Kenny on Pell and Porter

Chris Kenny in the Australian makes this point:

This is even more chilling than the prosecution of Cardinal George Pell because, for all the obvious faults that were eventually exposed under appeal, his wrongful convictions required action by police, prosecutors and courts. In the case of Porter, journalists, activists and, remarkably, politicians are demanding that the police findings be placed aside because they do not like the outcome.

Hmmmmmmm. No.

The Pell case is, IMHO, far, far worse.

In part this may be due to the fact that my opinion of journalists, activists, and politicians is pretty low to begin with. But what is happening to Porter can be explained by grubs being grubs.

What happened to Pell is a systemic failure of the criminal justice system. That Pell’s conviction was thrown out by the High Court is not a vindication of the Rule of Law that Chris Kenny claims several paragraphs later in his story. Every single check and balance within the criminal justice system failed. In the end it was the final legal failsafe that kicked in.

The full extent of the failure is evidenced by the fact that after a unanimous 7 – 0 single judgement in the High Court that no inquiry has been mounted as to how this could have happened, no person has been fired from their job, no person has resigned their job, no person has apologised. Not only did the criminal justice system completely fail, the political oversight that acts as a check on the criminal justice has also failed.

George Pell wasn’t prosecuted for alleged molestation he was prosecuted for being George Pell. Luckily for him the haters overreached and they couldn’t quite get away with it.

Where Chris Kenny is entirely correct is on the hypocrisy of Porter’s accusers and their motives.  Mind you, I think he is being too nice about it.

With all that background, it is hard to fathom the decision by the ABC and their journalist Louise Milligan to go public with the allegations last week. 

No. It isn’t.

Speaking of the ABC:

ABC reporters in Tasmania have been told to “avoid” referring to child sex abusers as pedophiles, to avoid marginalising people with pedophilia.

That’s one billion of your tax dollars right there.

But I digress …

Another thing I discovered in The Australian:

Her statement describes how she gained a better understanding of her fragmented memories of the alleged rape when she was referred by her psychologist to the research of Bessel van der Kolk, a devotee of discredited recovered memory therapy.

Looks like Porter is being accused of rape on the basis of recovered memories.

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70 Responses to Kenny on Pell and Porter

  1. the sting says:

    Agree with this article . The government should now step up to the plate and declare an immediate change to the ABC and make it a subscription only service .Otherwise this Porter situation will happen again . [ Some special arrangements may need to be made for rural areas ]

  2. H B Bear says:

    Not only did the criminal justice system completely fail, the political oversight that acts as a check on the criminal justice has also failed.

    Not sure this is correct. The AG is an officer of the court and accordingly owes certain duties to it. He is afforded standing by legislation where he would have none otherwise.

    It is this “hybrid” role, for want of a better word, that Albo, kd wrong and others are seeking to hang their hat in calling for an enquire now the fuzz have blown time on the formal criminal process.

  3. Sinclair Davidson says:

    H B – Porter is the federal AG. The Victorian AG at the time was Jill Hennessy.

  4. H B Bear says:

    The failure of the criminal justice system in Victoriastan is the politicisation of the police and the judiciary, as others have noted most of which occurred under Victoriastani AG Rob Hulls.

  5. Roger says:

    What happened to Pell is a systemic failure of the criminal justice system.

    To be specific, it was a systemic failure of the Victorian criminal justice system.

    One might even go further and say it was a systemic perversion of that state’s criminal justice system, which is a very grave matter.

  6. H B Bear says:

    H B – Porter is the federal AG. The Victorian AG at the time was Jill Hennessy.

    Yep. So his duty would only be owed to the Cth courts. My comment still stands.

  7. Sinclair Davidson says:

    My comment still stands.

    We’re probably talking at cross-purposes. I don’t see any role Porter played in the Pell travesty.

  8. H B Bear says:

    I don’t see any role Porter played in the Pell travesty.

    Agreed. That was pure Victoriastan till the High Court blew time on the whole disgrace.

  9. jupes says:

    With all that background, it is hard to fathom the decision by the ABC and their journalist Louise Milligan to go public with the allegations last week.

    Here’s why. They have won again.

    Brain dead SloMo has just employed the Sex Discrimination Commissioner to lead an “independent” enquiry into the culture of Parliament House. The Sex Discrimination Commissioner!

    No, seriously. How stupid is this man? Hasn’t he seen what happens when you get a professional grievance promoter to conduct an enquiry into their pet subject? Hasn’t he noticed what happened to the SAS? What about Eddie McGuire?

    How in the world did we do to end up with this moron as our national leader?

  10. H B Bear says:

    If there was any Opposition or quality media in Victoriastan you would have expected Ms Hennessy to have had some awkward questions to answer.

  11. Iain Russell says:

    @Roger 4.53pm, yes indeed! A full press RC needs to be created to investigate the ‘something rotten in the State of Danmark’!!

  12. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “The Pell case is, IMHO, far, far worse”

    I would agree with that Sinc. George Pell’s vilification, abuse and smears covered many years and then he was charged, tried and imprisoned….on the basis of lies and falsehoods. However there are uncanny similarities between Pell and Porter and they begin and end with the filthy hands of Louse Nilligan and their ABC.

  13. H B Bear says:

    The Pell case is really a story in two parts. The complete failure – including the supposed checks and balances – of the Victoriastani criminal justice system. And the success of the Cth High Court sitting as the final court of appeal. Time and the democratic process is the only way to correct this, although there seems little evidence it will do so.

    The only real similarity with Porter is the role of the media in leading the mob.

  14. Allan says:

    Agree with Sinclair. Cardinal Pell was persecuted because of who he was and what he stood for.
    And the shameful thing is his persecutors knew he was innocent.
    Christian Porter has been treated very badly by the media which amounts to a witch hunt.
    The difference for Porter is the NSW police have said he has no case to answer whereas Pell was investigated, charged, prosecuted and convicted in Victoria. Luckily for Porter the debates were held in Sydney and not Melbourne.

  15. Snoopy says:

    No, seriously. How stupid is this man? Hasn’t he seen what happens when you get a professional grievance promoter to conduct an enquiry into their pet subject? Hasn’t he noticed what happened to the SAS? What about Eddie McGuire?

    Slomo should have appointed Spot Destroyer. Tash owes the Libs bigly and could be relied upon to deliver the right recommendations.

  16. H B Bear says:

    Luckily for Porter the debates were held in Sydney and not Melbourne.

    Anybody who has not left Victoriastan has only themselves to blame. Now you understand carts full of people with all their worldly goods in documentaries. Makes perfect sense.

  17. Joanna Smythe says:

    We know how the ABC and media play the game. They just go on and on and on, wear you down and eventually you just say enough. On the other hand, the left just shut up, won’t discuss their wrongdoings and just go on the attack. Until the Liberals change their tactics nothing will change. As the old saying goes you can’t expect to do the same things over and over and expect a different outcome.

  18. gary says:

    People have been complaining about the ABC being lefty trash for decades and the Liberals won’t do any thing. Labor sure won’t do anything about the ABC. Good government would require the ABC being brought into line – decent people would want the ABC brought into line with acceptable community standards – why won’t the government do their job.

    Also the allegations of corruption about Neville Wran in the SMH today are (in my opinion) when the ABC went off the rails. The ABC went hard after Wran and didn’t get him, and Wran made sure that the ABC wouldn’t be motivated to do the same to any other ALP politician.

    Coincidentally, Roger Roberson criminal career started just after Wran was elected. I wonder if Wran, as he is looking up at us from his resting place, is ashamed of what he did to Sydney. From my recollection Sydney was a much dirtier city when he left compared to when he started.

  19. Lee says:

    However there are uncanny similarities between Pell and Porter and they begin and end with the filthy hands of Louse Nilligan and their ABC.

    And then when the HC upheld the Pell appeal 7-0, ABC acolytes went into special pleading and denial mode and claimed that “oh no, the ABC did not harass, pursue and persecute George Pell.”

  20. Ed Case says:

    ***No, seriously. How stupid is this man? Hasn’t he seen what happens when you get a professional grievance promoter to conduct an enquiry into their pet subject? Hasn’t he noticed what happened to the SAS? What about Eddie McGuire?***
    McGuire blundered by appointing a friendly.
    When it went pear shaped he couldn’t allege bias, so it was Game Over.
    Right or wrong, Porter won’t win his seat again, Labor would have a field day if he tried.
    Once Porter resigns, the IR changes are dead in the water and the Inquiry goes to page 94 of the Sunday papers.

  21. LBLoveday says:

    Looks like Porter is being accused of rape on the basis of recovered memories.

    Hard to believe, maybe, but 10 years ago The Guardian published an article titled “FALSE MEMORIES OF SEXUAL ABUSE LEAD TO TERRIBLE MISCARRIAGES OF JUSTICE”.

  22. Albatross says:

    Pell is a decent, upright man. Porter is a POS Liberal politician. No comparison.

  23. Albatross says:

    What upsets Kenny so profoundly is that they’re coming for him and his now.

  24. Roger says:

    Anybody who has not left Victoriastan has only themselves to blame. Now you understand carts full of people with all their worldly goods in documentaries. Makes perfect sense.

    Anecdotal evidence of trades shortages in NSW & QLD.

    Local tyre/car service franchise desperate for a qualified mechanic, for example.

  25. Spurgeon Monkfish III says:

    ALPBC j’ismists in Taxmania have been told to “avoid” referring to child sex abusers as terrence peedderphiles, to avoid marginalising peoples with peddofeelsya

    That would include “former” ALPBC “reporters”:

    Andrew Robert Muirhead (born 1975) is an Australian former radio and television presenter for the Australian Labore Pardee Broadcasting Corporation. He was the presenter of ALPBC Radio’s breakfast program in Taxmania and also the presenter of the Collectors television program from 2005 to 2010. In 2012, he pleaded guilty to accessing child prawnography and served four months of a five-month jail sentence. 😠

  26. Spurgeon Monkfish III says:

    🦐

  27. Syd Gal says:

    Yes, I agree that Pell’s case was far far worse. The vilification started during the Royal Commission ( 2012-2017): Questions in transcripts from RC hearings – was Pell at particular meetings? What did the minutes say? What contact did a convicted priest have with Pell? Did convicted priest ask Pell to walk with him to Court in 1993 (no, priest said it was all left up to the barrister, he had nothing to do with it).

    Some of the baying mob outside the Melb Court (the group that had the Devil signs and posters) also appear to have attended a variety of functions at Kirribilli House. Twitter feeds the day of sentencing 13 March 2019 include a running commentary by one Vic MP.

    Re Pell’s case and trial, how could problems early on with the evidence be missed? In the complainant’s statement read out in the 2016 VicPol/Pell Rome interview – he describes a wood panelled storage area not built until 7-8 years after the alleged offence. The complainant also had psychological issues, Milligan describes this in her book – his mental health is “hanging on by an absolute thread”. It was reported the defence tried to access the complainant’s counselling records but this was not permitted.

  28. Epicurious says:

    “How in the world did we do to end up with this moron as our national leader?”

    A more appropriate question might be “how did this moron get to be the leader of the LNP?” My answer is “in the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king” he may be the least offensive, may be or could it just be a certain faction decided it was his time. In Carlo Cipolla’s book The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity he highlights within all groups, even Nobel Laureates, a certain percentage are stupid. I’d like to disagree with him in the case of politicians in that all of them are stupid! Reference to Janet Albrechten’s most recent article in The Australian “normal-people-would-be-insane-to-enter-politics highlights their mediocrity.

  29. Fang says:

    One tv station, one radio station in regional areas for ABC, They can have their single internet portal for ABC affairs. And subscriptions service for metro areas.
    Also, is there a case for class action against ABC? Not for a pay out, but for a reduction of over service because of monopoly of news and current affairs?
    Change back to $150-$200 million budget, for regional services?
    And a change of structure to subscriptions service? (Private enterprise!)

    Or

    Close it down fire the bloody lot of them!

  30. jupes says:

    You wasted a lot of pixels there Fang.

  31. mareeS says:

    Sexuallly extreme hysterics form a fascinating backdrop to Simon Winchester’s “The Surgeon Of Crowthorne,” his wonderful history of the Oxford English Dictionary, and the contributions made by a murderous American Civil War surgeon locked away in England’s Crowthorne Hospital For the Criminally Insane from the 1870s.

    Read, if you haven’t already.

    The good doctor saw sexual succubi on all sides, even coming at him through the floorboards, and killed accordingly, to protect his virtue. Hence locked away with his insane fantasies, only to produce more than 10,000 words from his well-read background for the OED project over 20+ years.

    The human mind is capable of many weird and wonderful things. Sex seems to be a problematic matter for some disturbed minds.

  32. Davo the spy says:

    Hi Sinclair, I agree that as bad as the porter case is, the Pell case is far far worse. To have the police etc as co-opted, or worse cooperating, and clearly hunting for a scalp ( most likely as a scapegoat for institutional issues of the past) is beyond belief…except it clearly happened. I can only despair about what is happening, and what I suspect has happened in the US in th3 last 12-18 months. Truly scary

  33. Taylor says:

    ***What happened to Pell is a systemic failure of the criminal justice system. ***

    True. That Sky interview with Frank Brennan where he lays into everyone concerned, up to and including the Victorian Court of Appeal supports this. Probably the best practical account of the rule of law I’ve seen.

  34. Weeny says:

    Just compare the Shorten allegations against Porter and how they are/were treated. Its a joke.

  35. Brian says:

    Facilitated memory fiasco all over again with same person destroying outcome.

  36. Tel says:

    Hmmmmmmm. No.

    The Pell case is, IMHO, far, far worse.

    That is correct … Porter has spend no time in prison, nor will he.

  37. Viva says:

    Witch Finder General Milligan should look in the mirror.

    She is becoming a real menace.

  38. BrettW says:

    Somebody has been very quiet recently which is odd.

    Where is Mark Dreyfus. I don’t miss him but it is curious not heard from him on the recent rope cases.

  39. notafan says:

    Agreed.

    I’m gobsmacked , or perhaps not that minibrain seems to have swallowed such a *fabulous* story constructed out of whole cloth by someone with such a history of mental illness. No embellishments were too rich for her blood

    Gosh I hope she gets dragged through the courts.

    To think she wrote a book about how awful it was to be a witness.

  40. Gorilla Dance Party says:

    Absolutely agree. I thought what happened to Pell was awful before but after reading The Persecution of George Pell, I am amazed by how bad it was. I don’t have much knowledge of law so I didn’t realise how deep the rot went.

    As for Porter, glad it didn’t go further of course. I am increasingly reluctant to feel sorry for Lib pollies when stuff like this happens though. They get rid of anyone on their side who tries to put up an honest fight against stuff like this (and almost everything else). So it is hard not to see cases like this as them getting a bit of what they’re allowing to be inflicted on the public.

  41. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “She is becoming a real menace.”

    Louse Nilligan has long been a menace.

  42. Squirrel says:

    “What happened to Pell is a systemic failure of the criminal justice system”

    Yes – and a potent reminder of what can happen to individuals who don’t have the means to exhaust all avenues of appeal.

  43. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Just compare the Shorten allegations against Porter and how they are/were treated. Its a joke.

    What a difference a decade makes to reporting claims against powerful men
    Chip Le Grand
    By Chip Le Grand
    March 6, 2021 — 5.30am

    Kathy Sherriff didn’t know the woman who claimed she was roped by Christian Porter. She hasn’t read the details of her allegations or listened to the Attorney-General’s denials. But she believes her, “without a shadow of a doubt”.

    “I know for an absolute fact – as do [the] one-in-five women and one-in-20 men who have been raped – that this woman is telling the truth.”

    Sherriff can’t know. Not for certain. Not when the woman is dead and the NSW Police has abandoned its investigation.

    Her belief that victims should be listened to and believed is a catchcry of the #MeToo movement, a social, political and legal upheaval. In the short years between Sherriff accusing then Labor leader Bill Shorten of historical rope and the treatment of Porter’s accuser’s claims, there has been a seismic shift in how prominent men accused of rope are treated by the media and political class.

    Depending on where you stand, it is cause for hope or deep unease.

    Sherriff accused Shorten of roping her at a Labor Youth Camp in Portarlington in 1986 when she was 16 and he was 19. Victoria Police investigated her claims in 2013 and did not find sufficient evidence to support criminal charges against Shorten.

    Sherriff has never understood why. At the time, journalists approached her story with a high degree of caution, as legally risky and politically fraught.

    When The Australian newspaper first revealed in November 2013 that Victoria Police were investigating a historic rape allegations against a “senior Labor figure,” the report ran on the front page beneath the fold; a broadsheet spot reserved for good stories but not the most important news of the day.

    There was little follow up, apart from some mentions on obscure websites. There was no demand for Shorten to out himself or to step aside while the matter was investigated. Nine months later, after Victoria Police informed him that no charges would be laid, Shorten identified himself as the Labor figure and said the allegations had been vigorously investigated and that there was “absolutely no basis” to them. Prime Minister Tony Abbott said the matter had been dealt with and “I don’t think there’s really anything more to say about it”. Shorten led Labor to the next election.

    That response bears no resemblance to the convulsion in national affairs in the week since the ABC reported a cabinet minister was accused of a rope in an anonymous letter referred to the Australian Federal Police.

    When Porter called a press conference on Wednesday to out himself as the cabinet minister, he compared his treatment with that of Shorten and vehemently denied the allegation against him.

  44. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “As for Porter, glad it didn’t go further of course. I am increasingly reluctant to feel sorry for Lib pollies when stuff like this happens though. They get rid of anyone on their side who tries to put up an honest fight against stuff like this (and almost everything else). So it is hard not to see cases like this as them getting a bit of what they’re allowing to be inflicted on the public.”

    I agree with your sentiment but despite my loathing for the spineless, craven, supine, useless Liberals…I don’t want see our legal system trashed and I don’t want to see an innocent man destroyed because of confected lies. Christian Porter, like George Pell, is innocent.

  45. Ed Case says:

    Politics is a tough business.
    Porter is saying he had no knowledge that he was in the frame until the other day.
    Okay.
    Many of the people on those debating teams are now public figures and the ones that aren’t likely did well.
    Porter is asking us to believe that either he has no contacts in those circles anymore, or he does but no one gave him a heads up about the allegations that had been around since 2019.
    It’s similar to Scotty saying the bad news about Brittany Higgins didn’t reach him for 2 years.
    It just beggars belief.

  46. Siltstone says:

    Where is Mark Dreyfus.

    He has fallen into line. See “ALPBC World Today 5 March” transcript.

  47. Old Lefty says:

    Far from there being accountability in Victoria, the DPP has tried to bury her and her office’s catastrophic failures (that is a generous way of putting it). Her annual report for 2019-20, available on line, buries the case in a vague cryptic reference to one of the eight appeals against Victorian convictions that year being upheld.

    Quite a change from the readiness to proclaim his convictions from the rooftop, isn’t it? And the two fingers to the openness and accountability they are always rabbiting on about, and to the public.

  48. Lee says:

    Porter is asking us to believe that either he has no contacts in those circles anymore, or he does but no one gave him a heads up about the allegations that had been around since 2019.

    I think it is perfectly believable; not to say it is true, we don’t know.
    I have absolutely no contact with anyone from before 1983 (when I was a little older than Porter at the time of the allegations against him), outside of family members of course.

  49. Old Lefty says:

    Judd is no doubt suffering from psychological trauma, which could explain the dishonesty and evasion of her report. The High Court hearings not only exposed her for arguing a hollow sham of a case for her political overlords (‘specious’ was one of the words the High Court used), but made her look and sound like a bumbling, incompetent fool. No surprise that she wants to bury it, but dishonest and cowardly all the same.

  50. Ed Case says:

    Porter was a high flyer as a teenager,
    National debating championships are for the elites only, but he has no contact with any of the other publicly known debaters, despite being high profile and living in Perth his whole life?
    It could happen, the misanthropic loner who dragged himself up by his bootstraps and forswore networking to become State Treasurer, then Attorney General, but it’s unlikely.

  51. Lee says:

    You’re still making assumptions, Ed.

  52. stackja says:

    Julie Bishop: ‘The last few days have left me unspeakably sad’
    The former deputy leader of the Liberal Party has addressed the recent spate of sexual assault allegations out of Parliament House.

    “The last few days have left me unspeakably sad,” Bishop told Samantha Armytage in the second episode of Stellar’s Something To Talk About podcast.

    ..

    According to Bishop, who is now the Chancellor of the Australian National University, those in positions of power have an obligation to involve the police when faced with allegations of sexual assault or misconduct.

  53. Old Lefty says:

    If you want an example of the dishonesty of the DPP and her minions, here is Justice Kidd (all credit to him for this) throwing out their so- called evidence in the swimmers trial:

    http://www8.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/vic/VCC/2019/149.html?context=1;query=Pell;mask_path=au/cases/vic/VCC

  54. Ed Case says:

    Knowing what is going on so they can get out in front of bad news is life and death for politicians, but Scotty and Chris didn’t have a clue.
    Okay.
    His old man died last year, national High Jump champ for 7 years straight and the first Aussie to clear 2.10 metres.
    Grandfather was a Radio Pioneer in Brisbane, later in Parliament, from his Wiki entry, sounds like a guy who kissed up and kicked down.

  55. Dot says:

    It’s similar to Scotty saying the bad news about Brittany Higgins didn’t reach him for 2 years.

    Or writing in a diary three years later? With details that weren’t possible, like bathtubs in …without bathtubs…?

  56. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Unreconcilable teenage memories

    The woman who accused Christian Porter of roping her in 1988 spent the next day with him and believed they had a long-term ­future despite the alleged attack.

    By JAMIE WALKER

    From Nation
    March 6, 2021
    10 minute read

    The woman who accused Christian Porter of roping her at a ­debating tournament in 1988 went on to spend the next day with him, according to her ­detailed retelling of the incident, believing they had a long-term ­future together despite the savagery of the alleged attack.

    Her detailed account of what she described as an eight-year ­involvement with the future federal Attorney-General, documented in a 25-page unsigned statement she planned to give to the police, is deeply at odds with his declaration that he knew her “for only the briefest periods” when they were teenagers and had no contact he could recall after the night of the alleged rope.

    The scandal now reaches ­beyond Mr Porter’s capacity to stay on as Australia’s first law officer and the implications for a government still reeling from the Brittany Higgins affair, entang­ling luminaries of business, ­finance and the law — the cream of a generation who figured in the elite schools and university debating scene three decades ago and went on to excel in their chosen fields.

    High-flyers such as Macquarie Group senior managing director James Hooke, international clean-energy guru Danny Kennedy, prominent Canberra barrister Chris Erskine SC and federal Labor MP Daniel Mulino could be called before an inquest if the South Australian Coroner decides to act, an outcome Scott Morrison said on Friday he would welcome.

  57. Syd Gal says:

    March 6, 2021 at 9:43 pm

    Thanks, Old Lefty. I think these were the allegations in Milligan’s books and earlier TV show. The senior prosecutor became a judge on 25 Feb 2020.

  58. Dot says:

    Macquarie Group senior managing director James Hooke, international clean-energy guru Danny Kenned

    They are private citizens and to various degrees, businessmen.

    They think they’re judges and senior counsel now?

    I mean jesus christ man too fucking Mac Bank.

    Have we asked what Johnno the welder cum box trailer maker thinks? The value of their comments is equal.

  59. min says:

    Suggest posters here could read my post in Open Forum that explains the therapy EMDR she was supposed to have undertaken and why I am suspicious of what is being drip fed to those interested . The complainant told the police she dissociates and this therapy is not supposed to be used on someone with this issue and it has been claimed that it was used on her . Psychologist’s treatment notes can be subpoenaed , well they could be as mine were for a court case in Victoria

  60. H B Bear says:

    You’re still making assumptions, Ed.

    Curiously Gargooglery is probably right. Porter’s father is Chilla Porter, a one time WA Lieboral powerbroker. I expect he has had a few doors opened for him over the years.

  61. BrettW says:

    Uh oh. Kathy must have missed the bit about even her own parents expressing doubts. Whilst I agree Porter is being treated differently to Shorten I do have issues with cases not reported until 30 years later. They become purely he said she said as usually there is little to corroborate the initial incident.

    “Kathy Sherriff didn’t know the woman who claimed she was roped by Christian Porter. She hasn’t read the details of her allegations or listened to the Attorney-General’s denials. But she believes her, “without a shadow of a doubt”.

    “I know for an absolute fact – as do [the] one-in-five women and one-in-20 men who have been raped – that this woman is telling the truth.”

  62. The Sheriff says:

    Ed Case says:
    March 6, 2021 at 9:24 pm
    Porter was a high flyer as a teenager,
    National debating championships are for the elites only, but he has no contact with any of the other publicly known debaters, despite being high profile and living in Perth his whole life?
    It could happen, the misanthropic loner who dragged himself up by his bootstraps and forswore networking to become State Treasurer, then Attorney General, but it’s unlikely.

    Why? The teams are chosen from the best individuals in the state and country, so presumably after the tournament they may well be at different schools anyway. Plus over 30 years it is natural that you fall out of contact with a lot of people, and not surprising for someone like Porter who would have been a rare “right wing” figure in an otherwise left-leaning environment

  63. Rex Mango says:

    Only read half of what you wrote, but correct. How has no-one lost their job?

  64. Tom says:

    What is happening to Christian Porter is an effete Antipodean version of what happened to Justice Brett Kavanaugh on his way to his SCOTUS confirmation in the USA.

    They were both attempted gotchas by the activist dregs of politics and society – although Kavanaugh was admittedly an attempted gotcha on steroids and one of the most shameful episodes in American history.

    All it required in both cases was for the government leadership to tell the activist dregs to get stuffed after their gotcha collapsed under the weight of its own contradictions,

    Thankfully, in Australia, that finally appears to be happening because the prime minister isn’t a weakling like Tony Abbott or an instinctively disloyal backstabber like Malcolm Turnbull.

  65. Ed Case says:

    Doin’ a spot o’ Googlin’, Chilla Porter was Liberal Party State Director in WA 78-87, they were going well in ’78 and going nowhere by ’87.
    Great photo of him clearing 6’11” for the ’56 Silver Medal at the MCG at the Wiki entry.
    Charles Porter had an interesting history.
    Born in Greenwich in 1910, he emigrated to Australia in 1914, no mention of his parents going along for the ride.
    By the time of the Moore Government [29-32] he was Assistant to an Undersecretary to the Home Secretary [Minister], whose name was Jens Christian Peterson, by the way. then became a pioneer radio broadcaster in Brisbane.
    Porter helped found the Queensland Peoples Party in 1944, which became the Queensland Branch of the Liberal Party in 1949.
    He was State Campaign Director of the QPP and later fulfilled that role for the Liberal Party leading up to his entering Parliament in 1966.
    He spent his time there undermining the Liberal leadership and fomenting division with the Country Party.
    Made Aboriginal Affairs Minister in 1977, he didn’t dismiss Department Head Pat Killoran [1915-2010], so I guess no one gave him a heads up about Killoran over the 14 years he was in Parliament..
    Retiring from Parliament in 1980, he spent his remaining 24 years writing Avant Garde plays and on the Board of Church Of England Grammar School, where Chilla Porter had attended. This may be unfair, and Wiki isn’t always reliable, but if I were to sum up the contributions of 3 generations of Porters to the Liberal Party of Australia, i’d say they should have let the Labor Party have them.

  66. Crossie says:

    How in the world did we do to end up with this moron as our national leader?

    ScoMo’s colleagues made it so and the same politicians made Turnbull the PM before him. He is just the most moronic of many morons. There are no alternative candidates on the horizon so we are in deep strife.

  67. Crossie says:

    Cassie of Sydney says:
    March 6, 2021 at 5:09 pm
    “The Pell case is, IMHO, far, far worse”

    I would agree with that Sinc. George Pell’s vilification, abuse and smears covered many years and then he was charged, tried and imprisoned….on the basis of lies and falsehoods. However there are uncanny similarities between Pell and Porter and they begin and end with the filthy hands of Louse Nilligan and their ABC.

    Cassie, the common denominator in both is Milligan or more accurately the ABC. I believe that of it wasn’t Milligan some other ABC louse would have stepped up.

    For the sake of the nation the ABC has to go.

  68. vlad says:

    One thing that hasn’t had much attention, if any, is that even if Porter did what he is accused of (and I see no reason to believe that he did) he was 17yo at the time, the matter would have gone through the Children’s Court if it had been pursued at the proper time, and his identity would have been suppressed forever afterwards.

    So his political career would have still been possible and the legal system as we have it would have said he has the right to have outgrown any “character” stain it supposedly revealed.

    So anyone who talks – professors of law included – about whether he’s a fit and proper person to sit in the cabinet is talking through his hat and/or out of the wrong orifice.

  69. Ed Case says:

    ***So his political career would have still been possible and the legal system as we have it would have said he has the right to have outgrown any “character” stain it supposedly revealed.***
    Someone convicted of Rappin’ in a Childrens Court go on to get Preselection in the States safest seat?
    Could happen, so long as the bad news wasn’t known to anybody else in the Universe.
    How likely do you think that would be?

  70. Arky says:

    The ABC is the mouthpiece of Australia.
    It’s editorial content reflect the opinions and aims of the political elite in this country.
    As such it will never be disbanded.
    What you must ask is not, how do we get rid of the ABC, but why do so many of our elites believe the things they believe?

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