Lightweight posers of no substance

What an irony in finding an op-ed in The Australian on trial by media when it is The Australian that is the main media judge-jury-executioner in dealing with these unprovable allegations, especially those against the Attorney-General. Why The Oz would let this article pass into print was clear as you could wish as soon as you read the opening paras:

Grace Tame is right. The nation does seem to be on the verge of some sort of revolution. But it’s not the sort of benign change envisaged by the Australian of the year when she addressed the National Press Club on Wednesday.

The outrageous treatment of Attorney-General Christian Porter suggests we could be entering a new dark age that erodes public trust in the media and the institutions that govern society.

When this happened in America, it created the opening that gave rise to Donald Trump. That is what the lynch mob in Canberra is toying with by seeking to bypass the rule of law in their scramble to destroy Porter.

What any of this has to do with Donald Trump is well  beyond me (and that great authority on the rule of law, Grace Tame, as well for that matter). But at least we can all stand together in being against rape.

As for other matters, such as the philosophical questions related to rule of law, they are quite confusing and require quite a bit of thought and background knowledge. As also noted here, for example: Rape stalemate threat to Scott Morrison’s agenda. On matters such as the government’s agenda, it is very hard to find a consensus, even though many of these issues are crucial to our collective wellbeing. As here:

Scott Morrison’s industrial relations bill faces months of delay as key crossbenchers call for a planned March vote on the reforms to be shelved in the wake of rape claims against Christian Porter, and backed an independent ­inquiry into the allegations.

South Australian senator Rex Patrick said on Friday he supported an independent investigation into the allegations against Mr Porter and called for him to stand aside while the probe occurred….

Jacqui Lambie also backed a probe into the claims against Mr Porter and said the government should drop its plans for the Senate to vote on the bill in the sitting week starting March 15.

What a bunch of clowns we seem to have elected. Lightweight posers of no substance.

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52 Responses to Lightweight posers of no substance

  1. BrettW says:

    I hope this does not mean Lambie and Patrick are going to support legislation based on whether there is an inquiry into Porter. Truly pathetic.
    There is no precedent for such an inquiry.

  2. Jannie says:

    Investigate Christian Porter, right out of the Soviet Union terror.

    Lavrenty Beria, ruthless secret police chief in Joseph Stalin’s reign of terror bragged that he could prove criminal conduct on anyone, even the innocent.

    “Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime” was his infamous boast.

  3. egg_ says:

    Tame herself doesn’t appear to be playing with a full deck.

  4. Taylor says:

    We are indeed very likely headed for a new Dark Age, as Brian Barry said 30 years ago.

    And the decline is being led by gormless, cowardly, bureaucrats in charge of professional services firms in the main, who never took a course on western civilisation.

  5. Tom says:

    The Australian long ago ceased to by a journal of record digging out stories the public needs to know. It is now a retailer of talking points, leaving the hard stuff to others.

    After its founding in 1964, its first batch of editors – including the late Max Newton (for whom I briefly worked in the 1970s when he owned the Melbourne Sunday Observer) and the late Adrian Deamer – were journalistic idealists who commissioned the paper’s best writers to break big stories, because that’s what you needed to do to chisel out a place in the media market.

    The paper’s idea of a big story this week is “he said-she said” Canberra gossip in which the only “reporting” is the transcription of a series of press conferences, followed by thousands of words of opinion by chook-fed journalists and political insiders with axes to grind.

    Newton and Deamer would be turning in their graves.

  6. Ed Case says:

    ***“Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime” was his infamous boast.***
    Stalin recalled General Rokossovsky from the gulag when he ran v. short on men with guts and ability in 1941.
    On meeting the General, Stalin noticed that he had no fingernails [and some say no teeth].
    “Interrogation?”, inquired Stalin.

  7. Ed Case says:

    ***And the decline is being led by gormless, cowardly, bureaucrats in charge of professional services firms in the main, who never took a course on western civilisation.***
    Poms, & Scots.
    My ancestors left the British Isles to get away from these awful people.
    Since about 1950 they’ve followed us over, doing to Australia what they did to the UK.

  8. Dave of Reedy Creek, Qld says:

    Gave up on the Australian quite a while ago. They suffer acute TDS. I imagine they think fake news is trendy. From what I read of the attack on Porter, smacks of the USA styled attack on Brett Kavanagh. Ancient smears that no one remembers happening because they never did.

  9. Cui Bono says:

    Lambie and Patrick need to keep their profile up to secure re-election. Pity about Patrick. He has a real contribution to make about the submarine debacle. Lambie just a jumped up airhead…thanks Clive.

  10. we could be entering a new dark age that erodes public trust in the media and the institutions that govern society.

    A very telling sentence since it is (a) exactly backwards and (b) implies the media and institutions are heroic and worthy. Typical of the Australian to think this of themselves when the reason Trump was elected was because the media and the institutions have become so blackly corrupt that the voters wanted a Hercules to divert a river through them.

    Unless the credentialed journalism class gets its act together and returns to the balanced approach of the sixties (and I know of that from a friend who was a journalist then) they will become extinct – to be replaced by Trumps, Limbaughs, Reynoldses and Breitbarts.

  11. Bronson says:

    ‘we could be entering a new dark age that erodes public trust in the media and the institutions that govern society’ FMD what do you mean could be? Anybody that believes anything printed by the media or that comes out of the mouth of a politician has got to be naive idiot. After the disgrace of lawyer X and Pell how could you trust the justice system in Victoria? The Australian is always 2 steps behind just in front of their ABC.

  12. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Lambie just a jumped up airhead.

    A very generous description. I call her a bush pig…oh and weren’t there some issues about workplace bullying in her senate office?

  13. 132andBush says:

    BoN,
    Spot on.
    The FMIC led by the State funded ABC have been, if not an outright enemy, at the very least not a friend to the public for years.
    Maybe starting with the coverage of the Vietnam war but definitely wrt the AGW scam and it’s only getting worse.

  14. 132andBush says:

    The latest example of the craven FMIC is of course the COVID panic that they were only too happy to rev up to 100+.

  15. Cui Bono says:

    Yet Stirling Griff shows eminent sense in his support for the rule of law.
    And, however worthy the government’s industrial relations reforms may be, their delay could actually be a good outcome politically. They won’t have to face the inevitable GreenLaborMedia scare campaign.

  16. H B Bear says:

    Cassie at 7.45am – Yep. I am surprised at some of the comments about Lambie previously made here (admitted about the ADF who seem to be about as popular as smokers, the last group no-one is prepared to advocate for. Except Snic sort of.)

  17. H B Bear says:

    Hendo gives Nilligan and the ALPBC a well deserved serve in his Teh Weekend Paywallian column.

    Could Ita be the worst MD for some time? Another Lieboral success.

  18. miltonf says:

    Lambie is trash and that’s being polite.

    As for the Australian, I have better things to do with my time than read its sludge. Back when I bought it over ten years ago, they had an obnoxious little column called ‘capital hill’ which oozed smugness and detachment from the real world. Democracy has been broken by the emergence of a politico-meja class which includes the pubes in Canbra. They are an absolute menace.

  19. miltonf says:

    Buttrose was always part of the problem. Exhibit A- Cleo.

  20. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “miltonf says:
    March 6, 2021 at 8:32 am
    Lambie is trash and that’s being polite.”

    Well said.

  21. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    This writer in the Australian and their writers in general freely assume and declare that some x or y ‘produced’ Trump as though that was a bad thing, when it was the best thing that has happened to America in a long time. President Trump showed how things could be done differently, and done well, without the ‘woke’ yoke. So glad we dumped our subscription last month. These days the Australian, which we have subscribed to for years, and which I have read since its inception, is now simply another big part of the problem.

  22. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Exhibit A- Cleo.

    An then there was the eponymous ‘ITA’, for menopausal doctor’s wives.
    It did not succeed, although the number of women fitting the category has grown.

  23. miltonf says:

    Ha ha forgot about that one.

  24. miltonf says:

    Back in the 80s the Oz had a column by Santamaria which was always worth reading.

  25. Ed Case says:

    No witness ever came forward to support the claim that Kavanaugh and Blasey Ford
    had ever met, but Trump still wouldn’t make a single statement in support of his nomination during confirmation hearings.
    That Porter and the woman knew each other over a period of at least a couple years is undisputed.
    Both Kavanaugh and Porter were rattled, though.
    Bringing up the Shorten allegation was weak as.
    The guy has a massive sense of entitlement and he was setting the Government up for a WorkChoices Mk 2 with this IR Bill.
    Cash reckons she’s going ahead with it, but if her past performance is any guide, it’s dead in the water.

  26. max says:

    Compare Lambie and Pauline.
    One is about extorting all she can out of the Budget for a couple of tiny interest groups. Has nowt to say about any larger issues.
    The other can see the cultural and national decay in progress.
    Both lack the polish and waffle needed to get anywhere.

  27. Baa Humbug says:

    Ed Case says:
    March 6, 2021 at 9:33 am

    No witness ever came forward to support the claim that Kavanaugh and Blasey Ford
    had ever met, but Trump still wouldn’t make a single statement in support of his nomination during confirmation hearings.

    So what? Just recently, Biden didn’t make any statements in support of one of his nominations, Neera Tanden. HE WITHDREW HER when confirmation hearings got difficult for her.
    The fact that Trump refused to withdraw Kav under such pressure is a YUGE statement of support.

    Once Senate hearings start, its not common for presidents to keep weighing in. Can you find any historical Cases Ed? (bada boom)

  28. Old School Conservative says:

    I’m a subscriber to The Oz and I’ll keep going.
    Just in today’s edition I have read Chris Kenny’s “Get Porter a media disgrace” in which he tears into 7Nilligan and the ABC; PvO’s “Christian Porter and a chilling, disgraceful denial of basic rights”; Alan Jones continues his attack on Rugby Australia.
    Yes, much in The Oz is leftist but not all.
    My favourite cartoonist is there too.

  29. cuckoo says:

    Yes, The Australian is all over the place on this one, but at least today they published an image of the original note, handwritten by the alleged victim. Something the Age/ABC would never let you see. There’s no point in me describing it, you just have to see it. And any reasonable person who sees it will know that Porter is innocent.

  30. melb says:

    In its early days The Australian did have some nice page 3 pictures. Anyone else remember?

    That’s about all I can say for it.

  31. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    but Trump still wouldn’t make a single statement in support of his nomination during confirmation hearings.

    Golly that’s terrible. Of course I then put ‘Trump supports Kavanagh’ into DDG in curiosity. Oddly this was the very first hit:

    Trump tweets support for Kavanaugh

    The president described Brett Kavanaugh’s testimony as “powerful, honest, and riveting” and called the hearing process a “total sham.”

    Several other similar reports as you go down the list. Weird. They must’ve been planted by aliens or something.

  32. wal1957 says:

    When this happened in America, it created the opening that gave rise to Donald Trump.

    WTF!
    How does this pass as journalism?
    As Kates stated…what the hell does this have to do with Trump?
    TDS on steroids.

  33. Old School Conservative says:

    At Porter’s press conference two of the female media were front and centre with aggressive questioning (esp the “court of public opinion” question) – have their identities been mentioned anywhere?

  34. Roger says:

    Lightweight posers of no substance.

    Why would anyone of substance go into politics these days?

  35. Roger says:

    What any of this has to do with Donald Trump is well beyond me…

    I think the author is suggesting that when public trust in institutions is eroded and a large section of that society feels they no longer have a stake in it, then the social contract is frayed and the legitimacy of government is in question. That is certainly what we’re seeing in the US & Australia is not immune to such developments if the feminazi’s and their enablers persist in undermining thee rule of law.

  36. candy says:

    Shorten and Porter cannot be convicted without a trial, but one must realise that what they are accused of is not at all an unreal scenario. In fact, it is quite feasible and a lot of women will understand this. Young girls from decades ago did hide and feel ashamed of being sexually abused/raped, believing it was their fault and seek to hide and forget it, but something like a shadow at the back of their mind. That was the times.

    I also have not seen any outrageous treatment of Christian Porter. All in all he has had protection for many months. I see no terrible stories or pictures of his wife and children. None of his colleagues have said anything unkind. All quite civilised (unlike if it were a conservative such as Kelly, Joyce, Abbott – then they would be in jail in the blink of any eye).

    Porter has the protection of PM Morrison and that is very significant.

  37. Cui Bono says:

    Good point OSC. What is the identity of those reporters? It would help us, in the battle, to have this info out and loud, so we ‘media consumers’ can make judgement on their future contribution.
    Also, I’m a little uneasy as to how the ‘accuser’ and her family can be allowed to maintain their anonymity. The latter have now joined the debate. So how fair is that?
    What do others think?

  38. Ed Case says:

    ***Once Senate hearings start, its not common for presidents to keep weighing in. Can you find any historical Cases Ed? (bada boom)
    ***
    Gorsuch and Coney Barrett.
    Trump went out of his way for them.
    Until Democrats rejected Carswell in 1970, everything was sorted beforehand, and nomination meant confirmation.
    You’ll find that either Reagan or Bush came out swinging for Bork.

  39. Cui Bono says:

    Candy – their was a long campaign against Pprter yet not one of these ‘professional journalists’ put the allegations to him. That’s outrageous and obviously took a big toll on him.

  40. Taylor says:

    ***Poms, & Scots.***

    My grandfather sailed from Port Moresby in 1939 to re-enlist. He was back again by 1946.

    It’s Harvard Business School that’s the problem these days. And Yale. And every American university. And every university. Investment banks. Banks in general. The leadership of the law firms, the accounting firms, and the consulting firms.

    No soldier fought for this nihilism, nor would they.

    Geoffrey Vickers won the VC in the first war. At the end of his life he said this (to Adolph Lowe):

    “Loyalty to God, king and country may sound outmoded today, but I cannot conceive of a human society surviving after a sufficiency of its members had ceased to accord their commitment to the three systems which the words connote.”

    The meaning of the words can evolve, but what they represent – the overarching loyalties – can’t be abandoned and society still survive.

  41. Roger says:

    What do others think?

    In this instance, if the family have entered the legal fray they should be identified, particularly as it is a matter of public interest.

    Generally, anonymous accusations, particularly when published online or, even worse, by journalists or politicians, are a form of vigilantism that denies the accused due process at law.

  42. Andre Lewis says:

    All the fems are buying into the witch hunt as we might have expected. including the new Young Australian of the Year. Once you had to do something clever and motivating to get recognition as Australian or Young Australian but now it seems just being woke and/or claiming victimhood is enough. Fortunately of late the choices for the honour have been widely ignored like ‘high heels’ Morrison and “they hate me because I’m black” Goodes so maybe this new one will fade quickly too.

  43. cuckoo says:

    Tame herself doesn’t appear to be playing with a full deck.

    Indeed, Rosie Batty must be p!$$ed that someone younger has taken her spot as Australia’s No.1 Crazy Grievance Lady.

  44. Young Freddy says:

    The media don’t give a rat’s arse about the rule of law, the destruction of legal principle, the rise of an Aussietrump, or any of the many discussion points. The whole point of the exercise for them is to create chaos, foment division … that sells. Add the fact that they’ve hindered the profits of social media and they’re laughing all the way to the bank.

  45. Young Freddy says:

    The media don’t give a rat’s arse about the rule of law, the destruction of legal principle, the rise of an Aussietrump, or any of the many discussion points. The whole point of the exercise for them is to create chaos, foment division … that sells. Add the fact that they’ve hindered the profits of social media and they’re laughing.

  46. Roger says:

    Once you had to do something clever and motivating to get recognition as Australian or Young Australian but now it seems just being woke and/or claiming victimhood is enough.

    The Australian of the Year is now a mere cipher, a vehicle into which the issue du jour of the prog-left can be placed and driven into the hearts and minds of middle Australia.

  47. egg_ says:

    Trial by meeja, as intended by the complainant.

    Karen Middleton on ABC Midday News: Politicians have “a duty of care” to employees.

    They do?

    Pollies and staffers entering the workplace sloshed, afterhours?

    As Desky said, Security would be cowed by the authority of Pollies – an “authority gradient” identified as a causal agent in air crash investigations.

    Quelle surprise.

  48. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Karen Middleton on ABC Midday News: Politicians have “a duty of care” to employees.

    Even where said employee gets so pizzed at a workplace function that she falls flat on her face?

  49. Ed Case says:

    It wasn’t a workplace function it was a Canberra watering hole.
    She was so drunk that she “faceplanted” in her own words.
    She was the hostess, the rest were more or less new workplace acquaintances who had recently come over with Reynolds from her previous Ministry.
    She excused herself, the Senior Adviser offered her a lift home.
    No one intervened, though allegations were later made that this wasn’t the first time he’d engineered this scenario [buying a workplace acquaintance drinks until she was incapable, then offering the lift home].
    Why didn’t Brittany go straight to the cops first thing next morning?
    Could be a number of reasons, but let’s suppose the alleged Rappin was of the alleged Porter Style?
    That would be particularly shaming, no wonder she didn’t want to tell anyone and Brittany only raised the subject when Reynolds was poised to add insult to injury by sacking her.

  50. the sting says:

    There are lots of lying cows out there , particularly at the ABC .

  51. Andre Lewis says:

    There are lots of lying cows out there, particularly at the ABC .

    Actually its all of them at the ABC.

  52. stackja says:

    Australian voters seem to lack the sense that was common in the past.

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