Open Forum: January 23, 2021

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  1. Runnybum says:

    FTB, that can’t be true, here in Brisbane we had the more infectious pommy strain that infected nobody.
    Confusing.

  2. Leigh Lowe says:

    Runnybum

    #3738919, posted on January 27, 2021 at 3:58 pm

    I agree with JC, what is the furniture store?

    It is a store.
    Which sells furniture.
    And other stuff.

  3. Leigh Lowe says:

    feelthebern

    #3738929, posted on January 27, 2021 at 4:05 pm

    Walls have ears.

    Did they take the mRNA vaccine?

    mUtatIoN is No LauGhinG maTTer.

  4. feelthebern says:

    New theme song of the furniture store.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diYAc7gB-0A

    They’re totally gaying out over there.

  5. Struth says:

    I would go to head sneerers alternative site, when and if this one closes, but he does sweet fuck all except sneer at others doing anything, especially it seems those that don’t like the Liberal party and do stuff!
    Oddly, NFA started up the freedom site precisely when Sinclair closed this one down.
    Being proactive scares Frank, he rallies against it with all the bile he can muster.
    I support NFA for being proactive.
    I don’t reckon I’ll be alive long enough if I wait to support a Frank initiative.

  6. Runnybum says:

    Bigglesc has actionable in his head, let him run with it, almost as hilarious as going after me about bananas.
    What a plonker.
    Check your email biggles.

  7. Top Ender says:

    Perp was out on bail:

    Couple killed in Alexandra Hills crash was expecting baby

    DAVID MURRAY
    NATIONAL CRIME CORRESPONDENT

    Kate Leadbetter was six months pregnant with her partner Matty Field’s child when they were tragically killed while walking their dogs in Brisbane’s bayside on Tuesday.

    The pair had been at the intersection of Vienna and Finucane Roads at Alexandra Hills when they were hit by an allegedly stolen LandCruiser after it sped through a red light, crashed into a truck and rolled.

    Police allege the 17-year-old behind the wheel of the 4WD was drug-affected and fled the scene on foot before being apprehended. On Wednesday morning, he was charged with the couple’s murder.

    One of the couple’s dogs, Frankie, went missing after the fatal crash but was found alive in bushland on Wednesday after the community rallied together to launch a search of the local area.

    Ms Leadbetter’s cousin, Kimberley, had taken to social media to ask locals to help find Frankie.

    With it, she shared a photo of the couple at Christmas time with their two dogs, cat, and a photo of their unborn child.

    According to social media, Ms Leadbetter, 31, was an interior stylist, while her partner, 37, worked in fabrications. It’s understood the couple had been together for at least four years.

    Tributes have been pouring in for the couple on social media, while a vigil has been organised for Wednesday night, with people asked to “bring a light to shine for the three lives lost” to the corner of Finucane and Vienna Roads at 6pm.

    Assistant Commissioner Brian Codd said police were considering further charges against the driver over the killing of the unborn child.

    Mr Codd said witnesses and emergency crews were confronted by an “incredibly catastrophic scene” after the crash.

    Outlining the timing of events, he said it would be alleged the LandCruiser 4WD was stolen between 4pm and 5pm on Tuesday from an address at Cleveland.

    Around 5.10pm, the stolen 4WD crashed into the side of a silver Hyundai after an alleged road rage incident.

    At around 5.25pm, the same LandCruiser was travelling west on Finucane Rd when it allegedly sped through a red light at the same intersection and collided with a truck.

    “The LandCruiser has rolled and struck two pedestrians who were crossing the road at the time. Despite the incredible efforts of witnesses and later the QAS, both pedestrians died at the scene.

    “Those pedestrians are a 31-year-old woman, Katherine Jane Leadbetter, and her partner, 37-year-old man Matthew Philip Field. Both were from Alexandra Hills.

    “Tragically, and from advice from the family and the Queensland Ambulance Service, we understand that Katherine was pregnant.”

    The 17-year-old driver ran from the scene, and around 5.30pm stole a set of keys from a Kingston Ave house and attempted to start a car in the garage. He fled on foot when approached by a resident of the house who followed him into Chelsea Crescent where he was arrested, Mr Codd said.

    The youth is understood to have been on bail for driving offences including evade police.

    However Mr Codd said some public speculation about the youth’s prior alleged offending was inaccurate.

    “This is going to be frustrating, but as this matter is now before the courts … I am limited on a legal basis to the amount of detail I can provide in relation to the offender.”

    Police had prepared an affidavit opposing bail.

    “There is provision in certain circumstances where a … criminal, reckless or negligent act can result in a murder charge if a death was a foreseeable and probable consequence of that illegal act,” he said.

    Police were awaiting confirmation of the pregnancy.

    “There is provision under the Criminal Code for offences relating to the killing of unborn children and that is certainly something we will be considering.”

    He declined to reveal the drug the driver was allegedly on.

    Mr Codd said police had been alerted by the public about the vehicle’s earlier dangerous driving.

    “We had issued a broadcast on our radio systems highlighting that we were looking for that vehicle amongst our police and they responded to that. They did not identify the vehicle prior to the time of the incident however.”

    Polair had not been engaged and Mr Codd said he could not say what the vehicle had been doing in the 15 minutes between the first and second collisions.

    The couple were crossing the road at the pedestrian lights at Finucane Rd, he said.

    “Here’s two people going about their business innocently on Australia Day, walking their dogs, you know.

    “They should be entitled to do that. To have them ripped away from their families is an absolute tragedy and I can assure you it’s impacted very, very heavily on the first responders and the witnesses who faced that. It shouldn’t happen.”

    Police charged the 17-year-old from Waterford West with two counts of murder, one count of dangerous operation of a vehicle while adversely affected by an intoxicating substance, two counts of burglary and one count each of unlawful use of a motor vehicle and attempted unlawful use of a motor vehicle. He will appear in the Brisbane Children’s Court today.

    Footage posted online of the earlier road rage incident shows a male driver of the stolen 4WD gesturing wildly at the occupants of a Hyundai i30 hatchback at an intersection while they are waiting side-by-side at a red light.

    When the lights change, the 4WD smashes into the side of the Hyundai and then speeds away.

    Chris Fleming, who posted footage of the road rage incident online, said his wife Angela began filming after hearing a loud screech as the 4WD overtook them and then pulled up in front of them at the traffic lights.

    Ms Fleming called triple-0 after the 4WD smashed into the side of the Hyundai, and the couple stopped to ask the Hyundai’s driver if was okay.

    “Are you guys hurt?” Ms Fleming asks.

    “No but we’ve got our disabled son in the back of the car,” the Hyundai’s driver responds.

    The 17-year-old was taken to hospital after the fatal crash and treated for minor injuries. He cannot be named due to his age.

    Oz full article

  8. Leigh Lowe says:

    feelthebern

    #3738935, posted on January 27, 2021 at 4:07 pm

    New theme song of the furniture store.

    Rule 1 of Furniture Club.
    No gay dance tracks.

  9. Top Ender says:

    Explained: Why Alexandra Hills crash teen was on bail

    Many are questioning how the teen charged with murder after a couple were hit and killed in a horror crash was out on bail for driving offences. Jessica Marszalek explains.

    Jessica Marszalek
    @JessMarie_News

    Many of our readers are asking why the 17-year-old driver was out on bail when yesterday’s horrific car crash at Alexandra Hills happened. Here, State Political Editor Jessica Marszalek gives a run down of Queensland’s youth bail laws.

    WHAT IS THE LAW?

    New amendments to the Youth Justice Act were passed and came into effect last July to make it clear that if a young person is a danger to the community, they must be denied bail and kept in custody.

    They are deemed to be a danger to the community if they are an unacceptable risk of reoffending.

    A new section of the legislation makes it clear that the child “must” be kept in custody where police or courts decide there is an unacceptable risk of the child committing an offence that endangers the safety of the community or the safety or welfare of a person and the risk cannot be reduced through bail conditions.

    WHAT DID THE PREVIOUS LAWS SAY?

    Last year’s change was an about-face from the previous laws that Labor had only recently passed.

    The Palaszczuk Government introduced surprise new laws in June 2019 that directed courts to lock up fewer children.

    They had said that a young person “may” be kept in custody, not “must”.

    They specified that detention was a “last resort” for youths and that there was an “explicit presumption in favour of release” when considering bail.

    “Wherever it is possible and safe to do so, we want young people out of detention, especially when they have not yet been convicted of an offence,” the former youth justice minister Di Farmer said at the time.

    WHY DID THEY INTRODUCE THOSE LAWS?

    The 2019 changes came amid increasing political pressure to deal with scores of children as young as 10 who were being kept in temporary watch house cells for weeks at a time awaiting trial or sentencing because youth detention centres were full.

    Those cells are meant for temporarily holding adults.

    That was happening because the Palaszcuk Government had passed different laws that recognised 17-year-old as children, rather than adults, and meant they could no longer be kept in adult prisons any more.

    But when they were moved to youth detention centres, there wasn’t enough room and no plan in place to deal with that.

    SO WHY DID THEY RIP UP THOSE LAWS LESS THAN A YEAR LATER?

    After growing community anger around bail decisions being made – especially in the context of a spate of youth crime in Townsville – the Palaszczuk Government launched an extraordinary attack on the judiciary, blaming them for out-of-control youth crime.

    Police Minster Mark Ryan said magistrates weren’t keeping in the spirit of the new Youth Justice Act to maintain public safety and were letting too many “hardcore” offenders out on bail.

    “Quite frankly I think they have gotten it wrong in a number of instances recently,” he said of the courts in March 2020.

    “They have to make decisions which fulfil the intention of the legislation and the intention of the legislation is clear – community safety comes first.”

    He also admitted that the Government was considering changing the laws again to make its intentions clearer to the courts.

    WHAT DOES THE PREMIER ANNASTACIA PALASZCZUK HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF HER GOVERNMENT’S BAIL LAWS TODAY?

    She says there will be a full police investigation into the tragic deaths of Kate Leadbetter and Matty Field and she’s not going to comment on facts she’s not privy to.

    But she says her government toughened up the bail laws and they are “very strict”.

    Courier-Mail full article

  10. Struth says:

    Oh dear, he has lost it, hasn’t he.
    It’s sad to watch when the actual dribbling starts.

  11. Leigh Lowe says:

    Runnybum

    #3738937, posted on January 27, 2021 at 4:08 pm

    Bigglesc has actionable in his head, 

    Pay attention Ted (the very similar one).
    That was a piss-take of St Ruth going the full bush lawyer the other day and screeching hysterically about a post which named nobody (real name or screen name) being “actionable”.
    It was “the vibe” apparently.

  12. feelthebern says:

    Rule 1 of Furniture Club.
    No gay dance tracks.

    Oh it’s intensely gay over there.

    h/t Ross Cameron.

  13. Runnybum says:

    Biggles go to bed, or should I say get back under your bed?
    Dan Xi is coming for you.

  14. Leigh Lowe says:

    Oh it’s intensely gay over there.

    I know, I know!
    Lots of talk of mateship and havin’ a beer.
    But we all know what that means.
    I don’t know who cleans the spa on a Sunday morning.

  15. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    I was looking for an article I thought I saw this morning in answer to FTB’s question.
    And found this one.

    Joe Biden Signs Executive Order to Make All Federal Vehicles Electric (26 Jan)

    President Joe Biden signed an executive order Monday to phase out the federal government’s use of vehicles that run on gas and replace them with ones that run on electricity.

    This will be glorious! Can you imagine all those congresscritters trying too get around in EVs which keep going flat? They’ll be panicking and trying to find ways around the EO. Can’t just fill up an EV, it takes hours, especially for the sort of cars a Senator would drive around in. The Secret Service will have to start a towing division for all the dead armoured electric SUVs they leave behind. The four tonne Beast would need a battery the size of most ordinary cars just to get between the WH and the airport.

    Then there’s the strain on the grid that almost a million EVs are going to put onto it. Popcorn!

  16. feelthebern says:

    I don’t know who cleans the spa on a Sunday morning.

    The carpet resembles a work by Jackson Pollock.

  17. Leigh Lowe says:

    The carpet resembles a work by Jackson Pollock

    Carpet?
    That’s just back hair which has been shed and not swept up.

  18. Struth says:

    And you keep proving what I’m about to say……..
    You’re a zero integrity smart arse, and it was never going to be forever Frank. If you were actually as smart as you think you are, you should have known that.
    Zero substance and negative toward anyone attempting anything.
    You’re a failure and people that aren’t, shit you to tears.
    You might be rich, you might be all sorts of things, but as a man, you are a failure.
    And the hatred you hold for yourself is evident in every one of your posts.
    You want others to be down with you, in your gutter, and you fight daily to devalue all they do and say, to make yourself feel better, it’s truly sad..
    We aren’t you.
    And thank fuck for that.

  19. JC says:

    There is a blog.
    It is called Freedoms Australia.
    But Gongling it usually takes you to Freedom Furniture (hence the Furniture Store reference).
    It seems to have only three regular posters – NoFixedAddress, MemoryFault and St Ruth.
    It was set up as a refuge for Stray Cats “just in case something might happen to the Cat”.
    It hasn’t been the raging success the Founding Fathers might have hoped.

    Lol. Finally, got it.

  20. Mitch M:

    Good idea. The indigenes will go batshit crazy over it but nothing will satisfy them. On SBS they have some slogan … always was, always will be … with a picture of the tribal areas in Australia. Complete denial of reality.

    Always remember that any negotiating you do with the Left, any agreement you make with them, is not the end of the matter – it is the start of the next round of blackmail.
    Don’t change anything.
    Don’t negotiate.
    Walk away from them.

  21. dover_beach says:

    you already know full well this has been debunked

    Don’t tell me numbers is peddling the ‘very fine people’ hoax.

  22. Speedbox says:

    twostix
    #3738661, posted on January 27, 2021 at 12:30 pm

    ….. which requires “boosters” (upgrades)………

    Setting aside the issue of vaccination passports in your post, the Russians have long said that their Sputnik V will almost certainly require annual vaccinations as (presumably) the virus mutates. They likened it to the annual ‘flu shot now administered annually.

    They made the point that covid was now with us ‘permanently’ and they cannot see any way, at least into the foreseeable future, that the disease will be eradicated.

    IMO that is a realistic appraisal. How nations deal with it will be something for discussion but even if the vaccine is wildly successful (far from certain), the repeated vaccination of the global population to herd immunity levels will take a number of years. And how likely is that?!

    First, let’s talk about the cost of vaccinating 6+ billion people annually…….

  23. Struth says:

    Always remember that any negotiating you do with the Left, any agreement you make with them, is not the end of the matter – it is the start of the next round of blackmail.
    Don’t change anything.
    Don’t negotiate.
    Walk away from them.

    Exactly, and this goes for the vaccination as well. And for precisely the above reason.
    It’s been a year now of being imprisoned on this island……unless you are the elite.

  24. feelthebern says:

    Moderna has rallied approx. 40% from its month lows since it raised the idea (spectre) of being an annual shot.
    Investors like annuity income.

  25. Struth says:

    First, let’s talk about the cost of vaccinating 6+ billion people annually…….

    Gates and Fauci will indeed be well off.
    Although now it isn’t really about the money for them, is it. It’s about saving the planet from all you non bug eating meat consumers and breathers of climate destroying carbon.
    You mongrels are killing Koalas as well, FFS, do you honestly expect to be left to your own devises, free and with the liberty to drive a petrol car and use electrickery?

  26. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    Everybody must woke!

    Olivia Newton-John cops backlash from fans over her Australia Day message as critics call her out for not acknowledging First Nations people

  27. feelthebern says:

    Well done zerohedge.
    I’ve seen their zerohedge premium being advertised for a bit.
    Today was the first time I clicked on anything behind that paywall.

  28. notafan says:

    Look at Tweedledum and Tweedledee with the witty ripostes and slap downs.

    In fact, just rattle rattling.

  29. Nick says:

    You’re a failure and people that aren’t, shit you to tears.
    You might be rich, you might be all sorts of things, but as a man, you are a failure.
    And the hatred you hold for yourself is evident in every one of your posts.

    Is this t he new protest song? Needs a drum solo.

  30. notafan says:

    If an annual covid shot is about the same cost as a flu one, what difference does it make, if in fact the number of people who need it are actually much less?

    I’m not seeing the end of the world as we know it because there is another virus out there.

  31. notafan says:

    Apparently st ruth, MV and NFA are the men to look up to as great achievers around here.

  32. Cassie:

    I just don’t recognise this country anymore…I just don’t like this country anymore.

    A bit like me – I love Australia, but I intensely dislike 93.1% of the people who live here.

  33. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Olivia Newton-John cops backlash

    She’s probably at the point where she can tell the SJWs to get lost, since she was diagnosed Stage 4 BC (yet again) late last year. Looks like she’s doing ok with it, but such things do focus the mind on the essentials not woke sillinesses.

  34. Arky says:

    Catallaxy denizens understand the developing situation with covid vaccines because they have paid close attention through the Brexit debate and Trump’s 2016 election, through the excellent coverage here.
    We watched as the ruling classes and their stooges came to point of realising that these votes meant the common man had rejected their version of progress.
    We watched so, so many of them reach that realisation and then mentally balk at accepting what that meant.
    We saw their anger and distress.
    And we watched their response to their personal crisis unfold over the last four years.
    The ordinary citizen is no longer to be trusted with anything which might remotely impede their plans.
    In addition, they are to be punished for their audacity.

  35. Rorschach says:

    Then there’s the strain on the grid that almost a million EVs are going to put onto it. Popcorn!

    Will this include Police Vehicles? There are LOTS of cheap ex police with near zero miles BMW i3s for sale in LA.

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/lapd-selling-fleet-bmw-i3-cheap-ev-electric-vehicle-california-2020-9?r=US&IR=T#:~:text=In%202016%2C%20BMW%20won%20the,being%20sold%20for%20dirt%20cheap.

  36. Mitch M. says:

    Winston Smith
    #3738973, posted on January 27, 2021 at 4:37 pm
    Mitch M:

    Good idea. The indigenes will go batshit crazy over it but nothing will satisfy them. On SBS they have some slogan … always was, always will be … with a picture of the tribal areas in Australia. Complete denial of reality.

    Always remember that any negotiating you do with the Left, any agreement you make with them, is not the end of the matter – it is the start of the next round of blackmail.
    Don’t change anything.
    Don’t negotiate.
    Walk away from them.

    I know(nothing will satisfy them). However an increasingly large proportion of Aussies insist something must be done. It gets worse, the Aus day protests attracted worldwide attention which will probably result in the government doing something.

    Winston they are winning. Walking away from the enemy is to retreat. If we do that they will have the final victory. Screeds on blogs like this is preaching to the choir. It appears that is all we can do. Recently I read a news report about a study on how social movements succeed. It aint through fancy words, letters, blog posts and being clever. It is through the tried and true religious method of evangelism: go find the sinners and reach out to them. Conservatives don’t do that. They sure as hell know how to fucking whine. Day after fucking day … .

  37. feelthebern says:

    Awww sheeeiit.
    NZ/China extends their trade deal.
    Transactions under $NZ200mill are now exempt from kiwi FIRB equivalent.
    This is new news today being reporting on reuters.

    Fun fact, NZ plonk is tariff free into China.

  38. Leigh Lowe:

    Even a couple of my lefty friends admit that any one of the 365 days will attract the ire of any number of the 300 First Splinter Groups.
    The aim isn’t to merely change the date.
    It is to convert the day into a combination of Bruce Pascoe mythology and a maudlin whinge about “invasion and genocide”.

    No, Leigh.
    The aim is to make yet another demand and we do a tactical retreat.
    The ultimate aim is for the Left to to dominate the Conservatives and instill in us a feeling of hopelessness in our cause.
    We are making the German retreat from Russia look like a woodland wandering after lunch.

  39. Arky says:

    It is vital that the ruling elites and the mainstream politicians who represent them rethink their censorious and punitive approach to dissent.
    Otherwise they will lock themselves and us into an authoritarian spiral of crackdown and backlash.
    Success will lead to a horrible society where their own freedoms will be curtailed as much as ours: 24 hour guards and living in compounds for them, unbearable surveillance for us.
    If they fail, it means revolution. The chop for them, and whatever brutal regime comes out of the chaos for us.
    The only way this works out is if they come to their senses before it is too late.

  40. Delta A says:

    We saw their anger and distress.
    And we watched their response to their personal crisis unfold over the last four years.

    And man, didn’t we enjoy it!

  41. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘KD, was Glenn Maxwell given the same opportunities at test level that Burns was?’

    No, bern. No, he was not. Despite being a supremely gifted batsman who showed glimpses of the ability to succeed in the longer and more difficult form of the game, he only seven Tests between 2013 and 2017. Averaging, as Joe Burns’ dad (obviously) Neil says, in the mid-twenties.

    In his debut Test on the subcon he was picked as the second spinner along with Xavier Doherty. Stayed as a bowler for two matches, got the arse and returned as a batsman when Michael Clarke hurt himself. He failed, and that was it (dropped twice now) until 2017 when he played a handful of Tests against India and the Bangers.

    Despite making his maiden ton he was dropped a third (and last) time and made his way as a short-form great.

    So no, Maxwell didn’t get the chances Duck Egg Joe had.

  42. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Rorschach – Thanks for that article, it’s hilarious. I like this bit especially:

    The i3s were part of Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti’s push to go greener. Despite the good intentions, things didn’t go according to plan.

    The cars didn’t wind up doing much of the outreach they were intended for, a CBS Los Angeles investigation from January 2018 found. Instead, they sat, rarely used. If they were used, CBS Los Angeles said they were used for non-police business, such as visiting nail salons and picking folks up for lunch.

    Reading between the lines suggests they were slightly less than popular with LAPD employees. 😀

  43. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Missed another word. Doing several things at once. Apologies.

    I hope nobody takes any ‘action’ against me.

  44. feelthebern says:

    The aim is to make yet another demand and we do a tactical retreat.

    Hence the need for an almighty convention.
    Thousands of representatives from all over Australia.
    And foreign observers.
    Make it two weeks long.
    No, four weeks.
    Pay the ABC to run a channel exclusively for the coverage.
    All expenses paid.
    Dinners.
    Bar tabs.
    Lock stock, the fucking lot.
    Give it 150% of the oxygen it needs.

    Then watch it implode.
    Delegates blowing up at each other.
    Scandals abound.
    Zero consensus.
    Then it can be put in the rack for another 3 years so we can say, we tried.

  45. feelthebern says:

    Thanks KD.
    Remember when Warner was viewed as not test match material.
    But when he was given his opportunity, he took it.

  46. feelthebern says:

    The convention would happen in Canberra.
    As it’s all expenses paid, no one’s going to complain.
    Apart from taxpayers & they haven’t counted before, so why worry now.

  47. Woolfe says:

    Will our annual vaccine be the new social licence. Without it no access anything?

    Sink I assume you are looking at alternative hosting for this site where we cannot be cancelled?

    I now believe we have got to this stage.

    Am i turning into Anne?

  48. Leigh Lowe says:

    Winston.
    I kind of agree about forcing a retreat.
    They want to do the old “take the institution, hollow it out and wear the skin”.
    That is why they want to change the date and turn it into an indigenous fest to the exclusion of the rest.

  49. Leigh Lowe says:

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3739007, posted on January 27, 2021 at 5:18 pm

    Missed another word.

    Jeez.
    You are like Burnsie playing at inswingers.

  50. notafan says:

    Covid vaccine will, very quickly, fade into background, like flu vaccine.

    The real issue is climate change.

  51. Rorschach says:

    More i3s were sold last month for higher prices. But – given the LA PD had a contract to get three years of these, will there come a saturation point and the price crash?

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/lapd-bmw-i3-evs-sale-again-los-angeles-police-department-2020-12?r=US&IR=T

    Regardless – a relatively secure portent of things to come.

  52. feelthebern says:

    Once the US is 100% open this year, the rest of the world will not be able to maintain the facade.

  53. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Hence the need for an almighty convention.

    We already had a 2020 Convention.
    It’s now 2021 and I suspect absolutely nothing they squawked about in 2008 has happened.
    Kevni is still enlightening us on the MSM with his wisdom but.

  54. kaysee says:

    Democrats question election results: ‘We just trust the machines, and we shouldn’t’

    Matt Luceen didn’t vote for former President Donald Trump in 2020, but he came to Washington last week to protest President Biden’s inauguration, saying the election was flawed.

    Mr. Luceen, a supporter of Sen. Bernard Sanders, said he toted signs that read “COUNT OUR VOTES BY HAND,” and “End the charade.”

    “We don’t ever really put the paper into piles and count them by hand anymore,” the 34-year-old computer programmer said. “We just trust the machines, and we shouldn’t because we have documented proof that these machines are vulnerable.

  55. feelthebern says:

    Bruce, the convention is to kill the idea.
    Or more likely, let the idea commit suicide.
    It’s very Sun Tzu.

  56. Knuckle Dragger says:

    St. Ruth of Walkitback, earlier:

    ‘Oddly, NFA started up the freedom site precisely when Sinclair closed this one down.’

    No, NFA started it as soon as his A grade nuffie screechery was banned from here.

    It dovetailed nicely with Faulty’s laughable and not-at-all see-through attempts to seed this joint with stuff that would actually be dangerous, which finished with his banning as well.

    It must be tough being the spokesman, Comical Ali-style for that crowd. The vetting and approval meetings must take hours. You can tell, because some of the language and style you’ve put up in the last week or so is pure, unadulterated Faulty.

    Hi NFA. Hi Faulty. Maybe, for some extra gravitas, you could ask Ray Hoser or Harold Scruby to be a treehouse member. Just, y’know, for the crowds.

  57. Harlequin Decline says:

    The UK all causes mortality stats for 2020 have been released.

    Yearly numbers going back to 2006 are-

    2020 608,016
    2019 530,841
    2018 541,589
    2017 533,253
    2016 525,048
    2015 529,655
    2009-2014 similar numbers
    2008 509,090
    2007 504,052
    2006 502,599

    If the 2006,2007,2008 figures (which looks to have been flu years) are adjusted for the population growth between 2006 and 2020 deaths would have been circa 550,000. As a check this is roughly in line with the 2018 flu year.

    So 2020 looks to have an increased death rate that is roughly around 10% over and above that which would have been expected for a flu year.

  58. feelthebern says:

    Mr. Luceen, a supporter of Sen. Bernard Sanders

    Bernie won Iowa.
    But the DNC gave it to Holocaust Memorial Pete.

  59. Woolfe says:

    If they fail, it means revolution.

    Sorry Arky but looking at the reaction to our Tyrant Premiers i have come to the conclusion that Australians do not have the guts for this

  60. Bushkid says:

    Speedbox
    #3738976, posted on January 27, 2021 at 4:40 pm
    twostix
    #3738661, posted on January 27, 2021 at 12:30 pm

    ….. which requires “boosters” (upgrades)………

    First, let’s talk about the cost of vaccinating 6+ billion people annually…….

    Let’s talk about the obscene profits the “vaccine” makers will be making out of this…..

  61. Arky says:

    Australians do not have the guts for this

    ..
    They’re not starving yet.

  62. H B Bear says:

    Harold Scruby should get a gong. For services to loony. Must put it in the diary for next year. AOTY could do with more laughs.

  63. notafan says:

    Are they really making ‘obscene profits’?

  64. Boambee John says:

    dover_beach
    #3738975, posted on January 27, 2021 at 4:39 pm
    you already know full well this has been debunked

    Don’t tell me numbers is peddling the ‘very fine people’ hoax.

    No, he’s rabbiting on about “Auschwitz T-shirt man” at the Capitol being a Trumpkin because “Facebook page”. The idea that a fake FB page could be mocked up by the lying left is beyond his ability to contemplate.

  65. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘Remember when Warner was viewed as not test match material.
    But when he was given his opportunity, he took it.’

    To my eternal rage bern, yes he did.

    Maxwell was dropped three times in four years, and won’t play Tests again UNLESS there’s another mass banning, as there was in Seth Efrica with the sandy paper. Funnily enough, that’s how Duck Egg Joe got his last crack – as Bancroft was sacked. Maxwell won’t (shouldn’t) bat at five and he won’t get 6, because they appear to be running Green’s engine in.

    Burns tried to pretend he was an opener, which he wasn’t. There are certain people around who seem to believe Test batsmen can swing from numbers 1 to 6 and 7 with no problems, and they can’t because the different positions require different styles and techniques.

    Duck Egg Joe was Warner’s mate though, and that’s a good enough reason to give him the arse.

  66. Nick says:

    With regards to Maxwell, wasn’t there chirp, seemingly deliberately put about, that he wasn’t ‘ a stable team player’?

  67. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Bruce, the convention is to kill the idea.

    It’d probably end up an annual event, like Davos and the climatefest.
    OTOH it’d keep them all busy for a week. Which is no bad thing.

  68. Lysander says:

    Bern, love the idea. I believe JWH used similar tactics in dividing the Australian Republican vote which was easily going to win until he started asking “which model” do you want… then it all fell apart. 150-odd indigenous “nations” all agreeing with one another is hardly likely (particularly given some, such as in WA, have the South West Settlement which settles all claims under one “flag” so mining, pastoral and agricultural development can continue without bottlenecks).

  69. kaysee says:

    All those rushing in to reject and protest and return their Australia Day awards.
    Fact-checking is not exactly something that fits in with wokeists. Was O’Brien really a journalist?

    The Rocket behind Margaret Court’s AC

    Margaret Court was given Australia’s highest civilian honour to address a gender disparity created five years ago when Rod Laver became the first tennis player to be made a Companion of the Order of Australia (AC).

    Members of the Council for the Order of Australia, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said the decisive argument behind the decision to elevate Court to an AC was that our greatest women’s player deserved the same level of recognition as our greatest men’s player.

    The council anticipated a fierce public backlash to the decision, but after lengthy debate, decided that Court’s attitude towards homosexuality, although offensive to many people, should not prevent recognition of her extraordinary tennis achievements.

    Court said this is consistent with what she was told when she first learned she had been made a Companion of the Order of Australia.

    “I said ‘what is it actually for?’” she told The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald.

    “They said it is for your tennis. I have tried to say that and nobody has listened.”

    Court’s AC citation makes clear that the award is for her tennis. It carries no mention of her work as a Pentecostal pastor, which has included sermonising against homosexuality, marriage equality and the transgender community.

    It reads: “For eminent service to tennis as an internationally acclaimed player and record-holding grand slam champion, and as a mentor of young sports persons.”

  70. Leigh Lowe says:

    Putting words in people’s mouths again.
    From the Furniture Store (I am not linking but it is under the thread “The Struth Factor/There is no Australia to celebrate”)

    MemoryFault Jan 25, 2021 at 6:37pm
    St Ruth likes this
    The Cat was taken over by a small group a year ago, led by LL, and ably supported by Knuckle Dragger and Nick and cheered on by Bespoke and Nota. For a long time I thought LL was out to destroy the Cat, but I was wrong. These people are there to protect the ruling Lib/Lab/Nat junta by whatever means necessary. This became abundantly clear in the aftermath of the Anzac day protests inspired by St Ruth, and the lockout of the blog by Sinclair.
    What came as a shock was stumbling over the evidence, in September last year, that these people were not thumbing their noses at Sinclair, but working with his full cooperation and collusion. That is why I blew my stack with him.

    Sinc.
    We are busted.
    Let’s go to plan C. Destroy all documents. Repeat, destroy all documents.
    .
    St Ruth.
    You “liked” that post.
    Do you, or do you not believe Sinc is working in concert with me and my gang as a tool of the major parties to do … well, I am not sure what?
    Accusations of collusion.
    Without proof, that is actionable!

  71. Tom says:

    On US politics, Sky News is now peddling the same rubbish as the ABC.

    Chris Kenny just had on some Never Trump talking head* from some obscure US network I’ve never heard of, who apparently calls himself a journalist, and he agreed with Kenny that Trump’s behaviour since the November election had been “disgraceful”.

    It’s very comfortable being a member of the media peanut gallery when you don’t think the opinions of the 80 million Americans disenfranchised in November are important.

    Kenny, with his loony left Marxist son, is terrified of losing dinner party invitations from the wokerati in Sydney’s inner suburbs — just another media coward who I’m now listening to with the sound turned down.

    Andrew Bolt has more integrity.

    *He seems strangely familiar as one of the Trump haters in the White House press pool since 2016.

  72. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    So 2020 looks to have an increased death rate that is roughly around 10% over and above that which would have been expected for a flu year.

    Many of those extra deaths would’ve also been from the NHS cancelling vast numbers of normal procedures because panic. And many many suicides too, I suspect. Remove those and the actual net Covid effect is even lower.

    Las Vegas Schools Forced To Reopen Amid Rash Of Student Suicides (Jan 26)

    A lot of people just can’t cope with lockdowns and lack of contact with people. Then add in the inadvertent drug ODs and the story would be even less apocalyptical.

  73. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Dunno about the team player thing Nick.

    What I do know is that Maxwell had hairier forearms than Ricky Ponting.

    May have been a jealousy thing. Come to think of it, Duck Egg Joe is quite hirsute.

  74. Rorschach says:

    I note that there is a tit for tat brewing between the two richest men in the world over the riches available out of this world.

    Elon Musk’s SpaceX and Jeff Bezos’ Amazon are sparring in front of the FCC over Starlink and Project Kuiper, the respective satellite internet projects of their companies.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/26/elon-musk-blasts-jeff-bezos-amazon-competitor-to-spacexs-starlink-.html

    It appears that as SpaceX has reached new technological heights, it is encroaching into Kuiper “space”. Or rather down to Bezos’ reserved Kuiper Space. LOL. Entitlement.

    But if these two go hard against each other [domination of world internet is at stake!] it’ll be interesting popcorn time!

  75. Leigh Lowe says:

    Nick
    #3739040, posted on January 27, 2021 at 5:37 pm
    With regards to Maxwell, wasn’t there chirp, seemingly deliberately put about, that he wasn’t ‘ a stable team player’?

    The same stuff we are now hearing about the Australia A captain, Alex Carey, mostly from the sports media.
    Not up to it.
    Clearly someone is running interference, firstly for Paine, but if he is toppled, to then return one of the cheaterers to the Big Job.

  76. Nick says:

    KD, the chirp was along the lines of ‘not one of us’ and ‘too impulsive as a player’

  77. miltonf says:

    On US politics, Sky News is now peddling the same rubbish as the ABC.

    Fox can stick their pay tv up their bum hole.

  78. Leigh Lowe says:

    Margaret Court was given Australia’s highest civilian honour to address a gender disparity created five years ago when Rod Laver became the first tennis player to be made a Companion of the Order of Australia (AC).

    Bewdiful!
    Whoever wrote the submission crafted it in the right language (gender equity) to make it almost impossible to knock back without an accusation of sexism.

  79. Nick says:

    What came as a shock was stumbling over the evidence, in September last year, that these people were not thumbing their noses at Sinclair, but working with his full cooperation and collusion. That is why I blew my stack with him.

    That’s hilarious. Mind you ‘blowing my stack’ is not quite what happened, it anyway, the fantasy itself is great

  80. Bushkid says:

    notafan
    #3739037, posted on January 27, 2021 at 5:34 pm
    Are they really making ‘obscene profits’?

    Do the sums yourself, if you have any doubts.

    Bill Gates, the gleeful would-be vaccinator of the entire world population, has said that the profit to investment ratio is 20:1. That is, for every dollar invested in vaccines as a manufacturer, the return is $20.

    When all the world’s governments are singing from the same hymn sheet of mandatory vaccinations (no matter what they say, it becomes mandatory when you can’t function in society without their little green tick) for their populations, needing that follow up booster at 21 days, then another one annually, and who knows how many more for who knows how many more “strains” they come up with – what manufacturer of vaccines isn’t going to be making obscene profits?

    It’s a captive market, with the world population being the captives.

  81. Leigh Lowe says:

    That’s hilarious. Mind you ‘blowing my stack’ is not quite what happened, it anyway, the fantasy itself is great

    And I am not entirely sure what “the evidence” was either.
    But no doubt it exists.
    I mean, he wouldn’t make shit up.
    Would he?

  82. notafan says:

    Never thought a furniture website could be so entertaining.

    He blew something, for sure.

  83. Dot:
    Favourite Democrat tier list?
    1. Tulsi Gabbard, my Queen. Where do I send money?
    No Dot.
    Gabbard is a stalking Horse for the Democrats. From a Conservative viewpoint, she ticks many of the boxes, but like Pence, she will show her true colours when the time comes.
    I firmly believe Pence was a Democrat/Deep State operative who gave all the right vibes, but when the time came…
    Gabbard is the same – she may switch to the Republicans but like Bolt – her heart lies with the Left.

  84. Lysander says:

    OH darn Leigh. Not sure I know exactly what you’re referring to or who has written about your “junta” but how do I join (not for partisan purposes for purposes of being part of a grand conspiracy.. sounds like fun!).

    😛

  85. Leigh Lowe says:

    Fox can stick their pay tv up their bum hole.

    I’ve ditched it and not going back.
    Who pays $60-$90 a month for a grab bag of screechers on current affairs shows and a bunch of Hitler docos on their 26th re-run?
    I do miss Peta Credlin, though.

  86. Nick says:

    Leigh, I hope Faulty used a term like ‘they are in league’.
    I think his evidence is a black cat and a Cockerill

  87. Harlequin Decline says:

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3739056, posted on January 27, 2021 at 5:47 pm

    It is not unreasonable to assume so, however there is no reliable data available as yet to determine the degree to which they contribute to the overall deaths.

  88. Leigh Lowe says:

    Lysander
    #3739069, posted on January 27, 2021 at 6:00 pm
    OH darn Leigh. Not sure I know exactly what you’re referring to or who has written about your “junta” but how do I join (not for partisan purposes for purposes of being part of a grand conspiracy.. sounds like fun!).

    Well, it did come as something of a surprise to me that I was running a junta.
    Look, you need to contact Nick about membership.
    I am off to my tailor to get more braid attached to my uniform.

  89. incoherent rambler says:

    The covid thing will quietly disappear of the leftist radar when the CCP release their new improved pandemic.

  90. Ed Case says:

    ***‘KD, was Glenn Maxwell given the same opportunities at test level that Burns was?’***

    Gimme a break, Maxwell is a lower order slogger who can’t bowl for nuts, Burnsie went out on Day 1 to face the fastest bowlers in the World, and averaged 38 [42 in First Class Cricket}
    Plus he’s a top slips fieldsman.

  91. Terry Pedersen says:

    Biden isn’t signing EOs. In his mind, he is doing lines after school.

    Lol. The next 12 – 16 years are going to be really hard for you. It’s clear you’re already doing it tough.

  92. Leigh Lowe says:

    Nick
    #3739071, posted on January 27, 2021 at 6:01 pm
    Leigh, I hope Faulty used a term like ‘they are in league’.
    I think his evidence is a black cat and a Cockerill

    Sadly, no.
    Apart from an introductory quote from another post, that is it, verbatim.
    But it isn’t bad.
    I am honoured to be the leader of you lot, and the junta will treat you well if you behave.

  93. Lysander says:

    junta
    [ˈdʒʌntəˈhʊntə]
    NOUN

    a military or political group that rules a country after taking power by force.

    HILLARIOUS!! (Don’t forget Leigh, when you get your uniform done, apparently conservative women have “big hair?” – whatever that means… perhaps a secret message back to Knuckles and his coded use of the hairy Maxwell Vs Ponting lol!!!)…

    I’ll be laughing for weeks btw…

  94. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Hang on. What?

    ‘ably supported by Knuckle Dragger and Nick and cheered on by’

    I’ve got a credit! At The Furniture Shop! My career will skyrocket! *moonwalks*

    Prediction: Big Things will happen on Australia Day, 2021.

    Oh wait.

  95. Leigh Lowe says:

    I still think it is important the St Ruth explains why he “liked” a post which labels Sinc a “Big Colluder” with the junta.

  96. Struth says:

    No, NFA started it as soon as his A grade nuffie screechery was banned from here.

    He’s never been banned from here that I know of.
    He commented here on another thread, yesterday or the day before.
    Say what you like, I support what he did, and think there is no harm in it. And he did it exactly when Sinclair closed this site down.
    He actually did something….gets right up Frank’s nose.
    I comment there………oooooh aaahh…..bit bloody hard for Frank to take.
    I comment elsewhere as well…………AAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!
    I don’t know why MV was banned from here , don’t care, why should I?
    He goes over to the furniture shop and argues with us……big deal.
    Get a life, girls.

    You need to break away from the gang KD, you’re better than this.

  97. Nick says:

    Lysander, I’ll email you an application form, once I’ve translated the current one into Spanish (glares at El Presidente)

  98. notafan says:

    I linked a list with the prices, and in fact Bill Gates (articles dated 23 Jan 2019) was talking about the economic benefits of vaccine programs in general, not profits directly to pharmaceutical companies, when talking about his personal donation of just over 10 Billion to vaccination programs that is “global alliance for vaccines and immunisations, global fund to fight aids tuberculosis and maLaria and the global polio eradication initiative ”

    Its a competitive market and the prices range from very cheap to reasonable.

  99. Arky says:

    Gabbard is a stalking Horse for the Democrats. From a Conservative viewpoint, she ticks many of the boxes, but like Pence, she will show her true colours when the time comes.

    ..
    Gabbard has a smirk on her like Beavis.
    Pence is the world’s most boring man. Completely unlistenable.

  100. notafan says:

    In moderation and gets manually approved i think

  101. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘Leigh, I hope Faulty used a term like ‘they are in league’.’

    I much prefer ‘in cahoots’.

    It must be a conspiracy. Half a dozen people scattered all over the country, and who don’t know each other have somehow collectively identified that Faulty is a low-intel manipulative carpetbagger.

    Dun dun DUNNNNNNNNNNN.

  102. Leigh Lowe says:

    junta
    [ˈdʒʌntəˈhʊntə]
    NOUN

    a military or political group that rules a country after taking power by force.

    Wait!
    What?
    By force.
    But, but … we don’t have any guns.
    Our junta runs on sneering and needling.

  103. Nick says:

    Hey, action man, you’re back

  104. Tom:

    Dangerous ideology turns arseholes into monsters, but unlike Rudd, Biden doesn’t have a moral vanity problem: he’s simply the trojan horse for a cabal of ruthless Marxists in the White House (most of them children of the rich, whose bidding they’re now doing),

    Tom, sounds about right. Yes – children of the rich.
    But how do they measure that wealth? In US dollars, no doubt.
    But they want to destroy the US economy. So how rich will they be when they succeed?

  105. Arky says:

    Our junta runs on sneering and needling.

    ..
    Bingo.

  106. Nick says:

    St Ruth, surely you’ll at least apologise to Sinc for fanning such an un-truth?

  107. Leigh Lowe says:

    St Ruth.
    Do you or do you not believe Sinc colluded with me and others as an agent of the Lib/Lab/Nat junta?
    Yes or no?
    I mean, you liked a post at the furniture store which said as much.
    (Oh, and don’t bother getting Faulty to delete it. The internet is forever.)

  108. Lysander says:

    Lysander, I’ll email you an application form, once I’ve translated the current one into Spanish (glares at El Presidente)

    Muchos gracias Generalissimo Nick. 😛

  109. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    HD – This is the problem with analysing such multiple variable datasets. There are potential independent variables which happen to covary with the variable of interest. I’d add that I think I’ve seen that the road death toll is down because of the lockdowns, that would be an offsetting anticorrelating variable too.

    The climate data is the same. Multiple variables, but the Left jumps on only one and screams we’re all going to diieee! And are totally resistant to any reasonable discussion of covarying independent variables, cost-benefit or proportional responses. Covid is so like climate. And no surprise the Left is trying hard to link them together into a full-on eternal emergency.

  110. Leigh Lowe says:

    I don’t know why MV was banned from here , don’t care, why should I?

    You don’t?
    I can remind you.

  111. Nick says:

    Our junta runs on sneering and needling.

    Don’t forget ribbing, or, en espanol nervaduras

  112. Delta A says:

    apparently conservative women have “big hair?”

    After almost two years of chemo, that sounds good to me.

  113. Lysander says:

    …and Bruce had to go and get all serious and end our moment of gaiety … 🙁

  114. Lysander says:

    (no offence BON) 😛

  115. Struth says:

    God, talk about clutching at straws.
    The only way to acknowledge you have read something on that blog is to press the like button.

    Ha Ha, so this is how hard you need to trawl to find something to tie us all together?

    For those interested, because I couldn’t be fucked, go over there and see what I wrote directly underneath as a reply, which Frank didn’t think was necessary to put here.
    But what is gobsmacking is that I describe Frank to the letter and he spends the next hour or so proving me correct….he always does once his emotions take him. He can’t help himself.

  116. feelthebern:
    Hard coking coal US150/t
    Wouldn’t it be nice if that money was going to help pay down the debt?
    Gold $A2394.22
    Silver $A33.03

  117. MatrixTransform says:

    This whole Viral Vaccine game is awesome.
    So glad I get to play
    They have ‘In App’ purchases for things like more power, better protection, the ability to fly

  118. Leigh Lowe says:

    This might be the reason Faulty got the flick …

    MemoryFault

    #3591932, posted on September 20, 2020 at 5:50 pm

    Well, I guess I’ll just have to go back to my new hobby.
    Collecting contact details for RMIT staff, employees and students.
    They’re not openly published at the RMIT website, but if you hunt around you can find a few.
    I’ve got over twenty already!

    We’ll see how that pans out for you in two weeks and six days.
    Say hello to the wife and kids for me.

  119. Delta A says:

    Our junta runs on sneering and needling.

    Don’t forget ribbing, or, en espanol nervaduras

    And the daily dose of agarol.

    Don’t want grumpy little revolutionaries, do we?

  120. Rorschach says:

    On the topic of mandatory electric vehicles for all government agencies just announced by Biden:

    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2021/01/26/joe-biden-signs-executive-order-make-all-federal-vehicles-electric/

    I note that Nancy Pelosi (a bit before the announcement bought an option to buy 2500 Tesla shares at $500 each. [Apparently in Dec last year – with the price under this in Nov]. The share price is now $880+ (and rising) and so she has made nearly a million dollars (and rising).

    https://disclosures-clerk.house.gov/public_disc/ptr-pdfs/2021/20018011.pdf

  121. Nick says:

    The only way to acknowledge you have read something on that blog is to press the like button.

    Is this a Freedom Tree House blog requirement or you’ll get the wooden spoon ?

  122. Leigh Lowe says:

    so this is how hard you need to trawl to find something to tie us all together?

    Trying to get to why you gave the Big Tick to a Faulty post describing Sinc as a Big Colluder with me and others.
    Pretty simple.
    Do you endorse Faulty’s theory?
    The “like” button seems to suggest you do.
    .
    (Cue lots of bluster and unicorn spotting).

  123. Nick says:

    Delta, por supuesto no.

  124. Struth says:

    I’m in your head Frank, and it’s a mess in here.

  125. mh:

    The leftist mainstream media is trying its best to ignore the murder of a 3-year-old adopted white girl allegedly at the hands of her black far-left mother.

    Along with the young white bloke being bashed by a black mob, (link, anyone?) does anyone not believe we are in a Whites Open Season in the US?

  126. Leigh Lowe says:

    The only way to acknowledge you have read something on that blog is to press the like button.

    Bzzt.
    No.
    You could pick up the accusation Faulty made against Sinc and me, paste it in a following comment and say something like “Faulty, what the fuck are you talking about?”

  127. Nick says:

    Leigh, did you know an event preceded the RMIT ‘top blowing’? This is just part of it

    What I have in mind is a simple website with that clip, inviting people to send in known residential addresses of –
    – Members of the Victorian Police Force, and
    – Members of the Victorian Parliament.

  128. Delta A says:

    Si, senor Nick. 🙂

  129. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    I used to play Junta!, it was fun especially with lubrication. But that was a while ago.
    Might be worth printing an American version in light of recent events.

    Junta is a board game designed by Merlin Southwell first published in 1978 by Creative Wargames Workshop and published, as of 1985, by West End Games. Players compete as the corrupt power elite families of a fictional parody of a stereotypical banana republic (specifically Republica de los Bananas) trying to get as much money as possible into their Swiss bank accounts before the foreign aid money runs out. Fighting in the republic’s capital during recurrent coup attempts encompasses most of the game’s equipment, rules and playtime. This game-within-the-game is however actually tangential to the players’ main goal.

  130. Leigh Lowe says:

    The only way to acknowledge you have read something on that blog is to press the like button.

    So.
    How do all those site visitors you claim to have attracted ever read anything?
    The number of ‘likes’ is very low (usually just the three of you in a circle-jerk) but you claim to have hundreds of visitors.
    Do they go there just to look at the header without reading anything.
    2/10 – try harder.

  131. Struth says:

    Yawn, Frank and his girls trying to tie me to what a bloke I argue with all the time says.

    Sad when you’ve got SFA on me because I stand by what I say, and not what others say.
    So you have to try to tie me to MV, who if anyone remembers here, was scathing and absolutely furious with me because I wanted him to stop talking about cunnilingus and he thought I accused him of going down for the growl on his dead missus…when she was actually dead. He wanted to kill me. Now I’m in cahoots with him………..oooooohhh woooow……. a silly old man is not the devil Frank, and you know it, you’re just playing ugly games here, and people can see it.
    As I said earlier, you show your true self daily now, and it’s sickening to see.

  132. incoherent rambler says:

    it was fun especially with lubrication

    No sex games on this blog please.

  133. Leigh Lowe says:

    Nick

    #3739120, posted on January 27, 2021 at 6:27 pm

    Leigh, did you know an event preceded the RMIT ‘top blowing’? This is just part of it

    Yes.
    The ultimate in doxxing.
    Which is why I think a few here had a bit of a panic attack about having provided email addresses and other identifying details to the Furniture Store a few months prior.

  134. Delta A says:

    Johannes Leak has an article in The Oz re: cartoons and the pandemic.

    I’ve ditched my sub. Would some kind Cat post it, please?

  135. MatrixTransform says:

    I thought runnymouth was NFA

  136. calli says:

    Just to put Obiden’s EO numbers into perspective.

    Between inauguration and 26/1/16, President Trump signed 4.

  137. Nick says:

    Which is why I think a few here had a bit of a panic attack about having provided email addresses and other identifying details to the Furniture Store a few months prior.

    Yes, the penny dropping that the late night lonely heart may have been more dangerous than they had thought.

  138. Leigh Lowe says:

     I wanted him to stop talking about cunnilingus 

    Yes, yes.
    Apart from cunning-linguist, what else do you disagree on.
    I get it.
    That is a very common ground of disagreement among red-blooded Aussie males. I hear gravelly voices in front bars all across this sunburnt country arguing about cunning-linguist all the time.
    Particularly the appropriateness of post-mortem cunning-linguist.
    But is there anything else you disagree on?
    Whether or not, for example, Sinc is sponsoring my junta?

  139. Arky says:

    God.
    More of this shit. Could we all just agree that:
    MV was a cockhead. Good riddance.
    LL is a snide wanker.
    Struth is a bloviating retard.
    Nick, and that other idiot are spineless toadies.
    Davidson is a Turnbull- loving softcock.
    Notafan is an irritating old biddy.
    Move on cock knockers.

  140. Nick says:

    Delta:

    What’s so funny about a pandemic?

    The year 2020 will forever be known as the year of COVID-19 and the collective madness of a world coming to grips with it. Of how the citizens of the entire world became active players in a great unfolding human drama of life and death, and of how our freedoms were suddenly and casually dismantled by a cosseted class of politicians, law enforcement and all-knowing medical experts.

    Finding angles to draw what has been an undeniable human tragedy at first seemed daunting. How do you strike the balance between being insensitive enough to get a laugh but sensitive enough to appear not totally inhuman?

    Cartoons in the time of Covid-19

    Early trepidation gave way to optimism when Australians’ first observable response to this mysterious new respiratory infection was to strip supermarket shelves of toilet paper and to fight over the scraps in the aisles.

    Then, as speculation into the origins of the virus began, rumours included a leak — deliberate or otherwise — from a hi-tech and secretive virology lab in Wuhan and, even better, the possibility that someone may have unleashed the bug when they inadvertently brunched on a bad batch of bat.

    Maybe cartooning the pandemic was going to be easier than I thought.

    Illustration: Johannes Leak
    Illustration: Johannes Leak
    The cartoon as a variation on a theme is a time-honoured tradition. Cartoonists initially found themselves having to improvise on the motif of the pandemic the same way they’ve riffed endlessly on setups like the hapless castaway marooned in the middle of the ocean on a tiny sandy island with one coconut palm.

    One Canadian cartoonist married the two motifs memorably by drawing the shaggy castaway ­hiding behind the palm tree to avoid being spotted by a passing cruise liner.

    Predictably enough, however, it was the response of our politicians, public officials and law enforcement agencies to the virus that provided the richest vein of subject matter for my work during the pandemic. Their displays of ham-fisted heavy-handedness, staggering incompetence, inconsistency, heartlessness, naked opportunism and self-interest meant I was never short of material to work with and authority figures to lampoon.

    As the previously unimaginable concept of statewide lockdowns became a reality, and as lives, livelihoods and the economy were sent into freefall, cranking the imagery all the way to post-apocalyptic was irresistible. The question of whether a scorched-earth strategy could do more harm than good resulted in several cartoons set in a bleak, smouldering wasteland; tumbleweeds blowing through hollowed-out shopping strips past burnt-out cars and boarded-up shopfronts.

    Fear and anxiety gripped the nation as news channels pumped out a torrent of scary statistics, 24/7. Fittingly, cartoonists revelled in the opportunity to populate scenes not only with men in biohazard suits straight out of a science-fiction film, but countless grim reapers and even zombies as well.

    Illustration: Johannes Leak
    And who could forget the scenes from Melbourne when a phalanx of riot police stormed Victoria Markets, their stormtrooper outfits set off ludicrously by piles of bananas and oranges on either side. Naturally, they also found their way into several cartoons, marching alongside Chairman Dan’s black limousine as he poked out the sunroof, shouting through a megaphone.

    Just as a virus has the potential to mutate into a limitless array of nasty variations, the pandemic offered up an infinite number of situations, aspects and angles to draw in cartoons.

    So, what’s so funny about a pandemic? Fortunately, if you’re a cartoonist, the answer is plenty.

  141. Leigh Lowe says:

    Delta A

    #3739121, posted on January 27, 2021 at 6:27 pm

    Si, senor Nick. 

    Stick it up your junta, Delta!
    😀😀😀
    (h/t The London Sun during the Falklands War)

  142. feelthebern says:

    What came as a shock was stumbling over the evidence,

    This line made me laugh out loud.
    Out loud.

  143. Harlequin Decline says:

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3739098, posted on January 27, 2021 at 6:14 pm

    Sure , but the annual suicides are around 5,000 and traffic deaths are the order of 2,000 so a reasonable variation on these may move the % increase a little but I doubt it would be significant. Of course delayed treatment is harder to assess and can be viewed as either directly or indirectly caused.

  144. notafan says:

    You left out bespoke and KD oh mighty Arky.

  145. Arky says:

    You’re all boring me and I’m beginning to lose my patience and normal good natured joviality.

  146. Top Ender says:

    Notafan’s link to Anthony Dillon’s pushback on noisy types advocating for an Oz Day change includes a poll.

    Presently:

    Should the date of Australia Day on January 26 be changed?
    Yes 11%
    No 85%

  147. Leigh Lowe says:

    Arky.
    Not so fast.
    I have been promoted to leader of the junta.
    My life’s ambition.
    I tend to bask in it for a bit.
    Then wield power ruthlessly.

  148. Neil says:

    Duck Egg Joe was Warner’s mate though, and that’s a good enough reason to give him the arse.

    Since 2014 when Joe Burns was picked to be Warners opening partner has their been anybody better than Joe Burns???

  149. Arky says:

    You left out bespoke and KD oh mighty Arky.

    ..
    No, bspoke was “that other idiot”.
    And I can’t say anything against KD, he might hurt me.

  150. Nick says:

    You left out bespoke and KD oh mighty Arky.

    They have been shamed

  151. Struth says:

    Looking at his first paragraph, he might be right, you couldn’t blame him for coming to that conclusion.
    What he thinks about Sinclair is probably over the top, but he’s said much about things…he is a bit of a conspiracy theorist in my view.

    I am not him.
    And going back many years ago, he used to come up with some good information, and now he is very old, many strokes and near death, lost his wife, which sent him on his wrongful course with that woman who had all the emotional problems….. he losing the plot…….he shouldn’t be a concern for you whatever he thinks.
    Grow up.
    The bloke is nearly dead and he goes back along way and I’ve argued with him for years.
    How I deal with MV is my business and I feel no need to explain to a wanker like you why I still give him the time of day.

  152. Leigh Lowe says:

    MatrixTransform

    #3739133, posted on January 27, 2021 at 6:34 pm

    I thought runnymouth was NFA

    Well, it’s a sock, that is for sure.

  153. Leigh Lowe says:

    Right.
    The pity card.
    He used to play it all the time as an excuse and a diversion.
    Like he was the only person ever to suffer loss or get crook.

  154. Nick says:

    I am not him.
    And going back many years ago, he used to come up with some good information, and now he is very old, many strokes and near death, lost his wife, which sent him on his wrongful course with that woman who had all the emotional problems…

    He’s Darth Vader?

  155. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    brunched on a bad batch of bat.

    Wow, Johannes can write too! Some people are awesome overachievers. I think the selectors should pick him at #5 for the RSA tour.

  156. lotocoti says:

    Many of those extra deaths would’ve also been from the NHS cancelling vast numbers of normal procedures because panic.

    Which saves the NHS an awful lot of money.
    Estimates published last year put the total cost of outstanding compensation claims at £83bn.
    NHS England’s total budget in 2018-19 was £129bn.

  157. feelthebern says:

    Neil, what was Burns Jr like around the house growing up?

  158. Leigh Lowe says:

    Looking at his first paragraph, he might be right, you couldn’t blame him for coming to that conclusion.
    What he thinks about Sinclair is probably over the top, but he’s said much about things…he is a bit of a conspiracy theorist in my view.

    Which bits do you agree with or disagree with?

  159. feelthebern says:

    The NHS continues to kill people to this day by over ventilating people to “protect” NHS workers.
    Elon Musk pointed this out last April.
    Hopefully, one day, the NHS decision makers who decreed this will all be outed.

  160. Leigh Lowe says:

    The NHS continues to kill people to this day by over ventilating people to “protect” NHS workers.

    The NHS is the new deity.
    They must be protected from … from … doing their job.

  161. Struth says:

    Read that paragraph again Frank, and tell me where I said I agree with him.
    Personally , I think he gives you lot too much credit. Conspiracy theorists tend to do that.
    To me, you’re just a bunch of useless fuckwits.

  162. calli says:

    The NHS is the new deity.

    Remember the London olympics?

  163. John Brumble says:

    Hey KD and Leigh –
    Trying to find the bits where Neil made snide comments for weeks on end about Maxwell.

    Not finding any.

    You’re a pair of partisan, whinging clowns.

    Now, if you want to argue that Maxwell was hard done by, then you’ll get no argument from me, but right now, your position seems to be “Maxwell was hard done by so they need to do the wrong thing by an entirely different guy and pick a Dictorian and if they don’t (and even if we do) we’re going to continue to make irrelevant, nasty, snide comments about a guy who’s lost a big part of his livelihood.”

    So no, I take that back. You two aren’t clowns, you’re parasites.

  164. feelthebern says:

    Has the data regarding hospital deaths been released ?
    Regardless, some of those excess deaths were directly caused by the treatment policies by the NHS.

  165. Neil says:

    Neil, what was Burns Jr like around the house growing up?

    Answer the question. Since Burns was picked in 2014 to be Warners opening partner has there been a better opening batsman than Joe Burns???

  166. calli says:

    I’d like to see reinfection rates. That would give an idea of antibody protection.

  167. Struth says:

    Although I do have my theories about Frank and the Liberal party, I mean, who could blame me?

  168. Roger says:

    If CL is around:

    I note Qld police are reportedly preparing a charge of fetal homicide in regard to he Alexandra Hills incident.

  169. feelthebern says:

    Dunno Neil.
    Haven’t watched cricket for ages.
    If you read up thread my questions to KD were pre the Burns era.

  170. Leigh Lowe says:

    Read that paragraph again Frank, and tell me where I said I agree with him.

    The “like” button.
    And the Faulty’s post is reproduced above in full (apart from a lifted blockquote from another post).
    It is wall-to-wall batshit crazy stuff.
    All of it.
    Why did you “like” it?
    Because you believe it?
    Or just to make a silly old duffer feel good?

  171. John Brumble says:

    Nick said:

    With regards to Maxwell, wasn’t there chirp, seemingly deliberately put about, that he wasn’t ‘ a stable team player’?

    You’re right. It was a clear example of the “in” crowd Othering a play who wasn’t part of the clique. Bullying behaviour at its finest.

    Leigh and KD think the best method of combating this insidious clique is to regurgitate the party line.

  172. Dover Beach:
    Someone may have caught up with the query you made, but just in case…

    As Church Militant reported last week, on Nov. 6 Mr. Sławomir suffered a heart attack followed by brain hypoxia and coma. According to the man’s mother who lives in Poland, the hospital said he will never wake up and his life in such a state is “unworthy.” But she said her son wakes up, breathes on his own, reacts to his name and even cries at times.

    Regarding Mr. Sławomir’s being fed intravenously, left-wing MP Maciej Gdula said, “Disconnecting [the patient] from the apparatus means allowing normal processes to take place and for this man to die.”

    Green garbed Nazis with notebooks making life and death decisions for people on an ideological basis. Where did we see this before?

  173. kaysee says:

    It’s very comfortable being a member of the media peanut gallery when you don’t think the opinions of the 80 million Americans disenfranchised in November are important.

    Kenny, with his loony left Marxist son, is terrified of losing dinner party invitations from the wokerati in Sydney’s inner suburbs — just another media coward who I’m now listening to with the sound turned down.

    Every supporter of the lefty causes has a self-interest agenda. They know the truth, but stating it publicly would mean losing the benefits you get as a wokerati ally.

  174. Zyconoclast says:

    If it has to be George Michael

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnhNwcfZPpg

  175. Nick says:

    John Brumble, KD is also hard on Warner, as am I. I would say that obviously, Australian selectors too, agree with both gentlemen.

  176. Leigh Lowe says:

    Brumble.
    I made no statement about Maxwell.
    For the record, I don’t reckon he is up to Test cricket.
    As for Burns, someone upthread hit the nail on the head. He formed an alliance with The Cheating Houso Ranga as a insurance policy.
    That was not only disgraceful but dangerous.
    How long before the Ranga tees up a junior partner dependent on him for his spot to do something dodgy.
    Like Bancroft.

  177. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Heck of a shot…..

    Good shooting, indeed.

  178. Delta A says:

    Thanks, Nick.

  179. Dr Faustus says:

    Hard coking coal US150/t

    There is a wide range of coking coal prices – industry spot prices for North American Atlantic Coast supply to China are up to US$210+/tonnes fob.

    Xi inflicted pain.

  180. Struth says:

    Why do you constantly pull your dick Frank, because you are trying to get the wrinkles out, or because it makes a silly old duffer feel good?

  181. feelthebern:
    The Buttigeig photo pose, from the NYTimes.

  182. Mitch M. says:

    The data keeps piling up. The associations are still statistical but I’ve read researchers who stated they would never take these drugs. There is a physiological basis for the increased risk of dementia(very substantial increase in the below study) and that worries me because tricyclic antidepressants are widely used and have an anticholinergic effect, as do antipsychotics.

    https://www.dementia.org.au/sites/default/files/helpsheets/Helpsheet-DementiaQandA24_AnticholinergicDrugs_english.pdf

    Cumulative use of strong anticholinergics and incident dementia: a prospective cohort study
    Results: The most common anticholinergic classes used were tricyclic antidepressants, first-generation antihistamines, and bladder antimuscarinics.

    Conclusions and relevance: Higher cumulative anticholinergic use is associated with an increased risk for dementia. Efforts to increase awareness among health care professionals and older adults about this potential medication-related risk are important to minimize anticholinergic use over time.

  183. Leigh Lowe says:

    Struth

    #3739173, posted on January 27, 2021 at 6:56 pm

    Although I do have my theories about Frank and the Liberal party, I mean, who could blame me?

    Noooo!
    The ultimate calumny!
    To be accused of links to the Liberal Party.
    Let me state here and now that I have rarely ever been a member of any party and have not donated money to any party in my own name.

  184. rickw says:

    Why the Chicoms hate Christianity:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dkAgTPHnRo

  185. Neil says:

    As for Burns, someone upthread hit the nail on the head. He formed an alliance with The Cheating Houso Ranga as a insurance policy.

    Conspiracy theory?? Fact is you guys are bad judges

    Since 2014 there has been nobody found better than Joe Burns to open the batting with Warner.

    The brain dead selectors have gone back to Marcus Harris who is averaging 24 in Test cricket

  186. kaysee says:

    The covid thing will quietly disappear of the leftist radar when the CCP release their new improved pandemic.

    Sometime, next year, just before the US mid-term elections?

    And a superior, new, improved version in early 2024 so that voting by mail in ballots only will have to be compulsory.

  187. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Geez, there’s an infestation today. Mr Brumble:

    ‘Now, if you want to argue that Maxwell was hard done by’
    No, I don’t.

    ‘then you’ll get no argument from me, but right now, your position seems to be “Maxwell was hard done by so they need to do the wrong thing by an entirely different guy and pick a Dictorian’
    No, it’s not. Pucovski and Harris were and are the only specialist openers to make double centuries in the Shield so far this season, which would indicate they’re in better nick than Duck Egg Joe.

    ‘and if they don’t (and even if we do) we’re going to continue to make irrelevant, nasty, snide comments about a guy who’s lost a big part of his livelihood.”’

    $300,000 a year, representing his country. Failed and dropped. Isn’t the first and won’t be the last. The original problem was that Hohns and Langer stuck with Burns because he was in The Club, and because another Club member (Warner) liked him.

    The rest is response to ‘but why?’ ‘but why?’ ‘but why?’ which after a while develops its own comic attraction.

  188. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘Fact is you guys are bad judges’

    He said, cheering on a shattered bloke for his sixth Test recall in five years.

  189. feelthebern says:

    Coking coal cargoes out of Australia are fascinating.

  190. Leigh Lowe says:

    Sinc.
    Check your email.

  191. Candy, one of the photos of the little girl shows her sitting in her mothers lap, but her head is moved away from the mum.
    Make of it what you will.

  192. Knuckle Dragger says:

    If we could knock off the cricket talk for an hour or so, it would be appreciated.

    I’m researching. Specifically, trying to identify a word rhyming with junta.

  193. Neil says:

    Pucovski and Harris were and are the only specialist openers to make double centuries in the Shield so far this season, which would indicate they’re in better nick than Duck Egg Joe.

    Is Pucovski a specialist opener?? Genuine question.

    Secondly Harris got 5 and 38 in the last test taking his Test batting average from 26 to 24

    Give me Joe Burns anyday. And they did not stick with Burns. They dropped him 5 times trying to find someone better then dropped him a 6 th time. If they had stuck with him when picked in 2014 he would have played 30-40 Tests by now with a batting average of 38

    Fact is you are a bad judge

  194. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Coking coal cargoes out of Australia are fascinating.

    Be interesting if some of this sort of thing was going on.
    Iran & China “Caught Red-Handed” In Illicit Oil Transfer Off Indonesia (26 Jun)
    Hey look my cheap Aussie coking coal suddenly became Indonesian. It’s a miracle!

  195. notafan says:

    Punter, near enough.

  196. Struth says:

    Actually I will tell you why I still reply to MV.
    We hardly agree on anything, and he knows it.
    We’ve always argued about things. And he went off the rails and for a long time we all watched him make an idiot of himself with that “Ellie” I think it was.
    None of us are perfect, and as stated, he has threatened to kill me.
    We’ve had some good clashes.
    And he now may be off with the fairies on some topics, and he thinks I am with others.
    But he’s not playing the arsehole games you are playing Frank, and he is more of a man than you will ever be. With all his faults.
    He still respects what I have to say, and that I stand by what I believe in, even if he disagrees, and if after all the disagreements we have had, he can still do that, in his last days, I will acknowledge him and talk to him.
    He deteriorated on a blog in front of us all, as happens to the elderly, and when shit like that happens it sometimes, unfortunately, happens publicly.
    Just lucky your so perfect Frank, and you’ll never have to worry about it happening to you……
    But I’ll converse with whoever I dam well feel like, and honestly with MV, it would be about politics, no matter how nutty, and not the bitchy stuff you go on with.

  197. Roger says:

    Heck of a shot…..

    And he may have to leave the police as a result.

    What message does that send?

    And/or is that the point?

  198. WX says:

    Mitch M.
    #3739191, posted on January 27, 2021 at 7:03 pm

    Can you please tell me what a tricyclic antidepressant is?

  199. Doc Beaugan:

    No, the statue of Karl Marx should not be removed from Highgate cemetery. Yes, he was a shit, but he was a significant shit. Don’t mess with history.

    Every day the statue of Marx remains standing while Andre Jacksons statue remains destroyed is another minor victory for the Left, and another minor defeat for the Conservatives.
    Perhaps we should start punishing the Left for its censorial actions?

  200. dover_beach says:

    On US politics, Sky News is now peddling the same rubbish as the ABC.

    Chris Kenny just had on some Never Trump talking head* from some obscure US network I’ve never heard of, who apparently calls himself a journalist, and he agreed with Kenny that Trump’s behaviour since the November election had been “disgraceful”.

    Tom, have any one of the talking heads on SkyNews had Barnes or Baris or Baynard to actually talk in any detail about the election irregularities that are at the heart of Trump’s claims? Has this actually happened on any Australian network?

  201. Spurgeon Monkfish III says:

    Their displays of ham-fisted heavy-handedness, staggering incompetence, inconsistency, heartlessness, naked opportunism and self-interest

    But enough about their good points.

  202. miltonf says:

    Biden’s health secretary should be in a psychiatric institution. Just grotesque and obscene.

  203. Nick says:

    “ We hardly agree on anything”, “he has threatened to kill me”.

    Yep, you guys are completely sane.

  204. Cassie of Sydney says:

    I think Struth and LL would make a good shidduch….I can imagine them in the Shtetl…throwing radishes and onions at each other.

    No bacon allowed!

  205. Delta A says:

    I’ve been waiting for you guys to be quiet so that I can take advantage of the pre-dinner lull to post a film review. But it seems like you’re never gunna shut up, so here it is.

    The Railway man. According to Wiki: Australian war film directed by Jonathan Teplitzky. It is an adaptation of the 1995 autobiography of the same name by Eric Lomax, and stars Colin Firth, Nicole Kidman…

    Some might find this too slow, or confusing with its many flashbacks, but if you can weather that (and a sweet little love story) you’ll find a tragic, gripping story of extraordinary courage. Set largely in Kanchanaburi , the film follows the tribulations of the British soldiers after the the fall of Singapore, and the prisoners of war who died building the Thailand–Burma Railway.

    Eric Lomax, a British Army Officer, was viciously tortured by Japanese soldier/interpreter Takashi Nagase during his time as a POW. Years later, the experiences haunt Lomax, almost debilitating him. Then, when he’d thought that all the Japanese involved had died, or were incarcerated due to war crimes, he learns that Nagase is alive, conducting tours of Kanchanaburi, the place of his horrific torture.

    A true story, it was particularly intense for me because we have visited the Kanchanaburi war cemetery, toured (in anguish) the Jeath museum and stood on the tiny platform on the railway bridge over the River Khwae Yai, waiting for the train to pass. We also travelled on that train, marvelling at the incredible feat, mourning the dreadful loss of life: one body for each kilometer, we were told.

  206. Roger:

    Police are only able to bring two charges of murder – whereas three lives were ended.

    They could bring a charge of fetal homicide -maximum sentence life imprisononment – I don’t know why they haven’t. We can only await more information on that.

    The police have probably been instructed to not pursue this line because tin of worms upsetting their Leftard bosses.

  207. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘Is Pucovski a specialist opener?? Genuine question.’

    You had a genuine answer last Friday, which a) I answered in very good faith almost immediately after, b) you ignored, and c) you refused to go and find.

    This tells me you’re not interested in genuine questions or debate. You are a troll, and that is the reason you’re treated the way you are.

  208. Mitch M. says:

    WX
    #3739218, posted on January 27, 2021 at 7:25 pm
    Mitch M.
    #3739191, posted on January 27, 2021 at 7:03 pm

    Can you please tell me what a tricyclic antidepressant is?

    A common class of antidepressants. “Tricyclic” relates to the structure of the molecule. There are other antidepressants available(SSRI, SNRI). MAOs are also antidepressants from the 60’s but rarely prescribed now. I was taking mirtazapine, a tricyclic, because of recurrent depression but stopped that some years ago. When I explained to my GP about the literature he didn’t accept my judgement call and probably never will but the evidence keeps accumulating; now several years worth.

    If your doctor prescribes an antidepressant ask for an SSRI or SNRI and refuse any tricyclics; but you will have to make that refusal clear because most GPs, and probably a number of psychiatrists, still refuse to recognise that other options should be explored. The latest antidepressant craze is ketamine, a horse tranquilizer. I know the pharmacology of ketamine, far too many long term risks in my view but they’ll keep prescribing it until like tricyclics decades later … .

  209. calli says:

    Ahahah!

    The Cat has a Matchmaker!

  210. Cassie of Sydney says:

    ““ We hardly agree on anything”, “he has threatened to kill me”.”

    Threatening to kill someone is more than a disagreement.

  211. miltonf says:

    IT was right after all- big corporations are evil

  212. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    tricyclic

    Three joined rings, usually of carbon atoms (but sometimes with some nitrogens* or other atoms). It’s an organic chemistry term. But as a class of antidepressants I’d have to defer to Mitch.

    * Caffeine for example is a bicyclic aromatic** compound with two nitrogens in each ring, the rest carbons.
    ** Another organic chemistry term which gets fairly quantum mechanical when you try to explain it.

    Sorry, I’ll go back to my SF novel now and shut up.

  213. lotocoti says:

    If they had stuck with him when picked in 2014 he would have played 30-40 Tests by now with a batting average of 38.

    Past results are no guarantee of future performance.

  214. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘I am not him.
    And going back many years ago, he used to come up with some good information, and now he is very old, many strokes and near death, lost his wife, which sent him on his wrongful course with that woman who had all the emotional problems…’

    Nick:

    ‘He’s Darth Vader?’

    Ha!

    This reeks of ‘leave the silly old man alone’. At best this is airbrushing and at worst ignoring the dangerous, manipulative lunatic still clinging to the concept of obtaining a Senate seat and staff, at public expense, to further his own cause.

  215. …mourning the dreadful loss of life: one body for each kilometer, we were told.

    More like: One life for every sleeper.

  216. Rex Anger says:

    I think Struth and LL would make a good shidduch….I can imagine them in the Shtetl…throwing radishes and onions at each other.

    No bacon allowed!

    Wot, that pair of hams?

    Good luck to that, Cassie!

  217. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    prisoners of war who died building the Thailand–Burma Railway.

    My one time FIL was one of the prisoners who worked on that railway. It was the early 1980’s before he would buy a Japanese made car.

  218. WX says:

    Mitch M.

    Thanks.
    Any thoughts on Desvenlafaxine, commonly marketed as Pristique?

  219. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Wot, that pair of hams?

    Good luck to that, Cassie!”

    LOL.

  220. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    More like: One life for every sleeper.

    Quite right.

  221. WX says:

    Thanks, Bruce of Newcastle.

  222. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘You need to break away from the gang KD, you’re better than this.’

    I most certainly am not.

  223. My one time FIL was one of the prisoners who worked on that railway. It was the early 1980’s before he would buy a Japanese made car.

    One of my jobs, I forget which year, was on a station, as some were, that used only Landrovers.
    Furthermore, despite some very good scrub soils & downs country, the boss would not fatten cattle, selling only store steers.
    He never talked about why – heh, the boss’ decisions are never to be questioned.
    But it was pretty bluddee obvious why.

  224. Delta A says:

    More like: One life for every sleeper.

    That’s probably correct, Sal. I couldn’t recall the figures and didn’t want to exaggerate something so horrendous.

  225. Delta A, thank you for the movie review. I’ll be sure to watch the ruddy movie now.
    Have started the movie a couple of times, but find the flashback & jumping around a little confronting – plus I’ve not been able to imagine how a movie – especially one with a female lead role – could possibly come close to the book.

    The book is one helluva gripping read.

  226. Dot says:

    Vomit worthy bilge. 🤮

    Lefty who can’t get a job in the real world literally blames the Free State Project for bear attacks.

    Time to get Quimby to roll out the Bear Patrol stealth bombers.

    I also have a rock that keeps tigers away.

    https://medium.com/curious/does-freedom-even-exist-ce8f34d8ed1f

  227. Delta A, that’s the title of one of the books (mostly it is pictures & photos) on my shelf – it goes into I forget how much detail, haven’t read it in 30 years – however the one-life;one-sleeper ratio is apparently more or less accurate.

  228. Geriatric Mayfly says:

    It’s happening. My Wollemi Pine has transitioned. Over endowed with female flower heads and possibly fakes, with not a male catkin to be found. The cockies however, are busy performing rather radical surgery and detransitioning those pendant globes which look a bit suspect. One glance and I feel the pain of their handiwork. I await the day they reattach full manhood to the tree.

  229. miltonf says:

    The world took a very nasty turn in 2020- the process has been going on for decades imo but last year the ratchet went snap again.

  230. Dot says:

    Anyway

    John Kerry is going to the world – NOW, finally!

    After 40 years in politics, having a BA in pol. sci. and a J.D., this lawyer is going to outsmart literally hundreds of thousands of Ph D scientists.

  231. Dot says:

    SAVE the world

    Fuck you autocorrect.

  232. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Delta,

    The Railway Man. Okay. Will give it a run.

  233. Ed Case says:

    ***Past results are no guarantee of future performance.***
    There are no guarantees in Cricket, everyone starts on nought not out.
    However, past performance is a pretty good indicator of future performance..

  234. miltonf says:

    Kerry filth eh. The one who pretended he was still secretary of state.

  235. miltonf says:

    What about Clinton? Maybe make her an ambassador or sumpin.

  236. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘However, past performance is a pretty good indicator of future performance..’

    We’re agreed then. Burnserooney doesn’t get another go.

  237. Struth says:

    This reeks of ‘leave the silly old man alone’. At best this is airbrushing and at worst ignoring the dangerous, manipulative lunatic still clinging to the concept of obtaining a Senate seat and staff, at public expense, to further his own cause.

    Oh yes, ol’ Vicpol intellect, he’s almost as dangerous as a pregnant mum in her pajamas.

    FMD…get your hand orf ut…

  238. Struth says:

    He probably has an unlicensed zimmer frame, surely you still have some connections, KD?

  239. Neil says:

    Past results are no guarantee of future performance.

    Joe Burns is an average player who averages 38 opening the bat in the longer form of the game.

    Since 2014 selectors have not found anybody better than Burns to bat with Warner

    And is Pucovski a specialist opener?? Genuine question.

  240. Snoopy says:

    Mobile phone footage of the 17 year old car Logan thief cum multi murderer broadcast on the television news seems to show what looks like a dusky arm gesticulating out the driver’s window. Overcome by Invasion Day celebrations?

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