For almost everyone, coronavirus is also pretty safe stuff

The vaccine fiasco in Brisbane may, paradoxically, show just how safe vaccines are. If you can give four times the specified dose to people in their 80s and 90s and not cause a negative medical reaction in them, it’s pretty safe stuff.”

– China Flu scaredy-cat Greg Sheridan rushes to defend the vaccine economy berocca this morning against “crazy anti-vax sentiment,” “conspiracy madness,” “instinctive nutters,” “conspiracy tomfoolery” and believers in the “lizard illuminati.” He doesn’t mention psychologically normal adults unafraid of catching a cold.

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50 Responses to For almost everyone, coronavirus is also pretty safe stuff

  1. Strayan Drongo says:

    Greg is a deep state narrative enforcer first and a soft conservative second. He used to be sensible.

  2. Spurgeon Monkfish III says:

    He doesn’t mention psychologically normal adults unafraid of catching a cold.

    Who may also strongly resent being forced by big stupid government to take a rushed and dodgy “vaccine”.

  3. feelthebern says:

    On most subjects now, Sheridan parrots the statist view.
    Sad.

  4. JMH says:

    That “medical reaction” Gregsie mentions may not manifest for some time. I wonder what the PMs may indicate at the time of death and of course, we won’t be informed of any ‘adverse’ findings, will we?

  5. stackja says:

    How dangerous is Wuhan virus to healthy people?
    Regarding the jab I will be guided by my GP.

  6. Gerry says:

    The hazards of overlapping clinical trials with a roll out. With any luck the recipients got the placebo, there’s half a chance it might be less harmless.

  7. Tom says:

    Every time I see Sheridan’s byline, that’s one thing less I have to read at the Paywallian (with my subscription hanging by a thread). Me reminds me of the saying: people who believe in nothing will believe anything. He’s an Australian journalism bureaucrat.

  8. 132andBush says:

    The fervor to lump clear thinking and rational people who have reservations about getting the vaccine, because of it’s rushed development, in with anti vax nutters and conspiracy theorists is astonishing.
    There can be NO deviation of thought.

  9. MPH says:

    Ironic that the oldies lack of an immune system, while potentially problematic for the actual virus, may have saved them from the vaccine overdose.

  10. egg_ says:

    He doesn’t mention psychologically normal adults unafraid of catching a cold.

    Who may also strongly resent being forced by big stupid government to take a rushed and dodgy “vaccine”.

    The four-eyed pencil-necked bearded hunchback geek* can shove it up his @rse.

    *All that’s missing is a bowtie.

  11. Fred says:

    The median age of death from the Wuhan virus is 86.

    I’m 44.

    I’m not anti-vaccine, just anti-panic.

  12. A Lurker says:

    I’m no longer a subscriber to The Australian newspaper, but I couldn’t help but note the following headline in today’s online paper:

    Winter influenza deaths fell to just two
    Just two people in Australia died from influenza between late April and November last year, and the overall number of recorded deaths across the country was significantly lower in 2020 than in recent years.

    So, either hygiene has drastically improved, virtually eliminating influenza; or, incidents of influenza were marked down as Covid in order to inflate mortality rates for that virus.

    I’ll let you draw your own conclusions.

    p.s. In 2019 more than 800 influenza-associated deaths had been officially recorded.
    In 2020-2021 there were 909 Covid-associated deaths in Australia.

  13. A Lurker says:

    I’m no longer a subscriber to The Australian newspaper, but I couldn’t help but note the following headline in today’s online paper:

    Winter influenza deaths fell to just two
    Just two people in Australia died from influenza between late April and November last year, and the overall number of recorded deaths across the country was significantly lower in 2020 than in recent years.

    So, either hygiene has drastically improved, virtually eliminating influenza; or, incidents of influenza were marked down as Covid in order to inflate mortality rates for that virus.

    I’ll let you draw your own conclusions.

    p.s. In 2019 more than 800 influenza-associated deaths had been officially recorded.
    In 2020-2021 there were 909 Covid associated deaths in Australia.

  14. A Lurker says:

    Apologies for the double post.

  15. Candy says:

    Just as well it wasn’t morphine.

    Are they employing doctors who cannot read dosages and just take a guess?

    People this age should not be used as guinea pigs. Terrible medicine.

  16. another ian says:

    FWIW

    “I posted this on Farcebook and have already had one person tell me to shut up and be happy to be a guinea pig for something that may help others even though we’re told that getting the vaccine will not do anything that a vaccine is supposed to so. I give up, bring on the asteroid because we, as a species, are just too stupid to survive”…

    “IF I GET VACCINATED…
    ●”If I get vaccinated can I stop wearing a mask(s)?”
    Government: “NO”
    ●”If I get vaccinated will the restaurants, bars, schools, fitness clubs, hair salons, etc. reopen, and will people be able to get back to work like normal?
    Government: “NO”
    ●”If I get vaccinated will I be resistant to Covid?”
    Government: “Maybe. We don’t know exactly, but probably not.”
    ●”If I get vaccinated, at least I won’t be contagious to others – right?”
    Government: “NO. the vaccine doesn’t stop transmission.”
    ●”If I get vaccinated, how long will the vaccine last?”
    Government: “No one knows. All Covid “vaccines” are still in the experimental stage.”
    ● “If I get vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?”
    Government: “NO”
    ● “If my parents, grandparents and myself all get vaccinated can we hug each other again?”
    Government: “NO”
    ● “So what’s the benefit of getting vaccinated?”
    Government: “Hoping that the virus won’t kill you.”
    ●”Are you sure the vaccine won’t injure or kill me?”
    Government: “NO”
    ●”If statistically the virus won’t kill me (99.7% survival rate), why should I get vaccinated?”
    Government: “To protect others.”
    ●”So if I get vaccinated, I can protect 100% of people I come in contact with?”
    Government: “NO”
    ● “If I experience a severe adverse reaction, long-term effects (still unknown), or die from the vaccine will I (or my family) be compensated from the vaccine manufacture or the Government?”
    Government: “NO – the government and vaccine manufactures have 100% zero liability regarding this experimental drug”
    So to summarise, the Covid19 “vaccine”…
    Does not provide immunity
    Does not eliminate the virus
    Does not prevent death
    Does not guarantee you won’t get it
    Does not stop you from passing it on to others
    Does not eliminate the need for travel bans
    Does not eliminate the need for business closures
    Does not eliminate the need for lockdowns
    Does not eliminate the need for masking
    I am not anti-vaccine. I am pro-choice.
    Want the vaccine? Help yourself.
    Just don’t tell me your choice must also be my choice.”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/02/20/february-20-2021-reader-tips/#comment-1412811

  17. kraka says:

    O/T (sort of) On Monday it was said the Gladys B said in an interview “Monday morning, Gladys is on abc breakfast, live, and says, “The vaccine lowers symptoms. It does not stop you from getting the virus, nor does it prevent you from spreading it.”

    Were those her actual words. Ive told a lefty friend who called it fake news. I’d love to find the interview or the transcript and shove it in his face but cant find it anywhere.

    Any links appreciated

  18. kraka says:

    it was said THAT

  19. Macspee says:

    Oh, and while we are at it, why does the Federal Government not legislate for quarantine and override all the states laws (see Constitution 51(ix)). At least then we wouldn’t be in the stupid situation we are now in when Queensland still will not receive visitors from Victoria

  20. Tintarella di Luna says:

    Macspee says:
    February 25, 2021 at 1:18 pm
    Oh, and while we are at it, why does the Federal Government not legislate for quarantine and override all the states laws (see Constitution 51(ix)). At least then we wouldn’t be in the stupid situation we are now in when Queensland still will not receive visitors from Victoria

    No need for legislation he just proclaims Federal jurisdiction over all quarantine as set out in the Constitution and the states can take care of the sick when and as required but not ScumMo he wanted to loved by everyone and set up a national gabinetto from which the states just mooned him over and over and over again.

  21. John of Mel says:

    Maybe this question is sort of “out there”, but how does anyone know what they actually injecting you with?
    Theoretically it can be anything. Who, apart from the manufacturer would know? Do medical authorities get vaccine samples and do meticulous analysis of what’s in them? And do they check the later deliveries with the control sample they received earlier?

  22. stackja says:

    Regarding the jab. I await the advice of my GP.

  23. Spurgeon Monkfish III says:

    we’re told that … the vaccine will not do anything that a vaccine is supposed to do

    Exactly. So why will we be effectively compelled to take it and why would anyone who isn’t an idiot subject themselves to it?

    The observations in Ian’s comment above via SDA summarise neatly the insanity of this headlong rush to foist on the populace these useless and potentially dangerous “vaccines”.

    Yet more evidence that we are existing through the most absurd and destructive episode of mass hysteria in human history.

  24. calli says:

    I’d love to find the interview or the transcript and shove it in his face but cant find it anywhere.

    Scroll down to the Ben Fordham interview 2:20 onwards.

  25. Viva says:

    Each individual has to do there own risk assessment with regard to the vaccine. If you are older you calculate the odds of getting really sick or even dying with the civic against possible side effects

    If you are younger the calculus perhaps is weighted against taking the vaccine

    As someone in the older age bracket I have made my risk assessment and will take the
    vaccine

    Having made that decision I expect those who decide otherwise not to insist on social and travel restrictions if they suddenly feel under threat

    We all are making our bed and we will all have to lie in it

  26. Spurgeon Monkfish III says:

    “The vaccine lowers symptoms. It does not stop you from getting the virus, nor does it prevent you from spreading it.”

    If that stupid, stupid woman did utter those words on our beloved ALPBC about the “vaccines” then the interview appears to have been memory holed. What she says in the Fordham interview is basically the same thing, but couched in very evasive terms.

  27. egg_ says:

    Each individual has to do there (sic) own risk assessment with regard to the vaccine ‘Rona. If you are older you calculate the odds of getting really sick or even dying

    Backdated to Feb. 2020.

  28. mh says:

    The vaccine fiasco in Brisbane may, paradoxically, show just how safe vaccines are. If you can give four times the specified dose to people in their 80s and 90s and not cause a negative medical reaction in them, it’s pretty safe stuff.”

    Is this Greg Sheridan M.D. ?

  29. Penny says:

    Greg Sheridan (Peta Credlins favourite) painful
    So stupid to say that giving 4X the dose shows it’s safe is unbelievably stupid
    ITS THE LONG TERM EFFECTS THAT ARE THE CONCERN
    THE PHARMA COMPANIES HAVE SAID IN THEIR LITERATURE THAT THEY DONT KNOW WHAT THE LONG TERM EFFECTS WILL BE

  30. mh says:

    Ms Berejiklian said she “can’t wait” to get the vaccine.

    “I’m really looking forward to it, it will just make me feel more confident, it still means you have to be COVID-safe…because until the vast majority of the population has been vaccinated, the threat of community spread is still there, it’s massive.”
    The vaccine meant people were less likely to get seriously ill from the coronavirus if they happen to contract it, she said.
    “You won’t end up in the ICU, hopefully, and it also means you might have less likely chance of passing it on to others and that’s really important.

    Where the hell is she getting her advice from?

  31. Viva says:

    Egg:

    Thank you for pointing out the typo

    In February 2020 not much was known about the virus and it was eminently sensible for older people to act with caution

    It still makes sense to exercise caution if not for oneself but to protect older and/or sick relatives

    The vaccine largely liberates you from that worry so you can get on with your life

    Naturally there is still some risk for all sorts of reasons but all you can do is mitigate these as far as possible .For many if not most of us that entails being vaccinated

  32. Spurgeon Monkfish III says:

    Where the hell is she getting her advice from?

    Out of Chant’s fundament.

  33. Lutz says:

    A vaccine is not a drug to be administered. It is simply a fake virus simulator to make the immune system work. The waste is that 6 other people missed out. There cannot be a risk from an excess dose.

  34. H B Bear says:

    It’s so safe we can even stuff it up. Trust us.

  35. Baa Humbug says:

    I have a theory about Greg Sheridan and others like him who seem to have shifted away from logic and reason.

    First take a look at these photos of Sheridan.

    Old days Sheridan

    https://murdochbooks.com.au/images/0-sheridan-greg-LRG.jpg

    Recent Sheridan

    https://www.dow.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Greg_Sheridan-400×425.jpg

    Do you see what I see?
    Formerly reasonable people turning into illogical fools……VEGANISM.

    Now that you’ve seen the difference, you will not be able to not see this effect in other nutcases who were reasonable before veganism.

  36. Joanna Smythe says:

    Has he had the vaccine. We have been told it can do strange things to the mind.

  37. Baa Humbug says:

    It is simply a fake virus simulator to make the immune system work. The waste is that 6 other people missed out. There cannot be a risk from an excess dose.

    Old people die from things like the flu because their initial immune response is inadequate. The body then responds with a Cytokine Storm. This is what leads to dangerous inflammation, pneumonia and death (hence why they give anti-inflammatory drugs to COVID patients).

    Are you certain doctor, that some oldies with a compromised immune system won’t go into a cytokine storm situation with 6 times the dose of a weakened virus?

  38. Spurgeon Monkfish III says:

    Humbug – has Sheridan confirmed this? I seem to remember hearing/reading somewhere he’d lost shitloads of weight because he was suffering various illnesses/adverse health conditions (m00zleyphobia being one of them).

  39. Leo G says:

    The median age of death from the Wuhan virus is 86.
    I’m 44.

    Australian case fatality rate for a 44-yo male … about 0.01%
    Australian case fatalty rate for 86-yo male … about 30%

  40. twostix says:

    The vaccine meant people were less likely to get seriously ill from the coronavirus if they happen to contract it, she said.
    “You won’t end up in the ICU, hopefully, and it also means you might have less likely chance of passing it on to others and that’s really important.”

    See how hard they’re working to say-not-say that the “vaccine”, isn’t a vaccine in any sense that normal people think of one?

    It’s more like a pre-emptive treatment.

    Doesn’t make you immune, doesn’t make you not carry covid and spread it, does allow your body to fight it a bit better. It’s the zany biotech version of vitamin C (or the hugely fraudulent Tamiflu from last time around).

    So they come up with all these zany scenarios where you still have to get it even though it doesn’t stop spreading a thing.

    See it’s the lies that do it for me.

  41. You can vaccinate my cold dead flabby white arse.

    (Should be a Liberty Quote.)

  42. mh says:

    Ms Berejiklian said she “can’t wait” to get the vaccine.

    “I’m really looking forward to it, it will just make me feel more confident,…

    It’s the vibe.

  43. Tel says:

    p.s. In 2019 more than 800 influenza-associated deaths had been officially recorded. In 2020-2021 there were 909 Covid-associated deaths in Australia.

    Many times those influenza recordings are based on symptoms (which are generic across many respiratory diseases) not based on highly specific testing. We don’t even know for sure when COVID started in Australia, because we only had tests in March 2020 and even then they were testing only a handful of people. Plenty of other countries found old samples in the fridge and tested them to discover there had been COVID in late 2019. If anyone can find week-by-week data for Australia that would be helpful because the initial COVID start was out of season for Australia and if and spike of respiratory disease shows up in Nov 2019 or Dec 2019 might be a hint this was not the flu.

    It gets worse in places like New York where they stuck all patients showing up with respiratory symptoms into big hospital wards along with COVID patients. Pretty soon there are coronavirus particles blowing around everywhere (mix of live virus plus testable fragments) and every positive test becomes a “case” … hey presto they are all COVID cases. Take note the hospital gets approx $10k from the CARES act for a positive COVID test and $0k for a positive influenza test.

    That said, overall death rates in New York city did shoot right up in April 2020 and that could not have been fake … meaning some big event did happen. That was happening as they were pulling OUT of the normal flu season, and the rise in death rate was exceptionally sharp. No comparable event happened in Australia … leading to the unavoidable conclusion that something special happened in New York.

  44. mh says:

    Doesn’t make you immune, doesn’t make you not carry covid and spread it, does allow your body to fight it a bit better.

    Sounds like hydroxychloroquine.

  45. twostix says:

    Just as a reminder we had a minor compared to where we are now, but at the time similar major hysteria about the wonder drug Tamiflu during 2009 Swine Flu.

    Governments had to buy millions of doses of Tamiflu or else mass-doom and death from Swine Flue was imminent!

    The UK, Australia and the US bought millions and millions of doses of it for our “pandemic stockpiles”. The UK alone spent 400 million pounds on it.

    Five years later…

    Today we found out that Tamiflu doesn’t work so well after all. Roche, the drug company behind it, withheld vital information on its clinical trials for half a decade, but the Cochrane Collaboration, a global not-for-profit organisation of 14,000 academics, finally obtained all the information. Putting the evidence together, it has found that Tamiflu has little or no impact on complications of flu infection

    Or as another study put it: as effective as “chicken soup.”

  46. twostix says:

    They ran exactly the same line then, you know.

    Governments had to buy mountains and mountains of Tamiflu – chicken soup in a pill – so as to prevent the healthcare system becoming ‘overwhelmed’ by Swine Flu.

    When you see what Roche pulled to avoid showing their clinical trial data, and you also see how much money is involved in this stuff, anyone who thinks that there is nothing to be concerned about when the same governments who fell for Tamiflu are now a beesdick away from mandating the use of these companies products to everyone is a total dumbshit.

  47. Albatross says:

    Mick and Lizzie, get on here and defend your precious vaccine.

  48. kraka says:

    Thanks Calli

  49. How come no one has asked Delta if that was her foot they found?
    Delta, did you lose a shoe recently?
    Like after a visit to a hospital?

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