In the latest story of sexual misconduct related to Parliament, Labor’s Penny Wong says that she met a woman (now deceased) who claims that a Coalition minister raped her in 1988 before he was elected to Parliament. Wong said
The complainant made an allegation that she had been raped many years earlier by a person who is now a senior member of the federal government. I said that making a report to the appropriate authorities was the right thing to do. I facilitated her referral to rape support services and confirmed she was being supported in reporting the matter to NSW Police.
The death of the woman who made this allegation is a tragedy, and devastating for everyone who knew and loved her.
The woman, and her family and friends, have been in my thoughts throughout.
I issue this statement in the interests of transparency, and in the hope that appropriate action is taken to examine her allegation, the circumstances of her death and what can and should be done to help keep people safe and save lives in the future.
While Wong may be genuinely concerned about the welfare of the deceased, one cannot help but see this as a political stunt since Wong never revealed that she met the woman who accused Bill Shorten of rape, also in the 1980s. In 2014 the Victorian Police stated
Victoria Police can confirm that a report of an alleged historical sexual assault has been investigated by police. Investigating police sought advice from the Office of Public Prosecutions, which advised there was no reasonable prospect of conviction. All parties have been notified that Victoria Police will not be proceeding with criminal charges.
But this is what that woman, who is still alive and has not retracted the claim, said:
In 1985 I joined the ALP. In 86 at the age of 16 I … became a delegate for state and national conferences. In 86 I went to a Young Labor camp down near Geelong … I was alone … at about 4am there was a knock at my door. It was him at the door. He [Bill Shorten] pushed me into a bathroom, up against a towel rail, pulled down my pants and raped me.
So, Penny Wong, don’t you think you should meet with this woman and discuss her allegations against Bill Shorten? After all, while there is no possibility of a successful prosecution of Bill Shorten due to the alleged rape being committed long ago and the lack of physical evidence, the same applies to the Coalition Minister.
Or is Wong one of those females who will go after Coalition men who commit such crimes, but will turn a blind eye to any Labor men doing the same?
Ask your mate Malcolm, Lucy.
Got no time or respect for Wong, she’s as bad as Faulkner was. Hyperpartisan shriller. There’s absolutely no way she will go anywhere near Kathy.
“Or is Wong one of those MANY females who will go after Coalition men who commit such crimes, but will turn a blind eye to any Labor men doing the same?”
Let’s not forget that the ABC named and ran several featured ‘reports’ on George Pell being a rapist – and encouraged Louise Milligan to write a book on the subject. But when Shorten was being investigated the network placed a ban on naming him – even though he was the alternative prime minister.
As I wrote here earlier today, these people don’t care about rape. They’re sociopaths.
They see Morrison as a Trumpian party-pooper who must be removed from office by any means necessary.
Let’s not forget that the ABC named and ran several featured ‘reports’ on George Pell being a r=pist – and encouraged Louise Milligan to write a book on the subject. But when Shorten was being investigated the network placed a ban on naming him – even though he was the alternative prime minister.
As I wrote here earlier today, these people don’t care about rape. They’re sociopaths.
They see Morrison as a Trumpian party-pooper who must be removed from office by any means necessary.
Read Michael Smith News for more info.
Good down to earth investigative reporting.
It’s different when they do it. On another note I now understand why women of the left are always talking about sexual assault. Because it’s hidden and they have to conceal what happens for the good of the side they assume that the same applys for every other woman in every other party and industry. The predatory types know this and gravitate to where they will be protected. As a aside, one of the most dangerous persons for a female would have to be the male feminist.
The Wongbot following in the high heels of Milligan?
Colour me pink!
We’ll say nothing about the arrogance and abusiveness of preventing newborns from having a father. Wong pongs of sanctimony like nobody else in the Parliament.
We need a special word for those who wear a particular skin to lure their prey into close proximity before stunning and then devouring it. (Repeating the process with a different skin and different prey once they have fully digested the previous victim and their needs require satiating again).
This pattern of behaviour is predatorial.
If it weren’t for double standards, what would the ALP use for standards?
now this story makes some sort of sense
“Labor’s Penny Wong says that she met a woman (now deceased) who claims that a Coalition minister raped her in 1988 before he was elected to Parliament”
Not surprised….the stench was clear last night when I first heard this news…it’s pure Alinsky. So Wong….one of the filthiest and most despicable creatures in parliament is up to her neck in this lurid allegation. If the Liberals don’t fight back then they don’t deserve to be in power. I think it is high time that the Liberals threw back some muck…and let’s start with the allegation against Shorten….either Labor and Wong believe all women or they don’t….and of course we already know they don’t because it only about the politics.
Cassie I agree and target Wong personally with that line of questioning. Gloves are well and truly off in an early election year and this is the tack that is obviously going to be used…
We are watching a fight between 2 factions.
One is using knuckledusters, knives and any other means necessary to win.
The other is using feather pillows and polite words and is worried about how the first side views them.
The second side is wondering why they keep losing.
“Turtle says:
February 27, 2021 at 8:44 pm
Ask your mate Malcolm, Lucy.”
Oh yes…..Malturd is up to his neck in this as well.
1. Seize the initiative. By always reacting to the first-move tactics of your opponent, you confine your options to the rules that have already been set by them, in their favour.
2. Refer to 1.
3. Refer to 1.
It’s not that. Shame or hypocrisy over being inconsistent doesn’t work on communists because the only principle they care about is power. They are willing to lie and cheat in service of that.
Shame works on 5th column cuckservatives though who are happy to betray their fellow travelers to uphold a principle (losing honorably rather than winning at any cost). Hence the comment about feather pillows and nice words.
Wong a female? That would be news to a lot of people.
I think ScoMo and his gutless wonders will choose to forfeit.
OK. so the left always plays dirty, with the MSM supporting them to the hilt, and every Cat knows that the Cuckservatives haven’t got a clue how to fight back…
Meanwhile the Cuckservatives have won every federal election bar one since 1993, and these super-observant Cats do not know why?
The Oz electorate must be too stupid to see the fakery of the left; the fake sanctimony and concern, but yet still manage to vote for the LNP, eh what?
Any stuck-up haters of the common people (most Cats?) care to posit a suggestion as to how this “cuckservatives are losers” gels with the the almost 30 years of winning by these same “dills”?
Excellent point.
I’m a common person.
Wong is aiding the coverup of the crimes against Brittany Higgins, so, if anything, she’s helping the Government.
Watch The Project interview with Brittany, while she was semi conscious and partially undressed on the floor of Reynolds office, Parliamentary Police were conducting an Internal Review on how they should manage the matter.
Spine chillingly creepy, yet Wong wants to use the megaphone to drone on about something that has no bearing on Government even if it’s true.
The Shorten allegation is in the same category: So what, even if it is true, how does that affect what sort of P.M. he might have been?
***The second side is wondering why they keep losing.***
Starting in 1996, that second side has won 7 elections, drawn one and lost one.
Part of that was not getting down in the gutter with the idiots who have only won one election in 25 years.
Wong made the statement for the sake of transparency?
If it was investigated and found to lack merit then she is clearing nothing.
If it is currently being investigated then shouting it out does not advance the investigation and likely muddles things.
If she considers the investigation is not being pursued adequately there are avenues by which she can take this up with relevant people and authorities.
She loosed the claim to the public. What does this do? Well there is nothing useful the people can do. Oh, they can be outraged or restrained, but they have incomplete knowledge (only what that Wong chap said). But Wong doesn’t really care what the people think – she is a Labor senator.
Ah, but the MSM. They can mobilise their presses and cameras to wage a campaign against the government – doing Labor’s dirty work. And the timing with Brittany Higgins case can hardly be incidental, but instead to lend a weight to the claim that has no merit – the one claim does not reinforce the other.
The transparency of Wong’s statement is only to be found in its underhanded purpose.
“Or is Wong one of those females who will go after …”
So, she is Ms. Wong today, Mr Wong tomorrow.
Got it.
Anyone else seeing this whole imbroglio as achieving two ends? Sure, it embarrasses the Libs and the fallout will damage their chances at the next election.
It also brings the Sherriff accusation front and centre, thus eliminating Shorten from any possibility of having a re-run. Who exactly will take the box seat in challenging the useless Albanese will make everything crystal clear.
I wouldn’t put it past Plibersek and Turnbull to be working on this crap together.
I mean, dead accusers who won’t press charges off their statements & another accuser who scripts the whole thing and refuses herself to press charges a second time?
I don’t think Albo has the brain to do this either. Plus his enemies in the ALP can knife him as well. Half a dim sum and all that.
What role did Wong play in the deceased taking her own life?
When exactly and how many times did they speak, is the Senator a trained counsellor? Does the Senator feel any guilt? Turnaround is fair play.
I think you’re spot on Calli. Consistent with Plibbers random “I don’t respect ScoMo” comment recently as well. Even the Holgate stuff.
***Anyone else seeing this whole imbroglio as achieving two ends? Sure, it embarrasses the Libs and the fallout will damage their chances at the next election.***
It memoryholes the Brittany Higgins issue that still could bring the Government down, and Wong getting down in the gutter just makes Albo look weak and slimy.
Albo had clear air for a couple days with the Higgins allegations, Brittany’s interview with Lisa Wilkinson was riveting, but he was either too weak or not allowed to pursue it.
The dead woman allegation is a NothingBurger, it might get Labor voters hot and sweaty, but who else gives a fuck?
Calli (7.43am). Your point only works if the electorate is as stupid as you and Labor think they are….
My observation is that the average voter sees this BS as nonsense; Wong a freak; KK a skank, and the various aggrieved accusers neurotic losers.
Sure the rusted on leftists will feign some outrage but who cares about them?
“Dot says:
February 28, 2021 at 7:51 am
I wouldn’t put it past Plibersek and Turnbull to be working on this crap together.”
Turdbull is definitely involved…….the diseased woman sent a letter to him in 2019.
Lol! Good one.
“My observation is that the average voter sees this BS as nonsense; Wong a freak; KK a skank, and the various aggrieved accusers neurotic losers.
Sure the rusted on leftists will feign some outrage but who cares about them?”
That’s what I think too however I think we’ve reached a rubicon where it’s time that the Liberals started to throw some muck back.
Why?
They’ve won 7 of the last 9 Elections by not getting down in the gutter with Labor, why would they want to start now?
To put it more succinctly: Never go Full Retard.
“Albatross says:
February 28, 2021 at 8:25 am
While Wong may be genuinely concerned about the welfare of the deceased
Lol! Good one”
Exactly…..Wong and co couldn’t give a shit about the woman…she was (and is, despite being dead) a useful political football for grubs like Wong.
You’d have to be pretty retarded to believe what Wong says.
Or an indefatigable femme bot like Cathy King.
Wong reckoned 2 metres of sea level rise due to AGW.
Anyone following a forecast 200 years into the future is scary smart like Michael Burry or a gullible tard.
***Or is Wong one of those females who will go after Coalition men who commit such crimes, but will turn a blind eye to any Labor men doing the same?***
Highly likely, but that’s not the point.
Labor would like nothing better than the Liberal Party joining them in their natural habitat of the Sewage Ponds.
The closest they’ve ever been is when Tony Abbott blackwashed his colleagues in Parliament by stating that the Government would not be seeking to take political advantage of certain [Kathy Sheriff] allegations.
At the time the Kathy Sheriff story was only being covered by Larry Pickering, a Labor ratbag, and Michael Smith, a guy with strong Labor ties.
+1
After Scumoron’s handling of ‘Rona and the Humchback, Labya know he’s p1ss weak.
Ed Case might have had his stopped watch moment today up above.
Plibbers of the Labya pardee skewering p1ssweak Scumoron.
Mx Wong-Gender leading the attack.
Probably more about making sure the leadership ambitions of the SLF are dead.
Michael Smith with strong Labor ties is a very misleading statement . I bet there would be some men who have partners , work mates , friends who do not follow the same political party as they do . I have followed Michael smith news from the time he exposed Craig Thompson , lost his job through Gillard, and of course Kathy Sheriff who he has supported and helped expose her rape.
There is a saying about men , brains , and another bit of anatomy that is true for many men . I can name many in positions of power, influence who have blotted their copybook ,unfortunately when women start ask for the equality with men the same rules do not apply to them eg current poor behaviour of some women who put themselves in vulnerable positions.
Ed Case says: February 28, 2021 at 8:36 am
Why? They’ve won 7 of the last 9 Elections by not getting down in the gutter with Labor, why would they want to start now?
And move inexorably left. LNP may have won but we’ve lost.
The Shorten allegation is in the same category: So what, even if it is true, how does that affect what sort of P.M. he might have been?
A matter like this goes to character.
It would also open up the accused to the possibility of blackmail, either for financial or political gains, or indeed both.
You’ll note I’m speaking generally, as Shorten has denied the allegation.
Bad Samaritan at 5:29 am
“Conservatives (sic) won every election since 93″
& Mitch M. at 5:35 am
Conservatives in name only.
It depends if you think Malcolm Turnbull’s opinion that the Liberals are doomed if they do not occupy what the voting public consider the ‘centre’. If the Liberal party can win more votes from disaffected Labor voters than lose from a dwindling conservative base. It’s a close run thing, who would have thought Barnaby Joyce saved us from a Shorten kleptocracy by only a couple of seats in 2016.
I actually think it’s all over, the Democrat’s version of the US is complicit with the EU’s ‘Davos Reset’, they’ve already sold us out to the CCP.
“Ed Case might have had his stopped watch moment today up above.”
I think Ed deserves a bit more love than he gets, myself.
***A matter like this goes to character.***
Let’s say, for argument’s sake, that Bill Shorten is a bad character.
So what?
Who ever expected politicians to be saintly?
It doesn’t go with the territory.
What would you prefer, a rogue who did a reasonable job, let’s say Mal Turnbull or an ex Seminarian who was an absolute disaster.
Will you see yourself out?
Look at the big picture. This is all about making sexism a big issue for the Labour Party and leftist interest groups. They need to run with divisive issues and also to portray themselves on the side of the “moral” fight against white male supremacy. And possibly pave the way for another female leader. Unfortunately Billy Shorten has some baggage but they think the media has buried it sufficiently. The more this latest stuff runs in the media the happy they will be because it fits with the lefty talking point. There will be a whole strategy behind this to role out in advance of next election.
***It would also open up the accused to the possibility of blackmail, either for financial or political gains, or indeed both.***
That’s politics.
Even if some bloke did break the law as a 20 year old and got away with it, that doesn’t mean he’ll be stupid enough to break it as a Cabinet Minister.
*** This is all about making sexism a big issue for the Labour Party and leftist interest groups. ***
The voters will either buy it or reject it.
The Brittany Higgins coverup wasn’t a great way to keep the Karen demographic in the Liberal tent though.
*** Unfortunately Billy Shorten has some baggage but they think the media has buried it sufficiently. ***
Labor voters don’t care about Bill’s baggage, take it from me, they’re in complete denial,
and swinging voters only care about the Economy as it relates to them.
So, explain to me:
What’s in it for the Liberal Party to bring to attention any baggage Bill might be carrying that dates from before his time in Politics?
PB says at 10:22 am:
As H B Bear offers at 10:50 am – you can Pearce off Jack, along with your lying, grubby, useless slug of a drongo mate Grigory, who makes it clear that he hates Catholics.
The questionis is agay man fromOklahoma an Oklahomo ?
H.B, which exit is the one you use when you don’t feel the love (which seems to happen a bit)?
That one also gets to me, CL. All children have a right to a mother and a father wherever that is possible, and deliberately organising a social system to deny that right is something that pains me. However, that is a battle to have later as these children grow up and seek their biological origins.
The issue now is Kathy Sheriff. I have always felt that she was only sixteen, have been in a similar situation myself at that age, which I fought off tooth and nail, and that something very predatory went on with regard to the person she accused. She seems to have been denied a hearing altogether. As Cassie says, in the current climate, and only if old claims are to be fought over, and given the passage of time I am not at all sure that they should, then Shorten’s accuser certainly should be in the picture and the Libs should raise that issue.
lol, just remembered, a more correct description would be ‘fought off tooth and knee’.
Bad Samaritan says:
February 28, 2021 at 5:29 am
… the the almost 30 years of winning by these same “dills”?
Winning is feeling the bones of your enemies crunch beneath your feet.
Enjoy the apathygasm (see the Catictionary).
Very feasible, Calli. Chess pieces on the move then for Plibersek.
I really do distrust that woman. Her maternal come-over-all-nice schtick hides a very determined and aggressive streak of leftist Marxism. That smile could slit throats.
Oh great, as Lucius says, this is a good time for Penny Wrong & Pound Foolish to interview the sheila who has made accusations against Tit’s Shorten. While she’s focused on the Tits accusation, she should also interview those people who can offer corroboration to the story from the time. That is those she told and who maintain she made those claims at the time.
***I am not at all sure that they should, then Shorten’s accuser certainly should be in the picture and the Libs should raise that issue.***
Why should the Libs raise that issue?
It’s muck, and they get justly accused of muckraking, plus what interest is it of the Libs which lying idiot gets to lead the Labor Party?
Why should the Libs raise that issue?
It’s muck, and they get justly accused of muckraking, plus what interest is it of the Libs which lying idiot gets to lead the Labor Party?
Shirley, the Cathy Sheriff issue comes under the, currently vogue, ALL WOMEN MUST BE BELIEVED banner so if you pursue the Wong Chap/Tansy claim on from the Miss Higgins + allegations then ALL should be investigated .. equally ..!
I wonder when the coroner’s report is due to be finalised that is investigating the death of the woman who alleged rape by a current minister. Both Turnbull and Wong have provided evidence to the coroner. There may be others, and it may provide an independent assessment of the mental health of the woman and factors that may have contributed to her taking her life.
If I was Morrison I would wait for this report before taking any action. He could claim that independent investigations are already taking place, and to set up any additional inquiry could conflict with this.
I can see that the Libs should stay away from the Shorten matter. But they can’t let the allegation against the Cabinet guy fester on while the police in both NSW and SA investigate, a process that could take months.
One option is for the target to make a strong denial and assert that he will not resign until he sees what both police inquires come up with. Of course Labor will ( as Albanese did this morning) attack Morrison, and this is perhaps where Shorten’s staying on might be invoked.
Oh really, like why? And please don’t repeat your frequent defamation shtick.
Bring out yer Dead!
I suppose if the dead can “vote”, they can “testify”.
We indeed live in “interesting times”.
“I can see that the Libs should stay away from the Shorten matter.”
Why? Sorry disagree…and if they don’t want to get down and dirty because most Liberals are spineless…all Morrison and the Liberals should do is stand in front of the cameras and remind everyone that Shorten didn’t step aside whilst a police investigation occurred in 2014 into his waaape allegation…he remained Labor leader for the whole time and the MSM should do what the Liberals and the MSM did in 2014…they didn’t use it as a political football.
Just ducking in before lunch to post this info I found re the Pied Currawong, because I was wondering how our twelve or more who visit are going to fare in the winter. Seems they will probably be OK. They live for up to 20 years. That was a surprise.
In a severe lockdown Currawong pie might make a comeback. 🙂
oops, wrong thread.
These posts are pointless.
True, sadly.
Jeremy Hans, who is always worth reading even if you don’t agree with him and is prepared to stand up to groupthink, has offered a defence of Linda Reynolds. In not taking the matter to the police or up the line in cabinet, Reynolds was only doing what Higgins asked. (Higgins has subsequently turned on Reynolds and knifed her in the back, but that’s another story.)
Gans argues that there is a point of principle at stake here and that the AFP commissioner is overreaching. Mandatory reporting applies only to a small range of named offences such as child abuse. What Kershaw is proposing (and Morrison seems to be endorsing) is a requirement to go to the police in all other cases (e.g. fraud, theft) whether the alleged victim wants you to or not. That, Gans suggests, could be gross infringement of the rights and privacy of the alleged victim. Do we want to give victims no agency or choice at all?
Meanwhile, Governor Cuomo has been MeTooed again
https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-28/ny-governor-andrew-cuomo-accused-2nd-aide-of-sexual-harassment/13200998
I’m sure this wasn’t in the Left’s script!
The point is to distract from the current spate of LNP scandals with pissweak fallacies in the hope that the media moves on. It’s a time-honoured practice, and it often works. If it doesn’t this time… good.
An orchestrated and very clever smear
People will wonder who?
Sympathy with the woman who suicided?
Trauma proven by her action?
How to defend in these circumstances?
Is the public’s bullshit detector still in working order?
Some mud will stick
It is very obliging of Wong though.
When the Brittany had her claims published and people said we should also look then at Tits’ case, the retort was that Brittany’s was current while Shorten’s was back in the 80’s.
And then that Wong chap sticks his head up and said we should look into accusations of rope from the 80’s.
Thanks, Pen!
Some incidental thing else revealed in the Tits’ rope claim is that the ALP was signing members up at 15, three years before they could even vote, then giving them delegate roles when they are all of 16. People that young and green?
Or maybe she had been singled out for ‘mentorship’ and attention from men who had taken a shine to her even if she was too naive to fully realise what was going on.
And this shows why. The left are shameless hypocrites. It’s like water off a duck’s back.
That Wong fellows a most disagreeable chap . Wouldn’t leave the wife alone with him , that’s for sure … !
It all depends on who the alleged is, and I don’t know who the person is.
But while you’re right that the electorate are not as interested in the Canberra bubble stuff, the parliamentary SFLs party is just as bad as the Liars if the subject is from the right wing of the party. When wanting to pull down and destroy conservatives, there are many there who would put their hands up.
The behaviour of people like Pyne, Julie Bishop, Fletcher, Birmingham and the Photios group have shown how far they’ll go to get rid of their enemies inside the party. Gee, Pyne was accused of working behind the scenes with GetUp! to target certain conservatives in S.A.
I just turned the TV on to the ABC and, low and behold, there was Turnbull seemingly discussing the subject, though where I am at the moment, the signal kept breaking up so I couldn’t get very much of it.
So while the electors may think they’re voting for the SFLs, which are a better choice than the Liars, we’ve been moving for quite some time toward a uni-party whose members are more interested in personal value-adding. Are the SFLs, Liberal with a capital “L” anymore, and to the extent that the electorate presume they are? It seems to be that there are too many from both sides working together to bring down their enemies so they may enrich themselves in power and influence.
JC
I tried to distinguish two kinds of response. One: the Libs should not suggest that the rape claim against Shorten be re-investigated. To do so would look like they were arguing “you too” to avoid the problem. Moreover, they should hope to get a favourable from the at least the NSW cops. Two: they might point to Shorten’s staying on to make the point that allegations need not lead to standing aside.
***Of course Labor will ( as Albanese did this morning) attack Morrison, and this is perhaps where Shorten’s staying on might be invoked.***
Comparing one of their own to Bill Shorten?
What would be the point?
***Jeremy Hans, … has offered a defence of Linda Reynolds. In not taking the matter to the police or up the line in cabinet, Reynolds was only doing what Higgins asked.***
Reynolds was quite upset since the Rapper was her favorite, according to Brittany Reynolds couldn’t stand being in the same room with her afterwards.
It was made clear to Brittany by fixers in Morrison’s and Reynolds offices that her future employment depended on her going along to get along.
The issue is the coverup.
It’s astounding to me that Labor are bringing up NothingBurgers from a million years ago when the Government is on the ropes over this coverup, Reynolds is Incommunicado and Dutton claims to be in the dark until February 5 this year, though the AFP in Parliament House were obliged to inform the Home Affairs Minister the day it happened, March 22/23 2019.
Jeremy Gans is Professor of Law , University of Melbourne and his statement about mandatory reporting is correct as professionally that law was relevant for me. Many on this thread are commenting on what has been reported and the little that has been stated by the victim . I doubt anyone has read an affidavit in relation to the allegations . This also pertains to the case of the person who suicided. Therefore all are interpretations of events .
Kathy Sherriff is some what different as documentation is available on Michael Smith who by the way was a member of the Victorian police . .
Re BH she told Reynolds her story but what was her reason for not wanting to report it to police , she was legless by her own admission and also was with a colleague she did not know well . This was the reason she gave for organising the party so she said . Her behaviour, excluding the alleged rape, was enough to put a cloud over her future prospects as it showed immaturity , poor choices, lack of trustworthiness.
Brittany Higgins did a 20 minute interview with Lisa Wilkinson on the Project, I posted it earlier. There’s been a Government coverup.
Mandatory Reporting is a red herring, the coverup is the story.
The cops declined to lay charges over Kathy Sheriff, the Liberals won’t touch the issue, and the Public aren’t interested either.
In your opinion Ed , however not sure how many rape victims you have had dealings with but unless they wanted to report it not allowed.
Saw this on Reddit.some ministers were too young and many were too old (to hang out with a 16 year old.) I think they’re trying to smear Porter (or everyone) with an unprovable allegation. One of the details made public was that the “victim” was sectioned in a mental unit. A less reliable witness than Chrîstine Blasey Ford! JUstice delayed is justice denied and bottling something up for 30 years won’t help anyone. It won’t keep society safe from a predator. It won’t reform him (although as all these men are high achievers , I doubt that was her aim) . This just leaves revenge and punishment and certainly disproportionate – not an eye for an eye. Scomo just can’t touch this – she made her decision.
Morrison needs to say that he will not stand a Minister aside merely because an allegation of misconduct had been made. Otherwise the processes of government become unworkable. The question of standing aside might arise in the course of an investigation. If challenged by opponents, he might point to the Shorten example.
Morrison doesn’t need to say anything.
It’s Wong’s issue, let her argue it out in public.
***Saw this on Reddit.some ministers were too young and many were too old (to hang out with a 16 year old.) I think they’re trying to smear Porter ***
I thought a NSW Liberal Cabinet Minister was accused.
NSW Liberal Cabinet Ministers are:
1.Scotty [b. 1968]
2.Marise Payne
34 Sussan Ley
4.Angus Taylor [b. 1966]
5 Paul Fletcher [b.1966]
Latest from the ABC:
https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-28/more-federal-mps-aware-rape-allegation-before-revealed-to-public/13201522
Note how the allegations about an unnamed Labor MP are buried deep in the article and missing from the headline. Note also how, having campaigned against Celia Hammond in her preselection and at the election, they have now crafted the opening of the story so as to slime her in the eyes of a careless reader.
Some very interesting insights into the ABC’s role in this on Sharri Markson’s show tonight – doubtless there will be a detailed and completely impartial investigation by Media Watch………
The Libs need to let the ALP know that they will air allegations of their own if Labor don’t cut it out — because you know that the ALP have their own skeletons in the closet. Everything they accuse their opponents of they are doing themselves.
Refer any complaints to the AFP and let that be the end of the discussion until charges are laid. This business of smearing people without due process is completely wrong.
The ABC assaults family and complainant because hate comes first:
Incredibly gutless response from Albanese, why doesn’t he name the Minister if it’s such a big deal?
He was the overwhelming Labor rank and file choice for Leader, an indication of how stupid these people are.
The whole thing seems bipartisan.
We’ve got a Rapper allegation at Parly House less than 2 years ago, 2 others have came forward with similar experiences with the same Senior Adviser, there’s likely to be others, a Cabinet Minister tells the Senate she doesn’t know how to answer a question regarding her responses to that event, then admits herself to hospital, and the best Labor can do is to segue to something unproveable from the 1980s.
Sarah Henderson copies that, the public switches off and the News Cycle moves on.
So Turnbull, Wong and the Labor MP from South Australia all had contact with the woman as early as 2019, and I’ve yet to see any evidence that any of these people contacted Morrison about the issue, let alone suggest he stand the accused minister down.
Albo suggesting Morrison stand the minister down is just crazy talk. It would preempt the police inquiries and set a really dangerous precedent where anyone could make an untested allegation to get a minister stood down.
“Albo suggesting Morrison stand the minister down is just crazy talk. It would preempt the police inquiries and set a really dangerous precedent where anyone could make an untested allegation to get a minister stood down.”
Albosleaze’s insistence that Morrison stand down the minister was on Insiders yesterday morning. In the same interview, when asked by Speers about what he would do, he insisted that was a hypothetical. Albosleaze spoke too soon, given last night’s letter to the AFP from Senator Henderson. If Morrison stands down the minister then Albo also needs to stand down you know who.
What has been noted and deserves emphasis is that the AFP has no investigative role to play where the alleged offence is said to take place in a State. Also noted is that the AFP policy overrides existing policies on mandatory reporting of sexual offence episodes.
There is panic all round here.
This episode is starting to look like the Section 44 kerfuffle not so long ago. An attempt to gain political advantage is starting to blow back on its originators. Section 44 eventually was banned from “polite” discourse, this will probably meet the same fate.
Crossie:
They will vote for the enemy because the good guys are not quite good enough.
Virtue signalling traitors like Pence. “I voted for the scumbags because I’m not quite saintly enough and more people should be aware of it.”
Hmm. It seems made up.
If you were assaulted in NSW in 1988 and were living in SA, why in 2019 would you contact Mick Trumble? It is truly bizarre.
There is literally no reason for this to have happened at all.
WTF is this other than a very poorly planned and high strangeness gotcha that has fallen flat?
I have the feeling this woman was writing letters to people in high places for a long time. Probably something about free energy and reptoids.
So I wonder who was the smart person who wrote the anonymous letter to Morrison, Wong and Hanson-Young? Maybe the Shy-knees? Very effective; the Adelaide compound must be completed and fully operational then.
Dogs return to their own vomit, the scorpion will always sting the Fox.
“It’s in their nature”.
Why are the ABC, Guardian and SBS seemingly leading the charge on this. Massive double standard. The media at Christian Porters statement yesterday was the worst kind of a vulture feeding frenzy I have seen. Surely we are better than this!!!!