move him away from the group.

    “You racist f**k,” one person yelled at him. Another person kicked a ball he was carrying out of his hands.

    His Australian flag was removed and a small scuffle broke out as protesters tried to move him.

    He was surrounded by police and removed from the crowd, before being handcuffed and escorted away.

    He gets abused, jostled and assaulted, and the police arrest him! Yarragrad is becoming surreal.

    The whole story here:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/australia-day-melbourne-invasion-day-protest-rally/13092528

  196. Dr Faustus says:

    Grigory Fotherington-Thomas

  197. Nick says:

    A third (34%) think Australia should become a republic, with two-thirds (62%) of these people wanting this change to take place as soon as possible.

    Well done FitzSimons!

  198. miltonf says:

    Pelosi and Bidet are just doing what comes naturally- cheating.

  199. Dr Faustus says:

    A third (34%) think Australia should become a republic, with two-thirds (62%) of these people wanting this change to take place as soon as possible.

    So, 20% give an actual fuck.
    Luckily for the Republicans, Captain Successful has a Cunning Plan:

    “We need to thrash that [the Presidential selection model] out for months … have a good old barney and come to a decision.

    “I’ve had 20 years to think about it, and that, I can tell you, is my considered opinion as to how we can best deal with this.

    This time it’ll work.

  200. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    A third (34%) think Australia should become a republic, with two-thirds (62%) of these people wanting this change to take place as soon as possible.

    Wow, that means a massive 21% of Aussies want a republic right now. Mandate!

  201. Bear Necessities says:

    I think we should get rid of Labour Day. Labour Day is culturally related to Marxism and Socialism which has directly killed well over 100 million people over the last hundred years.

    As a grown up nation we shouldn’t associate with ideology. Labour Day must go!

  202. Dot says:

    I want a republic right now and the only election method I would accept is direct election, unless we’re going to radically change how our entire electoral and political system works.

    The 1999 model was legally clever but was very minimalistic. It was the same as we have now for most intents and purposes.

    Arguably we could declare we don’t accept the succession of any future monarchs and install the same system purely by legislation and even by treaty (once again abusing the external affairs power and Ch III courts).

  203. Rockdoctor says:

    Bushkid I am cool that roads cannot be maintained to autobahn standards in a sparsely populated country such as ours. However they sealed a lot of roads in regional Queensland about 15yo but no maitinence has been done on since. IMO some stretches would be better off as gravel if this is the approach as a council grader could be sent out time to time to work on problem sections, only issue would be passability in the wet.

    Incidentally my last time on the beef rd was about 2 years ago. Nebo to Middlemount & back, in disrepair but compared to what I saw in the last few days vastly better. Last time I did the stretch to Dauringa that was absolute rubbish but that was about 15yo. Now the Golden Mile rd to Dysart well that would be close to the adventure I just experienced.

  204. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Yeah, Dot, but you’ll never get to vote for direct election of a President.
    Especially not now. The proles might elect an orange monster.
    Can’t have that.

  205. DrBeauGan says:

    The proles might elect an orange monster.
    Can’t have that.

    I’d certainly elect an orange monster if one were available. Failing that, Mark Latham. Some of his ideas are antediluvian, but he’s relatively sane and not preternaturally stupid like the usual mob.

  206. miltonf says:

    Yeah, Dot, but you’ll never get to vote for direct election of a President.
    Especially not now. The proles might elect an orange monster.
    Can’t have that.

    True- I used to think a US type system would be good for oz but even that’s been totally corrupted.

  207. Roger says:

    The opposition leader says it’s time to have a debate about how to move forward “in a way that truly unites the nation”.

    Drop all race based welfare and perks in education, housing and business preferment for government contracts.

    Instruct government departments to stop asking people if they are Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander (if race based welfare is dropped there’ll be no need).

    Pursue policies that are inclusive of all citizens rather than continuing with separate development for indigenous folk (i.e. liberal apartheid).

    Close those remote communities which are dysfunctional and offer to relocate their residents closer to the services they need.

    I could go on…

  208. DrBeauGan says:

    I could go on…

    Pointless, none of it’s going to happen. The screams from the beneficiaries of the present system would be heard on Pluto.

  209. Dot says:

    I think it is pretty clear given we are not bound in any way to accept UK succession or heirs, we have a titles and styles act, the precedent of the Australia Act and abuses of the implied & incidental nationhood power and external affairs power and also the existence of s 51 (xxxix), that a republic can be declared in a manner and form the “elites” approve of.

    Also consider we have retroactive legislation and the “GST Act” empowers an official to declare something as happening or not, or happening in a different way to the way a party asserts that it did.

    There is nothing stopping them declaring a de facto or de jure republic back to 1984, 1942, 1926, 1901, 1900, 1856 1825 or 1788, and an actual one “right now” or at 11:59:59 or tomorrow at 2 PM.

    “Always was, always will be”

    Awww sheeeiit.

  210. H B Bear says:

    He He. Imagine the elected parliamentarians putting forward a directly elected president model to a referendum. That was part of the problem last time. Ain’t going to happen.

  211. miltonf says:

    What was the model in 1999?

  212. miltonf says:

    Some creep appointed by parliament?

  213. Dot says:

    Forget about the way Parliament voted for a President.

    The PM and GG could still sack each other, as they can now.

  214. Roger says:

    Pointless, none of it’s going to happen. The screams from the beneficiaries of the present system would be heard on Pluto.

    To save the life of one aboriginal child in a remote community it would be worth putting up with the screaming. In any case, it won’t go on indefinitely; they’d have to start looking for real jobs before long.

  215. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    I think it is pretty clear given we are not bound in any way to accept UK succession or heirs, we have a titles and styles act, the precedent of the Australia Act and abuses of the implied & incidental nationhood power and external affairs power and also the existence of s 51 (xxxix), that a republic can be declared in a manner and form the “elites” approve of.

    That’s even funnier Dot.
    Charles is the quintessential Davos Man.
    The elites will polish his shoes with their tongues.

    After Liz lays down her rather formidable royal mace the ARM will have a terrible dilemma because Charles is one of their guys. So if you do a referendum for a republic the result will very likely be worse for the Left than if you don’t. So I suspect the republicalish rumblings will magically disappear after bonny Charlie becomes boss. Pity he’s married, a hook-up with Greta would be a match made by Gaia.

    And then, on top of everything, the Poms may boot the monarchy before we do. That’d produce some constitutional fun!

  216. DrBeauGan says:

    Australia is a commonwealth. That’s pretty much the same as a republic, except we have a nominal head of state the poms pay for, and a de facto head of state whose only real job is to sack the government if it violates the constitution. And who is relatively cheap to keep. Replace him by a president, and he’ll demand a palace to accord with his dignity.

    No thanks.

  217. Dot says:

    And then, on top of everything, the Poms may boot the monarchy before we do. That’d produce some constitutional fun!

    That’s what I would be worried about. We get given a stop gap measure the “elites” approve of and then the idea of a directly elected President, CIR, recall elections etc becomes a harder sell.

  218. Ed Case says:

    What’s a President anyway?
    It’s a King by any other name, except you get to vote on him every few years.
    We’ve already got one, her name’s Queenie.
    Yeah, I know, she hasn’t done much in 68 years, but give her a chance, eh?

  219. JC says:

    The PM and GG could still sack each other, as they can now.

    There’s such an elegant intellectual symmetry in that, only the Anglos could have come up with it.

  220. Dot says:

    A republic strictly speaking has an executive separate from the legislature; and common weal is virtually a perfect translation of res public.

    Replace him by a president, and he’ll demand a palace to accord with his dignity.

    The PM and GG already have two palaces each.

    We could sell three…hell, sell all four and stick the new guy in old Parliament House.

  221. DrBeauGan says:

    With the exception of madge, the entire royal family is pathetic and a waste of space. The problem with getting rid of them is what we’d get to replace them.

    Always keep tight hold of nurse,
    For fear of getting something worse.

  222. Eyrie says:

    Australia is a commonwealth. That’s pretty much the same as a republic, except we have a nominal head of state the poms pay for, and a de facto head of state whose only real job is to sack the government if it violates the constitution.

    Erm… except that he isn’t doing that and the Government has chosen to ignore the Constitution and the gutless High Court has stretched the interpretation beyond belief.

  223. DrBeauGan says:

    Yeah, I know, she hasn’t done much in 68 years, but give her a chance, eh?

    That’s one of her good points.

  224. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Hehe, Dot, “harder sell” reminds me of the camel and the eye of the needle verse. (Which as it happens I listened to a sermon about on Sunday. 😀 )

  225. JC says:

    Dot:

    Australia is one on the most stable oldest democracies in the world. be very very careful before you fuck around with the foundations.

  226. Eyrie says:

    I’m all for giving the Windsors the flick. Maz and Freddie for Queen and consort of Australia. A nice Tassie girl who pumped out a bunch of sprogs to take care of succession and Freddie likes beer and yachts. What’s not to like?

  227. DrBeauGan says:

    The PM and GG already have two palaces each.

    Not real palaces. Barely more than shacks compared with what Whitlam would have wanted.

  228. H B Bear says:

    What was the model in 1999?

    There wasn’t one. A big part of the problem. “Leave it up to us.” Rightly thrown out to be followed by the usual bickering and posturing.

  229. JC says:

    Not real palaces. Barely more than shacks compared with what Whitlam would have wanted.

    What did he want?

  230. Dot says:

    and a de facto head of state whose only real job is to sack the government if it violates the constitution.

    Erm… except that he isn’t doing that and the Government has chosen to ignore the Constitution and the gutless High Court has stretched the interpretation beyond belief.

    Yes, good call Eyrie.

    In 2008, Kevin Rudd’s government was collecting excise revenue for a bill that had not yet passed into an Act of legislation.

    A political naif might assume this is the sort of thing the governor general can and should sack a government over, appoint a caretaker PM and dissolve Parliament, causing a general election.

    I can’t believe the breweries bent over and didn’t even take this to court. Well I can, but it still shocking to me.

  231. Eyrie says:

    Also the Danes were the Vikings.

  232. DrBeauGan says:

    Erm… except that he isn’t doing that and the Government has chosen to ignore the Constitution and the gutless High Court has stretched the interpretation beyond belief

    True, but a succession of duds in high office shouldn’t be a surprise.

  233. Dot says:

    Australia is one on the most stable oldest democracies in the world. be very very careful before you fuck around with the foundations.

    Hey, hey.

    I never instituted a lockdown.

  234. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Ed – QE2 is probably the best proponent of soft power in the world today. Pope Francis would learn a thing or two from her, if he’d listen – soft power is a very traditional papal approach of course. It’s a much undersold diplomatic tool, and used with care it can be quite effective. But to do that you have to be Caesar’s wife and be loved by the people. Which Liz is. I would say she’s the most brilliant leader on the planet, give how much sway she has despite no actual real power whatsoever.

  235. JC says:

    Bruce’s sister is kinda cute. Great smile.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7lfzARGXGw

  236. H B Bear says:

    The problem with an elected president is you’d probably end up with Karl Stepanovic, Kochie or Eddie McGuire. Don’t laugh, Basil Zempilas is our Lord Mayor (and may still be an improvement on Emperor Barney’s puppet that got the arse a while back).

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