“They would not be a friend, they would be a dog”

Speaking of dogs, the European Union is withholding medical supplies from Australia.

The European Union has banned a large shipment of AstraZeneca Oxford vaccines to Australia in a bitter escalation of “vaccine wars” which will delay Australia’s vaccine rollout.

The shipment of 250,000 doses, meant to leave the Anagni plant near Rome on Thursday, was held up by authorities after the Italians had received approval from Brussels to implement vaccine export laws.

These controversial laws are designed to prioritise Europeans receiving vaccines before any non-EU country.

Now if I were a demagogue I’d say something like, “The EU have long tried to destroy our economy, now they literally want us to die”.  Or “Isn’t withholding medical supplies literally a crime against humanity”. “Certainly, we’re not all in this together”.

But no.

It does seem to me, however, that Australian foreign policy of being a good international citizen, of kowtowing to so-called ‘international law’ and the ‘rules based international order’, in the hope that it would one day benefit us isn’t paying off precisely when it needs to have paid off.

Now the government’s initial response is sensible:

“This 250,000-dose issue is not going to affect the rollout,” Mr Dutton told Today.

“I think the main message is again not that there is a problem here, but that you need to really get in early if you’re in the age group or in the category 1A, 1B, make sure you engage with your doctor and have this safe vaccine.”

The second response is not sensible:

Mr Dutton pointed to domestic production as “good governance” which will “give us assurance around supply”.

As I have long feared, we are going to emerge from Covid in a world of greater autarky.

Rather the government should be looking to expel all EU ambassadors and lodging charges against the EU at the Hague.

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41 Responses to “They would not be a friend, they would be a dog”

  1. rich says:

    The coalition bending over and taking it from the EU? Colour me surprised.

  2. duncanm says:

    Maybe the EU needs to be reminded of the approximately 60,000 servicemen who died in European battles in WW-I, and the 10,000 who perished in WW-II liberating them from Nazi Germany.

    I do like the idea of charges in the Hague.

  3. Bazinga says:

    The EU has a much bigger COVID problem than Australia. This is the right call by Italy.

  4. Arky says:

    As I have long feared, we are going to emerge from Covid in a world of greater autarky.

    ..
    Wow.
    What a way to spin the now obvious fact smacking you between the eyes like a big wet cock that I and others on here have been trying to warn you about for years.
    Globalism is shit and countries need to keep their manufacturing, not go off on a bunch of theoretical bullshit about pure markets that never existed.
    Your world view is crumbling.
    Get with reality.

  5. Roger says:

    As I have long feared, we are going to emerge from Covid in a world of greater autarky.

    You write as though that’s a bad thing.

    Our international “friends” are few and far between; welcome to the new world order.

  6. Roger says:

    Basically our “friends” constitute the Anglosphere, and we have good relations with Japan. We ought to be looking at strengthening those links and building the relationship with India.

  7. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Likely to be revenge for ScoMo and Abbott666 pushing hard for the UK-Australia trade deal amidst Brexit.

    The EU elitist classes have a finely tuned gene for retribution against perceived enemies, and the China persecution has shown them they can insult Australia and get away with it. Especially with Usurper Joe in the WH.

  8. Perfidious Albino says:

    Would be an opportune time for the Brits to offer to replace the 250k doses just to rub the EU’s faces in it.

  9. Speedbox says:

    Perfidious Albino says:
    March 5, 2021 at 11:05 am
    Would be an opportune time for the Brits to offer to replace the 250k doses just to rub the EU’s faces in it.

    Or the Russians with Sputnik 5.

    🙂

  10. mh says:

    the European Union is withholding medical supplies from Australia.

    The term ‘Medical supplies’ could be a stretch.

  11. lotocoti says:

    All part of the EU’s hissy fit over everyone else buying up all the available vaccine production while they were still arguing about the luncheon menu for the preliminary planning conference to select a location for the hosting of a committee to recommend a preferred vaccine producer.

  12. Strayan Drongo says:

    People who are saying they have more risk and should be allowed a higher priority over Australia don’t understand that this is what Europe always does, they don’t invest and expect the world to save them. We invested early in the vaccine without knowing if it would work and the EU just steals it because they are run like shit by authoritarians.

  13. Mother Lode says:

    I wonder if the EU will be able to provide some cover and even muscle if there are disagreements with the subs the French are building.

  14. Andre Lewis says:

    We should be kicking out any EU Ambassadors and closing any offices they have set up in Oz. Only sovereign countries should have consulates and embassies with diplomates having immunity. All the EU countries have their own diplomatic corps so the EU is just a bunch of unelected mandarins in Brussels who should be ignored.

  15. Speedbox says:

    Mother Lode says:
    March 5, 2021 at 11:15 am

    Hey! You owe me a new keyboard. I was drinking a Coke as I was reading and just spat it out. Got some on my shirt as well. Bugger.

    (very funny comment though)

  16. Vicki says:

    The EU has a much bigger COVID problem than Australia. This is the right call by Italy.

    I am inclined to agree. Friends report horrific number of deaths in Italy in recent weeks.

  17. Arky says:

    If it’s made in their country, they control it and there is nothing you can do but ensure you have the ability to make the things you really really need when the shit hits the fan onshore.
    Peace through interdependence is dead.
    So long, fair well. good riddance to a stupid fairy tale that has cost us dearly and will finish us for good if people don’t wake the hell up.

  18. Mustapha Bunn says:

    and some are still wondering why the UK left the EU.

  19. TBH says:

    I’ll bet people in the UK are pretty happy with Brexit at the minute. Their vaccination has plowed ahead very well, while the EU in the usual way fiddles and farts around. What clusterfuck that organisation is.

  20. John Brumble says:

    But Vicki. The disease affects us exactly the same here. Our wonderful, leaders have saved us all from the same death and destruction that would surely, SURELY, have wreaked its havock upon us unintelligent plebs and as part of their plan to ensure that we don’t end up exactly the same as Italy, our governments (Praise Be Upon Them) need these vaccines. After all, there can’t possibly be any demographic or environmental reason for the difference and it must all be because we’ve been locked up appropriately (except to all go to the same supermarkets, because we all know that in supermarkets the airborne virus magically moves with people).

    To deny Australians vaccines is to kill the extra 1.15 million people represented by the difference between the result we have today (which after all is entirely down to our wonderful governments) and the result Italy has today.

    /s

  21. C.L. says:

    Joey Zasa quote from Godfather III appreciated.

  22. Perplexed of Brisbane says:

    Another good reason to cancel the French sub contract and for finally buying Apaches (the Tigers seem to be rubbish). If you find yourself in a situation where they disagree with your actions, then spare parts dry up.

    I think that may be why the Israelis purloined the plans for the Mirage jets and built their own Kfir version. Unreliability of parts when needed, like when you are in a shooting war the French disagree with. Which is just about all of them.

  23. Struth says:

    , make sure you engage with your doctor and have this safe vaccine.”

    They know there is a big resistance to this.
    On various other sites the anti THISVaxxers far outnumber the dumb pricks.

  24. The EU should be kept at arms egnth ,the less we have to do with the unelected globalists the betterv , just look at the way they are trying to annex Norter Ireland to be part of their Ireland Colony . They have wrapped Europe in red tape and fouled up the response to the Chinese virus they are desparately grasping at straws to save themselves from the break up of the Fourth Reich .
    Im surprised they have not allied to paedo biden and the illegal democrim governent they are both steeped in lies and corruption ,birds of a feather .
    Watch the UK becomea powerhouse of industry and trade ,while the Fourth Reich wallows in regulations and red tape . The UK is our future major partner with Caada Asia then the USA when it is liberated from globalist democrim corruption .

  25. RobK says:

    As SD says:
    We invested early in the vaccine without knowing if it would work and the EU just steals it because they are run like shit by authoritarians.
    A lot depends on the fine print of the original deal.

  26. Mique says:

    Just exactly what people expect to be the result of kicking out EU ambassadors baffles me. Any such diplomatic action invariably results in diplomatic reaction. Where should we house our own expelled diplomats and their families during their quarantine, and who should pay for it?
    It’s getting to be that there is less sense to be found in here than on Twitter.

  27. Karabar says:

    Apparently the results of a massive vaccination program in the State of Israel has resulted in the probability of death following vaccination is FORTY times the probaility of death from “Covid” itself. [https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/03/no_author/experimental-vaccine-death-rate-for-israels-elderly-40-times-higher-than-covid-19-deaths-researchers/]
    The EU has perhaps saved thousands of Australians from this magic juice.

  28. John Brumble says:

    Mique- Perhaps they should learn to code?

  29. BalancedObservation2 says:

    There’s another way to look at this: the damage this is likely to do to the EU as a reliable export community. It will reflect adversely on all companies operating in the EU. It really does show that rather than being champions of free trade, organizations like the EU are perhaps on balance better described as restricters of free trade.

    What is happening here – our government has legally binding contracts with private companies in the EU to supply products but the EU has overridden those private contracts. This has set a precedent. Any product or resource the EU deems as highly important to the EU could have its supply cut off and companies and buyers who’d entered into contracts in good faith (possibly years earlier) for the supply of those products could have their contracts arbitrarily overridden.

    It’s something importing governments and companies will keep in mind when entering into contracts for the supply of something in the future with EU based companies. The question will need to be asked – what will happen if the contract is overridden by the EU? Is that risk worth taking or would it be better to look for an alternative supplier for all of part of the order.

    But I think the greatest damage for the EU is for companies thinking about setting up operations in the EU will think what would happen if our export contracts in future were cut off. Would it be better to locate somewhere else outside the EU or to do that for at least part of planned production.

  30. m0nty says:

    As I have long feared, we are going to emerge from Covid in a world of greater autarky.

    ..
    Wow.
    What a way to spin the now obvious fact smacking you between the eyes like a big wet cock that I and others on here have been trying to warn you about for years.

    You pulled that logic chain straight out of your ort, Arky.

  31. BalancedObservation2 says:

    Fortunately we’re in a relatively good position with covid, so this is no major disaster, especially since we have our own production capability.

    Let’s hope Scott Morrison and his little mate Josh don’t go all macho again over it like they did recently with the Facebook and Google attempted shakedown on behalf of that altruistic cause: the near monopoly majority-foreign-owned local media. Incidentally I notice Anthony Albanese and entourage are meeting with the Murdoch press for a secret meeting ( the details of discussions won’t be released). So there’s most of the media and politics stitched up in a nice little bundle now : Newscorp, Nine, the Coalition and Labor. We are getting our democracy so well organized.

    So it’s really not the time for a war with EU over vaccine export bans. Let’s hope Scott and Josh don’t decide to wage one. We really don’t have any leverage. We’d lose. And if we won it could be even worse.

  32. Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus says:

    They would not be a friend, they would be a dog

    Dogs are the best of friends – loyal and reliable

  33. Win says:

    Balanced observation2 at1.59pm.
    So history repeats itself Anthony Albanesie and enterage are meeting with the Murdoch press. Not quite the sam3 as Murdoch and Keating hosting Tony Blair and enterage on Hamilton Island with all the theatrics of tourist evacuation, total security none allowed on or off the Island for the week. But still operative ala the Trump and Howard election evisceration.

  34. Squirrel says:

    “It does seem to me, however, that Australian foreign policy of being a good international citizen, of kowtowing to so-called ‘international law’ and the ‘rules based international order’, in the hope that it would one day benefit us isn’t paying off precisely when it needs to have paid off.”

    Exactly, but none of this, and the many other examples of international rules and norms being ignored by major powers when it suits, should be a surprise – that’s how the world works, and always has.

    If there’s a surprise, it’s that a country which fancies itself as a middle power (with all the bells and whistles of an expensive foreign policy establishment), and loves blathering on about punching above its weight, would be at all surprised by such matter of fact bastardry on the part of a major power.

    Perhaps some of the overpaid masterminds in The Bubble might join the dots and reflect on what this little object lesson in realpolitik says about how we should approach demands that we destroy our economy in the name of climate change because other countries have promised (crossed their hearts and hoped to die) to do the same.

    This episode might also be a reminder to remove the digit on setting up a serious domestic petroleum reserve.

  35. Ozman says:

    Merck Scraps COVID Vaccines; Says It’s More Effective To Get The Virus And Recover. Since nobody really gets COVID, and FLU numbers have crashed. Australia ought to just go with Merck.

    Let people’s natural immune system do its job. And everybody can go back to living their lives free from tyranny, lockdowns, and restrictions; without fear of being fined, bullied or assaulted by police, because oxygen is more healthier to breathe than stale breath made up of exhaled CO2, which is increasingly populated with multiplying numbers of bacteria and fungi growing on the inside of masks–the reason why they are removed…..You know it makes sense!

  36. BalancedObservation2 says:

    Win

    I was unaware of the Hamilton island jaunt – obviously held in the interests of our democracy too. Thanks for the info. You’re probably also aware of Rudd’s Murdoch meeting in New York shortly before he (not Murdoch) became PM.

    But I’d argue the recent unity exhibited spearheading the campaign for the media bargaining code would have brought tears of joy and admiration to the eyes of all political fixers in Australia – outstripping any previous work.

    Lined up in favour of this obnoxious legislation we saw Labor, the Coalition, the Greens, The ABC and of course nearly all the near monopoly media in the country run by the majority foreign-owned Nine and Newscorp.

  37. Leigh Lowe says:

    Imagine for a moment if Trump banned the export of US manufactured vaccines.

  38. BalancedObservation2 says:

    Squirrel

    Brilliant comment. With commentary of that high standard you’ll never get a gig with the near monopoly majority foreign-owned press in Australia.

    Gear to see Catallaxy comments doing what they’re intended to do. And doing it so well.

  39. BalancedObservation2 says:

    Good to see.

  40. BalancedObservation2 says:

    Leigh Lowe

    I get your point about what would have happened if Donald Trump had banned the export of US vaccines.

    They may even have impeached him for a third time! But impeachment starts to lose its effect after doing it twice , particularly when they’d been planning his impeachment on the day he was sworn in as President and his second one after he was no longer president.

    But just on the vaccine and the virus issue in the US – the record for the largest number of deaths of any state is held convincingly in their federal system by the Democrat-entrenched state of California.

    And since Biden’s been in office the people who have by far the greatest death rate from the virus, Latinas and Blacks, are getting much poorer access to the vaccines by about a factor of four. And yet they still call Trump a racist – he’s also the president who had unemployment before covid at its lowest level in recorded history for Black Americans and Latinas.

    The rhetoric on the virus has improved since Trump but little else. And the US is very fortunate Trump secured such a good supply of vaccines for the US, very early in the piece, unlike European governments.

    Incidentally the EU seems to lack the ticker to cut off US supplies of vaccines. They must have believed their own rhetoric that the US is now led by a more competent and stronger leader.

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